[DMCForum] Re: Deloreans on Ebay

["fivetwofive" <cbl302@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

First off,Someone on the list wanted to know about the "fleet cars" 
as that person called them,so I responded,to let them know that they 
were "sold" You are RIGHT I should have ended it there,All I said was 
TWO MINOR COMMENTS,then you came in with your long winded FOUL 
Mouthed Nasty reply!! Also I never used any NAMES,you started it with 
your RUDE 3#$%% language.
First off,  SOMEONE taking a Starters Pistol (that for all intents 
and purposes that looks like like a real GUN,GOT me scared,WHY WHY 
WHY,would somebody take that,unless they were going to use it for ill 
purposes.(It positively was in a wicker basket and then "disappeared" 
I only mentioned that out of bewilderment,,You are the one that comes 
on here with your FOUL mouth,and then tries to DEFEND/put a good spin 
on something BAD that happened,trying to make me/my cars/garage/and 
anything else about me look like some kind of dirt bag sleeze(Reread 
your post and see HOW YOU BAD MOUTHED ME!!)using all kinds of Foul 
language,Do you see me using any foul language!! Hey I was not the 
CLEPTO,just remember if you see one of those guys using a 
professional headlight aimer in a big Plastic Black Container,you 
will know who the Clepto is.Even Rob ADMITS it was there,and then 
went missing,plus one of the accessories,fell out when it was "being 
checked out" Right below where it was stored,then "stuff" was put in 
front of the shelf,where it was for years,to hide where it used to 
be!! 
 On getting the stuff ready---Again WHERE WOULD I HAVE PUT IT ALL IN 
THE SNOW???????????That makes @%$^^@@ NO SENSE!!!! I helped out the 
BEST I could.
Again I DID NOT WISH TO SELL TO ROB,HE talked me into it!!!!!
You are RIGHT about looking thru the stuff,I am sure if you have OVER 
THIRTY YEARS of car parts,you would NOT know where everything is!!
What did you expect, me to freeze to death by myself,looking thru 
everything,AGAIN I THOUGHT THE MOST HONEST WAY WAS TO LET you GUYS GO 
THRU EVERY NOOK AND CORNER,and cranny ,TO PROVE I HAD NOTHING TO 
HIDE.I AM SORRY IF I WAS TOO HONEST,MAYBE I SHOULD BECOME A CLEPTO!!
And as for THE LUNCH,I BUSTED MY ASS,helping you GUYS,that was the 
least you guys could do,for FREE LABOR(let me see $1000.00-
6.00=$994.00,loss on my part!! As I could have been paid $1000.00 for 
my labor) ,remember you worked/did it for Rob,not me!!
As for Vin 16686,check the back archives of the DML,the owner came on 
the DML and said he liked the car(and the work I did on it) very 
much,also if the car was such a POS-- HOW come it is still in use 
today,16(sixteen years)AFTER I COMPLETED IT. THAT does not sound like 
a POS to me!!!SOUNDS like a better Delorean than 75% of the Deloreans 
out there!! Yea the Delorean GUYS in Europe will LOVE that Comment!!
Dissapointed ??? AT LEAST 60% of the parts were as NEW or LIKE 
new,ALL had PERFECT dashes
one car had 2,000 miles,one had 9,000 miles,one had 22,000 and one 
had 32,000,and ALL WERE STORED INDOORS SINCE the 1980's,IT was a 
DELOREAN LOVERS DREAM FIND!! AND THE cream on the cake was he got a 
Pre-Prod. Car to BOOT!!!!! (vin# 570)(The first cars sold to the 
general public were vins in the  600 range)AFTER THE FACTORY SHUT 
DOWN ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE,and everything that had market value was 
sold,including any cars under the 600 VIN numbers,otherwise you would 
NOT SEE any cars under the sub 600 vins around today!! A SUPER SUPER 
SUPER deal,that nobody could resist.THIS IS MY LAST COMMENT ON THIS 
UNLESS YOU INSIST ON DRAGGING THIS FURTHER IN THE MUD.THEN you will 
leave me no choice but to reply.
 



--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxx> wrote:
> First off, YOU brought this up in public..  and I
> don't think a private deal between you and Rob is
> something you should be discussing in this manor.. 
> 
> With that said, I will defend myself.
> 
> Again, If you would have had all of the DeLorean stuff
> ready for us when we got there, then we would not have
> had to go through your stuff.  YOU told us to do it. 
> When Dave and I got there in the morning, you told us
> to start digging through you piles of crap to get a
> buried transmission, and doors...  When we got to the
> loft in the garage, YOU told us to look through the
> stuff.  If we would have waited for you to move all
> the junk around, and dig out the parts we would still
> be standing in your yard today!
> 
> You gave up your time for free??  Um..  Uh..  Well, I
> guess you did not have to be there with us as we went
> looking for all the parts.  And what about Rob PAYING
> you?  Id say you did nothing for free...  Shit, Mike
> even bought you lunch!
> 
> We have 4 guys working there.. I Personally was up for
> 24  hours straight that day.  The four of us worked
> for over 12 hours straight going through your crap,
> while you moved at a snail pace... Inspecting every
> part (not only delorean) in the place.
> 
> Your heat story is Bullshit.  When you winterize a
> building, you shut the water off and blow the pipes
> out.  From what I saw, your heat was forced air so you
> could have turned the heat on with no need to touch
> the water. Even if you did have to turn the heat on,
> small price considering what Rob paid you.  
> 
> The day was selected (from what I was told) based on
> YOUR NEED TO GET THE BUILDING EMPTY.  As far as I
> know, the stuff is still in a trailer at Rob's shop,
> so we know he was in no rush for it.
> 
> FWIW, your "other buyer" would have not shipped all
> that crap back to Europe...  And I hear the complete
> car you sold (#16686??) also ended up in Europe,
> because the American buyer dumped it, it was such a
> POS...  Maybe standards are lower across the pond? 
> 
> As far as Rob looking at the parts, and the deal you
> made... That is not for me to comment on.  I don't
> know anything about Rob's business.  However, There is
> no way he knew exactly what he was getting, and
> clearly he trusted you when you told him what you had.
>  We could all tell he was disappointed.
> 
> --- fivetwofive <cbl302@xxxx> wrote:
> > Sorry to say,IT WAS the other way around,Sure it was
> > "not perfect"in 
> > my garage,(no working garage is perfect)but when you
> > Guys left,YOU 
> > GUYS LEFT,IT WORSE THAN BEFORE YOU STARTED,You guys
> > TURNED everything 
> > upside down,in you quest to get everything
> > Delorean!!! Looking in 
> > EVERY NOOK and CORNER,I LET ALL YOU GUYS FREELY GO
> > INTO EVEY 
> > CORNER,in your quest!!SO DO NOT EVEN DARE TO MAKE
> > your CLAIMS!! I 
> > understand That IT WAS 10 Degrees,and no heat,The
> > building was 
> > winterized,and the water was turned off for the
> > winter(as in past 
> > winters my heat shut down and froze my
> > pipes$$$$)(The date was Robs 
> > picking)
> > HEY,I am only telling you from my side,and it was
> > Not a pretty pic.
> > Remember I did NOT OFFER TO SELL TO ROB, HE CALLED
> > ME and,he CAME 
> > OVER and looked at everything and wanted to buy the
> > cars POINT 
> > BLANK,EVEN THO I already had  TOLD HIM BEFORE BEFORE
> > BEFORE HE CAME 
> > DOWN that I ALREADY had a buyer.(and that buyer WAS
> > WILLING TO GIVE 
> > ME EVEN MORE THAN ROBS OFFER,AND HE WAS GOING TO PAY
> > ME a extra 
> > $1000.00 TO HELP HIM "LOAD" everything.I LOST MY
> > $$$$$,selling to 
> > Rob.And this is the Thanks I get.I GAVE OF MY TIME
> > FOR FREE TO help 
> > you people load everything,and worked HARDER,than
> > MOST of the guys 
> > there. (and IT WAS A LOT LOT LOT OF DMC PARTS!!!)I
> > could have just 
> > stood there,as it IS NEVER THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE
> > SELLER TO HELP. 
> > (NOT to mention the missing items)I AM only telling
> > my point,I never 
> > said anything bad about rob, (except his temper)ROB
> > IS HONEST HONEST 
> > HONEST!!!AND NOTHING BUT HONEST !!!!On the point of
> > "hiding"--- One 
> > and ONE of the reasons,everything was as YOU
> > claimed"messed up" was 
> > to show NOTHING was"TOUCHED" from where they had
> > BEEN FOR YEARS!!!
> > WHAT YOU SAW is what was there "untouched".I Could
> > not win either way 
> > with you guys,if I "sorted" things out,then you
> > people would accuse 
> > me of sorting/picking out/hiding things,BUT BY NOT
> > TOUCHING ANYTHING--
> > IT SHOWED MY HONESTY,and LETTING YOU guys pick and
> > CHOOSE what you 
> > guys wanted to take DELOREAN wise!!HEY I AM ONLY
> > SAYING THERE was ONE 
> > BAD apple in the BUNCH,(I do not know who)and he
> > spoiled it for 
> > everyone else.I WAS HONEST but someone in the group
> > was greedy,and 
> > took things that should not have been taken,and EVEN
> > went to the 
> > point   of hiding that fact!!! 
> > I learned my lesson,the hard way NEVER EVER trust
> > STRANGERS!!!! 
> > 
> > P.S.YES many MANY cars were COMPLETED,one example
> > was VIN# 16686 (he 
> > is on the DML)That car was one I did in 1988,and is
> > STILL being used 
> > today!!!! Others were Bricklins,Corvettes,Dodge Ram 
> >
> Charger,Mustang,GTO,Trans-AM,NINJA(motorcycle)Cosworth
> > VEGA, and on 
> > and on.  
> > 
> 
> 
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