[DMCForum] still advance/retarded discussion
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[DMCForum] still advance/retarded discussion



Bill, you're right,  you never said that.  I misunderstood what you said.
I apologize... It seemed to me at the time that it made more sense that
you mixed up advanced/retarded instead of arguing that retarding
increases knock.  A knock sensor by definition retards timing when
activated.

It's easy to get confused when even you are contradicting yourself. 
First you say, 

>Back to 10, then start predetonating. Up to 13 and lose power.

and then

>Here's a little jewel from my new Volvo documentation been reading all
>night (B28F Manual, Section 2, Group 26, Page 21): "When the ignition
>advances the engine efficiency increases and the combustion
>temperature decreases."

So does advancing increase power or lose power?  Are you saying the
swedes are wrong? Or that increasing efficiency loses power?

>Predetonation is an uncontrolled explosion. Why do you think spark
>gaps are specified? To control flame propogation.

I think spark gaps are specified to get the correct voltage/duration of
spark that is needed for the engine to not misfire given the setup of the
engine and ignition system.  Spark plugs don't control flame propagation,
they start it.

>Is better to shoot spark sooner than to let mixture combust on its
>own. What in the world do you think those advance mechanisms are doing
>on distributor anyway?

They're not "anti-detonation control mechanisms"!!  They're for power and
flame propagation timing.

>If you really feel this way I suggest you disable spark advance on
>your distributor immediately (don't forget those pesky
counterweights)...

If I feel that to far advancing timing causes knock?

Jim


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