From: eGroups Digest [dmcnews@egroups.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 12:37 PM To: David.Swingle Subject: dmcnews digest eGroups Daily Digest: dmcnews has 59 new messages. Click here http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3326 to read them. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 3326. delorean502@excite.com distributor 3327. King, Bob New Delorean owner! 3328. DMC5524@aol.com Re: Standalone DMC-12 3329. Gus Schlachter Re: car alarm for DMC? 3330. Jake Re: New Subscriber 3331. Mike Cutting windex?? 3332. DMC5524@aol.com Re: NCT Tires 3333. Michael Babb Re: Standalone DMC-12 3334. Michael Babb Re: Broken Door Lock? 3335. Scott Mueller Re: Clutch not releasing 3336. Michael Babb Re: car alarm for DMC? 3337. Scott Mueller Re: gas guage not working 3338. yugoman Re: Standalone DMC-12 3339. Mike Cutting asi manual / accessories 3340. Sean Howley Re: car alarm for DMC? 3341. Mike Substelny Using the DML to Conduct Surveys 3342. John Dore Custom DMC keychains - last call! 3343. rickaye@webtv.net engine additives 3344. DMC Joe Re: People in the know and people who don't know 3345. InkRanch@aol.com DeLoren dealership sign 3346. Thomas Smithson Associates Re: New Subscriber 3347. ROBLAMROCK@aol.com JOHN DELOREAN BANKRUPT 3348. 3349. Lance R Haslewood HOW MANY 'Ds' ARE ACTUALLY IN AUSTRALIA 3350. Marc A Levy Re: New Subscriber 3351. Todd Bankhead Re: gas guage not working 3352. James Espey JZD in the news 3353. j.vanderwerff@ind.tno.nl Re: car alarm for DMC? 3354. delorean502@excite.com D for sale 3355. William T Wilson Re: engine additives 3356. Gerald Deutsch Car show @ Englishtown, NJ... 3357. SteveDMC Re: windex?? 3358. Aaron Husak Coker tire ph. no. 3359. Mike Substelny Ohio Event this Weekend (near Michigan) 3360. DMC83in99@aol.com North Carolina DeLoreans 3361. DMC5524@aol.com Re: DeLoren dealership sign 3362. DMC Joe Re: car alarm for DMC? 3363. DMC Joe Re: gas gauge not working 3364. DMC Joe Re: engine additives 3365. DMC Joe Re: JZD in the news 3366. DMC Joe Re: Clutch not releasing 3367. DMC Joe Re: distributor 3368. Mark Noeltner Re: engine additives 3369. Mark Noeltner Re: Clutch not releasing 3370. James Fay Delorean Article 3371. Greg Linstad Idler pulley bolts 3372. magriese@us.ibm.com Re: NCT Tires 3373. Michael Babb Re: JZD in the news 3374. Mike03062@aol.com Re: JZD in the news 3375. Nathan m Cameron Re: engine additives 3376. SweatyEddy Re: engine additives 3377. LHEMB@aol.com Re: windex?? 3378. hobiedmc@hotmail.com Power to Fuel pump??? 3379. CBL302@aol.com Re: Gas Mask 3380. hobiedmc@hotmail.com Replacement Tires for the Originals? 3381. doctor280 Re: Driver's door does not latch 3382. King, Bob alarm/door lights/interesting occurance 3383. Lance R Haslewood HOW MANY 'Ds' ARE ACTUALLY IN AUSTRALIA 3384. DeLorean31@aol.com NJ and PA Events this weekend ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 3326 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3326 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:10:47 -0700 From: delorean502@excite.com Subject: [DML] distributor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've begon looking around for fule distributors, just in case I need to buy one to fix my D. Does anybody know the model distributor I need or any other distributor that would work on the Delorean? it's not urgent...yet...but I just want to get a feel for what's out there. I know DMC Houston has them for $1000. Thanks for the help. Erik Geerdink vin 4512 ------------------------------ message 3327 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3327 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "King, Bob" Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 14:26:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] New Delorean owner! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks! My name is Bob, and I just bought a 1981 DMC-12 on Thursday night (Sept 16th). VIN #2100 I've never strung the following words together in a sentence before, but I can now say with all sincerity: "I LOVE MY CAR!" One of the best investments I've ever made. Sure, it has it's minor flaws, but I accept the responsibility of taking care of this work of art and welcome this beautiful machine into the family. I am truly a proud owner. I look forward to exchanging questions and ideas with the group. See you on the road! ------------------------------ message 3328 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3328 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DMC5524@aol.com Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:46:31 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Standalone DMC-12 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/21/99 8:27:22 AM Central Daylight Time, cmhdevelopment@hotmail.com writes: << How many of you owners out there on the list do NOT keep your car reguarly garaged? >> I am probably in the minority here but my DeLorean sits outside 24 hours a day 7 days a week (unless we have an indoor car show). I have experienced no problems at all. I always have a sun shade in the window and it is covered whenever possible. I have had some people knock on my door and ask to look at it but that's it. I believe most people garage them because low cost, collector insurance usually requires it. My 1 & 1/2 cents. Dave VIN 5524 ------------------------------ message 3329 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3329 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Gus Schlachter Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 16:57:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: car alarm for DMC? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF047C.59BA4A60" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF047C.59BA4A60 Content-Type: text/plain One of the previous owners of my D put in an Alpine alarm system many years ago. It works fine for locking/unlocking the doors, and it will scream bloody murder if jolted. I don't know how hard it was to install, but I do know that there is an abundance of extracurricular wiring in my relay compartment, some of which is even labeled. :-) I think the problem installing a new alarm is trying to figure out the Lucas electricals, and even a wiring diagram may not help. Personally, I want the James Bond Security System (i.e., thief removes "DMC" logo from grill, car blows up.) Gus Schlachter Austin, TX VIN# 4695 > -----Original Message----- > From: King, Bob > Subject: [DML] car alarm for DMC? > > > Hi, all- > > Do the gull wing doors cause any significant problems when trying to > install a car alarm? Most car alarm specialty places I have called > haven't > installed into a DMC-12, but assume that everything will go without a > hitch. > I have no doubt that they *believe* they can do it, but I am sending out > feelers to find out if anyone has had problems with the installation of a > car alarm. > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF047C.59BA4A60 Content-Type: text/html content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable RE: [DML] car alarm for DMC?

One of the prev= ious owners of my D put in an Alpine alarm system many years ago.  It = works fine for locking/unlocking the doors, and it will scream bloody murde= r if jolted.  I don't know how hard it was to install, but I do know t= hat there is an abundance of extracurricular wiring in my relay compartment= , some of which is even labeled.  :-)   I think the problem = installing a new alarm is trying to figure out the Lucas electricals, and e= ven a wiring diagram may not help.

Personally, I w= ant the James Bond Security System (i.e., thief removes "DMC" log= o from grill, car blows up.)


Gus Schlachter<= /FONT>
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695


    -----Original Message---= --
    From:    = ;         King, Bob
    Subject:  &nb= sp;             &nbs= p; [DML] car alarm for DMC?


    Hi, all-

    Do the gull wing doors c= ause any significant problems when  trying to
    install a car alarm?&nb= sp; Most car alarm specialty places I have called haven't
    installed into a DMC-12= , but assume that everything will go without a hitch.
    I have no doubt that th= ey *believe* they can do it, but I am sending out
    feelers to find out if = anyone has had problems with the installation of a
    car alarm.


------_=_NextPart_001_01BF047C.59BA4A60-- ------------------------------ message 3330 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3330 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Jake" References: Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:10:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: New Subscriber Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jacen, The best information you can receive simply by reading this list. You will learn a great deal in a short amount of time. If you need more reasons to buy the car, I strongly recommend Gus Schlachter's Top Ten List. Jake ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 2:18 PM Subject: [DML] New Subscriber > Hey all! Greetings! > I just subscribed to the DML and wanted to introduce myself. My name's > Jacen R. Lance, and I'm from Maui, HI. 18, and have loved DeLoreans since > (and I'm not gonna lie) I saw BTTF for the first time. My love was further > enhanced when I first saw one up close at a local mall where they were having > a contest and you could win one. I sat in it, looked around...and knew I > wanted one. They're such unique and extraordinary cars. > I don't know much about them though...don't really know anything at all. > A lot of it is a mystery to me, and I have recently found the time (although > that's a lie...more like making time) to try and do some research on these > fascinating cars. But for now, any information any of you would like to > share would be greatly appreciated. Since I am at the moment looking to buy > one, I would like to know what a perspective buyer should know. ------------------------------ message 3331 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3331 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Mike Cutting" References: <199909211307.JAA19133@ns1.nt.net> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:16:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] windex?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit it was suggested to me, by a fellow delorean enthusiast that windex would remove fingerprints, quite nicely... will this harm my vehicle? :) mike cutting 11434 ------------------------------ message 3332 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3332 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DMC5524@aol.com Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 19:10:21 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: NCT Tires Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/21/99 4:11:56 PM Central Daylight Time, SteveDMC@i-55.com writes: << The sets of tires that were show in BTTF were goodyear NTCs Note to moderator, If my post does not make the list then perhaps I shouldn't have seen the message i am replying to. Were the tires on the BTTF > DeLorean NCTs? Thanks. >> I don't wish to dwell on the subject, but I do hope this gets posted. The tires on the DeLorean Time Machine ARE NOT Goodyear NCT's. They are in fact Goodyear Eagle GT's. Doubt me? Check for yourself (preferably before you try to answer someones question) by watching the first movie. As the DeLorean is being operated by remote control there is a scene where the rear end of the car slides towards the camera. If you read it fast (or pause the movie) you will notice that I am correct. If you have any questions please feel free to ask, and to everyone out there: No matter how simple or unimportant the question is, lets try to get correct info out there. Thanks! Dave VIN 5524 ------------------------------ message 3333 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3333 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Michael Babb" References: <19990920213541.87849.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:41:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Standalone DMC-12 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF0458.93F05EA0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF0458.93F05EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I have had my DeLorean about three years, and it has lived outside for all = three of those years (part of the time in a car port....all of the time at = apartment complexes). The only real problem I have had with it being out y= ear round is people wanting to touch the Stainless Steel. Usually not a pr= oblem, but when the car is dusty, and they run their fingers over it, you c= an get scratches. I did have the front grill stolen off of my car and the radio ripped out...= ..but I blame myself for having to leave it at work overnight (and I guess = I forgot to set the alarm). At least they were nice enough to completely r= eclose the doors after poking around. (nothing else taken from the car (ev= en the CD's, $500 camera, and other "goodies"). That is the only time I have had problems...never when parked at a residenc= e.....even in questionable areas Michael Babb VIN 3472 ----- Original Message ----- = From: Christopher Hawes = To: dmcnews@egroups.com = Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 4:35 PM Subject: [DML] Standalone DMC-12 This is a subject that has been on my mind a lot lately. How many of you owners out there on the list do NOT keep your car reguarly = garaged? Do you feel safe leaving your car out on the street? After all the car usually draws admiring glances. I remember one owner had his D stolen from his DMC emblem on the grill. I = reckon that was probably sliced off with a kraft knife or something as = nothing else was reported broken or missing... I suppose a few bits of trim may be taken but luckily the Delorean is prett= y = solid and whole and lacks ornatmental gubbins that are stuck on just for = show.... The reason I ask this is that it will take longer to buy a DMC if I have to= = find a home with a garage first. Christopher M. Hawes DMD (Delorean Model Dealership) ______________________________________________________ = ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address mode= rato-@dmcnews.com = ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF0458.93F05EA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
I have had my DeLorean about three years, and it has lived outside for= all = three of those years (part of the time in a car port....all of the time at = apartment complexes).  The only real problem I have had with it being = out = year round is people wanting to touch the Stainless Steel.  Usually no= t a = problem, but when the car is dusty, and they run their fingers over it, you= can = get scratches.
 
I did have the front grill stolen off of my car and the radio ripped = out.....but I blame myself for having to leave it at work overnight (and I = guess = I forgot to set the alarm).  At least they were nice enough to complet= ely = reclose the doors after poking around.  (nothing else taken from the c= ar = (even the CD's, $500 camera, and other "goodies").
 
That is the only time I have had problems...never when parked at a = residence.....even in questionable areas
 
Michael Babb
VIN 3472
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 4= :35 = PM
Subject: [DML] Standalone DMC-12 

This is a subject that has been on my mind a lot lately.

How many of you owners out there on the list do NOT keep your car reguarly =

garaged?

Do you feel safe leaving your car out on the street?
After all the car usually draws admiring glances.

I remember one owner had his D stolen from his DMC emblem on the grill.  I =

reckon that was probably sliced off with a kraft knife or something as =

nothing else was reported broken or missing...

I suppose a few bits of trim may be taken but luckily the Delorean is prett=
y =

solid and whole and lacks ornatmental gubbins that are stuck on just for =

show....

The reason I ask this is that it will take longer to buy a DMC if I have to=
 =

find a home with a garage first.



Christopher M. Hawes
DMD (Delorean Model Dealership)

______________________________________________________
To address comments privately to the moderating team, pl= ease = address moderato-@dmcnews.com =
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF0458.93F05EA0-- ------------------------------ message 3334 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3334 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Michael Babb" References: Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:45:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Broken Door Lock? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01BF0459.1F23BEE0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BF0459.1F23BEE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I usually have problems with the passenger side door lock when I have had a= passenger (they seem to be afraid to close the door all the way). If the = door is not latched all the way, the lock will only go about half way (and = stay there). I then have to crawl in, lean over the console, and rock the = lock back to the "unlock" position. after opening and reclosing the door a= gain, everything is then OK. I would think that the same would occure of t= he door alignment os off. Michael Babb VIN 3472 ----- Original Message ----- = From: King, Bob = To: dmcnews@egroups.com = Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 4:49 PM Subject: [DML] Broken Door Lock? Hi- I have been trouble shooting my newly purchased '81 DeLorean for the past few days, and happily, I have very few troubles to shoot. The most noticeable problem I have encountered thus far is the door lock on the passenger side. I noticed a 'stiffness' to the locking mechanisms when I purchased the car, but this did not seem too extraordinary for an 18 year old vehicle. I applied WD 40 to the 4 locking mechanisms I could get to (front and back latches of each door), which helped with the overall stiffness, but the front latch on the passenger side works only sporadically. I can never tel= l when the lock is actually going to catch (the Lock Doors light has been helpful here) but more often than not, the door won't unlock. Does this sound like a mechanical problem, or an electrical one? I believe the alignment of the doors is very good, if not perfect, but what's the bes= t way to tell if this is what is interfering with the lock? Is a broken door lock something that is fairly easily fixed or replaced? If anyone has had a similar problem and has solved it, please drop me a line. Thanks, Bob = ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address mode= rato-@dmcnews.com = ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BF0459.1F23BEE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
I usually have problems with the passenger side door lock when I have = had a = passenger (they seem to be afraid to close the door all the way).  If = the = door is not latched all the way, the lock will only go about half way (and = stay = there).  I then have to crawl in, lean over the console, and rock the = lock = back to the "unlock" position.  after opening and reclosing the door a= gain, = everything is then OK.  I would think that the same would occure of th= e = door alignment os off.
 
Michael Babb
VIN 3472
----- Original Message -----
Fro= m: = King, Bob =
Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 4= :49 = PM
Subject: [DML] Broken Door Lock? 

Hi-

I have been trouble shooting my newly purchased '81 DeLorean for the past
few days, and happily, I have very few troubles to shoot.

The most noticeable problem I have encountered thus far is the door lock on
the passenger side.

I noticed a 'stiffness' to the locking mechanisms when I purchased the car,
but this did not seem too extraordinary for an 18 year old vehicle.  I
applied WD 40 to the 4 locking mechanisms I could get to (front and back
latches of each door), which helped with the overall stiffness, but the
front latch on the passenger side works only sporadically.  I can never tel=
l
when the lock is actually going to catch (the Lock Doors light has been
helpful here) but more often than not, the door won't unlock.

Does this sound like a mechanical problem, or an electrical one?  I believe
the alignment of the doors is very good, if not perfect, but what's the bes=
t
way to tell if this is what is interfering with the lock?

Is a broken door lock something that is fairly easily fixed or replaced?

If anyone has had a similar problem and has solved it, please drop me a
line.

Thanks,

Bob
To address comments privately to the moderating team, pl= ease = address moderato-@dmcnews.com =
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BF0459.1F23BEE0-- ------------------------------ message 3335 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3335 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Scott Mueller" References: <19990920191447.JXKK17922@delorean> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 19:08:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Clutch not releasing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to all for your suggestions on solving the "stuck" clutch problem. As you may recall, it appeared that the clutch was not disengaging the flywheel from the transmission. A friend at work suggested that I try placing the transmission in reverse while the engine was off. Then, I depressed the clutch peddle to disengage the clutch while cranking the engine. When I first tried to crank the engine the car lept backwards. I tried again and the clutch disengaged and the engine started. I ran out of time tonight to try and drive the car, but it seems to be OK. Now, I would like your input as to why the clutch would stick to the flywheel and not release. As I said in my original post, there was plenty of fluid in the clutch hydraulic system and no problems when I last drove the car several months ago. Any ideas?? Scott 002981 ------------------------------ message 3336 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3336 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Michael Babb" References: Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:11:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: car alarm for DMC? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0069_01BF045C.B4221CA0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01BF045C.B4221CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable My 81 has an Alpine car alarm installed in it. It even includes the module= to lock and unlock the doors (good thing since the door key has been AWOL = since before I bought the car). I believe that this (along with the Alpine= Radio) were installed by Stephen Wynne for the previous owner. I believe that Rob Grady (www.pjgrady.com) is also working on an addition t= o the lockzilla that would probably be a good ad-on to an alarm system Michael Babb VIN 3472 ----- Original Message ----- = From: King, Bob = To: dmcnews@egroups.com = Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 3:08 PM Subject: [DML] car alarm for DMC? Hi, all- Do the gull wing doors cause any significant problems when trying to install a car alarm? Most car alarm specialty places I have called haven't installed into a DMC-12, but assume that everything will go without a hitch= . I have no doubt that they *believe* they can do it, but I am sending out feelers to find out if anyone has had problems with the installation of a car alarm. On the same note, if anyone knows of a place that has experience with car alarms in a DMC-12 in Northern California, please let me know. Also, any suggestions for a type/brand of alarm for a Delorean would be appreciated. Thanks Bob = ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address mode= rato-@dmcnews.com = ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01BF045C.B4221CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
My 81 has an Alpine car alarm installed in it.  It even includes = the = module to lock and unlock the doors (good thing since the door key has been= AWOL = since before I bought the car).  I believe that this (along with the A= lpine = Radio) were installed by Stephen Wynne for the previous owner.
 
I believe that Rob Grady (www.pjgrady.com) is also working on an = addition to the lockzilla that would probably be a good ad-on to an al= arm = system
 
Michael Babb
VIN 3472
 
----- Original Message -----
Fro= m: = King, Bob =
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 = 3:08 = PM
Subject: [DML] car alarm for DMC?<= /DIV> 

Hi, all-

Do the gull wing doors cause any significant problems when  trying to
install a car alarm?  Most car alarm specialty places I have called haven't
installed into a DMC-12, but assume that everything will go without a hitch=
.
I have no doubt that they *believe* they can do it, but I am sending out
feelers to find out if anyone has had problems with the installation of a
car alarm.

On the same note, if anyone knows of a place that has experience with car
alarms in a DMC-12 in Northern California, please let me know.

Also, any suggestions for a type/brand of alarm for a Delorean would be
appreciated.

Thanks

Bob
To address comments privately to the moderating team, pl= ease = address moderato-@dmcnews.com =
------=_NextPart_000_0069_01BF045C.B4221CA0-- ------------------------------ message 3337 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3337 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Scott Mueller" References: <7s48tr$2297@eGroups.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 19:14:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: gas guage not working Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The tank mounted sender is probably stuck or the wires have come loose. If the sender is bad and you cannot find an original, spend the money for a tankzilla. Its supposed to be bullet proof. Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 10:16 PM Subject: [DML] gas guage not working > i have an 81 d and the gas guage is not working. has anyone had this > problem and are there any sugestions on how to fix the problem. ------------------------------ message 3338 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3338 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "yugoman" Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 20:33:19 -0400 Subject: [DML] Re: Standalone DMC-12 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mine stays parked inthe driveway, no problems yet. It would be nicer to put a good cover on it, to protect it from the sun and from "prying eyes" -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Hawes To: dmcnews@egroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 9:24 AM Subject: [DML] Standalone DMC-12 >This is a subject that has been on my mind a lot lately. > >How many of you owners out there on the list do NOT keep your car reguarly >garaged? > >Do you feel safe leaving your car out on the street? >After all the car usually draws admiring glances. > >I remember one owner had his D stolen from his DMC emblem on the grill. I >reckon that was probably sliced off with a kraft knife or something as >nothing else was reported broken or missing... > >I suppose a few bits of trim may be taken but luckily the Delorean is pretty >solid and whole and lacks ornatmental gubbins that are stuck on just for >show.... > >The reason I ask this is that it will take longer to buy a DMC if I have to >find a home with a garage first. > > > >Christopher M. Hawes >DMD (Delorean Model Dealership) > >______________________________________________________ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > ------------------------------ message 3339 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3339 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Mike Cutting" References: <199909211307.JAA19133@ns1.nt.net> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 21:00:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] asi manual / accessories Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit greetings.. my stereo is an asi (that's right.. right??).. the radio works fine, but the tape deck doesn't.. it operates, but, only a static sound comes out.. i was wondering if anyone knew where i could get a repair manual for my radio.. i know there was one.. just, where does one find them?? also, at one time, i found a web site selling "DMC" jackets... i can't find it now. any suggestions?? mike cutting 11434 ------------------------------ message 3340 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3340 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Sean Howley" References: Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 21:07:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: car alarm for DMC? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had my car alarm installed at the local Circuit City. They had no problems and everything works just fine! Sean Howley VIN#2345 ------------------------------ message 3341 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3341 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:51:06 -0400 From: Mike Substelny MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Using the DML to Conduct Surveys Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Currently we have two threads running which are essentially surveys. They are "How many people have a car alarm?" and "How many people store their DeLoreans outdoors?" These threads are getting a lot of responses which contain very little information. They *almost* qualify as "me too" posts. Allow me to point out that eGroups has a perfectly good survey function which is available to all of us. It could easily tally up these statistics without jamming all of our E-mail boxes. In the interest of keeping the DML a pleasant community, I STRONGLY SUGGEST that these questions be conducted as surveys in the future. If you want to accumulate detailed statistics, like the brand name of their alarm or stereo, please ask subscribers to send private Email to you. When you tally the results feel free to post them to the rest of us. For an example, see the "Frequency of Accidents for DeLoreans vs Other Cars" survey in the 1997 back issues: http://www.dmcnews.com/backissues/dml211.html - Mike Substelny this week's DML moderator ------------------------------ message 3342 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3342 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "John Dore" Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:14:18 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Custom DMC keychains - last call! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>I just received the custom DMC key chain and tire valve stem covers. >>>They are excellent quality and really outstanding. I'm going to order >>>another set. >>> >>>Dr. Bob Hello! Regarding the custom DMC keychains and airvalve caps I sell on my website, I still have some left, and would like to sell them in America before I go back home to Ireland. They can be viewed on my website at : http://homepage.tinet.ie/~johndore/keychain.html The sets (including postage) cost $29.50, and my mailing address in San Francisco is : John Dore, 225 Ellis Street, San Francisco, CA 94102 I'm off back to Ireland at the end of next week, so I don't have much time left. If I could get the checks by the weekend coming, or Monday at the latest, I'll mail out the sets straight away. If people in the UK or Ireland would like me to bring home a few sets for them, then e-mail me and we'll sort it out. All the guys who got them seem to be delighted with the quality of the sets, and I'm sure you will be too!! If I run out of sets before I get your letter, I'll mail your check back to you no problem. Anyway, hopefully some last-minute customers are out there somewhere, and they'll buy a set or 2 off me..... Best wishes to all, I had a great summer in California! John Dore http:/homepage.tinet.ie/~johndore "John's Irish DeLorean Webpage!" ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ message 3343 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3343 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:52:40 -0700 From: rickaye@webtv.net Subject: [DML] engine additives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit has anone tried to use a engine treatement to the engine in there DMC. i have been thinging about trying the pro long treatment in mine. does anyone know of any draw backs or good aspectes of this type of treatment. thanks officer rick ------------------------------ message 3344 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3344 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 23:08:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: People in the know and people who don't know (no no no) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes there are problems with the design of the factory central locking system which has been solved with the Lockzilla, but lets not start any rumors about the door latches. The original system is an excellent design and the hardware never seems to wear out. Door latch problems usually don't start by themselves. Inexperienced hands are usually the culprit. Sometimes mis-fitting or improperly installed door seals or door guides can also cause alignment and latch problems. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- From: Gus Schlachter To: DMC Mailing List (E-mail) Subject: [DML] Re: People in the know and people who don't know (no no no) Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 4:56 PM Hey, I bet we can all agree that the trademark gull-wing doors constitute a "mechanical marvel." Well, except for the latching mechanism that everyone seems to be having trouble with lately. And the electric locks weren't exactly engineered by NASA. Hmm, and those windows.... But how 'bout them cryogenic torsion bars?! Those are way cool! Gus Schlachter Austin, TX VIN# 4695 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 3345 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3345 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: InkRanch@aol.com Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 01:39:50 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DeLoren dealership sign Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, DeLorean owners hope you dont mind just thought I would drop you a line about my DeLorean dealership sign for sale on Ebay Item #166799363 under the DeLorean search. It is double sided, lights up ,has a super low opening bid and no reserve. Thanks , Cameron Eagle inkranch@aol.com ------------------------------ message 3346 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3346 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Thomas Smithson Associates" Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 20:02:41 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: New Subscriber Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lance, There are about nine DeLoreans on Oahu as far as several of us owners can calculate. I have a 1981 with 6800 miles for sale. E-mail me direct at tsassoc@pixi.com if you are interested. Aloha, Thom VIN #3089 -----Original Message----- From: KnightJRL@aol.com To: dmcnews@egroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 11:12 AM Subject: [DML] New Subscriber >Hey all! Greetings! > I just subscribed to the DML and wanted to introduce myself. My name's >Jacen R. Lance, and I'm from Maui, HI. 18, and have loved DeLoreans since >(and I'm not gonna lie) I saw BTTF for the first time. My love was further >enhanced when I first saw one up close at a local mall where they were having >a contest and you could win one. I sat in it, looked around...and knew I >wanted one. They're such unique and extraordinary cars. > I don't know much about them though...don't really know anything at all. >A lot of it is a mystery to me, and I have recently found the time (although >that's a lie...more like making time) to try and do some research on these >fascinating cars. But for now, any information any of you would like to >share would be greatly appreciated. Since I am at the moment looking to buy >one, I would like to know what a perspective buyer should know. > Also, are there any of you DMC enthusiasts in Hawaii? Specifically Maui? > And would anyone know if there is a D for sale in this area? One with low >mileage is preferable. > Well, I'm glad to have joined this group, and I'm sure I'll get a lot >from it! Aloha! > >Jacen R. Lance > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > > ------------------------------ message 3347 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3347 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: ROBLAMROCK@aol.com Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 04:15:34 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] JOHN DELOREAN BANKRUPT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sad news just off the wires that John has filed as bankrupt in order to protect his property in Bedminster from being seized. ------------------------------ message 3348 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3348 ------------------------------ message 3349 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3349 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 19:23:58 +1000 From: Lance R Haslewood In-Reply-To: <199909211156.VAA19554@mailman.zeta.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] HOW MANY 'Ds' ARE ACTUALLY IN AUSTRALIA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Greg, I think there are about 11 DeLoreans in Australia.=A0 Here's a breakdown as= per my records: Queensland - two New South Wales - three Victoria - three South Australia - one Western Australia - two. The South Australian DeLorean is owned by a person from the Northern= Territory and is on loan to the National Auto Museum at Birdwood (north of Adelaide). A Western Australian owner has two, one of which is insitu in Melbourne and the other is in WA.=A0 This particular owner has an original right-hand drive= and so do I.=A0 Mine is a Eurospec model.=A0 I'm not sure about his.=A0 If you= contact me directly, I'll pass onto you the name of the West Australian owner. One of the NSW 'Ds' is undergoing restoration and probably won't be= roadworthy for quite some time. In addition to the above, Pepsi Australia (in 1986) made available a right-hand DeLorean as a prize in a competition to launch Back To The Future into Australian cinemas.=A0 The winner and location of the car, which displayed distinctive =91PEPSI=92 licence plates is unknown. Please give me a call on 0414 295 888 (mobile) or 02 9840 8409 (BUS) and perhaps we can arrange a get together. Lance Sydney=20 > > Lance and friends=20 > > I have 4162, there is one for sale in Perth, there is one in a museum in Ad=3D=20 > elaide, I hear there is another one coming to Brisbane from LA, there is= M=3D=20 > r Junin's mentioned below...that makes 5 or so.=20 > > Are ther any more know down under?=20 > > Greg Scalia=20 > > ----------=20 > From: =3D09Lance R Haslewood[SMTP:lanceh@zeta.org.au]=20 > Sent: =3D09Sunday, September 19, 1999 7:45 PM=20 > To: =3D09dmcnews@egroups.com=20 > Subject: =3D09[DML] RHD CONVERSION=20 > > I recall someone from the UK asking about a RHD conversion. William=20 > Junkins from Sydney is presently having his DeLorean converted to RHD. It= =20 > is being carried out by a RHD specialist in Brookvale (Sydney suburb).=20 > Willlam has all the good oil on the conversion, so if anyone has any=20 > questions, please give him a honk on either of the two addresses below.=20 > I'm sure William will be only too pleased to offer adivce and give a= SITREP=20 > on the progress of his vehicle.=20 > > William_Junkins@xircom.com=20 > seek200@bigpond.com=20 > > Lance (Australia)=20 ------------------------------ message 3350 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3350 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:55:05 -0400 From: Marc A Levy MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: [DML] Re: New Subscriber Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The DML archives will answer most, if not all of the questions you have. This is good advice for everyone! KnightJRL@aol.com wrote: > I don't know much about them though...don't really know anything at all. > A lot of it is a mystery to me, and I have recently found the time (although > that's a lie...more like making time) to try and do some research on these > fascinating cars. But for now, any information any of you would like to > share would be greatly appreciated. Since I am at the moment looking to buy > one, I would like to know what a perspective buyer should know. ------------------------------ message 3351 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3351 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:40:14 -0500 From: Todd Bankhead Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: gas guage not working Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rick I just saw your message (I'm a little behind) and thought you might like some input from someone who opted for the "rebuild the tank sending unit yourself" route. My '81 d had the gas gauge pointing straight up thing going, so I ripped the sending unit out and tore it open. There is a snap on screen holder at the bottom of the unit (easy enough) that when you pop it off will reveal a 5.5 mm nut in the center and a peg off to the side. Both are coming through the bottom of a plastic piece that would pry off easily if 1) you get the nut off and 2) if the peg weren't so rusty and in need of cleaning. The nut is screwed to the center post that runs all the way through the top where it meets an electical connector (black wire). When unsrcrewing the nut, the post will want to turn with it, thus breaking the coiled ground wire (if it isn't already) that is attached from the float to the top of the post inside the unit. At the bottom of the post there is a fixed holder for the gas warning light wire (red wire) that will also break (the wire, not the holder) if the post goes spinning upon nut removal. The off center peg has a wire coiled around it that the contact on the float "reads." The peg is pretty ridged so it will not break if you take care with the amount of pressure you put on it. Hind-sight tells me that I would have saved myself a lot of sodering if I had made damn sure that the center post would not have spun upon nut removal. Perhaps cutting a slit with a Dremmel tool into the top of the center post (where the black wire is attached to the unit) so it could be secured with a screw driver while the nut is removed. Now I'm at the point where I must replace the coiled ground wire and the straight thin wire. I think they are of a specific resistance, but I have a feeling that I won't get that info here. I'll probably reuse some wire out of an old junk Audi sending unit. I'll keep you posted on the progress. Todd "Project Car 4 Sure" B. ------------------------------ message 3352 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3352 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:42:22 -0500 From: James Espey Subject: [DML] JZD in the news Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tuesday September 21, 9:04 pm Eastern Time DeLorean Files for Bankruptcy NEWARK, N.J. (AP) -- Former automaker John Z. DeLorean was able to prevent the U.S. marshal's auction of his sprawling Bedminster estate by filing for bankruptcy protection. DeLorean, known for the stainless steel, gull-wing sports cars that bore his name, issued a statement that his Chapter 11 reorganization filing would allow him to develop his 434-acre Lamington Farm into two 18-hole golf courses and an equestrian center. He could not be reached for comment Tuesday. One of his chief creditors, his onetime lawyer Mayer Morganroth, told The Star-Ledger of Newark on Tuesday that the filing was an ``inappropriate'' ploy to buy time and would be challenged. A message left for Morganroth at his Michigan office was not immediately returned. He is trying to enforce a $7.5 million judgment against DeLorean for unpaid legal fees. DeLorean, 74, also owes about $11 million to Merrill Lynch Credit Corp. ------------------------------ message 3353 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3353 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:14:36 -0700 From: j.vanderwerff@ind.tno.nl In-Reply-To: Subject: [DML] Re: car alarm for DMC? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob, I have installed an alarm by myself in a DeLorean, and had no problems with it. I instlled the internal movement sensors (ultra-sound)in the back near the rear window instead at the A-pillars as recomended in the instructions. While the original solenoid door-lock actuators where fried I replaced them whith modern motor driven actuators wich made the installation of the alarm easyer. Besides of tracing down the right wires the installation of an alarm in a DeLorean should not give any problem. good luck John "king, bob" wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=3325 > Hi, all- > > Do the gull wing doors cause any significant problems when trying to > install a car alarm? Most car alarm specialty places I have called haven't > installed into a DMC-12, but assume that everything will go without a hitch. > I have no doubt that they *believe* they can do it, but I am sending out > feelers to find out if anyone has had problems with the installation of a > car alarm. > > On the same note, if anyone knows of a place that has experience with car > alarms in a DMC-12 in Northern California, please let me know. > > Also, any suggestions for a type/brand of alarm for a Delorean would be > appreciated. > > Thanks > > Bob ------------------------------ message 3354 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3354 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:39:09 -0700 From: delorean502@excite.com Subject: [DML] D for sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is a Delorean at Prestige Motors in Grand Rapids Michigan for sale. It looks to be in excelletn condition with no visible flaws. it has 8,210 miles on it and has won many awards. the website is www.prestigemotorsltd.com the website doesn't have a pic or anything, but you can get a hold of them via that. They want $15,750 for it. oh, its an '81 I don't know about the tranny. ------------------------------ message 3355 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3355 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:16:06 -0400 (EDT) From: William T Wilson In-Reply-To: <7s9cp8$alh4@eGroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: engine additives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 rickaye@webtv.net wrote: > has anone tried to use a engine treatement to the engine in there DMC. I have written on the subject of oil additives quite frequently. You might want to look in the archives. Anyway, the short answer is that an oil additive is just not going to do your engine any good. If you want to do your engine a good thing, use synthetic oil, or use regular oil and change it regularly. The basic reason for this is that the oil companies invest more money into R&D on their oil than the additive makers' whole company is worth. If there is some miracle ingredient that makes oil better, the oil makers would be using it already. Yet none of the reputable oil makers manufactures any additives - they don't even have any third party additives that they recommend. To compound things, oil is a very complex set of chemicals. Every oil is a little different, even though most of them are fairly similar, none are identical. The additive makers don't even know what sort of chemistry their product will be going in. Fuel treatments are typically in the same boat, except for fuel treatments that perform a specific task (stabilizer, injector cleaner, whatever - these are frequently, but not always, good at what they do). ------------------------------ message 3356 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3356 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Gerald Deutsch" Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:22:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Car show @ Englishtown, NJ... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF050E.3B4AC4A0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF050E.3B4AC4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable This sunday is the car show and swap meet at Raceway Park in Englishtown NJ= . I will most likely be attending. If anyone else wants to go and would lik= e to "caravan", e-mail me directly. Thank you. ---Dan Vin#5493 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF050E.3B4AC4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
This sunday is the car show and swap me= et at = Raceway Park in Englishtown NJ. I will most likely be attending. If anyone = else = wants to go and would like to "caravan", e-mail me directly. Than= k = you.
 
---Dan Vin#5493
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF050E.3B4AC4A0-- ------------------------------ message 3357 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3357 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "SteveDMC" References: <199909211307.JAA19133@ns1.nt.net> <001601bf047e$f4f5c0c0$10d82fce@mc1> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:20:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: windex?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can use windex on your car to remove finger prints and dirt very easily. When i am at a carshow with my friends we take the windex and spray it on paper towels and just wipe it clean, with the grain. Its an easy way to clean your D before a show without having to actually wash it. > it was suggested to me, by a fellow delorean enthusiast that windex would > remove fingerprints, quite nicely... > > will this harm my vehicle? > > :) > mike cutting > 11434 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > > ------------------------------ message 3358 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3358 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Aaron Husak" Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:26:30 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Coker tire ph. no. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was told by a DMC owner @ the Auburn, IN auction that the NCT's are available from Coker(sp?) in Nashville, TN. He obtained his from themnot all that long ago. Any further info. on this? Robert VIN 6924 *********************************** Don't know if Coker has them - they aren't on the list I have but their phone number is 800-251-6336. Their staff is generally very helpful. Aaron Husak ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ message 3359 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3359 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:32:12 -0400 From: Mike Substelny MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Ohio Event this Weekend (near Michigan) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The DeLorean Club of Ohio will be attending a clam bake on Put-In-Bay Island this Saturday. We are expecting a number of local DeLoreans, with possible opportunities to display our cars in a couple of very scenic locations. We might even have a parade through town. The reason we have not publicized this event very much is because we did not want to hurt attendance at the big event in Atlanta this weekend. Unfortunately, we had no control over the date. Any DeLorean fans in Ohio or Michigan who want a look at a squadron of stainless beauties should ride the ferry boat from Port Clinton to Put-In-Bay this Saturday. Put-In-Bay is a party town, and you are sure to have a good time. Contact me or see these websites for details: http://www.put-in-bay.com/ http://www.putinbay.com/ - Mike Substelny ------------------------------ message 3360 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3360 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DMC83in99@aol.com Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:36:26 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] North Carolina DeLoreans Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I keep seeing postings about state DeLorean clubs, and I was wondering if NC had one? If anyone knows of one, how about letting me know? Scott #16738 ------------------------------ message 3361 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3361 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DMC5524@aol.com Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:56:16 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DeLoren dealership sign Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The seller of this sign must not be too familiar with the DeLorean automobile. In the description he says "DMC logo done in brushed aluminum... Without a magnet you would swear it's stainless steel just like the car." FYI - The stainless steel on the DeLorean (Grade 304) is non-magnetic, just like aluminum. My 1 1/2 cents, Dave VIN 5524 ------------------------------ message 3362 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3362 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:48:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: car alarm for DMC? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hold it ! Lets keep the facts straight. The DeLorean electrical system is not a Lucas design. It does contain a couple of lucas parts but that's it. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- From: Gus Schlachter I think the problem installing a new alarm is trying to figure out the Lucas electricals, and even a wiring diagram may not help. ------------------------------ message 3363 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3363 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:11:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: gas gauge not working Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We have some factory senders on our shelf; contact us directly for details. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: Scott Mueller > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Re: gas guage not working > Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 8:14 PM > > The tank mounted sender is probably stuck or the wires have come loose. If > the sender is bad and you cannot find an original, spend the money for a > tankzilla. Its supposed to be bullet proof. > > Scott > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > > Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 10:16 PM > Subject: [DML] gas guage not working > > > > i have an 81 d and the gas guage is not working. has anyone had this > > problem and are there any sugestions on how to fix the problem. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > ------------------------------ message 3364 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3364 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:16:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: engine additives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Save your money, all your engine needs are regular oil changes and some TLC. My 260k mile D has never seen a drop of any fluid other than name brand oil. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: rickaye@webtv.net > To: dmcnews@eGroups.com > Subject: [DML] engine additives > Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 9:52 PM > > has anone tried to use a engine treatement to the engine in there DMC. > i have been thinging about trying the pro long treatment in mine. does > anyone know of any draw backs or good aspectes of this type of > treatment. > thanks > officer rick > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > ------------------------------ message 3365 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3365 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:51:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: JZD in the news Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is good news and bad news. The good news is that this should put an end to all the talk about a new DeLorean. The bad news is that John is still in hot water financially. For all of us JZD supporters I wouldn't worry to much. Shortly after the company folded he owed 80 million dollars and he has been able to hold on to his property all these years. This is just another legal move to allow him stay in Bedminster. Good luck John, we love you. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: James Espey > > Date: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 10:42 AM > > Tuesday September 21, 9:04 pm Eastern Time > > DeLorean Files for Bankruptcy > > NEWARK, N.J. (AP) -- Former automaker John Z. DeLorean was able to prevent the U.S. marshal's auction of his sprawling Bedminster estate by filing for bankruptcy protection. ------------------------------ message 3366 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3366 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:06:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Clutch not releasing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If the car was not driven for a period of time it is not unusual for the clutch disc to stick to the pressure plate. Keep in mind that the release clearance is measured in millimeters therefore any buildup of moisture, dust, or other foreign matter will cause the sticking problem. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: Scott Mueller > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Re: Clutch not releasing > Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 8:08 PM > > Thanks to all for your suggestions on solving the "stuck" clutch problem. > > As you may recall, it appeared that the clutch was not disengaging the > flywheel from the transmission. > > A friend at work suggested that I try placing the transmission in reverse > while the engine was off. Then, I depressed the clutch peddle to disengage > the clutch while cranking the engine. When I first tried to crank the > engine the car lept backwards. I tried again and the clutch disengaged and > the engine started. I ran out of time tonight to try and drive the car, but > it seems to be OK. > > Now, I would like your input as to why the clutch would stick to the > flywheel and not release. As I said in my original post, there was plenty > of fluid in the clutch hydraulic system and no problems when I last drove > the car several months ago. > > Any ideas?? > > Scott > 002981 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > ------------------------------ message 3367 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3367 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:10:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: distributor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The fuel distributor is a Bosch FD-46X. Unfortunately this number won't be of much help if you start calling parts suppliers. They would rather have application information. You might be lucky and find a 1980 through 1983 Volvo 260-262 GLE series with the B28F engine in some junk yard. Unfortunately if the car sat unused for an extended period of time and exposed to the elements the distributor is probably N.G. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: delorean502@excite.com > To: dmcnews@eGroups.com > Subject: [DML] distributor > Date: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 11:10 AM > > I've begon looking around for fule distributors, just in case I need to > buy one to fix my D. Does anybody know the model distributor I need or > any other distributor that would work on the Delorean? it's not > urgent...yet...but I just want to get a feel for what's out there. I > know DMC Houston has them for $1000. Thanks for the help. > > Erik Geerdink > vin 4512 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > ------------------------------ message 3368 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3368 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:51:27 -0500 From: Mark Noeltner In-Reply-To: References: <7s9cp8$alh4@eGroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: engine additives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'll second this. All of the additives that are supposed to make a car last longer, or the oil more slippery are snake oil. There are some additives that will keep an engine that is on it's last legs on the road a bit longer. These are OK in the sense that they do what they advertise, but DON'T use them in an engine that is in good condition. Just changing the oil and the filter regularly will do your engine the most good. Mark N VIN 6820 At 03:16 PM 9/22/99 -0400, you wrote: >On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 rickaye@webtv.net wrote: > >> has anone tried to use a engine treatement to the engine in there DMC. > >I have written on the subject of oil additives quite frequently. You >might want to look in the archives. > >Anyway, the short answer is that an oil additive is just not going to do >your engine any good. If you want to do your engine a good thing, use >synthetic oil, or use regular oil and change it regularly. > > ------------------------------ message 3369 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3369 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:57:05 -0500 From: Mark Noeltner In-Reply-To: <000b01bf048e$a8a02d40$a5990cd1@scott> References: <19990920191447.JXKK17922@delorean> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Clutch not releasing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rust will do it. Usually it's rust on the input shaft of the transmission. My Ford tractor does this every spring. I usually do essentially what you did to release it. Just drive it regularly and the rust and the problem it caused will go away. If you plan on having it apart at any time smear a light coat of grease on the shaft in the area of the clutch and throwout bearing. Not too much or it could work it's way onto the clutch plate and cause problems. Mark N VIN 6820 At 07:08 PM 9/21/99 -0500, you wrote: >Thanks to all for your suggestions on solving the "stuck" clutch problem. > >As you may recall, it appeared that the clutch was not disengaging the >flywheel from the transmission. > >Now, I would like your input as to why the clutch would stick to the >flywheel and not release. >Scott >002981 ------------------------------ message 3370 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3370 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "James Fay" Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:38:54 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Delorean Article Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found this article last night and thought I'd post it. You can also find it at www.bttf.com. http://wire.nj.com/cgi-bin/nj_nview.pl?/home1/wire/AP/Stream-Parsed/JERSEY_NEWS/j0156_AM_NJ--DeLorean-Bankrupt ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ message 3371 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3371 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Greg Linstad Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:59:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Idler pulley bolts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In message #2956 DMC Joe said "CAUTION: Do not over tighten the pulley mounting bracket bolts, items #4." Amen, Joe. This is very true. A while back I was replacing the idler pulley bearing and upon reinstallation over tightened one of the bolts, stripping the threads (not a good thing). After calming down, I decided to re-tap the threads to a larger size and after carefully accomplishing this a larger bolt worked fine. I am now VERY careful with this and all other fasteners into the aluminum block. I later fabricated and installed a stainless steel plate as an extention to the muffler heat shield. It extends to the left (viewed from the rear of the car) past the lower pulley and protects it somewhat from excess muffler heat. This has greatly increased the life of that bearing. BTW, with over 116 thousand miles on VIN# 3507, I have replaced idler pulley bearings several times. The lower pulley bearing seems to fail more than the upper one which is why I added the extention to the heat shield. Once while returning from an overnight outing with several other DMC owners, the lower bearing froze up and the pulley broke loose, fell down onto the freeway, bounced up, and hit VIN# 2248's front facia damaging a parking/turn signal light. I didn't even notice or hear anything and # 2248 asked on the C.B. if I had hit or run over anything because when it hit him it made a terrible noise. Greg Linstad Pacific Northwest Delorean Club VIN# 3507 116,000+ miles Washington plate "RUSTLSS" "Well, my car still runs perfectly... just wanted to let everyone know" ------------------------------ message 3372 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3372 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: magriese@us.ibm.com Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 13:18:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: NCT Tires Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ryan wrote: >The original tires on the DeLorean were Goodyear NCTs. If memory serves, Goodyear stopped making that tire. Why exactly is this?< The short answer is 20 years of tire development. Goodyear still makes NCTs from time to time, usually not in the sizes we need for our cars. There are other Goodyear tires that are made in place of NCTs, (Eagles, etc), but they tend to be made in "modern" sizes - 15-17 inch wheels, low profile sidewalls, etc. Mike Griese Storage Software Development Manager IBM Storage Systems Division Rochester, MN 55901 Internet: magriese@us.ibm.com voice: (507)253-1853 fax: (507)253-2880 ------------------------------ message 3373 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3373 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Michael Babb" References: Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 19:55:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: JZD in the news Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01BF0534.5BF9D080" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BF0534.5BF9D080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Correct me if I am wrong, but I seam to remember an article with almost the= exact wording in the past? Is this a new development, or the reoccurance = of a past issue with DeLorean? Michael Babb ----- Original Message ----- = From: James Espey = To: dmcnews@egroups.com = Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 8:42 AM Subject: [DML] JZD in the news Tuesday September 21, 9:04 pm Eastern Time DeLorean Files for Bankruptcy NEWARK, N.J. (AP) -- Former automaker John Z. DeLorean was able to prevent the U.S. marshal's auction of his sprawling Bedminster estate by filing for bankruptcy protection. DeLorean, known for the stainless steel, gull-wing sports cars that bore his name, issued a statement that his Chapter 11 reorganization filing would allow him to develop his 434-acre Lamington Farm into two 18-hole golf courses and an equestrian center. He could not be reached for comment Tuesday. One of his chief creditors, his onetime lawyer Mayer Morganroth, told The Star-Ledger of Newark on Tuesday that the filing was an ``inappropriate'' ploy to buy time and would be challenged. A message left for Morganroth at his Michigan office was not immediately returned. He is trying to enforce a $7.5 million judgment against DeLorean for unpaid legal fees. DeLorean, 74, also owes about $11 million to Merrill Lynch Credit Corp. = ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address mode= rato-@dmcnews.com = ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BF0534.5BF9D080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Correct me if I am wrong, but I seam to remember an article with almos= t the = exact wording in the past?  Is this a new development, or the reoccura= nce = of a past issue with DeLorean?
 
Michael Babb
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 199= 9 8:42 = AM
Subject: [DML] JZD in the news 

Tuesday September 21, 9:04 pm Eastern Time

DeLorean Files for Bankruptcy

NEWARK, N.J. (AP) -- Former automaker John Z. DeLorean was able to prevent
the U.S. marshal's auction of
his sprawling Bedminster estate by filing for bankruptcy protection.

DeLorean, known for the stainless steel, gull-wing sports cars that bore
his name, issued a statement that his
Chapter 11 reorganization filing would allow him to develop his 434-acre
Lamington Farm into two 18-hole golf
courses and an equestrian center.

He could not be reached for comment Tuesday.

One of his chief creditors, his onetime lawyer Mayer Morganroth, told The
Star-Ledger of Newark on Tuesday that the filing was an ``inappropriate''
ploy to
buy time and would be challenged.

A message left for Morganroth at his Michigan office was not immediately
returned. He is trying to enforce a $7.5 million judgment against DeLorean
for
unpaid legal fees.

DeLorean, 74, also owes about $11 million to Merrill Lynch Credit Corp.
To address comments privately to the moderating team, pl= ease = address moderato-@dmcnews.com =
------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BF0534.5BF9D080-- ------------------------------ message 3374 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3374 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Mike03062@aol.com Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:46:00 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: JZD in the news Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd just like to say that a dozen years ago my business went sour and I lost a big lawsuit, which forced me into bankruptcy. I would not wish that on my worst enemy. Of course my debt had a few less zeros than Mr. DeLorean's, but it sure ain't no fun. Perhaps the best encouragement I got was from my lawyer who said "At least you took the risk, most folks will not." If you are reading this Mr. DeLorean, Thank-you for taking that risk. DMD in NH ------------------------------ message 3375 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3375 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 22:18:51 -0400 From: Nathan m Cameron MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7s9cp8$alh4@eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: engine additives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do not put Pro-Long in your motor unless you want to throw your money away. On the other hand, if you want an engine additive use Duralube. I dont have a Delorean but I use this product in my 88 toyota celica and I swear by it. You may remember it from the infomercial where they cut fluid lines, and dump rocks and sand in a Chrysler motor and it keeps going. (btw, Prolong declined when duralube wanted to take the "Prolong Challenge". To sum up the satisfaction, the engine is noticeably quieter, everything runs smoother, especially on the highway, and gas mileage increases about 3-5mpg. I have been using it for 2 years, and my car has even stopped burning oil! Not to mention that usually, you can hear some rough running as soon as you start your car until the oil circulates..well, this does not happen for me when I use Duralube. PS: Everyone I know who uses it loves it too! Nate Cameron ------------------------------ message 3376 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3376 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "SweatyEddy" References: Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:10:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: engine additives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I disagree with some parts of this statement, being a pharmaceutical chemist for 10+ years I have some background in organic chemistry. Let's not kid ourselves, the bottom line with the oil companies is the almighty dollar. They are just as concerned with what distillation by-products they can dump off in their products as what they are trying to keep out of it, the gas you buy at the pump is a prime example of this. Although companies that produce additives don't have the budgets of the large oil companies they have still done some respectable research. Sure, there are some garbage products out there but I wouldn't condemn the whole industry especially in light of the "wonderful" oil companies. -SweatyEddy ----- Original Message ----- From: William T Wilson To: Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 7:16 PM Subject: [DML] Re: engine additives > On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 rickaye@webtv.net wrote: > > > has anone tried to use a engine treatement to the engine in there DMC. > > I have written on the subject of oil additives quite frequently. You > might want to look in the archives. > > Anyway, the short answer is that an oil additive is just not going to do > your engine any good. If you want to do your engine a good thing, use > synthetic oil, or use regular oil and change it regularly. > > The basic reason for this is that the oil companies invest more money into > R&D on their oil than the additive makers' whole company is worth. If > there is some miracle ingredient that makes oil better, the oil makers > would be using it already. Yet none of the reputable oil makers > manufactures any additives - they don't even have any third party > additives that they recommend. To compound things, oil is a very complex > set of chemicals. Every oil is a little different, even though most of > them are fairly similar, none are identical. The additive makers don't > even know what sort of chemistry their product will be going in. > > Fuel treatments are typically in the same boat, except for fuel treatments > that perform a specific task (stabilizer, injector cleaner, whatever - > these are frequently, but not always, good at what they do). > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > > ------------------------------ message 3377 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3377 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: LHEMB@aol.com Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:06:45 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: windex?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have had my D for ten years and have used Windex on the exterior SS finish regularly with no apparent damage. My D gets dusty in the garage between outings and the Windex is a quick cleaner upper. Brian in Fla. - VIN 5830 ------------------------------ message 3378 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3378 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:16:45 -0700 From: hobiedmc@hotmail.com Subject: [DML] Power to Fuel pump??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone, I own a 81 DeLorean that needs quite a bit of work. Currently my mechanic is stomped as he need to get power to the fuel pump and he doesn't know how. Can anyone help? Terri ------------------------------ message 3379 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3379 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: CBL302@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:42:27 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Gas Mask Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/17/99 8:07:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DMCJOE@att.net writes: << There are no hollow voids in the front GRP (pontoon) body section. There are, however, >> There are hollow voids in the front pontoon body,they run the length of the fenders both sides,on the drivers side the wiring harness for the headlights, radiator fans,ect run thru the hollow area,on the passenger side it is just hollow unfortunately the top of the fender covers the area that is hollow it is about two inches high about 1 1/2 wide DO NOT CUT the inside of the trunk (The areas where the struts bolts on to)that only abutts the inner fender panel there is no void there,there is also a smaller hollow which is the lip that surrounds the complete trunk area(it keeps rain water that passes the trunk seal from getting into the trunk) there is no way to remove anything that got in there,and structurally you would damage the pontoon. Claude Vin#000570 ------------------------------ message 3380 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3380 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 21:59:02 -0700 From: hobiedmc@hotmail.com Subject: [DML] Replacement Tires for the Originals? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The original tires for the DMC are Goodyear NCT 195/60HR14 (front) and Goodyear Eagle GT 245/60R15. I've been unsuccessful in trying to find exact replacements of the originals. I've been able to locate another brand of tires for the front that are H rated. However, it's been a challenge to locate replacement tires for the rear that has the same speed rating. Is having a different speed rating (front and rear) a problem? Should I go with a different size tires to have match up the speed rating on the tires? What would you guys recommend as replacements tires? I would prefer to get the originals if that was possible. Terri ------------------------------ message 3381 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3381 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "doctor280" References: <49e528bf.2518187b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 01:25:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Driver's door does not latch Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01BF0562.97AB8F00" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BF0562.97AB8F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Darren wrote: > Okay, I guess I left that bit of info out. Yes, my D does have the big = > chunks of stainless, aka door guides. There is not a clunking sound of t= he = > door pin hitting the door guides, so I feel that the door has at least de= cent = > alignment. It looks closed when depressed, unlike my passenger side door= . I = > can put all my weight on the drivers door, and the latches will not catch= . = > DMCJoe says he has the answer, I will contact you as soon as I can. If I= = > left out any other info, please let me know. = > = > Thank you, > Darren Decker = > #5000 The fix to Darren's door not latching was a simple cable adjustment. The ex= terior door handle has a cable attached to it, which is intern attach to ce= ntral arm that controls the latches. His Delorean has the metal upgraded ex= terior handle, but who ever installed it did not properly adjust it. To get to the adjustment, remove the upper door panel and mid way down the = door it will be staring you in the face. His door will now stay latched as designed and he will not be falling out a= ny time soon. So, as Joe has said, "The original system is an excellent design and the h= ardware never seems to wear out. Door latch problems usually don't start by= themselves. Inexperienced hands are usually the culprit." = Drive your dream and everyone be safe, = Robert Starling Vin#5252 = ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BF0562.97AB8F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
 
Darren wrote:
> Okay, I guess I left that bit of info out.  Y= es, my = D does have the big
> chunks of stainless, aka door guides.  Th= ere = is not a clunking sound of the
> door pin hitting the door guides, s= o I = feel that the door has at least decent
> alignment.  It looks c= losed = when depressed, unlike my passenger side door.  I
> can put all= my = weight on the drivers door, and the latches will not catch. 
> = DMCJoe says he has the answer, I will contact you as soon as I can.  I= f I =
> left out any other info, please let me know.
>
> Tha= nk = you,
> Darren Decker
> #5000
The fix to Darren's door not latching was a simple cabl= e = adjustment. The exterior door handle has a cable attached to it, which is i= ntern = attach to central arm that controls the latches. His Delorean has the metal= = upgraded exterior handle, but who ever installed it did not properly adjust= = it.
 
To get to the adjustment, remove the upper door panel a= nd mid = way down the door it will be staring you in the face.
 
His door will now stay latched as designed and he will = not be = falling out any time soon.
 
 So, as Joe has said, "The original system is an = excellent design and the hardware never seems to wear out. Door latch probl= ems = usually don't start by themselves. Inexperienced hands are usually the culp= rit." =

Drive your dream and everyone be safe,
Robert Starling
Vin#5252  
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BF0562.97AB8F00-- ------------------------------ message 3382 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3382 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "King, Bob" Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:05:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] alarm/door lights/interesting occurance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (Moderator- sorry for the length of this posting. I understand if you disallow it. I felt I needed the length to illustrate the story I was trying to tell. -Bob) I am offering up the following as an 'experience' I have recently had with my DeLorean while having an alarm installed. Feel free to analyze the situation. Maybe you can get some enlightening info out of it about door lights and alarms, and maybe you can help me get my driver's side door lights to come on! I recently got my DMC-12 and realized that the door lights on either door did not come on. I put this on the low-priority list of things to do because it doesn't have anything to do with actually operating the vehicle. (Can you get a 'fix-it' ticket from the police for not having properly working door lights? Hmmmm.....) Anyway, I figured the bulbs were burnt out. Today, I had a CODE alarm installed, and I noticed that after installation was completed by the shop, all 3 door lights on the passenger side worked. I also noticed that the alarm did not work on the driver's side door... I also noticed that now, not only did the passenger door lights work, but they NEVER shut off. (I could tell because they were VERY hot by the time I noticed them, and they didn't shut off at the last second before I closed the door ...something like a refrigerator light) Both of these problems were fixed. It appears that the little 'push peg' (for lack of a better term) on the dash/console near the hinge of the drivers door never touched the activating plate located on the door that it is supposed to touch. Sorry for the lack of technical terms, but basically, the door part of car alarms are hooked up to a little peg mechanism on the console near the door hinge that depresses when the door is closed and releases when the door is opened. The initial intent of these pegs is to turn on and off interior lights in the car when the door opens/closes. Apparently, my peg never touched the door, because it was missing it's mark by a good half inch or so. This peg misalignment caused the passenger door lights to stay on permanently and the alarm to not go off when the driver's door opened. I suppose this could have been caused by the door shifting, but it seems to be aligned very well. This problem was fixed by adding a small piece of hard rubber to the part of the door where the activation peg was hitting (or missing, as the case may be). This rubber piece was cut from some excess rubber found at the alarm store was affixed to the door securely with extra strength double sided foam tape so that it would depress the pin but not touch the gasket along the front of the door opening. Now, the driver's door/alarm works, and the passenger door lights go out, because the pin is properly depressed. However, the driver's door lights still do not work. I have no idea what was done electrically during the installation to make the passenger door lights come on, but if anyone knows a way to get these lights to come on, please let me know. Something I did notice during all of this is that there are supposed to be 2 of those 'push pegs' at the driver's door hinge, an upper and a lower. I am missing the lower one. What function does this lower peg serve? Bob ------------------------------ message 3383 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3383 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:53:17 +1000 From: Lance R Haslewood Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] HOW MANY 'Ds' ARE ACTUALLY IN AUSTRALIA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Gregory M Scalia =20 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 23:31:12 +1000=20 MIME-Version: 1.0=20 Subject: [DML] How many D's are actually in Australia=20 Lance and friends I have 4162, there is one for sale in Perth, there is one in a museum in Ad= =3D=20 elaide, I hear there is another one coming to Brisbane from LA, there is M= =3D=20 r Junin's mentioned below...that makes 5 or so. Are ther any more know down under? Greg Scalia Greg, I think there are about 11 DeLoreans in Australia.=A0 Here's a breakdown as= per my records: Queensland - two New South Wales - three Victoria - three South Australia - one Western Australia - two. The South Australian DeLorean is owned by a person from the Northern= Territory and is on loan to the National Auto Museum at Birdwood (north of Adelaide). A Western Australian owner has two, one of which is insitu in Melbourne and the other is in WA.=A0 This particular owner has an original right-hand drive= and so do I.=A0 Mine is a Eurospec model.=A0 I'm not sure about his.=A0 If you= contact me directly, I'll pass onto you the name of the West Australian owner. One of the NSW 'Ds' is undergoing restoration and probably won't be= roadworthy for quite some time. In addition to the above, Pepsi Australia (in 1986) made available a right-hand DeLorean as a prize in a competition to launch Back To The Future into Australian cinemas.=A0 The winner and location of the car, which displayed distinctive =91PEPSI=92 licence plates is unknown. Please give me a call on 0414 295 888 (mobile) or 02 9840 8409 (BUS) and perhaps we can arrange a get together. Lance Sydney =20 ------------------------------ message 3384 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3384 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DeLorean31@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:27:25 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] NJ and PA Events this weekend Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings, There are some events coming up this weekend and in the next couple weeks as well where some of our members are planning to attend. This Sunday September 26th is the Fall Englishtown Show in Englishtown, NJ. I believe two or three of our members will be attending with their D's Also the same weekend is the English Car Day at Graeme Park in Horshan, PA on Saturday September 25th. Adlo and Joe Pippell are planning on attending this show. Next Thursday there is the final Cruise Night in Freehold NJ. Hopefully a few of us can make it to that event as well. I believe Aldo is planning on attending. Finally keep your calendar marked for October 17th as this is going to be the date for our Fall Social. We will be having our social at the Cranberry Festival in Chatsworth, NJ They have a car show in conjunction with this event where we can show our cars. Should be a great day. For more information on all these events check my Events Web Page. The link is below. Hope to see many of you at the Social and some other evets as well. Gary Gore Activites Director DeLorean Mid Atlantic DeLorean Data Bank DMA ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- View the full archives, subscribe/unsubscribe, use the group calendar at http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews Manage your subscriptions at http://eGroups.com Free e-mail groups by eGroups.com. 
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