From: eGroups Digest [dmcnews@egroups.com] Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 10:48 AM To: David.Swingle Subject: dmcnews digest eGroups Daily Digest: dmcnews has 52 new messages. Click here http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3115 to read them. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 3115. Blade Runner Re: Universal Studios Back to the Future DMC 3116. DMC Joe Re: Location of Fan Relays 3117. delorean502@excite.com hoses 3118. Iznodmad@aol.com Re: EXCELLENT !, EXCELLENT !, EXCELLENT ! 3119. forklift-jihad@excite.com DMC-80 pics in vault 3120. Brian Henderlong Yellow DMC pic 3121. AJL521@aol.com Re: 350 in a D? 3122. Murray Fisher Oil Filter 3123. delorean502@excite.com dmc mechanic 3124. Greg Guillot Stubborn fitting on accumulator 3125. Charles Major Fuel tank mess 3126. DMCVegas@worldnet.att.net Owners check list, not for the car, but you! 3127. DMCVegas@worldnet.att.net Clearing a few things up... 3128. MDinu89900@aol.com Weak battery 3129. doctor280 Fiberglass Headliners 3130. DMC Joe Re: A/C Fan switch problem 3131. Hal Palmer Air conditioning Charge 3132. CBL302@aol.com Re: Aftermarket steering wheels 3133. rdh@hozt.com Re: Aftermarket steering wheels 3134. CBL302@aol.com Re: 350 in a D? 3135. raddad@cmn.net Engine Fires 3136. Delorean17@aol.com DeLorean dealers 3137. William T Wilson Re: Clearing a few things up... 3138. derek osborn vault??? 3139. Travis Graham Re: DMC-80 pics in vault 3140. Hart, Paul Re: 350 in a D? 3141. Richard Strecker Re: Stubborn fitting on accumulator 3142. James Espey Re: Clearing a few things up... 3143. Police6627@aol.com Re: Engine Fires 3144. dtwelves@hotmail.com Museum 3145. Police6627@aol.com Re: Engine Fires 3146. Luke.Sandel@cmich.edu Happy fun fuel filter 3147. Robert Carl Ensfield Re: dmc mechanic 3148. delorean502@excite.com Re: Owners check list, not for the car, but you! 3149. Jesse D. Sightler Car shipment from California... 3150. rjm@lrbcg.com Re: Stubborn fitting on accumulator 3151. Mark Noeltner Re: Engine Fires 3152. Mark Noeltner Autocross in St. Louis the weekend of the Expo 3153. doctor280 Re: Oil Filter 3154. KKoncelik@aol.com Re: dmc mechanic 3155. Gus Schlachter Re: FW: Door Latches 3156. DMC Joe SEDOC CRUISE-IN UP-DATE. 3157. DMC Joe Re: Happy fun fuel filter 3158. Jesse D. Sightler Re: Air conditioning Charge 3159. DeLorean31@aol.com Re: Clearing a few things up... 3160. juffo7@hotmail.com Talking D! 3161. DMC Joe Re: Fuel tank mess 3162. DMC Joe Re: Weak battery 3163. DMC Joe Re: hoses 3164. DMC Joe Re: Oil Filter 3165. Mike03062@aol.com Re: DeLorean dealers 3166. raddad@cmn.net Gas Mask ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 3115 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3115 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Blade Runner" Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:42:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Universal Studios Back to the Future DMC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found the same thing when my wife and I went to Florida in 1997. The car was in the backlot area and we wereallowed full access to photograph it. Our website has some of the pictures we took. You can see it at: www.geocities.com/rodeodrive/8601/delorean.html Happy surfing, Jack Stiefel Vin 3461 -----Original Message----- From: The Haney's To: dmcnews@egroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 6:10 PM Subject: [DML] Universal Studios Back to the Future DMC >I was on vaction in Florida in August and Universal Studios had 1 of the Back-To-The-Future cars >out for pictures. Boy what a sad sight. >Huge eye-brows, the interior had turned from gray to brown and all the molding outside was >falling apart. I couldn't even see the point of taking my picture with it. > >Just thought you would like to know. >Keep up the good work moderators. > >eGroups Digest wrote: > >> eGroups Daily Digest: dmcnews has 95 new messages. >> Click here http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2938 to read them. > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > ------------------------------ message 3116 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3116 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:04:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Location of Fan Relays Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit While looking down into the relay compartment the 3rd speed relay is 3rd from the right lower row and the 4th speed relay is to it's left in the 4th position. Let me know the result of your fuel pump lamp test. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ------------------------------ message 3117 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3117 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:23:28 -0700 From: delorean502@excite.com Subject: [DML] hoses Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit could someone tell me how many hoses I need for the fuel system. and which ones i need. I know DMC houston and PJ grady have them, but which ones do I need? thanks erik geerdink ------------------------------ message 3118 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3118 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Iznodmad@aol.com Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:29:31 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: EXCELLENT !, EXCELLENT !, EXCELLENT ! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear DML, I must also agree with Robert Starling concerning his comments, and I fully support him. For the record, I am one of the two owners he helps on a regular basis. Without him, I would probably be fed up enough with my D by now to sell it. However I fully trust him and his ability to work on the car. I have learned a lot about the car from him and how to care for it. So a big THANK YOU goes out to Rob from me, and my D car thanks him too! Regards, Darren Decker #5000 ------------------------------ message 3119 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3119 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:32:58 -0700 From: forklift-jihad@excite.com In-Reply-To: <199909130708.AAA15687@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Subject: [DML] DMC-80 pics in vault Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I have been looking for a picture of the DMC-80, the bus. I saw one on > a website along time ago but I can not seem to find it anymore. A great site posted these pictures of an early brochure for the bus, but unfortunately that page is gone now (I am fairly sure). There was some discussion about this quite a while ago, and to the best of my knowledge these pictures are actually composites of an existing European bus with the DMC-80 logo. This is one of DeLorean's "side" projects that never got very far, along with the DMC-24 and DMC-44, as it was funded by the NIDA money meant for the DMC-12, and DeLorean was kindly asked more than once to drop the project in order to streamline expenses. The brochure struck me as interesting, so I saved these images on a zip disk when I first saw them. I have posted them in the vault, in the "DMC-80" folder. --Mike Campbell No Vin yet ------------------------------ message 3120 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3120 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:09:58 -0400 From: Brian Henderlong Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Yellow DMC pic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm pleased to announce the addition of George Ryerson's yellow '83 to the stable featured at my Painted DeLoreans website! The URL is at the end of my tagline. Enjoy! And thanks, George! Brian Henderlong / Tampa, FL / DOA# 4977 / No VIN yet... mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm ------------------------------ message 3121 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3121 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 07:37:14 -0700 From: AJL521@aol.com In-Reply-To: <007001beffe8$f5fac320$d8cac9cf@mobis.com.mobis.com> Subject: [DML] Re: 350 in a D? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ajl52-@aol.com wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=3103 With all the different versions of the Chevy 350, a person thinking of an engine swap, could be thinking of something as expensive, fast, and complex as a corvette LT1 motor. Or they could be thinking of something as cheep, simple and reliable as a 350 from a 1975 Caprice. The thought of a nice simple engine mounted fuel pump, rochester quadrajet carb, and a simple ignition system sound like a real nice idea. Just think, you would never have to worry about tank mounted fuel pumps, $800 fuel distributors and failing accumulators ever again. Just an idea Andrew 4194 PS: I remember reading one time that Don at Delorean Motor Center had an adapter kit to install a 3.8 V6, or a 350 V8 in a D. Does anyone know if these are still available and at what cost ------------------------------ message 3122 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3122 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Murray Fisher" Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 06:24:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Oil Filter Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0064_01BF000C.31E8A140" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01BF000C.31E8A140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I see that the original Oil Filter was a PURFLUX Part No. LS410-A. Does a= nyone know if this is still available or what is a replacement, if not. I = am due for an oil change. My car has 6K miles on it now. I changed it at = 3K miles when I got it. What weight should I use. I would prefer a direct= replacement with no adapters unless absolutely necessary. DeLorean World = Vol-7 #1 has a comparison article on this filter versus the Fram. Murray Vin: 5962 Lic: DMC-XII Washington State ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01BF000C.31E8A140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
I see that the original Oil Filter was a PU= RFLUX = Part No. LS410-A.   Does anyone know if this is still available o= r = what is a replacement, if not.  I am due for an oil change.  My c= ar = has 6K miles on it now.  I changed it at 3K miles when I got it. = What = weight should I use.  I would prefer a direct replacement with no adap= ters = unless absolutely necessary.  DeLorean World Vol-7 #1 has a comparison= = article on this filter versus the Fram.
 
Murray
Vin: 5962 Lic: DMC-XII
Washington State
 
------=_NextPart_000_0064_01BF000C.31E8A140-- ------------------------------ message 3123 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3123 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 06:17:56 -0700 From: delorean502@excite.com Subject: [DML] dmc mechanic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit well, I talked with my "local" Volvo dealer....they don't touch Deloreans! Could someone give me a good name of someone who works on Deloreans in the West Michigan area? Dan Pfeifer was the original seller of the D, but I'm not sure if they service them or not still. any help would be GREAT. 4512 is tired of spitting gas. erik geerdink ------------------------------ message 3124 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3124 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 8:10:20 -0600 From: Greg Guillot MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Stubborn fitting on accumulator Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone, While using some of the excellent advice in the archives regarding replacing the fuel accumulator, I have run into a frustrating problem - I can't get the metal line to release from the accumulator. I can turn the accumulator freely, but I can't seem to apply enough force to pull the line out. (Yes, I have loosened and pushed the fitting out of the way.) Is the metal line flanged at the end? I don't want to gouge the brass ferrule and have to replace it which would mean having the end of the line reflanged. Anybody else run into this problem? Thanks, Greg Guillot VIN #2926 ************************************************ Morial Convention Center - New Orleans Greg Guillot, Director of Info Systems & Services 900 Convention Center Blvd,New Orleans, LA 70130 Phone (504) 582-3116,Fax (504) 582-3104 Email gguillot@mccno.com ************************************************ ------------------------------ message 3125 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3125 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Charles Major" Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 05:42:07 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Fuel tank mess Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK, I got the tank clean, replaced all rubber and the pump. I see some mess in the metal lines, is there a way to blow them out? could I take off the filter or would the accumulator be distroyed? Before I cleaned the tank the car started to smoke (very black), someone said could be a stuck fuel distrubitor and that I could unstick it myself how's that? Charles ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ message 3126 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3126 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 01:35:27 -0700 From: DMCVegas@worldnet.att.net Subject: [DML] Owners check list, not for the car, but you! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Over time, alot has been posted about what to look for when purchasing a DeLorean, mechanical problems, isurance costs, operation costs, rust, etc, etc... But there is one thing that is commonly overlooked, not operation, but ownership. Yes the issue of maintenance has been talked about before, "If you can't afford to or don't want to do it, then don't buy a D". And yes the DeLorean has it's quriks, and it's problems as well. You can look at these as either nussancies, or even little "calls for attention", it's up to you. Yes there are the little things like the special oil drain plug tool, or even trying to fill the washer fliud resivoir, etc. But these are all things that have to do with the car itself. Other things such as the "Fuel Injection System Safety" issue, I would have to agree are probably problemed in most all cases by operator error. I can't truly think of any way to put this gently, so I'll be frank about. Weather your a do-it-yourself guy or gal, or even a garage mechanic, you should always be open to both critcisim and advice, but not even that means that the feed back that you will always be correct, informative or even complete for that matter. In that case, a little independent studying and reading of books and manuals never hurts at all to get the facts straight! Most importantly: Will you drive the car, or will the car drive you? In other words if the car has to adapt to your standards and expectations (i.e. operation, performance, ease of maintenance, appearance, and overall appeal), than a DeLorean is not a car for you. Yes most owners would agree that a little more power wouldn't hurt, but a major modification such as an engine/transmission swap IS IN NO WAY A SOLUTION. If you'd like to go 150-200 mph+, then that's your bussiness, please, go right ahead, thats ok! But for this purpose alone, spend the money a on a new European import that was designed originaly for that purpose rather than on some fancy engine swap for a D. If you want a blue or purple DeLorean, then please buy a painted car and have it repainted in turn, don't paint an unpainted car. Feel that a D is too much of a problem to service yourself, take it to a mechanic, if none are available, or your don't want to, then I have no idea as to what to tell you except either be patient, or sell it to someone else. Unsure about the car in any way, don't buy one! Finaly, DO NOT buy a DeLorean as an investment because you won't make a profit, or at least one that would make it worthwhile! A DeLorean's value is not measured monetarily (sp), but rather emotionaly. No amount of money can buy the feeling that you get starting your car in the garage, opening the doors in public, crusing down the street and having everyone look at you all at once, or even putting apart of yourself some where in the car (signing the "cave paintings" or finally getting that clock to work!). I hope that all of this helps you the reader to understand a little more, and maybe even stirs some emotions in you! -Robert ------------------------------ message 3127 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3127 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:53:08 -0700 From: DMCVegas@worldnet.att.net Subject: [DML] Clearing a few things up... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, I'm writing this letter just to clear a few "rumour problems" that I've heard about. 1. I was told that on some of the early '81 models (mainly w/black intieriors) the bolt holes for the struts were drilled too far up on the doors, this inturn caused the struts to place pressure on the center of the doors roofs and thus forced them to "bow out". 2. The PRV-6 is prone to warped head gaskets with age, thus most D's are now having this problem, and if not, are likely to incur it some time soon. Normaly I am skeptical about comments like these, but both came directly from TWO MAJOR PARTS SUPPLIERS & SERVICE CENTRES. 3. The spare tire only holds air for about 2 weeks, then goes flat, why exactly is this? Is it a problem with the original tire in place, or is it with the rim itself? (disscussed before on the list, a matching car tire is a '71 or '72 Vega, perfect as a spare or for winter storage) In Las Vegas there is ALOT of construction going on (nails on the road), and EVERY car we've owned has gotten at least 1 flat at some time! 4. Finally, Is JZD going to be a Grandfather soon? I was contacted by someone claiming to be Kathryn, who says that she is raising money for her father's new company, and her soon-to-be-born child. I know that there are some "lurkers" out there on the list that monitor what goes on for JZD. Maybe someone could shed a little light on the subject? (either publicly or privately) Thanks for everything, and keep in mind... 1,2,& 4 are only rumours, not proven truths yet. Thanks again! -Robert ------------------------------ message 3128 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3128 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: MDinu89900@aol.com Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 02:31:24 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Weak battery Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whenever my car sits without being driven for approximately two weeks and I go out to start it, it turns over to the point where it just gets enough juice to start or it fails to start until I let it sit for a minute or so. Once I drive it around, it get charged up enough to start with no problem. Absent replacing the battery (which I may do anyway) and the other obvious choice (drive it more often!), is there something that can be continuously draining my battery? I seem to recall something on the list about disconnecting something because of a drain on the battery but can't remember what. Thanks Mark D. 16728 ------------------------------ message 3129 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3129 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "doctor280" Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 01:57:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Fiberglass Headliners Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01BEFFE6.D8DD5F20" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01BEFFE6.D8DD5F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I would like to thank Rob Grady for creating the fiberglass backing for the= Delorean headliners. They work great and with their construction should la= st forever. Anyone out there who is going to have their headliners redone, I would stro= ngly recommend sending a little extra money and get the ones from PJ Grady. Driving the Dream, Robert Starling Vin#5252 PS: I did have an upholstery shop install my headliners, as I do not have a= ny knowledge on how to do this type of work. = ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01BEFFE6.D8DD5F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
I would like to thank Rob Grady for creating the fiberg= lass = backing for the Delorean headliners. They work great and with their constru= ction = should last forever.
 
Anyone out there who is going to have their headliners = redone, = I would strongly recommend sending a little extra money and get the on= es = from PJ Grady.
 
Driving the Dream,
Robert Starling
Vin#5252
 
PS: I did have an upholstery shop install my headl= iners, = as I do not have any knowledge on how to do this type of work. =   
------=_NextPart_000_0049_01BEFFE6.D8DD5F20-- ------------------------------ message 3130 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3130 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:32:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: A/C Fan switch problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The problem is in the switching circuits. Start by inspecting the wiring leading to the motor and make sure that everything is connected, no loose wires. From your description it sounds as if someone has modified your fan speed wiring. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: Jim > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] A/C Fan switch problem > Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 9:14 PM > > Either the Fan is on or off no in between speeds. Is this the switch or > a problem with the fan motor? > > Jim ------------------------------ message 3131 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3131 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Hal Palmer" Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:57:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Air conditioning Charge Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0062_01BEFFC5.42AE1E20" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01BEFFC5.42AE1E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Last year when I was in Palm Springs, Ca. the air conditioning on my D fail= ed to blow cold so I took it in to a shop that specializes in air service. = He advised me to let him convert the system to an approved refrigerant. Not= being an air conditioning expert I took his advice. It worked fine until t= his summer when again it needed service at my home in Washington State. I d= iscovered he used a refrigerant called Freeze 12. (not freon) Now I cant fi= nd anyone in the area to service it. Was advised it would cost about $300 t= o convert it back. Anyone have any thought's or advice?? Thanks ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01BEFFC5.42AE1E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Last year when I was in Palm Springs, Ca. the air condi= tioning = on my D failed to blow cold so I took it in to a shop that specializes in a= ir = service. He advised me to let him convert the system to an approved refrige= rant. = Not being an air conditioning expert I took his advice. It worked fine unti= l = this summer when again it needed service at my home in Washington State. I = discovered he used a refrigerant called Freeze 12. (not freon) Now I cant f= ind = anyone in the area to service it. Was advised it would cost about $300 to = convert it back. Anyone have any thought's or advice?? = Thanks
------=_NextPart_000_0062_01BEFFC5.42AE1E20-- ------------------------------ message 3132 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3132 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: CBL302@aol.com Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 00:46:50 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/15/99 10:59:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mnoeltne@ezl.com writes: << You sound the horn by pushing the turn signal stalk in towards the steering column. I've seen other cars with this arrangement, so the D isn't unique in this respect. >> Came directly off the Lotus Esprit! Claude 6383 ------------------------------ message 3133 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3133 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:13:59 -0700 From: rdh@hozt.com In-Reply-To: <199909131247.GAA02689@cmn.net> Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit rdh@hozt.com wrote: The illustrated DeLorean World article that Dick is referring to is Volume 6 No. 3, Spring 1989. Also in the same issue is an illustrated article on the installation of a Cruise Control on a DeLorean. The Past Issues index for DeLorean World is located on the Association web site at: http://www.delorean-owners.org/dw/index.html Click on Past Issues or go directly to the 1989 issue at: http://www.delorean-owners.org/dw/89-90.html Association members may order all past issues of DeLorean World in the DeLorean Store located at: http://www.deloreanstore.com/ By the way, I have the pleasure of owning the '83 DeLorean which has this 'removable steering wheel' and the cruise control that were featured in the referenced articles, as well as a transmission oil cooler and stainless steel performance muffler that were featured in other articles in DeLorean World. The steering is a three spoke leather covered wheel very similar to the DeLorean stock wheel, except it has a flatter hub. It has a key lock which allows it to be removed (although I have only had it off one time since I hae owned the car for over 5 years. Grant is building a website at: http://www2.grantproducts.com/grantproducts/ Ray Haug Internet Director DeLorean Owners Association original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=3002 > A very old issue of the DeLorean World had pictures of a DeLorean with an > aftermarket steering wheel. In fact, I believe it was "detachable" as a > further guard against theft of the car (that was back in the days when we > owners actually thought a self-respecting thief would steal a DeLorean). > > Due to remodeling, my DeLorean Worlds are not readily accessible now, but > perhaps someone with a lot of time on their hands might want to research > this. > > Dick Ryan > VIN 16867 > > ------------------------------ message 3134 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3134 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: CBL302@aol.com Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 00:37:20 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: 350 in a D? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/15/99 8:55:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Myers23@webtv.net writes: << There is nothing easy about working on this car!!!!! sincerely R.M. >> Actually you are right on some parts,the wiring is typical 80's British,but from a mechanical standpoint it is relatively simple compared to the year 2000 cars,if you have any decent mechanical abilities,any DIY's with a DECENT set of metric tools could work on the mechanical parts on the Delorean. Claude Vin#06383 ------------------------------ message 3135 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3135 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:44:37 -0600 (MDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 From: raddad@cmn.net Subject: [DML] Engine Fires Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For some reason people always seem to think that if one person is right, then others with a different point of view must be wrong. How narrow! The question has come up that if the fuel system of the DeLorean is a "problem" that contributes to engine fires, why haven't other cars with this same system had similar results. I contend that it has to do with the demise of the DeLorean Motor Company. Let me explain. People who bought Mercedes with the same system have, for the most part, gone back to Mercedes dealers and mechanics for service. Those folks know how to repair the systems properly. When DeLorean went belly-up, many dealers didn't even want to mess with the cars they sold. At that point there wasn't any good technical information exchange like we now have. So, the cars were taken to mechanics who were unfamiliar with the quirks of the DeLorean or the cars were worked on by the owners. Now, there is nothing wrong with an owner mechanic, but I suspect many of these were doing their own work out of sheer frustration, and with less than adequate training or advice. Bottom line - I still feel that the primary cause of these fires was improper maintenance. If that were not the case, wouldn't we have seen similar situations on other cars using the same or similar set-ups? Living in the boonies, as I do, I have taken my car to ASE certified mechanics who have, on occasion, done some pretty weird things to the car - all with the best of intentions. Now, when I have to go to a "non-DeLorean" repair facility, I take my manuals, I call one of the DML "experts" and I research the archive before I go in. I print off anything that I feel will make the mechanic more competent. I go over these with him before I leave the car. If he is too busy to be bothered, the car comes away with me. I do not believe that the DML is burying it's head in the sand. At the same time, I concur that a different placement for some of the components in the engine compartment might have made sense. But, to this layman's eye, this is much different and more complicated that Tankzilla's, Lockzilla's and the like. Let's just make sure that anyone who messes around in that section of the engine compartment knows what they are doing and the potential consequences of sloppy work. And, yes, I do carry a fire extinguisher. To me that is a necessary as a spare tire. I apologize in advance if the tone of this sounded like a lecture. Dick Ryan VIN 16867 ------------------------------ message 3136 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3136 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Delorean17@aol.com Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:19:13 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DeLorean dealers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello List, I am doing a report on the DeLorean and was wondering who they were sold through. The local Plymouth dealer used to sell them here in Grand Rapids Michigan. Were they only sold through one company? was there a "DeLorean only" dealership? any info would be appreciated! If there is anyone in the Grand Rapids Michigan area with a DeLorean that would be willing to let me check it out I would be VERY happy. The only ones I have seen are either indoors or under a cover. Thanks for your time David Phelps http://www.delorean.cjb.net ------------------------------ message 3137 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3137 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:11:16 -0400 (EDT) From: William T Wilson In-Reply-To: <7rq44k$1f06@eGroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Clearing a few things up... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 DMCVegas@worldnet.att.net wrote: > 2. The PRV-6 is prone to warped head gaskets with age, thus most D's > are now having this problem, and if not, are likely to incur it some > time soon. This is not the case. The PRV-6 can get warped heads if you aren't careful when you remove and install them. However you almost never need to remove the heads on the PRV-6, so this is not a common problem. Sometimes they leak with age (gaskets do that) but even that is not usually a major problem. I've never heard of a "warped head gasket." :} > 3. The spare tire only holds air for about 2 weeks, then goes flat, why > exactly is this? Is it a problem with the original tire in place, or is I've never seen a donut spare which held the proper amount of pressure. If you want to be super safe you should carry an air pump, but a AAA card is lighter and smaller. :} ------------------------------ message 3138 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3138 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:22:15 -0700 (PDT) From: derek osborn MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] vault??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this may seem like a stupid question.....but what is this vault that i've been hearing so much about???? i clicked on the links, but i asks me for a username and password. am i missing something here??? i'd really like to see some of the pics. derek 1971 Pontiac GTO ***1981 DeLorean in my dreams*** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ message 3139 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3139 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Travis Graham" Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:09:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7rr2ja$c4cp@eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: DMC-80 pics in vault Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Mike, These look like the photos on my site. Bruce Benson contributed these photos long ago when we discussed the DMC-80 on the DML. The photos are also at http://www.delorean.org/tgraham/dmc80.htm. They're pretty large, but worth a look. If it was my website that you were thinking of: my site is still around...in fact, cars.com just did a review of it. Travis Graham http://www.delorean.org/tgraham -----Original Message----- From: forklift-jihad@excite.com [mailto:forklift-jihad@excite.com] A great site posted these pictures of an early brochure for the bus, but unfortunately that page is gone now (I am fairly sure). There was some discussion about this quite a while ago, and to the best of my knowledge these pictures are actually composites of an existing European bus with the DMC-80 logo. This is one of DeLorean's "side" projects that never got very far, along with the DMC-24 and DMC-44, as it was funded by the NIDA money meant for the DMC-12, and DeLorean was kindly asked more than once to drop the project in order to streamline expenses. ------------------------------ message 3140 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3140 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Hart, Paul" Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:44:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: 350 in a D? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am a GM fan. Yet I would have to say that even though all this might be possible, you wouldn't go too far on a tank of gas. I am also the 2nd owner of a 1974 Stingray show-car (67,000+ miles) that shares daily driver duty with my 81 D (5,011 miles). The Vette only gets 10.13 mpg with the L82 engine and Quad4, while the D is providing 19.37 during my 3 weeks of ownership. (DRIVE EM !! that's what insurance is for). Sincerely Paul #2839 - "Hart DMC" ---------- From: AJL521@aol.com [SMTP:AJL521@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 7:37 AM To: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: 350 in a D? ajl52-@aol.com wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=3103 With all the different versions of the Chevy 350, a person thinking of an engine swap, could be thinking of something as expensive, fast, and complex as a corvette LT1 motor. Or they could be thinking of something as cheep, simple and reliable as a 350 from a 1975 Caprice. The thought of a nice simple engine mounted fuel pump, rochester quadrajet carb, and a simple ignition system sound like a real nice idea. Just think, you would never have to worry about tank mounted fuel pumps, $800 fuel distributors and failing accumulators ever again. Just an idea Andrew 4194 PS: I remember reading one time that Don at Delorean Motor Center had an adapter kit to install a 3.8 V6, or a 350 V8 in a D. Does anyone know if these are still available and at what cost ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 3141 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3141 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:34:19 -0400 From: Richard Strecker MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0DA7213201C83400@smtp.mccno.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Stubborn fitting on accumulator Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greg, Just keep wiggling like a mudbug. There's probably a burr on the tube that is hanging it up. I did have that same problem. I don"t think that it is a flanged fitting, It is definitely a compression fitting of some sort and those frequently cause burrs & problems separating the fittings. Richard ------------------------------ message 3142 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3142 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <7rq44k$1f06@eGroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 17:26:24 -0500 From: James Espey Subject: [DML] Re: Clearing a few things up... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 1:53 AM -0500 9/16/99, DMCVegas@worldnet.att.net wrote: >Hi everyone, I'm writing this letter just to clear a few "rumour >problems" that I've heard about. (SNIP) >4. Finally, Is JZD going to be a Grandfather soon? I was contacted by >someone claiming to be Kathryn, who says that she is raising money for >her father's new company, and her soon-to-be-born child. I know that >there are some "lurkers" out there on the list that monitor what goes >on for JZD. Maybe someone could shed a little light on the subject? >(either publicly or privately) > JZD became a grandfather in early July, daughter Kathryn gave him his first grandchild, a grandson. I have met Kathryn and spoken with her several times. She is playing a vital role in the growth of the new company through different capital-raising measures. James ------------------------------ message 3143 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3143 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Police6627@aol.com Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:17:28 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Engine Fires Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HELLO DOES ANYBODY HAVE A LITTLE FREE TIME ON THERE HANDS IN THE SUGARLAND AREA AND WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER MY DELOREAN. MYSELF AND MY FATHER BOUGHT THE CAR TOGETHER AND CANT YET AFFORD TO TAKE TO THE DELOREAN OF HOUSTON DEALER YET.. MIKE LEISING SUGARLAND TX 1288 ------------------------------ message 3144 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3144 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:15:36 -0700 From: dtwelves@hotmail.com Subject: [DML] Museum Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just returned from a quick trip to Sarasota(Florida), escaping the hurricane (we Floridians have that problem) and I happened to stop at the Sarasota Classic Car Museum, which was a collection of cars owned by John Ringling.(Yes, of the Ringling Brothers Circus) They had a pretty nice '82 automatic with black interior on display. (Sorry, I didn't catch the vintage number) The tour guide was nice enough to let me poke around and sit in it and take some pictures of it. I've never heard anything about this museum anywhere so if you want some more information please feel free to e-mail me. Also, does anyone know of any Florida/south Florida De Lorean clubs? Thanks, Dave 12's PS-My brother hit his head on the door on the way out..lol. ------------------------------ message 3145 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3145 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Police6627@aol.com Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:15:19 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Engine Fires Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HELLO EVERBODY DOES ANYBODY KNOW THE HISTORY ON VIN 1288. I JUST BOUGHT THE 82 DELOREAN FROM A DEALER. OR WHERE I CAN MADE A COPY OF A KEY IN HOUSTON TX. THEY ALL SAY WE DONT CARRY THAT KEY.. MIKE LEISING VIN 1288 ------------------------------ message 3146 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3146 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:44:59 -0700 From: Luke.Sandel@cmich.edu Subject: [DML] Happy fun fuel filter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To anybody who has successfully changed one, hats off to you! Now I ask that you share your secrets... Bottom fitting, piece of cake. Banjo fitting at top... hrmph... After using pleanty of brute force and expletives, I have reduced a gyser to a very slow leak. But, I can't seem to tighten it any farther. I am using brand new copper seals. I did accidently use the wrong ones at first, but the mating surfaces on the bolt, fitting, and filter are all smooth. So, any suggested tools or strategies? Thanks, Luke ------------------------------ message 3147 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3147 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:32:20 -0700 From: Robert Carl Ensfield MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7rqqm4$uk4d@eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: dmc mechanic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit delorean502@excite.com wrote: > > well, I talked with my "local" Volvo dealer....they don't touch > Deloreans! Could someone give me a good name of someone who works on > Deloreans in the West Michigan area? Dan Pfeifer was the original > seller of the D, but I'm not sure if they service them or not still. > any help would be GREAT. 4512 is tired of spitting gas. > > erik geerdink > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com Erik, La Liberte Auto Center in Portage (suburban Kalamazoo) 1-800-750-4850 can probably help..They've worked on my VW Bosch system.. Aaron Mills is a mechanic there and often drives his Delorean to work.. Bob 6077 ------------------------------ message 3148 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3148 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:13:49 -0700 From: delorean502@excite.com In-Reply-To: <7rqa4f$a9ha@eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Owners check list, not for the car, but you! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well put Robert! I agree with you 110% on this one. Guys, we have something special. All of us have the love for the car, you showed that by being part of the list. but less than 8,000 people in this world of billions have the privaledge to OWN this mechanical marvel. When you go into your garage to see your Delorean (and talk to it if you are insane like me) open the doors and give a shot out to JZD. talk to you later erik geerdink proud owner of 4512 ------------------------------ message 3149 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3149 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:06:12 -0700 From: "Jesse D. Sightler" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Car shipment from California... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone had any experiences working with Car shippers? I'm trying to get one shipped out of Northern Cal. right now, but things are a bit crazy. Hopefully it will get picked up next Monday or Tuesday, but I've already had one bad experience with false promises from a shipper, and am a bit wary of the way my current shipper subcontracted the job. I guess what I really want to know is, whether or not you have had any experiences with shippers not honoring verbal commitments for long periods of time, as well as your relative level of satisfaction. Also any advice on who to choose to ship if this one falls through would be greatly appreciated. TIA, -- --------------- Jesse D. Sightler http://www.biddin.com/ VIN #5220 ------------------------------ message 3150 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3150 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:50:14 -0700 From: rjm@lrbcg.com In-Reply-To: <0DA7213201C83400@smtp.mccno.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Stubborn fitting on accumulator Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greg; I have installed several accumulators this summer and have run into the same problem. Make sure the four bolts holding the accumulator are snug and holding the unit in place. Place the brass fitting back on the unit but leave loose,just backed off a turn or two. Now give the fuel line a sharp rap with a wrench and hammer,not a fatal blow to damage the line. This has worked for me both times and did not cause any damage. The line should now come off when you turn back the brass fitting. Good Luck Richard J.Myosky Vin 4419 Lic. DMC IIX - I can't get the > metal line to release from the accumulator. I can turn the accumulator freely, > but I can't seem to apply enough force to pull the line out. ------------------------------ message 3151 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3151 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:49:34 -0500 From: Mark Noeltner In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Engine Fires Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, The key is a Volvo blank. Any decent locksmith should have the key blank and be able to cut it. Mine is an Ilco key blank # VO 73 X29. They should be able to come up with that or the equivelant very easily. Our local locksmith didn't blink an eye. Don't go to Wal-mart for it. Their people aren't trained to identify keys that well and will mess up anything out of the ordinary. A locksmith will charge an extra 75 cents more, but will virtually always give you a useable key the FIRST time. Plus DMC-Houston is right in the area. THE biggest supply of DeLorean factory and aftermarket parts around. I'm sure they could either cut one or steer you to someone who can. Mark N VIN 6820 PS--Please!! Don't shout! (All caps is considered shouting on the Internet. Very hard to read.) At 09:15 PM 9/16/99 EDT, you wrote: >HELLO EVERBODY >DOES ANYBODY KNOW THE HISTORY ON VIN 1288. I JUST BOUGHT THE 82 DELOREAN FROM >A DEALER. OR WHERE I CAN MADE A COPY OF A KEY IN HOUSTON TX. THEY ALL SAY WE >DONT CARRY THAT KEY.. > >MIKE LEISING >VIN 1288 ------------------------------ message 3152 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3152 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:42:28 -0500 From: Mark Noeltner Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Autocross in St. Louis the weekend of the Expo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone, A few of us in the St. Louis and central/southern Illinois area were kicking around the idea of getting some DeLoreans out to an autocross that is taking place on Sunday October 10th in St. Louis where the DOA Expo is taking place. Disclaimer: This is NOT in any way affiliated with the DOA or the Expo, and we're certainly not out to compete in any way. Just trying to offer something a little different for those people who may be interested. Anyway, the 10th is the last day of the DOA Expo and while there doesn't seem to be much on the posted schedule, I'm afraid you would have to miss the 10:00am brunch to participate in the autocross. It is being held at the Riverport Ampitheatre grounds at the west end of St. Louis, about 20 minutes or so from the downtown area and you would need to be on-site *before* 10am to be able to register. The events normally end by around 3 or 4pm. The local SCCA chapter has offered to create a DeLorean only class for time and scoring purposes if we can get 6 or more cars to compete. With less than 6 cars we'll end up in the normal SCCA classes where the 'Vettes will kick our b*tts :( Autocrossing, for those of you not familiar with it, is a timed test of driver skill. It is NOT dangerous to the car in any way, other than a little extra tire and brake pad wear. It involves taking 3 or 4 runs of 60 seconds or less each, around a miniature road racing course built with orange construction cones. It is held in a large open parking lot and you run solely against the clock not against other cars. In other words, no obstacles are present that could damage the car. If you are interested in this, please contact me for more information. I'll probably make up a web page in the next few days with details, additional info, and a map to the site. But feel free to e-mail me at mnoeltne@ezl.com to get more info, ask questions about autocrossing or anything else concerning this. We would love to see a bunch of DeLoreans come out and give the local SCCA guys a thrill! Thanks Mark Noeltner SCCA member and DeLorean owner VIN 6820 ------------------------------ message 3153 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3153 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "doctor280" References: <006901bf0046$f269e480$d6b935cf@murrayfi> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:33:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Oil Filter Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005A_01BF008B.1FC324C0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01BF008B.1FC324C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I checked the local Volvo dealer and found that all Volvos from, 65 or was = it 68 to present day use the same filter. (This does not include the diesel or turbo diesel). The filter they supply does have the check valve and the filter says it doe= s right on the side. The wording on the filter says something to the effect o= f " This filter has a check valve to maintain oil in the filter to provide oi= l when starting the engine. This will increase the life and longevity of the engine." I purchased one of these filters and it fits correctly. The price was $9.27 . They also supplied the copper o-ring for the drain plug , but it is to large, as the Delorean oil sump differs from the standard B28-F oil sump that Volvo used. Sorry that I do not have the part number with me now. But like I said there= is only one oil filter, you should not have a problem. Driving the Dream Robert Starling Vin#5252 ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01BF008B.1FC324C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
I checked the local Volvo dealer and found that all Vol= vos = from, 65 or was it 68 to
present day use the same filter. (This does not= = include the diesel or turbo
diesel).

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right on the side. The wordi= ng on = the filter says something to the effect of
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when starting the engine. This= will = increase the life and longevity of the
engine."

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.

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that Vo= lvo = used.

Sorry that I do not have the part number with me now. But like= I = said there is only one oil filter,  you should not have a = problem.
Driving the Dream
Robert = Starling
Vin#5252

------=_NextPart_000_005A_01BF008B.1FC324C0-- ------------------------------ message 3154 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3154 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: KKoncelik@aol.com Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:28:07 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: dmc mechanic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit eric if you are in the Cleveland area try DeLorean Caddalac They have a DeLorean Mechanic there If in The Columbus Area try Baurle Motors or Jerry Rhine I'm sure you know of the regular 3 service centers already Ken DeLorean Car Show "Year 2000" ------------------------------ message 3155 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3155 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Gus Schlachter" Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:11:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: FW: Door Latches Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004B_01BF00A1.42571080" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01BF00A1.42571080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Since we're on the subject, I'm gonna "me too". This is probably the one single problem with my D that absolutely makes me nuts. In order to close the passenger door, it must be SLAMMED. Hard. When I have a more petite passenger, I usually need to close the door for them since they can't pull it down hard enough. The problem looks like the rear latch, since it will be halfway-latched when the front latch is completely closed. I have tried adjusting the striker pin as far out/up as it will go with no success. The driver's door closes perfectly and easily. I had DMC Houston look at it in December, but once of things he was doing was replacing the door seals and we agreed that the new seals should have some time to seat, but it hasn't gotten any better. However, I get the distinct impression that the door is out of alignment with the body and the realignment procedure involves popping the torsion bars and adjusting every stainless panel on the car! I'm half-tempted to cut the body (!!?!) so that the striker pin will adjust outward further, but I'm afraid that if I completely remove the pin, it's backing plate will disappear into the door jamb forever. I really hate slamming that door. Gus Schlachter Austin, TX VIN# 4695 ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01BF00A1.42571080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable RE: [DML] Re: Door Latches

Since we're on the subject, I'm gonna "me too".

This is probably = the one = single problem with my D that absolutely makes me nuts.  In order to c= lose = the passenger door, it must be SLAMMED.  Hard.  When I have a mor= e = petite passenger, I usually need to close the door for them since they can'= t = pull it down hard enough.

The problem looks= like the = rear latch, since it will be halfway-latched when the front latch is comple= tely = closed.  I have tried adjusting the striker pin as far out/up as it wi= ll go = with no success.  The driver's door closes perfectly and easily.

I had DMC Houston= look at it = in December, but once of things he was doing was replacing the door seals a= nd we = agreed that the new seals should have some time to seat, but it hasn't gott= en = any better.  However, I get the distinct impression that the door is o= ut of = alignment with the body and the realignment procedure involves popping the = torsion bars and adjusting every stainless panel on the car!

I'm half-tempted = to cut the = body (!!?!) so that the striker pin will adjust outward further, but I'm af= raid = that if I completely remove the pin, it's backing plate will disappear into= the = door jamb forever.

I really hate sla= mming that = door.


Gus Schlachter =
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695 =


------=_NextPart_000_004B_01BF00A1.42571080-- ------------------------------ message 3156 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3156 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:37:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] SEDOC CRUISE-IN UP-DATE. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Did you know that history is about to be made in Gainesville Georgia next weekend. That's right; yours truly DMC Joe, Rob Grady, and Stephen Wynne will all be together an the same room spreading our wealth of knowledge to all the DeLorean owners who will be attending this great event. Yes, most hotels in the immediate area are booked but there are plenty of rooms available a short drive away. There is still time to register, don't miss this history making event! Go to for all the exciting details. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ------------------------------ message 3157 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3157 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:17:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Happy fun fuel filter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Where did you get your filter ? DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: Luke.Sandel@cmich.edu > > To anybody who has successfully changed one, hats off to you! Now I > ask that you share your secrets... > So, any suggested tools or strategies? > > Thanks, > Luke ------------------------------ message 3158 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3158 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:37:52 -0700 From: "Jesse D. Sightler" MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <006501beffff$f0b83520$aede6420@haroldhalpalmer> Subject: [DML] Re: Air conditioning Charge Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Freeze-12 is simply a combination of R-143A and some other gases. It is extremely uncommon to find service centers that support this, but there are probably some that will do a real R134 conversion for you. As to whether or not this conversion would work effectively on a Delorean, I really don't know. :-) Perhaps someone else could shed some light on the issue? > Hal Palmer wrote: > > Last year when I was in Palm Springs, Ca. the air conditioning on my D > failed to blow cold so I took it in to a shop that specializes in air > service. He advised me to let him convert the system to an approved > refrigerant. Not being an air conditioning expert I took his advice. > It worked fine until this summer when again it needed service at my > home in Washington State. I discovered he used a refrigerant called > Freeze 12. (not freon) Now I cant find anyone in the area to service > it. Was advised it would cost about $300 to convert it back. Anyone > have any thought's or advice?? Thanks > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address > moderato-@dmcnews.com -- --------------- Jesse D. Sightler http://www.biddin.com/ ------------------------------ message 3159 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3159 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DeLorean31@aol.com Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:07:55 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Clearing a few things up... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/16/99 8:05:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DMCVegas@worldnet.att.net writes: << 4. Finally, Is JZD going to be a Grandfather soon? I was contacted by someone claiming to be Kathryn, who says that she is raising money for her father's new company, and her soon-to-be-born child. I know that there are some "lurkers" out there on the list that monitor what goes on for JZD. Maybe someone could shed a little light on the subject? (either publicly or privately) >> Yes it is true JZD is supposed to be a grandfather soon. He may even be one by now. When I visited with JZD in June his daughter Kathryn was there as well. She was 6 or 7 months pregnant I believe at the time. So he is probably a grandfather now. Hope that answers one of your questions. Gary Gore Activities Director DeLorean MidAtlantic Vin 3360 ------------------------------ message 3160 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3160 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:02:12 -0700 From: juffo7@hotmail.com Subject: [DML] Talking D! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Everyone! I wondered if anyone out there has any type of audio file of a D running, or being started.. or engine..?? On the other hand.. if anyone would be intersted in making one (given the time) please let me know! Thanks ;) Richard "The spirit of the D forever lives on!!" ------------------------------ message 3161 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3161 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:57:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel tank mess Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To purge the fuel lines disconnect the fuel supply line leading to the fuel distributor and place the line in a container. Jump the fuel pump (RPM relay) and run the pump until the fuel runs clear. If the fuel distributor is frozen it is unlikely that the engine would run. CAUTION: Be sure to use all standard fuel system service precautions when servicing the fuel system. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: Charles Major > OK, I got the tank clean, replaced all rubber and the pump. I see some mess > in the metal lines, is there a way to blow them out? could I take off the > filter or would the accumulator be distroyed? Before I cleaned the tank the > car started to smoke (very black), someone said could be a stuck fuel > distrubitor and that I could unstick it myself how's that? > Charles ------------------------------ message 3162 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3162 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:38:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Weak battery Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark, There are several components that can cause battery drain. The radio memory and clock circuit are always drawing current from the battery. Although it is a very small amount of current, if the battery is not charged by the alternator on a regular basis, the battery will not have sufficient current to start the car. A faulty circuit or component can cause excessive current drain and cause the battery to discharge in a short period of time. There are several ways to locate a power drain, start with the most common. Pull fuse number 12 (courtesy lamps) and see if the problem goes away, if not, contact us directly for additional test procedures. BTW: a battery cut-off switch is highly recommended if you don't drive your car on a regular basis. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: MDinu89900@aol.com > Whenever my car sits without being driven for approximately two weeks and I > go out to start it, it turns over to the point where it just gets enough > juice to start or it fails to start until I let it sit for a minute or so. > Once I drive it around, it get charged up enough to start with no problem. > Absent replacing the battery (which I may do anyway) and the other obvious > choice (drive it more often!), is there something that can be continuously > draining my battery? I seem to recall something on the list about > disconnecting something because of a drain on the battery but can't remember > what. Thanks > > Mark D. > 16728 > ------------------------------ message 3163 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3163 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:04:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: hoses Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The entire fuel system is comprised of 21 hoses. You will have to tell us which ones you need. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: delorean502@excite.com > could someone tell me how many hoses I need for the fuel system. and > which ones i need. I know DMC houston and PJ grady have them, but > which ones do I need? thanks > > erik geerdink > ------------------------------ message 3164 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3164 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:07:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Oil Filter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you can't find any we have a few on our shelf. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- From: Murray Fisher I see that the original Oil Filter was a PURFLUX Part No. LS410-A. Does anyone know if this is still available or what is a replacement, if not. I am due for an oil change. My car has 6K miles on it now. I changed it at 3K miles when I got it. What weight should I use. I would prefer a direct replacement with no adapters unless absolutely necessary. DeLorean World Vol-7 #1 has a comparison article on this filter versus the Fram. Murray Vin: 5962 Lic: DMC-XII Washington State ------------------------------ message 3165 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3165 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Mike03062@aol.com Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:36:42 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean dealers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MacMulkin Chevrolet in Nashua New Hampshire was a DeLorean Dealer, maybe the only one in NH. Many New England D's came from there. D Mike Drake ------------------------------ message 3166 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3166 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:40:17 -0600 (MDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 From: raddad@cmn.net Subject: [DML] Gas Mask Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Help! A critter has died in the bowels of my car. Now, I've checked inside the car. I checked in the comparments behind the seat and under the package shelf. I've checked in the engine compartment. I've checked in the front trunk. All to no avail. No critter to be seen - but, boy howdy, you can sure smell him. Two things gave me a clue as to where he/she might be. Two dogs were actually licking the stainless steel on the front fender just behind the wheel well. Then, when I removed the cover to the compartment where the tool kit is kept -- sheesh - what an awful smell. It seems that whatever is dead has managed to crawl into the front pontoon on the passenger's side. It apparently crawled past the point where the opening gets smaller on top of the wheel well and then died in the space behind the wheel well. I believe that the top of the pontoon is empty space and the bottom is filled with foam. To get to the space it appears I have two choices. Remove the front fender and cut a "retrieval hole" into the GRP so as to extract the dead critter; OR, cut the hole from the trunk side. The latter is MUCH simpler, but the results will be more obvious. Naturally, after removal, I could fill the upper pontoon with insulating foam which would give backing for the piece that was removed and then have it reglassed and repainted. Before I do either of the above, does anyone have any other clever suggestions? Oh, yes, option three is to sell the car to someone who has lost their sense of smell. Help! Dick Ryan VIN 16867 ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- View the full archives, subscribe/unsubscribe, use the group calendar at http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews Manage your subscriptions at http://eGroups.com Free e-mail groups by eGroups.com. 
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