From: eGroups Digest [dmcnews@egroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 2:28 AM To: David.Swingle Subject: dmcnews digest eGroups Daily Digest: dmcnews has 95 new messages. Click here http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2938 to read them. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 2938. Josh Haldeman Re: headliners 2939. DLoff80@aol.com Any RI owners??? 2940. Lee Re: help me PLEASE 2941. DMC Joe Re: help me PLEASE 2942. Ann & Ed Thompson Super Glue 2943. DMCCHRIS@aol.com Re: Any RI owners??? 2944. Jim Changing out the belts 2945. Jim Kill Switch 2946. TTanaka504@aol.com Turbo and Audio 2947. JCox4001@aol.com Mississippi DeLorean 2948. CBL302@aol.com Re: DeLorean Screensavers? 2949. delorean502@excite.com fuel pump? please help! 2950. Michael Babb Re: DeLorean Screensavers? 2951. RICKAYE@webtv.net frame problems 2952. Jesse D. Sightler Re: Mississippi DeLorean 2953. raddad@cmn.net Re: Turbo and Audio 2954. William T Wilson Re: frame problems 2955. DMC Joe Re: Kill Switch 2956. DMC Joe Re: Changing out the belts 2957. autodoc50@aol.com Re: frame problems 2958. John Dyer Re: UK purchase 2959. magriese@us.ibm.com Re: help me PLEASE 2960. Gus Schlachter Re: Kill Switch 2961. DMC3309@aol.com Re: Super Glue 2962. TTanaka504@aol.com Re: Turbo and Audio 2963. magriese@us.ibm.com Re: headliners 2964. magriese@us.ibm.com Re: dash crack 2965. LovDMC12@aol.com Door ajar light and rear window defogger 2966. LovDMC12@aol.com Re: fuel pump? please help! 2967. Robert Hlavacek Orginal Tire Needed 2968. Robert Hlavacek A DeLorean Story 2969. NJP548@aol.com Re: fuel pump? please help! 2970. . DOA Voting 2971. Comet42483@aol.com Re: headliners 2972. Duke Re: fuel pump? please help! 2973. Travis Graham The Lucas Switch 2974. Dylan Seals Re: Miss. Delorean eyebrows 2975. juffo7@hotmail.com Top Speed 2976. NJP548@aol.com weird blue wires/tube things 2977. David Sontos Life of catylitic converter 2978. DMC Joe Re: fuel pump? please help! 2979. DMC Joe Re: Kill Switch 2980. DMC Joe Re: Top Speed 2981. DMC Joe Re: Door ajar light and rear window defogger 2982. PaulF52093@aol.com Re: Door ajar light and rear window defogger 2983. Jus4sho@aol.com Re: Aftermarket steering wheels 2984. Brad Fudge my aching back 2985. DMC Joe Re: Life of catylitic converter 2986. raddad@cmn.net Re: Top Speed 2987. SteveDMC Re: my aching back 2988. delorean502@excite.com spraying fuel 2989. The Genius New DMC Picture in Vault. 2990. Richard Strecker Re: Top Speed 2991. darryl@techline.com Re: overheated DeLorean 2992. TJzHeRe27@aol.com Re: Another DeLorean Story 2993. Rob Hook Re: Aftermarket steering wheels 2994. Rob Hook Re: my aching back 2995. DMC Joe Re: weird blue wires/tube things 2996. DMC Joe Re: overheated DeLorean 2997. DMC Joe Re: Aftermarket steering wheels 2998. .. DMC-80 website? 2999. Mike Atkinson Rumbling Noise 3000. raddad@cmn.net Re: overheated DeLorean 3001. Mike Substelny Re: New DMC Picture in Vault. 3002. raddad@cmn.net Re: Aftermarket steering wheels 3003. Marc A Levy Re: fuel pump? please help! 3004. Marc A Levy Re: Turbo and Audio 3005. fen2k@yahoo.com Repair questions 3006. James Espey Re: dash crack 3007. AJL521@aol.com Re: fuel pump? please help! 3008. Macstacker@aol.com NEWSFLASH, delorean.com changes 3009. robert parker Re: Tire Balancing 3010. William F. Lane Re: Top Speed 3011. delorean502@excite.com new engine 3012. delorean502@excite.com Re: headliners 3013. delorean502@excite.com fuel leak 3014. Donald Kazmark Re: Top Speed 3015. eGroups.com Poll Results Voting Results: DeLorean Mailing List Polls 3016. Scucci Re: Aftermarket steering wheels 3017. Richard Petrie Re: Top Speed 3018. PaulF52093@aol.com Re: overheated DeLorean 3019. ABatt10347@aol.com Doors locked and fires 3020. Greg Guillot Re: Aftermarket steering wheels 3021. Montgomery, Ken Re: Radio cutout/ was: Turbo and Audio 3022. Hart, Paul Re: Aftermarket steering wheels 3023. NJP548@aol.com Re: weird blue wires/tube things 3024. Comet42483@aol.com Re: Turbo and Audio 3025. dongowler Wheel Value Stems & Caps 3026. WINGD2@aol.com Re: Turbo and Audio 3027. Kelvin Re: NEWSFLASH, delorean.com changes 3028. Christopher Hawes Re: Aftermarket steering wheels 3029. cbl302@msn.com Re: new engine 3030. cbl302@msn.com Re: NEWSFLASH, delorean.com changes 3031. Robert Myers Re: Life of catylitic converter 3032. CBL302@aol.com (no subject) ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 2938 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2938 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 09:58:11 -0400 From: Josh Haldeman MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: [DML] Re: headliners Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I did mine myself without too much trouble. Once you have your new material, take the old cloth off the headliner panel, (or as much will come off in one piece) and use it as a pattern for cutting out your new piece. Don't expect the foam backing to come off with the fabric, you'll probably have to scrape that off later. After applying the 3M Super Strength 99 glue (make sure to buy that kind!!) to the now bare door headliner board, start pushing the new piece of fabric down in the center and work your way out. Be careful that the new fabric doesn't fold over itself in the recessed area on the board. You can avoid this by stretching the fabric carefully at the appropriate places. Total cost for the entire roof is about $20 depending on where you get your fabric. I am not compensated in any way to endorse 3M products, it's just that if you don't use this particular brand (available at home goods stores) your headliner will fall back down after a few months. This 3M stuff is STRONG...it's holding my side view mirror on right now!! Good luck, Josh VIN 5102 CatfishEd@aol.com wrote: > My headliners did the same thing with the foam deteriorating. I tried to fix > it and messed it up. I took it to a good uphostery sop and for $40 each side > they did a beautiful job of replacing it. Don't try it yourself ------------------------------ message 2939 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2939 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DLoff80@aol.com Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 10:44:27 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Any RI owners??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all. Just wondering if there are any Rhode Island owners of D's. I've seen plenty in my "other" home state (WA-moving back ASAP). But have seen DeLoreans for sale in Auto Trader every now and then. IF any are on this list, please let me know! Dave Loffler Johnston, RI (near Prov.) VIN-WORKING ------------------------------ message 2940 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2940 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 08:27:01 -0700 From: Lee In-Reply-To: <7rcpjt$a70q@eGroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: help me PLEASE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 10:33 PM 9/10/99 -0700, you wrote: >after seeing the pic of the over heated D...now I'm scared. I >attempted to change the spark plugs on my Delorean today. as many know >the first 5 are a piece of cake, until you have to get to the one >underneath all the hoses. well, i attempted and I couldnt get the coil >back on the spark plug. can anybody give me some advice on how to do >it. I cant reach in there. a more serious question: I drove it >around the block to see if i did indeed get the cap back on. I smelled >fumes. I pulled into my garage and noticed i had a trail of gas behind >me. i opened the engine compartment and there was gas by the three >spark plus on the left and up near the distributor area. could i have >loosened a line or something? please help me. I dont want my Delorean >to look like that other one that was burned. thanks > >erik geerdink > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > > Hello Erik, Yes to all your questions. The fuel system is a high pressure situation and "ANY" gasoline in the engine compartment can mean a FIRE! Don't even think about starting your D until you get all the fuel lines re seated, wash out the whole compartment and dry it out before starting the D again.. To seat the spark plug wire, get it on the plug and slide your hand down the wire to the plug pushing and letting it slip through your fingers as you go, you will feel a slight snap as the cap slips over the plug top connector. Erik, for GOD's sake be carful! Lee ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ Radiance Software Int. Leader in VRML Authoring software Over 200,000 copies distributed EMMY Winner Best Technical Achievement (computer generated effects) 1726 Francisco Street Berkeley CA. 94703 1-510-649-9118 lseiler@radiance.com http://www.radiance.com offices: California, Florida, Tokyo Jp. ------------------------------ message 2941 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2941 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 13:37:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: help me PLEASE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Easier said than done on plugs # 4 & 5 ! DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: Lee > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Re: help me PLEASE > Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 11:27 AM > > To seat the spark plug wire, get it on the plug and slide your hand down > the wire to the plug pushing and letting it slip through your fingers as > you go, you will feel a slight snap as the cap slips over the plug top > connector. > > Erik, for GOD's sake be carful! > > Lee ------------------------------ message 2942 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2942 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 16:03:45 -0400 From: Ann & Ed Thompson MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <37DA5FF3.D4940FA0@osu.edu> Subject: [DML] Super Glue Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Josh Haldeman wrote: > > I am not compensated in any way to endorse 3M products, it's just > that if you don't use this particular brand (available at home goods > stores) your headliner will fall back down after a few months. > This 3M stuff is STRONG...it's holding my side view mirror on right now!! Speaking of gluing and later falling off again, this keeps happening to the weather stripping on my hood. What is recommended for that? Will the 3M Super Strength 99 do the job? Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982) Midlothian, VA ------------------------------ message 2943 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2943 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DMCCHRIS@aol.com Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 16:41:33 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Any RI owners??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello! I am wondering if there are any delorean owners in the Dallas area. But it would even be beteer if there are any in the plano area. thanks for your time. chris ------------------------------ message 2944 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2944 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:10:10 -0400 From: Jim MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Changing out the belts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm going to change on the belts this weekend due to a cracked alternator belt. Are there any tricks I should know before I doing this? As to the belt tension and the best way to get leverage to tighten everything back down? Jim ------------------------------ message 2945 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2945 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:13:03 -0400 From: Jim MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Kill Switch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm thinking about putting a kill switch in the car. Maybe somewhere under the hood since I have to put my car cover in there any ways.. What would be best way to do this . A switch on the starter or something maybe coming off the fuel pump? Jim ------------------------------ message 2946 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2946 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: TTanaka504@aol.com Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:33:29 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Turbo and Audio Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear, DMC-12 drivers: Hello, I have been reading for this mailing for 2 years. Anyway, it is my first time to ask questions. Does anyone buy and set the turbo on D from A-1 TURBO Industry Inc.? http://www.a1turbo.com/delor.htm They are salling the IHI turbo kid for under $1000 instead of $5000 from DMC specialized shops. Also, is anyone using the IHI turbo on this list? I would hear any experiences. I hear that we need to cut some place to install a car stereo unit. How can you done? Thanks for helping. Blacknight ------------------------------ message 2947 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2947 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: JCox4001@aol.com Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:56:28 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Mississippi DeLorean Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DML'ers, This is a follow up to the original post. I had an opportunity today to get down to see this DeLorean. It is Vin# 2701, August 81. It is a 5 speed with the black interior, and both the hood lines, and the gas flap. The car is showing just over 17K miles, but has evidently had angle drive problems. This car does not have the update spray paint in the engine well, still has the Ducillier Alternator, and seems to be riddled with the standard electrical problems. It has Firestone tires, relatively new, but the tread on the front and back do not match. The dash has a crack above the glovebox, that has been repaired by an amateur. The stereo is a cheapie. This car has the antenna in the windshield, but someone had at one time added the power antenna, that has since broken and has lost parts. The front facia has some SERIOUS eyebrows. The normal "hot start" problems exist. Thats the bad news. The good news is that the body is perfect! The doors lift all the way up with authority, and the headliners are in good shape. I was impressed that it has been sitting outside and is not full of water, of course, it hasn't rained around here in a loooong time. The rear lens have been recently replaced. The fella that owns the car is named Jimmy. His phone number is 662-837-9615. He will take considerably less than the $16,500 he is asking. If you want more info, please e-mail me directly or give me a call at 901-853-8341. Jeff Cox JCox4001@aol.com ------------------------------ message 2948 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2948 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: CBL302@aol.com Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:58:01 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Screensavers? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/11/99 9:53:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Amazinrick@aol.com writes: << I made my own simple D screensaver with a Create-A-Saver that I had with pictures I've gathered. I was wondering if anyone actually had any "real" D screensavers? >> Go to Http://Members.tripod.com/~Phoenix007/Index.html under Homepage Directory search for Delorean "95" Desktop Theme,Click on that then just follow directions to download.Hope that helps. Claude Vin#10554/6383/000570 ------------------------------ message 2949 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2949 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 16:41:25 -0700 From: delorean502@excite.com Subject: [DML] fuel pump? please help! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ok, heres the deal. I posted a letter yesterday saying fuel was spraying in my Delorean. not a good sign, i know. i looked at it today to see where it was spraying. Dumb idea? I know but i had to see where it was coming from. dont worry, i had a hose next to me with lots of water coming out just in case. you know the upper center of the engine looking down there is something with all those hoses coming from it? (i dont know what its called, someone please tell me :) ) well it was spraying out towards the fire wall inbetween that and whats underneath it. A LOT of gas....a lot! could someone tell me what needs to be fixed? i need some help. I really dont want to send it to the people down the street that can fix it, but HATE deloreans more than a punch in the face. any advise would be great. erik geerdink vin 4512....not burned! plate EGGS D ------------------------------ message 2950 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2950 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Michael Babb" References: <5fef9583.250b514b@aol.com> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:12:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Screensavers? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01BEFC81.47C92D60" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BEFC81.47C92D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Brings up an interesting idea....Would anyone be interested in a Windows 95= /95 Theme (background, icons, etc)? I wouldn't mind working on a theme if = I have enough interest. = Michael Babb ----- Original Message ----- = From: Amazinrick@aol.com = To: dmcnews@egroups.com = Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 12:31 AM Subject: [DML] DeLorean Screensavers? I made my own simple D screensaver with a Create-A-Saver that I had with = pictures I've gathered. I was wondering if anyone actually had any "real" = D = screensavers? Thanks, Rick VIN- still looking in NJ 1955 Chevy Bel Air = ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address mode= rato-@dmcnews.com = ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BEFC81.47C92D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Brings up an interesting idea....Would anyone be interested in a Windo= ws = 95/95 Theme (background, icons, etc)?  I wouldn't mind working on a th= eme = if I have enough interest. 
 
Michael Babb
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Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999= 12:31 = AM
Subject: [DML] DeLorean = Screensavers?

I made my own simple D screensaver with a Create-A-Saver tha=
t I had with =

pictures I've gathered.  I was wondering if anyone actually had any "real" =
D =

screensavers?

Thanks,

Rick
VIN- still looking in NJ
1955 Chevy Bel Air
To address comments privately to the moderating team, pl= ease = address moderato-@dmcnews.com =
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BEFC81.47C92D60-- ------------------------------ message 2951 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2951 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:19:11 -0700 From: RICKAYE@webtv.net Subject: [DML] frame problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit during my search of a delorean, i spoke with a man who was selling his. while decribing the vehicle, he advised that the frame had been repaired and renforced, as to mean that this was a positive aspect of the vehicle. the man then went on to say that deloreans have problems with the frame that develope over time. is there any truth to this possible frame problem. where would one look on the delorean to see if a potental car to buy has this dreaded problem. i am most likley taking a trip to look at a 82 d next week and would like to know if this type of problem does realy exist and where to look. also if nayone car offer info on what to look at of consider on a 5 speed d when looking to buy, please give some sugestions. thanks officedr rick ------------------------------ message 2952 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2952 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:00:39 -0700 From: "Jesse D. Sightler" MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <55b639fe.250c381c@aol.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Mississippi DeLorean Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit JCox4001@aol.com wrote: > The front facia has some > SERIOUS eyebrows. I've heard this expression before, but still have no clue what it refers to. :-) Could you please explain to me what it means for a Delorean to have "eyebrows"? --------------- Jesse D. Sightler http://www.biddin.com/ ------------------------------ message 2953 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2953 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 21:09:43 -0600 (MDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 From: raddad@cmn.net Subject: [DML] Re: Turbo and Audio Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > http://www.a1turbo.com/delor.htm >They are salling the IHI turbo kid for under $1000 instead of $5000 from DMC >specialized shops. Also, is anyone using the IHI turbo on this list? I would >hear any experiences. ------------------------------------------- You know what they say - - if it sounds to good to be true, it is! IHI are the turbos used on the twin turbo kit. What these folks are selling is rebuilt/remanufactured turbos - not a turbo kit. In other words, when your IHI turbos are worn out, you can get rebuilt ones from them for about $800 each. They don't sell the manifolds, the piping, brackets, mufflers,etc. etc. Dick Ryan VIN 16867 ------------------------------ message 2954 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2954 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:23:24 -0400 (EDT) From: William T Wilson In-Reply-To: <7rev2f$aklf@eGroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: frame problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 RICKAYE@webtv.net wrote: > is there any truth to this possible frame problem. where The problem with the frames is rust. The frames are epoxy coated which was designed to seal the ordinary steel frames inside the epoxy and keep out all moisture. Unfortunately this design didn't work well in practice as the epoxy cracks and allows water in. Then it makes things worse as the epoxy actually traps water inside it, in contact with the frame. It would have been better if they had just painted or undercoated the frames like everybody else, but that's not what they did. Other than rust there are no structural weaknesses or deterioration to watch out for, unless the car has been in an accident. I think www.pearce-design.com has pictures of rusted vs. non-rusted frames under the "permaframe" section - as does dmc houston at www.usadmc.com. ------------------------------ message 2955 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2955 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:18:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Kill Switch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You already have a kill switch built into the car, it's your inertia switch. Just pull the plunger up when leave the car and push it back down when you return. Labor time: 0, parts 0.00. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: Jim > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Kill Switch > Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 6:13 PM > > I'm thinking about putting a kill switch in the car. Maybe somewhere > under the hood since I have to put my car cover in there any ways.. > What would be best way to do this . A switch on the starter or something > maybe coming off the fuel pump? > > Jim > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > ------------------------------ message 2956 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2956 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:58:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Changing out the belts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The AC belt has a tension adjuster, Parts Manual 7 / 2 / 1 item # 17. This allows easy adjustment of the AC belt. CAUTION: Do not over tighten the pulley mounting bracket bolts, items # 4. The alternator has no adjuster so you will have to use some brute force. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: Jim > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Changing out the belts > Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 6:10 PM > > I'm going to change on the belts this weekend due to a cracked > alternator belt. Are there any tricks I should know before I doing > this? As to the belt tension and the best way to get leverage to tighten > everything back down? > > Jim > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > ------------------------------ message 2957 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2957 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 21:24:10 -0700 From: autodoc50@aol.com In-Reply-To: <7rev2f$aklf@eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: frame problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit autodoc5-@aol.com wrote: The majority of structural frame problems occur if front the front lower control arms . check the area from the radiator support back to the lower control arms. if this area rust out the lower control arms lose the ability to stay centered,it can be fixed though as i have done two myself. hope this helps. original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=2951 > during my search of a delorean, i spoke with a man who > was selling his. while decribing the vehicle, he advised > that the frame had been repaired and renforced, as to mean > that this was a positive aspect of the vehicle. the man > then went on to say that deloreans have problems with the > frame that develope over time. > is there any truth to this possible frame problem. where > would one look on the delorean to see if a potental car to > buy has this dreaded problem. i am most likley taking a > trip to look at a 82 d next week and would like to know if > this type of problem does realy exist and where to look. > also if nayone car offer info on what to look at of > consider on a 5 speed d when looking to buy, please give > some sugestions. > thanks > officedr rick > ------------------------------ message 2958 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2958 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "John Dyer" References: <19990911004321.12604.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 09:54:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: UK purchase Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Could anyone email me a list of deloreans currently onsale in the UK, I live in Portsmouth so pref in the south but anywhere will do. John ------------------------------ message 2959 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2959 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: magriese@us.ibm.com Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:21:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: help me PLEASE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Erik Needless to say, this is SERIOUS. I suspect that while working with the hoses to get the last spark plug out, you fractured one of the fuel lines to the injectors. These can be replaced through the normal parts places or you can try a local Volvo dealership or any other good foreign car specialists. DO NOT START THE CAR UNTIL THIS IS FIXED!!! I had a similar problem with the leftmost rear injector on my car. It actually caught fire while my wife and I were riding in the car. Fortunately, I noticed the flames about when they started. Diet Dr. Pepper is a pretty good fire retardent. The only damage was some soot on the engine cover and some blistered insulation on the wiring harness in the area. Mike Griese Storage Software Development Manager IBM Storage Systems Division Rochester, MN 55901 Internet: magriese@us.ibm.com voice: (507)253-1853 fax: (507)253-2880 ------------------------------ message 2960 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2960 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Gus Schlachter" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 12:16:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990912040256.RORM24367@delorean> Subject: [DML] Re: Kill Switch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, I thought that when you tripped the inertia switch, it unlocked the doors. Does this mean that if you use it as a kill switch, you can't lock your car? Also, I'd think that the inertia switch wasn't rated for frequent throws. Wouldn't it wear out after awhile? Besides, I have no fear that my car will be stolen. I'm more worried about the "DMC" on my grill. Gus Schlachter Austin, TX VIN# 4695 > -----Original Message----- > From: DMC Joe [mailto:DMCJOE@att.net] > Subject: [DML] Re: Kill Switch > > You already have a kill switch built into the car, it's your inertia > switch. Just pull the plunger up when leave the car and push it back down > when you return. Labor time: 0, parts 0.00. > > DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / ------------------------------ message 2961 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2961 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DMC3309@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:58:26 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Super Glue Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The best glue for weather stripping is 3M Super weather strip adhesive. Its like contact cement in a tube. Robert VIN 3309 ------------------------------ message 2962 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2962 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: TTanaka504@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 12:27:07 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Turbo and Audio Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear. DMC drivers; I am one who posted 'Turbo and Audio'. And I am very sorry for confusing folks. Yes, they just sell Only 'Turbo' itself. not 'Kit'. Anyway, Thank you for correcting and answering me. Blacknight ------------------------------ message 2963 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2963 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: magriese@us.ibm.com Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:12:58 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: headliners Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Erik This is a common problem with DeLoreans. The headliner material cannot be fixed, as the felt fabric has separated from the underlying foam core. Any competent automotive upholstery shop can fix this problem for around $50. Take the headliners out of the car and to the shop. They will strip the old headliner material off the cores and replace it with an almost identical material. If you need new firtree fasteners (the plastic things that look like christmas trees) you can get them from the shop or from DeLorean parts providers. I had to go the parts provider route beause the fasteners are not a standard size. Mike Griese Storage Software Development Manager IBM Storage Systems Division Rochester, MN 55901 Internet: magriese@us.ibm.com voice: (507)253-1853 fax: (507)253-2880 ------------------------------ message 2964 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2964 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: magriese@us.ibm.com Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:07:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: dash crack Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Erik wrote: >i was wondering if anybody out there has fixed the cracks on their own and how. < Erik My car had two cracks in the dash pad, one above the glovebox, the other behind the instrument cluster. The previous owner had the dash fixed by one of those vinyl repair outfits popular with used car dealerships. These repairs are not permanent, as both cracks had returned in my car. There are two ways to permanently repair cracks in dash pads - replace the pad with a new one or have the old pad stripped and new vinyl bonded to the old core. I have use both processes with excellent long term success. The current price for a new DeLorean dash pad is around $625. Just Dashes will recover your old dash with an exact match vinyl grain for less than that. Obviously, both procedures require that you remove the dashboard. Mike Griese Storage Software Development Manager IBM Storage Systems Division Rochester, MN 55901 Internet: magriese@us.ibm.com voice: (507)253-1853 fax: (507)253-2880 ------------------------------ message 2965 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2965 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: LovDMC12@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 14:37:03 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Door ajar light and rear window defogger Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a very strange problem. When I turn on the rear window defogger, the door ajar light comes on and there is a clicking noise coming from the relay compartment. What is happening? I was told to unplug the door relay from its circuit breaker to make the locks manual and to keep from burning out the solenoids; however, the clicking sound can still be heard if the rear defogger is activated and the door ajar light comes on. Can anybody give me a clue as to how to solve this? Brian VIN 1597 ------------------------------ message 2966 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2966 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: LovDMC12@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 14:28:23 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: fuel pump? please help! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Erik, The part you're describing is the fuel distributor. My limited understanding is that the gas travels through the fuel distributor before being sent to the individual cylinders. You have a serious problem!!! My mechanic has told me, as have several D owners, that a new distributor costs around $1800 to $2000. There is another possibility, however. Call Python Corporation in Stanton, CA at 1-800-959-2865. I've been told that they rebulid the Bosch fuel distributors that are found on the DeLorean at a very reasonable price. I've never used this company so I cannot vouch for their work, but my mechanic has used them for this very operation, and he speaks very highly of them. Perhaps someone on the list has had Python rebuild a fuel distributor for them and can tell you the results. Brian VIN 1597 ------------------------------ message 2967 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2967 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:38:34 -0400 From: Robert Hlavacek MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Orginal Tire Needed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm in need of an orginal rear tire to match my others. The donut dosen't do much for my D. Please email or call me: (8-5) 203.783.2729 (home) 203.377.7551 See "A DeLorean Story" for details on what happened. ------------------------------ message 2968 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2968 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:58:37 -0400 From: Robert Hlavacek MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] A DeLorean Story Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leaving the car show in Naugatuck last Friday night, I ran over something on Rt.8. Everything was fine for a few miles, but just before my exit I felt my left rear tire going flat By the bottom of the ramp, when I just pulled over, I saw it was destroyed. I put on the donut - FLAT! It's now about 11 PM. Tried to wave down a car to get a pump or something. no luck. then a women with a little kid in the back seat pulls up and asks if she can help. No pump or can of flat stuff, but she offers me her donut. Almost fit! She appologises she couldn't help me! I now go off in search of an air pump or flat fix can. A quarter mile is a bar and someone gives me 1/2 an old can. I buy them a drink and have one myself. Hear comes the good part: I get back to the D to find a new can of flat fixed next to my tire!! That blew me away. I just stood there for a minute feeling goodness. What a nice thing! I don't even know who she is. There's only a little more. The old 1/2 can didn't work. The new one did. Back to the bar, closed it up, partied all night with new friends, saw sunrise on my boat, went Bluefishing (no luck), SCUBA diving with my sun in the PM, and then to bed early Saturday night. Bob # 10961 ------------------------------ message 2969 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2969 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: NJP548@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 09:51:20 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: fuel pump? please help! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 9/11/99 10:50:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 delorean502@excite.com writes: << you know the upper center of the engine looking down there is something with all those hoses coming from it? (i dont know what its called, someone please tell me :) ) >> =20 Hey Erik, That would be your fuel distributor. Just a minor part in the fuel=20 system :=DE (J/K) Hope that helps a little Later, Nick VIN#1852....still for sale, e-mail for details ------------------------------ message 2970 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2970 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "." Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:59:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DOA Voting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just got my ballot for the DOA board. It is unclear how many people sit = on the board, what control they have and background information on the = candidates [it seems like a lot of couples (only four out of 16 aren't = married/related to someone else on the ballot)]. Since many of the DOA = members are also on this list, I'd be interested in comments. David Levey Cleveland, Ohio ------------------------------ message 2971 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2971 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Comet42483@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 17:13:44 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: headliners Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Our D had similar problems, not as bad though, the foam had disintegrated, and the cloth was hanging down a bit. Ed at Delorean One in chatsworth is replacing them in our car but I would assume any Delorean service center could either replace them or you could order the headliners from them and do it yourself... ------------------------------ message 2972 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2972 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Duke" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:13:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: fuel pump? please help! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Erik, I believe your talking about the fuel distributor. All you need to do is tighten the bolt from where its leaking and you should be ok. If you don't want to start the car to check for a fuel leak, you can just 'jump' the RPM relay to make the pump run constant. (check the back issues or you can email me directly for details) Tighten the bolt, then jump the pump, and check for leaks. After you finish, reinstall the RPM relay and let the car sit for a while. (depending on how much gas has been sprayed) You should be fine. Hope this helps, Duke -----Original Message----- From: delorean502@excite.com To: dmcnews@egroups.com Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 9:49 PM Subject: [DML] fuel pump? please help! >ok, heres the deal. I posted a letter yesterday saying fuel was >spraying in my Delorean. not a good sign, i know. i looked at it >today to see where it was spraying. Dumb idea? I know but i had to see >where it was coming from. dont worry, i had a hose next to me with >lots of water coming out just in case. you know the upper center of >the engine looking down there is something with all those hoses coming >from it? (i dont know what its called, someone please tell me :) ) >well it was spraying out towards the fire wall inbetween that and >whats underneath it. A LOT of gas....a lot! could someone tell me >what needs to be fixed? i need some help. I really dont want to send >it to the people down the street that can fix it, but HATE deloreans >more than a punch in the face. any advise would be great. > >erik geerdink >vin 4512....not burned! >plate EGGS D > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > ------------------------------ message 2973 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2973 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Travis Graham" Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 16:27:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] The Lucas Switch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found a humorous image of "The Lucas Switch" while looking through some TR-6 sites. This one applies equally well to the DeLorean. It's in the DMC News egroups vault as "Lucas.GIF". Enjoy! Travis Graham ------------------------------ message 2974 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2974 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Dylan Seals" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 17:55:34 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Miss. Delorean eyebrows Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From: "Dylan Seals" This means the Facia has melted or stretched above the head lights. Probably from a lot of direct sun light. Dylan Seals Vin...Still Looking. From: "Jesse D. Sightler" >JCox4001@aol.com wrote: > > The front facia has some > > SERIOUS eyebrows. > >I've heard this expression before, but still have no clue what it refers >to. :-) Could you please explain to me what it means for a Delorean to >have "eyebrows"? > >--------------- >Jesse D. Sightler >http://www.biddin.com/ ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ message 2975 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2975 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:25:09 -0700 From: juffo7@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <19990912040256.RORM24367@delorean> Subject: [DML] Top Speed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone, A friend of mine told me that he is not able to get his D past 85-87 mph. I'm curious, did D's ever come with govenors for speed in them, or did some North American dealers put them in aftermarket?? I'm thinking there must be something wrong with it! If anyone could feed some insight on this, it would be appreciated, also could someone please tell me what the approx. top speed is? Thanks, Richard ------------------------------ message 2976 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2976 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: NJP548@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:57:59 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] weird blue wires/tube things Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey list, While trying to get my car to run better I came across a possible problem that might help me. First off I have to know there are 2 different ECU units correct? One is called the Lambda ECU and the other is the one that controls the Idle Speed Regulator, right??. I took off the wood panel behind the drivers side and saw that there were 2 blue tube things...one was coming off of the Lambda ECU and the other was coming from an other unit that was mounted underneath the other ECU (the one that controls the Idle Speed Regulator) One of my questions is what do these 2 blue tube things do. And also I have no power going to my frequency valve and the Control Pressure regulator. Would that cause my car not to run right? Right now when I turn it on the car will rev up to about 3500-4000 RMP but then if u let go of the gas it will idle at around 1500-2000 RMP. But then when you put your foot all the way on the gas pedal again it will work its way back up to about 3000RMP. But again if u have your foot lightly on the gas it will go up to about 3500RPM. At first I thought the problem was mechanical so I put a different Fuel Distributor on it, I got new injectors, the fuel pump is working so I am narrowing the problem down to something electrical so I am still trying to figure it out. I am also thinking it might be the Oxygen sensor, maybe that isn't sending a pulse to the Lambda ECU and maybe thats why I don't have any power going to the Frequency Valve. Could that be a possibility? DMC Joe does that sound right? Anyways, I am selling this car so I want to get it to run better for the future owner. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot, Nick VIN# 1852....for sale....e-mail for info ------------------------------ message 2977 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2977 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:58:03 -0400 From: David Sontos MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Life of catylitic converter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know the life of the catylic converter. I had an old Bonneville with a 100K miles and the honeycomb in the converter crumbled and plugged it up so the engine began overheating. Now that my "D" is going on 108K I'm concerned. Dave Sontos VIN 02573 ------------------------------ message 2978 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2978 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 20:50:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: fuel pump? please help! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK guys; lets get the facts straight. Lets not lead non technical DeLorean owners into the wilderness. If I'm not mistaken the original post described a leaking fuel connector which might be easily corrected by just tightening up the connector. Lets not "scare the pants off the guy" by telling him that his fuel distributor is bad. Lets not pour salt on the wound by quoting a price of $1800 to $2000 when the part costs less than $800 from any of the DeLorean parts people. Lastly: Python Corporation does not provide services to consumers, you must be in the auto parts or service business and have an account on file with them to order their services. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: LovDMC12@aol.com > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Re: fuel pump? please help! > Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 2:28 PM > > Erik, > > The part you're describing is the fuel distributor. My limited understanding > is that the gas travels through the fuel distributor before being sent to the > individual cylinders. You have a serious problem!!! My mechanic has told > me, as have several D owners, that a new distributor costs around $1800 to > $2000. > > There is another possibility, however. Call Python Corporation in Stanton, > CA at 1-800-959-2865. I've been told that they rebulid the Bosch fuel > distributors that are found on the DeLorean at a very reasonable price. I've > never used this company so I cannot vouch for their work, but my mechanic has > used them for this very operation, and he speaks very highly of them. > Perhaps someone on the list has had Python rebuild a fuel distributor for > them and can tell you the results. > > Brian > VIN 1597 ------------------------------ message 2979 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2979 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 20:52:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Kill Switch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The inertia switch will unlock the doors only upon activation, once the switch is open the doors will function normally. The switch only closes a ground with no current going through the switch when the ignition is turned off. Therefore the switch could be used on a regular basis. BTW: I really don't believe it is necessary to disable the engine for security reasons for the following reasons. A) The DeLorean has an extremely low theft rate. B) Most car thieves avoid steeling cars that they are not absolutely sure how to start and drive. C) If you lock your doors the DeLorean is one of the most difficult cars to brake into due to it's twin lock latches and non standard latch mechanism which is virtually impossible to by-pass. Slim-jim's are vertually useless. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: Gus Schlachter > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Re: Kill Switch > Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 1:16 PM > > Hey, I thought that when you tripped the inertia switch, it unlocked the > doors. Does this mean that if you use it as a kill switch, you can't lock > your car? > > Also, I'd think that the inertia switch wasn't rated for frequent throws. > Wouldn't it wear out after awhile? > > Besides, I have no fear that my car will be stolen. I'm more worried about > the "DMC" on my grill. > > > Gus Schlachter > Austin, TX > VIN# 4695 ------------------------------ message 2980 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2980 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 22:01:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Top Speed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DeLoreans have no governor or speed limiting device, your friend probably has a fuel injection or throttle problem. The DeLorean top speed is between 120 & 130 mph. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: juffo7@hotmail.com > Hi Everyone, > A friend of mine told me that he is not able to get his D past 85-87 > mph. I'm curious, did D's ever come with govenors for speed in them, or > did some North American dealers put them in aftermarket?? I'm thinking > there must be something wrong with it! If anyone could feed some > insight on this, it would be appreciated, also could someone please > tell me what the approx. top speed is? > > Thanks, > Richard ------------------------------ message 2981 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2981 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 20:57:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Door ajar light and rear window defogger Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The door lock solenoids are being activated by the (goofy) door lock module and overheating the solenoid coils. This action overheats the circuit and causes the door lock circuit breaker to open & close (clicking in the electrical compartment). This will eventually damage or burn out the door lock solenoids if it hasn't already done so. This is why we advise that the door lock module be disconnected. As I had mentioned, the door lock module is goofy. Certain voltage and or ground changes in the electrical system will cause self-activation of the module. In some cases the solenoids will burn in the locked position, this condition could leave you locked out, or even worse, being locked in your car. Not just inconvenient but very embarrassing. You can't say you weren't warned; disconnect the door lock module. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: LovDMC12@aol.com > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Door ajar light and rear window defogger > Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 2:37 PM > > I have a very strange problem. When I turn on the rear window defogger, the > door ajar light comes on and there is a clicking noise coming from the relay > compartment. What is happening? I was told to unplug the door relay from > its circuit breaker to make the locks manual and to keep from burning out the > solenoids; however, the clicking sound can still be heard if the rear > defogger is activated and the door ajar light comes on. Can anybody give me > a clue as to how to solve this? > > Brian > VIN 1597 ------------------------------ message 2982 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2982 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: PaulF52093@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 22:50:11 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Door ajar light and rear window defogger Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brian -- I'm not sure I can help wiht the rear defogger problem, but I may be able to with the "door ajar" light. Mine did the same thing for a while. If you look at the left door jamb, you'll see two small buttons that are depressed by the door as it closes. One controls the "door open" light and buzzer. If you remove the switch carefully, you can adjust a knurled nut on the back of the switches to increase or decrease sensitivity. If you move it back and forth, you should find a setting that eliminates the light coming on. BUT be sure not to bend any of the contacts on the switches, and reattach the switch carefully with the original screws. These are very flimsy and very touchy switches! Another thought ... check the strikeplates on the door itself to be sure they are firmly fastened and that they actually meet the switch plungers. Good luck! Paul Feine # 10944 ------------------------------ message 2983 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2983 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Jus4sho@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:27:52 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone added an aftermarket steering wheel to their D? I'm wondering if there are adapters listed for the D and if not, what standard vehicle spline might match? Thanks, Steve VIN 2650 ------------------------------ message 2984 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2984 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Brad Fudge" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:09:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] my aching back Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01BEFD52.5CB899A0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01BEFD52.5CB899A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I am somewhat disenchanted with my Delorean. Since purchasing my 81' D in = 3/98 I have spent over $12,000 having the car gone through by a professiona= l mechanic, bumper to bumper. The car runs and looks great but now I find = that if I drive the car on a 2 hour trip my back aches. I either need to f= ind substitute seats or sell the car in favor of a car with more supportive= seats. Has anyone replaced the stock seats and if so is there a brand rec= ommendation. You can reply to bfudge@sprynet.com if you so choose. Thanks Brad ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01BEFD52.5CB899A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
I am somewhat disenchanted with my = Delorean.  Since purchasing my 81' D in 3/98 I have spent over $12,000= = having the car gone through by a professional mechanic, bumper to bumper.&n= bsp; = The car runs and looks great but now I find that if I drive the car on a 2 = hour = trip my back aches.  I either need to find substitute seats or sell th= e car = in favor of a car with more supportive seats.  Has anyone replaced the= = stock seats and if so is there a brand recommendation.
 
 
Thanks
 
Brad
------=_NextPart_000_003D_01BEFD52.5CB899A0-- ------------------------------ message 2985 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2985 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:58:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Life of catylitic converter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Our D has 260K mi still fitted with the original converter. For every weak component in the DeLorean there are many other components that are of very high quality with extremely low failure rates. The catalytic converter is one of those items. Expected usable life 200K miles plus. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: David Sontos > To: dmcnews Newsletter > Subject: [DML] Life of catylitic converter > Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 7:58 PM > > Does anyone know the life of the catylic converter. I had an old > Bonneville with a 100K miles and the honeycomb in the converter crumbled > and plugged it up so the engine began overheating. Now that my "D" is > going on 108K I'm concerned. > > Dave Sontos > VIN 02573 ------------------------------ message 2986 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2986 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:04:23 -0600 (MDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 From: raddad@cmn.net Subject: [DML] Re: Top Speed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Richard Either your firend has a very sick DeLorean, or some dealer put a governor on it so that he couldn't possibly hit 88mph. I'd lean towards the former. Dick Ryan VIN 16867 ------------------------------ message 2987 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2987 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "SteveDMC" References: <004001befd7c$46bcc160$e3adcdcf@w-kitty-home> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 22:14:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: my aching back Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01BEFD6C.397C5F20" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BEFD6C.397C5F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable See if you can talk to Duke. I don't know if he is still with us or not.= He had an 81, auto, with black leather. He replaced his black seats with= seats from a Trans Am. If you have black seats try and see if you can loc= ate some from a trans am. You will be happy with the results. = I am really not sure if you would want to replace the seats if you have a= gray interior. It could be hard to find matching seats. Good luck and if = Duke spots this message maybe he could help you out. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BEFD6C.397C5F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
 
See if you can talk to Duke.  I don= 't know = if he is still with us or not.  He had an 81, auto, with black = leather.  He replaced his black seats with seats from a Trans = Am.  If you have black seats try and see if you can locate some from= a = trans am.  You will be happy with the results. 
 
I am really not sure if you would want t= o replace = the seats if you have a gray interior. It could be hard to find matching = seats.  Good luck and if Duke spots this message maybe he could help= you = out.
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BEFD6C.397C5F20-- ------------------------------ message 2988 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2988 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 20:30:12 -0700 From: delorean502@excite.com Subject: [DML] spraying fuel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to thank everybody for posting answers to my problem. I don't believe my fuel distributor would go bad because of me changing my spark plugs. while trying to get the spark plug cap on the VERy hard spark plug in the back I wiggled some stuff around and I believe I loosend OR cracked a fuel line. Could someone e-mail me directly on direction on how to bypass the RPM thingy? thanks for all your help. 4512 thanks you also...he wants to be on the road very soon. erik geerdink ------------------------------ message 2989 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2989 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:34:03 -0700 From: "The Genius" Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] New DMC Picture in Vault. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello List. As I was browsing through the vault at eGroups, I noticed someone uploaded a picture of what appears to be the New DeLorean. The picture seems like it was made on a computer and looks very much like a Lamborghini. Who uploaded the picture? The Genius Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com ------------------------------ message 2990 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2990 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 23:34:41 -0400 From: Richard Strecker MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19990913020558.KDGO17922@delorean> Subject: [DML] Re: Top Speed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It could be that he doesn't realize that there is a stop peg that prevents the speedo from regestering more than 85 mph............. ------------------------------ message 2991 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2991 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:06:30 +0000 From: "darryl@techline.com" Mime-version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: overheated DeLorean Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is not something to joke about. There have been far too many DeLorean engine fires, and it is a subject that seems to be very seldom discussed. Over the years I have parted out 3 DeLoreans that were destroyed by engine fires, one a twin turbo. Plus I have seen several others that I passed on due to their condition or price. DOA even published a bunch of photos some years ago of destroyed cars, but when I pointed out to them that considering the 8,000+ total run of cars, the number of ones totalled by fire was extremely high, they refused to acknowledge that there might be a problem. By comparison, Saturn recalled tens of thousands of cars when only a very small number had had fires. I asked DOA's "technical experts" to look into the problem for the good of all owners (since in our case there is no one to recall the cars) but they chose to ignore it and me, apparently presuming it would go away. That, more than my problems with DOA management, was what finally caused me to cut my ties with that group. Again, I know no one wants to hear this, but the risk of fuel fed engine fires in our cars is a major problem. You need to keep a good eye on your engine compartment, and fix any fuel leaks BEFORE ever running the car again. Remember, the fuel distributer, with 10+ fuel lines going to it, sits right over the top of the ignition distributer. And ALWAYS carry a fire extinguisher - it may save your car and your life. Lets see if the DML has the guts (which DOA did not) to tackle this issue. I hope the moderators will see fit to agree. Darryl Tinnerstet McCleary, WA ------------------------------ message 2992 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2992 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: TJzHeRe27@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:01:19 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Another DeLorean Story Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob's story about the broken down Delorean was a touching one. I wonder if he had more than "just one drink" before finding the mysterious can by his car, hmmmmm.... We have all had those "crazy" stories. As for me, I had my Delorean out one Friday night. Went back to a friend's home where I parked it (around 2:00 a.m.) and it would not start. After trying to figure out the problem I was tired and got a ride from my friend to my home. In the morning I called Rob Grady who's shop is only 20 minutes away or so. He came out with the flat-bed and I met him where the car was parked. Before putting the car on the flat-bed, Grady got in to give it a try. In 5 seconds he started the Delorean. I was in awe. This man was a God or had some supernatural power. Rob Grady got out of the car and said, "I found the problem, you had it in neutral." I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. Grady, being the genuinely nice and fair person I know him to be didn't even charge me for the trip with the flat-bed. I guess he probably figured my overwhelming embarrasment was punishment enough. Well, that is my story. Who's next. By the way, pass the marshmallows, the camp fire Delorean stories are just warming up... Todd Z. (Long Island, New York) "tjzhere27@aol.com" ------------------------------ message 2993 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2993 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Rob Hook Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 23:59:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well...I hate to start another BTTF thread but I did notice that the DeLorean used in BTTF had a different steering wheel than stock. This should at least offer some encouragement that they DO exist. Or can at least be adapted. I, for one, would love to attach a steering wheel with the horn button back where it belongs. --Rob Hook -----Original Message----- From: Jus4sho@aol.com [SMTP:Jus4sho@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 9:28 PM To: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels Has anyone added an aftermarket steering wheel to their D? I'm wondering if there are adapters listed for the D and if not, what standard vehicle spline might match? Thanks, Steve VIN 2650 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 2994 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2994 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Rob Hook Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:05:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: my aching back Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've seen at least one car for sale with Recarro seats. Also, does your DeLorean still have the adjustmet knob on it? They are prone to breaking. I used to think my DeLorean had a non-adjustable passenger seat (I'd never really bothered to look at it) until I found the broken adjustment knob in the jack storage compartmet. :) --Rob Hook -----Original Message----- From: Brad Fudge [SMTP:bfudge@sprynet.com] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 8:10 PM To: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] my aching back I am somewhat disenchanted with my Delorean. Since purchasing my 81' D in 3/98 I have spent over $12,000 having the car gone through by a professional mechanic, bumper to bumper. The car runs and looks great but now I find that if I drive the car on a 2 hour trip my back aches. I either need to find substitute seats or sell the car in favor of a car with more supportive seats. Has anyone replaced the stock seats and if so is there a brand recommendation. You can reply to bfudge@sprynet.com if you so choose. Thanks Brad ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com << File: ATT00000.htm >> ------------------------------ message 2995 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2995 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:21:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: weird blue wires/tube things Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Well it looks as if you have already thrown away $1000. Your analysis is a > lot of guess work that will get you deeper in trouble. For example, your > frequency valve does not receive a 12 volt feed to operate. Improper > testing procedures could cause serious damage to your ECU's. > > To answer your main question the two blue items are electrical connectors > connecting the impulse coil to the ignition ECU and the 02 sensor to the > Lambda ECU. Both of these units deal with very low voltages. Improper > testing can permanently damage both. > > DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / > Web Site: > > ---------- > > From: NJP548@aol.com > > Subject: [DML] weird blue wires/tube things > > Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 7:57 PM > > > > Hey list, > > > While trying to get my car to run better I came across a possible > problem that might help me. First off I have to know there are 2 > different ECU units correct? One is called the Lambda ECU and the other is the one that controls the Idle Speed Regulator, right??. I took off the wood > panel behind the drivers side and saw that there were 2 blue tube things...one > was coming off of the Lambda ECU and the other was coming from an other unit that was mounted underneath the other ECU (the one that controls the Idle Speed Regulator) One of my questions is what do these 2 blue tube things do. > And also I have no power going to my frequency valve and the Control Pressure regulator. Would that cause my car not to run right? Right now when I > turn it on the car will rev up to about 3500-4000 RMP but then if u let go of > the gas it will idle at around 1500-2000 RMP. But then when you put your > foot all the way on the gas pedal again it will work its way back up to about > 3000RMP. But again if u have your foot lightly on the gas it will go up > to about 3500RPM. At first I thought the problem was mechanical so I put a > different Fuel Distributor on it, I got new injectors, the fuel pump is > working so I am narrowing the problem down to something electrical so I > am still trying to figure it out. I am also thinking it might be the Oxygen sensor, maybe that isn't sending a pulse to the Lambda ECU and maybe thats why I don't have any power going to the Frequency Valve. Could that be apossibility? DMC Joe does that sound right? Anyways, I am selling this > car so I want to get it to run better for the future owner. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks a lot, > > Nick > > VIN# 1852....for sale....e-mail for info > > ------------------------------ message 2996 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2996 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 01:06:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: overheated DeLorean Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Darryl, I agree with your concerns but I disagree with you statistics. We have been servicing and researching DeLoreans since 1984. With hundreds of DeLoreans in our data base I know of none having engine fires. I don't know of any internal combustion engine that does not have fuel lines running near ignition sources. A fire extinguisher is a good idea in any car, the DeLorean is no more prone to engine fires than any other gasoline powered vehicle. The biggest potential for engine fires is caused by inexperienced shade-tree mechanics not using the proper techniques when servicing their cars. Lets be careful what we say about these cars on this public forum. The car already has an unfounded questionable reputation. Lets not "throw more gas on the fire" by making people think that the car will burst into flames at any moment. Lets tell the facts as they are. The DeLorean CIS fuel injection system is one of the most reliable fuel systems, built by the leader in the industry; Bosch. All the critical fuel lines are heavy duty high pressure lines with all copper and brass fittings. These fuel lines and fittings don't just fail by use or age. Owners who elect to service their own cars need to know and understand fuel system procedures & precautions. A good example is house wiring. We know that all home owner can change a light bulb, some can replace a light fixture, and few can run circuits from the service panel. All of these items can be potentially dangerous or lethal. You know as well as I that when we post messages like this one there will be many replies for the next several days that will say: "I recently heard that DeLoreans can catch on fire easily". In closing I agree with you that we should caution owners about potential fuel system fires and keep them posted on proper service techniques and periodic inspections. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ------------------------------ message 2997 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2997 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 01:11:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rob, You said: " I, for one, would love to attach a steering wheel with the horn button back where it belongs." Sounds like a good idea but did you forget about wiring ? DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ------------------------------ message 2998 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2998 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:09:41 -0800 From: ".." Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DMC-80 website? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been looking for a picture of the DMC-80, the bus. I saw one on a website along time ago but I can not seem to find it anymore. If someone knows what web site it is on or could send me the pic it would be greatly appreciated. Thank You Felix ------------------------------ message 2999 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2999 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Mike Atkinson" Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 01:44:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Rumbling Noise Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E1_01BEFD89.8C046E00" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01BEFD89.8C046E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable We recently had the left rear CV boot replaced and since then I have been n= oticing a rumbling noise coming from the rear of the car. It's not constan= t but seems to be most noticeable either while driving at a constant speed = or when letting off the gas and coasting, either way it's not always there.= Could the shop I took it to have done something to cause this, or did I j= ust not notice a problem I already had. I'm a bit puzzled by the fact I ca= nnot always hear it. For what its worth the front wheel bearings have alre= ady been replaced. Thanks Mike Atkinson vin 16232 mikeatk@concentric.net = ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01BEFD89.8C046E00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
We recently had the left rear CV= boot = replaced and since then I have been noticing a rumbling noise coming f= rom = the rear of the car.  It's not constant but seems to be most = noticeable either while driving at a constant speed or when letting of= f the = gas and coasting, either way it's not always there.  Could t= he = shop I took it to have done something to cause this, or did = I = just not notice a problem I already had.  I'm a bit puzzled by th= e = fact I cannot always hear it.  For what its worth = the front wheel bearings have alrea= dy been = replaced.
 
Thanks
 
Mike Atkinson
vin 16232
 
mikeatk@concentric.net &nbs= p;         =
------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01BEFD89.8C046E00-- ------------------------------ message 3000 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3000 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:41:27 -0600 (MDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 From: raddad@cmn.net Subject: [DML] Re: overheated DeLorean Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I asked DOA's "technical experts" to look into >the problem for the good of all owners (since in our case there is no one to >recall the cars) but they chose to ignore it and me, apparently presuming it >would go away. >Lets see if the DML has the guts (which DOA did not) to tackle this issue. >I hope the moderators will see fit to agree. --------------------------------- Darryl, and others, This was a very important posting. I agree that the DMC has had more than its share of engine fires; or at least that I have heard of more DeLorean engines fires than just about any car other than old VW's (which I also own). The reasons can be many. Howver, I don't think you can discount the fact that many of the owners are inadvertantly, either the culprits or contributors to the problem. I'm sure that Erik is not the first to loosen, tear or weaken a fuel line while changing a plug. He is fortunate in that he noticed his problem. There are a lot of lines, as you pointed out, there at the "back" of the engine. Working on the spark plugs, distributor, or just plain trying to "armorall" everything to get it to look nice can create or contribute to the problem. I won't discuss what the DOA did or did not do. I think such a conversation can too easily cause this list to degenerate into something we won't be proud of. However, if the DML members are to look to each other to find "fixes" to this problem, most of us would look to professionals to make the suggestions. That means, among others, YOURSELF. Naturally, input from some of the VERY talented back yard mechanics who own DeLoreans is invaluable, but if, in fact, a problem exists and if, in fact, a fix can be made, I would expect the LEADERS of the fix-it crew would be people like Rob Grady, Don Steger, Stephen Wynne, Joe LoRe, and Darryl Tinnerstat (any other professional automtive technicians who work on the DeLorean on a regular basis). As an owner (not as a moderator) I'd like to toss the ball back into your court. Dick Ryan VIN 16867 ------------------------------ message 3001 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3001 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:21:36 -0400 From: Mike Substelny MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: [DML] Re: New DMC Picture in Vault. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Genius wrote: > . . . I noticed someone uploaded a picture of what appears to be the New DeLorean. The > picture seems like it was made on a computer and looks very much like a Lamborghini. This photo is neither a Lambo nor a "new DeLorean." Someone has uploaded a picture of a Vector Avtech to the DML's eGroups vault. You can see the exact same picture at the following SuperCars page dedicated to the Vector Avtech WX3: http://www.supercars.net/present_cars/vector/avtech_wx3/ I assume whoever posted the picture stole it from the SuperCars site. The Vector Avtech is a nice looking car, with many DeLoreanesque styling cues. - Mike Substelny ------------------------------ message 3002 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3002 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:47:56 -0600 (MDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 From: raddad@cmn.net Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A very old issue of the DeLorean World had pictures of a DeLorean with an aftermarket steering wheel. In fact, I believe it was "detachable" as a further guard against theft of the car (that was back in the days when we owners actually thought a self-respecting thief would steal a DeLorean). Due to remodeling, my DeLorean Worlds are not readily accessible now, but perhaps someone with a lot of time on their hands might want to research this. Dick Ryan VIN 16867 ------------------------------ message 3003 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3003 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:44:27 -0400 From: Marc A Levy MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7repb5$agg7@eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: fuel pump? please help! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WHERE do you live that the guy down the street who hates DeLoreans is the only mechanic?! Check your phone book, look for mechanics that deal with foreign cars, If they specialize in Volvo's, thats a plus. Any good mechanic should be able to work on the DeLorean. True, they will not know the quirks and tricks that the DeLorean professionals know, but they should be able to get you going. delorean502@excite.com wrote: > > what needs to be fixed? i need some help. I really dont want to send > it to the people down the street that can fix it, but HATE deloreans > more than a punch in the face. any advise would be great. ------------------------------ message 3004 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3004 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:04:05 -0400 From: Marc A Levy MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6dcee72.250c32b9@aol.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Turbo and Audio Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I see the turbo question was already answered.. The DeLorean dash board has a metal plate that is cut for a older style shaft radio. (Part # 106639, Page 7-3-0) There on not many of them left, so when you find them they are expensive. Some owners have chosen to not cut the plate, and install a newer shaft style unit. Kenwood had (I think it was discontinued recently) a unit that was shaft style, and would control a CD changer. If you can still find one, (Model 3001) they had a reasonable price. If you want a basic system, or even a single amplifier this is a good choice. If you are a audio maniac (like myself) I dont think this unit will meet your requirements. Other owners have simply cut the plate. I am currently in the situation of making this decision. I have my speaker box almost complete (details to follow), all the amplifiers and speakers are in my garage, and the DIN style head unit is in the mail. The way I look at it, my choices are: 1. Cut the thing, and destroy a rare original part. 2. Wait until I find someone who has one that is cut already that wants to go back to stock. 3. Wait until someone makes a aftermarket reproduction at a reasonable price. 4. Have a reproduction made locally. The real WAY out option is to hope that someone makes a high quality shaft style CD controller or MP3 player. As far as "how" to cut, any decent car stereo installer should be able to cut it for you. TTanaka504@aol.com wrote: > > I hear that we need to cut some place to install a car stereo > unit. How can you done? > ------------------------------ message 3005 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3005 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:25:25 -0700 From: fen2k@yahoo.com Subject: [DML] Repair questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Im thinking of buying an 81 dmc with 48 miles that was rebuilt in 91 at delorean one, there are a couple things wrong with the car and i wanted some advice of the cost of repair and what the problems could really be. 1. Air Condtioning It blows hot air out, the seller says all it needs is freeon? 2. passenger window goes up and down but is off the track. 3. Steering when you turn the wheel it has a "notchy" feel to it, again the seller says it just needs a minor piece. 4. Master cyclinder was replace but he says the cluth could use some tweaking. I live in the Washington DC area, i know of pj's in new york but im wondering if anyone knows of a place here in dc that is somewhat dmc savy. Thanks for your advice!! ------------------------------ message 3006 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3006 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <852567EA.00532660.00@D51MTA10.pok.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:29:49 -0500 From: James Espey Subject: [DML] Re: dash crack Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 10:07 AM -0500 9/12/99, magriese@us.ibm.com wrote: >Erik wrote: >the old core. I have use both processes with excellent long term >success. The current price for a new DeLorean dash pad is around >$625. Just Dashes will recover your old dash with an exact match >vinyl grain for less than that. Ehhh, not in my experience. Just Dashes does NOT match the grain exactly on either dashes or binnacles. A year or so ago I took them an old dash and binnacle as part of an article I was preparing for DMC-News, and the results were so bad (IMO), that I scrapped the article and the parts. Unless they've made some DRATIC changes in the last 10-14 months, I'd steer clear of them. James James Espey DeLorean Motor Company Houston, Texas 281/568-9573 800/USA-DMC1 http://www.usadmc.com ------------------------------ message 3007 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3007 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:02:05 -0700 From: AJL521@aol.com In-Reply-To: Subject: [DML] Re: fuel pump? please help! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ajl52-@aol.com wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=2966 > Erik, > > The part you're describing is the fuel distributor. My limited understanding , that a new distributor costs around $1800 to > $2000. Hello All, I was able to get a fuel distributor for just under $1000. But I have found even a better source, If you tell PEP BOYS that you need a fuel distributor for an 81 Volvo with a 2.8 V6. they pull up a remanufactored one for only $495.00! Some may say its better to go with an oem part, but theres a big differance between $2000 and $495. Next time I stop at Pep Boys I will get the part number on it also for anyone interested Andrew 4194 ------------------------------ message 3008 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3008 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Macstacker@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:58:13 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] NEWSFLASH, delorean.com changes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok Delorean afficinados go immiediatly to www.delorean.com. these are the big changes. The d=MC2 logo has been stylized a bit more with some sun reflection, additionally click on it to see some kind of watch looking thingy announcing that the time is near. Im probly late on this but its 1pm on monday and im assuming that im one of the first to notice this. Dan Gompper No vin Yet 90 Cutlass supreame ------------------------------ message 3009 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3009 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "robert parker" Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:11:43 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Tire Balancing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I ONLY spin-balance ALL my cars' tires on the vehicle. (38 Buick, 78 Volare,81 DeLorean). More than just the tire/wheel roatate thus all should be in balance. Of course, marke the position of the wheel so remounting will be in the same position. Check with shop that work on tractor/trailer tires as they are spun on the vehicle. Tulsa Auto Spring is the only place I know of in my neck of the woods;~$5/wheel. Drive Stainless Robert VIN 6924 >From: DeLorean31@aol.com >Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com >To: dmcnews@egroups.com >Subject: [DML] Tire Balancing >Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 02:55:21 EDT > >I recently purcahsed the Yokohamas for my D. I was wondering how many >owners >have had them spin balanced while on the car or do most people just balance >the tires on the rims while they are off the car? Before I search for a >shop >that can spin balance on the car, is the ride just as well if I have my >mechanic balance them while he has them off the car? Also should the >alignment be checked or anything else done while changing the tires? > >Gary >VIN3360 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address >moderator@dmcnews.com > > ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ message 3010 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3010 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:39:30 -0500 From: "William F. Lane" MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7rh985$kjf4@eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Top Speed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My D is only beginning to breathe well at 85mph and that is in 3rd gear! I don't know what the top end would be because I have backed off at about 95. I value my D and my life and license too much to go any further. By the way, it's a single BAE Turbo but this didn't have anything to do with the speed, just the speed at which you get there! Bill Lane Vin 3635 juffo7@hotmail.com wrote: > Hi Everyone, > A friend of mine told me that he is not able to get his D past 85-87 > mph. I'm curious, did D's ever come with govenors for speed in them, or > did some North American dealers put them in aftermarket?? I'm thinking > there must be something wrong with it! If anyone could feed some > insight on this, it would be appreciated, also could someone please > tell me what the approx. top speed is? > > Thanks, > Richard > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 3011 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3011 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:51:06 -0700 From: delorean502@excite.com Subject: [DML] new engine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've always wondered how much it would cost to buy a brand new Delorean engine and the cost to install it. does anybody have a clue? ------------------------------ message 3012 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3012 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:11:22 -0700 From: delorean502@excite.com In-Reply-To: Subject: [DML] Re: headliners Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The actual core itself is coming down, not the fabric. To put it another way, if i pulled on what is falling down, and it came off, i would see stainless steel from the door. erik ------------------------------ message 3013 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3013 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:09:53 -0700 From: delorean502@excite.com Subject: [DML] fuel leak Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In not very technical but here goes...bear with me: when I was changing my sparkplugs I moved the thing around that is on top of the hardest sparkplug to change. That thing has a tube that goes down and into the middle of the engine. I moved that around quite a bit and I was wondering if that caused the fuel to spray. I probably didnt make any sense, but hopefully someone out there understood. any answers would be great. erik p.s i dont know if it is my hoses since the fuel was coming from between the distributor and what evers underneath that. ------------------------------ message 3014 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3014 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:41:40 -0400 From: Donald Kazmark MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7rh985$kjf4@eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Top Speed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's possible that if he has a 5-speed the clutch could be worn and slipping..... > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 3015 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3015 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:52:24 -0700 From: "eGroups.com Poll Results" Subject: [DML] Voting Results: DeLorean Mailing List Polls Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here are the results of the vote: 1. I don't have an opinion at all 1 2. I don't know how 2 3. Nobody cares what I think 2 4. I'll answer the next one, I promise! 8 5. I answered this one, didn't I? 15 ------------------------------ message 3016 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3016 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Scucci" References: <3afc37de.250dad18@aol.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:59:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is a picture of an AMAZING DeLorean at: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm It is the red one with red interior, submitted by Shannon. It has the coolest looking steering wheel I've ever seen on it, so I know that you can find ones that will fit. Maybe if they're on this list they'll add their two cents on where to get something like that... (Also check out the rest of the interior, very nice) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 8:27 PM Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels > Has anyone added an aftermarket steering wheel to their D? I'm wondering if > there are adapters listed for the D and if not, what standard vehicle spline > might match? > > Thanks, > Steve > VIN 2650 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > > ------------------------------ message 3017 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3017 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Richard Petrie" Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 16:28:40 CDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Top Speed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone! Thanks for the input. My friend doesn't pay attention to his D which is sad, but I spoke to him,and he's going to have it looked at!! -It would be just like him not to notice the needle stopper at 85, but he said he had noticed that =) Richard ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ message 3018 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3018 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: PaulF52093@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:00:00 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: overheated DeLorean Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you VERY much for your sensible and well-worded remarks concerning the "fire hazard" issue. Yes, we should all be cautious. But no, we should not be paranoid. And I concur with your assessment that DeLorean "fires" are quite likely no more prevalent than with other vehicles, and are likely the result of non-professionals (like myself) tinkering with various systems. With a little judicious caution and some common sense, most of us can keep our D's in service and enjoyable for years to come. Thanks again! Paul Feine # 10944 ------------------------------ message 3019 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3019 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: ABatt10347@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:01:39 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Doors locked and fires Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First of all I'm NOT locked out of my D, but since DMCJoe brought it up. If one locks themselves out of their Delorean, and slim jims do not work, then how do you get into it? Second, thank you Darryl for the info on possible fires in the Delorean. I whole heartedly agree with you about always having a fire extinguisher. Anyone who has ever had a fire in the engine knows that the price of the extinguisher is less than the hassle of replacing the engine or car. Last but not least is my newest Delorean saga. I was going to Walmart last week, pulled up into the lot and a small boy about 8 comes running over. He was happy until I got out, he thought that Michael J. Fox was driving. Seems that BTTF has been playing on TV a lot in the last few weeks. Bruce Battles Vin #06569 ------------------------------ message 3020 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3020 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 17:09:56 -0600 From: Greg Guillot MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That steering wheel is a modified stock unit. I have heard that there are some MOMO wheels that will fit. Apparently, if you get the proper MOMO wheel adapter, many other aftermarket wheels will bolt onto the MOMO adapter. I have yet to find out which MOMO adapter is the one that fits our cars. On 13 Sep 99, at 15:59, Scucci wrote: > There is a picture of an AMAZING DeLorean at: > http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm > > It is the red one with red interior, submitted by Shannon. It has the > coolest looking steering wheel I've ever seen on it, so I know that you can > find ones that will fit. Maybe if they're on this list they'll add their > two cents on where to get something like that... > > > (Also check out the rest of the interior, very nice) ************************************************ Morial Convention Center - New Orleans Greg Guillot, Director of Info Systems & Services 900 Convention Center Blvd,New Orleans, LA 70130 Phone (504) 582-3116,Fax (504) 582-3104 Email gguillot@mccno.com ************************************************ ------------------------------ message 3021 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3021 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Montgomery, Ken" Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:13:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Radio cutout/ was: Turbo and Audio Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The DeLorean dash board has a metal plate that is cut for a > older style shaft radio. (Part # 106639, Page 7-3-0) > > There on not many of them left, so when you find them they are > expensive. > > Some owners have chosen to not cut the plate, and install a > newer shaft style unit. Kenwood had (I think it was discontinued > recently) a unit that was shaft style, and would control a CD > changer. If you can still find one, (Model 3001) they had a > reasonable price. If you want a basic system, or even a single > amplifier this is a good choice. If you are a audio maniac > (like myself) I dont think this unit will meet your requirements. > > Other owners have simply cut the plate. I am currently in > the situation of making this decision. I have my speaker box > almost complete (details to follow), all the amplifiers and > speakers are in my garage, and the DIN style head unit is in > the mail. The way I look at it, my choices are: > > 1. Cut the thing, and destroy a rare original part. > 2. Wait until I find someone who has one that is cut already > that wants to go back to stock. > 3. Wait until someone makes a aftermarket reproduction at a reasonable price. > 4. Have a reproduction made locally. > > The real WAY out option is to hope that someone makes a high > quality shaft style CD controller or MP3 player. > > As far as "how" to cut, any decent car stereo installer should be able to cut it for you. I went ahead and cut the plate. I don't feel that this hurts the value of the car because kits are made to switch a DIN cutout back to a shaft style. Put in one of those and the stock radio and you won't be able to tell the difference. This is a minor originality item compared to the major difference it makes to have a clean sounding stereo. OK, it'll cost you a few points in your next concours, but I like to drive my car too, not just show it. However, great care should be taken when cutting the opening. Unless you're very good at such work I wouldn't recommend doing it yourself. ================================================================ Ken Montgomery Sacramento, CA VIN #10911 'OUTTIME' http://www.jps.net/arkham/delorean01.htm mailto:kenm@csus.edu Northern California DeLorean Motor Club http://members.tripod.com/ncdmc/ Keeper of the DeLorean Owners Directory http://www.dmcnews.com mailto:directory@dmcnews.com ================================================================ ------------------------------ message 3022 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3022 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Hart, Paul" Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:12:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you look close, and are familiar with ORIGINAL pieces - you will agree that this is an original wheel, with the center covered in fabric and the "top-arch" cut out and extension handles inserted, doesn't seem too safe or cool to me. Regards Paul C. Hart SITE Testing - Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. Email: paul.hart@schwab.com Phone: 1 (415) 636-8741 Mail: SF101MNT - 11 - 151 Text Page : 1 (888) 798-8763 WARNING: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. corporate e-mail system and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. ---------- From: Scucci [SMTP:tedescucci@sprintmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 1:59 PM To: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels There is a picture of an AMAZING DeLorean at: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm It is the red one with red interior, submitted by Shannon. It has the coolest looking steering wheel I've ever seen on it, so I know that you can find ones that will fit. Maybe if they're on this list they'll add their two cents on where to get something like that... (Also check out the rest of the interior, very nice) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 8:27 PM Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels > Has anyone added an aftermarket steering wheel to their D? I'm wondering if > there are adapters listed for the D and if not, what standard vehicle spline > might match? > > Thanks, > Steve > VIN 2650 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 3023 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3023 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: NJP548@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:43:42 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: weird blue wires/tube things Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/13/99 5:50:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DMCJOE@att.net writes: << Well it looks as if you have already thrown away $1000. >> Haha Guess what....I got the fuel distributor for FREE yes FREE so actually it didn't cost me anything. And what do you mean by improper guess work? I'm not doing anything to them at all. If the control pressure regulator and the frequency valve aren't buzzing when their supposed to then there is a problem. I just wanted to know which direction to go into Later, Nick ------------------------------ message 3024 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3024 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Comet42483@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:54:53 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Turbo and Audio Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We recently had a new Stereo system installed and they had to cut the plate, it may be an original part but our new stereo is such an improvement.... (the original ate any tape placed in it, and the display was useless) We bought a kenwood KDC-8011, the price was high but the face plate hides the stereo when the car is turned off, its really cool and "tricky" much like the car ------------------------------ message 3025 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3025 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 17:41:38 -0500 From: dongowler MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Wheel Value Stems & Caps Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have noticed many different valve stems and caps on our DeLorean's wheels. Some have long black plastic valve stems, others have short black ones, others have black plastic with a white plastic air release piece and yet others have what appears to be stainless steel valve stems. The caps I have noticed are black plastic, brass, stainless steel and none at all on the stems with the white air release piece. Can anyone tell us what the factory produced by Vin #? It's a concours issue. Regards, The Silver Fox Vin #'s 01149 & 10788 ------------------------------ message 3026 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3026 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: WINGD2@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:08:11 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Turbo and Audio Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/13/99 4:51:43 PM Central Daylight Time, malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com writes: << The DeLorean dash board has a metal plate that is cut for a older style shaft radio. (Part # 106639, Page 7-3-0) There on not many of them left, so when you find them they are expensive. >> Marc, This is another item a couple of us have been working on for a little while and we just about have it finished. When complete, we will be able to offer a complete replacement panel made to either replace the original to fit the stock radio, or a custom panel cut out to fit whatever radio face you want. The vents and controls will fit this new panel the same as stock. (Note, this custom panel is still limited to YOU making sure the radio you choose will fit in the space available ) All you will have to do is send us a cutout diagram for the radio you are going to use and we will fabricate a complete panel assembly to fit. This way you will be able to save your "original" panel for later replacement if you want to go back with the stock radio. We are working on having these panel assemblies ready in time for the DOA Expo. Cost is going to be in the $100 to $150 range. If anyone has any interest, please e-mail me directly. Thanks, Marty ------------------------------ message 3027 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3027 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 99 20:42:30 -0500 From: Kelvin Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: NEWSFLASH, delorean.com changes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Ok Delorean afficinados go immiediatly to www.delorean.com. these are the >big changes. The d=MC2 logo has been stylized a bit more with some sun >reflection, additionally click on it to see some kind of watch looking >thingy yes, I saw these the other day too. I didn't want my first post to this list to be a negative one, but what the heck... Personally, I was not impressed at all. Very simple and overwieght typographic treatment with cheese-o-la lens flair effects straight out of the box. I guess I expected a little more from John D. My appologies if the person who did this site is on this list, but I call 'em as I see 'em. I hope this site is no reflection on how the new car is going to turn out. All glitz and no substance... Can I help it if I'm a graphic design professor? On a lighter note: Kudos to all the people on this list who have offered advice and opinions. This list has convinced me that there is a great community to rely on and I have decided to buy a D after years of internal debate after being on this list only 2 months. I'm looking for one in the $12k range if anyone has any ideas... Thanks everyone! __________________________ Kelvin Mason Assistant Professor of Art West Virginia Wesleyan College 1-(304)-473-8588 ------------------------------ message 3028 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3028 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Christopher Hawes" Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:38:42 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rob, it was the same factory steering wheel with a couple of switches added!! You can get aftermarket wheels. If you look in Delorean World one guy had devised a detachable wheel for security reasons.... Christopher M. Hawes DMD (Delorean Model Dealership) ------------------------------ message 3029 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3029 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:04:44 -0700 From: cbl302@msn.com In-Reply-To: <7rjh2q$usnq@eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: new engine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cbl30-@msn.com wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=3011 > I've always wondered how much it would cost to buy a brand new Delorean > engine and the cost to install it. does anybody have a clue? > About the price of a used Delorean ($8000.00-$12000.00) ------------------------------ message 3030 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3030 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:10:54 -0700 From: cbl302@msn.com In-Reply-To: Subject: [DML] Re: NEWSFLASH, delorean.com changes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cbl30-@msn.com wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=3008 > Ok Delorean afficinados go immiediatly to www.delorean.com. these are the > big changes. The d=MC2 logo has been stylized a bit more with some sun > reflection, additionally click on it to see some kind of watch looking thingy > announcing that the time is near. Im probly late on this but its 1pm on > monday and im assuming that im one of the first to notice this. > > > Dan Gompper > No vin Yet > 90 Cutlass supreame Is this Somebodys Idea of Selling D=MC2 Stainless Steel Watches? ------------------------------ message 3031 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3031 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Myers23@webtv.net (Robert Myers) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:16:27 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: "DMC Joe" 's message of Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:58:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Subject: [DML] Re: Life of catylitic converter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know what is cooler? The fact that a part actually last that long, or that you have actually put over 250k miles on the car. My hat is off to you. Finally someone else who buys a car to drive it and not store it. R.M. # 01327 ------------------------------ message 3032 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=3032 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: CBL302@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:32:02 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] (no subject) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is a unbuilt STOCK 1/24 Delorean model (not a matchbox size) for Bid on E-BAY,high bid is $70.00 looks really nice.Item #163922019. Claude Vin#006383 ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- View the full archives, subscribe/unsubscribe, use the group calendar at http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews Manage your subscriptions at http://eGroups.com Free e-mail groups by eGroups.com. 
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