From: eGroups Digest [dmcnews@egroups.com] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 1999 10:15 AM To: David.Swingle Subject: dmcnews digest eGroups Daily Digest: dmcnews has 40 new messages. Click here http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1776 to read them. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 1776. Murray Fisher Cleaning Wheels 1777. Murray Fisher Inermittent Clock 1778. William T Wilson Re: after market wheels [longish] 1779. Richard Strecker Re: Inermittent Clock 1780. DMC Joe Re: Left Lower Control Arm 1781. James Espey Re: Left Lower Control Arm 1782. Josh Haldeman Re: Engine Performance 1783. stephen.liggett@uc.edu help-lost the spark 1784. Martin Gutkowski Re: wheres the prototype? 1785. CBL302@aol.com Re: wheres the prototype? 1786. Mike Killebrew Re: Question About Keys: For Lee Seiler 1787. LovDMC12@aol.com Re: Engine Performance 1788. John Stiefel Re: Movies - Movies - Movies 1789. Ann & Ed Thompson Re: Left Lower Control Arm (and other "no longer 1790. Erik Geerdink delorean weight??? 1791. Mark Noeltner Re: Weight (was Engine Performance) 1792. eGroups.com Poll Results Voting Results: How would you describe a DeLorea 1793. DMC Joe Re: Engine Performance 1794. Eric Goldstein Need photographer in the bay area 1795. Murray Fisher Snow performance 1796. Robert Hlavacek Re: Engine Performance 1797. DMC Joe SOUTHEAST HOUSE CALLS 1798. John Hanley Need photographer in the bay area 1799. R. Haslewood Cool and unusual 1800. mdeluca@comtechpst.com Solvents 1801. James Espey Different Manufacturers Plate (or: weights, etc) 1802. Yocom, Shannon New Ride at Cedar Point, OH 1803. Ann & Ed Thompson Re: Need photographer in the bay area 1804. Brian Galbiati Re: Cool and unusual 1805. William T Wilson Re: Cool and unusual 1806. Steve Rice Re: Cool and unusual 1807. Murray Fisher RearView TV 1808. Michel Poulin Re: Cool and unusual 1809. DeLorean31@aol.com Re: Cool and unusual 1810. Dick Ryan Cool and Unusual 1811. LovDMC12@aol.com Autofest Nationals 1812. BRUCE BENSON Re: Left Lower Control Arm (and other "no longer 1813. ryantrent@aol.com Im looking for some info. 1814. Paraversal@aol.com Re: Left Lower Control Arm (and other "no longe 1815. J.M. Rooney DMC-12 Crash Test Video ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 1776 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1776 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Murray Fisher" Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 06:39:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Cleaning Wheels Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0047_01BED40C.F64A19A0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01BED40C.F64A19A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" I am one who really LIKES the DeLorean Wheels. It is easy to keep them sp= arkling. Just hire your grandson, like I do! I researched thoroughly and l= ike Eagle One brand. They make four versions.The Mag Cleaner is the one to= use for our wheels. I have been using it for going on three years. It is= pretty toxic so you spray it on and hose it off with clear water thoroughl= y within 30 seconds. The grit and grime just RUNS off. If anything stays= on the first try between the fins, use a toothbrush or some small brush. = Mine always look about the next thing to chrome plating. One of our other = cars is a 96 Lincoln Continental with Chrome wheels and I use a different v= ersion for that. Murray Vin 05962 Lic DMC-XII Washington State = ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01BED40C.F64A19A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252"
I am one who really LIKES the DeLorean Wheels.   It is easy = to = keep them sparkling. Just hire your grandson, like I do!  I researched= = thoroughly and like Eagle One brand.  They make four versions.The Mag = Cleaner is the one to use for our wheels.  I have been using it for go= ing = on three years.  It is pretty toxic so you spray it on and hose i= t off = with clear water thoroughly within 30 seconds.  The grit and grime jus= t = RUNS off.   If anything stays on the first try between the fins, = use a = toothbrush or some small brush.  Mine always look about the next thing= to = chrome plating.  One of our other cars is a 96 Lincoln Continenta= l = with Chrome wheels and I use a different version for that.
 
Murray Vin 05962 Lic DMC-XII
Washington State 
------=_NextPart_000_0047_01BED40C.F64A19A0-- ------------------------------ message 1777 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1777 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Murray Fisher" Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:14:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Inermittent Clock Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0050_01BED411.CAA50EE0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01BED411.CAA50EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" This Intermittent Clock solution might help someone. Minor detail but it bugged me not to have everything working. My clock wor= ked fine for a year after I got the car. It is the clock built into the co= nsole in my 81. It got so it changed time on me a lot. I have worked with= electronics most of my life, so I tried to psych it out. After trying va= rious things suggested, such as replacing various diodes here and there. I then I tried connecting it to the Cig Lighter and that didn't work. The= n I finally decided to run a hot wire direct to the battery. Still no good= . I was at my wits end. I thought, after a year of owning the car, that it did not seem to turn ove= r very fast in starting. Finally one day it did not start at all. I took = the battery to the dealer, who checked it out.....bad cell. They gave me a= new battery under warrantee, for a very small difference. When I purchase= d the car two and a half years ago, the original owner was nice enough to h= ave installed, a new heaviest duty battery in it we could find.....so who w= ould think that "new" battery could be bad....but it WAS. = I reset the clock and for 6 months now it has been running perfectly. And = the car starts quickly now! Apparently the low voltage when I started the = car would not run the clock for that period, so it was always "OFF". In m= y "other" hobby of ham radio I have run into problems created by voltage dr= op many times and am still kicking myself for not thinking of it sooner. = ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01BED411.CAA50EE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252"
This Intermittent Clock solution might help someone.
 
Minor detail but it bugged me not to have everything working.  My= = clock worked fine for a year after I got the car.  It is the clock bui= lt = into the console in my 81.   It got so it changed time on me a lo= t. I = have worked with electronics most of my life, so I tried to psych it = out.   After trying various things suggested, such as replacing = various diodes here and there.
I then I tried connecting it to the Cig Lighter and that didn't = work.   Then I finally decided to run a hot wire direct to the = battery.  Still no good.  I was at my wits end.
 
I thought, after a year of owning the car, that it did not seem to tur= n = over very fast in starting.  Finally one day it did not start at all.&= nbsp; = I took the battery to the dealer, who checked it out.....bad cell.&nbs= p; = They gave me a new battery under warrantee, for a very small = difference.  When I purchased the car two and a half years ago, t= he = original owner was nice enough to have installed, a new heaviest duty = battery in it we could find.....so who would think that "new" battery could= = be bad....but it WAS. 
 
I reset the clock and for 6 months now it has been running perfectly.&= nbsp; = And the car starts quickly now!  Apparently the low voltage when I sta= rted = the car would not run the clock for that period, so it was always = "OFF".   In my "other" hobby of ham radio I have run into problem= s = created by voltage drop many times and am still kicking myself for not thin= king = of it sooner.
 
 
   
------=_NextPart_000_0050_01BED411.CAA50EE0-- ------------------------------ message 1778 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1778 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:39:03 -0400 (EDT) From: William T Wilson In-Reply-To: <3797C0D7.34F26360@ccomm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: after market wheels [longish] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Brian Galbiati wrote: > keep in mind that when you change the wheel size you are also throwing > off your speedometer reading as well. This is not necessarily the case. The speedometer reading (and the handling; don't forget that) will only be adversely affected if the tire diameter changes. If you put on a larger wheel, you simply put on a lower profile tire to compensate. For example the DeLorean stock front wheel has 195/60R14 size tires, which have a diameter of 590mm (if my math is right!) You could, for example, get 205/50R15 tires which have a diameter of 586mm - a difference in size of less than 1%, even though the wheel is 1" larger. (Background info: Tires are measured www/ppRdd where "www" is the width in millimeters; "pp" is the profile, or ratio of sidewall height to tire width; and "dd" is the diameter of the wheel. Using this information you can compute a proper size tire for almost any wheel.) ------------------------------ message 1779 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1779 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:07:55 -0400 From: Richard Strecker MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <005301bed44c$8bd752a0$e6b935cf@murrayf> Subject: [DML] Re: Inermittent Clock Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit An alternative is to put an electrolytic capacitor across the power leads going to the clock. This will store enough voltage to carry the clock through the momentary voltage dips experienced during starting. The capacitor I used is 100mfd @ 50VDC. It has been working fine for the past year. Richard ------------------------------ message 1780 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1780 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:14:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Left Lower Control Arm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Claude, The upper control arm 106940 are priced between 118.24 and 144.00. The lower (link) control arms 105177 are no longer available. We have seen good ones priced at $250. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: CBL302@aol.com > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Re: Left Lower Control Arm > Date: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 10:40 PM > > In a message dated 7/21/99 10:11:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > martin.is@connect-2.co.uk writes: > > << To make a long story short , I'm trying to run down a used/rebuilt lower > > left control arm. Currently, the only one that we've been able to find is > > very pricey ($$$$). >> > > I was just wondering what the going price was for a drivers side lower > control arm and upper A arm each.I have both to sell but I DO NOT want to be > ripped off by bottom fishers,they has 9,000 original miles,and are in mint > shape,also have spindle. > for both sides. > > Claude > Vin#000570 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > ------------------------------ message 1781 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1781 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <19990722152637.NEOE25099@delorean> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:31:34 -0500 From: James Espey Subject: [DML] Re: Left Lower Control Arm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe - If you can get me one (or ten) at that $250 price, please let me know. I have eyt to see a good one at less than $500. James Espey DeLorean Motor Company Houston, Texas 281/568-9573 800/USA-DMC1 http://www.usadmc.com At 11:14 PM -0500 7/21/99, DMC Joe wrote: >Claude, >The upper control arm 106940 are priced between 118.24 and 144.00. The >lower (link) control arms 105177 are no longer available. We have seen good >ones priced at $250. > >DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / >Web Site: > ------------------------------ message 1782 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1782 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:03:50 -0400 From: Josh Haldeman MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19990721222333.PKIM5731@delorean> Subject: [DML] Re: Engine Performance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, If this is the case then why does my door jamb manufacturers plate tell me that the gross weight of the car is 3180 lbs? Is it wrong, or have they just taken a 468 lb driver into account? Just curious, Josh VIN 5102 DMC Joe wrote: > The factory specified weight for the DeLorean with a full tank of gas is > 2,712 pounds (1232.73 kg). > > DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / > Web Site: ------------------------------ message 1783 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1783 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:45:34 -0700 From: stephen.liggett@uc.edu Subject: [DML] help-lost the spark Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found a nice D that had been sitting for 2 years. Using a 200 amp charger/starter and the old battery I got it to start when I sprayed some starter fluid in the air intake. So, I know that it had spark then. However, it then quit starting and I have checked for a high voltage spark at the coil and now don't get one. Using an ohm meter I have evidence that the problem is in the distibutor--as per pages m:01:03 and m:01:04 of the workshop manual. I wonder if I blew the pick-up coil or diode . How hard is it to replace? I'm not sure that I have it in me to take out the distibutor. Steve Liggett New D owner (#3076) ------------------------------ message 1784 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1784 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:20:01 +0100 From: Martin Gutkowski MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <379647E4.6354A1F0@connect-2.co.uk> <37970C1B.ADB0AD91@dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: [DML] Re: wheres the prototype? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In Simon's drawer :o) I will ask him at the Coys festival next week. Best Wishes, Martin Marc A Levy wrote: > Where can the pictures be found now? > ------------------------------ message 1785 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1785 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: CBL302@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:22:37 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: wheres the prototype? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/22/99 8:49:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com writes: << Where can the pictures be found now? >> Go to Http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk/ then hit enter, then hit sample newspaper there you will see some pics of Bill Collins prototype,I must caution you the car is in very sorry shape, for you people who hate to see such a historic Delorean just wasting away. Claude vin#000570 ------------------------------ message 1786 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1786 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Mike Killebrew" Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:27:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Question About Keys: For Lee Seiler Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just got new keys for DeLorean, they work. British Leyland makes them for Range Rovers. Standard lock shop info. ---------- From: dcsj@excite.com[SMTP:dcsj@excite.com] Reply To: dmcnews@egroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 7:30 PM To: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Question About Keys: For Lee Seiler I'm sorry for having to use the DML for this but I've run into a problem getting a response from you. Back during the memorial day weekend you posted on the DML that you had shipped all your key backorders and that they would now be avaliable thru the major parts suppliers. I am one of the backorder customers and I never did receive my order. So, I called PJ Grady's and asked them if they had any of your new keys yet . They said it was going to be a couple of months before they received any ,do to a change in the manufacturing process. Could you Please give me and the List a current update? Thanks, Dennis Again, I'm sorry for using the list for this purpose. _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1787 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1787 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: LovDMC12@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:35:54 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Engine Performance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Josh, It's curious that your manumafacturer's plate says that. Mine lists the car's weight as 2712. Did the weight change with model years? Mine is an '81. Brian VIN 1597 ------------------------------ message 1788 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1788 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "John Stiefel" Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:38:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Movies - Movies - Movies Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just to refresh those interested, a while back i started a simple DeLorean sightings page. It has been visited by a long list of people who have sighted d's everywhere from movies, to steetcorners. The address is: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/2127/ hope this helps Jack Stiefel NY Lic. 1981 DMC Vin 3461 -----Original Message----- From: raddad@cmn.net To: dmcnews@egroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 4:16 PM Subject: [DML] Movies - Movies - Movies >It seems the most recent post regarding the DeLorean in a movie has opened >the response flood gate. Sightings of a DeLorean in the Wedding Singer, >the Simpsons, etc., etc., have been reported here numerous times before. > >Unless there is really something new and significant to the list as a >whole, I'll not post any more movie trivia. > >Dick Ryan >Moderator > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > ------------------------------ message 1789 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1789 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:47:43 -0400 From: Ann & Ed Thompson MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: [DML] Re: Left Lower Control Arm (and other "no longer available" parts) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just how many of these expensive, rare, and "no longer available" parts are there on the DeLorean. The more I hear and read about this the more I'm beginning to think that a "good driver DeLorean", say between $10K and $15K, is worth far more being parted out. Body panels, doors, glass, and lower control arms alone would probably bring $10K selling them one at a time. James, do you have any idea how many parts listed in the DeLorean factory parts manual are "no longer available"? Being in the DeLorean parts business I thought you might have an estimate. I know that for much older and long obsolete antique cars in concours condition most parts are nearly non-existent. If needed, replacements parts of all kinds have to be made. That's why some of these cars are worth hundreds of thousands of dollars and even millions. Do you have any idea what it would cost to have a lower control arm made for a DeLorean? $500 might pay for a construction drawing. For a one-off I would guess at least several thousand dollars. Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982) Midlothian, VA > James Espey wrote: > > If you can get me one (or ten) at that $250 price, please let me know. I > have yet to see a good one at less than $500. > > > DMC Joe wrote: > > > > The lower (link) control arms 105177 are no longer available. ------------------------------ message 1790 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1790 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Erik Geerdink" Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:01:15 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] delorean weight??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit whats up with all these different numbers?? open your drivers side door and look at the weight. it clearly says 3180 lbs. now, why does everybody have a different number here? is the delorean actually less in weight that what i was thinking? i wish i would have known that when i registard my D. has anybody ever gone to a weight station with a full tank of gas and checked how much it weighs? erik geerdink "You built a time machine...out of a DELOREAN?!" "The way i see it...if you're going to build a time machine, why not do it with some STYLE!!" vin # 4512 plate: EGGS D _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ ------------------------------ message 1791 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1791 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:27:07 -0500 From: Mark Noeltner In-Reply-To: <37974EF6.A85D6AA1@osu.edu> References: <19990721222333.PKIM5731@delorean> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Weight (was Engine Performance) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "gross" weight is the total weight of the vehicle with the maximum load recommended by the manufacturer. Since this was a 2-seater. the factory probably figured two 200 lb. people and 68 pounds of luggage or some other combination adding up to that amount. Look at the door plate of a pickup truck sometime. A lot of the full size trucks will have really LARGE gross vehicle weights since they are designed to haul stuff around. Mark N VIN 6820 > If this is the case then why does my door jamb manufacturers plate tell me that the gross >weight of the car is 3180 lbs? Is it wrong, or have they just taken a 468 lb driver into >account? > >> The factory specified weight for the DeLorean with a full tank of gas is >> 2,712 pounds (1232.73 kg). ------------------------------ message 1792 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1792 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:16:03 -0700 From: "eGroups.com Poll Results" Subject: [DML] Voting Results: How would you describe a DeLorean's performance in the snow? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here are the results of the vote: 1. Excellent 1 2. Good 3 3. Below Average 4 4. Poor 4 5. Average 5 ----- See the results at http://www.egroups.com/vote?vid=dmcnews ------------------------------ message 1793 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1793 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:21:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Engine Performance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Josh, The GVW is the weight of the car plus (payload) what the manufacturer considers as the maximum additional weight load i.e.: passengers, luggage, etc. (GVW minus curb weight equals payload) Therefore the 468 pounds would mean 2 passengers at 200 lb. and 68 lb. of luggage. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: Josh Haldeman > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Re: Engine Performance > Date: Thursday, July 22, 1999 1:03 PM > > Okay, > If this is the case then why does my door jamb manufacturers plate tell me that the gross > weight of the car is 3180 lbs? Is it wrong, or have they just taken a 468 lb driver into > account? > Just curious, > Josh > VIN 5102 > > DMC Joe wrote: > > > The factory specified weight for the DeLorean with a full tank of gas is > > 2,712 pounds (1232.73 kg). > > > > DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / > > Web Site: > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > ------------------------------ message 1794 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1794 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Eric Goldstein" Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 21:17:21 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Need photographer in the bay area Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I will be in the Bay Area (north) next month for ten days with my DeLorean and am hoping to find a DML'er with some photography experience to take some good photos of the car while I am in town. I prefer a DML'er for this task as I figure they would be familiar enough with the car and the area to know where to go and make maximum effective use of the car and the time. If after we talk (and I check you out) I may just give you the keys and say "go" as I will probably be in meetings a lot. Please email me directly... Eric _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ message 1795 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1795 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Murray Fisher" Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:56:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Snow performance Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CA_01BED47C.5793F4A0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_00CA_01BED47C.5793F4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" I know a lot drive their D's in the snow, as they are daily drivers. Perso= nally we have little here (Northwest) but when we DO have snow, I leave the= D in the garage. (I am more afraid of the other guy). However I often wo= ndered how it would be, as I have had 46 cars in my life (age 78) and have = had every configuration. Four wheel drive, front wheel drive, rear engines= ...mid engine..you name it. My old 36 Cord Front wheel drive was terrible= in the snow. I had a 3 cylinder DKW Front wheel drive that was pretty li= ght and it seemed to do fairly well. I had several little Fiats...all rea= r engine and rear wheel drive.. They were excellent in the snow too. I s= till have a mint 65 Corvair, which incidentally is another six cylinder rea= r engined car (but there the similarity ends). It is the best car we have = ever had for ice and snow....that rear engine over the rear wheels and with= automatic just can't be beat. We keep it partly because my wife says that= is her winter car and she wont drive anything else in snow or ice. I thin= k the DeLorean with its wide tires might tend to skate more.....I only have= all season tires on the Corvair and never have needed chains in the deepes= t snow. For what its worth department. Murray Vin: 05962 Lic: DMC-XII Washington State = ------=_NextPart_000_00CA_01BED47C.5793F4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252"
I know a lot drive their D's in the snow, as they are daily = drivers.  Personally we have little here (Northwest) but when we DO = have snow, I leave the D in the garage.  (I am more afraid of the= = other guy).  However I often wondered how it would be, as I have had 4= 6 = cars in my life (age 78) and have had every configuration.  = Four = wheel drive, front wheel drive, rear engines...mid engine..you name = it.   My old 36 Cord Front wheel drive was terrible in the = snow.   I had a 3 cylinder DKW Front wheel drive that was pr= etty = light and it seemed to do fairly well.   I had several little = Fiats...all rear engine and rear wheel drive..  They were excellent in= the = snow too.  I still have a mint 65 Corvair, which incidentally is anot= her = six cylinder rear engined car (but there the similarity ends).  I= t is = the best car we have ever had for ice and snow....that rear engine over the= rear = wheels and with automatic just can't be beat.  We keep it partly = because my wife says that is her winter car and she wont drive anything els= e in = snow or ice.  I think the DeLorean with its wide tires might tend to s= kate = more.....I only have all season tires on the Corvair and never have needed = chains in the deepest snow.
 
For what its worth department.
 
Murray Vin: 05962 Lic: DMC-XII
Washington State    
 
------=_NextPart_000_00CA_01BED47C.5793F4A0-- ------------------------------ message 1796 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1796 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:09:03 -0400 From: Robert Hlavacek MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <01BED36C.EDBD7DE0@wh2-163.eclipse.net> Subject: [DML] Re: Engine Performance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, but 133 mph feels like 95. That's fast! Gerald Deutsch wrote: > Sure, I'll elaborate.... It's slow. Not VERY slow, but it is slow. > > Oh well... ---Dan > > ---------- > From: ryan arsenault[SMTP:rybeth@flash.net] > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 9:26 PM > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Engine Performance > > Hi list. I know a DeLorean only has 130 horses. It seems that it has a > reputation of being a slow car. Would anyone care to elaborate on this > and perhaps dispel the popular belief? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Part 1.2 Type: application/ms-tnef > Encoding: base64 ------------------------------ message 1797 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1797 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:37:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] SOUTHEAST HOUSE CALLS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We would like to notify all of the DeLorean owners in South Carolina, North Carolina, and Tennessee that my son Alan and I will be traveling through your area July 29 through August 3. We are scheduled to service cars in several cities in all three states. During our House Call trip we would love to meet and chat with owners along the way. "We accept diner invitations that include cheer, beer and of course lots of DeLorean talk". Check out the HOUSE CALL page at our web-site for the latest information on the cities and dates you might find us. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / ------------------------------ message 1798 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1798 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 05:18:39 -0400 From: John Hanley <106165.1407@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Need photographer in the bay area Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message text written by INTERNET:dmcnews@egroups.com >If after = we talk (and I check you out) I may just give you the keys and say "go" a= s I = will probably be in meetings a lot.< A very very brave man, if I was offered your keys I would hand them back,= you would be one very sad puppy if anyone hit it while you was in meeting= s. My son recently visited Arizona with me and drove my car without me being= present my heart was in my mouth the whole time he was out. However it ha= d to happen sometime, the next traumatic experience will be when dauther wants to do the same. Regards John Hanley Vin 16369 ------------------------------ message 1799 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1799 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 20:45:45 +1000 From: "R. Haslewood" Subject: [DML] Cool and unusual Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was browsing the DOA website when I came across this pic in the "Showcase" section. A French man has made a cool modification to his DeLorean - a rear-vision system consisting of a surveillance camera mounted on the parcel shelf, and a small black & white monitor on the dash above the radio. I know of a place that does "Knight Rider" conversions to Trans Ams, and they have two monitors (one colour, and the other b/w) built into the dash, but this rear-vision system is a neat idea for any car :-) the pic is at: http://www.delorean-owners.org/new/images/show/dom991d.jpg R. Haslewood, Sydney Australia www.zip.com.au/~delorean/ VIN 10599 UIN 4316376 ------------------------------ message 1800 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1800 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 06:12:06 -0700 From: mdeluca@comtechpst.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Solvents Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was cleaning the interior vinyl portions of my corvette last night and used Tricloroethane (also referred to as T 1.1.1. I think , you can buy it at Home Depot as a carpet / spot remover and I think it goes by the brand name Afta) to remove some spots that soap and water / Fantastic etc. wouldn't clean. It worked great, may be even too good ( I think it will take the paint right off the vinyly if you're not careful). This is a nasty solvent! Probably causes liver damage and cancer and I believe it desolves some types of plastics ect=85 I'm not recommending that anyone use this but with all the talk about Acetone and MEK I would like to know if this solvent is little better to use on vinyl when you need to use a very strong solvent degreaser? Mike D. Vin 3113 NY Lic DLORIANN ------------------------------ message 1801 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1801 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:22:02 -0500 From: James Espey Subject: [DML] Different Manufacturers Plate (or: weights, etc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There were two different manufacturers plates used. The early one is part no. 105196 and has a GVW of 3180, 1244 front and 1936 rear. The later one is part no. 110573 and has a GVW of 3244, 1286 front and 1958 rear. Where is the cutoff? I haven't discovered that yet, though I would imagine it to be at the 81/82 model year. All the 82/83's I have seen have the later, while all the 81's I have seen have the early one. Why the change of 64 pounds? James Espey DeLorean Motor Company Houston, Texas 281/568-9573 800/USA-DMC1 http://www.usadmc.com ------------------------------ message 1802 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1802 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Yocom, Shannon" Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:54:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] New Ride at Cedar Point, OH Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BED512.E7DA9650" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------_=_NextPart_001_01BED512.E7DA9650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" content-type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" DML'rs A tiny tidbit for stainless steel fans: The new roller coaster at Cedar Point will have stainless steel coaches. If you want to check it out here's the link, http://www.cedarpoint.com/thrill/millennium/mffacts.htm Shannon VIN# not yet! ------_=_NextPart_001_01BED512.E7DA9650 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1252" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/html; charset="windows-1252" New Ride at Cedar Point, OH

DML'rs
  A tiny tidbit for stainless steel fans:
The new roller coaster at Cedar Point will have st= ainless steel coaches.
If you want to check it out here's the link, http://www.= cedarpoint.com/thrill/millennium/mffacts.htm

Shannon
VIN# not yet!

------_=_NextPart_001_01BED512.E7DA9650-- ------------------------------ message 1803 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1803 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 07:13:52 -0400 From: Ann & Ed Thompson MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19990723011721.90897.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Need photographer in the bay area Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What Bay? > Eric Goldstein wrote: > > I will be in the Bay Area (north) next month for ten days with my DeLorean > and am hoping to find a DML'er with some photography experience to take some > good photos of the car while I am in town. ------------------------------ message 1804 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1804 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:15:51 -0400 From: "Brian Galbiati" MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1.5.4.32.19990723104545.006c8170@zip.com.au> Subject: [DML] Re: Cool and unusual Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit seems pretty cool, although it is illegal to have any type of television in view of the driver, i am not sure if it is because of distraction or because of the difference in light levels, when at night "R. Haslewood" wrote: > I was browsing the DOA website when I came across this pic in the "Showcase" > section. A French man has made a cool modification to his DeLorean - a > rear-vision system consisting of a surveillance camera mounted on the parcel > shelf, and a small black & white monitor on the dash above the radio. I know > of a place that does "Knight Rider" conversions to Trans Ams, and they have > two monitors (one colour, and the other b/w) built into the dash, but this > rear-vision system is a neat idea for any car :-) > > the pic is at: > > http://www.delorean-owners.org/new/images/show/dom991d.jpg > > R. Haslewood, > Sydney Australia > www.zip.com.au/~delorean/ > VIN 10599 > UIN 4316376 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1805 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1805 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:34:04 -0400 (EDT) From: William T Wilson In-Reply-To: <3799E6B6.6A3A5AE@ccomm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Cool and unusual Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 24 Jul 1999, Brian Galbiati wrote: > seems pretty cool, although it is illegal to have any type of > television in view of the driver, i am not sure if it is because of > distraction or because of the difference in light levels, when at It is actually not quite like that. There are a number of aftermarket stereo head units you can get which include a video display. It is simply illegal to use these to display a television image, such as a TV station or VCR tape. You can use them for a GPS navigation system (the most common use), a computer readout (say, to supplement the instrument panel) or some other information purpose I believe the rationale is to keep the driver from being distracted. ------------------------------ message 1806 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1806 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Steve Rice" References: <1.5.4.32.19990723104545.006c8170@zip.com.au> <3799E6B6.6A3A5AE@ccomm.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:33:59 -0500 Subject: [DML] Re: Cool and unusual Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I do not believe this type of setup would be illegal. A few years back (beggining of 90's) I saw a thing on the news about cars of the future. And they were showing how rearview mirrors could be replaced with cameras. I don't see how this would be illegal, this setup would be more of a monitor than a TV. Television is illegal in the front seat only, and it is because it distracts the driver. Look at these new mini vans that are coming out. They are building them with TV and VCR. Just my 2 cents Steve Rice ------------------------------ message 1807 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1807 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Murray Fisher" Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:25:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] RearView TV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0061_01BED4F5.BABA4C40" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01BED4F5.BABA4C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" We have a rear view television setup on our motorhome. It IS visible from = the drivers seat of course. I installed the camera and cabling myself as I= wanted a color monitor and use the dash mounted regular (13") TV. With a = motorhome, the main idea is to see the very rear bumper to see WHO you are = backing over, so it has a wide angle lense. I have a small (5 inch) color = TV in a small addition to the DeLorean above the center dash panel. I buil= t the unit with upholstery, including the French stitching of the seams to = match the DeLorean dash. It is easily removable however. I hope to some = day install a Rear View camera with it. I have experimented with it howeve= r using my Sony Camcorder just in the driveway and it seems to work fine. The regulations, in our state (Washington) at least, require that any Visib= le from the drivers seat TV, be disabled automatically when you turn the ig= nition on, with the motorhome RV television, this comes on when you put th= e rig in reverse. I have bypassed this switch so I can run it manually. I= have an automatic regulator on this tho which precludes me using it in the= TV mode while driving...my wife would kill me! = I once saw a custom Porsche in a Robbs Report magazine, which happened to b= e in a city we were visiting. I went to see it and the owner told me all a= bout its installation....his had a camera (two) faired into both sides at t= he rear which were well protected and accessible for servicing...it had two= side by side monitors in the dash mounted fairly high so they were easily = visible. Just some thoughts and ideas for what they are worth! = ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01BED4F5.BABA4C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252"
We have a rear view television setup on our motorhome.  It IS vis= ible = from the drivers seat of course.  I installed the camera and cabling m= yself = as I wanted a color monitor and use the dash mounted regular (13") TV. = ; = With a motorhome, the main idea is to see the very rear bumper to see WHO y= ou = are backing over, so it has a wide angle lense.  I have a small (5 inc= h) = color TV in a small addition to the DeLorean above the center dash panel.&n= bsp; = I built the unit with upholstery, including the French stitching of the sea= ms to = match the DeLorean dash.  It is easily removable however.   = I = hope to some day install a Rear View camera with it.  I have experimen= ted = with it however using my Sony Camcorder just in the driveway and it seems t= o = work fine.
 
The regulations, in our state (Washington) at least, require that = ;any = Visible from the drivers seat TV, be disabled automatically when you t= urn = the ignition on,  with the motorhome RV television, this comes on when= you = put the rig in reverse.  I have bypassed this switch so I can run it = manually.  I have an automatic regulator on this tho which precludes m= e = using it in the TV mode while driving...my wife would kill me!   =
 
I once saw a custom Porsche in a Robbs Report magazine, which happened= to = be in a city we were visiting.  I went to see it and the owner told me= all = about its installation....his had a camera (two) faired into both side= s at = the rear which were well protected and accessible for servicing...it had tw= o = side by side monitors in the dash mounted fairly high so they were eas= ily = visible.
 
Just some thoughts and ideas for what they are worth!   = ; =
------=_NextPart_000_0061_01BED4F5.BABA4C40-- ------------------------------ message 1808 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1808 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:46:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Michel Poulin In-Reply-To: <3799E6B6.6A3A5AE@ccomm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Cool and unusual Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Almost all longer RV's have the same technology. This isn't a tv for watching shows on, it's for backing up and keeping an eye on what's behind you. The better units can be set to only turn on when you put the car in reverse (relay atached to the reverses safety switch). THey also useually have a screen over the tube with marks on it to show you where your wheels and the side of your vehicle will line up while you are backing up. Putting one of these units in a DeLorean would be a GREAT idea thanks to it's poor rear visibility. -=mike=- backing 702 out of the driveway very carefully *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* | http://www.poulincomm.com | | http://www.WWJP.com | *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* On Sat, 24 Jul 1999, Brian Galbiati wrote: > seems pretty cool, although it is illegal to have any type of television in view of the > driver, i am not sure if it is because of distraction or because of the difference in light > levels, when at night > > "R. Haslewood" wrote: > > rear-vision system consisting of a surveillance camera mounted on the parcel > > shelf, and a small black & white monitor on the dash above the radio. I know ------------------------------ message 1809 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1809 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DeLorean31@aol.com Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:02:59 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Cool and unusual Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/23/99 12:25:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, briang@ccomm.com writes: << seems pretty cool, although it is illegal to have any type of television in view of the driver, i am not sure if it is because of distraction or because of the difference in light levels, when at night >> Actually it is legal to have a monitor that shows the rear view as many large motor homes have them for rear view visibility. Of course watching Back To The Future or aany other show would be illegal Gary ------------------------------ message 1810 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1810 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:28:42 -0700 From: raddad@cmn.net (Dick Ryan) Subject: [DML] Cool and Unusual Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unless something NEW and unusual is posted regarding Cool and Unusual, this thread will close very shortly. Dick Ryan Moderator of the Week ------------------------------ message 1811 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1811 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: LovDMC12@aol.com Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 17:14:35 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Autofest Nationals Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just wanted to let everyone know about a great car event that'll take place October 1-3 in Evansville, Indiana. It's the Club MCC Autofest National '99. I went last year and had a blast, and there were 6 DeLoreans there. This is a great opportunity to meet other owners as well as see some awesome cars. The event is put on by the folks that produce "My Classic Car" which airs on TNN on Saturday and Sunday afternoons. They're really hyping it up this year adding Carlisle and Kruse Inc. to the list of sponsors. I got my notice about the show yesterday, and it says space is limited. Check out their website at www.myclassiccar.com I hope to see lots of you there. Brian VIN 1597 ------------------------------ message 1812 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1812 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "BRUCE BENSON" References: <3797836F.4E5DE321@erols.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:03:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Left Lower Control Arm (and other "no longer available" parts) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do you have any idea what it > would cost to have a lower control arm made for a DeLorean? $500 might > Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982) Several years ago someone was selling custom forged aluminum lower control arms for the DeLorean. I belive the price at the time was about $900 per pair, minus ball joints. If I remember right, the old DeLorean Club of America was selling them. I know that Don Steger of the DeLorean Motor Center bought the remaining items that defunct club had. He also has done some things with brakes and other suspension items. on his own. He might be able to offer some insight if someone is really interested. Bruce Benson ------------------------------ message 1813 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1813 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:28:52 -0700 From: ryantrent@aol.com Subject: [DML] Im looking for some info. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. I was wondering if anyone had information on what John DeLorean is doing right now, I heard he started DMC back up and was working on a new car, But that was a while ago. Just E-mail me.(ryantrent@aol.com) Thanks ------------------------------ message 1814 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1814 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Paraversal@aol.com Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 22:45:11 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Left Lower Control Arm (and other "no longer available" parts) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, Although I have been a DeLorean fan since the 1980s, I didn't become a part=20 of the "DeLorean Community" (i.e., a reader of this list, and other DeLorean=20 publications) until 1995. On occasion through the years, I would hear a=20 mention of the DeLorean Club of America that apparently became defunct=20 sometime in the past. Ive seen stainless steel label kits, Guiguaro emblems,=20 and other DMC products from this old group, however I have never heard=20 anything else about them. When did they shut down operations?=85and why? Im=20 just very intrigued. Thanks, Justin ------------------------------ message 1815 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1815 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "J.M. Rooney" Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 02:40:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DMC-12 Crash Test Video Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01BED57D.E549CD40" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BED57D.E549CD40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" If anyone is interested in obtaining a copy of the Original DOT Crash Tests= performed back in 1981, e-mail me privately at = I have been able to track down the final source for these films including t= he crash test data for the cars involved. If I can get enough people intere= sted, I will be able to get everyone copies (both film and paper reports). = -Robert ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BED57D.E549CD40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"

If anyone is interested in obtaining a copy of the Origin= al DOT = Crash Tests performed back in 1981, e-mail me privately at

I have been able to track down the final source for these= films = including the crash test data for the cars involved. If I can get enough pe= ople = interested, I will be able to get everyone copies (both film and paper repo= rts). =

-Robert

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