AHA the mystery of the PRV claims another victim. I was almost as frustrated with the PRV at one point. I did manage to get it running, but having gone through so much trouble for 130hp (or less), I was livid enough to replace it with something better. You need to be more specific about what you checked and what you tested for! When you say that the FPR is new, did you check for functionality? I second Martin's approach to testing it. Just make sure that washer does not fall into the intake! Put a string on it or something! Take out all 6 fuel injectors, make sure hte pattern is right for the six. Jumper the RPM relay. Make sure that they are all NOT spraying. Push down the air flow meter a millimeter and they should all be spraying about the same amount. You note that not all seem to be sparking. Well take 6 plugs out and ground them all to the block. Have someone turn over the car. Do they all fire? If you are still uncertain about timing for any reason, pull the cap (AGAIN) and follow the ignition power from the coil to the rotor to the spark plug. Make sure the piston is near TDC. If you have the valve cover off, make sure that the intake valve has just closed. There are mechanical timing advances in the distributor. If a 40 cent spring broke, your timing could be off 5 degrees. After turning over a couple times, remove and check all the plugs. Are any wet? Are they all wet? They should all be dry. SPARK PLUGS don't spark for S when they are WET! Make sure that they are dry at all times! You dont even have to tighten your plugs until you at least have the thing running. This will make it easier to take them in/out. If you turn over a few times and it doesn't work, then you happen to have everything perfectly lined up in all fashions, the car will still either not start or run like crap until the plugs dry out. A flooded engine is the worst thing to try to troubleshoot. Keep those plugs dry!!!! Good luck. Jim --- "cruznmd" <racuti1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I believe that your guy can help. I certainly don't take it as an insult. All I'm saying is that I'm at the end of -my- knowledge. I did not adjust the rocker clearances as I did not remove the cams. I only removed the heads, checked for warpage, cleaned them up, exhaust gaskets etc. If you think it's still worth checking, I'll get on it. For what it's worth, I tried to start it a little later and it damn near caught. It was the strongest sputter I had yet. I just can't tell what it wants. More gas, less gas, better spark or what. I've had trouble with that relay that reduces the ballast resistor by half when you crank it. I have spark, but... Anyway, I'll take help where I can get it. Thanks. Rich --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Martin Gutkowski <webmaster@xxxx> wrote: > Don't freak just yet. I've forwarded this mail to my PRV guy who will be > able to help, come hell or high water. If all else fails, I'll pass on > his phoen number. Bill Robertson will back me up that he WILL be able to > help. He has already shown to us over here that there's a lot more to > this engine than what the DMC guys know (not to their detriment - but my > guy has the backup of years of experience on different PRVs) > > BTW did you check/adjust the rocker clearances? > > Martin > > cruznmd wrote: > > >That's right. I'm "out". > > > >Out of money, out of ideas and tricks, out of patience. > > > >I have replaced the starter, and all of the fuel components. I have > >spark on all 6 plugs, air and fuel. Too much or too little I don't > >know because I have no idea where to set the CO screw. > > > >The wires are in the correct order. I have spark. I've used a timing > >light while cranking the engine and I'm at 13 degrees BTDC. > > > >The engine is so tight the new starter can barely move it when all of > >the spark plugs are in. Obviously that's not right, but I followed > >the timing chain procedure in the manual and verified it with the > >people at DMCH. > > > >It shrieks like a beaten wife when it cranks because the oil I put in > >the cylinders to lube it is washed away by gas. > > > >As far as I can tell, when I pull all the plugs and start putting > >them in one by one, and cranking the engine with the addition of each > >plug, only 2 cylinders are making any kind of combustion. There are > >2 "thumps". As I add more plugs, there are no additional thumps, and > >the compression gets higher and higher as I add plugs and the engine > >slows down. > > > >I do not, nor am I ever likely to have funds to ship this thing to > >Houston or Long Island, and pay for repairs. 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