[doc] Re: Injector Cleaner
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[doc] Re: Injector Cleaner
- From: "andrew986186" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:53:18 -0000
oh and as for injector cleaner, ive rarely had success with it, and
ive used some of the so called best gear. To me its like using a
stocking for a fanbelt or cracking an egg and putting it in the
cooling system to plug any holes
--- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "andrew986186" <andy@...> wrote:
>
> hey all
> let me jump on board as well!
>
> every cars fuel tanks collect crap - thats thanks to the shite
> overpriced fuel we get plus crap inside filler necks and fuel
caps,
> fact of life,
> almost every car ive worked on (on thats a few!) the insides of
the
> tanks are dirty. Thats why we have fuel filters, obviously to save
> this crap going to places where it shouldnt.
> Generally on most fuel injected cars a filter can be located
before
> the fuel pump if external, and that is the best idea by far.
> Unfortunately we are blessed with an internal pump to collect the
> crap, and next in line is mr accumulator before we see mrs filter.
> Bad bad bad news
> Mr accumulator is a innocent man walking along past a group of
women
> throwing crap out of a window
> morale is i suppose clean yer tanks! look after mr accumulator and
> give mrs filter the boot every year!
> yeh baby!
>
> stiff 'i like naming car parts and get emotionally attached to
them'
> tannen
>
>
>
>
> --- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Nick Tomlinson
> <nickandkathryntomlinson@> wrote:
> >
> > I never said that the role of the accumulator was to colelct
crud,
> I am saying that due to the design of the k-jet fuel system, dirt
> happens to collect here.
> >
> > The accumulator prior to the filter I was referring is from
this
> standard k-jet diagram:
> >
> > http://www.auto-solve.com/mech_inj.htm
> > Fuel Tank>Accumulator>Filter>Fuel Distributor>
> >
> > With the classic Delorean problem of hot starting, it is
usually
> the accumulator that fails due to dirt and is well documented.
> >
> > I hope you weren't referring to myself giving poor advice as
it
> could be read this way.
> >
> > With this being an informal newsgroup I was under the
impression
> that we can all give our advice, opinions and experiences on here
> rather than using it as a blatant means of advertising of ones
> company. If individuals wished to use your services then surely
they
> would contact you direct.
> >
> > NickT.
> >
> >
> > Daniel Shane <dan@> wrote:
> > No, you said and a quote again " The accummulator is in the
fuel
> line prior
> > to the filter so any crud will always accumulate (cough-cough)
> here."
> >
> > "any crud will always" are the key words here. Crud will not
> always collect
> > in the accumulator.
> >
> > The accumulator's first job is to help smooth out any pulses in
> the flow of
> > the fuel, this is achieved by passing the fuel through a series
of
> baffles
> > and into a chamber giving it slight capacitance and a much
smother
> flow.
> >
> > Its other and possibly more important role is to maintain
pressure
> within
> > the system when the fuel pump has been switched off. Nothing to
do
> with
> > collecting crap in the fuel system.
> >
> > I'm not into trying to prove who knows more about this or that
I'm
> smarter
> > than someone else. I'm just trying to stop poor advice leading
to
> people
> > wrecking there cars and costing them an arm and a leg to fix. A
> metering
> > head can cost over 500 quid to rebuild and injectors also cost a
> bit.
> >
> > We all agree that a clean fuel system means a healthy Delorean
but
> if
> > everything is not clean then adding detergents and allowing the
> crud to
> > dissolve and move around the system is just bad advice.
> >
> > On a lighter note we have accumulator's, injectors, fuel pumps,
> fuel lines
> > and filters available just in case :)
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > DMC Ltd.
> >
> > On 19/2/06 15:09, "Nick Tomlinson"
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I never said that the accumulator did have a filter in. I am
> saying that this
> > > is a likely place for crud, dirt etc can accumulate.
> > >
> > > Anyway, it is not the easiest to fit but is an important part
of
> the k-jet
> > > fuel system.
> > > The location of this device prior to the main fuel filter
means
> that over
> > > time (unless the tank is spotlessly clean etc etc etc ) it can
> silt up.
> > >
> > > I think we can all agree that a clean fuel system is the way
> forward to
> > > reduce poor running cars.
> > >
> > > This time of year is the time to give the car a once over in
> readiness for
> > > summer driving.
> > >
> > > NickT.
> > >
> > > Daniel Shane wrote:
> > > ³The accummulator is in the fuel line prior to the filter so
any
> crud will
> > > always accumulate (cough-cough) here.²
> > >
> > > No The Accumulator has no filter in it, It may stop large bits
> but the
> > > small particles of crud will pass through it. If it did
> accumulate in it
> > > then it will cost you £105 for a new one and then it¹s a pig
to
> fit. You
> > > really want to risk it for the sake of not looking in the tank?
> > >
> > > There are 4 sets of filters as far as I¹m aware in the system.
> The one on
> > > the pickup hose in the tank, the main fuel filter, the
metering
> head has one
> > > on each of the 6 ports and the injectors themselves.
> > >
> > > I¹ve seen crud miss all of main ones and block the injectors
> filters up just
> > > like James¹s. You can try clean the injectors and whilst this
> may fix some
> > > it wont fix them all.
> > >
> > > Also The width of the metered slits in the fuel distributor's
> barrel
> > > assembly is only 0.2 mm across. Now that¹s small. It only
takes
> a small
> > > amount to block them.
> > >
> > > When was the last time most of us checked the pickup hose
> filter ??? If
> > > that breaks up then it can not only kill the pump but also
block
> the whole
> > > system up.
> > >
> > > Just check the tank, It¹s cheaper to lose a fuel tank of
petrol
> than the
> > > whole fuel system :)
> > >
> > > If there is crap in there then clean it out of if it¹s that
bad
> the Club has
> > > tanks in stock.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > DMC Ltd.
> > >
> > >
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