RE: [DMCForum] Re: The third circle of hell, or should I say "liner"
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RE: [DMCForum] Re: The third circle of hell, or should I say "liner"



This is precisely what I did. At this point, I could care less. I'm so fed
up with it right now that if the engine explodes, at least I could part
the
rest of the sum-bitch out.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cruznmd [mailto:racuti1@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 12:06 PM
> To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [DMCForum] Re: The third circle of hell, or should I say
"liner"
> 
> Ahhhhhhhh.......remember when I panicked about this?
> 
> Man I love this! I'm not the only one! (Sorry man)
> 
> How did you shift them? Trying to get the crank pulley nut off or
> what? How much did they shift?
> 
> Ok first, according to Martin and the DMCH dream team, this is bad.
> You can never tell if they kept their seal or not. These things are
> micro thin, and supposedly, they ruin for sure every time if you lift
> the liners. The amount of pressure put on them by bolting the head
> down is NOT necessarily enough. You'd think so though. Anyway:
> 
> I'm about to make a confession here that will shock some folks.
> 
> Not only did I "suspect" my liners of lifting, I lifted TWO of them an
> inch or so each. I almost cried.
> 
> Like Walt said, "Put the damn thing back together and see what happens".
> 
> I'm happy to report that after running the car, there is no coolant in
> my oil and everything seems sealed.
> 
> All you can do, is what I did. Either rip it out, and tear it down, or
> put it back together and "see what happens".
> 
> I took a huge chance that after 20 years the seals would stick to the
> liners or stick to the block and that they would come back together
> ok. I was right. That DOESN'T mean that everyone will get away with it
> but it's worth a try.
> 
> By the way Travis, I wrote a huge, comprehensive tech article covering
> all of this. The timing chain cover, the liners, every mistake I made!
> 
> Why aren't you using it?? It's free for cryin' out loud! Hell, it even
> has Dave Stragand's seal of approval on it!
> 
> Hang in there.
> 
> Rich
> #5335
> 
> 
> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin@xxxx> wrote:
> > That's right. Two of my piston liners moved.
> >
> > Everyone is saying how awful and terrible it is and that my life
> will never
> > be the same, but for the life of me I can't figure out how so.
> >
> > The Volvo manual states and I quote:
> >
> > "Caution! Make sure the cylinder heads do not separate from the
> seals at the
> > lower seat. If this happens, coolant can flow into the crankcase
> > necessitating a complete engine tear-down and cleaning."
> >
> > When you remove the head, under normal circumstances there would be
> coolant
> > in the block, which could run into the crank case if they moved. In
> my case,
> > the block is bone dry, so there was nothing to fall in. I suppose it's
a
> > possibility that coolant could leak beneath it when the head is on,
> but it
> > seems very remote. The amount of pressure that will be placed on
> them from
> > the top that should be more than enough to seal them back.
> >
> > And the seals are attached to the bottom of the liner and cannot move
or
> > shift, so there's no off-kilter seals to worry about.
> >
> > Let's say for arguments sake that I have to strip it down, take out
the
> > pistons and check the liners. Well, you have the same problem as
> before. YOU
> > MOVED THE LINERS... and this time you took them all the way out.
> Who's to
> > say when you put them back you got them down correctly?
> >
> > See my point, or am I blowing smoke?
> 
> 
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