[DMCForum] Re: sad De Lorean on Ebay...
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[DMCForum] Re: sad De Lorean on Ebay...



Hello,
I'll chime in.  I'm the guy he first promised the car too.  I helped 
him out as much as I could and told him I would be interested in the 
car.  He said he would definately contact me first before he did 
anything.  Along the way I found out that this guy and Greg live in 
the same state, and he might benefit from Gregs knowledge, so I gave 
Greg the contact info.  I have a lot of pics of this car, so I'll 
put them in the Phots area under "EBAY PARTS CAR".  


Erik


--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "timnagin" <timnagin@xxxx> wrote:
> Ok, I hate gossip and office politics but I will tell some of what 
happened
> since I have been asked on and off list.  It's a long story so I 
will try to
> be brief.
> 
> I hope the background information is at least true, based on 
recent events I
> am not even sure about that.  This guy purchased three De Loreans 
from an
> estate sale.  The guy who owned all three of them had passed away 
and his
> family wanted to get rid of them as a lot.  The first two, one was 
the
> automatic that sold on Ebay, had a few problems and the seller 
wanted to
> make everything right because he didn't feel comfortable about 
selling a car
> with problems.  He is a used car salesmen. The red flag should 
have gone up
> here.
> 
> This first car sold on Ebay at the buy-it-now price of $14k, I 
believe, and
> much higher than he expected.  The second car, a five-speed, would 
run but
> wouldn't move under its own power.  On both of these cars I tried 
to help as
> much as I could, also posting some questions here, and other 
people behind
> the scenes on the DMCForum were contributing as well.  I will let 
those
> people speak up if they wish.
> 
> Through all of my personal efforts he kept telling me it was a 
blessing I
> had come along and he promised over and over he would make it up 
to me.
> Yesterday I found out he had told other people the same thing.
> 
> The third car, the one on Ebay, was undergoing a restoration to be 
a painted
> car.  When it came time to sell the parts car he said he would 
offer it to
> me first, and give me first refusal rights.  Yesterday, again, I 
found out
> he told at least one other person this same thing.  I said I 
wanted it, but
> since it was the weekend I needed until the first of the week to 
get the
> money to him.  He went ahead and put it on Ebay, "just to see what 
happens"
> and he put the right to pull the auction at anytime for my 
benefit.  All I
> had to do was tell him I wanted the car and he would end the 
auction.
> 
> Then he stated a sudden expense came up and he had to get as much 
for the
> car as possible and would leave it on Ebay.  If it didn't sell 
then he would
> offer it to me.  Before this sudden expense came up, he would have 
gladly
> accepted $1,000.00 for the car to, again, make it up to me.  I 
told him I
> was done and I no longer wanted the car and washed my hands of 
it.  The
> whole situation really left a bad taste in my mouth.  Keep in 
mind, we were
> helping him out for about a month already I think.
> 
> He also said the body panels have no holes in them. Well, ok, 
maybe no
> "holes" but the left front fender has been sliced up and tack-
welded back
> together.  Technically correct, no holes, but I believe this was 
misleading.
> The only body panel even remotely close to being perfect is the 
hood.  I am
> all for restoration, but I believe this is only a parts car.  To 
restore it
> you would be starting with just a pontoon, and even it has some 
damage.  The
> frame looks pretty rough too.  Remember the red De Lorean I am 
buying?  The
> red one is light-years better in condition.
> 
> The engine, missing the injectors at the very least, and turbo 
have sat
> exposed to the weather for no telling how long.
> 
> If anyone is interested ask him for pictures.  I have quite a few 
of the car
> as in the auction, and a few more with the body panels off.  I 
also have a
> dial-up connection, so if anyone wants to see them I guess I can 
upload them
> to Yahoo.
> 
> Ok, that was a Walt-sized post.  Sorry about that, but I would 
hate to see
> someone get screwed over this.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Walter Coe [mailto:Whalt@xxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 1:06 AM
> To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [DMCForum] sad De Lorean on Ebay...
> 
> 
> Before you posted this, I was going to suggest that you tell the 
whole story
> rather than just announce you are disappointed.  It's the juicy 
details that
> add the spice to life. ;-)
> 
> Walt



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