RE: [DMCForum] Re: DML rejection of DMCForum
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I'll reprint:

Okay, so now it's time for me to get on my soap box.  There was an
editorial
in the recent issue of  <http://www.delorean-owners.org/dw/index.html>
DeLorean World bashing the  <http://www.dmcnews.com/> DMC-News mailing
list.


For those of you who haven't seen the article in D.W., it's one of those
things that you just have to read to believe. I for one, am rather
surprised
at the arrogance expressed in the article.

The DOA implies three fundamental, inalienable, but completely wrong
principles:

1) There is only one way to fix a problem with a DeLorean, and only the
DOA
can tell you how.

Other opinions are "misguided and dangerous". Apparently a DeLorean is the
only car that faces such imminent peril if handled improperly. Apparently,
the DMC will not be a roadworthy vehicle unless one purchases his/her
parts
and services only directly from a DeLorean World advertiser. I have never
seen any other marque or model of automobile described as being so
dangerous
if mishandled. If they are correct, then the DOA is in fact stating that
the
DMC simply isn't a good car. I take that as an insult to the marque. It's
my
opinion that the DOA is preying on it's less mechanically-savvy members,
leading them to believe their car would be unsafe to drive unless taken to
a
DOA-authorized service center. As we all know, this simply is not the
case.

2) The DMC News mailing list is a continual boxing match where "personal
attacks" and "flaming" are the norm.

I have not seen very much of this, to be honest. Any time you put 1,100
people together semi-anonymously, you will get friction. That is simply a
fact of life. I personally run a  <http://www.forwardlook.net/> mailing
list
for 1955-61 MoPars, with over 350 people subscribed. You get conflict. The
article goes as far as personally attacking the moderators as incompetent.
Maybe we should disband this list where healthy disagreements and
differences of opinion over various subjects flourish. Heck, if we keep it
up, we all just might actually expand our minds, and that would just be
wrong. I guess joining the DOA would be much better -- a utopian society
where we wouldn't have to have our own opinions! Imagine -- every thought
about our cars can be easily dictated to us by someone who will personally
profit by telling us his opinion. And as we all know, the DOA has -no-
conflict amongst its members, thanks to to the filtering process of D.W.
magazine straining any differences of opinion. Sign me up! (Oh, and
nevermind the fact that I know at least 10 people who have quit the DOA
over
the infighting in their organization, and the fact that all of the
regional
DOA chapters split away... they were all just troublemakers anyway,
right?)

3) And I quote: "As the economy improved, quality DeLoreans were selling
in
the 20's. Then came the mailing list and values plummeted".

Uhhh.... what? Face it. These cars are collectibles, but they're just not
$50,000 collectibles, and likely never will be. It's a basic truth, and we
all need to admit it. I have in front of me, several issues of Hemmings
Motor News from the early 1990's, and several from the present. The DMC
was
selling for the same price then as it is now. The whole argument is just
plain false. To blame the mailing list isn't even partially correct. In
fact, it's sad that the DOA has gone as far as seeking out a scapegoat
because their fantasies of riches in DeLorean sales has not come true.
Their
argument is such: The DMC plant closed, and prices went down. Then the JZD
trial, and prices went down again. Then the recession (which ended before
the trial, by the way), and prices went down further. "Then came the
mailing
list and values plummeted." (?) Values have been around the same since
about
1985, and that's a full 10 years before the mailing list came on the
scene.
There simply is no correlation. None whatsoever.

So what's my overall opinion? Am I mad at the DOA? No. Will I still join?
The answer is a very loud YES. Even after this slap in the face to over
1,100 people, many of which have taken enormous amounts of their own time,
going FAR out of their way to help me, seeking nothing in return... I will
still fork over my money to the organization that has gone so far out of
its
way to be so hurtful to us. 

Why then would I possibly still even consider joining? It's simple. They
care about the marque. With a passion. With great passion, actually.
That's
the way all of us who love DeLoreans feel. And despite what ever direction
your passions might take you, I will still respect you for simply even
-having- the passion. I just wish the DOA could feel the same.

A difference of opinion is not a sin. Open discussion is not bad. The DOA
does a lot for the DMC community, and we all owe them a great debt. It's
just sad to see them so angry, so petulant, over discovering they are not
the only game in town. It's also sad, but apparently an
unfortunate truth, that simply by writing this article, I will likely be
forever banned from buying parts from "One" DeLorean supplier. 

If the DOA truly wishes to expand the fame, recognition, and camaraderie
of
the DeLorean marque, they need to welcome -all- opinions, from any and ALL
sources. To do otherwise is to deliberately drive a wedge right through
the
middle of the DMC community.

Now, having said my peace, I will click "send" and welcome (unlike some
others) responses to my one-man editorial. 



-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Salsbury [mailto:paul.salsbury@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:15 AM
To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [DMCForum] Re: DML rejection of DMCForum



--- cruznmd <racuti1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

Why is this important? Because we're 
scattered all over the country so we can't meet
frequently.

Hey Were scattered all over the World.......

Paul
UK contingent



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