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Dick mulholland said it all for me
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  From: dmcjohn@xxxxxxxxxxx
  To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 5:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [doc] Poll results for doc-uk


  Hi lads,

  I finally got to see the DeLorean documentary yesterday, and no, I
  will definitely not be changing my opinion of John Z. DeLorean, or
  for that matter the completely biased and manipulative British press.

  Before I begin my rant of giving out about this documentary, please
  remember that I have only seen it once, but during the show found a
  lot of things to complain about, and I hope I can remember most of
  them here, if not, when I watch it again soon, I will post further
  comments.

  For the most part, it was an enjoyable documentary, when talking
  about the car.

  When the subject of John DeLorean came up, it was all very carefully
  designed and constructed to enforce the usual bad light he is
  portrayed in.

  I was especially disappointed with Dessi O'Malleys comments, but I
  think he is just a sore loser, and hides his hurt with false triumph
  that suggests "thank god we weren't that stupid to invest in this
  company, we saw through him from the beginning", etc. etc. I think
  he feels insulted that DeLorean did not stay in the Republic, and
  now has the opportunity to pretend that he wasn't wanted anyway,
  with a kind of "I told you so" attitude.

  moving along...

  One very easy way to prove that this documentary was designed to
  further hurt John DeLoreans reputation (unjustly) is the piece they
  did on the lie detector exam he took. They show 3 questions, (and I
  forget the wording of them) but the basic jist of the questioning
  was had he ever been dishonest in past business dealing, had he ever
  cheated anyone in business, etc. To which, John answered yes to all
  of them.

  These questions were taken out of context, and no voiceover was
  present to explain these questions were not in relation to his work
  at DMC. These were questions on previous business deals he was
  involved in, and were the "control" in the test. I'm sure most
  people who saw that clip would see it as a confession from John that
  he was guilty of the charges brought against him. No mention was
  made of the fact that John denied all illegal involvement in drug
  deals etc. and trying to raise money for DMC thru illegal business
  transactions - questions he said NO to, and passed with flying
  colors.

  What do you think of that Neal? Was that a fair portrayal of his
  innocence in this arrest?

  I've never said that John is a saint, and I believe that every
  business man including John has made some less than 100% ethical and
  honest decisions in their dealings, as he admitted in that lie
  detector exam.

  Of course they show the damming video in room 501 of the LAX
  Sheraton hotel, with no comment present at all of John's
  explaination of what was really going on there, or the events
  leading up to that day. No mention of the FBI intimidating John and
  threatening his family every time he tried to pull away from doing
  business with the so called mafia guys in that room. No mention of
  the FACT that the FBI manipulated, doctored and created
  (!) "evidence" in an attempt to get him sent to jail, to such an
  extent that one of teh FBI agents decided that he couldn't standby
  and watch any more of this injustice, and actually testified on
  behalf of the defence, and admitted to doctoring evidence, etc.

  None of this above is heresay or gullibility on my part, it is
  simply documented, actual, fact.
  Not everything you see in the papers and watch on TV is the truth,
  try doing some of your own research and then you can come to an
  informed and enlightened opinion.

  Gotta go, but will watch the show again at the weekend and pick up
  on more points I noted while watching it.

  Best wishes,
  John

  --- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "neal barclay" <neal.barclay@xxxx>
  wrote:
  > I think the 10 voters should watch the bbc 4 program
  > again
  > neal
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >   To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >   Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 3:02 AM
  >   Subject: [doc] Poll results for doc-uk
  >
  >
  >
  >   The following doc-uk poll is now closed.  Here are the
  >   final results:
  >
  >
  >   POLL QUESTION: What is your opinion of John DeLorean?
  >
  >   CHOICES AND RESULTS
  >   - I admire him for everything he has achieved, and feel that he
  put his best effort into DMC, and had the best of intentions at all
  times., 10 votes, 66.67% 
  >   - I think he made a good effort with DMC, but he was not 100%
  committed to the company, and this solely led to its downfall, 5
  votes, 33.33% 
  >   - I think he stole millions from the UK government, and is a con
  man, and should have served jail time., 0 votes, 0.00% 
  >
  >   INDIVIDUAL VOTES
  >   - I admire him for everything he has achieved, and feel that he
  put his best effort into DMC, and had the best of intentions at all
  times.
  >        - dmcjohn@xxxx
  >        - andrewkowalyk@xxxx
  >        - lisa.pennington@xxxx
  >        - dgantley@xxxx
  >        - delorean@xxxx
  >        - joeyoseppijoe@xxxx
  >        - m.jimmer@xxxx
  >        - mcauleydmc@xxxx
  >        - simioid2001@xxxx
  >        - frp80@xxxx
  >   - I think he made a good effort with DMC, but he was not 100%
  committed to the company, and this solely led to its downfall
  >        - ibolden@xxxx
  >        - chrisparnham1@xxxx
  >        - neal.barclay@xxxx
  >        - diashi_uk@xxxx
  >        - fiftynine_lespaul@xxxx
  >   - I think he stole millions from the UK government, and is a con
  man, and should have served jail time.
  >
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