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Subject: [DML] calling Scott Cagle
Date: 19-Sep-99 1:23:40 +0000
Scott Cagle - you requested information from me but for whatever reason it
won't go through. Please respond with an email address that works. (Sorry
to use the DML for this, but I don't know how else to respond to him.)
Darryl Tinnerstet
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Subject: [DML] Re: Owners check list, not for the car, but you!
Date: 19-Sep-99 3:00:11 -0400
In a message dated 9/18/99 12:10:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
a0017673@airmail.net writes:
<<
On the other hand, you could have done worse. You could have bought a
Bricklin. Bricklins,
while they have more power, have REALLY poor design and suspension although
their wiring is
better and is mostly absent of Delorean era electronics. The acrylic body
(no Erik, it is not
fiberglass) does resist dents and gouges quite well, but is very susceptible
to stress cracks
and cannot be repaired or painted easily (nor can a Delorean). And as far as
JZD being a
genius, well while he was at the top of his class, he did nothing more
spectacular than Malcom
Bricklin. >>
As a Bricklin and Delorean owner since 1980 I had to respond to Steves
Remarks on The Bricklin,First off, acrylic in itself is too weak to be a body
panel,The Bricklin is a fiberglassed car with acrylic bonded to the
fiberglass,like the colored fiberglass bathtubs,Second ,The design on both
the B and the D were designed for their time period and they both are still
timeless,for a seventies car(Bricklin)it handled its own against the same
year corvettes as far as fiberglass stress cracks go,a Bricklin taken care of
is no worse than a Corvette,and as far as painting a Delorean or a
Bricklin,they both can be painted if you know what you are doing,also if
people like JZD,or Malcom Bricklin,or Mr.Ford,or Wright brothers,or any other
person with visions,if they did not act upon their dreams,chances are you
would not have what you have today.Come on Steve if both cars are as bad as
you say,why have you hung on to them as long as you have,The suspension on
the Delorean,is just as good as a mid 80's Lotus Esprit,and the"bugs" on the
D,that is what this List is all about,to help each other when we have
problems with our Deloreans as they age.
Claude
Vin#000570/6383/10554
Bricklin#1024/1136
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Subject: [DML] Re: Big suspension Q!
Date: 19-Sep-99 3:04:22 -0400
In a message dated 9/18/99 12:09:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Chris.Coplen@ix.netcom.com writes:
<< m having a SERIOUS problem with the car "wiggling" at highway speeds. It
feels like both the front and back swing right and left as I go down the
road. It's kind of a slow "floating" and "swaying" feeling. At speeds
around 100+ it's downright FRIGHTENING how badly it sways. You have to
REALLY hold on to the wheel to keep the car going straight. Sometimes it
requires counter steer, this is how bad >>
This may sound to simple,but maybe the guage you are using to check the air
pressure may be way off,causing you to put improper air pressure.
Claude
000570
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Subject: [DML] RHD CONVERSION
Date: 19-Sep-99 19:45:30 +1000
I recall someone from the UK asking about a RHD conversion. William
Junkins from Sydney is presently having his DeLorean converted to RHD. It
is being carried out by a RHD specialist in Brookvale (Sydney suburb).
Willlam has all the good oil on the conversion, so if anyone has any
questions, please give him a honk on either of the two addresses below.
I'm sure William will be only too pleased to offer adivce and give a SITREP
on the progress of his vehicle.
William_Junkins@xircom.com
seek200@bigpond.com
Lance (Australia)
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Subject: [DML] Re: Autocross in St. Louis the weekend of the Expo
Date: 19-Sep-99 10:48:41 -0600
Could any of you which visit the Autocross events take a camera or even a
camcorder. Small Avi's could be put on the DMCNews.com or similar site with
a download section. Alternatively a video (NTSC + PAL) could be for
sale.......
I have yet to see a DMC running at its limits except on the silver-screen.
I am curious, do ANY of you know what engine was used to dub over the PRV in
the BTTF films????
Christopher M. Hawes
DMD (Delorean Model Dealership)
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Subject: [DML] Front Wheel
Date: 19-Sep-99 10:22:39 -0700
Had someone merge into me yesterday. Luckly I was able to take the car
into the curb in time. So now I'm looking for a front rim to replace mine
- it's scraped up pretty bad.
Also - I think I only need an alignment, the toe-in (sp?) is all that
appears to be messed up. But has anyone had this happen (hit a curb hard
at an angle) and did more damage than you could see?
If you have a wheel for sale, please respond just to me with the details-
I don't want to add to the mailing list unless it's something others will
benefit from. (Also, he had insurance, so I'll be checking with the
various DMC dealers/shops - but if I can save everyone a little money I'd
be happy.)
Thanks!
-Eric
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Subject: [DML] Clutch not releasing
Date: 19-Sep-99 14:28:12 -0500
Today, I put a new battery in my DeLorean and fired it up for a Sunday
Cruise.
The clutch does not seem to be disengaging the engine from the transmission.
The gears grind horribly.
There is plenty of fluid in the reservoir, I installed the stainless braided
line in 1984.
The car has 24K miles on it. I admit that it has sat for a couple of
months, though I had no problems when I last drove it.
Any suggestions on how to free up the clutch/pressure plate?
Scott Mueller
ScottMueller@zebra.net
1981/002981 DOA5031/DMCNEWS
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Subject: [DML] Re: Gas Mask
Date: 19-Sep-99 20:43:22 +0000
O.K., this is more a confessional than a possible solution (I think the
statute of limitations on such a crime has expired). When I was a young
chemistry student at UCD we learned the joys of chemically reproducing the
likes of vomit and dead animals and placing a few drops strategically in the
fresh air inlets or door panels of unsuspecting frat boys. This will "ruin"
a car for months, especially on a warm California day. Some degradation
products will spawn microorganisms that will carry on the smell for even
further lengths of time (rotting flesh is good for this). So, good luck,
follow your nose, and check for any budding chemists in the neighborhood!
-SweatyEddy
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Subject: [DML] Re: Owners check list, not for the car, but you!
Date: 19-Sep-99 14:59:41 -0700
I assume you are talking to me - please point out where I said or even intimated the word
"JUNK". You entirely missed the point of my comments, so I'll take it down a notch. While
neither the Delorean nor the Bricklin are "mechanical marvels" as some uninformed may profess,
they are FUN cars, Fun to drive and Fun to look at. No one in their right mind should buy a
20+ year old piece of machinery for any other reason. (And despite what some of you non owner
lurker teenagers think, it won't get you a girl) My 67 Mustang convertible was one of the best
selling cars cars ever made, yet inspite of the $15,000 I've invested in the car since 1980,
it too is not a "mechanical marvel", nor is my 1970 Ford F100 Custom shortbed with factory 302
hotrod truck, nor my 95 Corvette. They are all old machines (except for the Vette) that give
me pleasure, but in keeping it all in perspective I do not "thank my savior" for creating
them anymore than I thank JZD. 'Course my baby blue 59 Caddy conv is another story.
steve brodsky #10688
SAND131@aol.com wrote:
> >From someone who owns both your comments surely have some weight and should
> come from experience. I as a Delorean owner don't necessarily disagree. I
> can't comment on Bricklins. My question is: why do you own two cars that in
> your opinion are junk when you could be driving a nice Honda Accord (Sony) ?
> Ralph VIN 1606
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Subject: [DML] Re: NEW DELOREAN WILL HAVE GULLWING DOORS
Date: 19-Sep-99 18:02:26 -0400
the new DeLorean, if built, is supposed to have gullwing doors as far as i've
heard.
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Subject: [DML] dmc plates in front
Date: 19-Sep-99 15:17:58 -0700
dear dml
i was wondering do i have to put the lisece plates in front of my
delorean. if i did i would have to drill hole on the facia is there any
way i could go around that?
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Subject: [DML] Re: Autocross in St. Louis the weekend of the Expo
Date: 19-Sep-99 19:34:49 -0500
In-reply-to: <19990919094841>.35236.qmail
I'm planning on taking stills which I can put on my website. Also, my wife
and I normally set up our camcorder as an "in-car" camera and we plan to
tape our runs. I can put together some AVIs with that, although with my
work schedule it will probably take a few days after the event before the
AVIs would get posted.
While an autocross is run at the limits of the car, it is NOT run at the
high speed limits and video taken from the outside usually looks pretty
boring unless somebody manages to do a spinout or something. That's why
autocrosses aren't really a spectator event. People get bored just
watching. It's once you are inside the car that you get the adreniline rush!
Mark N
VIN 6820
At 10:48 AM 9/19/99 BST, you wrote:
>Could any of you which visit the Autocross events take a camera or even a
>camcorder. Small Avi's could be put on the DMCNews.com or similar site with
>a download section. Alternatively a video (NTSC + PAL) could be for
>sale.......
>
>I have yet to see a DMC running at its limits except on the silver-screen.
>I am curious, do ANY of you know what engine was used to dub over the PRV in
>the BTTF films????
>
>
>Christopher M. Hawes
>DMD (Delorean Model Dealership)
>
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Subject: [DML] Follow-up Info for the St. Louis Autocross
Date: 19-Sep-99 19:40:54 -0500
I've created a quick and dirty Web page with information on the Autocross
that is being held in St. Louis on October 10th. The page has a map and
driving instructions to the site from the downtown location where the Expo
is being held. Plus I've included a step-by-step detailed description of
what happens at an autocross in this region. This includes things you
should do before arriving, like over-inflating your tires a little bit, as
well as information on how the event itself is organized.
http://www.buffalochips.org/stlautox/
If you have any questions or comments on this, please e-mail me at
mnoeltne@ezl.com
Thanks!!
Mark Noeltner
VIN 6820
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Subject: [DML] Question about the "RH Drive Poster"
Date: 19-Sep-99 20:11:53 -0500
I was looking closely at my copy of the poster that is supposed to show a
Right Hand Drive car. Is this really a Right Hand Drive car or did they
just reverse the negative? Looking closely at the windshield wipers, I'm
noticing that the arm on the driver's side originates at the side of the
car rather than at the center. If the car had been designed from the ground
up as a RH drive I would say this would be correct, but since the D was
designed as a LH drive car, and most of the production was LH cars, then I
seriously doubt that they would have gone to the trouble of reversing the
wiper mounts when building the few RH cars.
Just curious about it!
Here is a scan of the poster as shown on a current eBay auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=166898162
Thanks!
Mark N
VIN 6820
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Subject: [DML] Re: Clutch not releasing
Date: 19-Sep-99 18:56:13 -0700
The first thing I would do is securely jack up the D, have a partner depress the clutch to see
if you have any movement in the throw out arm. If you do, then, most likely the problem is
more serious. If you have no movement, then it would have to be in the hydraulic system. That
would be far less costly.
Scott Mueller wrote:
> Today, I put a new battery in my DeLorean and fired it up for a Sunday
> Cruise.
>
> The clutch does not seem to be disengaging the engine from the transmission.
> The gears grind horribly.
>
> There is plenty of fluid in the reservoir, I installed the stainless braided
> line in 1984.
>
> The car has 24K miles on it. I admit that it has sat for a couple of
> months, though I had no problems when I last drove it.
>
> Any suggestions on how to free up the clutch/pressure plate?
>
> Scott Mueller
> ScottMueller@zebra.net
> 1981/002981 DOA5031/DMCNEWS
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Subject: [DML] Re: hoses
Date: 19-Sep-99 22:24:02 -0400
In a message dated 9/17/99 8:06:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
magriese@us.ibm.com writes:
<< Download the DeLorean parts manual from the DMC News
web site and spend some quality time with it. In my opinion
parts manuals for cars are more valuable than the service
manuals because the parts manuals show exploded
diagrams of all of the subsystems in the car. >>
I bought my DMC new in 1984 and purchased the shop manual, parts manual and
update bulletin manual soon there after. Having done a lot of work on this
vehicle, and had a lot of work done for me (air conditioning recharge,
alignment, etc.) I can't believe anyone would be so foolish as to attempt
repairs without the above support literature.
Burke
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Subject: [DML] gas guage not working
Date: 19-Sep-99 20:16:11 -0700
i have an 81 d and the gas guage is not working. has anyone had this
problem and are there any sugestions on how to fix the problem.
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Subject: [DML] changing the clutch fluid line
Date: 19-Sep-99 20:18:45 -0700
can anyone advise how hard (if it is hard) it is to change the old
clutch fluid line to the updated stanless braided one. also what may
happen if i don't?
thanks officer rick
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Subject: [DML] "D" is for "Disassembled"
Date: 20-Sep-99 0:01:41 -0400
Well, I finally got the chance to go down and see the disassembled D
that I asked y'all about on the list last week. It's an '81 w/a 5
speed. That's exactly what I wanted, if not exactly the condition I
wanted it in. The owner moved the car last month from the garage where
he disassembled it to a shed across the street. He used a forklift
(ouch!) to move the body shell to its new location.
After a brief bit of haggling, I nailed the price down to a very
reasonable and affordable amount. Thanks again to Greg Guillot, who
provided me with bargaining materials to help bring the price down. The
owner wouldn't take a deposit, saying it wasn't necessary as we had
shaken hands on the deal, and that should be good enough. I kind of
like that, but don't necessarily trust it. A lot can happen between a
shake of the hand and a turn of the key, you know? However, at the end
of October I will bring several bushel baskets and a rake and bring home
my new toy. =)
For all of you Pittsburgh D owners, I would appreciate if you could drop
me a line if you would be willing to help with a "bag it and tag it"
parts identification party in early November.
Also, a big thanks to everyone who responded to my earlier emails. Your
information has helped a lot.
-Dave Stragand
Pittsburgh, PA
VIN# ???? (but an '81 with a 5 speed!)
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Subject: [DML] Driver's door does not latch
Date: 20-Sep-99 0:13:47 -0400
I have known for a while that my doors are not exactly the best as far as
lining up correctly and closing properly, but this takes the cake. It turns
out that my drivers side door does not latch down at all! I discovered this
while driving it this weekend and hitting a large bump, and then hearing both
latches rattle. Since I have had the car, I would notice the door coming
open just a little while driving at higher speeds such that I could look out
the back corner and see the road. I have been thinking that the front latch
was latching down properly. But tonight after putting the D up for the
night, I reached to open the door and missed the door handle, but I still
opened the door! To clarify, I can open the door not even using the handle,
just by pulling up on the body moldings! Quite frankly this frightens me.
All this time, the door could have come open at highway speeds and then I
would not have a door. So I guess my question is, what can I do to adjust
the latches? I think it has to do with the tension on the door handle.
Whoever installed the metal door handle updates didn't do too well putting it
all back together. It's way too loose!!! I would use the door locks, but
the drivers door likes to stay in the locked position. Yes the solonoid is
more or less burnt in the lock position. And yes I have disconnected the
central locking mechanism, but the damage has been done already by the
previous owner(s).
Thank you,
Darren Decker
Vin#5000
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Subject: [DML] Re: Owners check list, not for the car, but you!
Date: 20-Sep-99 7:38:31 -0500
WOW - a Delorean owner since 1980. Seriously - though - VISION?? JZD?? Malcom Bricklin??? You
can say that in the same context of the Wright Bros and Henry Ford?? Good grief. What vision??
Make millions of dollars? If that's so, add me to the list. Malcom Bricklin, the man who also
brought us the Yugo, was not any type of societal visionary - just a lousy businessman with a
flair for marketing. As far as JZD, - well he just screwed up.
Neither cars are junk cars but neither are they timeless classics. If so they would be worth
considerably more and people wouldn't clogging up this net with discussions about putting
Northstar engines or 350's into them.
Here's a final thought for you - if the Delorean is such a "mechanical wonder" why do you
compare it to a "mid 80's Lotus Esprit" (same for Bricklin) - shouldn't the standard be the
Bricklin and/or Delorean.
Steve #10688
> Claude writes
>
> As a Bricklin and Delorean owner since 1980 I had to respond to Steves
> Remarks on The Bricklin,First off, acrylic in itself is too weak to be a body
> panel,The Bricklin is a fiberglassed car with acrylic bonded to the
> fiberglass,like the colored fiberglass bathtubs,Second ,The design on both
> the B and the D were designed for their time period and they both are still
> timeless,for a seventies car(Bricklin)it handled its own against the same
> year corvettes as far as fiberglass stress cracks go,a Bricklin taken care of
> is no worse than a Corvette,and as far as painting a Delorean or a
> Bricklin,they both can be painted if you know what you are doing,also if
> people like JZD,or Malcom Bricklin,or Mr.Ford,or Wright brothers,or any other
> person with visions,if they did not act upon their dreams,chances are you
> would not have what you have today.Come on Steve if both cars are as bad as
> you say,why have you hung on to them as long as you have,The suspension on
> the Delorean,is just as good as a mid 80's Lotus Esprit,and the"bugs" on the
> D,that is what this List is all about,to help each other when we have
> problems with our Deloreans as they age.
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Front Wheel
Date: 20-Sep-99 9:05:04 -0400
I hit a curb many years ago, and also thought the front would just need
to be realigned, but later found out that the steering rack had been
damaged. Steering racks are getting rare, I think most of the service
centers have rebuilt units. PJ Grady fixed mine.
E Grauff wrote:
<SNIP>
> Also - I think I only need an alignment, the toe-in (sp?) is all that
> appears to be messed up. But has anyone had this happen (hit a curb hard
> at an angle) and did more damage than you could see?
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Subject: [DML] How many D's are actually in Australia
Date: 20-Sep-99 23:31:12 +1000
Lance and friends
I have 4162, there is one for sale in Perth, there is one in a museum in Adelaide, I hear there is another one coming to Brisbane from LA, there is Mr Junin's mentioned below...that makes 5 or so.
Are ther any more know down under?
Greg Scalia
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From: Lance R Haslewood[SMTP:lanceh@zeta.org.au]
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 7:45 PM
To: dmcnews@egroups.com
Subject: [DML] RHD CONVERSION
I recall someone from the UK asking about a RHD conversion. William
Junkins from Sydney is presently having his DeLorean converted to RHD. It
is being carried out by a RHD specialist in Brookvale (Sydney suburb).
Willlam has all the good oil on the conversion, so if anyone has any
questions, please give him a honk on either of the two addresses below.
I'm sure William will be only too pleased to offer adivce and give a SITREP
on the progress of his vehicle.
William_Junkins@xircom.com
seek200@bigpond.com
Lance (Australia)
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Date: 20-Sep-99 23:31:12 +1000
Lance and friends
I have 4162, there is one for sale in Perth, there is one in a museum in Adelaide, I hear there is another one coming to Brisbane from LA, there is Mr Junin's mentioned below...that makes 5 or so.
Are ther any more know down under?
Greg Scalia
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From: Lance R Haslewood[SMTP:lanceh@zeta.org.au]
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 7:45 PM
To: dmcnews@egroups.com
Subject: [DML] RHD CONVERSION
I recall someone from the UK asking about a RHD conversion. William
Junkins from Sydney is presently having his DeLorean converted to RHD. It
is being carried out by a RHD specialist in Brookvale (Sydney suburb).
Willlam has all the good oil on the conversion, so if anyone has any
questions, please give him a honk on either of the two addresses below.
I'm sure William will be only too pleased to offer adivce and give a SITREP
on the progress of his vehicle.
William_Junkins@xircom.com
seek200@bigpond.com
Lance (Australia)
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Subject: [DML] Re: Spare Keys
Date: 20-Sep-99 6:41:27 -0700
In-reply-to: <59628844>.2514de6e
I went to my local locksmith over the weekend to have a duplicate set
of keys made.I told him use the ilco x29 for the ignition and the x9
for the door. The x9 was not an exact match(he thought it would work)
but found an X55 blank (mfg. unknown but said the ilco x55 blank should
be the same) that worked great. Just thought I would pass the x55 blank
info along for the door key.
Mike D.
Vin 3113
NY Lic DLORIANN
Still want to here from Long Island Delorean owners out there, I saw
one of you on RT25 in Mattituck on Sunday night so I know your out
there.
jcox400-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=3190
> Dear DML'ers,
>
> I feel duty bound to dispell a myth that was posted a couple of days
ago.
> Someone had mentioned that Wal-Mart was no place to have keys made,
however,
> quite the contrary!
>
> Wal-Mart is now using the Axxess+ system, a state of the art system,
which
> cuts both sides at the same time with almost no miscuts. The
DeLorean uses
> blank number 51. There may be a few older stores out there still
using the
> old "line 'em up, and cut 'em" method, but most of the stores have
already
> converted. Thought you should all know the facts!
>
> Jeff
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Date: 20-Sep-99 7:55:47 -0600
Efren
Whether you have to put a license plate on the front is dependent upon your
state's laws (here in Colorado it is required and very often enforced).
The good news is that you don't have to drill holes in the bumper/fascia.
All of the DeLorean Service Centers sell a license plate holder that works
very nicely and requires no hole drilling.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Subject: [DML] Re: Owners check list, not for the car, but you!
Date: 20-Sep-99 8:12:02 -0700
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Steve, you obviously have some issues with the Delorean that need to be
worked out. Maybe you should sell your Delorean if you do not like it.
Give it a good home. Not a home where it is not loved. JZD DID have
a vision. and I think he did a good job in creating that vision. I
don't know anything about Bricklins execpt that I heard they leak so I
wont get into that. Please don't post such critisizing messages about
a car that the majority love and have had a longing for for years.
that is very rude. I would never consider saying something bad about
someone elses dream. true, the delorean has it's flaws and thats why
this list is here. when was the last time someone posted a message
saying "well, my car still runs perfectly...just wanted to let everyone
know" the list is here for mechanical advise not bashing the Delorean.
thanks
Erik Geerdink
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Date: 20-Sep-99 8:18:29 -0700
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Here in Michigan the front license plate is not required. But the
previous owner did have one on and i think there are holes in the front
fender now...i can't remember, its been a while since I looked at my
Deloreans front (its in the garage waiting repair) is there any way to
patch up those holes with out getting a new front fender? also, the
previous owner made it look like the BTTF delorean sometime in the past
and must have used scotch tape to hold the wires on. now there are
little take marks on the fender, front and back. Could someone please
tell me how to remove those stains? that would really help me out a
lot. thanks
erik geerdink
4512
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Subject: [DML] Re: the "RH Drive Poster"
Date: 20-Sep-99 11:33:03 -0400
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At 08:11 PM 09/19/1999 -0500, Mark Noeltner wrote:
>I was looking closely at my copy of the poster that is supposed to show a
>Right Hand Drive car. Is this really a Right Hand Drive car or did they
>just reverse the negative?
I have owned a copy of that poster (before my cat destroyed it), and yes,
I'm pretty sure the negative was reversed. By the way, I wouldn't bid in
the e-Bay auction for that poster -- it's still being printed, and
available for sale (for just $2.50 US!) at:
http://www.ohio.net/~pie1/posters/cars/cars.htm
I'm not afiliated with them in any way -- just passing along the info.
Enjoy,
Brian Henderlong / Tampa, FL / DOA# 4977 / No VIN yet...
mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com
http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm
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Subject: [DML] Re: changing the clutch fluid line
Date: 20-Sep-99 10:41:53 -0500
Thoughts on replacing the Clutch Line with the SS version:
- Make sure that the SS line does not "rub" on the frame since this can
result in bare spots that will start rust problems. Braided SS lines can
be very abrasive.
- Use a plastic or rubber liner over the SS line as prevention.
- If I recall, the original instructions called for drilling holes to hold
the plastic zip strips to the frame. Don't unless you adequately reseal to
prevent rust. There are plenty of things to attach the line to without
drilling holes.
Nick Kemp
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Date: 20-Sep-99 11:00:12 -0500
This reminds me...I had a rear-end "clunk" that I was troubleshooting
(supsension, I think) and went to secure the battery to make sure that
wasn't the problem. However, I couldn't for the life of me figure out how
to accomplish that with the given straps and latch mechanism. Can anyone
possibly explain how to do it over email (i.e., without the benefit of
gestures, illustrations, or other visual aids). It frankly has me baffled.
Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William T Wilson
> Subject: [DML] Re: Autocross in St. Louis the weekend
> of the Expo
>
> Autocrossing is not hard on the car assuming that it is mechanically sound
> to begin with. Check your brakes, suspension, and your battery. If your
> battery isn't *tight* in the battery compartment you won't pass tech.
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Date: 20-Sep-99 13:41:11 -0400
How could you be a DeLorean owner since 1980? The first cars sold from production were in 1981 as we all know.
Vin 5588
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Subject: [DML] Re: Clutch not releasing
Date: 20-Sep-99 14:21:01 -0400
This should not be difficult to troubleshoot; first of all, have you
checked your clutch fluid level ?
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: Scott Mueller <scottmueller@zebra.net>
> Today, I put a new battery in my DeLorean and fired it up for a Sunday
> Cruise.
>
> The clutch does not seem to be disengaging the engine from the
transmission.
> The gears grind horribly.
>
> There is plenty of fluid in the reservoir, I installed the stainless
braided
> line in 1984.
>
> The car has 24K miles on it. I admit that it has sat for a couple of
> months, though I had no problems when I last drove it.
>
> Any suggestions on how to free up the clutch/pressure plate?
>
>
> Scott Mueller
> ScottMueller@zebra.net
> 1981/002981 DOA5031/DMCNEWS
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Date: 20-Sep-99 14:37:11 -0400
> Mark Noeltner wrote:
>
> I was looking closely at my copy of the poster that is supposed to show a
> Right Hand Drive car. Is this really a Right Hand Drive car or did they
> just reverse the negative?
The image on the poster may well be reversed but there were some RH
drives built. They may have been aftermarket but they were built.
Regards,
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Midlothian, VA
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Subject: [DML] Re: Driver's door does not latch
Date: 20-Sep-99 14:39:38 -0400
Iznodmad@aol.com wrote:
> . . . . It turns out that my drivers side door does not latch down at all!
Perhaps the DML needs a primer to help people get prompt, useful responses to their
questions. In Iznodmad's case, the primer should have warned him to mention the condition of
his door guides. My experience is that the DeLorean door design works very well, provided the
doors have door guides.
If the doors have no guides, or the guides were added after years of use without them, then
all sorts of nasty things could have happened to your latches. You may need new ones.
I thought that by the time VIN 5000 came along door guides were standard factory equipment,
but I could be wrong. Regardless, anyone having trouble with their door latch mechanism will
get a quicker answer if they mention their door guides (or lack thereof) in their post.
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Subject: [DML] License Plates
Date: 20-Sep-99 11:55:32 -0700
When I purchased my car, from the original owner, I noticed an extra license plate sitting on the floor. I asked her what it was for and she said it was the front license plate, but she had never installed it as she did not want to "spoil"
However if you DO want to mount one, the DeLorean Support dealers have a Stainless Steel mount that is sort of L shaped and bolts on under the front bumper area in existing holes...or you could make the same thing of some metal and bend it
When I got my plates, of course the one I wanted was gone (DMC-12). The licensing office gal suggested I might try for the roman numeral of the same....however she said she was not allowed to tell me if it was available...she then typed in
Murray
Vin: 5962 Lic: DMC-XII
Washington State
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<DIV>When I purchased my car, from the original owner, I noticed an extra
license plate sitting on the floor. I asked her what it was for and
she said it was the front license plate, but she had never installed it as she
did not want to "spoil" the looks of her car with it on there and also did
not want to drill any holes! She had gotten away with it (our state
requires a front plate) for about 15 years. I decided to see how long I
could get away with it and have made it for another almost three years. I
understand our state is trying to change the regulation so a front plate will
not be required.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>However if you DO want to mount one, the DeLorean Support dealers have a
Stainless Steel mount that is sort of L shaped and bolts on under the front
bumper area in existing holes...or you could make the same thing of some metal
and bend it to that shape...paint it flat black. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>When I got my plates, of course the one I wanted was gone (DMC-12).
The licensing office gal suggested I might try for the roman numeral of the
same....however she said she was not allowed to tell me if it was
available...she then typed in something to her computer and then turned it so I
could see the screen...nice gal...It WAS available. Otherwise I would have
had to wait quite a while to get the results of her "official query". I
see several who are using that "Vanity Plate" number now but don't claim any
originality to it! FWIW. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Murray</DIV>
<DIV>Vin: 5962 Lic: DMC-XII</DIV>
<DIV>Washington State<BR>I<BR> </DIV>
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Subject: [DML] FRont Logo
Date: 20-Sep-99 12:04:55 -0700
Can someone tell me how to remove the from DMC logo from the "grille". I like the "blackout" looks on the cars I have seen with this removed. Also I would like to find the blackout headlight and parking light covers. Anyone have any ide
Murray
Vin: 5962 Lic: DMC-XII
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<DIV>Can someone tell me how to remove the from DMC logo from the
"grille". I like the "blackout" looks on the cars I have seen with this
removed. Also I would like to find the blackout headlight and parking
light covers. Anyone have any ideas on that also? On the DMC
emblem I have been told by one person they THOUGHT that it was just pressed into
the rubber with little tabs and would pry off fairly easily without leaving
holes that were noticeable...some one else told me different series were mounted
different and some had bolts with fasteners on the revrse side that would be
difficult to get off. Incidentally, it would NOT be for sale". I
liked an old timers thoughts when I asked about putting on the SS letter
covers on the rear and door sills, that he liked it better "dark and mysterious
with no ID! Ha.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Murray</DIV>
<DIV>Vin: 5962 Lic: DMC-XII</DIV>
<DIV>Washington State </DIV>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Driver's door does not latch
Date: 20-Sep-99 15:25:34 -0400
Darrin,
This problem is somewhat complex. Contact us directly for complete details
on how to correct this problem.
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> From: Iznodmad@aol.com
> Subject: [DML] Driver's door does not latch
>
> I have known for a while that my doors are not exactly the best as far as
> lining up correctly and closing properly, but this takes the cake. It
turns
> out that my drivers side door does not latch down at all! I discovered
this
> while driving it this weekend and hitting a large bump, and then hearing
both
> latches rattle. Since I have had the car, I would notice the door coming
> open just a little while driving at higher speeds such that I could look
out
> the back corner and see the road. I have been thinking that the front
latch
> was latching down properly. But tonight after putting the D up for the
> night, I reached to open the door and missed the door handle, but I still
> opened the door! To clarify, I can open the door not even using the
handle,
> just by pulling up on the body moldings! Quite frankly this frightens
me.
> All this time, the door could have come open at highway speeds and then I
> would not have a door. So I guess my question is, what can I do to
adjust
> the latches? I think it has to do with the tension on the door handle.
> Whoever installed the metal door handle updates didn't do too well
putting it
> all back together. It's way too loose!!! I would use the door locks,
but
> the drivers door likes to stay in the locked position. Yes the solonoid
is
> more or less burnt in the lock position. And yes I have disconnected the
> central locking mechanism, but the damage has been done already by the
> previous owner(s).
>
> Thank you,
> Darren Decker
> Vin#5000
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Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel tank mess
Date: 20-Sep-99 12:28:33 -0700
OK, I got all the new parts in the tank and then put pressure on the system.
I removed the air box and pressed on the metal disk and it had no back
pressure. I then tried to start the car, it sputtered and kick some for the
very start but soon would not hit at all. I pulled and cleaned the plugs
and still nothing. So, looks like a stuck fuel distributor the car has set
most of the time. Any way to unstick this thing? any other ideas?
Thanks, Charles
>Don't worry about the fuel lines. What little bit of crud is in them will
>be trapped by the filter. A stuck fuel distributor is only common on
>cars that have sat for a long time. You can tell if its stuck by doing
>the following. Put everything together and start the car, or atleast
>let the fuel pump run long enough to pressurize the system. Then,
>remove the air filter box. In the center of the engine is a round metal
>disk. Try to push it down. IF it goes down very easily, then your
>distributor is probably stuck. If it resist, then its not stuck.
>
>-Brandon
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Subject: [DML] Re: stains on fender
Date: 20-Sep-99 15:31:01 -0400
erik,
I think you have the fender confused with you fascia (bumper).
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> From: delorean502@excite.com
> Subject: [DML] stains on fender
>
> Here in Michigan the front license plate is not required. But the
> previous owner did have one on and i think there are holes in the front
> fender now...i can't remember, its been a while since I looked at my
> Deloreans front (its in the garage waiting repair) is there any way to
> patch up those holes with out getting a new front fender? also, the
> previous owner made it look like the BTTF delorean sometime in the past
> and must have used scotch tape to hold the wires on. now there are
> little take marks on the fender, front and back. Could someone please
> tell me how to remove those stains? that would really help me out a
> lot. thanks
>
> erik geerdink
> 4512
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Forget about it ! The battery is not the cause of your clunking sound. BTW:
the battery will stay in place by gravity unless you flip the car upside
down.
The clunking noise can emanate from two different areas. First check the
trailing arm bolts and bushing fasteners. If they are tight try tightening
your rear body to chassis bolts: Parts Manual 8 /1 / 0 fig. # 4.
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From: Gus Schlachter <gus@clamsouth.com>
: Monday, September 20, 1999 12:00 PM
This reminds me...I had a rear-end "clunk" that I was troubleshooting
(supsension, I think) and went to secure the battery to make sure that
wasn't the problem. However, I couldn't for the life of me figure out how
to accomplish that with the given straps and latch mechanism. Can anyone
possibly explain how to do it over email (i.e., without the benefit of
gestures, illustrations, or other visual aids). It frankly has me baffled.
Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695
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Subject: [DML] Re: gas guage not working
Date: 20-Sep-99 16:17:00 -0400
I had this same problem. My gas gauge was always pointing straight up. I
installed the tankzilla from P J Grady and have had no problems since. The
unit is fairly expensive, but it is well worth the money.
Brian
VIN 1597
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Date: 20-Sep-99 13:37:37 -0700
Within the last week or so, my manual transmission on VIN 2860 has gotten noisy. You know the sound it makes when you drive in reverse? It sounds like that (a little quieter) in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gears. Does this mean the tranny is a
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Date: 20-Sep-99 22:42:17 +0200
I am a French dmc owner (VIN 1807) and I plan to go at Las Vegas for the
limo show from the 6th to the 11th of February 2000. Does anybody would
like to share its apartment or flat during this period ? If yes I can bring
if interested, some parts from the engine (French) for your car. Ex:
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Date: 20-Sep-99 15:54:15 -0500
> now there are
>little tape marks on the fender, front and back. Could someone please
>tell me how to remove those stains? that would really help me out a
>lot.
The best thing to remove this type of gunk from anything is acetone.
(nailpolish remover will do the job too, but it leaves a residue)
Any other ideas?
Kelvin
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Subject: [DML] Re: the "RH Drive Poster"
Date: 20-Sep-99 22:01:02 +0100
All the factory produced euro prototypes had Black interiors (IIRC), with the exception of
Dave Howarth's, formerly owned by JOHN Taylor of Duran Duran (the one in Back From the Future)
which was comissioned especially. So whether this is a genuine photo or not, it's definitely
not factory original.
Martin
Brian Henderlong wrote:
> At 08:11 PM 09/19/1999 -0500, Mark Noeltner wrote:
> >I was looking closely at my copy of the poster that is supposed to show a
> >Right Hand Drive car. Is this really a Right Hand Drive car or did they
> >just reverse the negative?
>
> I have owned a copy of that poster (before my cat destroyed it), and yes,
> I'm pretty sure the negative was reversed. By the way, I wouldn't bid in
> the e-Bay auction for that poster -- it's still being printed, and
> available for sale (for just $2.50 US!) at:
> http://www.ohio.net/~pie1/posters/cars/cars.htm
> I'm not afiliated with them in any way -- just passing along the info.
>
> Enjoy,
> Brian Henderlong / Tampa, FL / DOA# 4977 / No VIN yet...
> mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com
> http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm
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Date: 20-Sep-99 22:06:58 +0100
All IIRC, but there were 12 or so conversions done at a workshop in Andover and not at the
factory - but on comission from DMC. However, the factor carried out firther "euro"
conversions such as the rear tail light cluster and indicators - which stand flush with the
front bumper. As I said previously, the factory conversions all had black interiors with the
one exception - they were all manuals as well, FYI except one, owned by Chris Parnham.
Rhere are a few after-market conversions, done to vaeying degrees of success, and a number of
these live in Australia where it is illegal to drive a LHD car, unlike here in the UK.
<shameless plug> Pictures of three "euro" cars are on my website at
http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk </shameless plug>
Best Wishes,
Martin
Ann & Ed Thompson wrote:
> > Mark Noeltner wrote:
> >
> > I was looking closely at my copy of the poster that is supposed to show a
> > Right Hand Drive car. Is this really a Right Hand Drive car or did they
> > just reverse the negative?
>
> The image on the poster may well be reversed but there were some RH
> drives built. They may have been aftermarket but they were built.
>
> Regards,
> Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
> Midlothian, VA
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Subject: [DML] NCT Tires
Date: 20-Sep-99 15:15:28 -0700
Hi List,
The original tires on the DeLorean were Goodyear NCTs. If memory
serves, Goodyear stopped making that tire. Why exactly is this? About
what year did they discontinue making them? Were the tires on the BTTF
DeLorean NCTs? Thanks.
Ryan Arsenault
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Date: 20-Sep-99 18:38:04 -0400
Try a product called Goo-Gone. Home Depot has it, probably other stores too.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelvin <mason_k@wvwc.edu>
To: dmcnews@egroups.com <dmcnews@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, September 20, 1999 4:38 PM
Subject: [DML] Re: stains on fender
>> now there are
>>little tape marks on the fender, front and back. Could someone please
>>tell me how to remove those stains? that would really help me out a
>>lot.
>
>The best thing to remove this type of gunk from anything is acetone.
>(nailpolish remover will do the job too, but it leaves a residue)
>
>Any other ideas?
>
>
>
>Kelvin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Broken Door Lock?
Date: 20-Sep-99 15:49:59 -0700
Hi-
I have been trouble shooting my newly purchased '81 DeLorean for the past
few days, and happily, I have very few troubles to shoot.
The most noticeable problem I have encountered thus far is the door lock on
the passenger side.
I noticed a 'stiffness' to the locking mechanisms when I purchased the car,
but this did not seem too extraordinary for an 18 year old vehicle. I
applied WD 40 to the 4 locking mechanisms I could get to (front and back
latches of each door), which helped with the overall stiffness, but the
front latch on the passenger side works only sporadically. I can never tell
when the lock is actually going to catch (the Lock Doors light has been
helpful here) but more often than not, the door won't unlock.
Does this sound like a mechanical problem, or an electrical one? I believe
the alignment of the doors is very good, if not perfect, but what's the best
way to tell if this is what is interfering with the lock?
Is a broken door lock something that is fairly easily fixed or replaced?
If anyone has had a similar problem and has solved it, please drop me a
line.
Thanks,
Bob
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Subject: [DML] Re: Spare Keys
Date: 20-Sep-99 18:54:16 -0400
HELLO
ANYBODY WHO NEEDS KEYS MADE, I WENT TO A GREAT LOCKSMITH ON WEISTHEIMER AND
BELT WAY 8. GO EAST ONE BLOCK AND IT IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD FACING
WEISTHEIMER. HE CHARGES 4.00 A KEY AND ALL THREE FIT PERFECTLY..
MIKE LEISING
SUGARLAND TX
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Date: 20-Sep-99 18:56:58 -0400
HELLO
I HAVE MANY FRIENDS WHO ARE COPS AND THERE ARE NOT TO MANY OF THEM WHO WOULD
GIVE A TICKET FOR NO FRONT PLATE..HERE IN
TEXAS A FRONT PLATE IS MANDATORY BUT IF YOU HAVE YOUR INSURANCE AND DRIVER
LICENSE YOU MIGHT GET A WARNING..MOST JUST WANT TO SEE THE INSIDE OF THE D.
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Subject: [DML] Re: stains on fender
Date: 20-Sep-99 19:05:27 -0400
Use paint thinner or benzene or lighter fluid to remove old tape adhesive
residue. These will not melt or destroys the painted or the plastic finish.
Then clean surface with Windex or mild cleaners to remove oily or residual
left.
Acetone will etch, melt or destroy the paint finish and the plastic surfaces.
Be careful when you use acetone! It is not good for plastic and painted
surface. It is good for bare metal and other resistive surfaces. Check
before using on surfaces.
Kayo Ong
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Subject: [DML] Re: Autocross, batteries and CLUNK
Date: 20-Sep-99 18:07:53 -0500
Joe,
You're right, that battery ain't goin' nowhere, but that's not good enough
for autocrossing. I gotta have it nailed down...
Still, the clunk is annoying (if not worrisome) and I had finally decided
that the noise was in the suspension somewhere but didn't take it any
further than that. You've given me a couple of places to look and I'll
check it out. Thanks!
Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DMC Joe
> Subject: [DML] Re: Autocross in St. Louis the weekend
> of the Expo
>
>
> Forget about it ! The battery is not the cause of your clunking sound.
> BTW:
> the battery will stay in place by gravity unless you flip the car upside
> down.
> The clunking noise can emanate from two different areas. First check the
> trailing arm bolts and bushing fasteners. If they are tight try tightening
> your rear body to chassis bolts: Parts Manual 8 /1 / 0 fig. # 4.
> DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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<P><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">You're right, that battery ain't goin' nowhere, but that's not good enough for autocrossing. I gotta have it nailed down...</FONT></P>
<P><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">Still, the clunk is annoying (if not worrisome) and I had finally decided that the noise was in the suspension somewhere but didn't take it any further than that. You've given me a
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<P><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Forget about it ! The battery is not the cause of your clunking sound. BTW:</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">the battery will stay in place by gravity unless you flip the car upside</FONT>
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<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">The clunking noise can emanate from two different areas. First check the</FONT>
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<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">your rear body to chassis bolts: Parts Manual 8 /1 / 0 fig. # 4.</FONT>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Driver's door does not latch
Date: 20-Sep-99 19:08:43 -0400
Okay, I guess I left that bit of info out. Yes, my D does have the big
chunks of stainless, aka door guides. There is not a clunking sound of the
door pin hitting the door guides, so I feel that the door has at least decent
alignment. It looks closed when depressed, unlike my passenger side door. I
can put all my weight on the drivers door, and the latches will not catch.
DMCJoe says he has the answer, I will contact you as soon as I can. If I
left out any other info, please let me know.
Thank you,
Darren Decker
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The DMC Front logos are held on by three posts in the back of the emblem.....sort of at an angle. There might have been some clips that attached to these posts to keep it from comming off.....Someone stole my whole front grill so I don't k
Hope this helps!
Michael Babb
Vin 3472
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From: Murray Fisher
To: DeLorean
Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 1:04 PM
Subject: [DML] FRont Logo
Can someone tell me how to remove the from DMC logo from the "grille". I like the "blackout" looks on the cars I have seen with this removed. Also I would like to find the blackout headlight and parking light covers. Anyone have any i
Murray
Vin: 5962 Lic: DMC-XII
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<DIV><FONT size=2>The DMC Front logos are held on by three posts in the back of
the emblem.....sort of at an angle. There might have been some clips that
attached to these posts to keep it from comming off.....Someone stole my whole
front grill so I don't know for sure. When I got replacements from DMC
Houston, I just bent the posts a little bit to get them to stay. The grill
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<DIV>Can someone tell me how to remove the from DMC logo from the
"grille". I like the "blackout" looks on the cars I have seen with this
removed. Also I would like to find the blackout headlight and parking
light covers. Anyone have any ideas on that also? On the DMC
emblem I have been told by one person they THOUGHT that it was just pressed
into the rubber with little tabs and would pry off fairly easily without
leaving holes that were noticeable...some one else told me different series
were mounted different and some had bolts with fasteners on the revrse side
that would be difficult to get off. Incidentally, it would NOT be for
sale". I liked an old timers thoughts when I asked about putting on
the SS letter covers on the rear and door sills, that he liked it better
"dark and mysterious with no ID! Ha.</DIV>
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<DIV>Murray</DIV>
<DIV>Vin: 5962 Lic: DMC-XII</DIV>
<DIV>Washington State </DIV>
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Date: 20-Sep-99 18:55:10 -0500
Scott wrote:
>The clutch does not seem to be disengaging the engine from the transmission.
The gears grind horribly.<
Scott - how does the clutch pedal feel? It's possible you only need to
bleed the clutch.
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Date: 20-Sep-99 18:59:02 -0500
Efren wrote:
>i was wondering do i have to put the lisece plates in front of my
delorean. if i did i would have to drill hole on the facia is there any
way i could go around that?<
There is a front license plate bracket available from the usual
sources for cars in states that require a front plate. I bought
mine from DMC-1. It attaches to some fasteners already in
the front fascia and keeps the plate away from the lower
radiator air duct. Plus, it's stainless.
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Date: 20-Sep-99 20:02:07 -0400
Look at the tires, (front) you can see that the lettering on the sidewall is
reversed.
Bruce Battles
Vin # 6569
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Subject: [DML] Re: Big suspension Q!
Date: 20-Sep-99 19:03:24 -0500
Chris wrote:
>I'm having a SERIOUS problem with the car "wiggling" at highway speeds. It
feels like both the front and back swing right and left as I go down the
road. It's kind of a slow "floating" and "swaying" feeling.<
Chris - you may have one or more of several things going
on. First, check your tire pressures. Next, check your
front end alignment. While having the alignment checked,
inspect the ball joints and steering rack and ends for excessive
play. Then check the u-joints in the steering column for
excessive play. Any one or a combination of these could
cause wandering at speed.
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Subject: [DML] Re: stains on fender
Date: 20-Sep-99 20:24:45 -0400
No!, No!, No!
I believe the original post said "fender" but should have been "fascia". He
definitely does not want to use the products you mentioned on the fascia.
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> From: Kelvin <mason_k@wvwc.edu>
>
> The best thing to remove this type of gunk from anything is acetone.
> (nailpolish remover will do the job too, but it leaves a residue)
>
> Any other ideas?
>
>
>
> Kelvin
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Subject: [DML] Re: Noisy manual transmission
Date: 20-Sep-99 20:29:31 -0400
The DeLorean manual transmission should last at least 150K with no
problems. First thing to check is the gear oil level in the trans. (see
F:03:01) in the Work Shop Manual.
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From: Ace Underhill <luuke@primenet.com>
Subject: [DML] Noisy manual transmission
Within the last week or so, my manual transmission on VIN 2860 has gotten
noisy. You know the sound it makes when you drive in reverse? It sounds
like that (a little quieter) in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gears. Does this
mean the tranny is about to go? I have less than 50K miles.
-Ace Underhill-
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Subject: [DML] Re: Driver's door does not latch
Date: 20-Sep-99 20:30:29 -0400
The Vin break out for the door guides is between 1100 and 3000.
Bulletin ST-14-9/81 Attachment P-6.
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> From: Mike Substelny <msubstel@lorainccc.edu>
> Subject: [DML] Re: Driver's door does not latch
>> Iznodmad@aol.com wrote:
>
> > . . . . It turns out that my drivers side door does not latch down at
all!
>
> Perhaps the DML needs a primer to help people get prompt, useful
responses to their
> questions. In Iznodmad's case, the primer should have warned him to
mention the condition of
> his door guides. My experience is that the DeLorean door design works
very well, provided the
> doors have door guides.
>
> If the doors have no guides, or the guides were added after years of use
without them, then
> all sorts of nasty things could have happened to your latches. You may
need new ones.
>
> I thought that by the time VIN 5000 came along door guides were standard
factory equipment,
> but I could be wrong. Regardless, anyone having trouble with their door
latch mechanism will
> get a quicker answer if they mention their door guides (or lack thereof)
in their post.
>
> If you don't even know what door guides are, go to the dmcnews.com
website and search the back
> issues. It's a lot faster than asking online, and it's guaranteed to
give you an answer.
>
> - Mike Substelny
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Subject: [DML] Re: the "RH Drive Poster"
Date: 20-Sep-99 20:36:40 -0400
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At 08:08 PM 09/20/1999, Vicky Miller <delo1@mindspring.com> wrote:
>thanx for that information pal you just put all my hard work in the can.
>hope i can return the favor. vicky
Hi, Vicky --
I'm not sure what you mean... did I save you some work, or did I destroy
some work that you did? If you were the seller of the poster, fear not --
there are still millions of DeLorean fans out there who don't know that the
poster is still being sold.
Besides, anyone who takes the trouble to search for the word "poster" in
the DML archives will discover that this particular poster has been
mentioned several times in the past.
Good luck,
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Subject: [DML] Re: Question about the "RH Drive Poster"
Date: 20-Sep-99 20:47:26 -0400
If there have been any other conversions to right hand drive, then I do not
see a problem with also converting the wipers....
Good Luck
Dave Loffler
Johnston, RI
VIN---JUST DREAMING
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Subject: [DML] Re: FRont Logo
Date: 20-Sep-99 20:48:17 -0400
The front DMC logo is attached by 3 spire fix fasteners (speed nuts) that
are accessed by removing the front grill. To remove; pry off the grill by
the grill
which is held in place by 4 to 8 ball stud fasteners depending on your Vin.
number.
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From: Murray Fisher <murrayf@innw.net>
Subject: [DML] FRont Logo
Can someone tell me how to remove the from DMC logo from the "grille". I
like the "blackout" looks on the cars I have seen with this removed. Also
I would like to find the blackout headlight and parking light covers.
Anyone have any ideas on that also? On the DMC emblem I have been told by
one person they THOUGHT that it was just pressed into the rubber with
little tabs and would pry off fairly easily without leaving holes that were
noticeable...some one else told me different series were mounted different
and some had bolts with fasteners on the revrse side that would be
difficult to get off. Incidentally, it would NOT be for sale". I liked an
old timers thoughts when I asked about putting on the SS letter covers on
the rear and door sills, that he liked it better "dark and mysterious with
no ID! Ha.
Murray
Vin: 5962 Lic: DMC-XII
Washington State
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Subject: [DML] Re: stains on fender
Date: 20-Sep-99 20:32:18 -0700
The best product to use to remove tape residue is a 3M General Purpose Adhesive Cleaner 08984
Part No. 051135
Larry
16111
Kelvin wrote:
> > now there are
> >little tape marks on the fender, front and back. Could someone please
> >tell me how to remove those stains? that would really help me out a
> >lot.
>
> The best thing to remove this type of gunk from anything is acetone.
> (nailpolish remover will do the job too, but it leaves a residue)
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Kelvin
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Subject: [DML] Re: Noisy manual transmission
Date: 20-Sep-99 20:40:27 -0700
You probably have already done this, but have you checked the the trans
fluid level. However, if you have run it dry, at the very least your
bearing are gone. Make sure you use the proper weight gear lube. Red
Line Oil makes a synthetic gear lube which I use on my race car that is
terrific.
Ace Underhill wrote:
> Within the last week or so, my manual transmission on VIN 2860 has
> gotten noisy. You know the sound it makes when you drive in reverse?
> It sounds like that (a little quieter) in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd
> gears. Does this mean the tranny is about to go? I have less than
> 50K miles. -Ace Underhill-
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Subject: [DML] Re: Owners check list, not for the car, but you!
Date: 20-Sep-99 21:00:27 -0700
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ive09-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=3258
> How could you be a DeLorean owner since 1980? The first cars sold
from production were in 1981 as we all know.
>
> Vin 5588
Meaning combined (the Bricklin ownership),followed by the Delorean
ownership,I bought my Bricklin in early 1980.First Delorean in 1981.
Claude
000570
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Subject: [DML] DMC Joe...
Date: 20-Sep-99 22:25:23 -0600
I have learnt so much from this list since joining and taking everthing on
board so as I can apply the knowledge when called upon. This won't happen
yet as I am still a little while off from owning a DMC-12.
I would like to say a special comment in regards to DMC JOE and I am sure
EVERYONE on the list is behind me on this....
DMC Joe, no matter how busy you are, you always make time to help out on the
list. Is there anything you don't know about DMC's???? My guess would be
no.
I would like to be say a B I G thankyou to you for all the advice that you
are giving out and hope that you will be still helping out in the years to
come.....
Joe since on your site you suggest that turbo's can be fitted, could you
give me the low down on cost fitted?
Is there a great deal of power difference between the single and twin-turbo
versions?
At what RPM does the turbo(s) kick in?
Over-heating a problem?
What is the total Horsepower increase?
MPG before and after fitting to a 5-speed?
Are superchargers a possibility as no Lag?
Many thanks
Christopher M. Hawes
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Subject: [DML] Weight problem???
Date: 20-Sep-99 22:29:17 -0600
I know that the DMC-12 is supposed to weigh in at 2712.6 ibs
This is a little general as I would expect the auto to weigh a little more?
Some say that the DMC is heavy. Well I don't think so.
The Porsche 928 is over 3600 ibs and the Fiero, a small GM effort is very
similar I believe to the DMC-12 in weight.
What are your feelings about your cars, do they feel heavy?
Are they Corner Carvers???
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Subject: [DML] Standalone DMC-12
Date: 20-Sep-99 22:35:40 -0600
This is a subject that has been on my mind a lot lately.
How many of you owners out there on the list do NOT keep your car reguarly
garaged?
Do you feel safe leaving your car out on the street?
After all the car usually draws admiring glances.
I remember one owner had his D stolen from his DMC emblem on the grill. I
reckon that was probably sliced off with a kraft knife or something as
nothing else was reported broken or missing...
I suppose a few bits of trim may be taken but luckily the Delorean is pretty
solid and whole and lacks ornatmental gubbins that are stuck on just for
show....
The reason I ask this is that it will take longer to buy a DMC if I have to
find a home with a garage first.
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Subject: [DML] Re: stains on fender
Date: 21-Sep-99 0:37:34 -0400
In a message dated 9/20/99 2:10:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
delorean502@excite.com writes:
<< now there are
little take marks on the fender, front and back. Could someone please
tell me how to remove those stains? that would really help me out a
lot. thanks >>
Hey Erik,
When the window on my car was out and i had a piece of plastic covering it
I had tape on it to hold it there and when the time came to remove the tape I
also got those stupid tape stain things. I used regular rubbing alcohol in a
napkin and it worked great, but you have to use it fast because it drys very
very fast so pour it on and rub FAST!!! Hope this helps some.
Later,
Nick
VIN#1852...for sale e-mail for info
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Date: 21-Sep-99 0:50:50 -0400
In a message dated 9/20/99 4:40:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DMCJOE@att.net
writes:
This should not be difficult to troubleshoot; first of all, have you
checked your clutch fluid level ?
From: Scott Mueller <scottmueller@zebra.net>
<< There is plenty of fluid in the reservoir >>
DMC Joe...didn't Scott already say he had enough clutch fluit in the master
cylinder?
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Date: 21-Sep-99 1:27:50 -0400
Try a product called GelGloss. You can probably get it at a Home Depot or
similar place. It'll take off permanent marker too. Get the liquid not the
spray. I think I'd try nail polish remover first, as previously suggested,
since it requires less rubbing.
- Wayne
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Subject: [DML] Re: Custom DMC keychains
Date: 21-Sep-99 7:29:31 +0000
I just received the custom DMC key chain and tire valve stem covers.
They are excellent quality and really outstanding. I'm going to order
another set.
Dr. Bob
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Subject: [DML] KEYS
Date: 21-Sep-99 5:43:18 -0700
Don't waste your money going to a locksmith, go to Home Depot. I have had two
keys made at Home Depot and both work great. I think I paid a little over a
dollar. The key # ilco V073 X29. Thanks to Travis Graham for the info.
Kirk Brandon
Vin#02378(stainless)-10246(Blue)
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Subject: [DML] Re: dmc plates in front
Date: 21-Sep-99 15:45:13 +0200
Dear Mike,
Please don't use capitals in your postings - this has the same effect as
shouting when you're next to one another.
Yours,
Rob van der Veer.
VIN 3695
-----Original Message-----
From: Police6627@aol.com [mailto:Police6627@aol.com]
Sent: dinsdag 21 september 1999 0:57
To: dmcnews@egroups.com
Subject: [DML] Re: dmc plates in front
HELLO
I HAVE MANY FRIENDS WHO ARE COPS AND THERE ARE NOT TO MANY OF THEM WHO WOULD
GIVE A TICKET FOR NO FRONT PLATE..HERE IN
TEXAS A FRONT PLATE IS MANDATORY BUT IF YOU HAVE YOUR INSURANCE AND DRIVER
LICENSE YOU MIGHT GET A WARNING..MOST JUST WANT TO SEE THE INSIDE OF THE D.
MIKE LEISING
SUGARLAND TX
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Date: 21-Sep-99 10:25:39 -0400
In a message dated 9/21/99 9:42:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, NJP548@aol.com
writes:
<< In a message dated 9/20/99 4:40:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
DMCJOE@att.net
writes:
This should not be difficult to troubleshoot; first of all, have you
checked your clutch fluid level ?
From: Scott Mueller <scottmueller@zebra.net>
<< There is plenty of fluid in the reservoir >>
DMC Joe...didn't Scott already say he had enough clutch fluid in the master
cylinder?
>>
no no, gear oil is inside the tranny,vs, clutch fluid is only in the clutch
master cylinder that goes thru the line (plastic or stainless line) to the
slave cylinder that activates the clutch fork.
Claude
vin#06383
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Subject: [DML] Re: NCT Tires
Date: 21-Sep-99 7:31:49 -0700
>Hi List,
>
> The original tires on the DeLorean were Goodyear NCTs. If memory
>serves, Goodyear stopped making that tire. Why exactly is this? About
>what year did they discontinue making them? Were the tires on the BTTF
>DeLorean NCTs? Thanks.
>
>Ryan Arsenault
Something else I would like to know, at the Nashville meet a few years back
I spoke to some people who had NCTs from Europe they were not exact but
still for sale new at that point.
Charles
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Date: 21-Sep-99 8:27:21 -0700
In-reply-to: <00EE01BF03B8CE7B>0de0$3b530a3f
I'm sorry, I posted the wrong my message wrong. I have stains on the
fascia, not the fender. due to long boring days at work, my brain
melted for a second and I wronte the wrong word. could someone suggest
a product to remove stains on the fascia? thanks and sorry for my
stupidity :)
Erik Geerdink
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Subject: [DML] Re: NCT Tires
Date: 21-Sep-99 8:30:40 -0700
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rybet-@flash.net wrote:
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> Hi List,
>
> The original tires on the DeLorean were Goodyear NCTs. If memory
> serves, Goodyear stopped making that tire. Why exactly is this? About
Hello All,
Goodyear still has a valid part number on a v speed rated P235/60R16
although the last time I checked, it was not being produced. I beleave
it was being used on the Lotus Esprit. The P195/60R14 NCT tire is no
longer being produced.
Andrew
4194
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Subject: [DML] People in the know and people who don't know (a damn thing)
Date: 21-Sep-99 11:37:04 -0400
<< In a message dated 9/20/99 10:12:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
impact.auto@airmail.net writes:
<< WOW - a Delorean owner since 1980. Seriously - though - VISION?? JZD??
Malcom Bricklin??? You
can say that in the same context of the Wright Bros and Henry As far as
JZD, - well he just screwed up.
Here's a final thought for you - if the Delorean is such a "mechanical
wonder" why do you
compare it to a "mid 80's Lotus Esprit" (same for Bricklin) - shouldn't the
standard be the
Bricklin and/or Delorean.
Steve #10688 >>
I guess some people can't figure out simple things,my meaning of saying a B
and D
owner since 1980 meant that I have owned a Bricklin since 1980,and a
Delorean
since the beginning (1981)Also Mal.Bricklin did not build the Yugo,he was
the
legalized sole importer,as he was for the Suburu,also the reason I said the
Lotus esprit,is because anybody that knows anything about Deloreans,knows
that Lotus engineering did the total engineering on the Delorean,they
started
with a clean sheet of paper,using the basic concepts from the lotus
esprit,look at a Lotus Esprit frame layout and suspension layout and you
will
see that they are the same basic concepts,in fact some of the parts from a
Lotus Esprit will fit/bolt on directly on the Delorean.
Claude
Bricklin owner since 1980 (2 Cars)
Delorean owner since 1981(4 cars + 2 parts cars)
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Subject: [DML] Front Plates
Date: 21-Sep-99 9:01:05 -0700
Further to this discussion: I suspect that even in states that require
front plates the level of enforcement depends greatly upon the officer you
encounter. Another factor is the amount of use of laser detectors in you
area. They are aimed at the front plate and, of course, if you don't have
one, you irritate the cop who is trying to test your speed.
The aftermarket license plate holder that is available is a very good piece
of equipment. It postitions your plate dead center, right to left and top
to bottom of the front fascia. While I don't care for front plates, the
car looks pretty good with this holder.
When I go to car shows, I remove the front plate (not the holder) and
substitue the "DMC" plate. Looks great. However, once I was returning
from a show and I had forgotten to replace the "DMC" plate with the regular
Colorado plate and I was stopped by an Utah HP because he couldn't figure
out what state the plate represented. Needless to say, it soon became
obvious that he really wanted an up front look at a DeLorean. I
accomodated him and after a nice chat we parted without a ticket or a
warning.
BTW, so as to make the holder inconspicuous, I got the Black stainless
steel (PJ GRADY). You'd swear that the front plate is floating right in
front of the bumper.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Subject: [DML] Re: stains on fender
Date: 21-Sep-99 12:14:21 -0400
The tape marks that the original post refereed to were left from filament
tape that was used to attach Styrofoam protection cushions at the factory.
Thousands of DeLoreans were stored at the factory and the QAC centers with
this tape exposed to the sun for an extended period of time (several
months). This condition caused the glue in the tape to etch its foot print
in the final fascia finish, therefore these marks cannot be removed.
Refinishing the fascia is the only solution.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: Larry Cravalho <larry001@flash.net>
> Subject: [DML] Re: stains on fender
>
> The best product to use to remove tape residue is a 3M General Purpose
Adhesive Cleaner 08984
> Part No. 051135
>
> Larry
> 16111
>
> Kelvin wrote:
>
> > > now there are
> > >little tape marks on the fender (fascia), front and back. Could
someone please
> > >tell me how to remove those stains? that would really help me out a
> > >lot.
> >
> > The best thing to remove this type of gunk from anything is acetone.
> > (nailpolish remover will do the job too, but it leaves a residue)
> >
> > Any other ideas?
> >
> > Kelvin
> >
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Subject: [DML] Re: Noisy manual transmission
Date: 21-Sep-99 10:07:21 -0700
I'd drain the trans into a clean pan and look for metal particles with a
magnet. Make sure you refill with the correct grade of fluid. Castrol
makes an EP fluid with the correct MILSPEC.
Steve brodsky #10688
Ace Underhill wrote:
> Within the last week or so, my manual transmission on VIN 2860 has
> gotten noisy.á You know the sound it makes when you drive in reverse?á
> It sounds like that (a little quieter) in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd
> gears.á Does this mean the tranny is about to go?á I have less than
> 50K miles.ááááááááááá -Ace Underhill-
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with a magnet. Make sure you refill with the correct grade of fluid. Castrol
makes an EP fluid with the correct MILSPEC.
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<P>Ace Underhill wrote:
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<FONT SIZE=-1>Within the last week
or so, my manual transmission on VIN 2860 has gotten noisy. You know
the sound it makes when you drive in reverse? It sounds like that
(a little quieter) in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gears. Does this mean
the tranny is about to go? I have less than 50K miles.</FONT> <FONT SIZE=-1>
-Ace Underhill-</FONT>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Owners check list, not for the car, but you!
Date: 21-Sep-99 10:27:36 -0700
Maybe you can enlighten us as to the great dream of JZD for which we should all be greatful.
I'm not going to be your shrink, but your love affair with an inanimate object could be
dangerous, at least painful. I'm not sorry if I am rude - I resent all the Marty McFly
wannabes who think the doors should go whoosh when they are raised, and whose big thrill is
going 88mph. These people cannot afford to maintain this car and do NOT "love" their car nor
respect it for its investment value. They only end up creating a market for used parts.
If you REALLY want to give someone credit for the D, try Stephen Wynne - he's put his ass on
the line so that we can enjoy our toys - and if you don't know who Stephen is, I suggest you
read more and talk less.
And BTW, my car run fine - just wanted to let you know.
Steve Brodsky #10688
delorean502@excite.com wrote:
> Steve, you obviously have some issues with the Delorean that need to be
> worked out.á Maybe you should sell your Delorean if you do not like it.
> áGive it a good home.á Not a home where it is not loved.á JZD DID have
> a vision.á and I think he did a good job in creating that vision.á I
> don't know anything about Bricklins execpt that I heard they leak so I
> wont get into that.á Please don't post such critisizing messages about
> a car that the majority love and have had a longing for for years.
> that is very rude.á I would never consider saying something bad about
> someone elses dream.á true, the delorean has it's flaws and thats why
> this list is here.á when was the last time someone posted a message
> saying "well, my car still runs perfectly...just wanted to let everyone
> know"á the list is here for mechanical advise not bashing the Delorean.
> áthanks
>
> Erik Geerdink
> VERY Proud owner of 4512
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Subject: [DML] Re: Weight problem???
Date: 21-Sep-99 13:42:24 -0400
In-reply-to: <19990920212917>.77044.qmail
On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Christopher Hawes wrote:
> Some say that the DMC is heavy. Well I don't think so.
They say that, but it isn't really. It was originally supposed to weigh
in at around 2200 pounds, so when it came in at 2700 it was considered
'heavy'.
By the standards of 1981, 2700 pounds was kind of heavy. There were lots
of small sports cars around then. The 280Z and the RX-7 of the time
weighed 2200, approximately.
See if you can find a review of the '93+ RX-7. All the reviewers marvel
at the light weight of the car. A base model RX-7 weighs 2760 pounds.
> The Porsche 928 is over 3600 ibs and the Fiero, a small GM effort is very
> similar I believe to the DMC-12 in weight.
I think the Fiero is less, though I don't know by how much. Based purely
on size I'd estimate about 2400.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Broken Door Lock?
Date: 21-Sep-99 13:45:07 -0400
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On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, King, Bob wrote:
> but this did not seem too extraordinary for an 18 year old vehicle. I
> applied WD 40 to the 4 locking mechanisms I could get to (front and back
> latches of each door), which helped with the overall stiffness, but the
Although this probably won't solve your problem, I'd like to recommend the
use of graphite lubricating stuff. They make it specifically for
lubricating locks and other small mechanical devices. WD-40 is not really
a very good oil (it is more solvent than lubricant) and will not hold up
on the long term.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Driver's door does not latch
Date: 21-Sep-99 10:59:18 -0700
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This may not help but I'll tell it anyway. My passenger side door
would clunk when ever you opened it and closed it, like it was miss
aligned. I looked at the door guides and saw that the plastic by the
door lock on the door broke and the metal pin that latches the door
down was catching in the hole where the plastic was. i took the door
guide off and it wouldnt clunk anymore, so i just filed down the door
guide a bit and now it works perfectly! the door never sounded so
good. now if i could only drive the car before winter!! (damn fuel
problem!)
Erik Geerdink
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Subject: [DML] Re: Autocross in St. Louis the weekend of the Expo
Date: 21-Sep-99 11:11:25 -0700
I also have a "clunking" sound as I go around corners in the rear of my
D. I was told that this sound can be caused by worn out hub bearings.
But I have not had them fixed yet to support this hypothesis.
Gary V.
Pleasanton,Ca.
Vin# 5480
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> From: Gus Schlachter <gus@clamsouth.com>
> : Monday, September 20, 1999 12:00 PM
>
> This reminds me...I had a rear-end "clunk" that I was troubleshooting
> (supsension, I think) and went to secure the battery to make sure that
> wasn't the problem. However, I couldn't for the life of me figure out how
> to accomplish that with the given straps and latch mechanism. Can anyone
> possibly explain how to do it over email (i.e., without the benefit of
> gestures, illustrations, or other visual aids). It frankly has me baffled.
>
> Gus Schlachter
> Austin, TX
> VIN# 4695
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: NCT Tires
Date: 21-Sep-99 11:18:13 -0700
I was told by a DMC owner @ the Auburn, IN auction that the NCT's are
available from Coker(sp?) in Nashville, TN. He obtained his from them not
all that long ago. Any further info. on this? Robert VIN 6924
>From: rybeth@flash.net
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>Subject: [DML] NCT Tires
>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:15:28 -0700
>
>Hi List,
>
> The original tires on the DeLorean were Goodyear NCTs. If memory
>serves, Goodyear stopped making that tire. Why exactly is this? About
>what year did they discontinue making them? Were the tires on the BTTF
>DeLorean NCTs? Thanks.
>
>Ryan Arsenault
>
>
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Subject: [DML] New Subscriber
Date: 21-Sep-99 15:18:42 -0400
Hey all! Greetings!
I just subscribed to the DML and wanted to introduce myself. My name's
Jacen R. Lance, and I'm from Maui, HI. 18, and have loved DeLoreans since
(and I'm not gonna lie) I saw BTTF for the first time. My love was further
enhanced when I first saw one up close at a local mall where they were having
a contest and you could win one. I sat in it, looked around...and knew I
wanted one. They're such unique and extraordinary cars.
I don't know much about them though...don't really know anything at all.
A lot of it is a mystery to me, and I have recently found the time (although
that's a lie...more like making time) to try and do some research on these
fascinating cars. But for now, any information any of you would like to
share would be greatly appreciated. Since I am at the moment looking to buy
one, I would like to know what a perspective buyer should know.
Also, are there any of you DMC enthusiasts in Hawaii? Specifically Maui?
And would anyone know if there is a D for sale in this area? One with low
mileage is preferable.
Well, I'm glad to have joined this group, and I'm sure I'll get a lot
from it! Aloha!
Jacen R. Lance
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Subject: [DML] A dream come true
Date: 21-Sep-99 16:16:29 -0400
As of Friday, September 17th, I joined the ranks of the proud DeLorean
owners of the world. A lifelong dream has now been fulfilled. I just wanted
to broadcast my joy to the people I knew would understand!!
Scott Cagle
vin# 16738
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Subject: [DML] Re: People in the know and people who don't know (no no no)
Date: 21-Sep-99 15:56:12 -0500
Hey, I bet we can all agree that the trademark gull-wing doors constitute a
"mechanical marvel." Well, except for the latching mechanism that everyone
seems to be having trouble with lately. And the electric locks weren't
exactly engineered by NASA. Hmm, and those windows....
But how 'bout them cryogenic torsion bars?! Those are way cool!
Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695
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<P><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">Hey, I bet we can all agree that the trademark gull-wing doors constitute a "mechanical marvel." Well, except for the latching mechanism that everyone seems to be having
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Subject: [DML] car alarm for DMC?
Date: 21-Sep-99 14:08:14 -0700
Hi, all-
Do the gull wing doors cause any significant problems when trying to
install a car alarm? Most car alarm specialty places I have called haven't
installed into a DMC-12, but assume that everything will go without a hitch.
I have no doubt that they *believe* they can do it, but I am sending out
feelers to find out if anyone has had problems with the installation of a
car alarm.
On the same note, if anyone knows of a place that has experience with car
alarms in a DMC-12 in Northern California, please let me know.
Also, any suggestions for a type/brand of alarm for a Delorean would be
appreciated.
Thanks
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Subject: [DML] New Delorean owner!
Date: 21-Sep-99 14:26:18 -0700
Hi folks!
My name is Bob, and I just bought a 1981 DMC-12 on Thursday night (Sept
16th). VIN #2100
I've never strung the following words together in a sentence before, but I
can now say with all sincerity:
"I LOVE MY CAR!"
One of the best investments I've ever made. Sure, it has it's minor flaws,
but I accept the responsibility of taking care of this work of art and
welcome this beautiful machine into the family. I am truly a proud owner.
I look forward to exchanging questions and ideas with the group.
See you on the road!
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Subject: [DML] Re: Standalone DMC-12
Date: 21-Sep-99 17:46:31 -0400
In a message dated 9/21/99 8:27:22 AM Central Daylight Time,
cmhdevelopment@hotmail.com writes:
<< How many of you owners out there on the list do NOT keep your car reguarly
garaged? >>
I am probably in the minority here but my DeLorean sits outside 24 hours a
day 7 days a week (unless we have an indoor car show). I have experienced no
problems at all. I always have a sun shade in the window and it is covered
whenever possible. I have had some people knock on my door and ask to look at
it but that's it.
I believe most people garage them because low cost, collector insurance
usually requires it.
My 1 & 1/2 cents.
Dave
VIN 5524
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Subject: [DML] Re: car alarm for DMC?
Date: 21-Sep-99 16:57:43 -0500
One of the previous owners of my D put in an Alpine alarm system many years
ago. It works fine for locking/unlocking the doors, and it will scream
bloody murder if jolted. I don't know how hard it was to install, but I do
know that there is an abundance of extracurricular wiring in my relay
compartment, some of which is even labeled. :-) I think the problem
installing a new alarm is trying to figure out the Lucas electricals, and
even a wiring diagram may not help.
Personally, I want the James Bond Security System (i.e., thief removes "DMC"
logo from grill, car blows up.)
Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695
> -----Original Message-----
> From: King, Bob
> Subject: [DML] car alarm for DMC?
>
>
> Hi, all-
>
> Do the gull wing doors cause any significant problems when trying to
> install a car alarm? Most car alarm specialty places I have called
> haven't
> installed into a DMC-12, but assume that everything will go without a
> hitch.
> I have no doubt that they *believe* they can do it, but I am sending out
> feelers to find out if anyone has had problems with the installation of a
> car alarm.
>
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<P><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">One of the previous owners of my D put in an Alpine alarm system many years ago. It works fine for locking/unlocking the doors, and it will scream bloody murder if jolted. I
<P><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">Personally, I want the James Bond Security System (i.e., thief removes "DMC" logo from grill, car blows up.)</FONT>
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Subject: [DML] Re: stains on fender
Date: 21-Sep-99 17:04:51 -0500
>I'm sorry, I posted the wrong my message wrong. I have stains on the
>fascia, not the fender. due to long boring days at work, my brain
>melted for a second and I wronte the wrong word. could someone suggest
>a product to remove stains on the fascia? thanks and sorry for my
>stupidity :)
>
>Erik Geerdink
Ok, this changes everything! Now I would recommend rubbing alchohol as
the cheapest safest bet. Get it in the drug store for 89 cents.
Kelvin
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Date: 21-Sep-99 17:10:40 -0500
Jacen,
The best information you can receive simply by reading this list. You will
learn a great deal in a short amount of time. If you need more reasons to
buy the car, I strongly recommend Gus Schlachter's Top Ten List.
Jake
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> Hey all! Greetings!
> I just subscribed to the DML and wanted to introduce myself. My
name's
> Jacen R. Lance, and I'm from Maui, HI. 18, and have loved DeLoreans since
> (and I'm not gonna lie) I saw BTTF for the first time. My love was
further
> enhanced when I first saw one up close at a local mall where they were
having
> a contest and you could win one. I sat in it, looked around...and knew I
> wanted one. They're such unique and extraordinary cars.
> I don't know much about them though...don't really know anything at
all.
> A lot of it is a mystery to me, and I have recently found the time
(although
> that's a lie...more like making time) to try and do some research on these
> fascinating cars. But for now, any information any of you would like to
> share would be greatly appreciated. Since I am at the moment looking to
buy
> one, I would like to know what a perspective buyer should know.
<snip>
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Subject: [DML] windex??
Date: 21-Sep-99 18:16:30 -0400
it was suggested to me, by a fellow delorean enthusiast that windex would
remove fingerprints, quite nicely...
will this harm my vehicle?
:)
mike cutting
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Subject: [DML] Re: NCT Tires
Date: 21-Sep-99 19:10:21 -0400
In a message dated 9/21/99 4:11:56 PM Central Daylight Time,
SteveDMC@i-55.com writes:
<< The sets of tires that were show in BTTF were goodyear NTCs
Note to moderator, If my post does not make the list then perhaps I
shouldn't have seen the message i am replying to.
Were the tires on the BTTF
> DeLorean NCTs? Thanks. >>
I don't wish to dwell on the subject, but I do hope this gets posted. The
tires on the DeLorean Time Machine ARE NOT Goodyear NCT's. They are in fact
Goodyear Eagle GT's.
Doubt me? Check for yourself (preferably before you try to answer someones
question) by watching the first movie. As the DeLorean is being operated by
remote control there is a scene where the rear end of the car slides towards
the camera. If you read it fast (or pause the movie) you will notice that I
am correct.
If you have any questions please feel free to ask, and to everyone out there:
No matter how simple or unimportant the question is, lets try to get correct
info out there. Thanks!
Dave
VIN 5524
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I have had my DeLorean about three years, and it has lived outside for all three of those years (part of the time in a car port....all of the time at apartment complexes). The only real problem I have had with it being out year round is pe
I did have the front grill stolen off of my car and the radio ripped out.....but I blame myself for having to leave it at work overnight (and I guess I forgot to set the alarm). At least they were nice enough to completely reclose the door
That is the only time I have had problems...never when parked at a residence.....even in questionable areas
Michael Babb
VIN 3472
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To: dmcnews@egroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 4:35 PM
Subject: [DML] Standalone DMC-12
This is a subject that has been on my mind a lot lately.
How many of you owners out there on the list do NOT keep your car reguarly
garaged?
Do you feel safe leaving your car out on the street?
After all the car usually draws admiring glances.
I remember one owner had his D stolen from his DMC emblem on the grill. I
reckon that was probably sliced off with a kraft knife or something as
nothing else was reported broken or missing...
I suppose a few bits of trim may be taken but luckily the Delorean is pretty
solid and whole and lacks ornatmental gubbins that are stuck on just for
show....
The reason I ask this is that it will take longer to buy a DMC if I have to
find a home with a garage first.
Christopher M. Hawes
DMD (Delorean Model Dealership)
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<DIV>I have had my DeLorean about three years, and it has lived outside for all
three of those years (part of the time in a car port....all of the time at
apartment complexes). The only real problem I have had with it being out
year round is people wanting to touch the Stainless Steel. Usually not a
problem, but when the car is dusty, and they run their fingers over it, you can
get scratches.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I did have the front grill stolen off of my car and the radio ripped
out.....but I blame myself for having to leave it at work overnight (and I guess
I forgot to set the alarm). At least they were nice enough to completely
reclose the doors after poking around. (nothing else taken from the car
(even the CD's, $500 camera, and other "goodies").</DIV>
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<DIV>That is the only time I have had problems...never when parked at a
residence.....even in questionable areas</DIV>
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<DIV>VIN 3472</DIV>
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<TD><PRE>This is a subject that has been on my mind a lot lately.
How many of you owners out there on the list do NOT keep your car reguarly
garaged?
Do you feel safe leaving your car out on the street?
After all the car usually draws admiring glances.
I remember one owner had his D stolen from his DMC emblem on the grill. I
reckon that was probably sliced off with a kraft knife or something as
nothing else was reported broken or missing...
I suppose a few bits of trim may be taken but luckily the Delorean is pretty
solid and whole and lacks ornatmental gubbins that are stuck on just for
show....
The reason I ask this is that it will take longer to buy a DMC if I have to
find a home with a garage first.
Christopher M. Hawes
DMD (Delorean Model Dealership)
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Date: 21-Sep-99 17:45:41 -0600
I usually have problems with the passenger side door lock when I have had a passenger (they seem to be afraid to close the door all the way). If the door is not latched all the way, the lock will only go about half way (and stay there). I
Michael Babb
VIN 3472
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Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 4:49 PM
Subject: [DML] Broken Door Lock?
Hi-
I have been trouble shooting my newly purchased '81 DeLorean for the past
few days, and happily, I have very few troubles to shoot.
The most noticeable problem I have encountered thus far is the door lock on
the passenger side.
I noticed a 'stiffness' to the locking mechanisms when I purchased the car,
but this did not seem too extraordinary for an 18 year old vehicle. I
applied WD 40 to the 4 locking mechanisms I could get to (front and back
latches of each door), which helped with the overall stiffness, but the
front latch on the passenger side works only sporadically. I can never tell
when the lock is actually going to catch (the Lock Doors light has been
helpful here) but more often than not, the door won't unlock.
Does this sound like a mechanical problem, or an electrical one? I believe
the alignment of the doors is very good, if not perfect, but what's the best
way to tell if this is what is interfering with the lock?
Is a broken door lock something that is fairly easily fixed or replaced?
If anyone has had a similar problem and has solved it, please drop me a
line.
Thanks,
Bob
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<DIV>I usually have problems with the passenger side door lock when I have had a
passenger (they seem to be afraid to close the door all the way). If the
door is not latched all the way, the lock will only go about half way (and stay
there). I then have to crawl in, lean over the console, and rock the lock
back to the "unlock" position. after opening and reclosing the door again,
everything is then OK. I would think that the same would occure of the
door alignment os off.</DIV>
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<DIV>VIN 3472</DIV>
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<TD><PRE>Hi-
I have been trouble shooting my newly purchased '81 DeLorean for the past
few days, and happily, I have very few troubles to shoot.
The most noticeable problem I have encountered thus far is the door lock on
the passenger side.
I noticed a 'stiffness' to the locking mechanisms when I purchased the car,
but this did not seem too extraordinary for an 18 year old vehicle. I
applied WD 40 to the 4 locking mechanisms I could get to (front and back
latches of each door), which helped with the overall stiffness, but the
front latch on the passenger side works only sporadically. I can never tell
when the lock is actually going to catch (the Lock Doors light has been
helpful here) but more often than not, the door won't unlock.
Does this sound like a mechanical problem, or an electrical one? I believe
the alignment of the doors is very good, if not perfect, but what's the best
way to tell if this is what is interfering with the lock?
Is a broken door lock something that is fairly easily fixed or replaced?
If anyone has had a similar problem and has solved it, please drop me a
line.
Thanks,
Bob
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Subject: [DML] Re: Clutch not releasing
Date: 21-Sep-99 19:08:47 -0500
Thanks to all for your suggestions on solving the "stuck" clutch problem.
As you may recall, it appeared that the clutch was not disengaging the
flywheel from the transmission.
A friend at work suggested that I try placing the transmission in reverse
while the engine was off. Then, I depressed the clutch peddle to disengage
the clutch while cranking the engine. When I first tried to crank the
engine the car lept backwards. I tried again and the clutch disengaged and
the engine started. I ran out of time tonight to try and drive the car, but
it seems to be OK.
Now, I would like your input as to why the clutch would stick to the
flywheel and not release. As I said in my original post, there was plenty
of fluid in the clutch hydraulic system and no problems when I last drove
the car several months ago.
Any ideas??
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002981
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Subject: [DML] Re: car alarm for DMC?
Date: 21-Sep-99 18:11:19 -0600
My 81 has an Alpine car alarm installed in it. It even includes the module to lock and unlock the doors (good thing since the door key has been AWOL since before I bought the car). I believe that this (along with the Alpine Radio) were in
I believe that Rob Grady (www.pjgrady.com) is also working on an addition to the lockzilla that would probably be a good ad-on to an alarm system
Michael Babb
VIN 3472
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From: King, Bob
To: dmcnews@egroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 3:08 PM
Subject: [DML] car alarm for DMC?
Hi, all-
Do the gull wing doors cause any significant problems when trying to
install a car alarm? Most car alarm specialty places I have called haven't
installed into a DMC-12, but assume that everything will go without a hitch.
I have no doubt that they *believe* they can do it, but I am sending out
feelers to find out if anyone has had problems with the installation of a
car alarm.
On the same note, if anyone knows of a place that has experience with car
alarms in a DMC-12 in Northern California, please let me know.
Also, any suggestions for a type/brand of alarm for a Delorean would be
appreciated.
Thanks
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<DIV>My 81 has an Alpine car alarm installed in it. It even includes the
module to lock and unlock the doors (good thing since the door key has been AWOL
since before I bought the car). I believe that this (along with the Alpine
Radio) were installed by Stephen Wynne for the previous owner.</DIV>
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<DIV>I believe that Rob Grady (<A
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<DIV>VIN 3472</DIV>
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Do the gull wing doors cause any significant problems when trying to
install a car alarm? Most car alarm specialty places I have called haven't
installed into a DMC-12, but assume that everything will go without a hitch.
I have no doubt that they *believe* they can do it, but I am sending out
feelers to find out if anyone has had problems with the installation of a
car alarm.
On the same note, if anyone knows of a place that has experience with car
alarms in a DMC-12 in Northern California, please let me know.
Also, any suggestions for a type/brand of alarm for a Delorean would be
appreciated.
Thanks
Bob
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Subject: [DML] Re: gas guage not working
Date: 21-Sep-99 19:14:51 -0500
The tank mounted sender is probably stuck or the wires have come loose. If
the sender is bad and you cannot find an original, spend the money for a
tankzilla. Its supposed to be bullet proof.
Scott
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Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 10:16 PM
Subject: [DML] gas guage not working
> i have an 81 d and the gas guage is not working. has anyone had this
> problem and are there any sugestions on how to fix the problem.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Standalone DMC-12
Date: 21-Sep-99 20:33:19 -0400
Mine stays parked inthe driveway, no problems yet. It would be nicer to put
a good cover on it, to protect it from the sun and from "prying eyes" <G>
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From: Christopher Hawes <cmhdevelopment@hotmail.com>
To: dmcnews@egroups.com <dmcnews@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 9:24 AM
Subject: [DML] Standalone DMC-12
>This is a subject that has been on my mind a lot lately.
>
>How many of you owners out there on the list do NOT keep your car reguarly
>garaged?
>
>Do you feel safe leaving your car out on the street?
>After all the car usually draws admiring glances.
>
>I remember one owner had his D stolen from his DMC emblem on the grill. I
>reckon that was probably sliced off with a kraft knife or something as
>nothing else was reported broken or missing...
>
>I suppose a few bits of trim may be taken but luckily the Delorean is
pretty
>solid and whole and lacks ornatmental gubbins that are stuck on just for
>show....
>
>The reason I ask this is that it will take longer to buy a DMC if I have to
>find a home with a garage first.
>
>
>
>Christopher M. Hawes
>DMD (Delorean Model Dealership)
>
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Subject: [DML] asi manual / accessories
Date: 21-Sep-99 21:00:37 -0400
greetings..
my stereo is an asi (that's right.. right??).. the radio works fine, but
the tape deck doesn't.. it operates, but, only a static sound comes out..
i was wondering if anyone knew where i could get a repair manual for my
radio.. i know there was one.. just, where does one find them??
also, at one time, i found a web site selling "DMC" jackets... i can't find
it now. any suggestions??
mike cutting
11434
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Subject: [DML] Re: car alarm for DMC?
Date: 21-Sep-99 21:07:52 -0400
I had my car alarm installed at the local Circuit City. They had no
problems and everything works just fine!
Sean Howley
VIN#2345
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Subject: [DML] Custom DMC keychains - last call!
Date: 21-Sep-99 18:14:18 -0700
>>>I just received the custom DMC key chain and tire valve stem covers.
>>>They are excellent quality and really outstanding. I'm going to order
>>>another set.
>>>
>>>Dr. Bob
Hello!
Regarding the custom DMC keychains and airvalve caps I sell on my website, I
still have some left, and would like to sell them in America before I go
back home to Ireland. They can be viewed on my website at :
http://homepage.tinet.ie/~johndore/keychain.html
The sets (including postage) cost $29.50, and my mailing address in San
Francisco is :
John Dore, 225 Ellis Street, San Francisco, CA 94102
I'm off back to Ireland at the end of next week, so I don't have much time
left. If I could get the checks by the weekend coming, or Monday at the
latest, I'll mail out the sets straight away.
If people in the UK or Ireland would like me to bring home a few sets for
them, then e-mail me and we'll sort it out.
All the guys who got them seem to be delighted with the quality of the sets,
and I'm sure you will be too!!
If I run out of sets before I get your letter, I'll mail your check back to
you no problem.
Anyway, hopefully some last-minute customers are out there somewhere, and
they'll buy a set or 2 off me.....
Best wishes to all, I had a great summer in California!
John Dore
http:/homepage.tinet.ie/~johndore
"John's Irish DeLorean Webpage!"
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Subject: [DML] engine additives
Date: 21-Sep-99 18:52:40 -0700
has anone tried to use a engine treatement to the engine in there DMC.
i have been thinging about trying the pro long treatment in mine. does
anyone know of any draw backs or good aspectes of this type of
treatment.
thanks
officer rick
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Subject: [DML] Re: People in the know and people who don't know (no no no)
Date: 21-Sep-99 23:08:31 -0400
Yes there are problems with the design of the factory central locking
system which has been solved with the Lockzilla, but lets not start any
rumors about the door latches. The original system is an excellent design
and the hardware never seems to wear out.
Door latch problems usually don't start by themselves. Inexperienced hands
are usually the culprit. Sometimes mis-fitting or improperly installed door
seals or door guides can also cause alignment and latch problems.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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From: Gus Schlachter <gus@clamsouth.com>
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Subject: [DML] Re: People in the know and people who don't know (no no no)
Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 4:56 PM
Hey, I bet we can all agree that the trademark gull-wing doors constitute a
"mechanical marvel." Well, except for the latching mechanism that everyone
seems to be having trouble with lately. And the electric locks weren't
exactly engineered by NASA. Hmm, and those windows....
But how 'bout them cryogenic torsion bars?! Those are way cool!
Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695
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Subject: [DML] DeLoren dealership sign
Date: 22-Sep-99 1:39:50 -0400
Hello, DeLorean owners hope you dont mind just thought I would drop you a
line about my DeLorean dealership sign for sale on Ebay Item #166799363 under
the DeLorean search. It is double sided, lights up ,has a super low opening
bid and no reserve. Thanks , Cameron Eagle inkranch@aol.com
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Date: 21-Sep-99 20:02:41 -1000
Lance, There are about nine DeLoreans on Oahu as far as several of us owners
can calculate. I have a 1981 with 6800 miles for sale. E-mail me direct at
tsassoc@pixi.com if you are interested.
Aloha, Thom
VIN #3089
-----Original Message-----
From: KnightJRL@aol.com <KnightJRL@aol.com>
To: dmcnews@egroups.com <dmcnews@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 11:12 AM
Subject: [DML] New Subscriber
>Hey all! Greetings!
> I just subscribed to the DML and wanted to introduce myself. My name's
>Jacen R. Lance, and I'm from Maui, HI. 18, and have loved DeLoreans since
>(and I'm not gonna lie) I saw BTTF for the first time. My love was further
>enhanced when I first saw one up close at a local mall where they were
having
>a contest and you could win one. I sat in it, looked around...and knew I
>wanted one. They're such unique and extraordinary cars.
> I don't know much about them though...don't really know anything at
all.
>A lot of it is a mystery to me, and I have recently found the time
(although
>that's a lie...more like making time) to try and do some research on these
>fascinating cars. But for now, any information any of you would like to
>share would be greatly appreciated. Since I am at the moment looking to
buy
>one, I would like to know what a perspective buyer should know.
> Also, are there any of you DMC enthusiasts in Hawaii? Specifically
Maui?
> And would anyone know if there is a D for sale in this area? One with low
>mileage is preferable.
> Well, I'm glad to have joined this group, and I'm sure I'll get a lot
>from it! Aloha!
>
>Jacen R. Lance
>
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Subject: [DML] JOHN DELOREAN BANKRUPT
Date: 22-Sep-99 4:15:34 -0400
Sad news just off the wires that John has filed as bankrupt in order to protect his property in Bedminster from being seized.
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Subject: [DML] HOW MANY 'Ds' ARE ACTUALLY IN AUSTRALIA
Date: 22-Sep-99 19:23:58 +1000
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>
> Greg,
I think there are about 11 DeLoreans in Australia.á Here's a breakdown as per
my records:
Queensland - two
New South Wales - three
Victoria - three
South Australia - one
Western Australia - two.
The South Australian DeLorean is owned by a person from the Northern Territory
and is on loan to the National Auto Museum at Birdwood (north of Adelaide).
A Western Australian owner has two, one of which is insitu in Melbourne and
the
other is in WA.á This particular owner has an original right-hand drive and so
do I.á Mine is a Eurospec model.á I'm not sure about his.á If you contact me
directly, I'll pass onto you the name of the West Australian owner.
One of the NSW 'Ds' is undergoing restoration and probably won't be roadworthy
for quite some time.
In addition to the above, Pepsi Australia (in 1986) made available a
right-hand
DeLorean as a prize in a competition to launch Back To The Future into
Australian cinemas.á The winner and location of the car, which displayed
distinctive æPEPSIÆ licence plates is unknown.
Please give me a call on 0414 295 888 (mobile) or 02 9840 8409 (BUS) and
perhaps we can arrange a get together.
Lance
Sydney
>
> Lance and friends
>
> I have 4162, there is one for sale in Perth, there is one in a museum in
Ad=
> elaide, I hear there is another one coming to Brisbane from LA, there is M=
> r Junin's mentioned below...that makes 5 or so.
>
> Are ther any more know down under?
>
> Greg Scalia
>
> ----------
> From: =09Lance R Haslewood[SMTP:lanceh@zeta.org.au]
> Sent: =09Sunday, September 19, 1999 7:45 PM
> To: =09dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: =09[DML] RHD CONVERSION
>
> I recall someone from the UK asking about a RHD conversion. William
> Junkins from Sydney is presently having his DeLorean converted to RHD. It
> is being carried out by a RHD specialist in Brookvale (Sydney suburb).
> Willlam has all the good oil on the conversion, so if anyone has any
> questions, please give him a honk on either of the two addresses below.
> I'm sure William will be only too pleased to offer adivce and give a SITREP
> on the progress of his vehicle.
>
> William_Junkins@xircom.com
> seek200@bigpond.com
>
> Lance (Australia)
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The DML archives will answer most, if not all of the questions you have.
This is good advice for everyone!
KnightJRL@aol.com wrote:
<SNIP>
> I don't know much about them though...don't really know anything at all.
> A lot of it is a mystery to me, and I have recently found the time (although
> that's a lie...more like making time) to try and do some research on these
> fascinating cars. But for now, any information any of you would like to
> share would be greatly appreciated. Since I am at the moment looking to buy
> one, I would like to know what a perspective buyer should know.
<SNIP>
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Subject: [DML] Re: gas guage not working
Date: 22-Sep-99 9:40:14 -0500
Rick
I just saw your message (I'm a little behind) and thought you might like
some input from someone who opted for the "rebuild the tank sending unit
yourself" route. My '81 d had the gas gauge pointing straight up thing
going, so I ripped the sending unit out and tore it open. There is a snap
on screen holder at the bottom of the unit (easy enough) that when you pop
it off will reveal a 5.5 mm nut in the center and a peg off to the side.
Both are coming through the bottom of a plastic piece that would pry off
easily if 1) you get the nut off and 2) if the peg weren't so rusty and in
need of cleaning. The nut is screwed to the center post that runs all the
way through the top where it meets an electical connector (black wire).
When unsrcrewing the nut, the post will want to turn with it, thus breaking
the coiled ground wire (if it isn't already) that is attached from the
float to the top of the post inside the unit. At the bottom of the post
there is a fixed holder for the gas warning light wire (red wire) that will
also break (the wire, not the holder) if the post goes spinning upon nut
removal. The off center peg has a wire coiled around it that the contact
on the float "reads." The peg is pretty ridged so it will not break if you
take care with the amount of pressure you put on it. Hind-sight tells me
that I would have saved myself a lot of sodering if I had made damn sure
that the center post would not have spun upon nut removal. Perhaps cutting
a slit with a Dremmel tool into the top of the center post (where the black
wire is attached to the unit) so it could be secured with a screw driver
while the nut is removed. Now I'm at the point where I must replace the
coiled ground wire and the straight thin wire. I think they are of a
specific resistance, but I have a feeling that I won't get that info here.
I'll probably reuse some wire out of an old junk Audi sending unit. I'll
keep you posted on the progress.
Todd "Project Car 4 Sure" B.
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Subject: [DML] JZD in the news
Date: 22-Sep-99 9:42:22 -0500
Tuesday September 21, 9:04 pm Eastern Time
DeLorean Files for Bankruptcy
NEWARK, N.J. (AP) -- Former automaker John Z. DeLorean was able to prevent
the U.S. marshal's auction of
his sprawling Bedminster estate by filing for bankruptcy protection.
DeLorean, known for the stainless steel, gull-wing sports cars that bore
his name, issued a statement that his
Chapter 11 reorganization filing would allow him to develop his 434-acre
Lamington Farm into two 18-hole golf
courses and an equestrian center.
He could not be reached for comment Tuesday.
One of his chief creditors, his onetime lawyer Mayer Morganroth, told The
Star-Ledger of Newark on Tuesday that the filing was an ``inappropriate''
ploy to
buy time and would be challenged.
A message left for Morganroth at his Michigan office was not immediately
returned. He is trying to enforce a $7.5 million judgment against DeLorean
for
unpaid legal fees.
DeLorean, 74, also owes about $11 million to Merrill Lynch Credit Corp.
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Subject: [DML] distributor
Date: 22-Sep-99 8:10:47 -0700
I've begon looking around for fule distributors, just in case I need to
buy one to fix my D. Does anybody know the model distributor I need or
any other distributor that would work on the Delorean? it's not
urgent...yet...but I just want to get a feel for what's out there. I
know DMC Houston has them for $1000. Thanks for the help.
Erik Geerdink
vin 4512
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Subject: [DML] Re: car alarm for DMC?
Date: 22-Sep-99 8:14:36 -0700
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Bob,
I have installed an alarm by myself in a DeLorean, and had no problems
with it. I instlled the internal movement sensors (ultra-sound)in the
back near the rear window instead at the A-pillars as recomended in the
instructions. While the original solenoid door-lock actuators where
fried I replaced them whith modern motor driven actuators wich made the
installation of the alarm easyer.
Besides of tracing down the right wires the installation of an alarm in
a DeLorean should not give any problem.
good luck
John
"king, bob" <bkin-@maxis.com> wrote:
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> Hi, all-
>
> Do the gull wing doors cause any significant problems when trying to
> install a car alarm? Most car alarm specialty places I have called
haven't
> installed into a DMC-12, but assume that everything will go without a
hitch.
> I have no doubt that they *believe* they can do it, but I am sending
out
> feelers to find out if anyone has had problems with the installation
of a
> car alarm.
>
> On the same note, if anyone knows of a place that has experience with
car
> alarms in a DMC-12 in Northern California, please let me know.
>
> Also, any suggestions for a type/brand of alarm for a Delorean would
be
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob
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Subject: [DML] D for sale
Date: 22-Sep-99 9:39:09 -0700
There is a Delorean at Prestige Motors in Grand Rapids Michigan for
sale. It looks to be in excelletn condition with no visible flaws. it
has 8,210 miles on it and has won many awards. the website is
www.prestigemotorsltd.com the website doesn't have a pic or anything,
but you can get a hold of them via that. They want $15,750 for it.
oh, its an '81 I don't know about the tranny.
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Subject: [DML] Re: NCT Tires
Date: 22-Sep-99 13:18:32 -0500
Ryan wrote:
>The original tires on the DeLorean were Goodyear NCTs. If memory
serves, Goodyear stopped making that tire. Why exactly is this?<
The short answer is 20 years of tire development. Goodyear still makes
NCTs from time to time, usually not in the sizes we need for our cars. There
are other Goodyear tires that are made in place of NCTs, (Eagles, etc),
but they tend to be made in "modern" sizes - 15-17 inch wheels, low profile
sidewalls, etc.
Mike Griese
Storage Software Development Manager
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Internet: magriese@us.ibm.com
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Subject: [DML] Using the DML to Conduct Surveys
Date: 22-Sep-99 14:51:06 -0400
Currently we have two threads running which are essentially surveys.
They are "How many people have a car alarm?" and "How many people store
their DeLoreans outdoors?" These threads are getting a lot of responses
which contain very little information. They *almost* qualify as "me
too" posts.
Allow me to point out that eGroups has a perfectly good survey function
which is available to all of us. It could easily tally up these
statistics without jamming all of our E-mail boxes. In the interest of
keeping the DML a pleasant community, I STRONGLY SUGGEST that these
questions be conducted as surveys in the future.
If you want to accumulate detailed statistics, like the brand name of
their alarm or stereo, please ask subscribers to send private Email to
you. When you tally the results feel free to post them to the rest of
us. For an example, see the "Frequency of Accidents for DeLoreans vs
Other Cars" survey in the 1997 back issues:
http://www.dmcnews.com/backissues/dml211.html
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Subject: [DML] Re: engine additives
Date: 22-Sep-99 15:16:06 -0400
In-reply-to: <7S9CP8ALH4>
On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 rickaye@webtv.net wrote:
> has anone tried to use a engine treatement to the engine in there DMC.
I have written on the subject of oil additives quite frequently. You
might want to look in the archives.
Anyway, the short answer is that an oil additive is just not going to do
your engine any good. If you want to do your engine a good thing, use
synthetic oil, or use regular oil and change it regularly.
The basic reason for this is that the oil companies invest more money into
R&D on their oil than the additive makers' whole company is worth. If
there is some miracle ingredient that makes oil better, the oil makers
would be using it already. Yet none of the reputable oil makers
manufactures any additives - they don't even have any third party
additives that they recommend. To compound things, oil is a very complex
set of chemicals. Every oil is a little different, even though most of
them are fairly similar, none are identical. The additive makers don't
even know what sort of chemistry their product will be going in.
Fuel treatments are typically in the same boat, except for fuel treatments
that perform a specific task (stabilizer, injector cleaner, whatever -
these are frequently, but not always, good at what they do).
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Subject: [DML] Re: windex??
Date: 22-Sep-99 14:20:02 -0500
You can use windex on your car to remove finger prints and dirt very easily.
When i am at a carshow with my friends we take the windex and spray it on
paper towels and just wipe it clean, with the grain. Its an easy way to
clean your D before a show without having to actually wash it.
> it was suggested to me, by a fellow delorean enthusiast that windex would
> remove fingerprints, quite nicely...
>
> will this harm my vehicle?
>
> :)
> mike cutting
> 11434
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Car show @ Englishtown, NJ...
Date: 22-Sep-99 15:22:07 -0400
This sunday is the car show and swap meet at Raceway Park in Englishtown NJ. I will most likely be attending. If anyone else wants to go and would like to "caravan", e-mail me directly. Thank you.
---Dan Vin#5493
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Subject: [DML] Coker tire ph. no.
Date: 22-Sep-99 12:26:30 -0700
I was told by a DMC owner @ the Auburn, IN auction that the NCT's are
available from Coker(sp?) in Nashville, TN. He obtained his from themnot
all that long ago. Any further info. on this? Robert VIN 6924
***********************************
Don't know if Coker has them - they aren't on the list I have but their
phone number is 800-251-6336. Their staff is generally very helpful.
Aaron Husak
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Subject: [DML] Re: engine additives
Date: 22-Sep-99 20:10:25 +0000
I disagree with some parts of this statement, being a pharmaceutical chemist
for 10+ years I have some background in organic chemistry. Let's not kid
ourselves, the bottom line with the oil companies is the almighty dollar.
They are just as concerned with what distillation by-products they can dump
off in their products as what they are trying to keep out of it, the gas you
buy at the pump is a prime example of this. Although companies that produce
additives don't have the budgets of the large oil companies they have still
done some respectable research. Sure, there are some garbage products out
there but I wouldn't condemn the whole industry especially in light of the
"wonderful" oil companies.
-SweatyEddy
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From: William T Wilson <fluffy@snurgle.org>
To: <dmcnews@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 7:16 PM
Subject: [DML] Re: engine additives
> On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 rickaye@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > has anone tried to use a engine treatement to the engine in there DMC.
>
> I have written on the subject of oil additives quite frequently. You
> might want to look in the archives.
>
> Anyway, the short answer is that an oil additive is just not going to do
> your engine any good. If you want to do your engine a good thing, use
> synthetic oil, or use regular oil and change it regularly.
>
> The basic reason for this is that the oil companies invest more money into
> R&D on their oil than the additive makers' whole company is worth. If
> there is some miracle ingredient that makes oil better, the oil makers
> would be using it already. Yet none of the reputable oil makers
> manufactures any additives - they don't even have any third party
> additives that they recommend. To compound things, oil is a very complex
> set of chemicals. Every oil is a little different, even though most of
> them are fairly similar, none are identical. The additive makers don't
> even know what sort of chemistry their product will be going in.
>
> Fuel treatments are typically in the same boat, except for fuel treatments
> that perform a specific task (stabilizer, injector cleaner, whatever -
> these are frequently, but not always, good at what they do).
>
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Ohio Event this Weekend (near Michigan)
Date: 22-Sep-99 16:32:12 -0400
The DeLorean Club of Ohio will be attending a clam bake on Put-In-Bay
Island this Saturday. We are expecting a number of local DeLoreans,
with possible opportunities to display our cars in a couple of very
scenic locations. We might even have a parade through town.
The reason we have not publicized this event very much is because we did
not want to hurt attendance at the big event in Atlanta this weekend.
Unfortunately, we had no control over the date.
Any DeLorean fans in Ohio or Michigan who want a look at a squadron of
stainless beauties should ride the ferry boat from Port Clinton to
Put-In-Bay this Saturday. Put-In-Bay is a party town, and you are sure
to have a good time.
Contact me or see these websites for details:
http://www.put-in-bay.com/
http://www.putinbay.com/
- Mike Substelny
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Subject: [DML] Re: car alarm for DMC?
Date: 22-Sep-99 16:48:30 -0400
Hold it ! Lets keep the facts straight. The DeLorean electrical system is
not a Lucas design. It does contain a couple of lucas parts but that's it.
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From: Gus Schlachter <gus@clamsouth.com> I think the problem
installing a new alarm is trying to figure out the Lucas electricals, and
even a wiring diagram may not help.
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Subject: [DML] Re: gas gauge not working
Date: 22-Sep-99 17:11:20 -0400
We have some factory senders on our shelf; contact us directly for details.
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> From: Scott Mueller <scottmueller@zebra.net>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: gas guage not working
> Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 8:14 PM
>
> The tank mounted sender is probably stuck or the wires have come loose.
If
> the sender is bad and you cannot find an original, spend the money for a
> tankzilla. Its supposed to be bullet proof.
>
> Scott
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <rickaye@webtv.net>
>
> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 10:16 PM
> Subject: [DML] gas guage not working
>
>
> > i have an 81 d and the gas guage is not working. has anyone had this
> > problem and are there any sugestions on how to fix the problem.
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: engine additives
Date: 22-Sep-99 17:16:03 -0400
Save your money, all your engine needs are regular oil changes and some
TLC. My 260k mile D has never seen a drop of any fluid other than name
brand oil.
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> From: rickaye@webtv.net
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] engine additives
> Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 9:52 PM
>
> has anone tried to use a engine treatement to the engine in there DMC.
> i have been thinging about trying the pro long treatment in mine. does
> anyone know of any draw backs or good aspectes of this type of
> treatment.
> thanks
> officer rick
>
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Subject: [DML] North Carolina DeLoreans
Date: 22-Sep-99 17:36:26 -0400
I keep seeing postings about state DeLorean clubs, and I was wondering if NC
had one? If anyone knows of one, how about letting me know?
Scott
#16738
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Subject: [DML] Re: JZD in the news
Date: 22-Sep-99 17:51:16 -0400
This is good news and bad news. The good news is that this should put an
end to all the talk about a new DeLorean. The bad news is that John is
still in hot water financially.
For all of us JZD supporters I wouldn't worry to much. Shortly after the
company folded he owed 80 million dollars and he has been able to hold on
to his property all these years. This is just another legal move to allow
him stay in Bedminster. Good luck John, we love you.
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> From: James Espey <james@usadmc.com>
>
> Date: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 10:42 AM
>
> Tuesday September 21, 9:04 pm Eastern Time
>
> DeLorean Files for Bankruptcy
>
> NEWARK, N.J. (AP) -- Former automaker John Z. DeLorean was able to
prevent the U.S. marshal's auction of his sprawling Bedminster estate by
filing for bankruptcy protection.
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLoren dealership sign
Date: 22-Sep-99 17:56:16 -0400
The seller of this sign must not be too familiar with the DeLorean
automobile. In the description he says "DMC logo done in brushed aluminum...
Without a magnet you would swear it's stainless steel just like the car." FYI
- The stainless steel on the DeLorean (Grade 304) is non-magnetic, just like
aluminum.
My 1 1/2 cents,
Dave
VIN 5524
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Subject: [DML] Re: Clutch not releasing
Date: 22-Sep-99 18:06:58 -0400
If the car was not driven for a period of time it is not unusual for the
clutch disc to stick to the pressure plate. Keep in mind that the release
clearance is measured in millimeters therefore any buildup of moisture,
dust, or other foreign matter will cause the sticking problem.
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> From: Scott Mueller <scottmueller@zebra.net>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: Clutch not releasing
> Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 8:08 PM
>
> Thanks to all for your suggestions on solving the "stuck" clutch problem.
>
> As you may recall, it appeared that the clutch was not disengaging the
> flywheel from the transmission.
>
> A friend at work suggested that I try placing the transmission in reverse
> while the engine was off. Then, I depressed the clutch peddle to
disengage
> the clutch while cranking the engine. When I first tried to crank the
> engine the car lept backwards. I tried again and the clutch disengaged
and
> the engine started. I ran out of time tonight to try and drive the car,
but
> it seems to be OK.
>
> Now, I would like your input as to why the clutch would stick to the
> flywheel and not release. As I said in my original post, there was
plenty
> of fluid in the clutch hydraulic system and no problems when I last drove
> the car several months ago.
>
> Any ideas??
>
> Scott
> 002981
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: distributor
Date: 22-Sep-99 18:10:11 -0400
The fuel distributor is a Bosch FD-46X. Unfortunately this number won't be
of much help if you start calling parts suppliers. They would rather have
application information.
You might be lucky and find a 1980 through 1983 Volvo 260-262 GLE series
with the B28F engine in some junk yard. Unfortunately if the car sat unused
for an extended period of time and exposed to the elements the distributor
is
probably N.G.
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> From: delorean502@excite.com
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] distributor
> Date: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 11:10 AM
>
> I've begon looking around for fule distributors, just in case I need to
> buy one to fix my D. Does anybody know the model distributor I need or
> any other distributor that would work on the Delorean? it's not
> urgent...yet...but I just want to get a feel for what's out there. I
> know DMC Houston has them for $1000. Thanks for the help.
>
> Erik Geerdink
> vin 4512
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: engine additives
Date: 22-Sep-99 17:51:27 -0500
In-reply-to: <PINE>.LNX.4.04.9909221501550.11434-100000
I'll second this. All of the additives that are supposed to make a car last
longer, or the oil more slippery are snake oil.
There are some additives that will keep an engine that is on it's last legs
on the road a bit longer. These are OK in the sense that they do what they
advertise, but DON'T use them in an engine that is in good condition. Just
changing the oil and the filter regularly will do your engine the most good.
Mark N
VIN 6820
At 03:16 PM 9/22/99 -0400, you wrote:
>On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 rickaye@webtv.net wrote:
>
>> has anone tried to use a engine treatement to the engine in there DMC.
>
>I have written on the subject of oil additives quite frequently. You
>might want to look in the archives.
>
>Anyway, the short answer is that an oil additive is just not going to do
>your engine any good. If you want to do your engine a good thing, use
>synthetic oil, or use regular oil and change it regularly.
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Clutch not releasing
Date: 22-Sep-99 17:57:05 -0500
In-reply-to: <000B01BF048EA8A0>2d40$a5990cd1
Rust will do it. Usually it's rust on the input shaft of the transmission.
My Ford tractor does this every spring. I usually do essentially what you
did to release it.
Just drive it regularly and the rust and the problem it caused will go
away. If you plan on having it apart at any time smear a light coat of
grease on the shaft in the area of the clutch and throwout bearing. Not too
much or it could work it's way onto the clutch plate and cause problems.
Mark N
VIN 6820
At 07:08 PM 9/21/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Thanks to all for your suggestions on solving the "stuck" clutch problem.
>
>As you may recall, it appeared that the clutch was not disengaging the
>flywheel from the transmission.
>
<snip>
>Now, I would like your input as to why the clutch would stick to the
>flywheel and not release.
<snip>
>Scott
>002981
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Subject: [DML] Delorean Article
Date: 22-Sep-99 23:38:54 +0000
I found this article last night and thought I'd post it.
You can also find it at www.bttf.com.
http://wire.nj.com/cgi-bin/nj_nview.pl?/home1/wire/AP/Stream-Parsed/JERSEY_NEWS/j0156_AM_NJ--DeLorean-Bankrupt
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Subject: [DML] Idler pulley bolts
Date: 22-Sep-99 16:59:15 -0700
In message #2956 DMC Joe said "CAUTION: Do not over tighten the pulley
mounting bracket bolts, items #4." Amen, Joe. This is very true. A while
back I was replacing the idler pulley bearing and upon reinstallation over
tightened one of the bolts, stripping the threads (not a good thing). After
calming down, I decided to re-tap the threads to a larger size and after
carefully accomplishing this a larger bolt worked fine. I am now VERY
careful with this and all other fasteners into the aluminum block. I later
fabricated and installed a stainless steel plate as an extention to the
muffler heat shield. It extends to the left (viewed from the rear of the
car) past the lower pulley and protects it somewhat from excess muffler
heat. This has greatly increased the life of that bearing.
BTW, with over 116 thousand miles on VIN# 3507, I have replaced idler pulley
bearings several times. The lower pulley bearing seems to fail more than the
upper one which is why I added the extention to the heat shield. Once while
returning from an overnight outing with several other DMC owners, the lower
bearing froze up and the pulley broke loose, fell down onto the freeway,
bounced up, and hit VIN# 2248's front facia damaging a parking/turn signal
light. I didn't even notice or hear anything and # 2248 asked on the C.B. if
I had hit or run over anything because when it hit him it made a terrible
noise.
Greg Linstad
Pacific Northwest Delorean Club
VIN# 3507 116,000+ miles
Washington plate "RUSTLSS"
"Well, my car still runs perfectly... just wanted to let everyone know"
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Subject: [DML] Re: JZD in the news
Date: 22-Sep-99 20:46:00 -0400
I'd just like to say that a dozen years ago my business went sour and I lost
a big lawsuit, which forced me into bankruptcy. I would not wish that on my
worst enemy. Of course my debt had a few less zeros than Mr. DeLorean's, but
it sure ain't no fun. Perhaps the best encouragement I got was from my lawyer
who said "At least you took the risk, most folks will not." If you are
reading this Mr. DeLorean, Thank-you for taking that risk.
DMD in NH
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Subject: [DML] Re: JZD in the news
Date: 22-Sep-99 19:55:02 -0600
Correct me if I am wrong, but I seam to remember an article with almost the exact wording in the past? Is this a new development, or the reoccurance of a past issue with DeLorean?
Michael Babb
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: [DML] JZD in the news
Tuesday September 21, 9:04 pm Eastern Time
DeLorean Files for Bankruptcy
NEWARK, N.J. (AP) -- Former automaker John Z. DeLorean was able to prevent
the U.S. marshal's auction of
his sprawling Bedminster estate by filing for bankruptcy protection.
DeLorean, known for the stainless steel, gull-wing sports cars that bore
his name, issued a statement that his
Chapter 11 reorganization filing would allow him to develop his 434-acre
Lamington Farm into two 18-hole golf
courses and an equestrian center.
He could not be reached for comment Tuesday.
One of his chief creditors, his onetime lawyer Mayer Morganroth, told The
Star-Ledger of Newark on Tuesday that the filing was an ``inappropriate''
ploy to
buy time and would be challenged.
A message left for Morganroth at his Michigan office was not immediately
returned. He is trying to enforce a $7.5 million judgment against DeLorean
for
unpaid legal fees.
DeLorean, 74, also owes about $11 million to Merrill Lynch Credit Corp.
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DeLorean, known for the stainless steel, gull-wing sports cars that bore
his name, issued a statement that his
Chapter 11 reorganization filing would allow him to develop his 434-acre
Lamington Farm into two 18-hole golf
courses and an equestrian center.
He could not be reached for comment Tuesday.
One of his chief creditors, his onetime lawyer Mayer Morganroth, told The
Star-Ledger of Newark on Tuesday that the filing was an ``inappropriate''
ploy to
buy time and would be challenged.
A message left for Morganroth at his Michigan office was not immediately
returned. He is trying to enforce a $7.5 million judgment against DeLorean
for
unpaid legal fees.
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Subject: [DML] Re: engine additives
Date: 22-Sep-99 22:18:51 -0400
Do not put Pro-Long in your motor unless you want to throw your money
away. On the other hand, if you want an engine additive use Duralube. I
dont have a Delorean but I use this product in my 88 toyota celica and I
swear by it. You may remember it from the infomercial where they cut
fluid lines, and dump rocks and sand in a Chrysler motor and it keeps
going. (btw, Prolong declined when duralube wanted to take the "Prolong
Challenge".
To sum up the satisfaction, the engine is noticeably quieter,
everything runs smoother, especially on the highway, and gas mileage
increases about 3-5mpg. I have been using it for 2 years, and my car
has even stopped burning oil! Not to mention that usually, you can hear
some rough running as soon as you start your car until the oil
circulates..well, this does not happen for me when I use Duralube.
PS: Everyone I know who uses it loves it too!
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Subject: [DML] Re: windex??
Date: 22-Sep-99 23:06:45 -0400
I have had my D for ten years and have used Windex on the exterior SS finish
regularly with no apparent damage. My D gets dusty in the garage between
outings and the Windex is a quick cleaner upper.
Brian in Fla. - VIN 5830
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Subject: [DML] Power to Fuel pump???
Date: 22-Sep-99 20:16:45 -0700
Hello everyone,
I own a 81 DeLorean that needs quite a bit of work. Currently my
mechanic is stomped as he need to get power to the fuel pump and he
doesn't know how. Can anyone help?
Terri
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Date: 23-Sep-99 0:42:27 -0400
In a message dated 9/17/99 8:07:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DMCJOE@att.net
writes:
<< There are no hollow voids in the front GRP (pontoon) body section. There
are, however, >>
There are hollow voids in the front pontoon body,they run the length of the
fenders both sides,on the drivers side the wiring harness for the headlights,
radiator fans,ect run thru the hollow area,on the passenger side it is just
hollow unfortunately the top of the fender covers the area that is hollow it
is about two inches high about 1 1/2 wide DO NOT CUT the inside of the trunk
(The areas where the struts bolts on to)that only abutts the inner fender
panel there is no void there,there is also a smaller hollow which is the lip
that surrounds the complete trunk area(it keeps rain water that passes the
trunk seal from getting into the trunk) there is no way to remove anything
that got in there,and structurally you would damage the pontoon.
Claude
Vin#000570
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Subject: [DML] Replacement Tires for the Originals?
Date: 22-Sep-99 21:59:02 -0700
The original tires for the DMC are Goodyear NCT 195/60HR14 (front) and
Goodyear Eagle GT 245/60R15. I've been unsuccessful in trying to find
exact replacements of the originals.
I've been able to locate another brand of tires for the front that are
H rated. However, it's been a challenge to locate replacement tires
for the rear that has the same speed rating. Is having a different
speed rating (front and rear) a problem? Should I go with a different
size tires to have match up the speed rating on the tires? What would
you guys recommend as replacements tires? I would prefer to get the
originals if that was possible.
Terri
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Subject: [DML] Re: Driver's door does not latch
Date: 23-Sep-99 1:25:59 -0400
Darren wrote:
> Okay, I guess I left that bit of info out. Yes, my D does have the big
> chunks of stainless, aka door guides. There is not a clunking sound of the
> door pin hitting the door guides, so I feel that the door has at least decent
> alignment. It looks closed when depressed, unlike my passenger side door. I
> can put all my weight on the drivers door, and the latches will not catch.
> DMCJoe says he has the answer, I will contact you as soon as I can. If I
> left out any other info, please let me know.
>
> Thank you,
> Darren Decker
> #5000
The fix to Darren's door not latching was a simple cable adjustment. The exterior door handle has a cable attached to it, which is intern attach to central arm that controls the latches. His Delorean has the metal upgraded exterior handle,
To get to the adjustment, remove the upper door panel and mid way down the door it will be staring you in the face.
His door will now stay latched as designed and he will not be falling out any time soon.
So, as Joe has said, "The original system is an excellent design and the hardware never seems to wear out. Door latch problems usually don't start by themselves. Inexperienced hands are usually the culprit."
Drive your dream and everyone be safe,
Robert Starling
Vin#5252
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Darren wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>> Okay, I guess I left that bit of info out. Yes, my
D does have the big <BR>> chunks of stainless, aka door guides. There
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<DIV><FONT size=2>The fix to Darren's door not latching was a simple cable
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<DIV><FONT size=2> So, as Joe has said, "The original system is an
excellent design and the hardware never seems to wear out. Door latch problems
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Subject: [DML] alarm/door lights/interesting occurance
Date: 22-Sep-99 23:05:22 -0700
(Moderator- sorry for the length of this posting. I understand if you
disallow it. I felt I needed the length to illustrate the story I was
trying to tell. -Bob)
I am offering up the following as an 'experience' I have recently had with
my DeLorean while having an alarm installed. Feel free to analyze the
situation. Maybe you can get some enlightening info out of it about door
lights and alarms, and maybe you can help me get my driver's side door
lights to come on!
I recently got my DMC-12 and realized that the door lights on either door
did not come on. I put this on the low-priority list of things to do
because it doesn't have anything to do with actually operating the vehicle.
(Can you get a 'fix-it' ticket from the police for not having properly
working door lights? Hmmmm.....) Anyway, I figured the bulbs were burnt out.
Today, I had a CODE alarm installed, and I noticed that after installation
was completed by the shop, all 3 door lights on the passenger side worked.
I also noticed that the alarm did not work on the driver's side door... I
also noticed that now, not only did the passenger door lights work, but they
NEVER shut off. (I could tell because they were VERY hot by the time I
noticed them, and they didn't shut off at the last second before I closed
the door ...something like a refrigerator light)
Both of these problems were fixed. It appears that the little 'push peg'
(for lack of a better term) on the dash/console near the hinge of the
drivers door never touched the activating plate located on the door that it
is supposed to touch. Sorry for the lack of technical terms, but basically,
the door part of car alarms are hooked up to a little peg mechanism on the
console near the door hinge that depresses when the door is closed and
releases when the door is opened. The initial intent of these pegs is to
turn on and off interior lights in the car when the door opens/closes.
Apparently, my peg never touched the door, because it was missing it's mark
by a good half inch or so. This peg misalignment caused the passenger door
lights to stay on permanently and the alarm to not go off when the driver's
door opened. I suppose this could have been caused by the door shifting, but
it seems to be aligned very well.
This problem was fixed by adding a small piece of hard rubber to the part of
the door where the activation peg was hitting (or missing, as the case may
be). This rubber piece was cut from some excess rubber found at the alarm
store was affixed to the door securely with extra strength double sided foam
tape so that it would depress the pin but not touch the gasket along the
front of the door opening. Now, the driver's door/alarm works, and the
passenger door lights go out, because the pin is properly depressed.
However, the driver's door lights still do not work. I have no idea what
was done electrically during the installation to make the passenger door
lights come on, but if anyone knows a way to get these lights to come on,
please let me know. Something I did notice during all of this is that there
are supposed to be 2 of those 'push pegs' at the driver's door hinge, an
upper and a lower. I am missing the lower one. What function does this
lower peg serve?
Bob
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Subject: [DML] HOW MANY 'Ds' ARE ACTUALLY IN AUSTRALIA
Date: 23-Sep-99 19:53:17 +1000
From: Gregory M Scalia <gmscalia@gil.com.au>
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 23:31:12 +1000
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Subject: [DML] How many D's are actually in Australia
Lance and friends
I have 4162, there is one for sale in Perth, there is one in a museum in Ad=
elaide, I hear there is another one coming to Brisbane from LA, there is M=
r Junin's mentioned below...that makes 5 or so.
Are ther any more know down under?
Greg Scalia
Greg,
I think there are about 11 DeLoreans in Australia.á Here's a breakdown as per
my records:
Queensland - two
New South Wales - three
Victoria - three
South Australia - one
Western Australia - two.
The South Australian DeLorean is owned by a person from the Northern Territory
and is on loan to the National Auto Museum at Birdwood (north of Adelaide).
A Western Australian owner has two, one of which is insitu in Melbourne and
the
other is in WA.á This particular owner has an original right-hand drive and so
do I.á Mine is a Eurospec model.á I'm not sure about his.á If you contact me
directly, I'll pass onto you the name of the West Australian owner.
One of the NSW 'Ds' is undergoing restoration and probably won't be roadworthy
for quite some time.
In addition to the above, Pepsi Australia (in 1986) made available a
right-hand
DeLorean as a prize in a competition to launch Back To The Future into
Australian cinemas.á The winner and location of the car, which displayed
distinctive æPEPSIÆ licence plates is unknown.
Please give me a call on 0414 295 888 (mobile) or 02 9840 8409 (BUS) and
perhaps we can arrange a get together.
Lance
Sydney
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Subject: [DML] NJ and PA Events this weekend
Date: 23-Sep-99 8:27:25 -0400
Greetings,
There are some events coming up this weekend and in the next couple weeks
as well where some of our members are planning to attend. This Sunday
September 26th is the Fall Englishtown Show in Englishtown, NJ. I believe
two or three of our members will be attending with their D's Also the same
weekend is the English Car Day at Graeme Park in Horshan, PA on Saturday
September 25th. Adlo and Joe Pippell are planning on attending this show.
Next Thursday there is the final Cruise Night in Freehold NJ. Hopefully a
few of us can make it to that event as well. I believe Aldo is planning on
attending. Finally keep your calendar marked for October 17th as this is
going to be the date for our Fall Social. We will be having our social at
the Cranberry Festival in Chatsworth, NJ They have a car show in conjunction
with this event where we can show our cars. Should be a great day. For more
information on all these events check my Events Web Page. The link is below.
Hope to see many of you at the Social and some other evets as well.
Gary Gore
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Subject: [DML] Re: JZD in the news
Date: 23-Sep-99 10:23:50 -0400
This is current news. Mr. DeLorean has been in and out of court since 1982.
Every few months there is a new development.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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From: Michael Babb <michael.babb@mindspring.com>
Subject: [DML] Re: JZD in the news
Date: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 9:55 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but I seam to remember an article with almost the
exact wording in the past? Is this a new development, or the reoccurance
of a past issue with DeLorean?
Michael Babb
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Subject: [DML] Re: Power to Fuel pump???
Date: 23-Sep-99 11:10:29 -0400
Just have your mechanic give us a call, we will be happy to assist him. Be
aware that we will be at the big DeLorean Cruise-In show this weekend so
your mechanic will have to wait till Monday to consult with us. Our phone
number is 770 631-4800 tell him to ask for DMC Joe.
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> From: hobiedmc@hotmail.com
> Subject: [DML] Power to Fuel pump???
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I own a 81 DeLorean that needs quite a bit of work. Currently my
> mechanic is stomped as he need to get power to the fuel pump and he
> doesn't know how. Can anyone help?
>
> Terri
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Subject: [DML] Re: alarm/door lights/interesting occurance
Date: 23-Sep-99 11:50:54 -0400
One of the switches controls door and interior lights, the other is for the
key buzzer. To test your door lights locate the wiring harness that
contains the wires that connect to the driver door switches, depending on
your Vin #, locate the purple/pink or purple/white wires and jump them to
the black ground wire. The lights should illuminate. If they do you have
isolated the problem to either a defective or missing door light switch.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: King, Bob <BKing@maxis.com>
> Subject: [DML] alarm/door lights/interesting occurance
> However, the driver's door lights still do not work. I have no idea what
> was done electrically during the installation to make the passenger door
> lights come on, but if anyone knows a way to get these lights to come on,
> please let me know. Something I did notice during all of this is that
there
> are supposed to be 2 of those 'push pegs' at the driver's door hinge, an
> upper and a lower. I am missing the lower one. What function does this
> lower peg serve?
>
> Bob
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Subject: [DML] DMC Joe Signing Off
Date: 23-Sep-99 11:58:06 -0400
To all,
As you all know Stephen Wynne, Rob Grady, and myself will be attending the
big SEDOC DeLorean Cruise-In Event in Atlanta this weekend. Therefore I
will not be participating on the list until Monday. If you have an
emergency concerning your DeLorean go to our web-site and click on the HELP
button and post your message.
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Subject: [DML] Long Island Delorean Association ????
Date: 23-Sep-99 9:37:03 -0700
I wanted to see if there was any interest in a Long Island Delorean
association and I have to say the results to date are disappointing to
say the least. This would consist of a few get together a year nothing
to extreme here. To date I've only heard from a few of you. Could it be
true that Long Island the home of PJ Gradys doesn't have any Delorean
enthusiasts? I would still like to hear from any Long Island Delorean
owners interested in a local association (I would even like to here
from Long Island owners not interested in being part of such an
organization just to know how many are out there).
Please e-mail me at mdeluca@comtechpst.com
Mike D.
Vin 3113
NY lic. DLORIANN
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Subject: [DML] Northeast Delorean Association
Date: 23-Sep-99 9:39:33 -0700
I have been trying to see if there is enough interest in a NorthEast,
Delorean association, the response has not been great but fortunately
there is some interest. Any one interested in NY, NJ CT, RI etc. please
contact me at mdeluca@Comtechpst.com.
Mike D.
Vin 3113
NY lic. DLORIANN
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Subject: [DML] backup lights on in Park--still no luck
Date: 23-Sep-99 14:02:46 -0400
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I am still trying to diagnose the problem I have been having in which my
backup lights are on in Park and Neutral, as well as reverse.
I have removed the multifunctin switch from the transmission for
examination. The lights go on and off when I press one of the two little
buttons, but no positioning of the switch in its place will make the lights
go off with the car in Park.
Is there some kind of adjustment of the mechinism inside the transmission
that activates this switch, or is the switch itself defective? (it shows
some subtle signs of having been hit at some point). Does anybody have a
switch assembly left over from a governor computer transplant that they
would be willing to part with? Other than replacing the switch, I am
running out of debugging ideas.
--pete
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Subject: [DML] questions
Date: 23-Sep-99 15:00:37 -0400
i just bought a d #11288 and this service is great..can i have a one-liner of
what the lockzilla and the tankzilla are and how i can check and see if i
have them..also officer rick what dept are you out of..thanks for your help.
mike leising
sugarland, tx
vin 11288
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Subject: [DML] Re: Replacement Tires for the Originals?
Date: 23-Sep-99 12:13:08 -0700
why all the discussion on NCT's. My original NCT's only served me for about 12,000 miles
(original owner). Aren't the Yoko's a better replacement in the original size?
á
steve brodsky #10688
hobiedmc@hotmail.com wrote:
> The original tires for the DMC are Goodyear NCT 195/60HR14 (front) and
> Goodyear Eagle GT 245/60R15.á I've been unsuccessful in trying to find
> exact replacements of the originals.
>
> I've been able to locate another brand of tires for the front that are
> H rated.á However, it's been a challenge to locate replacement tires
> for the rear that has the same speed rating.á Is having a different
> speed rating (front and rear) a problem?á Should I go with a different
> size tires to have match up the speed rating on the tires?á What would
> you guys recommend as replacements tires?á I would prefer to get the
> originals if that was possible.
>
> Terri
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Replacement Tires for the Originals?
Date: 23-Sep-99 15:49:30 -0500
Teri wrote:
>The original tires for the DMC are Goodyear NCT 195/60HR14 (front) and
Goodyear Eagle GT 245/60R15. I've been unsuccessful in trying to find
exact replacements of the originals.
<
Terri - the original tires were Goodyear NCT's all around. It is
normally not a good idea to mix tire manufacturers or tire
types front to rear or side to side due to compromised
handling characteristics. A very acceptable replacement
for the original NCTs are Yokohama AVS Intermeditates.
They are available in the correct sizes from Tire Rack for
well under $100 per wheel.
Mike Griese
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Subject: [DML] Re: alarm/door lights/interesting occurance
Date: 23-Sep-99 16:00:22 -0500
Bob - This is a common problem with DeLoreans. Those
pegs are actually switches. The switch is spring loaded to
be normally closed when the peg is not pressed. Pressing
the peg opens the circuit. There are wires attached to the
switches under the dashboard. Normally, the lights not working
are due to the wires falling off the switch. The switches
are supposed to have a rubber cap that extends the switch
to ensure it contacts the door panel. You can't really tell
if the switch is working while you are closing the door because
the switch is not activated until the door is almost completely
closed.
The second switch on the driver's side is for the ignition key
reminder buzzer.
Michael A. Griese
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Subject: [DML] Re: Replacement Tires for the Originals?
Date: 23-Sep-99 17:42:16 -0400
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On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 hobiedmc@hotmail.com wrote:
> The original tires for the DMC are Goodyear NCT 195/60HR14 (front) and
> Goodyear Eagle GT 245/60R15. I've been unsuccessful in trying to find
> exact replacements of the originals.
This is not correct. The original tires are all NCTs, 195/60HR14 front
and 235/60HR15 rear. The best replacement tire is the Yokohama AVS
Intermediate, which is the only reasonable street/performance tire
available in both sizes, to my knowledge.
It is easy to find tires in either size. The trick is finding the *same
model* tire in both sizes. If you have different kinds of tire (or, in
some cases, even the same model tire from different production runs) on
front and back, your handling can be affected (usually adversely). How
much it is affected depends on which specific tires you're using and how
hard you drive the car. Some people actually like to do it this way - put
snow-oriented all season tires on the rear and rain oriented tires on the
front, for maximum traction in adverse weather. I've never heard of this
on a DeLorean.
> for the rear that has the same speed rating. Is having a different
> speed rating (front and rear) a problem? Should I go with a different
Not in and of itself, no.
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Subject: [DML] Brakes
Date: 23-Sep-99 17:53:46 -0400
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Recently I went to look at another delorean for sale. This delorean was
not a "show car" there were a few dings on the body, and the interior was
wretched looking. It does however have a new engine clutch and brakes. I
test drove it, and when I first got in the brake felt more like a clutch
than the clutch. When I pressed on the brake, there was no resistence and
the car was not slowing until the brake was practically to the floor. (like
a clutch) Once the brake was close to the floor, it compressed like a
normal brake. I was just curious IF any other people had this problem, and
how they fixed it. My automatic does not do this, so I assume this is not
normal for a delorean.
Thanks
Joe P.
VIN 6808
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Date: 23-Sep-99 18:40:28 -0400
In a message dated 9/23/99 10:01:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, BKing@maxis.com
writes:
<< However, the driver's door lights still do not work. >>
Bob,
I don't have an answer for you but I have a better question for ya....My
drivers side door lights only go on when the door is at its lowest part of
being open (right before it is pushed to be closed) It has been like this
for as long as I owned it. I just never understood that, I mean the power
is getting to the lights but as soon as the door opens anymore the lights
quickly go out. Would anyone have any answers?
Later,
Nick
VIN# 1852
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Date: 23-Sep-99 17:49:58 -0500
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You're correct on the front tires, but the original rear tires were also
NCT's in a 235/60-15, not the Eagle GT's in a 245 as you stated. I know,
I've got the original tires in storage. Plus the owner's manual gives the
sizes.
If at all possible, stick with the same brand AND model of tire for the
front and the back. Mixing tire models could in some cases cause handling
problems. There are a few different models of tires that fit the D that
come in the original 195/60-14 and 235/60-15. Speed ratings of H, V, or Z
or OK, plus a couple of other ones that I don't recall. The speed rating
isn't really all that important unless you plan to drive at very high
SUSTAINED speeds. V and Z are both rated faster (better) than H.
One of the best currently being produced is the Yokohama AVS Intermediate.
You can get these from the Tire Rack (http://www.tirerack.com/) for about
$350 for the set of 4 delivered to your door. They'll recommend a local
tire shop to mount and balance if you ask them. I've got a set of the AVS
tires and can highly recommend them. Smoother ride than the NCTs and better
handling IMHO. Of course I am comparing them to 18 year old tires :) I'll
also highly recommend the Tire Rack. I've been buying tires from them for
about 3 years and have never had any problems. Most of the time I have the
tires within 2 days of ordering.
Mark N
VIN 6820
PS--I'll sell my NCT's to you if you're really interested. 3 of the 4 are
in near perfect condition with 6/32 of tread or more, and the 4th is nearly
as good, but shows some wear in the center of the tread. No cracking or
checking of the rubber.
At 09:59 PM 9/22/99 -0700, you wrote:
>The original tires for the DMC are Goodyear NCT 195/60HR14 (front) and
>Goodyear Eagle GT 245/60R15. I've been unsuccessful in trying to find
>exact replacements of the originals.
>
>I've been able to locate another brand of tires for the front that are
>H rated. However, it's been a challenge to locate replacement tires
>for the rear that has the same speed rating. Is having a different
>speed rating (front and rear) a problem? Should I go with a different
>size tires to have match up the speed rating on the tires? What would
>you guys recommend as replacements tires? I would prefer to get the
>originals if that was possible.
>
>Terri
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Subject: [DML] Re: alarm/door lights/interesting occurance
Date: 23-Sep-99 17:59:03 -0500
In-reply-to: <A538153C8E25D111>92FA00805F15959502269104
DMC Joe already covered most of this, but one thing I'll mention is that a
lot of DeLoreans came with small pieces of rubber hose pushed onto the end
of the switch to allow the switch to operate even if the door wasn't
aligned quite right. As an alternative for (or addition to) your piece of
hard rubber, you may want to look at adding a piece of hose on to these.
Use something fairly flexible like vacuum hose.
Driver's side: two switches. One for the lights, the other for the key
buzzer. Passenger side: One switch for the lights.
Mark N
VIN 6820
At 11:05 PM 9/22/99 -0700, you wrote:
<snip>
>Both of these problems were fixed. It appears that the little 'push peg'
>(for lack of a better term) on the dash/console near the hinge of the
>drivers door never touched the activating plate located on the door that it
>is supposed to touch.
<snip>
Something I did notice during all of this is that there
>are supposed to be 2 of those 'push pegs' at the driver's door hinge, an
>upper and a lower. I am missing the lower one. What function does this
>lower peg serve?
>
>Bob
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Subject: [DML] The body dies are in the ocean - but can THIS be true? Amazing!
Date: 23-Sep-99 16:54:55 -0700
Hello all!
I was surfing the Net and came across the site for DeLorean Switzerland. At
the marketplace called "Service" there is a very interesting ad for all
DeLorean owners. The company is German and CAN PRODUCE EXACTLY THE SAME
STAINLESS STEEL BODY PARTS!
And for us Europeans, the company has a very interesting fix for our
rectangular license plate in the rear...See for yourself!
Check out the site at: www.delorean.ch
Here's the intro:
"Working together with several companies we are now
able to offer you a really unique variety of products
and services concerning the DeLorean car.
As our company¦s name tells you:
We are into steel products.
But we¦re not talking about
ordinary steel or even
sheet metal:
Our business is STAINLESS STEEL !!!
The original DeLorean material. Highest quality SS 304
We offer:
complete production/reconstruction of all DeLorean
steel parts (even fenders)
exclusive single-part production and remodelling (everything is possible)
repair service and planishing of stainless steel parts
complete regrinding or refreshing of ground parts
special cleaning and sealing of stainless steel surfaces
long lasting varnishing of stainless steel (with guaranty)
baking varnishing and powder varnishing of stainless steel parts (absolutely
heat-resistent)
laser cut of any copy/copy providing
series production of DeLorean parts
Design & Art items round the DeLorean
various DeLorean accessories
24 carat gold plating of stainless steel parts
This is the address I found:
DeLorean Steel Products
Sensensteinweg 2 , D-34253 Lohfelden
Germany
fon: 0049 (0)561-51 90 410
fax: 0049 (0)561-51 90 420
e-Mail: De-Lorean-Steel-Products@gmx.net
Sincerely;
Mr. Stian Birkeland
NORWAY
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Subject: [DML] Re: Idler pulley bolts
Date: 23-Sep-99 21:09:57 -0400
Greg
Just a question why wouldn't you use a helicoil before drilling out the
bolt hole and drill/tapping a larger hole?
Mike
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Subject: [DML] Re: North Carolina DeLoreans
Date: 23-Sep-99 22:21:30 -0400
Scott,
As far as I know, there is not a NC Delorean club. However, being a NC
D owner, I would like to see this happen. On July 10th of this year was a
casual meeting of Deloreans in Clemmons, NC where 4 NC cars and 1 Virginia
car attended. It would be nice to locate more NC Ds and see if we could
arrange something in the future again.....with more cars of course. I
personally would be happy to meet with you and your D. So NC D owners, let
yourself be known!
Additionally, I am looking forward to meeting all of the D owners who will be
attending the Cruise-In event. See you all soon.
Darren Decker
Vin 5000
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Subject: [DML] What is it about Left Front Fenders?
Date: 23-Sep-99 21:42:52 -0500
HI! I have heard previous posts in the past about the left front fenders
but
didn't ever give them much thought. Eariier today though, I was reading
my
Gold Portfolio book and I came across where it mentioned the gentleman's
name who bought all of the rest of the leftover stock at the warehouse in
Colombus (about 400 more DeLoreans) except left front fenders. Why not
the fenders? Did they become lost? Did he just not want the l. f.
fenders?
Please help me clear up my confusion.
Thanks,
Robert
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Subject: [DML] POLL: How many people own more than 1 delorean.Or other Gullwinged cars
Date: 24-Sep-99 0:40:51 -0700
Parts cars not included,Project cars are included
----
Please select one of the following:
o 1 and a Project
o 2 Deloreans
o 2 Deloreans and a project Delorean
o 3 Deloreans
o 4 or more Deloreans (specfiy how many)
o Deloreans and a Bricklin
o Delorean and other Gullwing?
o Still dreaming about owning 1
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Subject: [DML] tires..
Date: 24-Sep-99 4:30:21 -0400
greetings..
my d has bf goodrich comp ta's on it..
they seem to work fine..
mike cutting
11434
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Subject: [DML] Re: POLL: How many people own more than 1 delorean.Or otherGullwinged cars
Date: 24-Sep-99 9:04:22 -0400
I guess no one is expected to just have 1 DeLorean?!
cbl302@msn.com wrote:
>
> Parts cars not included,Project cars are included
> ----
>
> Please select one of the following:
>
> o 1 and a Project
> o 2 Deloreans
> o 2 Deloreans and a project Delorean
> o 3 Deloreans
> o 4 or more Deloreans (specfiy how many)
> o Deloreans and a Bricklin
> o Delorean and other Gullwing?
> o Still dreaming about owning 1
>
> by going to the following Web form:
>
> http://www.egroups.com/vote?id=938158851039
>
> Thank you!
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Subject: [DML] Babe Magnet D
Date: 24-Sep-99 9:26:53 -0400
I wrote this to a good friend, Dan, who arranged our meeting with JZD
the day before my birthday on June 13, 1999. Dan's quite a guy!
I thought it would make an interesting post.
_______________________________________________
Dan,
I'm engaged! Yes! I'm very, very happy. She didn't rip my heart out,
but she does have it! She stole it!
I know it's only been 6 weeks, but when its right, it's right!
We're getting married this New Year's Eve on Block Island.
Now that I'm not really interested in any other women, they seem to be
crawling out of the woodwork!
HEY! I've found out how to turn the D into a babe magnet! It's really
quite simple.
You need a Bob. Bob is my new dog. He's a sheepdog, you know, a big
dog with white hair covering his eyes, gray on the back side. I took
him out in the D for the first time last night and he likes it in the
back between the seats with his big head sticking just forward of the
passenger seat. Bob likes it so much I left him in the D last night.
He likes cars, I think the D will be his permanent home. He is so much
fun. He never disobeys, never made a mess, (well he does shed, but
only the tiniest amount) he obeys every command I give him, and he eats
almost nothing, well that's not quite accurate, he doesn't eat anything.
Have you gotten the idea yet?
Bob's an inanimate object. But I always pat him on the head and tell
him to guard the D when I leave him in it. Most people think he's a
real dog when the see him! Bob's so much fun! He's just right for the
D!
Bob cost $ 40 at COSTCO. I gave his identical twin, named Bob, to my
fiancT a few weeks ago. Before she was my fiancT! I think Bob had
something to do with the way things turned out. Today we pick out, and
buy if it's just right, an engagement ring, and look for a condo at
Breakwater Key in Stratford CT, where I keep my boat, "Webe Jammin'".
I'm a very lucky and happy fellow.
___________________________________________________
For the DML:
If you buy a Bob dog, name him Bob. Or, give him (or her) your name.
And email me with the name and where you're located, I'd like to keep
track of Bob's
brothers. I'm pretty sure Bob will bring you good luck!
All the Best!
Bob VIN 10961
PS: If you can't find Bob, I be happy to buy a Brother and send Bob to
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I wrote this to a good friend, Dan, who arranged our meeting with JZD the
day before my birthday on June 13, 1999. Dan's quite a guy!
<p>I thought it would make an interesting post.
<br>_______________________________________________
<p>Dan,
<p>I'm engaged! Yes! I'm very, very happy. She didn't
rip my heart out,
<br>but she does have it! She stole it!
<p>I know it's only been 6 weeks, but when its right, it's right!
<p>We're getting married this New Year's Eve on Block Island.
<p>Now that I'm not really interested in any other women, they seem to
be
<br>crawling out of the woodwork!
<p><b>HEY!</b> <b> I've found out how to turn the D into a babe
magnet! It's really</b>
<br><b>quite simple.</b>
<p>You need a Bob. Bob is my new dog. He's a sheepdog, you
know, a big
<br>dog with white hair covering his eyes, gray on the back side.
I took
<br>him out in the D for the first time last night and he likes it in the
<br>back between the seats with his big head sticking just forward of the
<br>passenger seat. Bob likes it so much I left him in the D last
night.
<br>He likes cars, I think the D will be his permanent home. He is
so much
<br>fun. He never disobeys, never made a mess, (well he does
shed, but
<br>only the tiniest amount) he obeys every command I give him, and he
eats
<br>almost nothing, well that's not quite accurate, he doesn't eat anything.
<p>Have you gotten the idea yet?
<p>Bob's an inanimate object. But I always pat him on the head and
tell
<br>him to guard the D when I leave him in it. Most people think
he's a
<br>real dog when the see him! Bob's so much fun! He's just
right for the
<br>D!
<p>Bob cost $ 40 at COSTCO. I gave his identical twin, named Bob,
to my
<br>fiancé a few weeks ago. Before she was my fiancé!
I think Bob had
<br>something to do with the way things turned out. Today we pick
out, and
<br>buy if it's just right, an engagement ring, and look for a condo at
<br>Breakwater Key in Stratford CT, where I keep my boat, "Webe Jammin'".
<p>I'm a very lucky and happy fellow.
<br>___________________________________________________
<p>For the DML:
<p>If you buy a Bob dog, name him Bob. Or, give him (or her) your
name.
<p>And email me with the name and where you're located, I'd like to keep
track of Bob's
<br>brothers. I'm pretty sure Bob will bring you good luck!
<p>All the Best!
<p>Bob VIN 10961
<p>PS: If you can't find Bob, I be happy to buy a Brother and send Bob
to you.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Brakes
Date: 24-Sep-99 9:29:57 -0400
I have the same problem with my '83. Although I haven't been able to get it
up to any decent spees as of yet, because of my warm up regulator not
functioning, I did get to drive it down my driveway, and the brakes didn't
seem to be friendly with me either. I don't know what caused this, but after
the regulator is done with, I plan on pulling the brakes off and giving them
a good check.
Scott
#16738
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Subject: [DML] Horn
Date: 24-Sep-99 9:35:19 -0400
I know this may sound like a really dumb question, but this being not only my
first DeLorean, but the first one I've ever been truly close to, I have this
question to offer up; is that the real horn? It sounds like the love child
of the road runner and the three tenors. Is it supposed to be that weak, or
is it possible that the low end is not functioning?
Also, while I'm asking dumb questions, here's another. How do you get
into the speaker housings in the front? My dash speaker is blown and needs
replaced, but I'm not sure how to get into it, and don't want to risk tearing
it up. Thanks!
Scott
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Subject: [DML] pic request
Date: 24-Sep-99 6:53:12 -0700
ok, this may seem morbid, but does anybody have any pictures of
Deloreans that are totaled? Ones that were in bad accidents and such.
I've seen a delorean chared to death, but have never seen one totaled.
And if you have any information on how it happend and where it is now,
that would be great. Thanks for your help!
Erik Geerdink
Michigan Delorean owners...anyone? anyone? let me know where you are.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Brakes
Date: 24-Sep-99 9:10:22 -0500
<SNIP>
>wretched looking. It does however have a new engine clutch and brakes. I
Had the brakes been "pumped up" after the new parts were installed? When
new pads are installed, the calipers must be forced backwards in order to
fit nice fat new pads around the rotor. This action will force brake fluid
back into the reservoir at the master cyl. (and sometimes, out on to the
floor) Now assuming that the brake job went smoothly (i.e. didn't have to
replace a caliper, no brake lines broke) and some replacement brake fluid
was added to the reservoir, maybe the new parts need to be seated by
pumping the brake a few times. Check fluid level first and check for fluid
on the floor at each tire (leaks).
Todd "Project Car 4 Sure" B.
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Subject: [DML] interior
Date: 24-Sep-99 8:43:31 -0700
has anybody ever redone there seats? put all noguhide on them or
leather? my seats has seen better days and my dad and I are going to
get a pro to do it this spring, but i was just wondering how much it
cost. also, what would it cost to get the front dash redone? mine has
a couple cracks that need to be gone. thanks for the help
Erik Geerdink
vin 4512
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Subject: [DML] Re: What is it about Left Front Fenders?
Date: 24-Sep-99 12:50:18 -0400
In-reply-to: <19990923>.215350.-189305.12.DeloreanDude
On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Robert Greenhaw wrote:
> name who bought all of the rest of the leftover stock at the warehouse
> in Colombus (about 400 more DeLoreans) except left front fenders.
> Why not the fenders? Did they become lost? Did he just not want the
Due to an error when the company was still in business (Grand Delusions
says it was a clerical error) there were not very many spare LF fenders
produced. There are plenty of spare parts, including body panels, for the
rest of the car, except for that.
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Subject: [DML] Re: NCT Tires
Date: 24-Sep-99 13:55:30 -0400
I have checked with Coker twice and they deny having any reference for this tire.
-C
3876
GIGAWAT
-----Original Message-----
From: robert parker [SMTP:roberthparker@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 2:18 PM
To: dmcnews@egroups.com
Subject: [DML] Re: NCT Tires
I was told by a DMC owner @ the Auburn, IN auction that the NCT's are
available from Coker(sp?) in Nashville, TN. He obtained his from them not
all that long ago. Any further info. on this? Robert VIN 6924
>From: rybeth@flash.net
>Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com
>To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
>Subject: [DML] NCT Tires
>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:15:28 -0700
>
>Hi List,
>
> The original tires on the DeLorean were Goodyear NCTs. If memory
>serves, Goodyear stopped making that tire. Why exactly is this? About
>what year did they discontinue making them? Were the tires on the BTTF
>DeLorean NCTs? Thanks.
>
>Ryan Arsenault
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: The body dies are in the ocean - but can THIS be true? Amazing!
Date: 24-Sep-99 14:13:04 -0500
Sounds like the Northern Ireland government may have secretly saved the
molds and sold them.
This is very interesting. Almost too good to be true.
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Subject: [DML] Check this out!!
Date: 24-Sep-99 13:02:18 -0700
Dear List,
I welcome you all to my updated web-site dedicated to
the Delorean.
New items include...
- More Custom Delorean pics
- My meeting with John Z. Delorean this summer,
including a questionnaire he answered. Find out the
true reason the Delorean was called the DMC-12.
- Pictures of wrecked Deloreans
- Info on my local Delorean club
- New articles, including the steamy Playboy
interview with Delorean!!!
- Delorean magazine advertisements
- Brand new Delorean Quizzes, test your Delorean
knowledge.
- Delorean service information
- BTTF section update
- Huge Links section with descriptions and ratings
I hope you all take a look and enjoy the site.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Horn
Date: 24-Sep-99 14:29:16 -0700
Scott,
There are two horns on the DeLorean. First, make sure they
are both working. Then marvel at how little sound they
produce.
The front speakers are accessed from under the dash. It is
easier if you remove the seat (it is only 4 nuts per seat,
from the bottom of the car.) The rears speakers are MUCH
more complicated to get to.
Hank Breer
1141
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Subject: [DML] Re: What is it about Left Front Fenders?
Date: 24-Sep-99 14:52:51 -0700
In-reply-to: <PINE>.LNX.4.04.9909241248190.17503-100000
At 12:50 PM 9/24/99 -0400, you wrote:
>On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Robert Greenhaw wrote:
>
>> name who bought all of the rest of the leftover stock at the warehouse
>> in Colombus (about 400 more DeLoreans) except left front fenders.
>> Why not the fenders? Did they become lost? Did he just not want the
>
>Due to an error when the company was still in business (Grand Delusions
>says it was a clerical error) there were not very many spare LF fenders
>produced. There are plenty of spare parts, including body panels, for the
>rest of the car, except for that.
>
>
Sorry to say this but the above is just not true today.....Houston has
plenty of these LHF fenders although the price is still very high.
Lee
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From: MICHA@SMTP (Michael Reinemuth) {micha@delorean.de}
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Subject: [DML] Re: The body dies are in the ocean - but can THIS be true? Amazing!
Date: 25-Sep-99 0:19:20 +0200
No Steve you are wrong, the had no moulds...
I called Dirk Wacker (the guy behind DeLorean Steel Products) two days ago asking for the
fender reproduktion. He told me they build the fenders from one sheet metal by hand without a
mould. But he told me also that they had not done one single piece at this time. Actually they
only removed dents from a rear quarter panel and produced some key- and plateholders.
I told him I want to write an article for "stainless" (german D¦ mag) about the reconstruction
of an right front fender. I had got a "testpiece" from an friend of mine having an accident
some weeks ago. He told me that they are willing to do this, but he can not guarantee for a
perfect result.
Now he is on vacation the next four weeks, but right behind I will made the test and let you
guys know the result...
SteveDMC schrieb:
> Sounds like the Northern Ireland government may have secretly saved the
> molds and sold them.
>
> This is very interesting. Almost too good to be true.
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Subject: [DML] Re: What is it about Left Front Fenders?
Date: 24-Sep-99 17:36:56 -0500
> HI! I have heard previous posts in the past about the left front fenders
> but
I attended one of the Kapac open houses about three years ago and Marvin
Kantz, the fellow that bought the remaining DeLorean parts in Ireland and
shipped them to Columbus, was there. James Espy and I walked with him
through some of the isles of parts and as we walked he related some of the
story about his obtaining those parts. All of the parts were crated and the
boxes were marked as to their contents. There were two crates, one marked
right front fenders and one marked left. The time involved in shipping the
crates to Columbus and getting them unpacked was lengthy. When they finaly
got to the crates with the front fenders, the left fender crate had been
mis-marked. He had two crates of right front fenders. He led us to belive
that he had left some parts behind. I seem to remember reading that he
brought enough to build 1,000 DeLoreans. Anyway, he said his people went
back to Belfast to find the left fenders but anything left behind had been
bulldozed into the dirt and destroyed. Some of his recollections conflicted
with what I'd heard John DeLorean say in talk show interviews but I have no
reason to doubt that this story is true.
Bruce Benson
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Subject: [DML] Porsche meets DeLorean...
Date: 24-Sep-99 19:24:44 -0400
That's right. Porsche meets DeLorean! Well, in my car it does at least. I just put in a set of Porsche Boxster seats. They're power and heated. My interior is grey, but the seats are black and they look fantastic. The only drawback so far,
Just so everyone knows, this was not an easy job at all! It took me many hours, and multiple mistakes to get them to fit. I will hopefully have pics soon if anyone is interested.
Drive Painted!!! :o¦
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>That's right. Porsche meets DeLorean! Well, in
my car it does at least. I just put in a set of Porsche Boxster seats. They're
power and heated. My interior is grey, but the seats are black and they look
fantastic. The only drawback so far, is that I'm now sitting up a little bit
higher than before. I will eventually pull the drivers side out again in an
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Just so everyone knows, this was not an easy job
at all! It took me many hours, and multiple mistakes to get them to fit. I will
hopefully have pics soon if anyone is interested. </FONT></DIV>
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Date: 24-Sep-99 16:32:42 -0700
Just a quick key note or two.
My DMC keys should generally be available at your DMC dealer...their cost
will be slightly higher than my direct price but you don't have to wait for
ever...:-)
I will soon have both the single and double DMC key systems.......more when
the door key is ready...:-)
I am currently working on the DMC key with a light in it. This "NEW" DMC is
indistinguishable from the original, but will have a soft Brass key (less
wear and tear on the locks) and a long lasting battery and LED instead of
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>
Sounds like the Northern Ireland government may have secretly saved the
molds and sold them.
This is very interesting. Almost too good to be true.<
The Northern Ireland Government was the same as the British Government i
think the moulds went the way of Shergar gone never to be seen again.
John Hanley
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Subject: [DML] Re: North Carolina DeLoreans
Date: 24-Sep-99 21:24:43 -0400
Where and when is the cruise-in?
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From: Iznodmad@aol.com <Iznodmad@aol.com>
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Date: Friday, September 24, 1999 8:59 AM
Subject: [DML] Re: North Carolina DeLoreans
>Scott,
> As far as I know, there is not a NC Delorean club. However, being a
NC
>D owner, I would like to see this happen. On July 10th of this year was a
>casual meeting of Deloreans in Clemmons, NC where 4 NC cars and 1 Virginia
>car attended. It would be nice to locate more NC Ds and see if we could
>arrange something in the future again.....with more cars of course. I
>personally would be happy to meet with you and your D. So NC D owners, let
>yourself be known!
>
>Additionally, I am looking forward to meeting all of the D owners who will
be
>attending the Cruise-In event. See you all soon.
>
>Darren Decker
>Vin 5000
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Horn
Date: 24-Sep-99 22:30:35 -0400
You can get to the Front speakers from underneath the dash, its a little
awkward though
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Subject: [DML] Re: Babe Magnet D
Date: 24-Sep-99 20:47:36 -0700
he rober my birth day is also on june 13th i got my
delorean on my 16th birth day this year
pretty cool
efren 16072
--- Robert Hlavacek <rahlavacek@snet.net> wrote:
> I wrote this to a good friend, Dan, who arranged our
> meeting with JZD
> the day before my birthday on June 13, 1999. Dan's
> quite a guy!
>
> I thought it would make an interesting post.
> _______________________________________________
>
> Dan,
>
> I'm engaged! Yes! I'm very, very happy. She
> didn't rip my heart out,
> but she does have it! She stole it!
>
> I know it's only been 6 weeks, but when its right,
> it's right!
>
> We're getting married this New Year's Eve on Block
> Island.
>
> Now that I'm not really interested in any other
> women, they seem to be
> crawling out of the woodwork!
>
> HEY! I've found out how to turn the D into a babe
> magnet! It's really
>
> quite simple.
>
> You need a Bob. Bob is my new dog. He's a
> sheepdog, you know, a big
> dog with white hair covering his eyes, gray on the
> back side. I took
> him out in the D for the first time last night and
> he likes it in the
> back between the seats with his big head sticking
> just forward of the
> passenger seat. Bob likes it so much I left him in
> the D last night.
> He likes cars, I think the D will be his permanent
> home. He is so much
> fun. He never disobeys, never made a mess, (well
> he does shed, but
> only the tiniest amount) he obeys every command I
> give him, and he eats
> almost nothing, well that's not quite accurate, he
> doesn't eat anything.
>
> Have you gotten the idea yet?
>
> Bob's an inanimate object. But I always pat him on
> the head and tell
> him to guard the D when I leave him in it. Most
> people think he's a
> real dog when the see him! Bob's so much fun! He's
> just right for the
> D!
>
> Bob cost $ 40 at COSTCO. I gave his identical twin,
> named Bob, to my
> fiancT a few weeks ago. Before she was my fiancT!
> I think Bob had
> something to do with the way things turned out.
> Today we pick out, and
>
> buy if it's just right, an engagement ring, and look
> for a condo at
> Breakwater Key in Stratford CT, where I keep my
> boat, "Webe Jammin'".
>
> I'm a very lucky and happy fellow.
> ___________________________________________________
>
> For the DML:
>
> If you buy a Bob dog, name him Bob. Or, give him
> (or her) your name.
>
> And email me with the name and where you're located,
> I'd like to keep
> track of Bob's
> brothers. I'm pretty sure Bob will bring you good
> luck!
>
> All the Best!
>
> Bob VIN 10961
>
> PS: If you can't find Bob, I be happy to buy a
> Brother and send Bob to
> you.
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Stamping New Body Panels
Date: 24-Sep-99 22:53:18 -0500
Here's a question I've never seen addressed.
In Stainless Steel Illusion - John Lamm mentions that a company called Milford Fabricating stamped out the first prototype's stainless panels based on the pine-die model carved out by Bill Collin's design team.
What ever happened to the prototype dies?
mike@mrcopies.com
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Here's a question I've never seen
addressed.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>In Stainless Steel Illusion - John Lamm mentions
that a company called Milford Fabricating stamped out the first prototype's
stainless panels based on the pine-die model carved out by Bill Collin's design
team.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>What ever happened to the prototype dies?
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>VIN #17089</FONT></DIV>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Babe Magnet D
Date: 25-Sep-99 2:38:35 -0400
OK - so both dogs are Bob. Who the hell do you think you are - George Forman??
Maybe I need a COSTCO membership :)
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>OK - so both dogs are Bob. Who the hell do
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