From: eGroups Digest [dmcnews@egroups.com] Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 12:34 AM To: David.Swingle Subject: dmcnews digest eGroups Daily Digest: dmcnews has 33 new messages. Click here http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1845 to read them. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 1845. Sam Commarato Air conditioning Short... 1846. raddad@cmn.net SS Cleaners 1847. Mike Re: Torsion bar appearance 1848. KayoOng@aol.com Re: Snow Driving 1849. dcsj@excite.com Re: Steering wheel aligment 1850. Brian Henderlong Blue DeLorean 1851. Robert Brandys Re: 97 DeLorean on Hot Rod TV 1852. DMCIMF@aol.com Re: Steering wheel aligment 1853. Michel Poulin Service Center 1854. raynet@home.net Re: Steering wheel aligment 1855. LovDMC12@aol.com Re: dmcnews digest 1856. Mike Substelny Re: Loud rear-end Clunking/Banging 1857. JCox4001@aol.com Car Covers 1858. Ace Underhill Need Parts Cross Reference 1859. DMC Joe Re: SOUTHEAST HOUSE CALLS UPDATE 1860. David Sontos Re: Loud rear-end Clunking/Banging 1861. raynet@home.net Delorean and Laser Speed Detection 1862. Gerald Deutsch Re: Snow Driving 1863. dcsj@excite.com Re: Need Parts Cross Reference 1864. darryl@techline.com Re: Centerforce clutches 1865. DMC Joe Re: Need Parts Cross Reference 1866. Mike Substelny Re: Service Center 1867. DMC Joe Re: Air conditioning Short... 1868. Robert Brandys Re: Delorean and Laser Speed Detection 1869. Ian Foster Old Magazine Article : 'CAR STYLING' 1981 1870. William T Wilson Re: Delorean and Laser Speed Detection 1871. Martin Gutkowski Re: Torsion bar appearance 1872. SweatyEddy Re: Solvents 1873. SweatyEddy Re: Delorean and Laser Speed Detection 1874. James Espey Re: Looking For A Few Things 1875. BRUCE BENSON Re: Solvents 1876. DeLorean31@aol.com Re: Delorean and Laser Speed Detection 1877. WINGD2@aol.com Speeding Tickets - Etc... ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 1845 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1845 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Sam Commarato" Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:05:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Air conditioning Short... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok, another chapter in the air conditioning saga....When I turn the fan on with the vent, no problem. When I switch over to A/C, I hear a pop and the fuse blows right away (#10 - 25amp). I am competely at a loss. Has anyone had this problem and/or have any solution ideas? thx, sam 5616 -----Original Message----- From: Jus4sho@aol.com To: dmcnews@egroups.com Date: Sunday, July 25, 1999 11:59 PM Subject: [DML] Re: A/C Pressures 134a >I recently exchanged emails with someone from the list who gave me the rest >and low side operating pressures for an R-12 a/c system. I've misplaced your >email address, but would like to know what the same specifications are for a >134a system? (I've been told they're higher.) Please respond directly to >me. Thanks again. > >Steve > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > ------------------------------ message 1846 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1846 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:46:10 -0600 (MDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 From: raddad@cmn.net Subject: [DML] SS Cleaners Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was going to hold off on this, but since Marc asked about the "new" cleaner from DMC Houston, I guess I will respond. First, as a DeLorean owner since 1982 I have tried every single suggested product and a few "home remedies". I invariably came back to window cleaner for just about the same reason mentioned here. All others darkened the appearance,left a film, attracted dust and, in my opinion, also attracted finger prints. The one disadvantage of window cleaner is that it does nothing for, and in fact seems to dull, the black trim. This, in turn, means you've got to use one of the hundred or so products designed for the trim and it is impossible to get it on without a few smudges to the stainles steel. I recently tried some of the "new" cleaner. I was very impressed. Yes, it does darken the appearance a bit, but much less than the other spray SS cleaners. Yes, it does leave a hint of a film, but again much less than the others. It worked very quickly. No problem with streaking. And, it works well on all the black trim. I have only tried it once so I am reluctant to give it a 100% thumbs up since it is rather expensive. However, if future use supports my intial reaction, I'd say it is a real winner. Dick Ryan VIN 16867 ------------------------------ message 1847 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1847 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Mike" Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:41:57 -0700 Subject: [DML] Re: Torsion bar appearance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >question is..... Can the bars be painted with anything to cover up this >discoloration? >Tom Watkins >#5732 Hey Tom, I work for a company that builds off road vehicles for the military and we use torsion bars for are rear suspension. Before we install the bars we send them out for powder coating (splines taped). I've worked with rusting bars many times before. I put them on the lathe and spin one slow. As it turns, I use a scotch brite pad (blue) on an air sander and remove as much rust as I can. Then I use a corrosion inhibitor and let it sit for a day then its re-powder coated. I know this sounds like a rude process but custom bars can be very expensive and we've never had an old set of bars snap. You can also do this by hand with a mild scotch brite pad. Remove the rust before your bars start to pit, if you let it go or paint over the rust you'll have a problem. Mike Vin#1113 ------------------------------ message 1848 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1848 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: KayoOng@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 00:12:07 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Snow Driving Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to comment about driving in the snow. My DeLorean is a daily driven car. I driven my DeLorean in every weather conditions except hurricanes, tornadoes or a blizzards. I have driven in many heavy snow falls during my travels. The DeLorean is not a good driving vehicle in the snow. Any snow under 3" is about the best the DeLorean with all weather tires can handle. The DeLorean is difficult to handle in 4" inch of snow, let along 8" inches of snow. I am puzzled to the claims, in the drivability and the handling of the DeLorean in the snow. In terms of a physical reality, isn't the clearance of DeLorean between chassis and the ground 6.10" or 155 mm? So, how do one drive in snow that is 8" deep??? I definitely must take lessons from those who claim this ability or have equip my DeLorean vehicle to be drivable for such conditions, then I too, I can drive and travel in 8" of snow. Kayo Ong #05508 Lic 9D NY ------------------------------ message 1849 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1849 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: dcsj@excite.com Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:59:21 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Steering wheel aligment Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:26:01 -0500, Dave Swingle wrote: > > The other question is.....If you remove the center steering wheel pad > > there is a large nut holding the wheel onto the column. Can this be > > loosened up and reposition the steering wheel this way?? I don't > > think, so but it's worth asking. > > This is a very difficult procedure. There are puller holes in the steering > wheel but they are so small that they are guaranteed to strip out before you > get the wheel off the car. They are also an impossible-to-find metric > size/length. The wheel is loc-tited to the column, so its very hard to > remove without hammering on the column or heating it, which causes other > problems. I'd try to get the lower end apart. > >dave Just a note: That impossible-to-find metric bolt for the steering wheel removal isn't metric. Its an SAE 1/4- 28 NF thread. I had to use 4 inch long bolts when I removed my wheel . But that was when I replaced it with a better one. Not for recentering it . That is better done at the lower shaft joints it's probably only off by one spline tooth anyway. Dennis ________________________________________________________________ Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com ------------------------------ message 1850 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1850 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 02:47:40 -0400 From: Brian Henderlong Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Blue DeLorean Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm pleased to announce an update to my 'Painted DeLoreans' website: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm Kirk Brandon has generously given me permission to post two pictures of his beautiful blue DeLorean (VIN #10246). There are a few more pictures of the car on the way, and I will let you all know when those are up, as well. Thanks, and I hope you enjoy the pictures! Brian Henderlong / Tampa, FL / DOA# 4977 / No VIN yet... mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm ------------------------------ message 1851 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1851 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:26:06 +0000 From: Robert Brandys MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19990708180438.22228.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> Subject: [DML] Re: 97 DeLorean on Hot Rod TV Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The 97 DeLorean Time Machine was a big hit on the Hot Rod power tour at Route 66 Drag Raceway on July 24-25. The car was on the HOT ROD TV show on Sunday, and will be shown on a later show. Hopefully some one can tape this and make it available to the list. The Sunday coverage showed the car being dyno tested. There is also a very good chance it will be in the upcoming issue of HOT ROD covering this event. Dr. Bob ------------------------------ message 1852 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1852 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DMCIMF@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:28:13 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Steering wheel aligment Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had the same problem after the new bushing was installed, and everything was back in place. All you need to do is get a steering wheel puller to remove it (it has splines also) so you can line it up. Bill Glover DMCIMF @ aol D # 6905 ------------------------------ message 1853 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1853 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:51:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Michel Poulin In-Reply-To: <00c901bed7cf$03204080$99ace5cf@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Service Center Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit #702 is in trouble. We need to find the closest service center to Indianapolis, Indiana. I thought that there was one in Ohio, but I can't find a message w/ their name/address. THanks! -=mike=- #702, spitting and sputering and now won't start. *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* | http://www.poulincomm.com | | http://www.WWJP.com | *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* ------------------------------ message 1854 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1854 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:07:52 -0700 From: raynet@home.net In-Reply-To: <379C5B24.7ACDE7F2@megalink.net> Subject: [DML] Re: Steering wheel aligment Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -SNIP- With advise from Joe at DMC services I successfully replaced my steering column bushing! I have only one minor problem. I"m afraid to ask this BUT.........I didn't quite line up the column spline with the upper universal joint when reinstalling the column and now the steering wheel is a tad off center when traveling perfectly straight. Please don't tell me I have to remove the column again ( taking off trim pads etc...) -SNIP- I just went though the same thing when I had to replace my bushing. The easiest way to do it IS to take out the steering collumn unfortunately as there is not alot of room to work with the joint on the other side. Basically what I had to do was take it out and put it back in straight, which in itself is a feat because its difficult to tell where perfectly straight is. If its only off by a notch, you may be better off having the front end realigned to the wheel, If more than a notch, then its steering column ahoy time Raymond McKay ------------------------------ message 1855 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1855 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: LovDMC12@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:47:51 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: dmcnews digest Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike, I bought a cover for my D at K-Mart that mentioned DeLoreans on the side of the box. The cover is made by Budge and the size that fits a D is 2. It costs less than $50 and is well worth the money. Brian VIN 1597 ------------------------------ message 1856 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1856 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:52:01 -0400 From: Mike Substelny MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Loud rear-end Clunking/Banging Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom, by driving with loose lug nuts it is possible that you have damaged your rear wheel bearings. This happened to me once. I learned the hard way that you need to be extra careful about the lug nuts and studs on aluminum wheels. If this is what happened to you then it has nothing to do with the alignment job; it is only a coincidence. - Mike Substelny ------------------------------ message 1857 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1857 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: JCox4001@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:55:32 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Car Covers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike, and the List, Wal-Mart does sell a car cover that is a wonderful low cost fit for the DeLorean. It is made by "BUDGE", and the size you want is #2. The DeLorean is listed on the back of the box. It sell for just under $20.00. If anyone has trouble finding this item, e-mail me directly, and I'll see that you get one. Jeff ------------------------------ message 1858 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1858 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Ace Underhill" Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:59:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Need Parts Cross Reference Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I will be taking Vin:2860 to Mesa Autoworks this week, to get the brakes done and look into a cooling problem. Does anyone remember where to get the Parts Cross Reference list. I had it, but can't remember where I got it from. I particularly need to know the replacement brake parts. Thanks! -Ace Underhill- Brilliant Screen Entertainment ------------------------------ message 1859 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1859 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:00:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: SOUTHEAST HOUSE CALLS UPDATE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit S Carolina, N Carolina and Tennessee DeLorean owners this is your final notice to schedule an inspection of you D at your home by yours truly. We will be in your neighborhood between Friday 7/30 and Tuesday 8/2. For complete details visit our web-site or e-mail me. During our House Call trip we would love to meet and chat with owners along the way. "We accept diner invitations that include cheer, beer and of course lots of DeLorean talk". Check out the HOUSE CALL page at our web-site for the latest information on the cities and dates where you might find us. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ------------------------------ message 1860 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1860 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:17:32 -0400 From: David Sontos MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <379CF708.E70933AF@megalink.net> Subject: [DML] Re: Loud rear-end Clunking/Banging Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If your car is making that much noise it should be easy to find the problem. I would jack the rear end up, don't forget the jack stands, and turn the rear wheels by hand. Check the CV joints, wheel lug nuts, and differential, these are the three main problem areas. You should find where the clunking is coming from easily. Watkins Family wrote: > I went for a sunset drive tonight and all of a sudden...wap,wap, wap, upon acceleration. I > nursed it home, and at one point sounded like it has stopped but then reappeared. > > Tom > #5732 ------------------------------ message 1861 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1861 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:31:16 -0700 From: raynet@home.net Subject: [DML] Delorean and Laser Speed Detection Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well it finally happened, I got a ticket while driving my D. Ok so its difficult to drive the car within the contraints of CT speed limits... Anyway what I found interesting was that the officer clocked me at 66 with his laser. Now my speedo said 55mph a definate far cry from his reading. Now I just recently had my speedo fixed and calibrated so I am running on the assumption that it is correct. So this brings me to the second possibility. I remember a while back, though I can't seem to find it in the archives a discussion about laser speed detection in regards to the Delorean. I don't remember there being any final statement on it, so any solid information would be greatly appreciated (in other words I really need to get out of this ticket. Thanks Raymond McKay ------------------------------ message 1862 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1862 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Gerald Deutsch" Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 00:09:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Snow Driving Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kayo, It's simple. If the DeLorean has around 6 inches of gound clearance, then it can rise up over the snow since it is compacting some of it as it goes along; at least an inch or two. Remember, the snow might be 8 inches deep, but the deLoreans tire isn't hitting the pavement either. The compacted snow under the tire gives it that extra boost up. Understand? ---Dan -----Original Message----- From: KayoOng@aol.com To: dmcnews@egroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 9:55 PM Subject: [DML] Re: Snow Driving >I would like to comment about driving in the snow. > >My DeLorean is a daily driven car. I driven my DeLorean in every weather >conditions except hurricanes, tornadoes or a blizzards. I have driven in >many heavy snow falls during my travels. The DeLorean is not a good driving >vehicle in the snow. Any snow under 3" is about the best the DeLorean with >all weather tires can handle. > >The DeLorean is difficult to handle in 4" inch of snow, let along 8" inches >of snow. >I am puzzled to the claims, in the drivability and the handling of the >DeLorean in the snow. > >In terms of a physical reality, isn't the clearance of DeLorean between >chassis and the ground 6.10" or 155 mm? So, how do one drive in snow that is >8" deep??? > >I definitely must take lessons from those who claim this ability or have >equip my DeLorean vehicle to be drivable for such conditions, then I too, I >can drive and travel in 8" of snow. > >Kayo Ong >#05508 >Lic 9D NY > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > > ------------------------------ message 1863 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1863 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: dcsj@excite.com Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:26:39 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Need Parts Cross Reference Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:59:16 -0700, Ace Underhill wrote: > I will be taking Vin:2860 to Mesa Autoworks this week, to get the brakes > done and look into a cooling problem. Does anyone remember where to get the > Parts Cross Reference list. I had it, but can't remember where I got it > from. I particularly need to know the replacement brake parts. > > Thanks! > > -Ace Underhill- > Brilliant Screen Entertainment > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > The cross reference list is located at dmc-12.com. However use caution I have tried using it with very disappointing results . many of the numbers given are no longer any good or at least couldn't be found in anyones parts books. Yes, I thaught it would be great if I could go down to my local parts stores and actually buy the parts I needed. But I've found very few items locally. In the end, it usually cost me more in running around time and gas than it was worth. Besides when you walk up to the parts counter and give the guy a part # to look up he will almost always ask you what kind of car is it in . you say Delorean , and the parts guy will usually laugh an make some kind of joke. I get tired of these comments after awhile The engine related parts are readily availiable most others aren't . I replaced my clutch last fall with a centerforce unit, I priced out the parts locally and found them too be the same price as if I had ordered them as a kit from Rob Grady. The difference was that I spent a couple of days ,after work, running around only to be told that it would take a week to get . Instead of making that 3 min. phone call and having all the parts there in a few days guarantied to be correct. My 2 cents Dennis ________________________________________________________________ Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com ------------------------------ message 1864 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1864 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:57:30 +0000 From: "darryl@techline.com" Mime-version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Centerforce clutches Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have to reply to the comment by "Dr. Bob": "I would not recommended a center force clutch for a D. I bought one years ago when my stock clutch died. After installing it PROPERLY, the counter weight would not clear the pressure plate. I eventually had to remove them. Go with a stock clutch pack." I've sold and installed lots of Centerforce clutches for DeLoreans over the years and have a custom-made one in my supercharged car. They work great. And the counterweights are on the pressure plate, so how could they not clear it? Somebody installed something incorrectly. Darryl Tinnerstet Specialty Automotive 4 LaBelle Lane McCleary, WA 98557 PH: 360-495-4640 FAX: 360-495-4680 ------------------------------ message 1865 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1865 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:41:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Need Parts Cross Reference Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are almost ashamed to admit but it we are the creators of the original (1987) DeLorean Parts Xover List. We stopped maintaining the list because the DeLorean parts suppliers, over all, provide superior parts that are price competitive with most parts found on the several lists that are now floating through the DeLorean community. If you are looking for a particular item e-mail us directly for currebt Xover information. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: Ace Underhill > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Need Parts Cross Reference > Date: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 5:59 PM > > I will be taking Vin:2860 to Mesa Autoworks this week, to get the brakes > done and look into a cooling problem. Does anyone remember where to get the > Parts Cross Reference list. I had it, but can't remember where I got it > from. I particularly need to know the replacement brake parts. > > Thanks! > > -Ace Underhill- > Brilliant Screen Entertainment > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > ------------------------------ message 1866 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1866 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:51:21 -0400 From: Mike Substelny MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: [DML] Re: Service Center Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michel Poulin wrote: > #702 is in trouble. We need to find the closest service center to > Indianapolis, Indiana. I thought that there was one in Ohio, but I can't > find a message w/ their name/address. Dave Bauerle is in Radnor, Ohio. That's not too far from Indianapolis. According to the Advertisers section of the DOA website (www.delorean-owners.org) their number is (740) 595-3348. Beware! Ohio area codes have been changing lately, but I think this is the correct new number. - Mike Substelny ------------------------------ message 1867 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1867 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:25:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Air conditioning Short... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Go back to the engine compartment and unplug the AC compressor clutch pull-in wire (red). If the fuse holds the problem is in the compressor. If the fuse still blows e-mail me directly for further instructions. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: Sam Commarato > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Air conditioning Short... > Date: Monday, July 26, 1999 4:05 PM > > Ok, another chapter in the air conditioning saga....When I turn the fan on > with the vent, no problem. When I switch over to A/C, I hear a pop and the > fuse blows right away (#10 - 25amp). I am competely at a loss. Has anyone > had this problem and/or have any solution ideas? > > thx, > sam > 5616 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jus4sho@aol.com > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Date: Sunday, July 25, 1999 11:59 PM > Subject: [DML] Re: A/C Pressures 134a > > > >I recently exchanged emails with someone from the list who gave me the rest > >and low side operating pressures for an R-12 a/c system. I've misplaced > your > >email address, but would like to know what the same specifications are for > a > >134a system? (I've been told they're higher.) Please respond directly to > >me. Thanks again. > > > >Steve > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address > moderator@dmcnews.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > ------------------------------ message 1868 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1868 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:38:54 +0000 From: Robert Brandys MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7nl8f4$sf67@eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean and Laser Speed Detection Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The assumption that there is a relationship between vehicle speed and total accident deaths is constantly used by police to justify speed enforcement. Studies of accidents and vehicle death by DOT and the national safety council clearly show that most injuries and fatalities happen on local street at interection at speeds less than 40 mph. If police spent more time analyzing accident causes and getting dangerous intersections redesigned and fixed, there would be many less accidents and deaths. In reality, speed enforcement is just another source of revenue to local communities. ALMOST 50% of all fatalities are side impacts, speed has very little to do with this type of accident. ------------------------------ message 1869 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1869 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Ian Foster" References: <838f700a.24cf84d4@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:53:26 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Old Magazine Article : 'CAR STYLING' 1981 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This may be old news to some ... On a lead from another DMC enthusiast here in HongKong I searched through a wee book store in the city centre. I came across "CAR STYLING" Vol#36 of Autumn, 1981. If any of you haven't seen this article on the design and manufacture of the DeLorean then you're missing out! As a Designer/Architect I was in awe, as a N.Irish man I was fascinated! Well worth the US$8 it cost me! Cheers, IAN (vin.#6425) ------------------------------ message 1870 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1870 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:11:11 -0400 (EDT) From: William T Wilson In-Reply-To: <7nl8f4$sf67@eGroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean and Laser Speed Detection Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 raynet@home.net wrote: > Anyway what I found interesting was that the officer clocked me at 66 > with his laser. Now my speedo said 55mph a definate far cry from his > reading. Now I just recently had my speedo fixed and calibrated so I Laser is sometimes funky like that. If you elect to fight the ticket, you should subpoena the laser calibration records. Failing that, try pointing the laser unit at the wall. It might read 11 mph. :} (seriously.) It's also possible that the policeman inadvertently clocked some other car and you got blamed for it because you 'looked' fast. > the second possibility. I remember a while back, though I can't seem > to find it in the archives a discussion about laser speed detection in > regards to the Delorean. I don't remember there being any final Laser speed detection devices are totally unaffected by the design and/or construction of the DeLorean. Laser devices work by locking onto the license plate or headlights, which are pretty much the same on any car. ------------------------------ message 1871 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1871 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:53:46 +0100 From: Martin Gutkowski MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <003301bed7e1$fad614a0$8cbefdd0@mike-quinto> Subject: [DML] Re: Torsion bar appearance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit But surely you're talking about steel beams here? The torsion bars from a D's door are stainless and therefore any marks will not be rust (?) Martin Mike wrote: > >question is..... Can the bars be painted with anything to cover up this > >discoloration? > >Tom Watkins > >#5732 > > Hey Tom, > I work for a company that builds off road vehicles for the military and we > use torsion bars for are rear suspension. ------------------------------ message 1872 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1872 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "SweatyEddy" References: <7n9pn6$gkuc@eGroups.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:57:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Solvents Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike, I wouldn't recommend Trichloroethane for cleaning anything vinyl. I am a pharmaceutical chemist and have some experience with organic solvents. If the Trich' does not deform your vinyl after the first few uses it certainly will with repeated use. It also "dehydrates" the vinyl which will promote premature aging and cracking. Trich' is harsher and less healthier than acetone. I've used acetone on my carpet but I still wouldn't recommend it for the dash. The only thing I would use Trich' for is removing road tar etc from an unpainted body. My 2 cents, -SweatyEddy ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 1:12 PM Subject: [DML] Solvents > I was cleaning the interior vinyl portions of my corvette last night > and used > Tricloroethane (also referred to as T 1.1.1. I think , you can buy it > at Home Depot as a carpet / spot remover and I think it goes by the > brand name Afta) to remove some spots that soap and water / Fantastic > etc. wouldn't clean. It worked great, may be even too good ( I think > it will take the paint right off the vinyly if you're not careful). > This is a nasty solvent! Probably causes liver damage and cancer and I > believe it desolves some types of plastics ect. I'm not recommending > that anyone use this but with all the talk about Acetone and MEK I > would like to know if this solvent is little better to use on vinyl > when you need to use a very strong solvent degreaser? > > Mike D. > Vin 3113 > NY Lic DLORIANN > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > > ------------------------------ message 1873 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1873 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "SweatyEddy" References: <7nl8f4$sf67@eGroups.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:20:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean and Laser Speed Detection Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I successfully got out of a ticket by arguing that the ionization ratio in the zinc component of the stainless steel caused accelerated reflection of the radar beam relative to that of conventional automobile sheet metal resulting in an approximate +15% error. Aint a lick of truth, or sense to it but I think the judge just wanted me to shut up. I brought a few charts to with some non-sensical chemical equations on them. I didn't have as good of luck when the CHP airplane nailed me coming home from Lake Tahoe! -SweatyEddy ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 9:31 PM Subject: [DML] Delorean and Laser Speed Detection > Well it finally happened, I got a ticket while driving my D. Ok so its > difficult to drive the car within the contraints of CT speed limits... > Anyway what I found interesting was that the officer clocked me at 66 > with his laser. Now my speedo said 55mph a definate far cry from his > reading. Now I just recently had my speedo fixed and calibrated so I > am running on the assumption that it is correct. So this brings me to > the second possibility. I remember a while back, though I can't seem > to find it in the archives a discussion about laser speed detection in > regards to the Delorean. I don't remember there being any final > statement on it, so any solid information would be greatly appreciated > (in other words I really need to get out of this ticket. > > Thanks > > Raymond McKay > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > > ------------------------------ message 1874 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1874 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:16:47 -0700 (PDT) From: James Espey MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Looking For A Few Things Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At the DOA expo in Las vegas in 1995, Don Steger was selling gray ones as well as the black ones. The factory never made any gray ones, at least not that made their way in to cars - only black. James --- Marc A Levy wrote: > Does this item exist? I have a gray interior, and > pretty sure I have a > black shift boot. > > > Paraversal@aol.com wrote: > > > > Im just looking for a few minor parts for my DMC. > If anyone has one of these > > and is willing to part with it, please contact me > personally. Parts are as > > listed below: > > > > ---Gear Shift Leather Boot (Grey) > ...willing to trade for a new Black > > leather boot? > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating > team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > > _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ message 1875 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1875 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "BRUCE BENSON" References: <7n9pn6$gkuc@eGroups.com> <007601bed92b$0e330b80$326ba2cd@sweatyeddy> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:24:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Solvents Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I wouldn't recommend Trichloroethane for cleaning anything vinyl. > Years back we used white gas to clean excess sealer and such from vinyl upholstery and paint on new Fords rolling out the door. It doesn't hurt vinyl, paint or plastic and is readily available as Coleman Lantern fuel at the hardware store,. The only thing to remember is that, like many cleaning fluids, it is highly flammable. As for Shela Shine, a doctor I'd met in Omaha saw that used in his hospital and recommended it. A friend sent me a gallon and it made the stainless look wonderful until the first rain, It left dark streaks down the sides of the DeLorean that stayed there until I washed it with a good low phosphate car wash soap. Bruce Benson ------------------------------ message 1876 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1876 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DeLorean31@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:37:40 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean and Laser Speed Detection Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/28/99 4:53:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, oehcs@flash.net writes: << The assumption that there is a relationship between vehicle speed and total accident deaths is constantly used by police to justify speed enforcement. Studies of accidents and vehicle death by DOT and the national safety council clearly show that most injuries and fatalities happen on local street at interection at speeds less than 40 mph. If police spent more time analyzing accident causes and getting dangerous intersections redesigned and fixed, there would be many less accidents and deaths. In reality, speed enforcement is just another source of revenue to local communities. ALMOST 50% of all fatalities are side impacts, speed has very little to do with this type of accident. >> First of all its not the police that are responsible for redisigning intersections. They spend countless hours analyzing accidents as well. Thirdly there are many people in some area of law enforcement on this list such as myself. I would hope the moderator would keep posts bashing certain occupations off the list as it has nothing related to DeLoreans in its content. And in this is case it is obviously an opinon and not fact. And also when DeLorean related topics are more easily terminated. Gary ------------------------------ message 1877 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1877 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: WINGD2@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:26:17 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Speeding Tickets - Etc... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If the previous thread on speeding tickets and the replies to the list were taken as "bashing" in reference to law enforcement, then I apologize for allowing them on the list. As of now this thread is finished, Marty Maier, moderator ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- View the full archives, subscribe/unsubscribe, use the group calendar at http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews Manage your subscriptions at http://eGroups.com Free e-mail groups by eGroups.com. 
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