[doc] Re: Injector Cleaner

["andrew986186" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

oh and as for injector cleaner, ive rarely had success with it, and 
ive used some of the so called best gear. To me its like using a 
stocking for a fanbelt or cracking an egg and putting it in the 
cooling system to plug any holes 

--- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "andrew986186" <andy@...> wrote:
>
> hey all
> let me jump on board as well!
> 
> every cars fuel tanks collect crap - thats thanks to the shite 
> overpriced fuel we get plus crap inside filler necks and fuel 
caps, 
> fact of life, 
> almost every car ive worked on (on thats a few!) the insides of 
the 
> tanks are dirty. Thats why we have fuel filters, obviously to save 
> this crap going to places where it shouldnt.
> Generally on most fuel injected cars a filter can be located 
before 
> the fuel pump if external, and that is the best idea by far. 
> Unfortunately we are blessed with an internal pump to collect the 
> crap, and next in line is mr accumulator before we see mrs filter. 
> Bad bad bad news
> Mr accumulator is a innocent man walking along past a group of 
women 
> throwing crap out of a window
> morale is i suppose clean yer tanks! look after mr accumulator and 
> give mrs filter the boot every year!
> yeh baby!
> 
> stiff 'i like naming car parts and get emotionally attached to 
them' 
> tannen
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Nick Tomlinson 
> <nickandkathryntomlinson@> wrote:
> >
> > I never said that the role of the accumulator was to colelct 
crud, 
> I am saying that due to the design of the k-jet fuel system, dirt 
> happens to collect here.
> >    
> >   The accumulator prior to the filter I was referring is from 
this 
> standard k-jet diagram:
> >    
> > http://www.auto-solve.com/mech_inj.htm   
> >   Fuel Tank>Accumulator>Filter>Fuel Distributor>
> >    
> >   With the classic Delorean problem of hot starting, it is 
usually 
> the accumulator that fails due to dirt and is well documented.
> >    
> >   I hope you weren't referring to myself giving poor advice as 
it 
> could be read this way.
> >    
> >   With this being an informal newsgroup I was under the 
impression 
> that we can all give our advice, opinions and experiences on here 
> rather than using it as a blatant means of advertising of ones 
> company. If individuals wished to use your services then surely 
they 
> would contact you direct.
> >    
> >   NickT.
> >   
> > 
> > Daniel Shane <dan@> wrote:
> >   No, you said and a quote again " The accummulator is in the 
fuel 
> line prior
> > to the filter so any crud will always accumulate (cough-cough) 
> here."
> > 
> > "any crud will always" are the key words here. Crud will not 
> always collect
> > in the accumulator.
> > 
> > The accumulator's first job is to help smooth out any pulses in 
> the flow of
> > the fuel, this is achieved by passing the fuel through a series 
of 
> baffles
> > and into a chamber giving it slight capacitance and a much 
smother 
> flow.
> > 
> > Its other and possibly more important role is to maintain 
pressure 
> within
> > the system when the fuel pump has been switched off. Nothing to 
do 
> with
> > collecting crap in the fuel system.
> > 
> > I'm not into trying to prove who knows more about this or that 
I'm 
> smarter
> > than someone else. I'm just trying to stop poor advice leading 
to 
> people
> > wrecking there cars and costing them an arm and a leg to fix. A 
> metering
> > head can cost over 500 quid to rebuild and injectors also cost a 
> bit.
> > 
> > We all agree that a clean fuel system means a healthy Delorean 
but 
> if
> > everything is not clean then adding detergents and allowing the 
> crud to
> > dissolve and move around the system is just bad advice.
> > 
> > On a lighter note we have accumulator's, injectors, fuel pumps, 
> fuel lines
> > and filters available just in case :)
> > 
> > Dan
> > 
> > DMC Ltd.
> > 
> > On 19/2/06 15:09, "Nick Tomlinson" 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > I never said that the accumulator did have a filter in. I am 
> saying that this
> > > is a likely place for crud, dirt etc can accumulate.
> > > 
> > > Anyway, it is not the easiest to fit but is an important part 
of 
> the k-jet
> > > fuel system.
> > > The location of this device prior to the main fuel filter 
means 
> that over
> > > time (unless the tank is spotlessly clean etc etc etc ) it can 
> silt up.
> > > 
> > > I think we can all agree that a clean fuel system is the way 
> forward to
> > > reduce poor running cars.
> > > 
> > > This time of year is the time to give the car a once over in 
> readiness for
> > > summer driving.
> > > 
> > > NickT.
> > > 
> > > Daniel Shane wrote:
> > > ³The accummulator is in the fuel line prior to the filter so 
any 
> crud will
> > > always accumulate (cough-cough) here.²
> > > 
> > > No The Accumulator has no filter in it, It may stop large bits 
> but the
> > > small particles of crud will pass through it. If it did 
> accumulate in it
> > > then it will cost you £105 for a new one and then it¹s a pig 
to 
> fit. You
> > > really want to risk it for the sake of not looking in the tank?
> > > 
> > > There are 4 sets of filters as far as I¹m aware in the system. 
> The one on
> > > the pickup hose in the tank, the main fuel filter, the 
metering 
> head has one
> > > on each of the 6 ports and the injectors themselves.
> > > 
> > > I¹ve seen crud miss all of main ones and block the injectors 
> filters up just
> > > like James¹s. You can try clean the injectors and whilst this 
> may fix some
> > > it wont fix them all.
> > > 
> > > Also The width of the metered slits in the fuel distributor's 
> barrel
> > > assembly is only 0.2 mm across. Now that¹s small. It only 
takes 
> a small
> > > amount to block them.
> > > 
> > > When was the last time most of us checked the pickup hose 
> filter ??? If
> > > that breaks up then it can not only kill the pump but also 
block 
> the whole
> > > system up.
> > > 
> > > Just check the tank, It¹s cheaper to lose a fuel tank of 
petrol 
> than the
> > > whole fuel system :)
> > > 
> > > If there is crap in there then clean it out of if it¹s that 
bad 
> the Club has
> > > tanks in stock.
> > > 
> > > Dan
> > > 
> > > DMC Ltd.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > DOC UK Website: www.deloreans.co.uk
> > > Unsubscribe: doc-uk-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > ** Unless otherwise stated, all messages posted to the group 
are 
> assumed
> > > public and may be printed in the club magazine **
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Yahoo! Photos ? NEW, now offering a quality print service from 
> just 8p a
> > > photo.
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > DOC UK Website: www.deloreans.co.uk
> > > Unsubscribe: doc-uk-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > ** Unless otherwise stated, all messages posted to the group 
are 
> assumed
> > > public and may be printed in the club magazine **
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > SPONSORED LINKS 
> > > 
> > > Recreation 
> > > > 
> 
=Sports&w4=Delorean+part&w5=Delorean+cadillac&c=5&s=86&.sig=zs66pKBA8
> nSw5npqyF
> > > 5SaA> Automotive
> > > > 
> =Sports&w4=Delorean+part&w5=Delorean+cadillac&c=5&s=86&.sig=kvbr-
> y2HHa-zLBP1AL
> > > zd6g> Sports 
> > > > 
> 
rts&w4=Delorean+part&w5=Delorean+cadillac&c=5&s=86&.sig=NnhqHHVV1QxG0
> wYCpswV5g
> > > > 
> > > Delorean part 
> > > > 
> 
&w3=Sports&w4=Delorean+part&w5=Delorean+cadillac&c=5&s=86&.sig=TiVHg_
> Qinip0JBg
> > > H18jPNQ> Delorean cadillac
> > > > 
> 
tive&w3=Sports&w4=Delorean+part&w5=Delorean+cadillac&c=5&s=86&.sig=pK
> GufIiNyMV
> > > oc2mKB-zQiw> 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
> > > 
> > > * Visit your group "doc-uk " on the
> > > web.
> > > * 
> > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > * doc-uk-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > 
> > > * 
> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of 
> Service
> > > .
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > DOC UK Website: www.deloreans.co.uk
> > Unsubscribe: doc-uk-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > ** Unless otherwise stated, all messages posted to the group are 
> assumed public and may be printed in the club magazine ** 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >             
> > ---------------------------------
> > Yahoo! Messenger  NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide 
> with voicemail 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>









DOC UK Website: www.deloreans.co.uk
Unsubscribe: doc-uk-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
** Unless otherwise stated, all messages posted to the group are assumed public and may be printed in the club magazine **

SPONSORED LINKS

Recreation	Automotive	Sports
Delorean part	Delorean cadillac

---

YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS

•  Visit your group "doc-uk" on the web.
   
•  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
   doc-uk-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
   
•  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

---