Re: [doc] nitrous delorean?
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Re: [doc] nitrous delorean?
- From: "blackaddertoo" <blackaddertoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:24:37 -0000
the good thing with nitrous is fairly cheap to buy, and you can
install yourself.
i did wonder where you would put the jets, as you need a good even
dispersal at air intake.
i gather you retard the timing and start with 25 bhp jets (or is it
50 petrol and 25 nos).
as i said, wouldn't the prv take around 180bhp unmodified (though
the clutch may give?
also what was the max bhp car the gearbox came from?.
i have plenty of work to do just to get on the road, but always
fancied trying nos.
did you see the golf nos tdi verses the honda nsx on top gear/5th
gear.
golf kept up for a long way.
regards
Steve
--- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Chris Hawes" <chris@xxxx> wrote:
>
> I forgot to add this useful link for the engine source used in the
Rotary
> DeLorean:-
> http://cp_www.tripod.com/rotary/pg09.htm
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of
> Chris Hawes
> Sent: 27 October 2005 07:42
> To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [doc] nitrous delorean?
>
> A Chevy converted DeLorean in the States has NOS fitted. The PRV
however is
> very well suited for NOS being a V6.
> http://photos.noroads.com/dcs2004?id=499 as photographed at Pigeon
Forge (I
> think more can be found on Tamir's website:-
> www.entermyworld.com
>
> NOS
> Nitrous Oxide kit (only one to be insured by Adrian Flux). Trevor
runs this
> company and would be the one to talk to in regard to Top Gear
(they did the
> Jag that eventually drove off a Destroyer into the North Sea and
became the
> tomb for Stig MKI.
> www.wizardsofnos.com
>
> For re-fills:-
> www.nitrousoxidesupplies.co.uk
>
> For DIY NOS:-
> http://www.diy-nitrous.fsnet.co.uk/
>
> Rotary powered DeLorean
> www.eliseusa.com/rotary.shtml
> I emailed the chap that did the conversion (he sold the car a
while back
> now) and his response is below:-
>
> Re: Rotary DeLorean 28/10/04
> Hello Chris,
>
> The 20b engine is a 2.0 Liter, 3-rotor rotary wankel engine,
300HP, and
> 297ft-lb of torque at 3000RPM. It was originally sold in a very
large
> heavy car, the eunos cosmo JC, sold by Mazda in 1990-1996 in
Japan and
> Australia. It resembles the 929. The miata (mx-5) is known as
the "eunos
> roadster" some places.
>
> The Cosmo was available only with an automatic transmission. Pics
are
> available at http://cp_www.tripod.com/rotary/pg09.htm with some
more
> specs. The horsepower figures are 'claimed' at 280hp because that
is the
> legal limit for street cars in Japan. Independent testing found
that the
> 20b is consistently ~300hp.
>
> Regarding what I'd change if I did it again, I'd probably use the
13b,
> 2-rotor. Parts are MUCH easier to find, and it would fit in the
Delorean
> better. The 20b and the extra gear in the g50 transmission ended
up making
> the unit very long, only fitting in the D frame with significant
> modification. The 5-speed box or the 2 rotor (one rotor and side-
housing
> shorter ~6") would make a better fit. It's also lighter. They
also have
> much less electronics than the 20b, which came in a state-of-the-
art luxury
> car in the 90s (read, thousands of wires).
>
> Turbos are often used more than superchargers because they take
away less
> power to operate well. They're also more often used with
> small-displacement engines. The import engines generally rev to
higher
> RPMs, and turbos are more effective/efficient than superchargers
at higher
> RPMs.
>
> Adding NOS to your car is probably a reasonable modification that
can be
> done without spending the time and money on conversion. Also,
resale value
> on conversions are JUST NOT very good in general, and are horrific
with the
> Delorean. You can pick up a nice "wet" NOS setup for ~$600USD,
and you
> could expect a reasonably increase in HP. You just have to be
willing to
> change NOS bottles when they go empty, which is only as fun as you
can make
> it.
>
> I don't think I'd put the NOS in the trunk though, that seems a
little far
> away from the point of use. I'm not sure if there is a reasonably
better
> place to put on though- maybe in the pooka behind the driver
seat? Maybe
> make a hole in the rear pontoon? Well, I guess it depends on the
size of
> the bottle.
>
> Jim
>
> The NOS prices you saw are pretty high, you can look at some
systems at
> http://www.jegs.com/cgi-
> bin/ncommerce3/CategoryDisplay?cgmenbr=361&cgrfnbr=666
>
> Remember, you don't have EFI. It's mechanical Fuel Injection,
and may
> make a difference depending on the setup.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
---------
>
> Steve,
> I personally think of NOS like a pay as you go mobile phone,
convenient,
> cheap initial outlay but extremely high running costs. If like me
you are
> planning on keeping your DeLorean for a long time then perhaps an
engine
> swap could be the better long term solution. DMC Ltd is offering
some mouth
> watering alternatives....
>
> Regards,
>
> Chris Hawes
> Vin 5255
> DOC 138
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of
> blackaddertoo
> Sent: 27 October 2005 01:44
> To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [doc] nitrous delorean?
>
> now i know some might cring! but has anyone ever seen nitrous
fitted
> to a delorean.
> i am currently working in the valley of death and the thought
occured
> to me that jets could be installed in the rubber flexible part of
the
> air intake pipes
> kits can be bought cheaply, perfectly legal, some insurers are ok.
> can be easily removed.
> would gains of 25-50 bhp hurt an unmodifed prv engine? aren't
these
> capable of upto 180 bhp or so. (ie the single turbo)
> contrary to popular blief, nitrous does not neccesarily damage
engines
> and supplier/installers such as streetblaster 100 guarantee this.
> just a thought.
>
> always meant to fit to my skyline but never got round to it!.
>
> Regards
>
> steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
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