From: eGroups Digest [dmcnews@egroups.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 12:02 PM To: David.Swingle Subject: dmcnews digest eGroups Daily Digest: dmcnews has 52 new messages. Click here http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=570 to read them. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 570. t.mickel@worldnet.att.net [DML] Need help analyzing frame rust 571. James Espey [DML] Where are they now? (was: Some questions br 572. Paraversal@aol.com [DML] Re: Some questions brought up by E! 573. James Espey [DML] JZD's address 574. Alex Krochmal [DML] No Subject 575. dtaylor2@neo.rr.com [DML] DMC font.... 576. Justin9593@aol.com [DML] Front Damaged DeLorean 577. magriese@us.ibm.com [DML] Re: Front Damaged DeLorean 578. Macstacker@aol.com [DML] Re: Front Damaged DeLorean 579. Hank Breer [DML] Re: DMC font.... 580. Scot Layman [DML] Cleveland Show??? 581. Brian J McCool [DML] RE:JZD and Isdera 582. NELLYMAC1@aol.com [DML] Re: Hoods. Whats that all about? 583. Montgomery, Ken [DML] Re: N. Cal show on May 16 and a new web sit 584. Iznodmad@aol.com [DML] consumer purchasing 585. Pegasus [DML] Re: Front Damaged DeLorean 586. Sean Jones [DML] Re: consumer purchasing 587. Josh Haldeman [DML] Re: consumer purchasing 588. LovDMC12@aol.com [DML] Re: consumer purchasing 589. DMC Joe [DML] Re: Front Damaged DeLorean 590. Jus4sho@aol.com [DML] Re: consumer purchasing 591. Jdsjlv@aol.com [DML] Ed Bernstein 592. Ghostridr2@aol.com [DML] Which bulb? 593. Stian Birkeland [DML] Re: Front Damaged DeLorean / THE VIN MYSTER 594. Mike Substelny [DML] DML: Consumer Purchasing Thread 595. SweatyEddy [DML] Re: consumer purchasing 596. Sean Jones [DML] Re: Ed Bernstein 597. robert parker [DML] Re: Top speed of Auto D's, and slowing down 598. DeLorean31@aol.com [DML] Re: Front Damaged DeLorean / THE VIN MYSTER 599. Paraversal@aol.com [DML] Re: consumer purchasing 600. Richard Strecker [DML] Re: Cleveland Show??? 601. KIRK BRANDON [DML] Re: [ consumer purchasing] 602. Gussob@aol.com [DML] Re: consumer purchasing 603. Gussob@aol.com [DML] I'd like to thank..... 604. LovDMC12@aol.com [DML] Large electrical diagrams 605. LovDMC12@aol.com [DML] Re: consumer purchasing 606. LovDMC12@aol.com [DML] Re: Ed Bernstein 607. LovDMC12@aol.com [DML] Brit car show in Charleston 608. NJP548@aol.com [DML] Re: consumer purchasing 609. Albert Siegel [DML] Re: Need help analyzing frame rust 610. CBL302@aol.com [DML] Re: Front Damaged DeLorean 611. Iznodmad@aol.com [DML] Good experiences... 612. Marc Barth [DML] Re: consumer purchasing 613. The Haney's [DML] Re: Top speed of Auto D's 614. Marc Barth [DML] Re: Front Damaged DeLorean / THE VIN MYSTER 615. DMC Joe [DML] Re: Which bulb? 616. DMC Joe [DML] Re: Front Damaged DeLorean / THE VIN MYSTER 617. CBL302@aol.com [DML] Delorean on PBS (Public Broadcasting System 618. James Espey [DML] Re: THE VIN MYSTERY 619. DMC Joe [DML] Re: Good experiences... 620. Oh Henry [DML] Neat photos of lowered DeLorean 621. Brian Henderlong [DML] Re: Production Chronology ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 570 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=570 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:44:55 -0000 From: t.mickel@worldnet.att.net Subject: [DML] Need help analyzing frame rust Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need help analyzing frame rust and deciding on a course of action for my 1981. I live in S. Florida and can pay expenses for someone who is relatively close. Anyone with experience interested? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 571 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=571 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 08:32:55 -0000 From: James Espey Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Where are they now? (was: Some questions brought up by E!) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >On another note, what happened to Bill Collins, Bill Haddad, Dick Brown, and >the secretary who informed a member of parliament about what she considered >improprieties at DMC? I can't remember her name. I have been looking for Bill COllins for some time to no avail. It's even possible that he may have passed away. Bill Haddad I believe is working as a consultant/lobbyist in New York state. Very bitter still about the JZD/DMC ordeal. C.R. "Dick" Brown briefly did consulting for Avanti and Zimmer. He also worked for Kia, I believe. He was the keynote speaker at the DOA expo last fall in LA. I believe he is nor semi-retired and does some consulting. The secretary, Marian Gibson, lives in NY state, I think. She reads the DML and posts periodically, but without blatantly identifying herself. James ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 572 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=572 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Paraversal@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:29:18 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Some questions brought up by E! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As far as Bill Collins goes, he left DeLorean Motor Company sometime Circa 1980, prior to the completion of the 2nd generation prototype DeLorean (which is the one closest to the final product) Basically, Collins signed on with John Z right at the very start up of DMC in the mid 1970s. Collins had worked together with DeLorean back at General Motors on several projects from the Banshee and Firebird to the infamous Vega. John DeLorean had a friendship with Bill Collins and had great respect for him as an engineer, thus when DeLorean started his own company, he hired Collins away from GM and a promising offer at AMC to become the Chief Engineer over at DMC. The first prototypes of the DeLorean (with the sharper lines and tan interior) were all created and engineered by Collins and his small team of workers. At this time, DeLorean was still engineering the car independently. When John DeLorean contracted Lotus to do most of the work, Collins felt somewhat betrayed. The engineers at Lotus made fun of Collins and his work with the first DMC for the stupidest reasons. Collins work was constantly being made fun of and reworked by Lotus which really got to Collins. At this point he finally broke and turned in his resignation to John DeLorean, who at that time really didn't seem to care that much. All of this a year or so prior to the introduction of the DeLorean DMC-12. Collins left DeLorean and started an RV conversion company with another individual and some investors, however I'm not sure if this company is still in business. C.R. Brown left DeLorean at the very end of the company's odyssey, I believe when they went bankrupt and were bought out by Consolidated. I THINK he went on to a Vice Presidential job at Mazda or something, but Im not sure. Anyone else know? Justin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 573 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=573 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:07:10 -0000 From: James Espey Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] JZD's address Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit JZD has requested that his home address no longer be publicly distributed. He has given this address for general correspondence: John Z. DeLorean P.O. Box 285 Pluckemin, New Jersey 07978-9998 James ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 574 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=574 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Alex Krochmal" Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:06:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] No Subject Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Did John DeLorean have anything to do with the Isdera Commendatore 112i or any of the other 2 cars produced by Isdera? I have heard both yes and no. --Alex-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 575 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=575 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:53:59 -0000 From: dtaylor2@neo.rr.com Subject: [DML] DMC font.... Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I saw a posting about the DMC font and I did'nt catch where to get it. Can someone post it again. Thanks Donnie ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 576 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=576 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Justin9593@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:55:14 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Front Damaged DeLorean Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found a DeLorean for sale with the front of the Car all the way to the front wheels smashed in. The Car runs great and the interior is great. Does anyone have any Idea How much it would cost to fix the Front of the DeLorean???? Any opinion would be helpful Thanks Justin Kellogg Vin# Not Yet ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 577 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=577 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: magriese@us.ibm.com Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:00:48 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Front Damaged DeLorean Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Probably more than the car is worth. The left front fender alone will run $1500 - $3000. Take a look at the parts catalog at the DMC website to get an idea what the major components will cost and then double the cost to cover labor and the miscellaneous stuff you will run into once you get started. Unfortunately, DeLoreans with major body damage are worth more as parts than the difference between it's maximum selling price and the amount you have to spend to restore the car. Mike Griese Storage Software Development Manager IBM Storage Systems Division Rochester, MN 55901 Internet: magriese@us.ibm.com voice: (507)253-1853 fax: (507)253-2880 Justin9593@aol.com on 05/18/99 02:55:14 PM Please respond to dmcnews@egroups.com To: dmcnews@egroups.com cc: (bcc: Mike Griese/Rochester/IBM) Subject: [DML] Front Damaged DeLorean I found a DeLorean for sale with the front of the Car all the way to the front wheels smashed in. The Car runs great and the interior is great. Does anyone have any Idea How much it would cost to fix the Front of the DeLorean???? Any opinion would be helpful Thanks Justin Kellogg Vin# Not Yet ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 578 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=578 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Macstacker@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:18:57 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Front Damaged DeLorean Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit how much they want for it? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 579 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=579 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:25:34 -0700 From: Hank Breer MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7hsggn$h5l7@eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: DMC font.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Donnie, Try Axe Creatives Computer Svces 35 Parkway Dr NW Commack NY 11725 Phone: (516) 864-4907 (not sure if area code is still current) Hank Breer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 580 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=580 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Scot Layman" Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:53:13 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Cleveland Show??? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe someone on the list mentioned an upcoming show in Cleveland. Could someone please give me the details of this show? If I misread the message I apologize. I am 17 years old and live in the Erie, PA area, and this would be a show that I could actually attend! I have never seen a DeLorean in person but I know that someday I will own one. Thanks in advance. Scot Layman _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 581 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=581 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Brian J McCool" Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:28:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] RE:JZD and Isdera Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01BEA15C.4B2DABA0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01BEA15C.4B2DABA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I haven't heard any references to JZD and Isdera. Isdera is actually run by= a german man named Eberhard Schultz. I've got a road and track review on t= he Imperator somewhere. There is also a web page for a newer car from Isder= a called the 112i Commendatore. Every time a gullwing car is made, rumours = start circulating that JZD is involved, I have a feeling this is just anoth= er rumour, Isdera has been around since the late 80's. http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/1959/isdera.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01BEA15C.4B2DABA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
I haven't heard any references to JZD and Isdera= . = Isdera is actually run by a german man named Eberhard Schultz. I've got a r= oad = and track review on the Imperator somewhere. There is also a web page for a= = newer car from Isdera called the 112i Commendatore. Every time a gullwing c= ar is = made, rumours start circulating that JZD is involved, I have a feeling this= is = just another rumour, Isdera has been around since the late 80's.
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit to place "delorean" and "beetle" in the same line stopped me reading the rest !!! but where did you get the model????!!! neil 2119 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 583 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=583 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Montgomery, Ken" Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:59:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: N. Cal show on May 16 and a new web site Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody! I think Dave did a great job of summing up our day at the car show in Dixon. The most I can add is add is some photos. I now have a web site on-line for the club. The address is: http://members.tripod.com/ncdmc/ Look at the 'Events and Meets' page for pictures from the show. Sorry about the sunburn Dave. I should have loaned you my sunblock! We'll have info on our next meet soon, and we may even do something this fall with the So. Cal club. The central coast is so pretty in the fall. > Just thought I'd give a little report on the show.. I'm sure > Ken will chime in and give greater detail about the show, but here's the > quicky rundown... ================================================================ Ken Montgomery Sacramento, CA VIN #10911 'OUTTIME' http://www.jps.net/arkham/delorean01.htm kenm@csus.edu ================================================================ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 584 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=584 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Iznodmad@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:23:02 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] consumer purchasing Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear DML, Okay, I have heard all the horror stories about Delorean One and I never actually understood what the hype was about until I called there myself looking for a part. Ed answered the phone and I told him what I was looking for. However after a bit of talking he refused to sell me a part after I told him I had shopped around elsewhere. He told me he "Did not consider me a customer of his and he would not sell his "other customers parts" to me who was looking for the "cheap" way out." The American Government has never allowed monopolies on anything consumer related. I thought competition was what makes our economy thrive?! I just wanted to share my unhappiest experience since owning my Delorean with the rest of you. For those of you that do business with Ed, I commend you on your ability to communicate with one of the most narrow-minded persons on the face of this planet. From now on I hope to have more pleasant stories to share with you all. On a final note, please support your FRIENDLY Delorean parts suppliers. Regards, Darren Decker ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 585 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=585 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Pegasus" Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:50:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Front Damaged DeLorean Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit as far i can tel as a former bodyworker when you would give me the parts id would kost you abouth $ 4.000,-- til $6.000,-- (depending at the job to get it done) parts would be arround $9.000,-- til 12.000,-- (depending on what is damaged) that could be allready $ 18.000,-- plus the wrack you must payI think they wil ask between $ 4.000,-- and $ 5.000,-- because it looks nice this wil bring the car over $ 22.000,-- But you wil have a running accident. For this price I think you are able to get something thats OK pay and drive.......!!!!! good luck. Jean -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Justin9593@aol.com Aan: dmcnews@egroups.com Datum: dinsdag 18 mei 1999 23:00 Onderwerp: [DML] Front Damaged DeLorean >I found a DeLorean for sale with the front of the Car all the way to the >front wheels smashed in. The Car runs great and the interior is great. Does >anyone have any Idea How much it would cost to fix the Front of the >DeLorean???? >Any opinion would be helpful >Thanks >Justin Kellogg >Vin# Not Yet > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >@Backup - The #1 Online Backup Service >Automatic, Safe, Reliable Backup and Restores. FREE for >30 Days. INSTALL Now and have a chance to win a Palm Pilot V! >http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/218 > > >eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews >http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 586 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=586 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:00:07 -0400 From: Sean Jones MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: [DML] Re: consumer purchasing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Alot of places are like that in the part world. Say your exhaust had a hole in it and you want to fix it. Auto parts places what to stick it on to get to to pay there hig labor costs. You should try pj grady, i've heard alot of good nes from him. Let him deal with the jerks of this world to get his parts. - Shain Iznodmad@aol.com wrote: > Dear DML, > Okay, I have heard all the horror stories about Delorean One and I never > actually understood what the hype was about until I called there myself > looking for a part. Ed answered the phone and I told him what I was looking > for. However after a bit of talking he refused to sell me a part after I > told him I had shopped around elsewhere. He told me he "Did not consider me > a customer of his and he would not sell his "other customers parts" to me who > was looking for the "cheap" way out." The American Government has never > allowed monopolies on anything consumer related. I thought competition was > what makes our economy thrive?! I just wanted to share my unhappiest > experience since owning my Delorean with the rest of you. For those of you > that do business with Ed, I commend you on your ability to communicate with > one of the most narrow-minded persons on the face of this planet. From now > on I hope to have more pleasant stories to share with you all. On a final > note, please support your FRIENDLY Delorean parts suppliers. > > Regards, > Darren Decker > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > BrainPlay.com has 10,000 gift ideas for kids! And, for a > limited time, you'll receive FREE SHIPPING on every toy, > video game, software title, video, and more at BrainPlay.com! > http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/263 > > eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 587 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=587 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:44:19 -0400 From: Josh Haldeman MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: [DML] Re: consumer purchasing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Darren, I couldn't agree with your assessment more! I made the mistake of e-mailing D1 through their web site before Christmas of last year to see what they were all about. Before they could tell me anything they demanded my full VIN number for there records. (no big deal, I thought) Then I asked what it would cost to order a new set of headliners and a new dashboard cover. They promptly told me that they were too busy to take on any new customers at the moment, and that I should call back around March (This was December!) Mind you I did not ask them for any service, I simply asked for the parts themselves! At this point I knew I'd never do business with them under any circumstances, but I had just bought my DeLorean, and I was interested in knowing how much some general parts were for the car. I knew I took another risk of getting treated badly, but I still decided to ask them if they had a parts catalog that they could mail me. They never did reply to my e-mail, and about a month later I got a xeroxed copy of a brochure through the mail. I didn't think much of it at the time, until I went back to their web site, (by accident of course!) and found out that they had a full color catalog of parts that was not even close to what I had received! I was interested in knowing why I was not eligible for this luxury. What had I done? Did I offend them in some manner? Perhaps these people could stand to take the course in marketing that I'm taking now at Ohio State. We have learned that companies that exist to achieve customer satisfaction often survive for a long time, whereas companies that exist to achieve only a profit die quickly. Would you trust a company that obviously doesn't know this basic fact, with your car? Do yourself a favor, and look elsewhere when you need parts and service for your cars. I highly recommend Bauerle Automotive in Ohio and the DeLorean Motor Company in Houston, Texas. They know what they are doing! Josh VIN 5102 Iznodmad@aol.com wrote: > Dear DML, > Okay, I have heard all the horror stories about Delorean One and I never > actually understood what the hype was about until I called there myself > looking for a part. Ed answered the phone and I told him what I was looking > for. However after a bit of talking he refused to sell me a part after I > told him I had shopped around elsewhere. He told me he "Did not consider me > a customer of his and he would not sell his "other customers parts" to me who > was looking for the "cheap" way out." The American Government has never > allowed monopolies on anything consumer related. I thought competition was > what makes our economy thrive?! I just wanted to share my unhappiest > experience since owning my Delorean with the rest of you. For those of you > that do business with Ed, I commend you on your ability to communicate with > one of the most narrow-minded persons on the face of this planet. From now > on I hope to have more pleasant stories to share with you all. On a final > note, please support your FRIENDLY Delorean parts suppliers. > > Regards, > Darren Decker > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > BrainPlay.com has 10,000 gift ideas for kids! And, for a > limited time, you'll receive FREE SHIPPING on every toy, > video game, software title, video, and more at BrainPlay.com! > http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/263 > > eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 588 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=588 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: LovDMC12@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:01:43 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: consumer purchasing Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had a similar experience with DeLorean One right after I purchased my DeLorean. I needed a water pump, so I decided to give DeLorean One a chance. I, too, spoke with Ed who informed me that simply changing out the water pump was ameteurish and that I needed to replace the entire coolant system, hoses, radiator, etc. I called Stephen Wynn at DMC-Houston and bought a rebuilt water pump kit and have had NO problems with my DMC-12's cooling system since. Like Darren, I commend people who can deal with Mr. Bernstein's attitude and prices, and, because of my experience, I recommend Rob Grady, Stephen Wynn, and Lincoln Nation when asked about parts. Brian VIN 1597 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 589 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=589 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:17:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Front Damaged DeLorean Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Justin, List members appreciate all kinds of questions even from non-DeLorean owners like yourself, but questions about the cost of repairs should be directed to one of the DeLorean repair facilities. Concerning your inquiry about the cost of a complete front end we would have to see the car or would need a detailed list of all the parts that need to be replaced, you could have this done by an insurance appraiser or body repair facility. There are several critical elements to consider. First and most important is frame damage. If the frame is damaged behind the frame extension "crush tubes" you will need to replace the entire frame ($6,000 to 9,000). If the left front fender needs replacement the cost will be $ 1,500 to 4,000. Some suspension components are not currently available. If there is extensive damage you would probably be better off looking for another DeLorean. There are many DeLorens available that would cost you less than the repair costs of an extensively damaged car. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: Justin9593@aol.com > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Front Damaged DeLorean > Date: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 3:55 PM > > I found a DeLorean for sale with the front of the Car all the way to the > front wheels smashed in. The Car runs great and the interior is great. Does > anyone have any Idea How much it would cost to fix the Front of the > DeLorean???? > Any opinion would be helpful > Thanks > Justin Kellogg > Vin# Not Yet > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > @Backup - The #1 Online Backup Service > Automatic, Safe, Reliable Backup and Restores. FREE for > 30 Days. INSTALL Now and have a chance to win a Palm Pilot V! > http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/218 > > > eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 590 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=590 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Jus4sho@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:44:37 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: consumer purchasing Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/19/99 10:08:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Iznodmad@aol.com writes: << Iznodmad@aol.com >> I'm glad to see it wasn't just me. As a relatively new owner of a Delorean, I've already had a run-in with Ed at Delorean One. I purchased a fuel system rebuild kit which included the fuel pump, fuel filter, hoses, fuel tank boot, boot cover and the pickup assembly. My car wasn't in running condition and had sat for many years basically destroying EVERYTHING in the tank. When I got the kit, the pickup assembly (plastic pickup w/screens) was missing. I thought "No Problem" I'd just give Delorean One a call and let them know they forgot it. When I called, I spoke to Ed he explained that that part was discontinued long ago and no longer included in the kit. (I understand that things do get discontinued, but the problem was his attitude.) I explained that the Delorean One Catalog was a little deceptive to show/list parts that are no longer included in the kit. (What I'm really thinking is Fraud.) He couldn't see why it bothered me not to receive all the parts I paid for. He even cited that little legal disclaimer that all catalogs carry that says "specifications/prices subject to change..." I tried a different approach. I said that it would at least be nice if I were made aware of this change at the time of purchase. I told him I still would have bought it! Nothing. Basically he thought I should be grateful for whatever he shipped and happy to pay his price. (I guess that eventually, when the rest of the items discontinued, he'll be shipping out a $500 banjo fitting as a "Fuel System Rebuild Kit". Needless to say, I haven't purchased anything from Delorean One since, but unlike Darren, I'd never heard anyone else complain about Delorean One. I thought it must have just been me, but now I know differently. I completely support Darren and urge everyone to support our FRIENDLY Delorean parts suppliers! One more thing. When I purchased the fuel system rebuild kit, I also purchased the shop manual set. The books were fine except for the electrical wiring diagram of the car which was illegible. (You can see the circuits, but the numbers and letters cannot be read.) Does anyone know where I can get a legible copy of just the wiring diagram? Thanks, Steve Stankiewicz ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 591 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=591 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Jdsjlv@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:06:33 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Ed Bernstein Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed has given me that attitude also. I told him over the phone and wrote him a letter explaining my dissatisfaction with him, his manners and his business practices. I swore to him that I would never consider buying another parts from him, or his company again. I think that he is a bitter old man, who is realizing that he has lost many valuable customers and a potentially profitable company because of his attitude and thickheaded remarks. I'm happy that DeLorean One and DMC Houston split -- kudos to Steve Wynn on such a bold move, as I'm sure he realized what a bum Ed Bernstein really is. Its to bad that he was on the E! channel, as a representative of the DeLorean owners around the world! Just my 2 cents Joshua Schwartz 001292 Trumbull, Ct. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 592 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=592 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Ghostridr2@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:33:10 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Which bulb? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My front parking light/turn signal bulb is burned out. I've looked through the brochure in the glove box, but can't find out which bulb to ask for at the auto parts store. All it says under specs is 5W/20W. It looks similar ro a 1077, but also a 1157 (and you can't take back electrical parts). I would appreciate any help. Send email to ghostridr2@aol.com Thanks, Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 593 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=593 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Stian Birkeland" Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:40:36 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Front Damaged DeLorean / THE VIN MYSTERY Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Justin, Just for the record - please post the VIN, interior color, and type of transmission of the wrecked DeLorean to the DML list. Many people (including myself) have the hobby of trying to re-create the lost factory production records. Or: Do these records exist somewhere??? Anyone??? Another question: Where has the production number "8583 DeLoreans" come from? An old DeLorean World quote this number but has no reference. From my own records, there were certainly around 10,000 DeLoreans built if not more. Maybe the 8583 production number was the exact production number when DeLorean Motor Cars Ltd. went into receivership??? I've tracked DeLoreans, in both South Africa and Kuwait, that were sold as new import cars in 82. The Kuwait DeLoreans (some of them are now in Sweden) have VINs over 11500 up to around 11800... Of course these DeLoreans could be former KAPAC DeLoreans that was never titled then exported in late 82... And - In Norway VIN 556 (5-speed manual & black interior) still exists! This is a pre-production car, since the guaranteed DeLoreans start at VIN 560. MAYBE this was a gift to one of the main suppliers (?). The Norwegian Company DYNO INDUSTRIES made the DeLorean fuel tank!!! Regards, Stian Birkeland Norwegian DeLorean Club NORWAY VIN # NOT YET! >From: Justin9593@aol.com >Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com >To: dmcnews@egroups.com >Subject: [DML] Front Damaged DeLorean >Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:55:14 EDT > >I found a DeLorean for sale with the front of the Car all the way to the >front wheels smashed in. The Car runs great and the interior is great. >Does >anyone have any Idea How much it would cost to fix the Front of the >DeLorean???? >Any opinion would be helpful >Thanks >Justin Kellogg >Vin# Not Yet > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >@Backup - The #1 Online Backup Service >Automatic, Safe, Reliable Backup and Restores. FREE for >30 Days. INSTALL Now and have a chance to win a Palm Pilot V! >http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/218 > > >eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews >http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > > > ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 594 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=594 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:06:00 -0400 From: Mike Substelny MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DML: Consumer Purchasing Thread Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Moderator Note: I am moderating the DML for the first time today. I have seen a number of responses to Darren Decker's story. I will allow these posts to continue only as long as they remain constructive, factual, and mature. Let's not have a meltdown. Also, please realize that it is not necessary to quote Darren's entire message in every post. That practice makes the archive difficult to read. - Mike Substelny ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 595 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=595 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "SweatyEddy" References: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:36:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: consumer purchasing Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't want to continue bashing Delorean One, I had similar experiences, enough said, so I went elsewhere. I just wanted to put a plug in for Deloren Motor Center in Garden Grove, CA. Don Steger is a factory trained mechanic (a damn good one) and their prices are competitive. They are working on my D right now which has a potpouri of cross referenced parts and amateur fixits and I have had no negative comments from Don about any of it. -SweatyEddy ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 596 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=596 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:49:51 -0400 From: Sean Jones MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <45e828b2.24744999@aol.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Ed Bernstein Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Ed was on E. Was he the guy who was driving around the DeLorean aroudn the end? It's sad to hear about people being so disatisfied with a parts company. - Shain Jdsjlv@aol.com wrote: > Ed has given me that attitude also. I told him over the phone and wrote him a > letter explaining my dissatisfaction with him, his manners and his business > practices. I swore to him that I would never consider buying another parts > from him, or his company again. I think that he is a bitter old man, who is > realizing that he has lost many valuable customers and a potentially > profitable company because of his attitude and thickheaded remarks. I'm happy > that DeLorean One and DMC Houston split -- kudos to Steve Wynn on such a bold > move, as I'm sure he realized what a bum Ed Bernstein really is. Its to bad > that he was on the E! channel, as a representative of the DeLorean owners > around the world! > > Just my 2 cents > > Joshua Schwartz > 001292 > Trumbull, Ct. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > @Backup - The #1 Online Backup Service > Automatic, Safe, Reliable Backup and Restores. FREE for > 30 Days. INSTALL Now and have a chance to win a Palm Pilot V! > http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/218 > > eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 597 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=597 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "robert parker" Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:58:29 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Top speed of Auto D's, and slowing down again Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I replaced my front pads with '74 Capri pads for $5.99, Lifetime Warranty from Whitlock's. They're IDENTICAL. They've given me very satis. service. BTW, I've had my DMC topped out to 119MPH in 5th, & 112 in 4th. Robert VIN 6924 >Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com >To: dmcnews@egroups.com >Subject: [DML] Re: Top speed of Auto D's, and slowing down again >Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:11:09 EDT > >My experience and research with D brakes was only somewhat satisfying. >Other >than buying rebuild parts from know D suppliers, there was a gentleman at >Girling who let on that the front brake assemblies were from those EARLY >Capris. He never sent the information he said he would. And I merely >rebuilt >what I had, given the parts sent from D suppliers. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >@Backup - The #1 Online Backup Service >Automatic, Safe, Reliable Backup and Restores. FREE for >30 Days. 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Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 598 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=598 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DeLorean31@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:30:05 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Front Damaged DeLorean / THE VIN MYSTERY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/19/99 2:53:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dmc_norway@hotmail.com writes: << And - In Norway VIN 556 (5-speed manual & black interior) still exists! This is a pre-production car, since the guaranteed DeLoreans start at VIN 560. MAYBE this was a gift to one of the main suppliers (?). The Norwegian Company DYNO INDUSTRIES made the DeLorean fuel tank!!! >> I met the owner of VIN 520 here in NJ at a car show about three weeks ago. It is the earliest VIN number I have seen on the road so far Gary Gore Activities Director DeLorean Mid Atlantic VIN 3360 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 599 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=599 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Paraversal@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:40:23 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: consumer purchasing Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Instead of commenting on the negative aspects of certain businesses and company leaders (i.e., Ed Bernstien and D1) I would simply like to say a few positive things about Rob Grady. Month after month I read about horror stories from unsatisfied customers of DeLorean One and I don't comment. Now I have to say something.... If you want the exact opposite of Ed and DeLorean One, such as friendly courteous service, fair prices, and good quality craftsmanship, just call Rob Grady. I have NEVER had a problem with Rob, nor have I ever heard anything negative about him or his company what so ever. I called there just yesterday to get some specs and pricing on a refurbished '81 that he's working on that I am considering purchasing from him when the car has completed its restoration. He spent a long time on the phone with me going over the details, answering every question I could think of. He understood what I was looking for in a DeLorean, and he was happy to take the time to work with me on options and 'zilla kits. He was friendly to deal with, and never once asked me a question such as "what is your VIN?" or "are you on the DML?" He always provides free seminars at DeLorean shows on how to keep your DeLorean in top shape, and how to care for it as if it were a child. Rob just seems like a really nice guy from everything Ive gathered, and he runs a clean business with friendly service and decent prices. So for any of you out there who are DeLorean One customers, either satisfied or more than likely Unsatisfied, try giving Rob a call next time at PJ Grady. He will treat you like a human being at least, something Ed still has trouble with. Hopefully Ed will get it right one day. Just my two cents, Justin PS- I don't see how the owner of a for-profit DeLorean sales and service company could be allowed to sit as the President of a major non-proffit organization of DeLorean owners......can anyone fill me in on this one? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 600 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=600 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:01:32 -0400 From: Richard Strecker MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19990518225313.22143.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Cleveland Show??? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------4A143E98B1B677A91BF198B1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------4A143E98B1B677A91BF198B1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" content-transfer-encoding: 7bit content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Scot, Yes there will be a show in Cleveland!! It is planned for June 2000. Please continue to watch this group for more information. I have the text that Ken wrote and a batch of pictures, the thing that I haven't had is time. I promise that I will have the information on the web by the end of July (1999). Hope to see you in Cleveland. Richard ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications --------------4A143E98B1B677A91BF198B1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" content-transfer-encoding: 7bit content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Scot,

Yes there will be a show in Cleveland!!  It is planned for June 2000.  Please continue to watch this group for more information.

I have the text that Ken wrote and a batch of pictures, the thing that I haven't had is time.  I promise  that I will have the information on the web by the end of July (1999).

Hope to see you in Cleveland.

Richard

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--------------4A143E98B1B677A91BF198B1-- ------------------------------ message 601 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=601 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: 19 May 99 13:35:11 PDT From: KIRK BRANDON Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: [ consumer purchasing] Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Paraversal@aol.com wrote:
PS- I don't see how the owner of a for-profit DeLorean sales and service= = company could be allowed to sit as the President of a major non-proffit = organization of DeLorean owners......can anyone fill me in on this one? Justin, = I agree with you about Rob, I have ordered about $5000.00 worth of parts = in the past three months and they are all working just fine. Don't forget= about DMC in Houston though, I have been very impressed with how they do= business. Warren gets the parts to me in no more than two days, and if a= nyone is considering getting the're rims refurbished, get them from DMC H= ouston. They are well worth the money. = As far as the comment above, maybe if you pay the $60 a year to join the = club you'll get to order some parts from DeLorean One. I called there for= a catalog about a month ago and still have not received anything. He ask= ed me my vin# and where I've been ordering parts from. I told him Rob and= Houston, maybe that's why I haven't received a catalog yet. I think Step= hen or Rob should buy his business and run it the way they run their own.= As many parts as Rob has been selling, he should be able to afford it. Kirk Vin#02378-10246

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------------------------------ message 602 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=602 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Gussob@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:47:32 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: consumer purchasing Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Edy, Do they have a website? If so, I'd like to check it out. Dave Loffler Seattle, WA ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 603 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=603 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Gussob@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:51:46 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] I'd like to thank..... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all. This is (probably the only 18 year older and youngest) Dave Loffler (Seattle, WA) writing to all in this WONDERFUL mailing "group". I'd like to thank everyone for being so courteous and helpful to everyone else (my self included of course) in this group. You are helping me every day, and I'll try to help all of you also. And, when I DO get my D, I'll let everyone know! "No Ed Bernstein experinces yet", Dave Loffler Seattle, WA VIN-I WANT A D! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 604 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=604 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: LovDMC12@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:29:39 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Large electrical diagrams Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A list member asked about large electrical diagrams. The DeLorean Owners Association used to sell these. I bought one from John Truscott. It's poster size, like the ones in a dealership, and it comes with a legend printed on legal paper. It's made life a lot easier for my auto electrician. I think they advertise these posters on the DOA's web site at: www.DeLorean-owners.org If this isn't right, let me know, and I'll see if I can hunt up John Truscott's phone number. Brian VIN 1597 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 605 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=605 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: LovDMC12@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:37:37 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: consumer purchasing Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to know which major DeLorean non-profit DeLorean organization Justin referred to in his posting. I know Ed sits on the board at DOA, but Linda Porter is the current president and a very nice lady. Brian VIN 1597 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 606 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=606 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: LovDMC12@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:39:00 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Ed Bernstein Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe it was Ed Bernstien driving the DeLorean at the end of the E! show. It wasn't the greatest shot, but it did look like him. Brian VIN 1597 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 607 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=607 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: LovDMC12@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:44:58 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Brit car show in Charleston Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just wanted to remind everyone about the British Car Show at Charlestowne Landing in Charleston, South Carolina on June 5. I got my entry brochure last week, and it looks pretty interesting. Since categories are determined by pre-registered vehicles, let's see if we can't get enough D's there to have our own category. Check out there web site at: www.palmettobug.com/bcc/britday.htm I look forward to seeing some of you there. Brian VIN 1597 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 608 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=608 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: NJP548@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:05:21 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: consumer purchasing Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey List, I just wanted to share my experience with DeLorean One, because I believe I know why they ask for the complete VIN number once they pick up the phone. This goes back to last January when I just bought my Delorean. I had purchased the drivers side window from PJ Grady, because mine was broken out and they were the only DeLorean specialist I knew at the time. Anyway, I think it was a week later that I found out about DeLorean One on the DML. I called them up to ask them a few questions and to order a free catalog (I too received that stupid photocopied catalog.) And I believe that they put the VIN#'s in a computer or something and put down comments about the owners, because for some reason I was talking to Ed about the window and I think I might have asked him a question about how to properly put the window in, and he asked me where I got the window from and I told him PJ Grady and he blew up on me. But later on a few months later I called him up again for a price on the part and after he asked me for the VIN# and I gave it to him, he said that his computers were down or something like that. So I really think that they put something in their computers about the owners or something, because I had my brother call them about 20 minutes later and he gave him a different VIN# and somehow his computers were working again. Just for that reason I only do business with PJ GRADY, in my eyes, they are the only DeLorean specialist that really cares about the car and its integrity. Sorry about it being so long. Thanks, Nick VIN# 1852 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 609 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=609 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 21:07:27 +0000 From: "Albert Siegel" Mime-version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Need help analyzing frame rust Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I live in Miami and know of a good body shop that can work on the cars frame. ---------- >From: t.mickel@worldnet.att.net >To: dmcnews@egroups.com >Subject: [DML] Need help analyzing frame rust >Date: Tue, May 18, 1999, 2:44 PM > > I need help analyzing frame rust and deciding on a course of action for my > 1981. I live in S. Florida and can pay expenses for someone who is > relatively close. Anyone with experience interested? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > @Backup - The #1 Online Backup Service > Automatic, Safe, Reliable Backup and Restores. FREE for > 30 Days. INSTALL Now and have a chance to win a Palm Pilot V! > http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/218 > > > eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 610 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=610 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: CBL302@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 23:06:00 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Front Damaged DeLorean Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/18/99 4:55:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Justin9593@aol.com writes: << I found a DeLorean for sale with the front of the Car all the way to the front wheels smashed in. The Car runs great and the interior is great. Does anyone have any Idea How much it would cost to fix the Front of the DeLorean???? Any opinion would be helpful >> Appox.the price of a rough delorean($6000.00-$8000.00)depending how much work you will do,and if the frame was bent and how bad.Any pics? Claude 000570 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 611 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=611 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Iznodmad@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 23:15:12 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Good experiences... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The reason for my first post was that I was absolutely dumbfounded after calling D1. I currently have purchased all my parts from PJ Grady. I give his entire outfit an A+ for their excellent service. They are knowledgeable, honest, and can give you cost effective options for repairing your car. They have saved me lots of money and only suggest parts that I need. However, the part that I am currently searching for is a clutch master cylinder and I am having a hard time finding one. I first called PJ Grady, then DMC Houston, no luck with either place. I then decided to try another facility to find the part, it just happened to be D1. Anytime I have ever called to a place of business, I have been treated with respect and most of the time a polite person on the other end of the phone who actually wants to assist me. I don't think I am asking too much there. If anyone can help me in finding this popular part, I would be grateful. I just want my D running again!! Regards, Darren Decker VIN 5000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 612 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=612 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Marc Barth" Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 21:41:40 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: consumer purchasing Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmm interesting. I've heard about problems from Delorean One but never anything like that. I live about 15 minutes from Delorean One. I am considering purchasing a D and had planned on taking it there for service. Is there another recommend Delorean service shop in so california? >From: Iznodmad@aol.com >Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com >To: dmcnews@egroups.com >Subject: [DML] consumer purchasing >Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:23:02 EDT > >Dear DML, > Okay, I have heard all the horror stories about Delorean One and I >never >actually understood what the hype was about until I called there myself >looking for a part. Ed answered the phone and I told him what I was >looking >for. However after a bit of talking he refused to sell me a part after I >told him I had shopped around elsewhere. He told me he "Did not consider >me >a customer of his and he would not sell his "other customers parts" to me >who >was looking for the "cheap" way out." The American Government has never >allowed monopolies on anything consumer related. I thought competition was >what makes our economy thrive?! I just wanted to share my unhappiest >experience since owning my Delorean with the rest of you. For those of you >that do business with Ed, I commend you on your ability to communicate with >one of the most narrow-minded persons on the face of this planet. From now >on I hope to have more pleasant stories to share with you all. On a final >note, please support your FRIENDLY Delorean parts suppliers. > >Regards, >Darren Decker > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >BrainPlay.com has 10,000 gift ideas for kids! And, for a >limited time, you'll receive FREE SHIPPING on every toy, >video game, software title, video, and more at BrainPlay.com! >http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/263 > > > >eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews >http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 613 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=613 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 23:17:21 -0600 From: "The Haney's" MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19990517052113.25036.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Top speed of Auto D's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I 1st bought my D in 1985 (8,000 Miles) I drove it from Dallas to my home in Denver. Although the speedometer wouldn't tell me exactly how fast I was going, I went for more than an hour through Texas at a tachometer estimated speed over 100 mph. I topped it out a couple of times just short of 120. Obviously being in an automatic transmission it takes its time getting up to speed, but even at high altitude after all these years my car will still get up & go. I just got my car back from the shop having the fuel system cleaned & adjusted(among other annual repairs) and can't wait to push the sound barrier again even at just short of 30K I am certain I can push it over 100 mph. My 2 cents is its the handling & looks that make the D so exciting and its (relative) speed is just a bonus. Being in Colorado I test my suspension a lot and enjoy going out of my way in search of winding roads. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 614 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=614 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Marc Barth" Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 23:11:49 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Front Damaged DeLorean / THE VIN MYSTERY Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Try this link: WWW.DMCNEWS.COM/CHRONOLOGY.HTML >From: "Stian Birkeland" >Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com >To: dmcnews@egroups.com >Subject: [DML] Re: Front Damaged DeLorean / THE VIN MYSTERY >Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:40:36 PDT > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hello Justin, > >Just for the record - please post the VIN, interior color, and type of >transmission of the wrecked DeLorean to the DML list. Many people >(including >myself) have the hobby of trying to re-create the lost factory production >records. Or: Do these records exist somewhere??? Anyone??? > >Another question: Where has the production number "8583 DeLoreans" come >from? > >An old DeLorean World quote this number but has no reference. From my own >records, there were certainly around 10,000 DeLoreans built if not more. >Maybe the 8583 production number was the exact production number when >DeLorean Motor Cars Ltd. went into receivership??? > >I've tracked DeLoreans, in both South Africa and Kuwait, that were sold as >new import cars in 82. The Kuwait DeLoreans (some of them are now in >Sweden) >have VINs over 11500 up to around 11800... Of course these DeLoreans could >be former KAPAC DeLoreans that was never titled then exported in late 82... > >And - In Norway VIN 556 (5-speed manual & black interior) still exists! >This >is a pre-production car, since the guaranteed DeLoreans start at VIN 560. >MAYBE this was a gift to one of the main suppliers (?). The Norwegian >Company DYNO INDUSTRIES made the DeLorean fuel tank!!! > >Regards, >Stian Birkeland >Norwegian DeLorean Club >NORWAY > >VIN # NOT YET! > >>From: Justin9593@aol.com >>Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com >>To: dmcnews@egroups.com >>Subject: [DML] Front Damaged DeLorean >>Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:55:14 EDT >> >>I found a DeLorean for sale with the front of the Car all the way to the >>front wheels smashed in. The Car runs great and the interior is great. >>Does >>anyone have any Idea How much it would cost to fix the Front of the >>DeLorean???? >>Any opinion would be helpful >>Thanks >>Justin Kellogg >>Vin# Not Yet >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>@Backup - The #1 Online Backup Service >>Automatic, Safe, Reliable Backup and Restores. FREE for >>30 Days. 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Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 615 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=615 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 02:06:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Which bulb? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gary, 1157 is the correct answer. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: Ghostridr2@aol.com > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Which bulb? > Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 1:33 PM > > My front parking light/turn signal bulb is burned out. I've looked through > the brochure in the glove box, but can't find out which bulb to ask for at > the auto parts store. All it says under specs is 5W/20W. It looks similar > ro a 1077, but also a 1157 (and you can't take back electrical parts). > I would appreciate any help. > Send email to ghostridr2@aol.com > Thanks, > Gary > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > @Backup - The #1 Online Backup Service > Automatic, Safe, Reliable Backup and Restores. FREE for > 30 Days. INSTALL Now and have a chance to win a Palm Pilot V! > http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/218 > > > eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 616 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=616 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 02:14:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Front Damaged DeLorean / THE VIN MYSTERY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stan, Here is the breakdown. 1981: 6539 1982: 1126 1983: 918 TOTAL 8583 DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: Stian Birkeland > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Re: Front Damaged DeLorean / THE VIN MYSTERY > Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 1:40 PM > > Hello Justin, > > Just for the record - please post the VIN, interior color, and type of > transmission of the wrecked DeLorean to the DML list. Many people (including > myself) have the hobby of trying to re-create the lost factory production > records. Or: Do these records exist somewhere??? Anyone??? > > Another question: Where has the production number "8583 DeLoreans" come > from? > > An old DeLorean World quote this number but has no reference. From my own > records, there were certainly around 10,000 DeLoreans built if not more. > Maybe the 8583 production number was the exact production number when > DeLorean Motor Cars Ltd. went into receivership??? > > I've tracked DeLoreans, in both South Africa and Kuwait, that were sold as > new import cars in 82. The Kuwait DeLoreans (some of them are now in Sweden) > have VINs over 11500 up to around 11800... Of course these DeLoreans could > be former KAPAC DeLoreans that was never titled then exported in late 82... > > And - In Norway VIN 556 (5-speed manual & black interior) still exists! This > is a pre-production car, since the guaranteed DeLoreans start at VIN 560. > MAYBE this was a gift to one of the main suppliers (?). The Norwegian > Company DYNO INDUSTRIES made the DeLorean fuel tank!!! > > Regards, > Stian Birkeland > Norwegian DeLorean Club > NORWAY > > VIN # NOT YET! > > >From: Justin9593@aol.com > >Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com > >To: dmcnews@egroups.com > >Subject: [DML] Front Damaged DeLorean > >Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:55:14 EDT > > > >I found a DeLorean for sale with the front of the Car all the way to the > >front wheels smashed in. The Car runs great and the interior is great. > >Does > >anyone have any Idea How much it would cost to fix the Front of the > >DeLorean???? > >Any opinion would be helpful > >Thanks > >Justin Kellogg > >Vin# Not Yet > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >@Backup - The #1 Online Backup Service > >Automatic, Safe, Reliable Backup and Restores. FREE for > >30 Days. INSTALL Now and have a chance to win a Palm Pilot V! > >http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/218 > > > > > >eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews > >http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Explore the Web for sites in Sports & Recreation from Looksmart! > http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/303 > > > eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 617 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=617 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: CBL302@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 03:25:03 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Delorean on PBS (Public Broadcasting System) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anybody know were I could find a copy of the first showing of the PBS series (1981)of Motorweek,on the first show they did a test on the the Delorean,also around 1985 PBS aired a documentary on Delorean and the factory,does anybody know were I could get a copy of that. Claude 000570 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 618 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=618 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 07:07:26 -0000 From: James Espey Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: THE VIN MYSTERY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Stan, >Here is the breakdown. > >1981: 6539 >1982: 1126 >1983: 918 >TOTAL 8583 > >DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / >Web Site: These numbers have been tossed around for years, but I question the validity of the 1982 and 1983 numbers. As near as I can determine, the 1126 number for 82's was arrived at through a DeLorean Service Bulletin which talked about a VIN range for 1982's, from 10000 through 11126. But there are several cars owned by DML'ers with VIN's above 11126, as high as 11800. In Ireland a few years back, I saw one of the RHD cars converted at the company's request that was VIN 12174, with a build month of May 1982. I recently came into possession of a computer print out of VINs, interior color, transmission type and engine block# for 1982 cars up to 11126. This will be incorporated into the DeLorean Production Chronology when it is updated next month. http://www.dmcnews.com/chronology.html James ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 619 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=619 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:18:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Good experiences... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Darren, We are not aware of a supply shortage of the clutch master cylinder. Let me know what you have been told. We can locate one for you if you are having trouble finding one. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: Iznodmad@aol.com > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Good experiences... > Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 11:15 PM > > The reason for my first post was that I was absolutely dumbfounded after > calling D1. I currently have purchased all my parts from PJ Grady. I give > his entire outfit an A+ for their excellent service. They are knowledgeable, > honest, and can give you cost effective options for repairing your car. They > have saved me lots of money and only suggest parts that I need. However, the > part that I am currently searching for is a clutch master cylinder and I am > having a hard time finding one. I first called PJ Grady, then DMC Houston, > no luck with either place. I then decided to try another facility to find > the part, it just happened to be D1. Anytime I have ever called to a place > of business, I have been treated with respect and most of the time a polite > person on the other end of the phone who actually wants to assist me. I > don't think I am asking too much there. If anyone can help me in finding > this popular part, I would be grateful. I just want my D running again!! > > Regards, > Darren Decker > VIN 5000 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > @Backup - The #1 Online Backup Service > Automatic, Safe, Reliable Backup and Restores. FREE for > 30 Days. INSTALL Now and have a chance to win a Palm Pilot V! > http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/218 > > > eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 620 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=620 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 08:55:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Oh Henry MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Neat photos of lowered DeLorean Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I stumbled across these neat pictures of a lowered DeLorean vs. a stock DeLorean at the DMC website. http://www.usadmc.com/catalog/lowering.html They have a lot of neat stuff listed. Henry _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------ message 621 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=621 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 12:37:46 -0400 From: Brian Henderlong Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Production Chronology Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James, will the Production Chronology include information about cars that have been converted into BTTF cars? If so, listmembers in Florida (like me!) and California might be able to get VIN and interior-color info on those cars. Brian Henderlong / Tampa, FL / DOA# 4977 / No VIN yet... mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- View the full archives, subscribe/unsubscribe, use the group calendar at http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews Manage your subscriptions at http://eGroups.com Free e-mail groups by eGroups.com. 
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