No, it's a degree of disconnection from the car that I don't like. You can't control how the engine relates to the ground. I've had some hair-raising experiences in automatics (not D's) - one example is slamming on the anchors, locking up (which was scary enough) stalling as a result, and engine-not-being-connected-directly-to-wheels, the bugger didn't re-start when I came off the pedal. On a blind corner in the dark and rain. With a dodgy starter. I don't like the way you start "learning" where to throttle the engine on a particular corner or roundabout to stop the thing changing gear at the wrong moment. Maybe I'd just be happy with the best the engine has got in that gear, but oh no, you want to kick down..... Mainly aimed the modern ones with too many gears OK rant over :-) Martin Mike Bosworth wrote: >Yes thats the spirt.... Its only 'Autobox Envy' at the end of the >day :) > >Mike >#2001- Now with 45 Watts RMS per Channel CD player....feel the >power :):) > > DOC UK Website: www.deloreans.co.uk Unsubscribe: doc-uk-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ** Unless otherwise stated, all messages posted to the group are assumed public and may be printed in the club magazine ** Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/doc-uk/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: doc-uk-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/