Re: [doc] Non Start - Advice Please

["nick12dmc" <Tammyfew@xxxxxxx>]

Hi Robin,
         This sounds very much like the problems I have had.
I will be very intrested in the outcome.
If you need to move/start the car I will put money on that it will
bump start by pushing or towing. 
If this is the case both our cars seam to have a similar fault.
This problem has even stumped the very experanced race mechanics at
work. 
Its a very frustrating problem, I checked everything and had the 
multimeter out as well testing components.

Regards
Nick H

--- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Robin Simpson" <rps@xxxx> wrote:
> 
> We'll I (and the AA man that was looking at it for 3 hours !) have 
> failed.
> 
> Got fuel, got a spark, had the plugs in and out more times than I 
> care to remember, checked all the fuses loads of time, checked the 
> fuel pump etc etc etc and it still doesn't bloody start !
> 
> Recover to DMUK booked for tuesday - will let you know the outcome.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Robin
> 
> --- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Richard" <dickyh11@xxxx> wrote:
> > Without wishing to sound like a stuck record/patronising or
> > condescending or any of those other things that happen through
> > misinterpreted emails,
> > You *have* checked all your fuses right? Particularly 1&7...
> > 
> > A working rev counter is not necessarily an indication of a 
working 
> RPM
> > relay, since they share the same signal line, however, a working 
> fuel
> > pump when cranking -is- a sign the RPM is working (at least 
> partially)
> > 
> > There is this strange obsession with the cold start valve/thermo 
> time
> > switch being the root of all evil when it comes to non-cold-
> starters, I
> > know of at least two cars that start perfectly well without the 
cold
> > start valve connected!
> > 
> > Do some pulling and re-plugging of fuses and relays, crappy 
> connections
> > here are the common cause of electrical failures....
> > 
> > Rich H
> > DOC 365 VIN 1274
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Robin Simpson [mailto:rps@xxxx]
> > > Sent: 26 March 2005 20:12
> > > To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [doc] Non Start - Advice Please
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi All
> > > 
> > > Well, had an hours worth of fiddling before it got too cold and 
> too
> > > dark and still nothing !
> > > 
> > > Swapped the regulator plug to the cold start valve which made no
> > > difference, pump is definately working, RPM relay is working as 
> the
> > > revcounter works when cranking, there is power to the coil, and
> > > theres a fuel smell after continued cranking.
> > > 
> > > Am gonna get an assist in the morning and see if we've got 
sparks 
> to
> > > the plugs, and if so I have no idea !
> > > 
> > > All the fuel filters we changed less than 3000 miles ago as was 
> all
> > > of the injectors, metering head, fuel pressure regulator and 
coil.
> > > 
> > > Will keep you posted.
> > > 
> > > R
> > > 
> > > --- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "nick12dmc" <Tammyfew@xxxx> 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have had similar problems with LJH. Warren a DMC Houston
> > > > advises checking the electrical connectors on the cold start 
> valve
> > > > and the thermo time switch. The spade connectors can push up 
> into
> > > > the plugs and cause intermitant starting.
> > > > Another area to check is the fuel tank, The fuel pump may be 
> working
> > > > but check its pumping fuel and the filter screen or pick up 
hose
> > > are
> > > > not cloged. This causes reduced fuel pressure which is LJH's
> > > problem.
> > > > When I get chance I will have to do some tank diving.
> > > > (oh and check the fuel pump fuse just in case its that)
> > > > Regards
> > > > Nick H
> > > >
> > > > --- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Richard" <dickyh11@xxxx> 
wrote:
> > > > > It'd still start without it, you'd just have to crank it a 
> little
> > > > more.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd bet diamonds it's electrical, let us know how you get 
on 
> when
> > > > you
> > > > > get home
> > > > >
> > > > > Rich H
> > > > > DOC 365 VIN 1274
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Robin Simpson [mailto:rps@xxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: 26 March 2005 13:18
> > > > > > To: doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [doc] Non Start - Advice Please
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Rich
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Unlikely, the thermo time switch fires your cold start
> > > injector
> > > > to
> > > > > > > assist with a cold start....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Exactly - it won't cold start.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pump is definately running.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am at work so can't have a play about until later.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > R
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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