From: eGroups Digest [dmcnews@egroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 7:44 AM To: David.Swingle Subject: dmcnews digest eGroups Daily Digest: dmcnews has 31 new messages. Click here http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1550 to read them. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 1550. Rodger I. Vannatter [DML] Re: Car Show in Lavallette NJ 1551. David Sontos [DML] Front Wheel Camber Adjustment 1552. rapparivarat@erols.com [DML] Re: Problem Starting After Storage 1553. Michel Poulin [DML] Re: Delorean patents 1554. jzd_88mph@yahoo.com [DML] Re: DeLorean VIN Speculations (was: DMCs fo 1555. jtrealty@webspan.net [DML] Re: transmission 1556. delorean502@excite.com [DML] fuel accumulator 1557. delorean502@excite.com [DML] DMC Model 1558. raynet@home.net [DML] Looking for Parts 1559. Gerald Deutsch [DML] Re: Car Show in Lavallette NJ 1560. Marc A Levy [DML] Re: Delorean patents 1561. Marc A Levy [DML] Re: cheap delorean 1562. Robert Hlavacek [DML] Re: Delorean patents 1563. DMC Joe [DML] Re: FP dome nut... doh! 1564. William F. Lane [DML] Re: Troubleshooting Diagnostic Chart, Orgin 1565. Gus Schlachter [DML] Fanzilla for sale 1566. Gussob@aol.com [DML] "Weird Windows" on my DeLorean handout 1567. James Espey [DML] Re: Delorean patents 1568. BRUCE BENSON [DML] No Subject 1569. DeLorean31@aol.com [DML] Re: Car Show in Lavallette NJ 1570. jordang@wf.quik.com [DML] Re: No power to pass 1571. dcsj@excite.com [DML] Expo 99 1572. DMC Joe [DML] Re: Front Wheel Camber Adjustment 1573. DMC Joe [DML] Re: fuel accumulator 1574. DMC Joe [DML] Re: transmission 1575. marge.lentzen@eh.doe.gov [DML] Re: "Weird Windows" on my DeLorean handout 1576. jordang@wf.quik.com [DML] Re: Exhaust smells like gasoline? 1577. Michael Babb [DML] Re: ] oil pressure problem 1578. marge.lentzen@eh.doe.gov [DML] Re: DeLorean VIN Speculations (was: DMCs fo 1579. Iznodmad@aol.com [DML] Re: DeLorean VIN Speculations (zero-numbere 1580. DOUG T VENNER [DML] Re: Car Show in Lavallette NJ ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 1550 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1550 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Rodger I. Vannatter" Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:47:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Car Show in Lavallette NJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit what's the email address??? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1551 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1551 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:41:11 -0400 From: David Sontos MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Front Wheel Camber Adjustment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How do I adjust my front wheel camber? Dave VIN 02573 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1552 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1552 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:08:11 -0700 From: rapparivarat@erols.com In-Reply-To: <01BECBB3.08379F00@P688165CINCFSGE> Subject: [DML] Re: Problem Starting After Storage Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > My DMC has been sitting idle for approx. 16 months and I wanted to start > driving it again. However, my DMC is not willing to cooperate. It will > not start I went through this exercise a few months ago. First, start at the fuel tank. Then work you way along the fuel path to the engine checking out components as you go. Here are the results of my experience. The gas in the tank was mush. The fuel pump was mush. The sender unit was mush. If you find mush anywhere in the fuel system, chances are there is mush everywhere. Corrective action: The gas tank was removed and professionally steam cleaned. The fuel pump, the sender unit, and all associated small parts were replaced including the large rubber boot at the mouth of the fuel tank. Next, the filter and all rubber lines were replaced. All steel lines were purged. Then the fuel distributor was dismantled and thoroughly cleaned. Finally all six injectors were replaced. Guess what? She runs like a top now. That's all you have to do! (You might have to wait until payday. The aforementioned fix ain't cheap.) Regards, Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982), Midlothian, VA ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1553 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1553 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:25:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Michel Poulin In-Reply-To: <931831413.20281.932@excite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean patents Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been reading through the DeLorean patents (Of which there are 140 referances from 1974 till 1999) and looked at number D306,274. This may be why the firestar 500 isn't going to be the next DeLorean... It looks like Ferrari picked that one up in '87 -=mike=- *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* | http://www.poulincomm.com | | http://www.WWJP.com | *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1554 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1554 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:28:15 -0700 From: jzd_88mph@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <7mc8n4$tahv@eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean VIN Speculations (was: DMCs for sale) - LONG Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear John and all DML'ers, I know I'm going to get flamed for what I am about to say, but I hope the ToM's let me post this as I accept full respondiblity for it. What ever the "final" count for the VIN's is, we must subtract 500 from it. The reason I say this is because where sent to reporters. The reporters claimed the DeLorean was "a worthless piece of junk that would be best left in the garbage can" . Naturally JZD was mad at this and talked to my friend about ways to sqaush these storys. Finally several storys where made up ranging from the first 500 cars where given to the government to be crash tested and destroyed to they where sold to the Arabs to be destroyed. Whatever the story, the cars where always destroyed. But this was all make believe because the cars didnt exist. JZD told reporters that the "bugs" where worked out with the demise of the 500 cars. My friend has credability because he recently sent a 300 VIN to Germany to be sold. The DMC Wannabe 3.) Also what would its VIN be? Prior to #00500 is my guess. Or > somewhere between 00502 and 00614 (00670? what was the number?? I dont > have the page in front of me right now) which brings up... > > 4.) Where is #00501?? never heard mention of it before anywhere. > > 5.)how many of the 'testing cars' are known to still be around?? I > have knowledge of 500, 502, 514, and 570 (owned by a gentleman also on > the DML -would you care to shed light on the subject since you own one > of these in speculation?). In the DW article accompianing the picture, it talks about 3 cars of > the 150 or so crash test cars were the only one's known to survive. > I'll be damned if I can't remember those VIN numbers, but I do know 2 > were of the 500's and one in the 600's. (570 was not one of them) What ever happened to the 'black cars' made from fiberglass? I came > to understand they were later dismantled, but there has got to be a > picture, or story on them somewhere on them. ANYONE?? Were they given > actual VIN's (possibly explaing why the production cars started at > #00500?) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1555 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1555 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:06:01 -0700 From: jtrealty@webspan.net In-Reply-To: <19990708215509.15060.rocketmail@web1004.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: [DML] Re: transmission Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <19990708215509.15060.rocketmai-@web1004.mail.yahoo.com> wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=1495 > hello > Im a 16 year old delorean owner im getting desperate on getting a > transmission for my delorean that i might have to use a different one. > Does any one recommend any and also is the any delorean owner in lake > Elsinore > > efren > vin#16072 > > you didn't say manual or auto. if auto call 201-659-1680 dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1556 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1556 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:00:02 -0700 From: delorean502@excite.com Subject: [DML] fuel accumulator Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit how hard is it to install a new fuel accumulator? my D runs fine, but when i try to start it up after driving it, it take a couple tries to get it going. other than that it has no problem. i dont want to give deloreans a bad name by not starting. while i'm at it, does anybody have a fuel accumulator for sale or know of a place to get one? i know DMC Houston has them, does anybody else? thanks for the help erik ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1557 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1557 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:57:35 -0700 From: delorean502@excite.com Subject: [DML] DMC Model Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi, I'm trying to sell my delorean model kit. its going for $150. first come first serve. thanks erik ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1558 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1558 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:53:42 -0700 From: raynet@home.net Subject: [DML] Looking for Parts Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings all. I know some of you have a stack of parts that you'd love to get rid of so I hope to give you the chance. I am looking for a list of various items for my D. Please email me privately if you have what I'm looking for Thanks... And now for the list... Center T and back middle headliner (Preferable the P.J Grady Grey replacement ones) Clutch pedal rubber covering Stick shift leather boot Black Glovebox lid /w Latch Black Binnacle Dome Lights (front and rear with clean contacts) Black Leather Seats (in good condition) Driver and Passanger Door Wiring Harness Passanger Door Window Track /w gears (I don't need a motor just the track and gears) Passangers side front running lamp assembly Top and bottom outer door seals, both driver and passanger Well thats my list for now. Thanks in advance Raymond McKay Network Administrator Funnybone Interactive ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1559 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1559 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Gerald Deutsch Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:21:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Car Show in Lavallette NJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BECD19.767F8E20" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------ =_NextPart_000_01BECD19.767F8E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" content-transfer-encoding: 7bit content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dude, I'd be into that! ---Dan ---------- From: DOUG T VENNER[SMTP:DMC12@prodigy.net] Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 7:05 PM To: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Car Show in Lavallette NJ My British car club is having their second annual car show in Lavallette, NJ Sunday,July 25. We are set-up to have a class for DeLoreans. Last year we had over 70 British cars. Trophies and door prizes. Goody bags with sign-up. Cars are parked on the bay-front. Car show is in conjunction with the Lavallette Heritage Art Fair. Check out the cars, meet new people, check out the art fair and go out on the beach and take a dip. E-mail me for more info and for sign-up forms. Hope some of you can make it. Doug Venner 83 DeLorean #16680 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------ =_NextPart_000_01BECD19.767F8E20 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef content-transfer-encoding: base64 content-type: application/ms-tnef eJ8+IhkOAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAENgAQAAgAAAAIAAgABBJAG ABwBAAABAAAADAAAAAMAADADAAAACwAPDgAAAAACAf8PAQAAAEUAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDd AQ9UAgAAAABkbWNuZXdzQGVncm91cHMuY29tAFNNVFAAZG1jbmV3c0BlZ3JvdXBzLmNvbQAAAAAe AAIwAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4AAzABAAAAFAAAAGRtY25ld3NAZWdyb3Vwcy5jb20AAwAVDAEA AAADAP4PBgAAAB4AATABAAAAFgAAACdkbWNuZXdzQGVncm91cHMuY29tJwAAAAIBCzABAAAAGQAA AFNNVFA6RE1DTkVXU0BFR1JPVVBTLkNPTQAAAAADAAA5AAAAAAsAQDoBAAAAAgH2DwEAAAAEAAAA AAAAA/MzAQiABwAYAAAASVBNLk1pY3Jvc29mdCBNYWlsLk5vdGUAMQgBBIABACQAAABSRTogW0RN TF0gQ2FyIFNob3cgaW4gTGF2YWxsZXR0ZSBOSgBaCwEFgAMADgAAAM8HBwANAAoAFQAXAAIAIgEB IIADAA4AAADPBwcADQAKABUABgACABEBAQmAAQAhAAAAQUFCNDAwQUIzQUNEQkUxMUE4MjU1Mjkz NDEwRkE5RUIATgcBA5AGACAFAAASAAAACwAjAAAAAAADACYAAAAAAAsAKQAAAAAAAwA2AAAAAABA ADkA4IAH/DrNvgEeAHAAAQAAACQAAABSRTogW0RNTF0gQ2FyIFNob3cgaW4gTGF2YWxsZXR0ZSBO SgACAXEAAQAAABYAAAABvs06/AdhkBZhOQwR05ueREVTVAAAAAAeAB4MAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAA AB4AHwwBAAAAEwAAAEplcnJ5MUBlY2xpcHNlLm5ldAAAAwAGEDugyJcDAAcQ2AIAAB4ACBABAAAA ZQAAAERVREUsSURCRUlOVE9USEFULS0tREFOLS0tLS0tLS0tLUZST006RE9VR1RWRU5ORVJTTVRQ OkRNQzEyQFBST0RJR1lORVRTRU5UOk1PTkRBWSxKVUxZMTIsMTk5OTc6MDVQTVQAAAAAAgEJEAEA AACcAwAAmAMAAFEGAABMWkZ19Yorj/8ACgEPAhUCqAXrAoMAUALyCQIAY2gKwHNldDI3BgAGwwKD MgPFAgBwckJxEeJzdGVtAoMzdwLkBxMCgH0KgAjPCdk78RYPMjU1AoAKgQ2xC2DgbmcxMDMUUAsK FFFFC/JjAEAgRHUNsCwAIEknZCBiZSAhC4B0byB0EYB0IXQgLRxwRABwCoUKi2wQaTE4MALRaS0x PDQ0DfAM0B6zC1kxNvcKoANgE9BjBUAccSDVCofXH4sMMCBWRgNhOiHeIFYDDIIa4E9VRyBUIABW RU5ORVJbUwBNVFA6RE1DMQQyQCBRZGlneS76bhHAXSF/Io0GYAIwI79FJMtNAiBkYXkbMEowdWx5 ICbwGzAxOQEtICA3OjA1IFBmTSfvIo1UbyovJMtkhG1jJ6B3c0BlCcDRCGBwcy4FoG0t3yj+uHVi aiCRL/8ky1smwBBMXSBDCsFTaG9DB+ALgCBMYXYHQGw3EcAT0AewShzfHeMzNq8fVxpFIFYKhU0s sEIFEKJ0BABoIGMKwWMKQKslcAQAIBGAdguAZxwBvGVpBcARsAWgLCAgAHD8bnUHQD1TPTA4Hhsw OSePNQAsIyyDGEAuIFcboPcKwBugEbEtMpAcABvwPiE7QvE9kWEEEQIQBcBEZXpMBbBlAHFCwDhw E8Ag5nlFUAXAd2UKhRGAG3Bmb0QQBcA3MDzaRYFUeQNgcGgIkAQgAHAbcGRmbwWxE1BpegeQQsBH xUlgZCywYmFnBCAD8NccED7gJ2BuQ4EuCoU3sfdI8UMhCrFrCYBHEAOgPpH5SnF5LQNRAjBCwDey QBS3BCA4QT8RakHwIKBpTRFvStM+kQqFOHlIBnEBkGdvG6AHECNRC3ByThE+oGP6a0cQdQVATUJI IhswB4DtEcAgMgFJkGVIoDjAGzC/EXBS1QqFTUIKwAVAZlJh/UkDZxvwUxJNFkVQEXBJAx8BkEzQ RDEnUEuAIEUt/wDAAxEHgESzBGBDIQuAAhBfCoVJEkTCSyVEsm1FgUjPSKBDMQNwG6BvZkXwCGC/ PVEDoADAWLE9AEuWRAhgLT5wVgnwJ6ByCoU4M+lE9yAjICA2HkA5TAqF/yDYYw9kH2UvZekKhS/Q P1D8ZGQWEAQRMtEHgAIwBCD/SaE4kBPQLKEb4xugBGMcMPs+U0VQbRswVLFEgELxZ6X7abUFsEAx 1TLJbQ85fzqPFTufIBUxAHIAAwAQEAAAAAADABEQAAAAAEAABzDgcBzyOs2+AUAACDDgcBzyOs2+ AR4APQABAAAABQAAAFJFOiAAAAAA8HY= ------ =_NextPart_000_01BECD19.767F8E20-- ------------------------------ message 1560 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1560 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:16:12 -0400 From: Marc A Levy MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <931831413.20281.932@excite.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean patents Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It does not look like any of those are DeLorean patents. They are patents that reference older patents by DeLorean. The automotive related patents from your search reference DeLorean patents that are older. The search below only returns patents from 1998-1999. With a wider search, I found 4,557,232 and 4,515,113 "Swash Plate Engine" from May 1985. John Z DeLorean is the inventor. This may be the design being discussed for the "New D". Maybe one of the mechanic type lawyers on the list can decode the full text, but here is the abstract- " Abstract: The swash plate engine is provided with an Aspin type rotary valve system with a variable compression capability. The engine may be of four-piston type or six-piston type. The size of the combustion chambers can be changed from time to time to vary the compression ratio. The engine may also be coupled with an accumulator to store the energy of braking for subsequent acceleration of the engine. " In May of 1994, A similar patent was filed (5,437,251) which added a supercharger to a similar motor. It is not obvious if the inventors have any connection to DeLorean. Recently it seems like there a quite a bit of secrecy around what is going on with the car. I am not sure why, but I assume there is a valid reason. It is obvious that the DML (or members of the DML) are somehow involved with the situation. The excitement is building, I hope we get some answers soon before we loose interest. brian_roy@excite.com wrote: > > I finally looked up the patents that Delorean has recieved (recently) > > http://164.195.100.11/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetaht > ml%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=0&p=1&f=S&l=50&Query=Delorean&d=curr > > Now, my question is.... can somebody explain to me (in simple English) what > the two items related to the engine will do (items #3 and #6 in the list)? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1561 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1561 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 07:09:26 -0400 From: Marc A Levy MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <931812070.14063.272@excite.com> Subject: [DML] Re: cheap delorean Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This advertisement is just a pointer to a Ebay auction. The price was the auction start. With 9 days left, the price it up to $6600 Erik Geerdink wrote: > > for all those interested in a cheap delorean, there is one on > classifieds2000 for $4900. i am interested to know what kind of condition > it is in. they say it runs great and is clean and fairly dent free. maybe > this guys doesnt know how much the car is worth. if anybody lives near him, > maybe checking it out and telling the rest of us what its like would be > good. > > erik ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1562 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1562 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 02:07:48 -0400 From: Robert Hlavacek MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <931831413.20281.932@excite.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean patents Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------3276E5FC4BFCB645182B6E9F" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------3276E5FC4BFCB645182B6E9F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" content-transfer-encoding: 7bit content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I found 7 patents issued with JZD as the inventor. Two(1977) are ex[ired and four are from '83 and '85. The most recent is 5,359,941. I'll get a copy of them all tomorrow and answer any questions you have. Below is the abstract from the most recent patent: United States Patent 5,359,941 DeLorean November 1, 1994 Transportation system, vehicle and method Abstract A transport assembly for use, for example, in mass transportation, comprises a track and a frame mounted to the track for motion therealong, the frame including a housing which defines a traction chamber in communication with the track. At least one traction wheel is rotatably mounted to the frame in friction contact with the track. The traction wheel is at least partially disposed in the traction chamber. A car with a passenger compartment is coupled to the frame via a shock absorbing linkage so that the car is substantially isolated from irregularities in the track during motion of the frame and the car along the track. A suction source is operatively connected to the housing for generating a vacuum in the traction chamber during motion of the frame and the car along the track. A drive mounted to the frame is operatively connected to the traction wheel for drivingly rotating the wheel to propel the frame and the car along the track. Inventors: DeLorean; John Z. (Bedminster, NJ) Assignee: Genesis III, LLC (Bedminster, NJ) Appl. No.: 047635 Filed: April 14, 1993 Claims 1. A transport assembly comprising: a track; a frame mounted to said track for motion therealong, said frame including housing means for defining a traction chamber in communication with said track; at least one traction wheel rotatably mounted to said frame and in friction contact with said track, said traction wheel being at least partially disposed in said traction chamber: car means for defining a passenger compartment; shock absorbing means for connecting said car means to said frame so that said car means is substantially isolated from irregularities in said track during motion of said frame and said car means along said track; suction means operatively connected to said housing means for generating a vacuum in said traction chamber during motion of said frame and said car means along said track; and drive means mounted to said frame and operatively connected to said traction wheel for drivingly rotating said traction wheel to propel said frame and said car means along said track. Bob VIN10961 Registured Patent Agent US Patent and Trademark Office Reg. No. 32,779 brian_roy@excite.com wrote: > I finally looked up the patents that Delorean has recieved (recently) > > http://164.195.100.11/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetaht > ml%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=0&p=1&f=S&l=50&Query=Delorean&d=curr > > Now, my question is.... can somebody explain to me (in simple English) what > the two items related to the engine will do (items #3 and #6 in the list)? > > Thanks > Brian > VIN #4150 > Minnesota > > _______________________________________________________ > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com --------------3276E5FC4BFCB645182B6E9F Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" content-transfer-encoding: 7bit content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I found 7 patents issued with JZD as the inventor.  Two(1977) are ex[ired and four are from '83 and '85.  The most recent is 5,359,941.  I'll get a copy of them all tomorrow and answer any questions you have.  Below is the abstract from the most recent patent:
 

 United States Patent
                                                                5,359,941
 DeLorean
                                                         November 1, 1994

Transportation system, vehicle and method

                                 Abstract

A transport assembly for use, for example, in mass transportation, comprises a track and a
frame mounted to the track for motion therealong, the frame including a housing which
defines a traction chamber in communication with the track. At least one traction wheel is
rotatably mounted to the frame in friction contact with the track. The traction wheel is at
least partially disposed in the traction chamber. A car with a passenger compartment is
coupled to the frame via a shock absorbing linkage so that the car is substantially isolated
from irregularities in the track during motion of the frame and the car along the track. A
suction source is operatively connected to the housing for generating a vacuum in the
traction chamber during motion of the frame and the car along the track. A drive mounted to
the frame is operatively connected to the traction wheel for drivingly rotating the wheel to
propel the frame and the car along the track.
 

 Inventors:
           DeLorean; John Z. (Bedminster, NJ)
 Assignee:
           Genesis III, LLC (Bedminster, NJ)
 Appl. No.:
           047635
 Filed:
           April 14, 1993

                                  Claims

1. A transport assembly comprising:

a track;

a frame mounted to said track for motion therealong, said frame including housing means for
defining a traction chamber in communication with said track;

at least one traction wheel rotatably mounted to said frame and in friction contact with said
track, said traction wheel being at least partially disposed in said traction chamber:

car means for defining a passenger compartment;

shock absorbing means for connecting said car means to said frame so that said car means is
substantially isolated from irregularities in said track during motion of said frame and said
car means along said track;

suction means operatively connected to said housing means for generating a vacuum in said
traction chamber during motion of said frame and said car means along said track; and

drive means mounted to said frame and operatively connected to said traction wheel for
drivingly rotating said traction wheel to propel said frame and said car means along said
track.

Bob VIN10961
Registured Patent Agent
US Patent and Trademark Office
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brian_roy@excite.com wrote:

I finally looked up the patents that Delorean has recieved (recently)

http://164.195.100.11/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetaht
ml%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=0&p=1&f=S&l=50&Query=Delorean&d=curr

Now, my question is....  can somebody explain to me (in simple English) what
the two items related to the engine will do (items #3 and #6 in the list)?

Thanks
Brian
VIN #4150
Minnesota

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To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderato-@dmcnews.com --------------3276E5FC4BFCB645182B6E9F-- ------------------------------ message 1563 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1563 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:46:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: FP dome nut... doh! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Luke, The dome nut is not a common item. Just call PJ Grady or DMC Houston and ask for part number 110589G $3.50. If you ask they can ship Next Day. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1564 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1564 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:12:25 -0500 From: "William F. Lane" MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7md03v$am6v@eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Troubleshooting Diagnostic Chart, Orginal Window Sticker, The Silver Dream Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The sticker on my D was also $26,175.00. It was purchased December 4, 1981 from Bill Jackson Toyota in Winston-Salem, NC. I paid $22,400.00 for the car new. Bill Lane VIN 3635 mdeluca@comtechpst.com wrote: > <37894b27.d3b5e4d-@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=1531 > > Hello, > > > > > > I do have a couple of questions/comments: > > > > 1. I found the original window sticker for the car . It was sold out > of > > R.O. Evans Pontiac-GMC, CO. Dallas Texas with a sticker price of > > $26,825.00 isn't it likely it sold for more than this? FYI the sticker > > states the car should get 18 MPH with an annual fuel cost of around > > $1,291 @ $1.55 per gallon. > > > > > > Thanks for the Help. > > Love the list! > > Dan Haney > > Vin 3254 In the family since 1985. > > > >I have the original window sticker and bill of sale for my 81 Delorean > It was purchased from Dave Ball Chevrolet, Inc. in Syracuse N.Y. > The MSRP was $25,000.00 U.S processing charges $600.00, And destination > charge of $575.00, > Total $26,175.00 (and yes that was the sale price). > Note: the annual fuel cost on my sticker reads $1223 Based on 19 MPG @ > $1.55 / Gallon. > > Here is a question to the group, how many people paid more or less then > the sticker price for their Delorean and when was it purchased? > > Mike D. > Vin 3113 > NY Lic. DLORIANN > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1565 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1565 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Gus Schlachter" Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:53:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Fanzilla for sale Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01BECCB9.5301DE40" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BECCB9.5301DE40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: 7bit content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" When I spoke up last week about having a Fanzilla to spare, I got numerous requests to sell it, many more than I expected. So I decided that if eBay is good enough for DMC Houston, it's good enough for me. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130886908 Gus Schlachter Austin, TX VIN 4695 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BECCB9.5301DE40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
When I = spoke up last week about having a Fanzilla to spare, I got numerous request= s to = sell it, many more than I expected.  So I decided that if eBay is good= = enough for DMC Houston, it's good enough for me.
 
 
 
Gus = Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN 4695
To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderato-@dmcnews.com ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BECCB9.5301DE40-- ------------------------------ message 1566 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1566 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Gussob@aol.com Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:50:27 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] "Weird Windows" on my DeLorean handout Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all....I have this DeLorean pamphlet probably from a dealership (you know, one with the specs and all),and the picture on it has a different set of windows on the car. Instead of the small one that rolls down on all other DMC's I've been blessed to see, it has a vertical line seperating two panes of glass. (In the middle of course.) I'm just curious as to what that's all about? Was it a prototype car or what? Thanks Dave Loffler Formerly Seattle, WA now Providence, RI VIN- I WANT A D! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1567 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1567 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:38:25 -0700 (PDT) From: James Espey MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean patents Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Look closely and you'll see that neither of these are patents that JZD received. They merely reference previous patents (from the 1960's) that DeLorean had a role in obtaining (they actually belong to GM). --- brian_roy@excite.com wrote: > I finally looked up the patents that Delorean has > recieved (recently) > (irrelevent info SNIPPED) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1568 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1568 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "BRUCE BENSON" Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:38:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] No Subject Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01F7_01BECD5E.E41A47A0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_01F7_01BECD5E.E41A47A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Let's give the VIN# thing a rest untill we see John Heflin's results on his= web site. Moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address modera= tor@dmcnews.com ------=_NextPart_000_01F7_01BECD5E.E41A47A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Let's give the VIN# thing a rest untill we see John Hef= lin's = results on his web site.
 
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To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderato-@dmcnews.com ------=_NextPart_000_01F7_01BECD5E.E41A47A0-- ------------------------------ message 1569 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1569 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DeLorean31@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:27:52 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Car Show in Lavallette NJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I plan on attending this show also. Hopefully we will have a good turnout of DeLoreans there. Gary W. Gore Activities Director DeLorean Mid Atlantic VIN 3360 http://members.aol.com/delorean31/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1570 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1570 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:23:30 -0700 From: jordang@wf.quik.com In-Reply-To: <01BECB33.11DFC1C0@umluhgic> Subject: [DML] Re: No power to pass Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David, you describe the problems that I had on my car when I got it 1 1/2 years ago. After trying many things and talking to lots of people, it turned out to only be a bad O2 sensor which was cheap and easy to replace. Jordan Gary > However, when the engine heats up (perhaps 15 miles of highway driving), I can't get the car to move above about 70 MPH / 3K RPM in 5th. At about 67 mph, the car begins to shake a little. The acceleration problem soon affects all the gears, and I soon have no get up and go at all- O to 35 in about 8-9 seconds. If the car is on the highway on a slight incline, I sometimes can't even get the car up to 55 MPH! Trying to get the RPM's up by going from 4th to 5th seems to make the acceleration problem worse. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1571 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1571 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: dcsj@excite.com Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:12:01 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Expo 99 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If your planning to go to St.Louis this fall I would suggest trying priceline.com for lodging and/or air travel. rooms at the regal riverfront ,where expo is , start at $100 and go up . Very pricey for a bed and shower. You don't have to stay their of course. try shopping around I am now booked into a 4 star hotel in downtown St. louis 1or2 miles away from the arch for 3 nights @ $55 per night a very good deal for a 4 star hotel. Yes I'm sure you can find a motel 6 ( 30 min. away) for alittle less money but why bother when you can live in luxury Cheap. now I have an extra $150 for the products fair. I'm Happy : ) Also If anyone is thinking of caravaning to the show from southern Wisconsin or Northern IL. I would be interested in joing you please contact me directly Thanks Dennis 5180 _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1572 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1572 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:36:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Front Wheel Camber Adjustment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave, The front camber is non-adjustable. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: David Sontos > To: dmcnews Newsletter > Subject: [DML] Front Wheel Camber Adjustment > Date: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 4:41 PM > > How do I adjust my front wheel camber? > > Dave > VIN 02573 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1573 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1573 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:40:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: fuel accumulator Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit erik, All the DeLorean suppliers stock the accumulator, if you never changed one before you will probably consider the procedure very difficult. If the car starts after a few tries the problem is not the fuel accumulator. . DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: delorean502@excite.com > To: dmcnews@eGroups.com > Subject: [DML] fuel accumulator > Date: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 1:00 PM > > how hard is it to install a new fuel accumulator? my D runs fine, but > when i try to start it up after driving it, it take a couple tries to > get it going. other than that it has no problem. i dont want to give > deloreans a bad name by not starting. while i'm at it, does anybody > have a fuel accumulator for sale or know of a place to get one? i know > DMC Houston has them, does anybody else? thanks for the help > > erik ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1574 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1574 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:33:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: transmission Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit efren, There are no substitutes for either the auto or manual trans. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: jtrealty@webspan.net > To: dmcnews@eGroups.com > Subject: [DML] Re: transmission > Date: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 2:06 PM > > <19990708215509.15060.rocketmai-@web1004.mail.yahoo.com> wrote: > original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=1495 > > hello > > Im a 16 year old delorean owner im getting desperate on getting a > > transmission for my delorean that i might have to use a different one. > > Does any one recommend any and also is the any delorean owner in lake > > Elsinore > > > > efren > > vin#16072 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1575 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1575 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:58:26 -0700 From: marge.lentzen@eh.doe.gov In-Reply-To: <57a221e3.24bc1183@aol.com> Subject: [DML] Re: "Weird Windows" on my DeLorean handout Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave, You hit the nail on the head. It was a prototype. -John > about? Was it a prototype car or what? > Thanks > Dave Loffler > Formerly Seattle, WA now Providence, RI > VIN- I WANT A D! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1576 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1576 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:37:09 -0700 From: jordang@wf.quik.com In-Reply-To: <199907091557.KAA67268@mail5.doit.wisc.edu> Subject: [DML] Re: Exhaust smells like gasoline? Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe that the problem is most likely the O2 sensor. They can be bought for about $50 at any car parts store. Tell them that you have a 1980 volvo 264. It is very easy to replace if you have a large enough wrench. > Jordan Gary vin 0794 > When I take my car for a spin and then pull it into the garage- my > entire garage stinks of raw gasoline for a day! There is no gasoline > leak that I can see. Someone in the archives had a simlar problem and > was recommended to look into replacing his O2 sensor. A little more > info may help- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1577 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1577 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Michael Babb" Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:20:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: ] oil pressure problem Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01BECD5C.71DAC2C0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01BECD5C.71DAC2C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ryan, I was pretty freaked out when I purchased my DeLorean and started to watch = the oil pressure doing what seamed to be "bad things." In all actuality, = The pressure will shoot up to 80 when a cold car has been started and is in= the process of warming up. Once the car has warmed up a bit, the car shou= ld idle with the pressure guage just about horizontal. It will then increa= se (even back up to 80) as the engine is reved (or if you are actually driv= ing). Just soulds like it is doing what it is supposed to! (Missing oil m= ight be another issue though) Michael Babb VIN 3472 = Upon starting the car, the oil light was on and the pressure gauge was way above 80. When I turn the car off it sits at 60. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address modera= tor@dmcnews.com ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01BECD5C.71DAC2C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Ryan,
 
I was pretty freaked out when I purchased my DeLorean a= nd = started to watch the oil pressure doing what seamed to be "bad things."&nbs= p; In = all actuality,  The pressure will shoot up to 80 when a cold car has b= een = started and is in the process of warming up.  Once the car has warmed = up a = bit, the car should idle with the pressure guage just about horizontal.&nbs= p; It = will then increase (even back up to 80) as the engine is reved (or if you a= re = actually driving).  Just soulds like it is doing what it is supposed = to!  (Missing oil might be another issue though)
 
Michael Babb
VIN 3472
 
<SNIP>
Upon starting the car, the oil light was on and the pre= ssure = gauge was way
above 80.  When I turn the car off it sits at = 60.
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To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderato-@dmcnews.com ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01BECD5C.71DAC2C0-- ------------------------------ message 1578 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1578 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:02:27 -0700 From: marge.lentzen@eh.doe.gov In-Reply-To: <7mg0fv$taru@eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean VIN Speculations (was: DMCs for sale) - LONG Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit VIN 3xx...wow, and that reminds me, I remember reading about a VIN 215 (or close to that) somewhere before, possibly DW, and anybody know anything about that car? Also painted DeLoreans have got me intrested (maybe cause I am buying a black one :) but anyways, I think I heard on the DML sometime ago about a 'pink' DeLorean. Yes, Pink. Ugly color for a D, but anyone know where this car is?? I seem to recall it being in Saudi Arabia, possibly beloning to the royal family or something like that. I'd like to see what this car looks like! -John snip....... > My friend has credability because he recently sent a 300 VIN to > Germany to be sold. > The DMC Wannabe ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1579 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1579 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Iznodmad@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:31:13 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean VIN Speculations (zero-numbered cars) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Seems you forgot one of the zero-numbered cars. You mentioned #500 and #16000 as the ONLY ones for sure that exist. Well you forgot to add mine...#5000. So at least 3 exist today, out of a possible 20 or so that "could" have been built. Darren Decker ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 1580 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1580 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DOUG T VENNER" Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:10:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Car Show in Lavallette NJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry about that DMC12@prodigy.net Doug Venner 83 DeLorean #16680 -----Original Message----- From: Rodger I. Vannatter To: dmcnews@egroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 7:17 PM Subject: [DML] Re: Car Show in Lavallette NJ >what's the email address??? > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- View the full archives, subscribe/unsubscribe, use the group calendar at http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews Manage your subscriptions at http://eGroups.com Free e-mail groups by eGroups.com. 
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