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3385. DMC Joe                   Re: JZD in the news
3386. DMC Joe                   Re: Power to Fuel pump???
3387. DMC Joe                   Re: alarm/door lights/interesting occurance
3388. DMC Joe                   DMC Joe Signing Off
3389. mdeluca(AT)comtechpst.com    Northeast Delorean Association
3390. steve brodsky             Re: Replacement Tires for the Originals?
3391. Peter Lucas               backup lights on in Park--still no luck
3392. Police6627(AT)aol.com        questions
3393. mdeluca(AT)comtechpst.com    Long Island Delorean Association ????
3394. William T Wilson          Re: Replacement Tires for the Originals?
3395. Joe Palatinus             Brakes
3396. magriese(AT)us.ibm.com       Re: Replacement Tires for the Originals?
3397. magriese(AT)us.ibm.com       Re: alarm/door lights/interesting occurance
3398. NJP548(AT)aol.com            Re: alarm/door lights/interesting occurance
3399. Mark Noeltner             Re: Replacement Tires for the Originals?
3400. Mark Noeltner             Re: alarm/door lights/interesting occurance
3401. Stian Birkeland           The body dies are in the ocean - but can THIS be 
3402. Mike03062(AT)aol.com         Re: Idler pulley bolts
3403. Iznodmad(AT)aol.com          Re: North Carolina DeLoreans
3404. Robert Greenhaw           What is it about Left Front Fenders?
3405. cbl302(AT)msn.com            POLL: How many people own more than 1 delorean.Or
3406. Mike Cutting              tires..
3407. Marc A Levy               Re: POLL: How many people own more than 1 delorea
3408. DMC83in99(AT)aol.com         Re: Brakes
3409. Robert Hlavacek           Babe Magnet D
3410. DMC83in99(AT)aol.com         Horn
3411. delorean502(AT)excite.com    pic request
3412. Todd Bankhead             Re: Brakes
3413. delorean502(AT)excite.com    interior
3414. William T Wilson          Re: What is it about Left Front Fenders?
3415. Chris Coplen              Re: NCT Tires
3416. SteveDMC                  Re: The body dies are in the ocean - but can THIS
3417. Tamir Ardon               Check this out!!
3418. Hank Breer                Re: Horn
3419. Lee                       Re: What is it about Left Front Fenders?
3420. BRUCE BENSON              Re: What is it about Left Front Fenders?
3421. Michael Reinemuth         Re: The body dies are in the ocean - but can THIS
3422. Gerald Deutsch            Porsche meets DeLorean...
3423. Lee                       DMC Keys with light
3424. John Hanley               Re: The body dies are in the ocean - but can THIS
3425. yugoman                   Re: North Carolina DeLoreans
3426. Comet42483(AT)aol.com        Re: Horn
3427. mike(AT)mrcopies.com         Stamping New Body Panels
3428. Dave Swingle              ADMIN Test message
3429. efren hicks               Re: Babe Magnet D
3430. Mike Thomas               Re: Babe Magnet D
3431. Dave Swingle              ADMIN NOTE - List problem
3432. Dave Swingle              ADMIN Test3
3433. David Swingle             ADMIN Test4
3434. Dave Swingle              ADMIN - MAILING LIST IS DOWN
3435. Dave Swingle              ADMIN Test 7
3436. Dave Swingle              ADMIN Test 8
3437. yugoman                   More DeLorean sites
3438. RonPti(AT)aol.com            Help!!!
3439. Harvey Seigel             Rare items?
3440. IVe099(AT)aol.com            New DeLorean information
3441. Harvey Seigel             St.Louis DOA article
3442. Stian Birkeland           Re: New DeLorean information
3443. Dave Swingle              ADMIN test 9
3444. Dave Swingle              We're Baaaack!!!
3445. raddad(AT)cmn.net            Re: windex??
3446. raddad(AT)cmn.net            Re: asi manual / accessories
3447. SweatyEddy                Re: The body dies are in the ocean - but can THIS
3448. stevedmc(AT)i-55.com         Re: The body dies are in the ocean - but can THIS
3449. delorean502(AT)excite.com    fuel problem update
3450. eurojet(AT)sdcoe.k12.ca.us   Weekend Adventures
3451. DMC Joe                   WERE BACK !
3452. DMC Joe                   Re: Help!!!
3453. at88mph                   1 headlight not working
3454. raddad(AT)cmn.net            Re: Winter storage (was fuel update)
3455. Mike Substelny            Re: fuel problem update
3456. Rob van der Veer          Re: Fuel/Engine trouble
3457. Marc A Levy               Re: New DeLorean information
3458. Stian Birkeland           Craig Radio Manual
3459. Jake                      Re: 1 headlight not working
3460. delorean502(AT)excite.com    buzzing noise
3461. DMC83in99(AT)aol.com         More fuel system problems
3462. Josh S.                   Re: 1 headlight not working
3463. William F. Lane           Re: Craig Radio Manual
3464. BRUCE BENSON              Re: Craig Radio Manual
3465. DMC Joe                   Re: Horn
3466. DMC Joe                   Re: alarm/door lights/interesting occurance
3467. DMC83in99(AT)aol.com         Update on the fuel system problems
3468. DMC Joe                   Re: More fuel system problems
3469. Tamir Ardon               Delorean Atari Machine
3470. Rodger I. Vannatter       overheating
3471. DMC Joe                   Re: Brakes
3472. DMC Joe                   Re: buzzing noise
3473. King, Bob                 clutch cable/clutch master cylinder
3474. Mike Substelny            Re: clutch cable/clutch master cylinder
3475. DMC Joe                   Re: clutch cable/clutch master cylinder
3476. Hank Breer                Re: Craig Radio Manual
3477. delorean502(AT)excite.com    Re: buzzing noise
3478. James Espey               Looking for Raz D'Angelo
3479. jtrealty(AT)webspan.net      N. Y. CAR SHOW
3480. Greg Linstad              No Subject
3481. David Sontos              Re: More fuel system problems
3482. DMC Joe                   Re: overheating
3483. NJP548(AT)aol.com            Re: alarm/door lights/interesting occurance
3484. Paraversal(AT)aol.com        Re: Delorean Atari Machine
3485. Dave Swingle              ADMIN: DMCNews Web Page Updated
3486. S Levy                    Hello.
3487. Robert Hlavacek           Re: Weekend Adventures
3488. Rob van der Veer          Re: alarm/door lights/interesting occurance
3489. delorean502(AT)excite.com    wheel bearings
3490. DMC Joe                   Re: clutch cable/clutch master cylinder
3491. DMC Joe                   Re: buzzing noise
3492. DMC Joe                   Re: Fuel/Engine trouble
3493. DMC Joe                   Re: alarm/door lights/interesting occurance
3494. Martin Gutkowski          Re-Gassed Door Struts
3495. delorean502(AT)excite.com    Just Shoot Me
3496. John Hanley               Re-Gassed Door Struts
3497. CBL302(AT)aol.com            Re: wheel bearings
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This is current news. Mr. DeLorean has been in and out of court since 1982.
Every few months there is a new development.
 
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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From: Michael Babb <michael.babb(AT)mindspring.com>
Subject: [DML] Re: JZD in the news
Date: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 9:55 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but I seam to remember an article with almost the
exact wording in the past?  Is this a new development, or the reoccurance
of a past issue with DeLorean?
Michael Babb

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Just have your mechanic give us a call, we will be happy to assist him. Be
aware that we will be at the big DeLorean Cruise-In show this weekend so
your mechanic will have to wait till Monday to consult with us. Our phone
number is 770 631-4800 tell him to ask for DMC Joe.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
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> From: hobiedmc(AT)hotmail.com
> Subject: [DML] Power to Fuel pump???
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I own a 81 DeLorean that needs quite a bit of work.  Currently my
> mechanic is stomped as he need to get power to the fuel pump and he
> doesn't know how.  Can anyone help?
> 
> Terri

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One of the switches controls door and interior lights, the other is for the
key buzzer. To test your door lights locate the wiring harness that
contains the wires that connect to the driver door switches, depending on
your Vin #, locate the purple/pink  or purple/white wires and jump them to
the black ground wire. The lights should illuminate. If they do you have
isolated the problem to either a defective or missing door light switch.
 
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> From: King, Bob <BKing(AT)maxis.com>
> Subject: [DML] alarm/door lights/interesting occurance
> However, the driver's door lights still do not work.  I have no idea what
> was done electrically during the installation to make the passenger door
> lights come on, but if anyone knows a way to get these lights to come on,
> please let me know.  Something I did notice during all of this is that
there
> are supposed to be 2 of those 'push pegs' at the driver's door hinge, an
> upper and a lower.  I am missing the lower one.  What function does this
> lower peg serve?
> 
> Bob

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To all,
As you all know Stephen Wynne, Rob Grady, and myself will be attending the
big SEDOC DeLorean Cruise-In Event in Atlanta this weekend. Therefore I
will not be participating on the list until Monday. If you have an
emergency concerning your DeLorean go to our web-site and click on the HELP
button and post your message.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:39:33 -0700
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I have been trying to see if there is enough interest in a NorthEast,
Delorean association, the response has not been great but fortunately
there is some interest. Any one interested in NY, NJ CT, RI etc. please
contact me at mdeluca(AT)Comtechpst.com.  
Mike D.
Vin 3113
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why all the discussion on NCT's. My original NCT's only served me for about 12,000 miles
(original owner). Aren't the Yoko's a better replacement in the original size?
 
steve brodsky #10688
hobiedmc(AT)hotmail.com wrote:
> The original tires for the DMC are Goodyear NCT 195/60HR14 (front) and
> Goodyear Eagle GT 245/60R15.  I've been unsuccessful in trying to find
> exact replacements of the originals.
>
> I've been able to locate another brand of tires for the front that are
> H rated.  However, it's been a challenge to locate replacement tires
> for the rear that has the same speed rating.  Is having a different
> speed rating (front and rear) a problem?  Should I go with a different
> size tires to have match up the speed rating on the tires?  What would
> you guys recommend as replacements tires?  I would prefer to get the
> originals if that was possible.
>
> Terri
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I am still trying to diagnose the problem I have been having in which my
backup lights are on in Park and Neutral, as well as reverse.
I have removed the multifunctin switch from the transmission for
examination. The lights go on and off when I press one of the two little
buttons, but no positioning of the switch in its place will make the lights
go off with the car in Park.
Is there some kind of adjustment of the mechinism inside the transmission
that activates this switch, or is the switch itself defective? (it shows
some subtle signs of having been hit at some point).  Does anybody have a
switch assembly left over from a governor computer transplant that they
would be willing to part with? Other than replacing the switch, I am
running out of debugging ideas.
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i just bought a d #11288 and this service is great..can i have a one-liner of 
what the lockzilla and the tankzilla are and how i can check and see if i 
have them..also officer rick what dept are you out of..thanks for your help.
mike leising 
sugarland, tx
vin 11288
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I wanted to see if there was any interest in a Long Island Delorean
association and I have to say the results to date are disappointing to
say the least. This would consist of a few get together a year nothing
to extreme here. To date I've only heard from a few of you. Could it be
true that Long Island the home of PJ Gradys doesn't have any Delorean
enthusiasts? I would still like to hear from any Long Island Delorean
owners interested in a local association (I would even like to here
from Long Island owners not interested in being part of such an
organization just to know how many are out there).
Please e-mail me at mdeluca(AT)comtechpst.com
 
Mike D.
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On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 hobiedmc(AT)hotmail.com wrote:
> The original tires for the DMC are Goodyear NCT 195/60HR14 (front) and
> Goodyear Eagle GT 245/60R15.  I've been unsuccessful in trying to find
> exact replacements of the originals.  
This is not correct.  The original tires are all NCTs, 195/60HR14 front
and 235/60HR15 rear.  The best replacement tire is the Yokohama AVS
Intermediate, which is the only reasonable street/performance tire
available in both sizes, to my knowledge.
It is easy to find tires in either size.  The trick is finding the *same
model* tire in both sizes.  If you have different kinds of tire (or, in
some cases, even the same model tire from different production runs) on
front and back, your handling can be affected (usually adversely).  How
much it is affected depends on which specific tires you're using and how
hard you drive the car.  Some people actually like to do it this way - put
snow-oriented all season tires on the rear and rain oriented tires on the
front, for maximum traction in adverse weather.  I've never heard of this
on a DeLorean.
> for the rear that has the same speed rating.  Is having a different
> speed rating (front and rear) a problem?  Should I go with a different
Not in and of itself, no.

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	Recently I went to look at another delorean for sale.  This delorean was
not a "show car" there were a few dings on the body, and the interior was
wretched looking.  It does however have a new engine clutch and brakes.  I
test drove it, and when I first got in the brake felt more like a clutch
than the clutch.  When I pressed on the brake, there was no resistence and
the car was not slowing until the brake was practically to the floor. (like
a clutch)  Once the brake was close to the floor, it compressed like a
normal brake.  I was just curious IF any other people had this problem, and
how they fixed it. My automatic does not do this, so I assume this is not
normal for a delorean. 
Thanks
Joe P.
VIN 6808  
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Teri wrote:
>The original tires for the DMC are Goodyear NCT 195/60HR14 (front) and
Goodyear Eagle GT 245/60R15.  I've been unsuccessful in trying to find
exact replacements of the originals.
<
Terri - the original tires were Goodyear NCT's all around.  It is
normally not a good idea to mix tire manufacturers or tire
types front to rear or side to side due to compromised
handling characteristics.  A very acceptable replacement
for the original NCTs are Yokohama AVS Intermeditates.
They are available in the correct sizes from Tire Rack for
well under $100 per wheel.
Mike Griese
Storage Software Development Manager
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Bob - This is a common problem with DeLoreans.  Those
pegs are actually switches.  The switch is spring loaded to
be normally closed when the peg is not pressed.  Pressing
the peg opens the circuit.  There are wires attached to the
switches under the dashboard.  Normally, the lights not working
are due to the wires falling off the switch.  The switches
are supposed to have a rubber cap that extends the switch
to ensure it contacts the door panel.  You can't really tell
if the switch is working while you are closing the door because
the switch is not activated until the door is almost completely
closed.
The second switch on the driver's side is for the ignition key
reminder buzzer.
Michael A. Griese
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In a message dated 9/23/99 10:01:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, BKing(AT)maxis.com 
writes:
<< However, the driver's door lights still do not work.  >>
Bob,
  I don't have an answer for you but I have a better question for ya....My 
drivers side door lights only go on when the door is at its lowest part of 
being open (right before it is pushed to be closed)  It has been like this 
for as long as I owned it.  I just never understood that,  I mean the power 
is getting to the lights but as soon as the door opens anymore the lights 
quickly go out.  Would anyone have any answers?
Later,
Nick
VIN# 1852
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You're correct on the front tires, but the original rear tires were also
NCT's in a 235/60-15, not the Eagle GT's in a 245 as you stated. I know,
I've got the original tires in storage. Plus the owner's manual gives the
sizes.
If at all possible, stick with the same brand AND model of tire for the
front and the back. Mixing tire models could in some cases cause handling
problems. There are a few different models of tires that fit the D that
come in the original 195/60-14 and 235/60-15. Speed ratings of H, V, or Z
or OK, plus a couple of other ones that I don't recall. The speed rating
isn't really all that important unless you plan to drive at very high
SUSTAINED speeds. V and Z are both rated faster (better) than H.
One of the best currently being produced is the Yokohama AVS Intermediate.
You can get these from the Tire Rack (http://www.tirerack.com/) for about
$350 for the set of 4 delivered to your door. They'll recommend a local
tire shop to mount and balance if you ask them. I've got a set of the AVS
tires and can highly recommend them. Smoother ride than the NCTs and better
handling IMHO. Of course I am comparing them to 18 year old tires :)  I'll
also highly recommend the Tire Rack. I've been buying tires from them for
about 3 years and have never had any problems. Most of the time I have the
tires within 2 days of ordering.
Mark N
VIN 6820
PS--I'll sell my NCT's to you if you're really interested. 3 of the 4 are
in near perfect condition with 6/32 of tread or more, and the 4th is nearly
as good, but shows some wear in the center of the tread. No cracking or
checking of the rubber.
At 09:59 PM 9/22/99 -0700, you wrote:
>The original tires for the DMC are Goodyear NCT 195/60HR14 (front) and
>Goodyear Eagle GT 245/60R15.  I've been unsuccessful in trying to find
>exact replacements of the originals.  
>
>I've been able to locate another brand of tires for the front that are
>H rated.  However, it's been a challenge to locate replacement tires
>for the rear that has the same speed rating.  Is having a different
>speed rating (front and rear) a problem?  Should I go with a different
>size tires to have match up the speed rating on the tires?  What would
>you guys recommend as replacements tires?  I would prefer to get the
>originals if that was possible.
>
>Terri 
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DMC Joe already covered most of this, but one thing I'll mention is that a
lot of DeLoreans came with small pieces of rubber hose pushed onto the end
of the switch to allow the switch to operate even if the door wasn't
aligned quite right. As an alternative for (or addition to) your piece of
hard rubber, you may want to look at adding a piece of hose on to these.
Use something fairly flexible like vacuum hose.
Driver's side: two switches. One for the lights, the other for the key
buzzer. Passenger side: One switch for the lights.
Mark N
VIN 6820
At 11:05 PM 9/22/99 -0700, you wrote:
<snip>
>Both of these problems were fixed.  It appears that the little 'push peg'
>(for lack of a better term) on the dash/console near the hinge of the
>drivers door never touched the activating plate located on the door that it
>is supposed to touch. 
<snip>
  Something I did notice during all of this is that there
>are supposed to be 2 of those 'push pegs' at the driver's door hinge, an
>upper and a lower.  I am missing the lower one.  What function does this
>lower peg serve?
>
>Bob
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Hello all!
I was surfing the Net and came across the site for DeLorean Switzerland. At 
the marketplace called "Service" there is a very interesting ad for all 
DeLorean owners. The company is German and CAN PRODUCE EXACTLY THE SAME 
STAINLESS STEEL BODY PARTS!
And for us Europeans, the company has a very interesting fix for our 
rectangular license plate in the rear...See for yourself!
Check out the site at: www.delorean.ch
Here's the intro:
"Working together with several companies we are now
able to offer you a really unique variety of products
and services concerning the DeLorean car.
As our company´s name tells you:
We are into steel products.
But we´re not talking about
ordinary steel or even
sheet metal:
Our business is STAINLESS STEEL !!!
The original DeLorean material. Highest quality SS 304


We offer:
complete production/reconstruction of all DeLorean
steel parts (even fenders)
exclusive single-part production and remodelling (everything is possible)
repair service and planishing of stainless steel parts
complete regrinding or refreshing of ground parts
special cleaning and sealing of stainless steel surfaces
long lasting varnishing of stainless steel (with guaranty)
baking varnishing and powder varnishing of stainless steel parts (absolutely 
heat-resistent)
laser cut of any copy/copy providing
series production of DeLorean parts
Design & Art items round the DeLorean
various DeLorean accessories
24 carat gold plating of stainless steel parts
This is the address I found:
DeLorean Steel Products
Sensensteinweg 2 , D-34253 Lohfelden
Germany
fon: 0049 (0)561-51 90 410
fax: 0049 (0)561-51 90 420
e-Mail: De-Lorean-Steel-Products(AT)gmx.net
Sincerely;
Mr. Stian Birkeland
NORWAY

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Greg  
Just a  question  why wouldn't you use a helicoil before drilling out the  
bolt hole and  drill/tapping a  larger hole?
Mike
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Scott,
     As far as I know, there is not a NC Delorean club.  However, being a NC 
D owner, I would like to see this happen.  On July 10th of this year was a 
casual meeting of Deloreans in Clemmons, NC where 4 NC cars and 1 Virginia 
car attended.  It would be nice to locate more NC Ds and see if we could 
arrange something in the future again.....with more cars of course.  I 
personally would be happy to meet with you and your D.  So NC D owners, let 
yourself be known!
Additionally, I am looking forward to meeting all of the D owners who will be 
attending the Cruise-In event.  See you all soon.
Darren Decker
Vin 5000
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HI!  I have heard previous posts in the past about the left front fenders
but
didn't ever give them much thought.  Eariier today though, I was reading
my
Gold Portfolio book and I came across where it mentioned the gentleman's 
name who bought all of the rest of the leftover stock at the warehouse in
Colombus (about 400 more DeLoreans) except left front fenders.  Why not
the fenders?  Did they become lost?  Did he just not want the l. f.
fenders?  
Please help me clear up my confusion.
Thanks,
Robert
VIN-SOON!!!
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   o Deloreans and a Bricklin
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greetings..
my d has bf goodrich comp ta's on it..
they seem to work fine.. 
mike cutting
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I guess no one is expected to just have 1 DeLorean?!
cbl302(AT)msn.com wrote:
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> Parts cars not included,Project cars are included
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> 
>    o 1 and a Project
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I have the same problem with my '83.  Although I haven't been able to get it 
up to any decent spees as of yet, because of my warm up regulator not 
functioning, I did get to drive it down my driveway, and the brakes didn't 
seem to be friendly with me either.  I don't know what caused this, but after 
the regulator is done with, I plan on pulling the brakes off and giving them 
a good check.
Scott
#16738
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I wrote this to a good friend, Dan, who arranged our meeting with JZD
the day before my birthday on June 13, 1999.  Dan's quite a guy!
I thought it would make an interesting post.
_______________________________________________
Dan,
I'm engaged!  Yes!  I'm very, very happy.  She didn't rip my heart out,
but she does have it!  She stole it!
I know it's only been 6 weeks, but when its right, it's right!
We're getting married this New Year's Eve on Block Island.
Now that I'm not really interested in any other women, they seem to be
crawling out of the woodwork!
HEY!  I've found out how to turn  the D into a babe magnet!  It's really
quite simple.
You need a Bob.  Bob is my new dog.  He's a sheepdog, you know, a big
dog with white hair covering his eyes, gray on the back side.  I took
him out in the D for the first time last night and he likes it in the
back between the seats with his big head sticking just forward of the
passenger seat.  Bob likes it so much I left him in the D last night.
He likes cars, I think the D will be his permanent home.  He is so much
fun.  He never disobeys,  never made a mess, (well he does shed, but
only the tiniest amount) he obeys every command I give him, and he eats
almost nothing, well that's not quite accurate, he doesn't eat anything.
Have you gotten the idea yet?
Bob's an inanimate object.  But I always pat him on the head and tell
him to guard the D when I leave him in it.  Most people think he's a
real dog when the see him!  Bob's so much fun!  He's just right for the
D!
Bob cost $ 40 at COSTCO.  I gave his identical twin, named Bob, to my
fiancé a few weeks ago.  Before she was my fiancé!  I think Bob had
something to do with the way things turned out.  Today we pick out,  and
buy if it's just right, an engagement ring, and look for a condo at
Breakwater Key in Stratford CT, where I keep my boat, "Webe Jammin'".
I'm a very lucky and happy fellow.
___________________________________________________
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If you buy a Bob dog, name him Bob.  Or, give him (or her) your name.
And email me with the name and where you're located, I'd like to keep
track of  Bob's
brothers.   I'm pretty sure Bob will bring you good luck!
All the Best!
Bob  VIN 10961
PS: If you can't find Bob, I be happy to buy a Brother and send Bob to
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I wrote this to a good friend, Dan, who arranged our meeting with JZD the
day before my birthday on June 13, 1999.&nbsp; Dan's quite a guy!
<p>I thought it would make an interesting post.
<br>_______________________________________________
<p>Dan,
<p>I'm engaged!&nbsp; Yes!&nbsp; I'm very, very happy.&nbsp; She didn't
rip my heart out,
<br>but she does have it!&nbsp; She stole it!
<p>I know it's only been 6 weeks, but when its right, it's right!
<p>We're getting married this New Year's Eve on Block Island.
<p>Now that I'm not really interested in any other women, they seem to
be
<br>crawling out of the woodwork!
<p><b>HEY!</b>&nbsp;<b> I've found out how to turn&nbsp; the D into a babe
magnet!&nbsp; It's really</b>
<br><b>quite simple.</b>
<p>You need a Bob.&nbsp; Bob is my new dog.&nbsp; He's a sheepdog, you
know, a big
<br>dog with white hair covering his eyes, gray on the back side.&nbsp;
I took
<br>him out in the D for the first time last night and he likes it in the
<br>back between the seats with his big head sticking just forward of the
<br>passenger seat.&nbsp; Bob likes it so much I left him in the D last
night.
<br>He likes cars, I think the D will be his permanent home.&nbsp; He is
so much
<br>fun.&nbsp; He never disobeys,&nbsp; never made a mess, (well he does
shed, but
<br>only the tiniest amount) he obeys every command I give him, and he
eats
<br>almost nothing, well that's not quite accurate, he doesn't eat anything.
<p>Have you gotten the idea yet?
<p>Bob's an inanimate object.&nbsp; But I always pat him on the head and
tell
<br>him to guard the D when I leave him in it.&nbsp; Most people think
he's a
<br>real dog when the see him!&nbsp; Bob's so much fun!&nbsp; He's just
right for the
<br>D!
<p>Bob cost $ 40 at COSTCO.&nbsp; I gave his identical twin, named Bob,
to my
<br>fianc&eacute; a few weeks ago.&nbsp; Before she was my fianc&eacute;!&nbsp;
I think Bob had
<br>something to do with the way things turned out.&nbsp; Today we pick
out,&nbsp; and
<br>buy if it's just right, an engagement ring, and look for a condo at
<br>Breakwater Key in Stratford CT, where I keep my boat, "Webe Jammin'".
<p>I'm a very lucky and happy fellow.
<br>___________________________________________________
<p>For the DML:
<p>If you buy a Bob dog, name him Bob.&nbsp; Or, give him (or her) your
name.
<p>And email me with the name and where you're located, I'd like to keep
track of&nbsp; Bob's
<br>brothers.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm pretty sure Bob will bring you good luck!
<p>All the Best!
<p>Bob&nbsp; VIN 10961
<p>PS: If you can't find Bob, I be happy to buy a Brother and send Bob
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I know this may sound like a really dumb question, but this being not only my 
first DeLorean, but the first one I've ever been truly close to, I have this 
question to offer up; is that the real horn?  It sounds like the love child 
of the road runner and the three tenors.  Is it supposed to be that weak, or 
is it possible that the low end is not functioning?
    Also, while I'm asking dumb questions, here's another.  How do you get 
into the speaker housings in the front? My dash speaker is blown and needs 
replaced, but I'm not sure how to get into it, and don't want to risk tearing 
it up.  Thanks!
Scott
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ok, this may seem morbid, but does anybody have any pictures of
Deloreans that are totaled?  Ones that were in bad accidents and such. 
I've seen a delorean chared to death, but have never seen one totaled. 
And if you have any information on how it happend and where it is now,
that would be great.  Thanks for your help!
Erik Geerdink
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<SNIP>
>wretched looking.  It does however have a new engine clutch and brakes.  I
Had the brakes been "pumped up" after the new parts were installed?  When
new pads are installed, the calipers must be forced backwards in order to
fit nice fat new pads around the rotor.  This action will force brake fluid
back into the reservoir at the master cyl. (and sometimes, out on to the
floor)  Now assuming that the brake job went smoothly (i.e. didn't have to
replace a caliper, no brake lines broke) and some replacement brake fluid
was added to the reservoir, maybe the new parts need to be seated by
pumping the brake a few times.  Check fluid level first and check for fluid
on the floor at each tire (leaks).
Todd "Project Car 4 Sure" B.
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has anybody ever redone there seats?  put all noguhide on them or
leather?  my seats has seen better days and my dad and I are going to
get a pro to do it this spring, but i was just wondering how much it
cost.  also, what would it cost to get the front dash redone?  mine has
a couple cracks that need to be gone.  thanks for the help
Erik Geerdink
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On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Robert Greenhaw wrote:
> name who bought all of the rest of the leftover stock at the warehouse
> in Colombus (about 400 more DeLoreans) except left front fenders.  
> Why not the fenders?  Did they become lost?  Did he just not want the
Due to an error when the company was still in business (Grand Delusions
says it was a clerical error) there were not very many spare LF fenders
produced.  There are plenty of spare parts, including body panels, for the
rest of the car, except for that.

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I have checked with Coker twice and they deny having any reference for this tire.
-C
3876
GIGAWAT
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I was told by a DMC owner (AT) the Auburn, IN auction that the NCT's are 
available from Coker(sp?) in Nashville, TN. He obtained his from them not 
all that long ago.   Any further info. on this?      Robert  VIN 6924
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>Hi List,
>
>   The original tires on the DeLorean were Goodyear NCTs. If memory
>serves, Goodyear stopped making that tire. Why exactly is this? About
>what year did they discontinue making them? Were the tires on the BTTF
>DeLorean NCTs? Thanks.
>
>Ryan Arsenault
>
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Sounds like the Northern Ireland government may have secretly saved the
molds and sold them.
This is very interesting.  Almost too good to be true.

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Scott,
There are two horns on the DeLorean.  First, make sure they
are both working.  Then marvel at how little sound they
produce.
The front speakers are accessed from under the dash.  It is
easier if you remove the seat (it is only 4 nuts per seat,
from the bottom of the car.)  The rears speakers are MUCH
more complicated to get to.
Hank Breer
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At 12:50 PM 9/24/99 -0400, you wrote:
>On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Robert Greenhaw wrote:
>
>> name who bought all of the rest of the leftover stock at the warehouse
>> in Colombus (about 400 more DeLoreans) except left front fenders.  
>> Why not the fenders?  Did they become lost?  Did he just not want the
>
>Due to an error when the company was still in business (Grand Delusions
>says it was a clerical error) there were not very many spare LF fenders
>produced.  There are plenty of spare parts, including body panels, for the
>rest of the car, except for that.
>
>
Sorry to say this but the above is just not true today.....Houston has
plenty of these LHF fenders although the price is still very high.
Lee
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> HI!  I have heard previous posts in the past about the left front fenders
> but
I attended one of the Kapac open houses about three years ago and Marvin
Kantz, the fellow that bought the remaining DeLorean parts in Ireland and
shipped them to Columbus, was there. James Espy and I walked with him
through some of the isles of parts and as we walked he related some of the
story about his obtaining those parts. All of the parts were crated and the
boxes were marked as to their contents. There were two crates, one marked
right front fenders and one marked left. The time involved in shipping the
crates to Columbus and getting them unpacked was lengthy. When they finaly
got to the crates with the front fenders, the left fender crate had been
mis-marked. He had two crates of right front fenders. He led us to belive
that he had left some parts behind. I seem to remember reading that he
brought enough to build 1,000 DeLoreans. Anyway, he said his people went
back to Belfast to find the left fenders but anything left behind had been
bulldozed into the dirt and destroyed. Some of his recollections conflicted
with what I'd heard John DeLorean say in talk show interviews but I have no
reason to doubt that this story is true.
Bruce Benson


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No Steve you are wrong, the had no moulds...
I called Dirk Wacker (the guy behind DeLorean Steel Products) two days ago asking for the
fender reproduktion. He told me they build the fenders from one sheet metal by hand without a
mould. But he told me also that they had not done one single piece at this time. Actually they
only removed dents from a rear quarter panel and produced some key- and plateholders.
I told him I want to write an article for "stainless" (german D´ mag) about the reconstruction
of an right front fender. I had got a "testpiece" from an friend of mine having an accident
some weeks ago. He told me that they are willing to do this, but he can not guarantee for a
perfect result.
Now he is on vacation the next four weeks, but right behind I will made the test and let you
guys know the result...
SteveDMC schrieb:
> Sounds like the Northern Ireland government may have secretly saved the
> molds and sold them.
>
> This is very interesting.  Almost too good to be true.
>
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That's right. Porsche meets DeLorean! Well, in my car it does at least. I j=
ust put in a set of Porsche Boxster seats. They're power and heated. My int=
erior is grey, but the seats are black and they look fantastic. The only dr=
awback so far, is that I'm now sitting up a little bit higher than before. =
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Just a quick key note or two.
My DMC keys should generally be available at your DMC dealer...their cost
will be slightly higher than my direct price but you don't have to wait for
ever...:-)
I will soon have both the single and double DMC key systems.......more when
the door key is ready...:-)
I am currently working on the DMC key with a light in it. This "NEW" DMC is
indistinguishable from the original, but will have a soft Brass key (less
wear and tear on the locks) and a long lasting battery and LED instead of
incandescent lamp. This extends the battery life and reduces the chances of
water damage to the key interiors.
If you have always wanted one of these puppies - they will be available in
time for Christmas.
Lee
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Sounds like the Northern Ireland government may have secretly saved the
molds and sold them.
This is very interesting.  Almost too good to be true.<
The Northern Ireland Government was the same as the British Government i
think the moulds went the way of Shergar gone never to be seen again.
John Hanley =
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Where and when is the cruise-in?
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>Scott,
>     As far as I know, there is not a NC Delorean club.  However, being a
NC
>D owner, I would like to see this happen.  On July 10th of this year was a
>casual meeting of Deloreans in Clemmons, NC where 4 NC cars and 1 Virginia
>car attended.  It would be nice to locate more NC Ds and see if we could
>arrange something in the future again.....with more cars of course.  I
>personally would be happy to meet with you and your D.  So NC D owners, let
>yourself be known!
>
>Additionally, I am looking forward to meeting all of the D owners who will
be
>attending the Cruise-In event.  See you all soon.
>
>Darren Decker
>Vin 5000
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You can get to the Front speakers from underneath the dash, its a little 
awkward though
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From: "mike(AT)mrcopies.com" <mrcopies(AT)jet2.net>
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Here's a question I've never seen addressed.
In Stainless Steel Illusion - John Lamm mentions that a company called Milf=
ord Fabricating stamped out the first prototype's stainless panels based on=
 the pine-die model carved out by Bill Collin's design team.
What ever happened to the prototype dies? =
mike(AT)mrcopies.com
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Here's a question I've never seen =
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>In Stainless Steel Illusion - John Lamm=
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>What ever happened to the prototype die=
s? =
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href=3D"mailto:mike(AT)mrcopies.com">mike(AT)mrcopies.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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he rober my birth day is also on june 13th i got my
delorean on my 16th birth day this year
pretty cool
efren 16072
--- Robert Hlavacek <rahlavacek(AT)snet.net> wrote:
> I wrote this to a good friend, Dan, who arranged our
> meeting with JZD
> the day before my birthday on June 13, 1999.  Dan's
> quite a guy!
> 
> I thought it would make an interesting post.
> _______________________________________________
> 
> Dan,
> 
> I'm engaged!  Yes!  I'm very, very happy.  She
> didn't rip my heart out,
> but she does have it!  She stole it!
> 
> I know it's only been 6 weeks, but when its right,
> it's right!
> 
> We're getting married this New Year's Eve on Block
> Island.
> 
> Now that I'm not really interested in any other
> women, they seem to be
> crawling out of the woodwork!
> 
> HEY!  I've found out how to turn  the D into a babe
> magnet!  It's really
> 
> quite simple.
> 
> You need a Bob.  Bob is my new dog.  He's a
> sheepdog, you know, a big
> dog with white hair covering his eyes, gray on the
> back side.  I took
> him out in the D for the first time last night and
> he likes it in the
> back between the seats with his big head sticking
> just forward of the
> passenger seat.  Bob likes it so much I left him in
> the D last night.
> He likes cars, I think the D will be his permanent
> home.  He is so much
> fun.  He never disobeys,  never made a mess, (well
> he does shed, but
> only the tiniest amount) he obeys every command I
> give him, and he eats
> almost nothing, well that's not quite accurate, he
> doesn't eat anything.
> 
> Have you gotten the idea yet?
> 
> Bob's an inanimate object.  But I always pat him on
> the head and tell
> him to guard the D when I leave him in it.  Most
> people think he's a
> real dog when the see him!  Bob's so much fun!  He's
> just right for the
> D!
> 
> Bob cost $ 40 at COSTCO.  I gave his identical twin,
> named Bob, to my
> fiancé a few weeks ago.  Before she was my fiancé! 
> I think Bob had
> something to do with the way things turned out. 
> Today we pick out,  and
> 
> buy if it's just right, an engagement ring, and look
> for a condo at
> Breakwater Key in Stratford CT, where I keep my
> boat, "Webe Jammin'".
> 
> I'm a very lucky and happy fellow.
> ___________________________________________________
> 
> For the DML:
> 
> If you buy a Bob dog, name him Bob.  Or, give him
> (or her) your name.
> 
> And email me with the name and where you're located,
> I'd like to keep
> track of  Bob's
> brothers.   I'm pretty sure Bob will bring you good
> luck!
> 
> All the Best!
> 
> Bob  VIN 10961
> 
> PS: If you can't find Bob, I be happy to buy a
> Brother and send Bob to
> you.
> 
> 
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OK - so both dogs are Bob.  Who the hell do you think you are - George Form=
an??
Maybe I need a COSTCO membership :)

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The list may be somewhat erratic or broken over the weekend - eGroups is
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Due to a techical glitch at eGroups, the mailing list is not working
properly. Any postings sent to it will be immediately rejected by the
server.
This will probably be the case through the weekend. Sorry for the
inconvenience. You will notice a few test messages as I try and get this
sorted out, but I do not expect it to be fixed before Monday.
Thanks for your understanding,
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If you go to the Yahoo Clubs page, and search for "delorean", there are
three different on-line clubs for our D's! I would join, maybe some new
members for the list that don't know about it yet!



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Hi guys and gals,
I'm new to the list.  I've owned an early 1981 (VIN 2109) since it was 
produced.  Although I love the car, I've not been an active enthusiast.  So, 
I need some advice -- here's the problem.
For the past year I've had an intermittent problem; the car just stalls for 
no apparent reason.  Typically, it will restart only after waiting for 
anywhere from 5 minutes to a couple of hours.  I've had the car at my trusted 
local mechanic for two months now without success in fixing the problem.  The 
ignition coil has been replaced.  
Could it be the impulse coil in the distributor shorting out when hot?  Could 
it be the inertia switch failing and shutting off the fuel pump?  Anything 
else?  Any suggestions on how to check it out?
Thanks
Ron
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In my collection over the past few years I have added some items that I
don't know the history of. 
One item is a nice pair of sunglasses with " DMC " in the corner.
The other is a nice plastic cup with a delorean on it.
Could some one e-mail me if they know if these are orginal items or where
form. (so we don't clog the list with talk that the rest of the group is
not interested in.) 
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On the  site  DeLorean.com they have updated to a "Press only" section where 
members of the press can enter their e-mail address to receive information 
about the DMC2.  Does anyone know what this is all about?  The picture of the 
watch also says "DMC2 watch for DMC2 reservation holders."   This sit 
ebecomes more and more confusing.
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Here a link to a article about the doa coming to St.Louis.
http://www.angelfire.com/id/seigeler/images/article.JPG
thanks & I'm  looking forward to meeting some of you in St.Louis.
Jay





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This is what we do know for sure:
1) The site www.delorean.com is owned by John Z. himself
2) We also know that Kathryn DeLorean is helping her father with raising 
more funds for his new car project. Although rumors of a new D has been 
around for some time, the D2-site looks to be more than just a rumour.
3) What has a limited-edition DMC-watch (or D2-watch) have to do with the 
new DeLorean?
I would GUESS that this is just one way of financing yet another step of the 
DeLorean car project. When the watch is ready to be ordered and the limited 
quantities have been produced, I think the prize for those watches will be 
very expensive. If the watches turn out to be cheap, then there won't be 
much money of it.
Sincerely;
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY
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>On the  site  DeLorean.com they have updated to a "Press only" section 
>where
>members of the press can enter their e-mail address to receive information
>about the DMC2.  Does anyone know what this is all about?  The picture of 
>the
>watch also says "DMC2 watch for DMC2 reservation holders."   This sit
>ebecomes more and more confusing.
>
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Man - that was a QUIET weekend. I got a couple of comments form list-members
regarding withdrawal symptoms. . . . .  Thanks to our tech support guy at
eGroups, we finally  figured out where the problem was. Kind of self-
imposed, I'm afraid.
Here's what happened - right after switching moderators, suddenly messages
started going through unmoderated. The only workaround for this was to
disable the list. (You don't want to see absolutely everything, trust me on
this). I corresponded with the help desk at eGroups, and after a day or so
of head scratching (and test messages) determined that the switched-to
moderator had an out-of-the office message generator going. This was
interpreted by the eGroups server as an OK to post.
Anyway, it's fixed now, so hopefully the list is back to normal. I apologize
for any confusion this may have caused. You learn something new everyday, I
guess.
Dave

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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 17:49:11 -0600 (MDT)
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>it was suggested to me, by a fellow delorean enthusiast that windex would
>remove fingerprints, quite nicely...
>
>will this harm my vehicle?
>
>:)
>mike cutting
>11434
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Mike
I've been out of town for a few days and am just catching up on the 156
emails in my in-basket.
I have owned a DeLorean for 17 years.  I use Windex on it all the time.  In
fact, often, after I wash and dry the car, I then go over the entire car
with windex.
Windex obviously does nothing for the black trim pieces, but I assume you
know that.
Dick Ryan VIN 16867


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If you haven't already been contacted by James Espey, I suggest you contact
him.  I believe that he has xerox copies of the ASI manual.  If I remember
correctly, he was selling them for $5.
Contact him at <james(AT)usadmc.com>.  Tell him I referred you.
Dick Ryan
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From: "SweatyEddy" <swetyedy(AT)cwnet.com>
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Re: Check out the site at: www.delorean.ch
This is a very interesting sight. Imagine my surprise when I saw a picture
of my car, that I took in the driveway of my house in California, in an
advertisement for painting Deloreans in Switzerland. I hope that this
company is not trying to give the impression that they painted that car
(it's the black one). I'm not sure how they got the picture, I have e-mailed
them inquiring. Although the car looks awfully pretty in the picture that
 was five years ago and the paint has since faded and peeled so I stripped
it off (except for the facias).
-SweatyEddy

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Something is definatly up with that company.  When i went to their website I 
saw those pics and I could have sworn i had seen the pic of that yellow D some 
place before.  I think this could be some type of scam they might be trying to 
run on
us.

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Fuel problem no more!  One of the DMLer's, Chris Coplen, came over to
my hosue to help me out with my fuel problem....VERY SIMPLE!  It was
just a fuel hose that cracked on the inside near the end.  all we did
was cut the hose shorter and reattached it.  works great!  I also
changed the air intake hoses, and painted the top black trim on the
windshield...my car is really looking a lot better.  all i need now is
the seats redone and I'm set...for not.  I got a question though...how
do people store their cars for the winter?  should it be in a heated
garage with carpet or doesnt it matter.  I heard that cement sweats
during the winter and that water will get in my frame...I don't want
that to happen. if anybody knows of a good place to store a car, or
even has one extra stall in their garage that they would rent out for a
nice price, let me know.  thanks to all who posted regarding my fuel
problem.  4512 is back on the road...better than before.
Erik Geerdink
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Yesterday I went to start my D but soon discovered that the cheapo Costco battery had died. I jump started the car with the trusty 80 Buick and cruised on down to the local Monkey Wards for a new Interstate battery. The guys behind the counter couldn't find a listing for an 81 DeLorean so one of them suggested that they look under AMC! Need I say more? I got the new battery in and all is well. Today I entered the car in a local car show sponsored by the Camaro Club of San Diego but won nothing. The award for the best foreign car went to a shiny Pantera. There was also a guy there who looked just like Christopher Lloyd and enjoyed having his photo taken in front of my car. All in all it was a great weekend. My thanks to Wards for a good laugh...Fil Vigil

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Were back from a fabulous SEDOC 1st Bi-Annual Cruise-In Event. I would like
to take this opportunity to personally thank Rob & Debbie (Grady PJ Grady
Inc.) and Stephen Wynne & his staff (DMC Houston) for giving their all to
make this first time event an exciting success. 
We will have all the exciting details at our web-site tomorrow.
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It's probably the distributor impulse coil. If you would like details on
how to troubleshoot this problem feel free to contact us directly.
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> From: RonPti(AT)aol.com
> 
> Hi guys and gals,
> 
> 
> For the past year I've had an intermittent problem; the car just stalls
for 
> no apparent reason.  Typically, it will restart only after waiting for 
> anywhere from 5 minutes to a couple of hours.  I've had the car at my
trusted 
> local mechanic for two months now without success in fixing the problem. 
The 
> ignition coil has been replaced.  
> 
> Could it be the impulse coil in the distributor shorting out when hot? 
Could 
> it be the inertia switch failing and shutting off the fuel pump? 
Anything 
> else?  Any suggestions on how to check it out?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ron

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Hello group,
     This seems odd,  One of my head lights does not turn on anymore.  I 
thought that it might have blown out, but when I turn on the the high 
beams it turns on????   Any suggestions on what it could be.
Thanks 
Felix
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.how
>do people store their cars for the winter?  should it be in a heated
>garage with carpet or doesnt it matter.  I heard that cement sweats
>during the winter and that water will get in my frame..
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This is one of those "how much do you want to do?" questions.  If your
garage is heated and climate controlled - wonderful.  However, the number
of DeLoreans stored in such an environment are very few.  So, let's get
realistic.
FUEL: The single most important thing to worry about if your car is to be
stored for the winter is to take care of the fuel system.  Fill the tank
just before you put up the car for the winter and be sure to add some fuel
stabilizer according to the directions on the product.  In addtion, I
suggest you run the car for 10 to 20 minutes once per month during the
winter.  Run it long enough to have the fans come on at least once.
TIRES:  Avoid those flat spots by having the car up on jack stands.  If you
don't do this, at least make some movement of the tires periodically (like
when you run the car once a month) so that there is a different point of
contact between the tires and the concrete.
MOISTURE:  If that is a real problem in your area, a piece of old carpet
might not be a bad idea.  Also, get some moisture aborber at your local
Home Depot or the like and use according to directions.
BATTERY:  Either have a battery tender type of device or disconnect the
battery during long periods of storage.
CRITTERS:  Often a problem.  D-Con or some other form of critter control is
a very good measure.
Of course, if you really have some money to spend, you might look into the
Carcoon sold by DMC Houston.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
PS  Oh, one more thing,  make sure you go into the garage and pet your DMC
and talk to it every so often to let it know you still care!


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Eric asked:
> how do people store their cars for the winter?
You live in the Great Lakes region, don't you?  I keep mine in an ordinary garage in
Cleveland.  Generally, winter air is very dry around here.  Even if the cement does sweat very
little water can get airborn.
> if anybody knows of a good place to store a car, or even has one extra stall in their garage
> that they would rent out for a nice price, let me know.
If you aren't too far from northern Indiana you should check out the National Automobile and
Truck Museum of the United States (NATMUS).  Last time I checked they offered a pretty good
deal on heated, indoor storage where the public will admire your car all winter long.
- Mike Substelny

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Eric,
Can you tell me about your fuel problem? I'm having engine trouble myself
and even the Volvo dealer cannot come up with a solution... The fact is that
my engine gradually loses power and RPM after 10 minutes of driving.
Cya,
PS. Your name sounds kinda Dutch - any connections?
Rob van der Veer
VIN 3695
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Subject: [DML] Re: Driver's door does not latch
This may not help but I'll tell it anyway.  My passenger side door
would clunk when ever you opened it and closed it, like it was miss
aligned.  I looked at the door guides and saw that the plastic by the
door lock on the door broke and the metal pin that latches the door
down was catching in the hole where the plastic was.  i took the door
guide off and it wouldnt clunk anymore, so i just filed down the door
guide a bit and now it works perfectly!  the door never sounded so
good.  now if i could only drive the car before winter!! (damn fuel
problem!)
Erik Geerdink
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Stian Birkeland wrote:
> 
> This is what we do know for sure:
> 
> 1) The site www.delorean.com is owned by John Z. himself
>
Last I checked, www.delorean.com is owned by Mr. James Espey, who has
said that Mr. DeLorean has assumed responsibility for it but James still
owns the domain name delorean.com
www.dmc2.com is listed as being owned by Mr. John Z DeLorean. 
www.dmc2.com now points to www.delorean.com
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I have been searching all the DeLorean websites, but haven't still found a 
place where I can download the Craig Radio Manual. The best thing would be 
an Adobe Acrobat/*.pdf-file. But scanned pages would also be great! Can 
someone on the list please help me?
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY
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    Your low filament has burned out.  In most dual headlight systems, the
low beam light has 2 filaments in it: a low and a high.  When you click your
highbeams on, it turns on the high filament.  Replace at least that
headlight.  I recommend changing both low beams, however, so they will
produce the same amount of light.
Jake
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> Hello group,
>
>      This seems odd,  One of my head lights does not turn on anymore.  I
> thought that it might have blown out, but when I turn on the the high
> beams it turns on????   Any suggestions on what it could be.
>
> Thanks
>
> Felix
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I have a buzzing noise when ever i drive over 45mph or so.  but it only
happens when I am accelorating.  the buzzing is in the front
left/middle.  not in the car, but somewhere around the trunk.  anybody
know what this is?  the lower speed I go (around 45) the higher the
pitch.  the faster i go (around 70) the lower the pitch.  thanks for
the help
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I just put a new warm up regulator on my 83, and now it won't fire.  It will 
turn over repeatedly, but no fire.  Any body got any ideas?  Is there 
something I'm forgetting to do??
       Scott
       16738
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>     This seems odd,  One of my head lights does not turn on anymore.  
I 
>thought that it might have blown out, but when I turn on the the high 
>beams it turns on????   Any suggestions on what it could be.
I have a Chevy Nova, also with the 4 headlights, 2 come on in low beam 
mode, and all four come on in high beam mode.  When one doesn't work in 
low beam mode, but works in high-beam mode that means (usually) that 
the low beam filament has burned out and the headlight needs to be 
replaced.  If that is the case, it has been recommended that you 
replace both of the hi/low beam lights.
Sincerely,
Josh Seely
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Stian,
try going to the website www.delorean.ch/.  It is in German but you probably speak German
anyway.  go tothe section called Dateien.  There you will find a zip file on the Craig radio.
(schematics, etc.).  I have not downloaded the zip file but it probably will have what you
need.
Bill Lane
Vin 3635 in North Carolina
Stian Birkeland wrote:
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> place where I can download the Craig Radio Manual. The best thing would be
> an Adobe Acrobat/*.pdf-file. But scanned pages would also be great! Can
> someone on the list please help me?
>
> Stian Birkeland
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> I have been searching all the DeLorean websites, but haven't still found a
> place where I can download the Craig Radio Manual.
Stian,
I bought my DeLorean new and have all the papers and information it was
delivered with. There was no Craig radio manual. The directions dealing with
the Craig radio were included in the owners manual. I've put them in the
Vault so you can see them. The 1981 Owners Manual shows the early version of
the radio. Late '81's eliminated the clock in the center console and
incorporated it in the Craig radio's frequency display., I don't think there
was ever anything  printed regarding that.
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If you car has the original horns they are now 18 years old and are
suffering from water damage and age.
The speakers are removed from under the dash, no need to remove any
components.
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> Subject: [DML] Horn
> 
> I know this may sound like a really dumb question, but this being not
only my 
> first DeLorean, but the first one I've ever been truly close to, I have
this 
> question to offer up; is that the real horn?  It sounds like the love
child 
> of the road runner and the three tenors.  Is it supposed to be that weak,
or 
> is it possible that the low end is not functioning?
>     Also, while I'm asking dumb questions, here's another.  How do you
get 
> into the speaker housings in the front? My dash speaker is blown and
needs 
> replaced, but I'm not sure how to get into it, and don't want to risk
tearing 
> it up.  Thanks!
> 
> Scott
> #16738
> 
> www.deloreaproject.com

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You probably have a defective door switch. To isolate this problem jump the
electrical leads connected to the switch. If the lights remain on when the
door is open fully replace the switch.
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> From: NJP548(AT)aol.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: alarm/door lights/interesting occurance
> 
>   I don't have an answer for you but I have a better question for
ya....My 
> drivers side door lights only go on when the door is at its lowest part
of 
> being open (right before it is pushed to be closed)  It has been like
this 
> for as long as I owned it.  I just never understood that,  I mean the
power 
> is getting to the lights but as soon as the door opens anymore the lights
> quickly go out.  Would anyone have any answers?
> 
> Later,
> Nick
> VIN# 1852

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Ok, so here's the update.  I wanted to make sure that all was working as it 
should be concerning this warm up regulator, so I took out a plug and 
grounded it while someone cranked the car, and it sparked, so it's getting 
fire.  I checked the two lines running into the regulator, and they both had 
gas in them, but not a lot.  But there was gas in the ports on the regulator, 
so it had been pumped in.  Is there some form of priming or something I'm 
supposed to do to this thing before I put it on?
 HHHEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPPP!!!!
      Scott
    16738
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First of all, why did you change your warm-up regulator; they rarely go
bad. What was
your original problem ?
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> From: DMC83in99(AT)aol.com
> 
> I just put a new warm up regulator on my 83, and now it won't fire.  It
will 
> turn over repeatedly, but no fire.  Any body got any ideas?  Is there 
> something I'm forgetting to do??
> 
>        Scott
>        16738

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Has anyone heard about this Atari Prototype Delorean
machine being sold on Ebay.  The item number is
170501589.
From what I see, it looks like a silver atari machine
with the Delorean emblem that was used on the 82 and
83 cars hoods.   
Is this for real or what?
Tamir
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our last town trip.  rattling noise began in the engine, noticed that temp =
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Air in the fluid lines will cause this condition. Bleed the entire brake
system and than check its performance.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
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> From: Joe Palatinus <jpalatinus(AT)earthlink.net>
> 
> 	Recently I went to look at another delorean for sale.  This delorean was
> not a "show car" there were a few dings on the body, and the interior was
> wretched looking.  It does however have a new engine clutch and brakes. 
I
> test drove it, and when I first got in the brake felt more like a clutch
> than the clutch.  When I pressed on the brake, there was no resistence
and
> the car was not slowing until the brake was practically to the floor.
(like
> a clutch)  Once the brake was close to the floor, it compressed like a
> normal brake.  I was just curious IF any other people had this problem,
and
> how they fixed it. My automatic does not do this, so I assume this is not
> normal for a delorean. 
> Thanks
> Joe P.
> VIN 6808  

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Wheel bearing !
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> From: delorean502(AT)excite.com
> 
> I have a buzzing noise when ever i drive over 45mph or so.  but it only
> happens when I am accelorating.  the buzzing is in the front
> left/middle.  not in the car, but somewhere around the trunk.  anybody
> know what this is?  the lower speed I go (around 45) the higher the
> pitch.  the faster i go (around 70) the lower the pitch.  thanks for
> the help
> 
> erik Geerdink
> vin 4512
> plates EGGS D

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Hi there-
I was wondering if I could get an opinion on my situation regarding the
clutch in my '81 DMC.
I had my DeLorean for about a week, and I noticed that the gears were
starting to grind a bit.  Before I knew it, 2nd gear wasn't accessible.  I
pulled over and checked the clutch fluid reservoir.  It was bone dry, so I
filled it with Dot 40 clutch fluid.  This worked great... for a week.  Then,
the problems came back with a vengeance.  I couldn't hit 2nd or reverse, and
1st gear was grinding badly.  3rd 4th and 5th were fine, however.
At this point, I noticed a few things.  First, I could hit all gears when
the engine was off, so I figured it probably wasn't the transmission.  (is
this a safe bet?)   And second, the gears seemed to take much less of a
beating (they even worked most of the time) if I repeatedly pumped the
clutch before using it.  Also, I gave my new car a day off, and the clutch
worked really well for the first 20 miles of it's next trip, then the gears
started to grind a bit again, but did not become non-functioning.
I took My DeLorean to a clutch/transmission shop, where they diagnosed bad
clutch hydraulics and figured that the master and slave cylinders would need
replacing.  I had heard that when one goes, the other isn't far behind, so
this seemed to make sense.  Then, I got a call later in the day from the
shop saying that they had found some seepage around the clutch line and that
the problem may be the cable itself, which would be a much cheaper (happier)
fix.  I am waiting to see if the changing the clutch line is the answer.
Does this sound like a master/slave cylinder problem or a clutch cable
problem, or is this a problem that has to be witnessed to diagnose?
Thanks. 
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> I am waiting to see if the changing the clutch line is the answer.
>
> Does this sound like a master/slave cylinder problem or a clutch cable
> problem, or is this a problem that has to be witnessed to diagnose?
This is definitely *not* a clutch cable problem, since DeLoreans don't have clutch cables.
When shifting is affected by temperature, it is often because the polymer hydraulic line has
softened.  Make sure to replace it with the braded steel line.  However, replacing the line is
usually not cheaper than replacing the master and slave cylinders!
There is quite a bit of information about this in the DML Back Issues.
http://www.dmcnews.com/
My mechanic told me that the DOT 4 fluid used by British cars wears out master/slave cylinders
faster than the DOT 3 fluid used in American cars.  It has to do with its chemistry and
tendency to absorb water.  He told me to expect to replace the master/slave cylinders
regularly.
Does anyone know if he is right?
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Here is what to do. As you mechanic recommended change the master & slave
cylinder and also replace the original plastic clutch line with the up
graded stainless steel replacement. All of these parts are available
through PJ Grady and DMC Houston. When ordering tell them that we told you
to call.
If your mechanic needs additional information he may call us directly for
assistance at 770 631-4800.
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> From: King, Bob <BKing(AT)maxis.com>
> 
> 
> I took My DeLorean to a clutch/transmission shop, where they diagnosed
bad
> clutch hydraulics and figured that the master and slave cylinders would
need
> replacing.  I had heard that when one goes, the other isn't far behind,
so
> this seemed to make sense.  Then, I got a call later in the day from the
> shop saying that they had found some seepage around the clutch line and
that
> the problem may be the cable itself, which would be a much cheaper
(happier)
> fix.  I am waiting to see if the changing the clutch line is the answer.
> 
> Does this sound like a master/slave cylinder problem or a clutch cable
> problem, or is this a problem that has to be witnessed to diagnose?
> 
> Thanks. 
> 

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>  ... The 1981 Owners Manual shows the early version of
>  the radio. Late '81's eliminated the clock in the center
>  console and incorporated it in the Craig radio's 
>  frequency display., I don't think there was ever
>  anything  printed regarding that.
Stian, (and Bruce)
The later radio was by Audio Systems Inc. (ASI).  Directions
dealing with both were also printed in DeLorean World,
volume 7, no. 1.
Hank Breer
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So if its the wheel bearing...what do I do to fix it?
"dmc joe" <dmcjo-(AT)att.net> wrote: 
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> Wheel bearing !
> 
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My apologies for using the list ot locate this person, but he is still on
the list, please contact me. I have some interesting information on the
history of your car that I think you would like to know...
James Espey
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On sunday 10/3/99 there will be a car show in
rockland county n.y. in pearl river on central ave
it can be reached in about 20 min from the gwb
go north on the palisades interstate pkwy
to exit 6w   i will be there with my 82 D

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 <<Idler pulley bolts>> I sent this last week but I'm not on the list
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In message #2956 DMC Joe said "CAUTION: Do not over tighten the pulley
mounting bracket bolts, items #4."  Amen, Joe. This is very true. A while
back I was replacing the idler pulley bearing and upon reinstallation over
tightened one of the bolts, stripping the threads (not a good thing). After
calming down, I decided to re-tap the threads to a larger size and after
carefully accomplishing this a larger bolt worked fine. I am now VERY
careful with this and all other fasteners into the aluminum block. I later
fabricated and installed a stainless steel plate as an extention to the
muffler heat shield. It extends to the left (viewed from the rear of the
car) past the lower pulley and protects it somewhat from excess muffler
heat. This has greatly increased the life of that bearing.
BTW, with over 116 thousand miles on VIN# 3507, I have replaced idler pulley
bearings several times. The lower pulley bearing seems to fail more than the
upper one which is why I added the extention to the heat shield. Once while
returning from an overnight outing with several other DMC owners, the lower
bearing froze up and the pulley broke loose, fell down onto the freeway,
bounced up, and hit VIN# 2248's front facia damaging a parking/turn signal
light. I didn't even notice or hear anything and # 2248 asked on the C.B. if
I had hit or run over anything because when it hit him it made a terrible
noise.
Greg Linstad
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Is it possible you may have switched the hoses around???
DMC83in99(AT)aol.com wrote:
> I just put a new warm up regulator on my 83, and now it won't fire.  It will
> turn over repeatedly, but no fire.  Any body got any ideas?  Is there
> something I'm forgetting to do??
>
>        Scott
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Overheating will cause air to be drawn into the coolant lines this causes
an air bubble to collect at the thermostat. The air bleed screw at the
thermostat is there to bleed out the excess air. 
The wiring jumper (bridge) is a after market modification to by-pass the
Fain Fail relay which has a 98% failure rate.
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From: Rodger I. Vannatter <windance(AT)gte.net>
dmcnews <dmcnews(AT)egroups.com>; Would appreciate analysis of my recent
problem to help me pin point correction:; Problem:  Overheating occurred
during our last town trip.  rattling noise began in the engine, noticed
that temp war rising.  Stopped to check and found that the fans were not
working.  far left circuit breaker (#23)  I think,in section 3 sub 7 group
4 ) showed to be bridge within itself with 2- 20 amp fuses.  one of which
was melted.  Replaced the burnt fuse and had fans but still no cooling. 
Suspect the problem of a stuck thermostat?  Am I on the right track?  If so
why would the fuse be bridged as it is.  Fans do work now.
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In a message dated 9/28/99 10:13:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DMCJOE(AT)att.net 
writes:
<< You probably have a defective door switch. To isolate this problem jump the
 electrical leads connected to the switch. If the lights remain on when the
 door is open fully replace the switch.
  >>
DMC Joe,
    Before I do what you suggest I do, I wanted to see if the lights still 
did what I said they did and they go on when the door is all the way on the 
bottom like I said before and they also go on when the door is at its highest 
peak.  So it goes out anywhere in between those two points...should I still 
try what you suggested I do?
Later,
Nick
VIN#1852
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To anyone who may have doubts or even care about this...
.....Yes, the DeLorean Atari Machines ARE real and they do INDEED exist. I 
had the majority of them piled to the ceiling in my garage for several years 
and no clue on what to do with them.
They are not anything extremely significant. Just a souped up Atari with 
extra silver on it and on the joysticks with what I am pretty sure is the 
hood badge from the 1983 DMC's on the machine, all packed in a box with a 
foil metal DeLorean emblem in the corner.
There were about 50 made as far as I know, with two completely silver 
prototypes which is what is posted on ebay. The 50 varied slightly in design 
from what I could tell. Im not sure if they were made by Atari or a third 
party company, but the more I looked into it, I'd probably go with the later 
of the two. I bought them from directly from Atari in the early 90's because 
they simply didn't know what to do with them. I have heard a few different 
stories as to when and why they were produced, but it's all just very 
confusing to me, and it ended up causing a LOT of trouble between the history 
of the machines and the shipping from Florida, so I just got rid of them.
If you have any other questions or comments regarding these things, please 
e-mail me personally at Paraversal(AT)aol.com.
Just to clear a few things up, I am not selling these items, (or any other 
DeLorean related items) nor am I the owner of the one for sale on ebay.
Sorry to interrupt the list like this, and thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
Justin J Scott
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I've updated the web page of DMCNews. Please give it a look. Overall content
is pretty much the same, but it should be easier to find things and there is
a new look to the main page. Thanks again to Nikki Shumann for the great
artwork! Next project will be additions to the technical section. Note the
"Picture of the Month" has moved to its own page, submissions are
encouraged! Prior pictures will stay viewable as well.
You'll notice a "headline" at the moment about a problem with eGroups, I'll
do this whenever something stops working. If you stop getting the messages,
check here first (or on your own subscription at the eGroups page)
Special note to whoever sent in the recent picture of the "stretch"
DeLorean - I'm sorry but I lost your note. Please write back and I'll credit
you.
Always looking for more suggestions, I'll implement as time permits.
Dave

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Hello. everyone.  Im new to the list and i was wondering if anybody has John
Z. Delorean's mailing address, or phone number. I want to interview him
about the DMC 12 for my  media class report and possibly my school
newspaper.
Later,
    Steve (Badda-Bing)
  "No I dont drink and drive, I might spill it."  -EVH 1992
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If your battery was not old and the car wasn't left for 2 months, you've probably got a low amp short.
To check for this, turn everything in the car off, disconnect one battery terminal, then touch the terminal ever so lightly to its battery post.  If you see any spark, you've got a short.  To tell where, pull the fuses one at a time until you get no spark.  That's the circuit where the short is.
Bob 10961
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> Yesterday I went to start my D but soon discovered that the cheapo Costco battery had died. I jump started the car with the trusty 80 Buick and cruised on down to the local Monkey Wards for a new Interstate battery. The guys behind the counter couldn't find a listing for an 81 DeLorean so one of them suggested that they look under AMC! Need I say more? I got the new battery in and all is well. Today I entered the car in a local car show sponsored by the Camaro Club of San Diego but won nothing. The award for the best foreign car went to a shiny Pantera. There was also a guy there who looked just like Christopher Lloyd and enjoyed having his photo taken in front of my car. All in all it was a great weekend. My thanks to Wards for a good laugh...Fil Vigil
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Hi Nick,
In that case you've probably got a broken wire somewhere in your door hinge.
I had this problem with my car and I had to remove the top (T-bar) and the
inside covering of the doors to shift the problem so that the wiring does no
longer make any false contact when I open/close the door. Of course the bad
part in the harness was repaired. This was not really a big deal because the
car was completely dismantled anyway.
Cya,
Rob van der Veer, NL
VIN 3695
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Subject: [DML] Re: alarm/door lights/interesting occurance
In a message dated 9/28/99 10:13:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DMCJOE(AT)att.net
writes:
<< You probably have a defective door switch. To isolate this problem jump
the
 electrical leads connected to the switch. If the lights remain on when the
 door is open fully replace the switch.
  >>
DMC Joe,
    Before I do what you suggest I do, I wanted to see if the lights still 
did what I said they did and they go on when the door is all the way on the 
bottom like I said before and they also go on when the door is at its
highest 
peak.  So it goes out anywhere in between those two points...should I still 
try what you suggested I do?
Later,
Nick
VIN#1852
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 05:13:39 -0700
From: delorean502(AT)excite.com
Subject: [DML] wheel bearings
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If my problem happens to be the wheel bearings, what would happen if I
don't fix it right away and keep driving on them for a while?  I don't
plan on doing this, but its good to know what will happen so I can
convince my dad that we need to get new ones.  Thanks for all your input
Erik Geerdink
4512
EGGS D

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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 01:09:52 -0400
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Subject: [DML] Re: clutch cable/clutch master cylinder
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Not true.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: Mike Substelny <msubstel(AT)lorainccc.edu>
> Subject: [DML] Re: clutch cable/clutch master cylinder
> My mechanic told me that the DOT 4 fluid used by British cars wears out
master/slave cylinders
> faster than the DOT 3 fluid used in American cars.  It has to do with its
chemistry and
> tendency to absorb water.  He told me to expect to replace the
master/slave cylinders
> regularly.
> 
> Does anyone know if he is right?
> 
> - Mike Substelny

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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 01:20:33 -0400
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The bearing is non serviceable, just replace it. You will need to identify
which bearing is bad. 
To determine which bearing is bad drive the car on a traffic free roadway
and steer the car to the left and than to the right. Whichever direction
reduces the noise the bearing on the side of the turn is defective. In
other words: if you steer to the right and the noise is reduced the right
front bearing is defective.
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:26:56 -0400
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Your problem is related to fuel delivery, warm-up circuit, or fuel
enrichment circuit.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
> From: Rob van der Veer <Rob.van.der.Veer(AT)twinsoft.nl>
> Eric,
> 
> Can you tell me about your fuel problem? I'm having engine trouble myself
> and even the Volvo dealer cannot come up with a solution... The fact is
that
> my engine gradually loses power and RPM after 10 minutes of driving.
> 
> Rob van der Veer
> VIN 3695
> 

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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:39:32 -0400
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No; forget that test. Your problem may be a compromise of the ribbon wiring
harness that leads from the T-roof to the door, see, Parts Manual 3 / 7 / 1
fig. # 11
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> From: NJP548(AT)aol.com
> 
>     Before I do what you suggest I do, I wanted to see if the lights
still 
> did what I said they did and they go on when the door is all the way on
the 
> bottom like I said before and they also go on when the door is at its
highest 
> peak.  So it goes out anywhere in between those two points...should I
still 
> try what you suggested I do?
> 
> Later,
> Nick
> VIN#1852

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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 21:40:16 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <martin.is(AT)connect-2.co.uk>
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Hi all,
Dave Howarth is now operating a turn-around facility for re-gassed gas
struts (incl door struts).
I asked him for a price and he said 42 pounds per PAIR of struts. That
is including return international shipping. Simply send your sagging
struts to Dave with a cheque for 42 pounds (which equals 69 dollars -
slightly more than the cost of ONE new strut from DMC Houston) and he'll
send you a pair of re-gassed struts by return.
NB I've seen the results of these re-gassed struts - feel free to
download the video on the website (where you'll also find Dave Howarth's
address) of how a door SHOULD open :o)
 http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk/Downloads/dooropen.mpg
Also, the price of 42 pounds sends about 2 pounds to the club. The rest
is the cost of sending the struts off for re-gassing. Dave does this in
batches of about 30.
Best Wishes,
Martin
DeLorean Owners Club UK
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:42:14 -0700
From: delorean502(AT)excite.com
Subject: [DML] Just Shoot Me
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did anybody watch "Just Shoot Me" last night?  there was a Delorean in
it.  The old lady that tries to act and dress young drove it.  It had a
gas flap, thats all you could tell.  SHe hit a man with it when she was
making out with some ambassidor from another country.  Its nice to see
the D still used in TV and stuff.  But I think it needs another good
roll.
Erik Geerdink
4512
EGGS D

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Martin what happens when you only have one drooping wing <S>
Regards
John
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In a message dated 9/29/99 10:16:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
delorean502(AT)excite.com writes:
<< If my problem happens to be the wheel bearings, what would happen if I
 don't fix it right away and keep driving on them for a while?  I don't
 plan on doing this, but its good to know what will happen so I can
 convince my dad that we need to get new ones.  Thanks for all your input
  >>
There would be a good possibility that you could Shear your spindle if if the 
wheel bearing(s)seized or possibly fender /wheel damage if the wheel 
collapsed,those are extreme cases,but at the least you would get spindle 
damage,Very expensive to repair.Wheel bearing are very simple to replace,and 
cheap compared to the alternative.
Claude
Vin #000570 
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