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450. KayoOng@aol.com [DML] Re: Painted DeLoreans...
451. KayoOng@aol.com [DML] Re: DML: Painting at Factory?
452. BRUCE BENSON [DML] Re: The Shimmy Shake
453. James McBuney [DML] John DeLorean Biography
454. DrthMaulV@aol.com [DML] Buying Delorean
455. JCox4001@aol.com [DML] Re: HEADLIGHTS/LICENSE PLATE
456. James Fay [DML] Re: Next Generation Delorean
457. BurkePhoto@aol.com [DML] Re: HEADLIGHTS/LICENSE PLATE
458. dswingle@enteract.com [DML] Posting Photos (was Front Plates)
459. Robert Carl Ensfield [DML] Re: Painted DeLoreans...
460. DMC Joe [DML] Re: door mechanism
461. DMC Joe [DML] Re: The Shimmy Shake
462. DMC Joe [DML] Re: A tipped DeLorean
463. DMC Joe [DML] Re: HEADLIGHTS/LICENSE PLATE
464. . [DML] No Subject
465. DMC Joe [DML] Re: Tool kit/jack
466. CBL302@aol.com [DML] Re: Painted DeLoreans...
467. CBL302@aol.com [DML] Re: Front end coil spring trouble
468. ROBLAMROCK@aol.com [DML] Re: hallo
469. yugoman [DML] fuel pump/ lambda
470. Mike Substelny [DML] 5 Year Antifreeze, anyone?
471. Mike Substelny [DML] DeLoreans for Sale in Cleveland
472. Mike Substelny [DML] Lambda Sensor/Light Relationship
473. Yocom, Shannon [DML] DMC on Miami Vice -?
474. dswingle@enteract.com [DML] Re: Front end coil spring trouble
475. yugoman [DML] Re: Lambda Sensor/Light Relationship
476. Mike Substelny [DML] The Scoop on 5 Year Antifreeze
477. NELLYMAC1@aol.com [DML] Re: The Shimmy Shake
478. LovDMC12@aol.com [DML] Re: Lambda Sensor/Light Relationship
479. Martin Gutkowski [DML] Re: A tipped DeLorean
480. Iznodmad@aol.com [DML] Re: HEADLIGHTS/LICENSE PLATE
481. James Espey [DML] ADMIN: Improving the DML
482. joseph murray [DML] Painted Delorean's
483. Sean Howley [DML] Re: The Shimmy Shake
484. CBL302@aol.com [DML] Re: Painted Delorean's
485. WtrResQ@aol.com [DML] delorean story on "E"
486. R. Haslewood [DML] Re: DMC in Miami Vice...
487. Marc A Levy [DML] Re: Painted Delorean's
488. Hark Yip [DML] Re: Delorean for sale
489. James Espey [DML] Painted cars thread dead
490. Sean Mullally [DML] Re: A tipped DeLorean
491. perline@mc.maricopa.edu [DML] Re: Delorean for sale
492. DMC Joe [DML] Re: Lambda Sensor/Light Relationship
493. DMC Joe [DML] Re: The Shimmy Shake
494. DMC Joe [DML] Re: HEADLIGHTS/LICENSE PLATE
495. DMC Joe [DML] Re: fuel pump/ lambda
496. raynet@home.net [DML] Yokohama Tires Discontinued???
497. Alex Krochmal [DML] Gullwing Webpage Update
498. Mr Copies [DML] Re: Yokohama Tires Discontinued???
499. dswingle@enteract.com [DML] Spring Compressor Tool
500. CancerMan [DML] Re: Cleveland.....
501. Mike Substelny [DML] Re: door mechanism
502. DMC Joe [DML] Painted Delorean's, Final Chapter
503. magriese@us.ibm.com [DML] Re: Yokohama Tires Discontinued???
504. Montgomery, Ken [DML] Reminder: N. Cal show on May 16
505. mlawrenc@ucla.edu [DML] DeLorean story on E!
506. LovDMC12@aol.com [DML] JZD on Scandal
507. dloreanboy@aol.com [DML] Southwest Delorean meeting
508. Brad Fudge [DML] Re: Buying Delorean
509. eGroups Calendar [DML] Reminder: Eastern Regional Run 9,
510. Stian Birkeland [DML] 81 HOOD -- WANTS TO BUY
511. Sean Jones [DML] Re: 81 HOOD -- WANTS TO BUY
512. NJP548@aol.com [DML] Re: 81 HOOD -- WANTS TO BUY
513. Tris Harvey-Rice [DML] Hoods. Whats that all about?
514. Brian Henderlong [DML] DeLorean TV commercial
515. James Espey [DML] ADMIN: Repeating messages in digests...
516. Case, Dean [DML] John Z in the news, May 3, 1999
517. Stian Birkeland [DML] Re: Hoods. Whats that all about?
518. rdh@hozt.com [DML] Re: Hoods. Whats that all about?
519. ROBLAMROCK@aol.com [DML] duPont Registry Announces Top 100 Cars of t
520. Steve [DML] 4WD DeLorean
521. James Senft [DML] Emergency Flasher
522. Stephen Jaeger [DML] Thermotime sensor
523. eurojet@sdcoe.k12.ca.us [DML] Miramar Car Show
524. DMC Joe [DML] Re: Emergency Flasher
525. Lance R Haslewood [DML] GEAR CHANGE WOES
526. dtaylor2@neo.rr.com [DML] 4X4 D
527. Ben Krasnow [DML] Re: Thermotime sensor
528. DMC Joe [DML] Painted Delorean's
529. Scott Mueller [DML] Re: Miramar Car Show
530. Sean Jones [DML] Re: Hoods. Whats that all about?
531. .. [DML] Delorean Emblem Theft
532. Sean Howley [DML] Pontiac/GTO Car Show
533. SAND131@aol.com [DML] Re: duPont Registry Announces Top 100 Cars
534. dloreanboy@aol.com [DML] Re: Reminder: N. Cal show on May 16
535. Stian Birkeland [DML] Other DeLorean TrueType Font
536. eGroups.com Poll Results [DML] Voting Results: DeLorean Clubs and Organiza
537. KKoncelik@aol.com [DML] Re: Miramar Car Show
538. NELLYMAC1@aol.com [DML] Re: Hoods. Whats that all about?
539. Caliendo76@aol.com [DML] Delorean Cadillac Dealership.
540. NELLYMAC1@aol.com [DML] Re: Hoods. Whats that all about?
541. SweatyEddy [DML] Re: Reminder: N. Cal show on May 16
542. Gussob@aol.com [DML] Re: GEAR CHANGE WOES
543. Chris Coplen [DML] Re: Delorean Emblem Theft
544. Christopher Mack [DML] Top speed of Auto D's
545. KayoOng@aol.com [DML] Re: Hoods. Whats that all about?
546. William T Wilson [DML] Re: Top speed of Auto D's, and slowing down
547. CBL302@aol.com [DML] Re: 4X4 D
548. Marc Barth [DML] Re: Top speed of Auto D's
549. Christopher Mack [DML] Miramar Car show experience
550. Dave Price [DML] Re: N. Cal show on May 16
551. LovDMC12@aol.com [DML] Re: Delorean Cadillac Dealership.
552. LovDMC12@aol.com [DML] Tapes of JZD on "Scandal"
553. Altomarine@aol.com [DML] Re: Top speed of Auto D's, and slowing down
554. Sean Jones [DML] Powered Auto Frame
555. Marc A Levy [DML] Re: Delorean Emblem Theft
556. ROBLAMROCK@aol.com [DML] Re: duPont Registry Top 100 Cars (63-100)
557. R. Starling [DML] North Carolina get together.
558. Josh Haldeman [DML] Re: Hoods. Whats that all about?
559. Martin Gutkowski [DML] Re: Hoods. Whats that all about?
560. V1426G@VM.TEMPLE.EDU [DML] contact address
561. CBL302@aol.com [DML] Re: Powered Auto Frame
562. Christopher Mack [DML] Re: Top speed of Auto D's
563. DeLorean31@aol.com [DML] Original British Car Day Show
564. Gussob@aol.com [DML] Re: contact address
565. Stian Birkeland [DML] New Gullwing from Volvo?
566. Bob Brandys [DML] Re: Brake rebuild.
567. Bob Brandys [DML] Re: contact address
568. toscano2@ix.netcom.com [DML] E! DeLorean show last night...
569. LovDMC12@aol.com [DML] Some questions brought up by E!
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:35:24 EDT
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Dan,
The state that I live in is New York State. Upon filling your registration
form and all the info on the registration card will reflect the same. They
list the weight, seating capacity, doors, color, type of fuel, manufacture,
year, model, owner/s, address, registration fees and more. If one info is
out of line, be ready for troubles if the officer is on the rag.
Kayo Ong
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:41:29 EDT
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I am "speculating" that many projects are done secretly too. On or off plant
grounds. Many manufactures has kept this practice. I am sure DMC was no
different in operation.
Kayo Ong
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From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@worldnet.att.net>
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> I've had my front wheels balanced twice now and I still feel a shimmy
> between 55 and 70 MPH, once I hit 88 it goes away:-)
I'm convinced that not all DeLorean wheels were perfectly round or mabe
it's the way tires bead to those rims but I've had similar problems all
through the years that I've owned mine. I finally found a great tire shop in
my area that balanced them on the car. While doing this they discovered run
out that they couldn't get rid of no matter where the tire was rotated on
the rims. They trued the tires with a machine that removes a slight bit of
tread where the high spots were and rebalanced them on the car. The result
was a smooth as glass ride. One of the problems is that, with the rear
engine configuration, the front end is pretty light on this car and it's
susceptible to more minor balance problems than most front engine cars.
Bruce Benson
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:44:34 -0400
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This Sunday May 16, E entertainment chanel is airing a special on John
DeLorean, I will be taping it in case anyone doesnt get that station.
Check out this link http://www.eonline.com/On/Holly/index.html
-Dan
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:43:24 EDT
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Hello everyone, I am very new to this whole thing, I am only 17 after all,
however I have wanted a Delorean since I was five years old, anyhoo now that
i can drive one, and almost afford one, I am wondering where a Delorean for
under 10,000 dollars might be found, obviously this i s a low price and I can
deal with one needing some work...any thoughts? let me know! Thanks, your
friend in time, ELB
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:13:41 EDT
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There is a factory front license plate holder. I have one in the assortment
from the dealership that I bought out.
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Hi,
I have an article from '96 stating that John was going to make a new car by
'98, and that didn't happen. So, I'd like to see a new car out on the road
in the next few years, but I don't think that's going to happen, mainly
because of money problems.
And that's my two cents.
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I received an unattached front license plate holder when I bought my Delorean
new in 1984.
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> Don,
> Hi, this is Kayo.
> As far as front plates, . . . . If you wonder how it looks, just
> ask and I will e-mail you a picture of my car with this setup since the DML
> site can't display photo.
> Kayo Ong
> #05508
> Lic. 9D NY
Yes, you can post photos to the DML. If you go in on the Wab page at egroups.com, after you log in you'll notice a button at the top that says (vault). It's real obvious from there. Just as a test I posted a jpeg of my disemboweled transmission. Works great! Just try and keep the file size reasonable since there is a limit. Also it looks like anyone can delete your files.
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 23:29:33 -0700
From: Robert Carl Ensfield <rcensfield@voyager.net>
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dmcnews@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello All,
> Before this thread gets killed let me say this. I just spoke with a GM of one of the largest DeLorean Dealerships in the south. He asked to remain nameless. He gave me this info on the painted DeLoreans. There were 4 DeLoreans that Mr. Ben Byrd had painted. They were used as company cars driven by DMC employees and eventually sold to dealers with NO warranty. My source got the Black one. The 4 DeLoreans were painted (1)Black (1)Red (1)Yellow and (1)White. The wheels were also painted to match
> To find out if your DeLorean was painted by the dealer look on the Bill of Sale and see if it has a "Painted Option". If any DeLorean came from the factory painted it will have a "Painted Option" on the window sticker. My source and I firmly believe that no DeLorean had/has this.
> Now, with the title saying "Black", my source told me he sold DeLoreans with the title saying "Black" in reference to the color of the interior. He did this with both black and grey interiors. A little misleading (to be sure) but not unethical.
> The only real options available on the DeLorean was the tranny. Auto or Stick. And the color of the interior.
> If anyone has questions further on this topic or any other please e-mail me privately and I'll find out what you need to know.
> Sorry this got soo long but I wanted to set the record straight.
> Thanx,
> The DMC Wannabe.
> No VIN yet!!!:(
> P.S. Be watching for a post I will soon be posting on How to **Properly** paint a DeLorean. My post will be coming from the people who wanted to paint DeLoreans for DMC.
>
> That's an interesting topic of discussion Kayo. All I can do is be judged by the community regarding my car. All I can add is that when I bought my car, the title said black. So, I'm assuming it was painted prior to delivery. I would like to find out someday. If anyone can help me do this, please let me know. Thanks. ---Dan
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Mike...
Not to beat the painted Delorean thread to death, but Delorean
Motor Company service bulletin # ST-02-2/82 says "While DeLorean Motor
Company has test painted three vehicles which are very attractive, we
have not yet completed adhesion or durability testing." The bulletin is
signed by William A.Charles, Director, Service/Parts.
No comments about what colors were used, although there are painting
recommendations from Sherwin-Williams, PPG/Ditzler and DuPont.
Bob Ensfield
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Mike,
Wow !, this is a first. I wish we could have helped you out sooner and
showed you how to release the door by removing the upper trim pad. There
are no crossovers for the door RH STRIKER MOUNTING BRACKET part # 105568.
There are four possible causes for this problem.
1. Door lock system out of alignment.
2. Malfunction of the door lock module.
3. Door latch system out of alignment.
4. Vehicle not equipped with door guide update.
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> From: cooney@pathway.net
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> Subject: [DML] door mechanism
> Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 2:04 PM
>
> Three days ago my drivers door would not open (I was inside). I drove
> home, climbed out the passenger door then attempted to open it from the
> outside. I had previously had a bit of difficulty with this door
> unlocking, but not sure if this is related. Anyway, I pulled up the door
> handle and with my other hand, pulled up the door itself.
>
> It opened but the mechanism apparently would not open correctly and
> pulled the front striker came out. The striker mounting bracket is now
> loose, and stripped, so I will have to find how to replace that. But my
> big question is: what caused it? A bad door mechanism? Locking problem?
> The rear one seems to work fine. And how can I tell? I want to replace
> the correct part.
>
> Also, if I have to change the door latch, are any of these parts crossed
> referenced to other makes?
>
> By the way, still looking for a new, old style AC accumulator.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
> #2467
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Dave,
The DeLorean suspension is a high performance racing type suspension which
will not tolerate any alignment or balancing inconstancies. The average Pep
Boys/Goodyear dealers are not equipped to provide this high degree of
service. Alignment shops that advertise performance or racing alignment
service are usually equipped to do "on the car spin balancing"
The advantage of this system is that the dynamics of every item in the
suspension system becomes part of the balancing procedure insuring much
better results. So call around and insist on an "on the car spin balance".
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> From: David Sontos <dsontos@sybercom.net>
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> Subject: [DML] The Shimmy Shake
> Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 8:26 PM
>
> I've had my front wheels balanced twice now and I still feel a shimmy
> between 55 and 70 MPH, once I hit 88 it goes away:-)
>
> I've tried a different set of front wheels I borrowed from a fellow "D"
> owner and get the same result. I am assuming this is not normal for this
> car. There does not appear to be any excessive play in the steering or
> the wheel bearings. The shocks seem to be in working order without any
> leakage. I have noticed different road conditions have an effect on the
> amount of shaking in the steering wheel. I just drove from Virginia up
> to visit family in New Jersey this past weekend and the car ran
> perfectly except for the shaking in the front end.
>
> Any tips would be appreciated...
>
> Dave
> VIN 02573
>
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Like any other car, if it has been flipped over it is usually considered
"totaled", therefore its value would only be for parts. If you go back to
see it check out the VIN number so that we can add it to our deceased list.
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> Subject: [DML] A tipped DeLorean
> Date: Monday, May 10, 1999 3:27 PM
>
> hello,
> I recently found a Delorean that was tipped over in grand Rapids
> Michigan. I saw it at a insurance agency but it doesn't look to good.
The
> hood,both doors, front window, drivers side window etc are wrecked. I am
> going to go take a closer look at and see if they would possibly sell it.
> What do you think a good price would be? They might not even sell it. I
> will try to take a few pictures of it and put them on my site. My friend
saw
> the interior and said that it had a lot of dirt in it from the rollover I
> guess. I know that a DeLorean was tipped over at Michigan State recently
but
> I do not think that this is the same "D".
>
> any replys would be greatly appreciated
>
> Dave,
> http://delorean.cjb.net
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Yes, the Sylvania halogens were factory installed.
All DeLoreans were shipped with a license plate bracket for mounting a
front plate. This bracket did require three holes to be drilled into the
front bumper to
accommodate fasteners for the plate bracket. There is a stainless steel
after market bracket that does not require any drilling. It is available
from some DeLorean parts suppliers. DeLorean One stocks this item as
D100110 in stainless. PJ Grady also has one in black.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> Subject: [DML] HEADLIGHTS/LICENSE PLATE
> Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 6:12 PM
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> Can anyone tell me if the original factory headlights for the DeLorean
> are indeed Sylvania Halogen?
>
> Can anyone also tell me if the factory produced a front license plate
> holder for the DeLorean or expected owners to drill holes in the front
> bumper or create their own plate holder?
>
> Regards, The Silver Fox
> ChicagoLand
> Vin #'s 01149 and 10788
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DeLorean listed in Cleveland Plain Dealer 5/9/99: 11K, Auto, Great =
Condition. Have not seen it. They are asking 18K call 330-833-3428. =
Have not seen it, don't know anything about it. FYI
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DeLoreans were equipped with two different style jacks, one had a crank
handle part # 110037 the other hat a large ratchet handle, part # 108607
Both of these items maybe available from one of the DeLorean parts
suppliers. We don't know of any other jack that will fit in the jack
compartment.
Low silhouette "screw" jacks will do the job. As far as a ratchet bumper
jack; that is out of the question.
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> Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 11:00 PM
>
> I finally got around to taking my jack out of it's compartment for the
first time and realized that I only have the jack part, not the crank that
makes it go up and down. What exactly came with the car in the "tool kit"?
Where can I find a handle? Is there an aftermarket jack kit available that
would work and fit into the space behind the grill? I'm used to American
style jacks that click up and down. Any suggestions would be appreciated!
Fil Vigil.
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In a message dated 5/10/99 7:56:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, KayoOng@aol.com
writes:
<<
I am not sure if this statement is true. I maybe wrong, but as I remember
there were a few cars painted by the factory. One of those cars was issued
to a member of Mr. JZD family? I maybe wrong, anyone out there with more
info on this car or the other factory painted cars? >>
Technically speaking,Delorean was working on painted Deloreans,but not
"painted Deloreans" as such he was working on translucent cars,ie so that the
stainless steel finish showed right through the paint,sorta the same way as
stained wood,you see a color,but you also could see the natural wood grain
finish,from what I understand the pigments in the "paint"could not hold up to
the elements and failed miserbly,and as far as I know none of those cars were
ever released to the general public.
Claude
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In a message dated 5/10/99 3:24:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kenm@csus.edu
writes:
<< Then we removed the lower arm from the car, released the
spring, put the new spring on the arm and reversed the procedure. We
could find no way to compress the springs from the outside. The
compressor tools the shop had would not fit into such a small space with
so many obstructions. >>
It took me over 16 hours per spring to reinstall (front)and that was cut
springs
and without being able to put the rubber pad under the spring,I would rate a
front spring change only to those people that have extensive knowledge of
Deloreans and the right equipment (which was the only way I was able to get
the new springs back on)
to do any front spring work on a delorean.Trust me I know from experience.
Claude
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>Living in N.Ireland, a lot of people i encounter on >the Net, believe that
there are quiet a few DeLorean`s >driving around here, but sadly, that ain`t
the case.
Simon,
Sorry to disagree. There are currently some 38 DeLoreans in the country!
That Californian one is just the latest import belonging to Tom McElhone.
You can see several cars at Cullbackey street festival on Saturday 29th May
(starting at 6.30p.m.)
Best wishes,
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Belfast
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My car wouldn't start for a couple days, today I finally got to look under
the dash (now I know where the inertia switch is!), but that wasn't it. Got
the book back out and checked the fuse for fuel pump/lambda, it was toasted!
One side had actually melted a bit. When started the "lambda" light never
comes on, could there be a problem here that i need to look for?
Also my fan blower still doesn't work (help, it's hot weather!), and I need
a window switch. Anybody have one for sale? Thanks!
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I just searched the backissues and was surprised to find that no one has
asked about using the new, high tech 5 year antifreezes in DeLoreans.
Does anyone have an opinion on this?
A mechanic friend has been very consciencious in reminding me that the
DeLorean was designed to have its antifreeze changed every year . . .
possibly two years if the car is lightly driven. He cautions me that
even in storage the aluminum protective ability of antifreeze disappears
in 2-3 years and engine/radiator damage comes swiftly as the coolant's
acidity changes.
This might partially explain the alarming number of DeLorean radiator
failures I have seen discussed here.
The new "long life" antifreezes could be a wonderful help to us.
Costing only about $1 per gallon more than old fashioned antifreeze,
this stuff sounds like a terriffic bargain. As I understand it
Prestone's 5 year antifreeze is now standard on new GM cars.
After carefully reading the label, I found no mention that this stuff is
guaranteed for aluminum engines. They promise "five years of protection
for aluminum radiators." Almost every car has an aluminum radiator, and
I can get 5 years out of ordinary antifreeze in my iron-engine Chevy.
What about my aluminum engine DeLorean?
I called Prestone's consumer information line (800)-862-7737 but they
only gave me exactly the same information that the label had.
I am inclined to believe that the new antifreeze will give my DeLorean
five years of worry-free protection, and I am ready to run out and buy
some immediately. If any DMLer knows differently please post a caution
for all of us!
- Mike Substelny
(changing antifreeze religiously, still using original
radiator after 18 years and 60,000+ miles)
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David Levey said:
> DeLorean listed in Cleveland Plain Dealer 5/9/99:
> 11K, Auto, Great Condition.
Actually, anyone can check the Plain Dealer Classifieds online for free
at:
http://classifieds.cleveland.com/auto/
I just dropped by and found two DeLoreans and a Bricklin for sale in the
area. There is another DeLorean in the area (plus a better description
of the same Bricklin) at TraderOnline.com:
http://www.traderonline.com/coll/search/index.shtml
Anyone can check these sources for free any time. If any DMLer is ever
interested in cars around Cleveland I might be coaxed into going to look
at them.
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Yugoman's DeLorean refused to start:
> Got the book back out and checked the fuse
> for fuel pump/lambda, it was toasted!
> One side had actually melted a bit. When
> started the "lambda" light never comes on,
> could there be a problem here that i need to
> look for?
The Lambda light comes on every 30,000 miles as a reminder to change
your sensor, period. The light is "dumb" in that it does not actually
know the condition of the Lambda sensor or any other part of the Lambda
system.
What fixes have you tried for your blower problem?
- Mike Substelny
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I remember talk here on the DML of a DMC used by a drug dealer on Miami Vice
but only can find one reference to Miami Vice in the back issues. Does
anyone know which episoed the DMC was in? The title of the episode, what it
is about, the episode number, air date any thing like this will help.
Michael Pack, you study film - have you any idea?
Thanks to all in advance.
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First the caveat - if you don't know what you're doing and/or are not comfortable with the danger, leave this to a suspension shop. That being stated:
I have replaced my front springs as well, and did not see this to be quite as much trouble as described. The secret, as usual, is the use of proper tools. The absolute best tool is a Snap-on spring compressor, very hard to find and expensive. This is a one-piece affair that grabs the spring from the outside, bothe sides at once.
I used a McPherson Strut (2-piece, 3-finger) compressor, installed upside down from the normal use. Whatever you do, do NOT try and use a 3-piece compressor. I believe that this is illustrated on Knut's document, but I had a lot of trouble with one of the compression screws slipping off.
I'll try posting a picture of how this goes together tomorrow - I'll have to get the photo to scan.
Dave<14f98488.24691eb-@aol.com> wrote:
> << Then we removed the lower arm from the car, released the
> spring, put the new spring on the arm and reversed the procedure. We
> could find no way to compress the springs from the outside. The
> compressor tools the shop had would not fit into such a small space with
> so many obstructions. >>
> It took me over 16 hours per spring to reinstall (front)and that was cut
> springs
> and without being able to put the rubber pad under the spring,I would rate a
> front spring change only to those people that have extensive knowledge of
> Deloreans and the right equipment (which was the only way I was able to get
> the new springs back on)
> to do any front spring work on a delorean.Trust me I know from experience.
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I thought maybe the light should come on briefly when started, like a temp
or charge light.
I tried fuse for the blower circuit. A few times the fan would be working,
then quit after a few miles. Lately it hasn't come on at all. Also sometimes
the charge guage is dead, sometimes it will read (if that has anything to do
with the fan circuit?). When it went to the show, we had to jump it, the
guage never moved, but it started at the show, so I assume it is charging.
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I have the answer to my own question
A technical representative (chemist?) from Prestone just called me back
and we had a nice chat about their Extended Life Antifreeze. She
apologized for the confising label on the jug.
More importantly, she assured me that it is safe to leave the new orange
colored antifreeze in my DeLorean for five years! It will protect the
aluminum much longer than the old green antifreeze.
They have some information on the Internet, including instructions on
switching from the green stuff to the orange stuff:
http://www.prestone.com/cooling/index.html
The page says, in part:
"Prestone® Extended Life 5/150
antifreeze/coolant provides
today's drivers with outstanding
freeze-up and boilover protection
for up to five years or 150,000
miles."
". . . is a silicate- and phosphate-free
formula, which provides extended
performance and protection against
rust and corrosion to all cooling system
metals, including the lightweight
aluminum found in many newer
radiators."
"If you decide to replace your
existing antifreeze/coolant with
Prestone Extended Life 5/150
antifreeze/coolant, make sure you
completely drain and flush the
cooling system first in order to
gain the full benefits of the
longer-lasting formula."
My DeLorean is due for a coolant change this week. I plan to do a
complete flush and put in the long-lasting orange stuff, and leave it
there until 2004.
- Mike Substelny
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I was going to mention the tyres but figured this was something you would
have been told before.
I had a real uneaven and bumby ride untill I bought a new set of tyres all
round ,the dealer explained that tyres of that age (regardless of wear) have
more likley lost the oil from the rubber making them very hard in some places
. I now have a very quiet ride but am no longer on the original rubber
(shame) .The tyre depot could have just fleeced me for new tyres though so if
anyone else has been told this I would be interested to hear about it
Neil in Scotland
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I had a similar problem with my D. It showed a good charge but the battery
kept going down. Turns out I needed a new alternator. Once I got it
changed, it's been smooth sailing ever since. The A/C uses a lot of
electrical power in our cars. It could be draining your battery.
Brian
VIN 1597
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Hi Joe,
Although the insurance company offered the owner $14,000 to write the car off,
she refused and is paying the difference.
Dave, contact me privately and I will put you in touch with the owner - I have
BCc'd her on this e-mail.
Cheerio all,
Martin.
DMC Joe wrote:
> Like any other car, if it has been flipped over it is usually considered
> "totaled", therefore its value would only be for parts. If you go back to
> see it check out the VIN number so that we can add it to our deceased list.
>
> DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> > From: Delorean17@aol.com
> > To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> > Subject: [DML] A tipped DeLorean
> > Date: Monday, May 10, 1999 3:27 PM
> >
> > hello,
> > I recently found a Delorean that was tipped over in grand Rapids
> > Michigan. I saw it at a insurance agency but it doesn't look to good.
> The
> > hood,both doors, front window, drivers side window etc are wrecked. I am
>
> > going to go take a closer look at and see if they would possibly sell it.
>
> > What do you think a good price would be? They might not even sell it. I
>
> > will try to take a few pictures of it and put them on my site. My friend
> saw
> > the interior and said that it had a lot of dirt in it from the rollover I
>
> > guess. I know that a DeLorean was tipped over at Michigan State recently
> but
> > I do not think that this is the same "D".
> >
> > any replys would be greatly appreciated
> >
> > Dave,
> > http://delorean.cjb.net
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Dear DML,
I too have a factory original license plate holder, I think. Are they
supposted to be black? I found it underneath the passenger seat one day
about a month ago. Had no idea what it was until another DML'er recognized
what it was. The reason I believe it to be factory original is that the car
has always been in NC and in this state we do not require front plates.
Darren Decker
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I received this message about problems with mailing lists from the
TidBits Mailing List, and while it is quite lengthy, I would hope that
everyone would take a few minutes and read it. If everyone (or even MOST
everyone) would follow these suggestions, the list would be much more
readable and useful.
James
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Here then are the main behaviors that I would encourage for all
mailing list participants. If you're as bothered by the problems
in mailing lists as I am, feel free to refer others to this
article for advice.
**Write Carefully** -- I realize that I risk sounding like a
pedant here, but in cases like this, I don't care. Writing skills
in the general Internet populace stink, which means you can make
yourself look even more intelligent and thoughtful than you are by
writing well. Good writing isn't difficult, and requires only
grammatical sentences and proper spelling. You don't need to be a
professional writer or be able to make words flow trippingly off
the tongue.
You should also follow a few basic rules when writing email:
* Don't use all capital letters for more than a word.
* Insert a blank line between paragraphs.
* Surround URLs with angle brackets to avoid problems at line
breaks.
* Don't use text styles (like bold or italic) or text colors in
mailing list messages, since many people won't see them and may
even see HTML tags instead.
**Quote Sparingly** -- One of my peeves with mailing lists is that
people seldom delete unnecessary quoted text in their replies,
with the worst being people who reply to a message in a digest and
quote the entire digest. Quoting sparingly does require manual
work, since most email programs automatically quote the original
message in replies. But failing to edit the original wastes
everyone's time and bandwidth.
In some email programs, you can select some text in the original
message, press a keyboard shortcut, and have only that text appear
quoted in the reply. (Eudora for the Macintosh does this with its
Command-Shift-R shortcut.) Other email programs assume that
replying with some original text selected means you want to quote
only that text.
Especially problematic are email programs that quote an original
message by appending it to the bottom of the reply with no quote
marks in front of each line. That prevents inline replies, since
there's no easy way to differentiate original and new text, so
users of those programs tend to leave the entire original hanging
off the end of the reply. That's fine in private messages, but in
mail destined for a list, it's just sloppy. Unfortunately, the
only solution to this problem is to switch to a different email
program
**Avoid Junk Messages** -- Another complaint about people's
behavior on mailing lists revolves around "junk" messages. I'm not
talking about spam, since spammers aren't constructive members of
a mailing list. Instead, junk messages fall into the following
categories:
* Unsubscribe messages mistakenly sent by subscribers who didn't
read (or locate) the instructions for leaving the list. Every list
goes to lengths to simplify the process of signing off, and yet a
large number of people still send unsubscribe messages to the list
itself. Read and save the welcome message you receive when you
subscribe to a list, then refer to it when you want to
unsubscribe.
* Me-too posts sent by well-meaning list members replying only to
convey that they agree with a message or had a similar experience.
A Web-based poll is a better way to take votes on a topic.
* Welcome messages that appear when someone new joins the list. No
one on a mailing list needs to read "Glad to have you on the
list!" from everyone; send such messages to the new member in
private mail.
* Congratulation messages that appear after a member of the list
has mentioned some milestone or personal triumph. Again, send
these in private email.
The moral of the story is simple: Avoid sending junk messages to a
list. They're easy to identify as you type - just ask yourself if
the message would be of interest to the majority of the mailing
list. If not, that doesn't mean your message is worthless: the
original sender might appreciate being welcomed or congratulated
via private email.
**Write Descriptive Subjects** -- When you receive messages from a
mailing list, the first thing you see is the subject line. Which
of these subject lines would you rather see on a mailing list
devoted to, say, tropical fish?
> wondering
> Recommendations for fish that can live with cichlids
Unless your telepathic powers are better than mine, the first
subject line tells you nothing. So, the first rule of subject
lines is to make them descriptive.
Another problem affects primarily digest readers. They see an
interesting message and want to reply, but when they do so, their
email program uses the subject line of the digest (Tropical Fish
Digest #251) rather than the subject of the message. That leads to
messages being sent to the list with useless subject lines, since
the title of the digest is rarely descriptive. There's no good
solution to this problem, although two mediocre workarounds exist.
* Copy the subject line from the message to which you're replying
and paste it into your reply's subject line, prefixing it with
"Re:". This is effort well spent.
* Have the digest sent as a MIME digest and use an email program
like Eudora Pro that can separate the digest into individual
messages in a mailbox. The problem goes away then, but, for some
people, so does the point of receiving the digest version of a
list.
Sometimes you want to reply to a message but change the topic of
discussion. When you do that, you should change the subject line;
if you don't, people following the thread will be confused when
your message doesn't match its subject. Some people (and some
programs) indicate when they've changed a subject line by
appending "(was <the original subject>)" to the new subject.
That's acceptable but results in long and unwieldy subject lines
that work badly in list archives.
On the other side are people who change the subject lines on every
message they send. That's equally problematic, since it prevents
list members from reading (or sorting) messages that are related
by a shared subject line.
If you create descriptive subjects, maintain the correct subjects
if you're a digest reader, and change subjects only when
appropriate, you'll be well on your way to being admired as a
paragon of list etiquette.
**Use Short Signatures** -- My final gripe about mailing list
postings is that many people have long signatures at the end of
their messages. Email signatures are useful, but mailing list
signatures should be kept to a minimum. This is especially true
for lists that have digests because the signatures can take up a
significant portion of the digest. For instance, messages with
long signatures sent to the moderated Info-Mac Digest are rejected
with a note asking the person to resend with a shorter signature.
Many email programs let you switch between multiple signatures,
but you have to remember to do so for each message. There's a
trick you can use in Eudora Pro (but not Eudora Light) to switch
signatures automatically when you're replying to messages that
come from mailing lists. Follow these steps:
1) In the Signatures window create a shortened signature for use
with mailing lists called "Short signature." Your name,
affiliation, email address, and URL are all that is essential.
2) In the Personalities settings panel, create a personality
called "Mailing list signature." Fill in the Real Name and Return
Address fields, and select the "Send mail whenever sends are done"
checkbox. All the other fields can be blank, and the checkboxes
related to checking mail should be deselected.
3) Switch to the Personality Extras settings panel, leave the
Stationery pop-up menu set to None, and choose Short signature
from the "Signature when not using stationery" pop-up menu. Click
OK to save your personality settings.
4) Open the Filters window. In filters that move messages from
mailing lists into specific mailboxes, add a Make Personality
action, and from the Personality pop-up menu, choose "Mailing list
signature."
You've created a signature for use with mailing lists, connected
it with a specific personality that differs from your dominant
personality only in the default signature setting, then created a
filter that automatically assigns that personality to incoming
messages from mailing lists. Now, whenever you reply to a message
from a mailing list, Eudora Pro knows to use your mailing list
personality and thus your mailing list signature. You'll still
have to choose your mailing list signature manually when sending a
new message to a list, but all replies will use it automatically.
**Ridin' that High Horse** -- I freely admit that there's nothing
new in this article (well, except maybe the Eudora tip above).
These recommendations have been floating around the Internet as
long as there has been an Internet. The sad fact is, though, that
mailing list manners haven't improved with time.
So why can I complain? Two reasons. First, I think it's important
that this topic, old as it is, remains in the public eye. Second,
I do the work every day to create a mailing list that tries to
conform to all the recommendations above. In TidBITS Talk, I do
the following to every message:
<http://www.tidbits.com/search/talk.html>
* Basic editing and spell checking, which is significantly eased
by Eudora Pro 4.2's inline spell checker. I also add blank lines
between paragraphs, add angle brackets to URLs, and remove styled
text.
* Eliminate unnecessary original text in replies. This task is
quite easy, since wholesale deletions take little time.
* Reject junk messages. Most mailing lists aren't moderated, but
eliminating junk messages, or even multiple identical answers to
the same question, is a major advantage of moderation.
* Normalize subject lines. I try to keep similar messages in
threads and break new thoughts out into new threads. This work
also improves the quality and coherence of our archive database.
* Signature pruning. Since I'm already editing messages, it's
little extra work to trim signatures to their essentials.
I do all this work because I think it makes for a far better list
experience, and highly positive feedback from the members of the
TidBITS Talk list confirms this. Another advantage is that this
work tends to keep the list volume down, since I'm less likely to
post messages that require a lot of work to clean up.
(NOTE FROM JAMES ESPEY: When the DML was on the old server, I used to be
able to do a lot fo this editing that is mentioned above, with eGroups I
lost that functionality. That's why the messages and digests are longer
and full of more "crap".)
I'm not trying to be smug - I love it when I can post submissions
to TidBITS Talk without a lick of work. I also don't expect most
other people who run mailing lists to expend this level of effort
(though I wouldn't complain if some did). Instead, my goal here is
to educate people who participate in mailing lists, since only by
improving our list manners will mailing lists continue to become
increasingly pleasant and useful.
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Did you make it this far? If you did, send me an email with the text:
"I read the whole thing and I promise to try and follow it's suggestions."
along with your mailing address and I will dig up something DeLorean
related out of my desk to send to you.
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As most people will already know I worked in the D M C plant in Belfast
even before it opened, I was there to the day it closed.I saw the first
Delorean to come of the Assembly line and I also saw the last Delorean
come of the Assembly line.
Now let me tell you there NEVER was a Delorean made inside or outside
the Plant that was PAINTED never! and it was ME that painted the White
letters on the Fender,
and there were only Ten of those.
I was incharge of any Painting done at the Plant,that consisted of Walls
Windows & Doors.
The D M C.plant never experimented with Painting and tinting parts of
any body parts
as Mike Substelny said,we were to busy assembling Cars.
Also, they never ever had an idea of coating the Delorean car with
Liqueur.
Any Painting that went on in or outside the Plant I new about it.
Joe Murray the 65th worker to be employed @ the Plant
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As most people will already know I worked in the D M C plant in Belfast
even before it opened, I was there to the day it closed.I saw the first
Delorean to come of the Assembly line and I also saw the last Delorean
come of the Assembly line.
<BR>Now let me tell you there <FONT SIZE=+1>NEVER</FONT> was a Delorean
made inside or outside the Plant that was PAINTED never! and it was ME
that painted the White letters on the Fender,
<BR>and there were only Ten of those.
<BR>I was incharge of any Painting done at the Plant,that consisted of
Walls Windows & Doors.
<BR>The D M C.plant never experimented with Painting and tinting parts
of any body parts
<BR>as Mike Substelny said,we were to busy assembling Cars.
<BR>Also, they never ever had an idea of coating the Delorean car with
Liqueur.
<BR>Any Painting that went on in or outside the Plant I new about it.
<BR>Joe Murray the 65th worker to be employed @ the Plant
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I have also recently purchased new tires for my DeLorean (they only have
about 300 miles on them). Unfortunately, I still have the vibration
problem. I know that it must be due to an imbalance because the vibration
is extremely repetitive and its frequency is almost perfect at a given
speed. I am very interested in trying one of the "on car" balancing
methods.
Sean Howley
VIN#2345
> I was going to mention the tyres but figured this was something you would
> have been told before.
> I had a real uneaven and bumby ride untill I bought a new set of tyres all
> round ,the dealer explained that tyres of that age (regardless of wear)
have
> more likley lost the oil from the rubber making them very hard in some
places
> . I now have a very quiet ride but am no longer on the original rubber
> (shame) .The tyre depot could have just fleeced me for new tyres though so
if
> anyone else has been told this I would be interested to hear about it
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In a message dated 5/11/99 9:36:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
murrayempire@net.ntl.com writes:
<< Now let me tell you there NEVER was a Delorean made inside or outside
the Plant that was PAINTED never! >>
If you look through the Book Stainless Steel Illusion,you will see that there
were actually a few painted cars,(18)and there is actually a picture on page
113,the fiberglassed test vehicles qualify as factory
cars,that were painted,and those are probably the only true factory
authorized cars,but the catch is that Lotus built them.(the fiberglass
panels)and installed them,but regardless they still were painted (or gel-coat
finish?)Where are those 18 orange cars now?anybody?
Claude
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i just saw an advertizment on the E channel, stating that the Delorean story
will be televised on "E" (thats 36 on SF area TCI cable) will be on this
Sunday the 16th at 8 pm eastern....!! set your VCRs.
james
"stainles"
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From: "R. Haslewood" <delorean@zip.com.au>
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>
>I remember talk here on the DML of a DMC used by a drug dealer on Miami
Vice but only can find one reference to Miami Vice in the back issues. Does
anyone know which episoed the DMC was in? The title of the episode, what it
is about, the episode number, air date any thing like this will help.
>
>Michael Pack, you study film - have you any idea?
>
>Thanks to all in advance.
>Shannon Yocom
>VIN# not yet!
>
As a big Miami Vice fan, I can tell you that DeLoreans were used in numerous
episodes of Vice (According to my friends on the Miami Vice mailing list),
however I have only seen 4th season episodes (the damn network only shows
the same eps over and over - I wish they'd get some new ones already!) and
there is only one ep in that season which has a DeLorean.
The episode is "Indian Wars", and like I said, it's from the 4th (1987/88)
season of Miami Vice. It's about some young rebell indians from a
reservation intercepting drug deals and making off with all the drugs. The
scene with the DeLorean goes something like this:
The scene starts with a shot from behind the DeLorean, looking down its
right side, then the door opens and a drug dealer's henchman steps out (with
an Uzi in hand - never leave home without one). Then, Lt. Castillo (Edward
James Olmos) rocks up in his Lamborghini, which is part of his 'cover' as a
dealer. Castillo ignores the henchman and walks over to the DeLorean as the
other drug dealer opens the left-side door and gets out. The dealer and
Castillo have a conversation, all the while the DeLorean can be seen in the
background. Although, that same dealer end up face-down in a fish tank later
in the episode, so the DeLorean doesn't make any other appearances.
The scene lasts for about a minute, and from what I can tell the DeLorean
appears to be an '81 model, with the lines on the hood.
I'm not sure what episode number it is, or when it will air in the US, but
if you check out http://www.vice-files.com you might be able to find out.
R. Haslewood,
Sydney Australia
www.zip.com.au/~delorean/
VIN 10599
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How do you explain the fender in the warehouse that had color samples
painted on it? (I wish I took a picture... Maybe Steve Wynn can post
one?)
I was told this was a fender that was used to test, and display the
paint possibilities on the stainless. I think someone at the warehouse
said it came from DuPont... I saw no verification of this, I am NOT an
authority on this.
In a company of any substantial size, I find it impossible for one
person to know about everything that was going on. DMC subcontracted
the turbo design to Legend, maybe they also subcontracted the paint
research to someone?
joseph murray wrote:
>
> The D M C.plant never experimented with Painting and tinting parts of
> any body parts
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Irvin Perline wrote:
>
> Must sell my 1981 Delorean, speed. Only 11 K miles. Excellent condition.
> $19.9K .
>
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Unless someone comes up with some more substantial information on the
painted cars thread, it's been killed.
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The DeLorean from the Michigan State University riots WAS sent to Grand
Rapids supposably to be repaired, according to the campus paper. That is
probably the same one. The damage sounds similar.
-Sean
> From: Delorean17@aol.com
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] A tipped DeLorean
> Date: Monday, May 10, 1999 3:27 PM
>
> hello,
> I recently found a Delorean that was tipped over in grand Rapids
> Michigan. I saw it at a insurance agency but it doesn't look to good.
The
> hood,both doors, front window, drivers side window etc are wrecked. I am
> going to go take a closer look at and see if they would possibly sell it.
> What do you think a good price would be? They might not even sell it. I
> will try to take a few pictures of it and put them on my site. My friend
saw
> the interior and said that it had a lot of dirt in it from the rollover I
> guess. I know that a DeLorean was tipped over at Michigan State recently
but
> I do not think that this is the same "D".
>
> any replys would be greatly appreciated
>
> Dave,
> http://delorean.cjb.net
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> Irvin Perline wrote:
> >
> > Must sell my 1981 Delorean, speed. Only 11 K miles. Excellent condition.
> > $19.9K .
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Why are most stock sites so slow and annoying to use? StockMaster.com
> Where are you????
>
I am on the website. Click on the reply button located in the upper right hand corner of my listing...then we should be able to talk. Sorry, I have not gotten around to filing the "personal information" requested by egroups.
Please let me hear from you. Regards, Irvin Perline
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If you had a situation where the voltage gauge was below 11 volts and you
had to jump start the car you either have a bad battery or a problem in the
charge circuit. If the blower comes on and than shuts off you may have a
defective blower circuit breaker.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: yugoman <mdrig@email.msn.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: Lambda Sensor/Light Relationship
> Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 1:24 PM
>
> I thought maybe the light should come on briefly when started, like a
temp
> or charge light.
> I tried fuse for the blower circuit. A few times the fan would be
working,
> then quit after a few miles. Lately it hasn't come on at all. Also
sometimes
> the charge guage is dead, sometimes it will read (if that has anything to
do
> with the fan circuit?). When it went to the show, we had to jump it, the
> guage never moved, but it started at the show, so I assume it is
charging.
>
>
>
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Neil,
Your tyre depot is correct.
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> From: NELLYMAC1@aol.com
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> Subject: [DML] Re: The Shimmy Shake
> Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 3:44 PM
>
> I was going to mention the tyres but figured this was something you would
> have been told before.
> I had a real uneaven and bumby ride untill I bought a new set of tyres
all
> round ,the dealer explained that tyres of that age (regardless of wear)
have
> more likley lost the oil from the rubber making them very hard in some
places
> . I now have a very quiet ride but am no longer on the original rubber
> (shame) .The tyre depot could have just fleeced me for new tyres though
so if
> anyone else has been told this I would be interested to hear about it
>
>
> Neil in Scotland
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Darren,
All Delorean's were shipped from the factory with the black license plate
holder.
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> From: Iznodmad@aol.com
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: HEADLIGHTS/LICENSE PLATE
> Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 9:05 PM
>
> Dear DML,
> I too have a factory original license plate holder, I think. Are
they
> supposted to be black? I found it underneath the passenger seat one day
> about a month ago. Had no idea what it was until another DML'er
recognized
> what it was. The reason I believe it to be factory original is that the
car
> has always been in NC and in this state we do not require front plates.
>
> Darren Decker
> VIN 005000
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yugoman,
The fuel pump fuse melt down is common to all DeLoreans, if your fuse has
melted DO NOT REPLACE IT WITH ANOTHER. The replacement fuse will also melt
in time. Go to your local Radio Shack, Auto Zone, or any auto parts store
and purchase a "heavy duty" in-line fuse holder. Pull out your fuse block
and cut the wires going to fuse # 7 and connect the in-line fuse holder in
its place. Be sure that your splice connections are secure and tight.
The Lambda light does not have a test function, as mentioned by another
list member the lamp illuminates when the Lambda counter reaches 30,000
miles.
Before replacing the blower motor be sure that it is receiving power. With
a 12V test light check the red feed wire for voltage, go through all speed
settings. If there is no power at all speeds than your problem is related
to switching, circuit breaker or relays. If there is voltage be sure the
motor is properly
grounded, if it is, than the motor needs to be replaced. If you need
further assistance email us directly.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: yugoman <mdrig@email.msn.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] fuel pump/ lambda
> Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 11:19 AM
>
> My car wouldn't start for a couple days, today I finally got to look
under
> the dash (now I know where the inertia switch is!), but that wasn't it.
Got
> the book back out and checked the fuse for fuel pump/lambda, it was
toasted!
> One side had actually melted a bit. When started the "lambda" light never
> comes on, could there be a problem here that i need to look for?
> Also my fan blower still doesn't work (help, it's hot weather!), and I
need
> a window switch. Anybody have one for sale? Thanks!
>
>
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Maybe I missed a memo on this one, maybe the guy at townfare tire didn't know what he was talking about, or maybe I'm just a fool.... But I was told today that the Intermediate AVS tires have been discontinued and that the only thing Yokohama now makes for our cars is a H rated tire.... Is this true or have I been steered wrong. If correct I'm thinking it may be time to buy up some spare stock...
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Hey Ray
I just got a quote on The New Generation
Dunlop G.T. Qualifiers they are T rated
and readily available at a great price.
Mine were quoted out at $551.26 installed
including taxes.
195160 R14
235160 R15
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>Maybe I missed a memo on this one, maybe the guy at townfare tire didn't
know what he was talking about, or maybe I'm just a fool.... But I was told
today that the Intermediate AVS tires have been discontinued and that the
only thing Yokohama now makes for our cars is a H rated tire.... Is this
true or have I been steered wrong. If correct I'm thinking it may be time
to buy up some spare stock...
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>Raymond McKay
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Based on the prior postings about removing front springs, I have uploaded a couple of photos of the front spring with a compressor attached. "spring3.jpg" is the sping on the car, still relaxed, with the McPherson Strut compressor attached. "spring4.jpg" is the compressed spring after being removed from the car.
To see the photos log into "my space" at egroups.com, go to the main DMCnews page, and click the "vault" button across the top of the page.
This tool is a common rental item, normally used for compressing McPherson Struts on modern-day cars.
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Im sure the Cleveland show will be just as big of a success as the Cincinnati
show was. I have a question about last years show. During the show I was told
that videos would be made (of the competition and the convoy to the warehouse). I
remember the camera men doing some crazy things (hanging out the back of moving
cars etc). I would like a copy of these videos. If anyone knows where i could
obtain a video, please message me. I know a lot of other people who would be
interested also.
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Mike's driver's door problem sounds simlar to the one I had:
> It opened but the mechanism apparently would not
> open correctly and pulled the front striker came out.
> The striker mounting bracket is now loose, and stripped,
> so I will have to find how to replace that. But my big
> question is: what caused it? A bad door mechanism?
> Locking problem?
You need to check a few things. Does that door have door guides? Now
that the door is open, see if the forward latch operates the same as the
rear latch. With the latch in its closed position, hold a screwdriver
where the striker pin would be and try to open it. Then pull the handle
(with the door unlocked) and try again. Obviously the latch should
release now.
If the latch appears to be working then it probably is not closing
properly. It is possible, especially on cars without door guides, for
the latch to jam against the striker pin when the door closes.
Sometimes it opens fine, other times you are a prisoner.
If the latch is not working but also not damaged then you probably have
some loose linkages inside the door. You need to get inside the door
and check the lock linkage and the latch linkage. They can be adjusted.
If the latch is damaged then you probably need to replace the latch,
like I just did.
> Also, if I have to change the door latch, are any
> of these parts crossed referenced to other makes?
This would be nice to know decades from now, when I have to search the
junkyards for a DeLorean latch, but for now new latches are still
inexpensive from the normal DeLorean parts sources. I got mine last
week from DMC Houston, and I think it was $60 or less. Check their
parts/price list PDF at:
www.usadmc.com
FYI the linkage attaches to the latch via one of two holes in a nylon
bell shaped pivot. On my old latch the linkage was attached to the
closer hole, but when I installed the new latch I found my door worked
much better if I used the farther hole.
- Mike Substleny
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To All,
Sherman Williams, PPG Industries, and DuPont were contacted by DMC to
submit information on procedures for painting stainless steel panels, check
out DMC Service Bulletin ST-02-2/82 for all the details.
Page 101 of Stainless Steel Illusion has details on experiments with
painting the stainless. Paragraph two reads: "A far more intriguing way JZD
considered for adding color to his sports car was with new body panels. Not
stainless steel or metal, but soft urethane plastic bolted in place of the
metal panels. The plastic would not only add color but would be highly
resistant to small dings and bumps to the body surface. We may not of heard
the last of this bright idea."
That last line strongly relates to the recent stories talking of John
building a plastic bodied sports car.
As James has mentioned, and I agree, we have run this subject into the
ground. If you need additional information pertaining to this subject you
can email us directly. Please, facts only, no speculations. Thanks
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Raymond wrote
>Maybe I missed a memo on this one, maybe the guy at townfare tire didn't know
what he was talking about, or maybe I'm just a fool.... But I was told today
that the Intermediate AVS tires have been discontinued and that the only thing
Yokohama now makes for our cars is a H rated tire.... Is this true or have I
been steered wrong. If correct I'm thinking it may be time to buy up some spare
stock...
<
Yokohama has discontinued tires for our cars several times
over the years. Typically with markets this small, tire companies
run batches of odd-sized tires periodically. Once the batch run
is done, tire shops can no longer order directly from the company.
Any inventory held by distributors is the only alternative.
After a period of time, the company may decide to run another
batch and the process starts all over.
I would not stockpile tires, especially high speed rated tires.
The compounds used to make high performance tires
outgasses at a steady rate from when the tire is made.
The longer the time, the worse the tire will perform. Autocross
tires have a life of one year whether you put them on a rim
and run them or not.
Mike Griese
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This is a reminder that the Northern California DeLorean Motor Club will
be participating in the British Motorcar Show on May 16th.
We have enough cars coming to form our own class, but more cars would be
even better! If you're in the area come on out and meet up with us and
spend the day 'talking DeLorean'. This is also one of the largest
British car shows on the west coast, drawing many cars from the
Sacramento Valley and Bay Areas.
Details of the show:
The 11th Annual All British Motorcar Show and Swap Meet
Presented by the United British Sports Car Club, Sacramento
Sunday May 16, 1999 9AM to 4PM Dixon Fairgrounds, Dixon, California, USA
(Direction: Interstate 80 to Hwy 113 South, 2.3 miles to First Street)
*Swap meet space: Private Parties--$10 Business--$25
*Peoples Choice Car Show: $10 pre-entry fee (May 7), $15 day of show
*Free admission to the public
Website: http://www.2xtreme.net/ubscc/events.htm
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I was watching Howard Stern tonight
(the official TV show of college students)
and saw an advertisement for a John DeLorean
story on the E! network! It's going to air this
Sunday night (May 16th) at 8:00 E/P. It sounds
like it's going to be everything from his days at
GM all the way through the drug trial.
Set your VCRs!
peace
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Did anyone happen to see the episode of Scandal last night (May 12) on
Discovery People? It was about John DeLorean's cocaine trial. It was the
first time I'd ever seen it. As with most news items related to the
DeLorean, it was biased against both the car and the man. Hillel Levin,
author of "Grand Delusions," was one of the main people they interviewed. It
had a commercial for the DMC and featured plenty of trial footage and footage
of the factory in operation. I managed to get it taped. It's well worth the
time to watch. If anyone's interested in having a copy made, email me
privately.
Brian
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Trying to re-organize DeLorean Owners in Texas,Oklahoma,N.M., La. Ar. If you know anyone that has one please contact dloreanboy@aol.com and we will contact them. For a possible meeting in Dallas.
Also our car is being used in several video commercial in the Dallas Area.
We are looking for a NICE Delorean to be used By STEAK&ALE restraunants for a filming and National Convention in Orlando Fl. on June 2nd,4th,6th Please contact me if your interested dloreanboy@aol.com
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Don't look for the cheapest D you can buy. I purchased a 1981 D for $12,000
then spent another $11,000 to have the car gone through mechanically. D's
are great cars but not for someone on a budget. Do yourself a favor and
spend the money on school. After you have a good education you will be
making enough money to buy and play with a D.
Brad
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Subject: [DML] Buying Delorean
>Hello everyone, I am very new to this whole thing, I am only 17 after all,
>however I have wanted a Delorean since I was five years old, anyhoo now
that
>i can drive one, and almost afford one, I am wondering where a Delorean for
>under 10,000 dollars might be found, obviously this i s a low price and I
can
>deal with one needing some work...any thoughts? let me know! Thanks, your
>friend in time, ELB
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Hello all,
I'm helping a friend out here...
He's looking for a 81 HOOD WITHOUT THE GAS FLAP, BUT WITH LINES ON EACH SIDE
OF THE HOOD. Must be in excellent condition. Name your price...
Regards
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY
VIN # NOT YET
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Hello,
Soem guy had a DeLorean for sale on ebay, he had a 81 gas flap hood also that
he was gonna throw in if the price went so high. I don't believe it did. I
think it had one blemish (due to the problem why the hoods were stopped being
made that way). I can check to see if he has it for sale. I thought it was
intresting that he veen found one.
- Shain
Stian Birkeland wrote:
> Hello all,
> I'm helping a friend out here...
>
> He's looking for a 81 HOOD WITHOUT THE GAS FLAP, BUT WITH LINES ON EACH SIDE
> OF THE HOOD. Must be in excellent condition. Name your price...
>
> Regards
> Stian Birkeland
> NORWAY
> VIN # NOT YET
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Hey I believe that guy was me. But the hood has the gas flap and the
indentation lines. If you are interested give me a price.
Thanks,
Nick
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I keep seeing messages describing hoods (or bonnets, if you're in Blighty
like me), suggesting there were several different types of hood used on the
DeLorean - could someone fill me in please, as this is obviously a dangerous
gap in my knowledge, preventing me from becoming the DeLorean Oracle!
Cheers,
Tris.
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The DeLorean TV commercial can also be downloaded from the German DeLorean
owners site. Go to:
http://www.delorean.de/titel.htm
and click on "Photos & More" for the commercial.
Enjoy!
Brian Henderlong / Tampa, FL / DOA# 4977 / No VIN yet...
mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com
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Hey, I finally found it............From the San Diego Union Tribune
Uri Berliner
STAFF WRITER
03-May-1999 Monday
John Z. DeLorean
John Z. DeLorean won't give up.
At 74, he still harbors dreams of gull-wing doors and a sleek, supercharged
sports car that rocks the staid automotive industry. He's sure he will
build it, maybe not this year, but sometime soon, two or three years down
the road.
"Cars are in my blood," said DeLorean, the quixotic figure known as well
for his courtroom battles as the stainless steel cult car he manufactured a
generation ago. "They're really the only thing I've ever worked at."
Once, in another life, DeLorean spent a fair amount of time on a 48-acre
citrus and avocado ranch he owned in San Diego County's Pauma Valley. But
he transferred the $2.5 million property to the attorney who represented
him against cocaine trafficking and fraud charges related to his failed
DeLorean Motor Car Co. He was acquitted in the mid-1980s in both cases, but
prefers not to dwell on his legal odyssey.
"I don't look back at all," he said.
DeLorean now splits his time between a farm in Bedminster, N.J., and New
York City, still the visionary engineer obsessed with aerodynamics,
lightweight materials and speed.
What's on the drawing board now? A 1,450-pound sports car made of
structural plastic that can blast from zero to 60 miles per hour in 3.2
seconds, starting at about $18,000. Equipped, of course, with DeLorean's
signature gull-wing doors.
With his elegant manner, silver-maned good looks and flair for the dramatic
gesture -- the DeLorean Motor Car was built in violence-scarred Belfast,
Northern Ireland, the former General Motors executive has always made sure
to stand out in the crowd.
"The key to the car business is generating some excitement," DeLorean said.
"There are very few cars anyone's dying to own. It seems like they all have
this round, amorphous, droopy look."
DeLorean turns elliptical when the subject turns to his partners or sources
of financing. When asked the name of his new venture, he responds: "If you
put the money up, I'll name it after you."
Meanwhile, the original DeLorean Motor Car remains a symbol of iconoclastic
quirkiness, having been featured in the "Back to the Future" movies as the
launch vehicle for time travel.
Aficionados trade in parts and DeLorean lore over the Internet, and
DeLorean himself receives letters and packages from DMC owners regularly.
"I just got a glovebox door that a woman wants me to sign for her husband,"
he said in a recent phone interview. Though several thousand DMCs remain on
the road, the man behind the machine doesn't drive one.
He prefers to look ahead, part engineer, part sci-fi fantasist, refusing to
go quietly in his twilight.
Another DeLorean plan: an elevated rail system that would run about 100
feet above freeway right-of-ways in traffic-snarled areas like Southern
California. The rail line would feature lightweight cars made of aerospace
composites and could zip passengers along at more than 300 miles per hour.
Travel time from San Diego to Los Angeles? A tad under 30 minutes.
"You'd be sitting on the freeway in traffic and look up and say, 'Shoot,
there is a better way,'" said DeLorean, imagining the biggest breakthrough
in mass transit since the subway. "Right now, we're looking for a place to
do a test demonstration."
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Hello Tris,
There where 3 types of hoods:
1) The hood with a gas flap and lines on each side of the hood.
2) The hood with no gas flap but still with lines on each side of the hood.
These two were on the 1981 DeLoreans. Hood 2 was introduced with VIN 3200
according to Parts Bulletin PS-01-9/81.
3) The 1982 hood was totally flat, but with a "DeLorean" logo.
Why these changes?
Apparantly the first hood was very practical since you didn't need to raise
the hood to gain access to the fuel tank. This was changed apparently
because of an overall better look of the car without the gas flap.
Hood 2 was discontinued after VIN 7199 (81). The reason for this was that
the stamping process cracked a lot of hoods due to the lines on each side.
The 82 hood also got a DeLorean logo. (Not "DMC" but "DeLorean")
Best wishes
Mr. Stian Birkeland
The Norwegian DeLorean Owners Club
>From: "Tris Harvey-Rice" <laddie@globalnet.co.uk>
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>Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 19:35:25 +0100
>
>I keep seeing messages describing hoods (or bonnets, if you're in Blighty
>like me), suggesting there were several different types of hood used on the
>DeLorean - could someone fill me in please, as this is obviously a
>dangerous
>gap in my knowledge, preventing me from becoming the DeLorean Oracle!
>
>Cheers,
>Tris.
>------------------
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>NO Vin * sniff *
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A complete pictorial description of the different hoods may be found at:
<http://www.delorean-owners.org/legend/diff.html>
Ray
<003501be9e38$8944d7a0$b37bfea-@tris> wrote:
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> I keep seeing messages describing hoods (or bonnets, if you're in Blighty
> like me), suggesting there were several different types of hood used on the
> DeLorean - could someone fill me in please, as this is obviously a dangerous
> gap in my knowledge, preventing me from becoming the DeLorean Oracle!
>
> Cheers,
> Tris.
> ------------------
> "Live every day as if it were your last. One day you'll be right."
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In a message dated 5/14/99 2:40:48 PM GMT Daylight Time, AOL News writes:
> duPont Registry Announces Top 100 Cars of the Century
>
> ST. PETERSBURG, Fla., May 14 /PRNewswire/ -- duPont Registry, "A Buyer's
> Gallery of Fine Automobiles," announces the Top 100 Cars of the Century.
> The
> magazine surveyed its readers around the world as well as visitors to its
> web
> site on the most popular cars of the 20th century. duPont Registry was
> interested in using the opinions of car enthusiasts instead using a panel
of
> automobile experts to create the list. The magazine conducted the survey
> between January and May. Participants wrote in their choices for the 10
> best
> cars of the century. The top 100 cars were determined by compiling these
> votes. The number one automobile of the 20th century, according to the
> duPont
> Registry survey, is the Lamborghini Diablo. A complete list is attached.
>
> The top five choices are all exotic automobiles. The 1954-1957 Mercedes
> Gullwing is the first collector car to appear on the list. The first
> American
> car is the 1996- present Dodge Viper GTS ranked at number three. Ferrari
> leads all manufacturers with a total of 15 models in the top 100, followed
> by
> Porsche with a total of nine models. Newsstands around the world will
carry
> this fall's special issue of duPont Registry, which commemorates these 100
> cars.
>
> duPont Publishing Inc. of St. Petersburg, Florida launched duPont
> Registry, "A Buyer's Gallery of Fine Automobiles," in 1985. The magazine
> focuses on the buying and selling of collectible, luxury and exotic
> automobiles. "A Buyer's Gallery of Fine Homes" and "A Buyer's Gallery of
> Fine
> Boats" are two additional magazines under the duPont Registry name, which
> market luxury homes and boats respectively.
>
> The Top 100 Cars of the Century
>
>
> presented by: duPont REGISTRY, "A Buyers Gallery of Fine Automobiles"
>
> Rank Year Automobile
>
>
> 1 1990-present Lamborghini Diablo
>
>
> 2 1995-1998 McLaren F1
>
>
> 3 1996-present Dodge Viper GTS Coupe
>
>
> 4 1995 Ferrari F50
>
>
> 5 1995-1999 Ferrari F355
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>
> 6 1954-1957 Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Gullwing
>
>
> 7 1963-1967 Chevrolet Corvette
>
>
> 8 1965-1967 Shelby/AC 427 Cobra
>
>
> 9 1996-1997 Porsche 993 Twin Turbo
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>
> 10 1985-1996 Ferrari Testarossa
>
>
> 11 1998-present Ferrari 550 Maranello
>
>
> 12 1997-present Chevrolet Corvette
>
>
> 13 1987 Ferrari F40
>
>
> 14 1992-present Dodge Viper R/T 10 Roadster
>
>
> 15 1974-1989 Lamborghini Countach
>
>
> 16 1992-present AM General Hummer
>
>
> 17 1953-1962 Chevrolet Corvette
>
>
> 18 1999 Porsche 996 Carrera
>
>
> 19 1996-1999 Vector M12
>
>
> 20 1964-1968 Ford Mustang
>
>
> 21 1990-present Acura NSX
>
>
> 22 1997-present Plymouth Prowler
>
>
> 23 1967-1969 Chevrolet Camaro
>
>
> 24 1962-1964 Ferrari 250 GTO
>
>
> 25 1999 Shelby Series 1
>
>
> 26 1976-present Lotus Esprit
>
>
> 27 1990-present Mercedes-Benz SL
>
>
> 28 1997-present Porsche Boxster
>
>
> 29 1961-1974 Jaguar E-Type (XKE)
>
>
> 30 1998 Mercedes-Benz CLK GTR
>
>
> 31 1975-1994 Porsche 930 Turbo
>
>
> 32 1968-1973 Ferrari 365 GTB/4 Daytona, Daytona Spyder
>
>
> 33 1996-present Bentley Azure
>
>
> 34 1995-1998 Porsche 993 Carrera
>
>
> 35 1987 Porsche 959
>
>
> 36 1908-1927 Ford Model T
>
>
> 37 1990-1996 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1
>
>
> 38 1968-1982 Chevrolet Corvette
>
>
> 39 1992 Jaguar XJ220
>
>
> 40 1955-1957 Ford Thunderbird
>
>
> 41 1996-present Aston-Martin DB7
>
>
> 42 1997-present Bentley Continental T
>
>
> 43 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air
>
>
> 44 1986-present BMW M3
>
>
> 45 1992-1999 Mercedes-Benz S Class
>
>
> 46 1997 Porsche 911 GT1
>
>
> 47 1989-1994 Ferrari 348 series
>
>
> 48 1929-1937 Duesenburg Model J
>
>
> 49 1970-1974 Plymouth Barracuda/Hemi 'Cuda
>
>
> 50 1994-1998 Saleen Mustang
>
>
> 51 1991-1995 Bugatti EB110
>
>
> 52 1938-1980 Volkswagen Beetle
>
>
> 53 1998-present Volkswagen Beetle
>
>
> 54 1960-1963 Ferrari 250 GT Spyder California
>
>
> 55 1995-present Ferrari 456 GT/GTA
>
>
> 56 1997-present Jaguar XK8
>
>
> 57 1990-1997 Nissan 300 ZX
>
>
> 58 1999 Rolls-Royce Silver Seraph
>
>
> 59 1993-1998 Toyota Supra
>
>
> 60 1998-present Mercedes-Benz SLK
>
>
> 61 1963-1989 Porsche 911 Carrera
>
>
> 62 1984-1987 Ferrari 288 GTO
>
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> 63 1981-1982 Delorean DMC-12
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I was just thinking to myself today, "What ever happend to that four wheel
drive DeLorean that was for sale in TX a while back?"
Anyone on the list purchased it? Anyone heard anything from the seller?
Just thought I would try to add something to the list. It would be nice to
know what happened to that D.
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While rebuilding my AC mode switch, I am also replacing the burned out panel
light bulbs. What is the correct operation of the light bulb in the emergency
flasher switch...illuminate only when headlight switch on or flash when flashers
operational? Mine does not flash when depressed ala current cars...but does not
illuminate at all unless parking/headllights on. Is this correct?
Thanks, Jim
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After having my car for a year I just discovered that the
wires to the thermotime sensor (the one in the thermostat
housing)are not connected. A wire is connected to one
side of the lead and ran to ground. Wouldn't this
cause the cold start valve to stay open all the time? I am
assuming this was done because the thermotime sensor
is bad. How can I check the sensor?
I have another question on the control pressure regulator.
Mine does not have vacuum connections on it. Is this
the wrong regulator or a later version?
Thanks for helping me return my car to it original condition!
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For what it's worth, I survived my very first car show and won 3rd place in my division. Which division I don't know unless it was anything that wasn't a Camaro or Mustang. I was up against a Pantera though. It was a lot of fun and I was the only DeLorean there. Yes, everyone ignored the DO NOT TOUCH signs and one guy had the nerve to open up my engine compartment on his own. An ex D owner he claimed. Today I was nice, but next time...! The car had steady admirers all day and I arrived home with a hundred fingerprints and a nice sunburn. The joys of ownership! Fil Vigil
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Jim,
The hazard switch lamp is part of the panel light circuit and switches on
with the parking/headlamp switch.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: James Senft <jpsenft@erols.com>
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> Subject: [DML] Emergency Flasher
> Date: Saturday, May 15, 1999 3:25 PM
>
> While rebuilding my AC mode switch, I am also replacing the burned out
panel
> light bulbs. What is the correct operation of the light bulb in the
emergency
> flasher switch...illuminate only when headlight switch on or flash when
flashers
> operational? Mine does not flash when depressed ala current cars...but
does not
> illuminate at all unless parking/headllights on. Is this correct?
>
> Thanks, Jim
> Vin 5832
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While out driving this week, I could not get reverse gear (5 Speed). No
problems, the car wasn't parked in a tight spot and after a little
manouvering, I managed to drive off in first gear. After a short distance
I noticed that the gear selector was getting aprogressively sloppy and
eventually I could only select 3rd and 4th gears. Luckily we (son Troy was
in the passenger seat) weren't far from home and managed to nurture the
DeLorean home. Upon investigation I found that the two steel pins which
held the gear selector assembly to the mounting plate (under the console)
had worked loose and the lever was actually 'floating' . It was attached
only to the selector rod.
The fact that the pins had worked loose caused some concern. What
concerned me most was the possibility of them working loose again and to
determine some way of preventing a reoccurrence. When I reinstalled the
pins, I could not get a tight fit which meant they would eventually work
their way out again. To fix the problem, I drilled a hole at each side of
the mounting bracket above where the pins slide through. I then inserted
the pins and drilled into each pin to about 1/16 of an inch. The holes in
the bracket were then threaded to accommodate a small bolt. I reassembled
the the gear linkage assembly, inserted the pins and locked them in place
using the locking bolts with a small dab of medium Locktite.
Question .... has anyone else experienced a similar problem, and if so, how
was it overcome?
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I saw that pic a while back and I just wanted to say WHAT ARE SOME PEOPLE THINKING! Why would you butch a D like that!?!?
Just my thoughts.
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Grounding out the blue-black wire going to the Thermo-timer will cause
the cold start valve to shoot gas every time the starter motor is
running. Once the engine starts, it will not spray any more gas. This
is fine if the motor is cold. If it is hot, the engine might flood,
making it hard to start. If you are not having starting problems, it
might be best to leave it. However if you want to keep the engine 100%
orginal check the Thermo-timer by measuring resistance from each pin
(there are 2) to ground. Once should be close to 0. The other should
be around 60ohms. If this looks good, give it a functional test.
Connect up the Thermo-timer and then use two needles to connect a test
light to the cold start injector connector (big blue plug). Make sure
the engine is really cold (let it sit overnight), then crank it while
watching the test light. It should go on for a few seconds then go off
if the ambient temp is 60*F. It should stay on longer if it is colder,
and less if it is hotter. I think it should be totally off at 95*F. As
far as I know, all Control pressure regulators had vacuum connections.
It allows the control pressure to drop when you accelerate on a really
cold engine. If the engine is warm or hot, the enrichment control is
not used. There is a thermal vacuum valve located underneath the plenum
that controls this. Look around at the very back of the engine
comapartment for loose vacuum hoses. Good luck!
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To All,
Sherman Williams, PPG Industries, and DuPont were contacted by DMC to
submit information on procedures for painting stainless steel panels, check
out DMC Service Bulletin ST-02-2/82 for all the details.
Page 101 of Stainless Steel Illusion has details on experiments with
painting the stainless. Paragraph two reads: "A far more intriguing way JZD
considered for adding color to his sports car was with new body panels. Not
stainless steel or metal, but soft urethane plastic bolted in place of the
metal panels. The plastic would not only add color but would be highly
resistant to small dings and bumps to the body surface. We may not of heard
the last of this bright idea."
That last line strongly relates to the recent stories talking of John
building a plastic bodied sports car.
As James has mentioned and I agree; we have
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> Subject: [DML] Re: Painted Delorean's
> Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 8:14 AM
>
> How do you explain the fender in the warehouse that had color samples
> painted on it? (I wish I took a picture... Maybe Steve Wynn can post
> one?)
>
> I was told this was a fender that was used to test, and display the
> paint possibilities on the stainless. I think someone at the warehouse
> said it came from DuPont... I saw no verification of this, I am NOT an
> authority on this.
>
> In a company of any substantial size, I find it impossible for one
> person to know about everything that was going on. DMC subcontracted
> the turbo design to Legend, maybe they also subcontracted the paint
> research to someone?
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Congratulations on surviving the car show.
I always enjoy participating.
Some people do have a lot of nerve and think that they are in a car dealer
show room. When I display my car, I prop the engine cover open and leave
the doors open. Of course, I remove anything from the car that sticky
fingers might brush against. I just remove the temptation. It is only
natural for people to touch the body, they do not believe that it is metal.
I like it when it is really bright and hot out, people leave with burned
fingers.
I bring an umbrella and chairs and just talk with the people that come by.
Perhaps next time, you will have other DeLoreans to compete against, I think
it is more fun with other D's there.
Scott
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> For what it's worth, I survived my very first car show and won 3rd place
in my division. Which division I don't know unless it was anything that
wasn't a Camaro or Mustang. I was up against a Pantera though. It was a lot
of fun and I was the only DeLorean there. Yes, everyone ignored the DO NOT
TOUCH signs and one guy had the nerve to open up my engine compartment on
his own. An ex D owner he claimed. Today I was nice, but next time...! The
car had steady admirers all day and I arrived home with a hundred
fingerprints and a nice sunburn. The joys of ownership! Fil Vigil
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Hello,
This was a very good responce. The deLorean owners associations on there buyers
guide has a whole page on hoods. Just neat if your a visual person. Can't wait
until the rest of there page is completed.
- Shain
Stian Birkeland wrote:
> Hello Tris,
>
> There where 3 types of hoods:
>
> 1) The hood with a gas flap and lines on each side of the hood.
>
> 2) The hood with no gas flap but still with lines on each side of the hood.
> These two were on the 1981 DeLoreans. Hood 2 was introduced with VIN 3200
> according to Parts Bulletin PS-01-9/81.
>
> 3) The 1982 hood was totally flat, but with a "DeLorean" logo.
>
> Why these changes?
>
> Apparantly the first hood was very practical since you didn't need to raise
> the hood to gain access to the fuel tank. This was changed apparently
> because of an overall better look of the car without the gas flap.
>
> Hood 2 was discontinued after VIN 7199 (81). The reason for this was that
> the stamping process cracked a lot of hoods due to the lines on each side.
> The 82 hood also got a DeLorean logo. (Not "DMC" but "DeLorean")
>
> Best wishes
> Mr. Stian Birkeland
> The Norwegian DeLorean Owners Club
>
> >From: "Tris Harvey-Rice" <laddie@globalnet.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> >To: <dmcnews@egroups.com>
> >Subject: [DML] Hoods. Whats that all about?
> >Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 19:35:25 +0100
> >
> >I keep seeing messages describing hoods (or bonnets, if you're in Blighty
> >like me), suggesting there were several different types of hood used on the
> >DeLorean - could someone fill me in please, as this is obviously a
> >dangerous
> >gap in my knowledge, preventing me from becoming the DeLorean Oracle!
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Tris.
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I know I am being very paranoid but In the valley where I live in
there seems to be a trend of stealing emblems and hood ornaments from
cars. I have seen numerous Honda's and Acura's missing there emblems by
the parking lot load. I have a strong feeling that at the first
opportunity a thug will try to steal and pry off my DMC emblem and my
delorean emblem on the hood. Does anyone have any suggestions on
strengthening the bonds on the emblems or any other suggestions? I am
also not sure if these emblems are glued down or bolted on, anyone know?
Thanks
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Yesterday (Saturday the 15th), I entered in the local Pontiac/GTO open car =
show. It went well, but for some reason, my DeLorean was placed in the wro=
ng category - not sure which, but I believe that I was competing against tw=
o Ford/AC Cobras (one was original) and they only gave awards for "Top in C=
lass," therefore I did not go home with anything. Although, there was an E=
-type Jag there the won the "Best non-US make" because "it was the only car=
here that was made outside the US." I now know to put country of manufact=
ure on the info. card on the dash. The Jag was really nice, but I would be=
interested to know how the judges would stack my 'D' up against the Jag.
Sean Howley
VIN#2345
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Where are the rest? The list don't stop with the Delorean does it? Ralph
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> This is a reminder that the Northern California DeLorean Motor Club will
> be participating in the British Motorcar Show on May 16th.
>
> We have enough cars coming to form our own class, but more cars would be
> even better! If you're in the area come on out and meet up with us and
> spend the day 'talking DeLorean'. This is also one of the largest
> British car shows on the west coast, drawing many cars from the
> Sacramento Valley and Bay Areas.
>
> Details of the show:
>
> The 11th Annual All British Motorcar Show and Swap Meet
> Presented by the United British Sports Car Club, Sacramento
>
> Sunday May 16, 1999 9AM to 4PM Dixon Fairgrounds, Dixon, California, USA
> (Direction: Interstate 80 to Hwy 113 South, 2.3 miles to First Street)
>
> *Swap meet space: Private Parties--$10 Business--$25
>
> *Peoples Choice Car Show: $10 pre-entry fee (May 7), $15 day of show
>
> *Free admission to the public
>
> Website: http://www.2xtreme.net/ubscc/events.htm
>
> ================================================================
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> http://www.jps.net/arkham/delorean01.htm kenm@csus.edu
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Hello,
I was wondering if anyone out there knows what font the original DeLorean
Motor Company used below their DMC logo for writing their name...
I'm not talking about the famous DMC Font, but the TrueType Font that is
used on every DMC letter and ad.
Should you have this font, please e-mail it to me!
Sincerely
Mr. Stian Birkeland
NORWAY
VIN # NOT YET!
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I show my car on the ISCA circuit and fingerprints are standard
I got to the point of putting up a sign that said PLEASE TOUCH
people actually got nervous and it actually has had the opposite effect. I
now get less finger prints
Hard to figure out people
A little windex and its as good as new
I leave my car at shows all the time and have never had a problem
I even leave stuff inside
so far so good and I don't recommend it but most of what I leave is xerox
copies so no great loss.
I do fear the idiots that come to car shows with big belt buckles or cameras
dangling from their neck. The must be brain dead. Glad there is just a
little paint.
Ken
DeLorean Car Show "Year 2000"
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I have the one with the lines but no flap and my vin is 2119 , now I think my
car has been in a shunt!!
great
Neil in Scotland
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After watching the John Delorean story on E!, I have a question for the list.
Does anyone know where the Cadillac dealership was that Delorean aquired in
Florida upon his resignation from GM?
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small point,
you guys should call it the "bonnet" as its really a British car
dont you think ?
Neil in Scotland
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Congratulation to Ken and the rest of the No.Californian Delorean owners who
got together in Dixon. There was a quick glimpse of the Deloreans on the
channel 3 news (KCRA-Sacramento), on their coverage of the show. I wish I
could have been there with the rest of you, Dixon is only 8 miles from my
house, unfortunately my D is in LA being repaired.
-SweatyEddy
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> This is a reminder that the Northern California DeLorean Motor Club will
> be participating in the British Motorcar Show on May 16th.
>
> We have enough cars coming to form our own class, but more cars would be
> even better! If you're in the area come on out and meet up with us and
> spend the day 'talking DeLorean'. This is also one of the largest
> British car shows on the west coast, drawing many cars from the
> Sacramento Valley and Bay Areas.
>
> Details of the show:
>
> The 11th Annual All British Motorcar Show and Swap Meet
> Presented by the United British Sports Car Club, Sacramento
>
> Sunday May 16, 1999 9AM to 4PM Dixon Fairgrounds, Dixon, California, USA
> (Direction: Interstate 80 to Hwy 113 South, 2.3 miles to First Street)
>
> *Swap meet space: Private Parties--$10 Business--$25
>
> *Peoples Choice Car Show: $10 pre-entry fee (May 7), $15 day of show
>
> *Free admission to the public
>
> Website: http://www.2xtreme.net/ubscc/events.htm
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I've had a similiar problem with a pickup truck (5 speed also), and working
at a car dealership, I figured out to take it to a dealership, seeing that
that is such a problem at times.
My advice would be to try and contact DeLorean One by email or telephone.
They are the best at fixing and/or rebuilding DeLoreans, and thier parts as
well.
Good Luck,
Dave Loffler
Seattle, WA USA
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 23:21:23 -0400
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Don't strengthen the glue. It's cheaper and easier to repair a missing emb=
lem than a damaged hood from prying hard. If they want it they'll get it. =
Minimize the damage.
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I know I am being very paranoid but In the valley where I live in =
there seems to be a trend of stealing emblems and hood ornaments from =
cars. I have seen numerous Honda's and Acura's missing there emblems by =
the parking lot load. I have a strong feeling that at the first =
opportunity a thug will try to steal and pry off my DMC emblem and my =
delorean emblem on the hood. Does anyone have any suggestions on =
strengthening the bonds on the emblems or any other suggestions? I am =
also not sure if these emblems are glued down or bolted on, anyone know?
Thanks =
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While the advertised top speed of the 5-speed DeLorean is aroung 125 mph, I
can't help but wondering what the top speed of the 5-speed auto DeLorean is.
Does anyone know. I talked with a previous D owner yesterday who had a 100+
mph speedometer put on his automatic D and he claimed to have reached 101 on
flat ground. Can anyone with an automatic D who has had experience topping
out their car add some input. I would greatly appreciate it
Thanks
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Neil,
You are right!
The British people call the hood a bonnet and all the USA people call the
bonnet a hood. In the DeLorean Manuals, they call it a hood. So, we shall
all call it a the hood, even though it was made in Ireland.
Just my two cents.
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On Mon, 17 May 1999, Christopher Mack wrote:
> While the advertised top speed of the 5-speed DeLorean is aroung 125
> mph, I can't help but wondering what the top speed of the 5-speed auto
The top speeds are fairly similar - between 120 and 130 mph. The DeLorean
is drag limited (in fact, a 5-speed is just as fast in 4th gear as it is
in 5th) rather than redline limited, which means that the only difference
in top speeds will be due to drivetrain losses in the auto trans sapping
power. The auto in the DMC is fairly good about that, so you should
expect about the same top speed.
However, due to fewer gears in the auto trans, you will take a bit longer
to get there.
Once you do manage to get up over 120 mph (maybe you are in the Silver
State Classic, or feel like spending the night in jail) you've got to slow
down again. An article in the Gold Portfolio mentioned that the DeLorean
brakes are off-the-shelf components. Does anyone know what shelf they
came off of, that is, what car they came from originally, and are the
rotors and calipers from the same car.
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In a message dated 5/16/99 6:30:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dtaylor2@neo.rr.com writes:
<< I saw that pic a while back and I just wanted to say WHAT ARE SOME PEOPLE
THINKING! Why would you butch a D like that!?!?
Just my thoughts.
>>
If you think that is something,go to www.in2time.com/,these people converted
a Delorean into a Tow Truck,see the pic,were they are towing a huge RV,and a
Delorean attached to the back of the RV !
Claude
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I thought the automatics were 3 speeds?
>From: Christopher Mack <cjmack@jps.net>
>Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com
>To: dmcnews@egroups.com
>Subject: [DML] Top speed of Auto D's
>Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 05:26:13 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>While the advertised top speed of the 5-speed DeLorean is aroung 125 mph, I
>can't help but wondering what the top speed of the 5-speed auto DeLorean
>is.
>Does anyone know. I talked with a previous D owner yesterday who had a
>100+
>mph speedometer put on his automatic D and he claimed to have reached 101
>on
>flat ground. Can anyone with an automatic D who has had experience topping
>out their car add some input. I would greatly appreciate it
>
>Thanks
>
>Christopher Mack
>cjmack@jps.net
>
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This past Saturday I had quite an enjoyable time at the MCAS Miramar auto
show. I visited with Fil Vigil, owner of the ony DeLorean in the show.
Pictures of Fil's DeLorean are on my web site at
http://www.jps.net/cjmack/delorean.htm
There was almost every type of muscle car at the event including the Pontiac
GTO and Ford Mustang. There were even 4 Pantera's there along with a '68
AMC AMX. All the owners that I talked to were more than happy to answer any
questions I had about their cars.
Fil's car caught quite a lot of attention.
I was amazed how many people flocked around Fil's D. One individual
previously owned a DeLorean and told me about his experiences with his D.
He had bought a black int auto D from a used car lot in '86 and sold the car
about a year later. Apparently he liked the attention he got from the car,
but he complained about the acceleration of the car, the periodic shutting
off of the cooling fans (which would often leave him with an overheated
car), and the auto transmission computer governor malfunctioning which he
said would cause his car to downshift on the freeway for no apparent reason.
I was wondering, I know that now updated are available to remedy most, if
not all these problems, but were there any available back then in the mid to
late 80's? Please email me and let me know
thanks,
Christopher Mack
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> Congratulation to Ken and the rest of the No.Californian Delorean owners
who
> got together in Dixon. There was a quick glimpse of the Deloreans on the
> channel 3 news (KCRA-Sacramento), on their coverage of the show. I wish I
> could have been there with the rest of you, Dixon is only 8 miles from my
> house, unfortunately my D is in LA being repaired.
> -SweatyEddy
Just thought I'd give a little report on the show.. I'm sure Ken will chime
in and give greater detail about the show, but here's the quicky rundown...
Ken Montgomery, Lee Seiler and I had the three D's at the show. It was
loads of fun to shoot the breeze with Ken, Lee and their wives.. I managed
to take my D from Eugene, OR all the way to Dixon, CA (about 1100 miles
round trip) without any problems... Not only was it the first show I have
taken my D to, but it was the farthest I've taken it out of town! Very
scary at first, but it ran like a champ... And when I got home after driving
all day there was no signs of cramping or fatigue normally associated with
long drives in "modern" cars.. Anyhoo, Ken's car has to be the best looking
D I've seen in person and Lee's car had some great add-ons (hand-tailored
dash cover, 5-point seatbelt on the driver's side and a really cool
preheater hose sleeve!). It was a blast! I can't wait to get together with
some owners from this area at some shows this summer (hint hint Oregon
owners!!!). Ken, of course, got 1st in class and I edged out Lee for 2nd
(most likely because Lee was sitting in the shade while I was running around
telling people to vote for me!! <g> But I have a full-body sunburn and
Lee's probably sitting at home quite comfortably not covered in aloe!!)
- Dave
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My understanding is that he never actually got the Cadillac dealership. His
severance package called for a dealership along with his retirement pension
provided that he not work in the auto industry for a specified number of
years. By starting DMC, he violated this agreement with GM and lost the
dealership he'd been promised along with his sizeable pension.
Brian
VIN 1597
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Since response to the message I put on the list last week concerning tapes of
the episode of "Scandal" that featured JZD has been so overwhelming, I
decided to post this message to let everyone who is interested in getting a
copy know how to do so.
Simply send me a blank video tape (VHS format) along with a self addressed
stamped envelope to return it to you in. I'm not making anything off of
this, so I am not paying any postage. Make sure you've had your return
envelope weighted with your tape at the post office to make sure it will
return to you.
Please allow 4-6 weeks to get your tape back. I can only dub one at a time.
I have cut the commercials, but this isn't a professional job. I did the
best I could with my VCR's, but the picture and sound quality is very good.
I'll record all tapes in the SP mode for best sound and picture. The tape
runs approximately 22 minutes.
Send your tapes and return envelopes to the following address:
Brian Henson
1169 Church Street
Orangeburg, SC 29115
If you have a problem with the tape I send to you, please let me know by
emailing me privately.
Brian
VIN 1597
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My experience and research with D brakes was only somewhat satisfying. Other
than buying rebuild parts from know D suppliers, there was a gentleman at
Girling who let on that the front brake assemblies were from those EARLY
Capris. He never sent the information he said he would. And I merely rebuilt
what I had, given the parts sent from D suppliers.
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Hello,
Ebay has a delorean automatic frame for sale. He has redone the coating.
It looks to be in great shape. May be a chnace to buy one cheaper then dmc
houston.
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IMHO, if you make it harder for them to steal, they will just cause more
damage trying to steal it!
".." wrote:
>
> I know I am being very paranoid but In the valley where I live in
> there seems to be a trend of stealing emblems and hood ornaments from
> cars. I have seen numerous Honda's and Acura's missing there emblems by
> the parking lot load. I have a strong feeling that at the first
> opportunity a thug will try to steal and pry off my DMC emblem and my
> delorean emblem on the hood. Does anyone have any suggestions on
> strengthening the bonds on the emblems or any other suggestions? I am
> also not sure if these emblems are glued down or bolted on, anyone know?
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Ralph,
Sorry I left out the end of the list. Best wishes,
Robert Lamrock
Belfast.
63 1981-1982 Delorean DMC-12
64 1965-1969 Ford GT40
65 1968-1972 Pontiac GTO
66 1991-1997 BMW 8 Series
67 1968-1970 Dodge Charger
68 1967-1974 Ferrari 206 and 246 GT Dino
69 1996-present BMW 7 Series
70 1935-1937 Cord Model 810/812
71 1962-1965 Shelby/AC 289 Cobra
72 1969-1970 Ford Mustang
73 1998-present Lexus GS400
74 1946-1948 Tucker Torpedo
75 1907-1925 Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost/Ghost
76 1968-1972 Chevrolet Chevelle
77 1999 BMW M Coupe
78 1993-present Chevrolet Camaro
79 1987 Buick GNX
80 1996-present BMW 5 Series
81 1955 Chevrolet Bel Air
82 1975-1985 Ferrari 308 GTS
83 1996-present Mercedes-Benz E Class
84 1993-present Pontiac Firebird/Trans Am
85 1957-1958 Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa
86 1967-1973 Lamborghini Miura
87 1993-1995 Mazda RX7
88 1927-1933 Bugatti Royale
89 1970-1980 DeTomaso Pantera
90 1948-1954 Jaguar XK120
91 1966-1968 Ferrari 275 GTB
92 1950-1965 Porsche 356
93 1969-1972 Oldsmobile Cutlass 442
94 1991-1998 BMW 3 series
95 1964-1965 Pontiac GTO
96 1971-1995 Rolls-Royce Corniche
97 1963-1964 Studebaker Avanti
98 1998-present Lincoln Navigator
99 1996-present BMW Z3
100 1959 Cadillac Eldorado
*Some models and years were combined in accordance to reader voting
SOURCE duPont Registry
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:53:46 -0400
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Was talking to another list member and we both thought that it would be a
great idea to get our Deloreans together, eat and talk cars.
I can think of no better place to do this at, then Hooters. ( I love the
wings........)
I know this may be a little short on notice, but we are planing this for
this Sunday at 3:00pm. And we will be meeting at the Greensboro location.
This is an open invite and if you have any questions please e-mail me at
doctor280@msn.com.
Keep the dream alive and be safe,
Robert Starling
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Neil,
Question for our friendly European counterparts...Would our "hood"
actually be considered the "boot" instead of the "bonnet" since it covers a
luggage compartment and not the engine, or doesn't that matter? Just
curious,
Josh
VIN 5102
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>
> you guys should call it the "bonnet" as its really a British car
> dont you think ?
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Hi there -
I like to come to a compromise on this situation.... We call the front of a
car the "bonnet" and the back the "boot". However with a rear-engined car,
(a VW beetle for example) the "boot" is at the front, which to me always
sounds silly.
I always refer to the bonnet and trunk at the front of a DeLorean, and the
hood at the back.
Just me being wierd and English :-)
BTW Just spent two hours on the left-hand door of my all new DeLorean model
courtesy of Lee Seiler (arrived on Saturday). Me building this model is like
getting my girlfriend to build a computer, but it's coming along!
Martin
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Is there a contact address for John Z. Delorean? I am a real fan
of his sports car. I wish I could write to him about some questions.
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In a message dated 5/17/99 11:52:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, shain@noln.com
writes:
<<
Ebay has a delorean automatic frame for sale. He has redone the coating.
It looks to be in great shape. May be a chance to buy one cheaper then dmc
Houston. >>
Be aware that that frame will only fit a automatic equipped Delorean,the
shifter plate
is welded in place and cannot be removed,and the automatic shifter plate is
totally different from the five speed.
Claude
000570
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Sorry about the typo, I meant the 3 speed automatic. (I know, only the
manual was a 5-speed)
Chris
At 10:21 PM 5/16/1999 PDT, you wrote:
>I thought the automatics were 3 speeds?
>
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>>Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 05:26:13 -0700 (PDT)
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>>
>>While the advertised top speed of the 5-speed DeLorean is aroung 125 mph, I
>>can't help but wondering what the top speed of the 5-speed auto DeLorean
>>is.
>>Does anyone know. I talked with a previous D owner yesterday who had a
>>100+
>>mph speedometer put on his automatic D and he claimed to have reached 101
>>on
>>flat ground. Can anyone with an automatic D who has had experience topping
>>out their car add some input. I would greatly appreciate it
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Christopher Mack
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Just got the registration information for The Original British Car Day in
Bowie,
Maryland.
Early Registration Deadline is June 1, $12, and the number to call for
information is
703-323-1260. Website address is: http://members.aol.com/MGTClub
Date of Event is: Sunday, June 27, 1999.
Drive-in registration fee is $20.
Field opens at 8 am, judging closes at 1 pm. Awards at 3 pm.
I have the information on the DeLorean Mid Atlantic Event Site as well.
http://hometown.aol.com/DeLorean31/dma.html
Gary Gore
Activities Director
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Yes...if anyone knows an email, etc...anything, please let me know also.
Dave Loffler
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There's a rumour going around in Europe that Volvo has plans for a gullwing
sports car. Several magazines have spread this rumour. I thought I'd send an
e-mail to Volvo to find out. I did that and also sent an e-mail to Lotus to
hear if they too had plans for such a car.
These were the answers: While Lotus denied plans for a gullwing
categorically, Volvo was more reluctant in their reply, neither denying such
plans nor confirming such plans.
In other words, Lotus has definitely no plans of producing a gullwing sports
car, but Volvo MAY have such plans. Interesting...
Just my interpretation...
Regards
Mr. Stian Birkeland
Norwegian DeLorean Club
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Napa autoparts lists the rebuild brake caliper parts for the D. The kit
matches mid 70's Capris and other cars.
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Looking for a QUALITY VHS dupe of the show, will pay for cassette and shipping.
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I'm hoping that some of you out there can help answer some questions that
started rolling around in my head after watching "The E! True Hollywood
Story" of JZD. Hillel Levin mentioned that DeLorean had mixed with some
unsavory characters during the years prior to his cocaine arrest. I remember
a name that has come up in Levin's books as well as several other books about
JZD and that name is Roy Nesseth.
From what I've gathered, Nesseth was supposedly involved in some deals with
John involving a ranch in Idaho and a dealership located somewhere in the
Midwest. I can't remember if it was Kansas, Nebraska, or Missouri. Anyway,
Nesseth was supposedly DeLorean's strong arm tactics man. He's named by
Levin as the man who tried to take several DMC's from the quality assurance
center after they'd been foreclosed on by Bank of America. My question is
this: how much of these stories is true, and whatever happened to Nesseth?
Does anyone know of any other unsavory characters DeLorean was supposed to
have been involved with?
On another note, what happened to Bill Collins, Bill Haddad, Dick Brown, and
the secretary who informed a member of parliament about what she considered
improprieties at DMC? I can't remember her name.
I hope some of you out there can shed some light on these questions.
Brian
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