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Subject: [DML] Re: help me PLEASE
Date: 12-Sep-99 10:21:35 -0500
Erik
Needless to say, this is SERIOUS. I suspect that while working
with the hoses to get the last spark plug out, you fractured one of
the fuel lines to the injectors. These can be replaced through
the normal parts places or you can try a local Volvo dealership
or any other good foreign car specialists.
DO NOT START THE CAR UNTIL THIS IS FIXED!!!
I had a similar problem with the leftmost rear injector on
my car. It actually caught fire while my wife and I were
riding in the car. Fortunately, I noticed the flames about
when they started. Diet Dr. Pepper is a pretty good fire
retardent. The only damage was some soot on the engine
cover and some blistered insulation on the wiring harness
in the area.
Mike Griese
Storage Software Development Manager
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Subject: [DML] Orginal Tire Needed
Date: 12-Sep-99 11:38:34 -0400
I'm in need of an orginal rear tire to match my others. The donut
dosen't do much for my D.
Please email or call me: (8-5) 203.783.2729 (home) 203.377.7551
See "A DeLorean Story" for details on what happened.
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Subject: [DML] A DeLorean Story
Date: 12-Sep-99 11:58:37 -0400
Leaving the car show in Naugatuck last Friday night, I ran over
something on Rt.8. Everything was fine for a few miles, but just before
my exit I felt my left rear tire going flat By the bottom of the ramp,
when I just pulled over, I saw it was destroyed. I put on the donut -
FLAT! It's now about 11 PM. Tried to wave down a car to get a pump or
something. no luck.
then a women with a little kid in the back seat pulls up and asks if she
can help. No pump or can of flat stuff, but she offers me her donut.
Almost fit! She appologises she couldn't help me!
I now go off in search of an air pump or flat fix can. A quarter mile is
a bar and someone gives me 1/2 an old can. I buy them a drink and have
one myself. Hear comes the good part:
I get back to the D to find a new can of flat fixed next to my tire!!
That blew me away. I just stood there for a minute feeling goodness.
What a nice thing! I don't even know who she is.
There's only a little more. The old 1/2 can didn't work. The new one
did. Back to the bar, closed it up, partied all night with new friends,
saw sunrise on my boat, went Bluefishing (no luck), SCUBA diving with my
sun in the PM, and then to bed early Saturday night.
Bob # 10961
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Subject: [DML] Re: Turbo and Audio
Date: 12-Sep-99 12:27:07 -0400
Dear. DMC drivers;
I am one who posted 'Turbo and Audio'. And I am very sorry
for confusing folks. Yes, they just sell Only 'Turbo' itself. not 'Kit'.
Anyway, Thank you for correcting and answering me.
Blacknight
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Subject: [DML] Re: Kill Switch
Date: 12-Sep-99 12:16:59 -0500
In-reply-to: <19990912040256>.RORM24367
000Importance: Normal
Hey, I thought that when you tripped the inertia switch, it unlocked the
doors. Does this mean that if you use it as a kill switch, you can't lock
your car?
Also, I'd think that the inertia switch wasn't rated for frequent throws.
Wouldn't it wear out after awhile?
Besides, I have no fear that my car will be stolen. I'm more worried about
the "DMC" on my grill.
Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DMC Joe [mailto:DMCJOE@att.net]
> Subject: [DML] Re: Kill Switch
>
> You already have a kill switch built into the car, it's your inertia
> switch. Just pull the plunger up when leave the car and push it back down
> when you return. Labor time: 0, parts 0.00.
>
> DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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Subject: [DML] Re: fuel pump? please help!
Date: 12-Sep-99 14:28:23 -0400
Erik,
The part you're describing is the fuel distributor. My limited understanding
is that the gas travels through the fuel distributor before being sent to the
individual cylinders. You have a serious problem!!! My mechanic has told
me, as have several D owners, that a new distributor costs around $1800 to
$2000.
There is another possibility, however. Call Python Corporation in Stanton,
CA at 1-800-959-2865. I've been told that they rebulid the Bosch fuel
distributors that are found on the DeLorean at a very reasonable price. I've
never used this company so I cannot vouch for their work, but my mechanic has
used them for this very operation, and he speaks very highly of them.
Perhaps someone on the list has had Python rebuild a fuel distributor for
them and can tell you the results.
Brian
VIN 1597
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Subject: [DML] Door ajar light and rear window defogger
Date: 12-Sep-99 14:37:03 -0400
I have a very strange problem. When I turn on the rear window defogger, the
door ajar light comes on and there is a clicking noise coming from the relay
compartment. What is happening? I was told to unplug the door relay from
its circuit breaker to make the locks manual and to keep from burning out the
solenoids; however, the clicking sound can still be heard if the rear
defogger is activated and the door ajar light comes on. Can anybody give me
a clue as to how to solve this?
Brian
VIN 1597
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Subject: [DML] Re: overheated DeLorean
Date: 12-Sep-99 21:06:30 +0000
This is not something to joke about. There have been far too many DeLorean
engine fires, and it is a subject that seems to be very seldom discussed.
Over the years I have parted out 3 DeLoreans that were destroyed by engine
fires, one a twin turbo. Plus I have seen several others that I passed on
due to their condition or price. DOA even published a bunch of photos some
years ago of destroyed cars, but when I pointed out to them that considering
the 8,000+ total run of cars, the number of ones totalled by fire was
extremely high, they refused to acknowledge that there might be a problem.
By comparison, Saturn recalled tens of thousands of cars when only a very
small number had had fires. I asked DOA's "technical experts" to look into
the problem for the good of all owners (since in our case there is no one to
recall the cars) but they chose to ignore it and me, apparently presuming it
would go away. That, more than my problems with DOA management, was what
finally caused me to cut my ties with that group. Again, I know no one
wants to hear this, but the risk of fuel fed engine fires in our cars is a
major problem. You need to keep a good eye on your engine compartment, and
fix any fuel leaks BEFORE ever running the car again. Remember, the fuel
distributer, with 10+ fuel lines going to it, sits right over the top of the
ignition distributer. And ALWAYS carry a fire extinguisher - it may save
your car and your life.
Lets see if the DML has the guts (which DOA did not) to tackle this issue.
I hope the moderators will see fit to agree.
Darryl Tinnerstet
McCleary, WA
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Subject: [DML] Re: headliners
Date: 12-Sep-99 17:13:44 -0400
Our D had similar problems, not as bad though, the foam had disintegrated,
and the cloth was hanging down a bit. Ed at Delorean One in chatsworth is
replacing them in our car but I would assume any Delorean service center
could either replace them or you could order the headliners from them and do
it yourself...
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Subject: [DML] Re: Miss. Delorean eyebrows
Date: 12-Sep-99 17:55:34 -0400
>From: "Dylan Seals" <jeepcherokee@bigfoot.com>
This means the Facia has melted or stretched above the head lights.
Probably from a lot of direct sun light.
Dylan Seals
Vin...Still Looking.
From: "Jesse D. Sightler" <jsight@mindspring.com>
>JCox4001@aol.com wrote:
> > The front facia has some
> > SERIOUS eyebrows.
>
>I've heard this expression before, but still have no clue what it refers
>to. :-) Could you please explain to me what it means for a Delorean to
>have "eyebrows"?
>
>---------------
>Jesse D. Sightler
>http://www.biddin.com/
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Subject: [DML] Top Speed
Date: 12-Sep-99 15:25:09 -0700
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Hi Everyone,
A friend of mine told me that he is not able to get his D past 85-87
mph. I'm curious, did D's ever come with govenors for speed in them, or
did some North American dealers put them in aftermarket?? I'm thinking
there must be something wrong with it! If anyone could feed some
insight on this, it would be appreciated, also could someone please
tell me what the approx. top speed is?
Thanks,
Richard
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Subject: [DML] New DMC Picture in Vault.
Date: 12-Sep-99 16:34:03 -0700
Hello List.
As I was browsing through the vault at eGroups, I noticed someone uploaded a
picture of what appears to be the New DeLorean. The picture seems like it was made
on a computer and looks very much like a Lamborghini. Who uploaded the picture?
The Genius
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Subject: [DML] weird blue wires/tube things
Date: 12-Sep-99 19:57:59 -0400
Hey list,
While trying to get my car to run better I came across a possible
problem that might help me. First off I have to know there are 2 different
ECU units correct? One is called the Lambda ECU and the other is the one
that controls the Idle Speed Regulator, right??. I took off the wood panel
behind the drivers side and saw that there were 2 blue tube things...one was
coming off of the Lambda ECU and the other was coming from an other unit that
was mounted underneath the other ECU (the one that controls the Idle Speed
Regulator) One of my questions is what do these 2 blue tube things do. And
also I have no power going to my frequency valve and the Control Pressure
regulator. Would that cause my car not to run right? Right now when I turn
it on the car will rev up to about 3500-4000 RMP but then if u let go of the
gas it will idle at around 1500-2000 RMP. But then when you put your foot
all the way on the gas pedal again it will work its way back up to about
3000RMP. But again if u have your foot lightly on the gas it will go up to
about 3500RPM. At first I thought the problem was mechanical so I put a
different Fuel Distributor on it, I got new injectors, the fuel pump is
working so I am narrowing the problem down to something electrical so I am
still trying to figure it out. I am also thinking it might be the Oxygen
sensor, maybe that isn't sending a pulse to the Lambda ECU and maybe thats
why I don't have any power going to the Frequency Valve. Could that be a
possibility? DMC Joe does that sound right? Anyways, I am selling this car
so I want to get it to run better for the future owner. Any and all help
would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks a lot,
Nick
VIN# 1852....for sale....e-mail for info
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Subject: [DML] Life of catylitic converter
Date: 12-Sep-99 19:58:03 -0400
Does anyone know the life of the catylic converter. I had an old
Bonneville with a 100K miles and the honeycomb in the converter crumbled
and plugged it up so the engine began overheating. Now that my "D" is
going on 108K I'm concerned.
Dave Sontos
VIN 02573
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Subject: [DML] my aching back
Date: 12-Sep-99 19:09:39 -0500
I am somewhat disenchanted with my Delorean. Since purchasing my 81' D in 3/98 I have spent over $12,000 having the car gone through by a professional mechanic, bumper to bumper. The car runs and looks great but now I find that if I drive
You can reply to bfudge@sprynet.com if you so choose.
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Subject: [DML] Re: fuel pump? please help!
Date: 12-Sep-99 20:50:05 -0400
OK guys; lets get the facts straight. Lets not lead non technical DeLorean
owners into the wilderness.
If I'm not mistaken the original post described a leaking fuel connector
which might be easily corrected by just tightening up the connector. Lets
not "scare the pants off the guy" by telling him that his fuel distributor
is bad. Lets not pour salt on the wound by quoting a price of $1800 to
$2000 when the part costs less than $800 from any of the DeLorean parts
people.
Lastly: Python Corporation does not provide services to consumers, you must
be in the auto parts or service business and have an account on file with
them to order their services.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: LovDMC12@aol.com
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: fuel pump? please help!
> Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 2:28 PM
>
> Erik,
>
> The part you're describing is the fuel distributor. My limited
understanding
> is that the gas travels through the fuel distributor before being sent to
the
> individual cylinders. You have a serious problem!!! My mechanic has
told
> me, as have several D owners, that a new distributor costs around $1800
to
> $2000.
>
> There is another possibility, however. Call Python Corporation in
Stanton,
> CA at 1-800-959-2865. I've been told that they rebulid the Bosch fuel
> distributors that are found on the DeLorean at a very reasonable price.
I've
> never used this company so I cannot vouch for their work, but my mechanic
has
> used them for this very operation, and he speaks very highly of them.
> Perhaps someone on the list has had Python rebuild a fuel distributor for
> them and can tell you the results.
>
> Brian
> VIN 1597
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Subject: [DML] Re: Kill Switch
Date: 12-Sep-99 20:52:49 -0400
The inertia switch will unlock the doors only upon activation, once the
switch is open the doors will function normally. The switch only closes a
ground with no current going through the switch when the ignition is turned
off. Therefore the switch could be used on a regular basis.
BTW: I really don't believe it is necessary to disable the engine for
security reasons for the following reasons.
A) The DeLorean has an extremely low theft rate.
B) Most car thieves avoid steeling cars that they are not absolutely sure
how to start and drive.
C) If you lock your doors the DeLorean is one of the most difficult cars to
brake into due to it's twin lock latches and non standard latch mechanism
which is virtually impossible to by-pass. Slim-jim's are vertually useless.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: Gus Schlachter <gus@austin.rr.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: Kill Switch
> Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 1:16 PM
>
> Hey, I thought that when you tripped the inertia switch, it unlocked the
> doors. Does this mean that if you use it as a kill switch, you can't
lock
> your car?
>
> Also, I'd think that the inertia switch wasn't rated for frequent throws.
> Wouldn't it wear out after awhile?
>
> Besides, I have no fear that my car will be stolen. I'm more worried
about
> the "DMC" on my grill.
>
>
> Gus Schlachter
> Austin, TX
> VIN# 4695
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Subject: [DML] Re: Door ajar light and rear window defogger
Date: 12-Sep-99 20:57:09 -0400
The door lock solenoids are being activated by the (goofy) door lock module
and overheating the solenoid coils. This action overheats the circuit and
causes the door lock circuit breaker to open & close (clicking in the
electrical compartment). This will eventually damage or burn out the door
lock solenoids if it hasn't already done so. This is why we advise that the
door lock module be disconnected.
As I had mentioned, the door lock module is goofy. Certain voltage and or
ground changes in the electrical system will cause self-activation of the
module.
In some cases the solenoids will burn in the locked position, this
condition could leave you locked out, or even worse, being locked in your
car. Not just inconvenient but very embarrassing.
You can't say you weren't warned; disconnect the door lock module.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: LovDMC12@aol.com
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Door ajar light and rear window defogger
> Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 2:37 PM
>
> I have a very strange problem. When I turn on the rear window defogger,
the
> door ajar light comes on and there is a clicking noise coming from the
relay
> compartment. What is happening? I was told to unplug the door relay
from
> its circuit breaker to make the locks manual and to keep from burning out
the
> solenoids; however, the clicking sound can still be heard if the rear
> defogger is activated and the door ajar light comes on. Can anybody give
me
> a clue as to how to solve this?
>
> Brian
> VIN 1597
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Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels
Date: 12-Sep-99 21:27:52 -0400
Has anyone added an aftermarket steering wheel to their D? I'm wondering if
there are adapters listed for the D and if not, what standard vehicle spline
might match?
Thanks,
Steve
VIN 2650
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Subject: [DML] Re: Life of catylitic converter
Date: 12-Sep-99 21:58:56 -0400
Our D has 260K mi still fitted with the original converter. For every weak
component in the DeLorean there are many other components that are of very
high quality with extremely low failure rates. The catalytic converter is
one of those items. Expected usable life 200K miles plus.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: David Sontos <dsontos@sybercom.net>
> To: dmcnews Newsletter <dmcnews@egroups.com>
> Subject: [DML] Life of catylitic converter
> Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 7:58 PM
>
> Does anyone know the life of the catylic converter. I had an old
> Bonneville with a 100K miles and the honeycomb in the converter crumbled
> and plugged it up so the engine began overheating. Now that my "D" is
> going on 108K I'm concerned.
>
> Dave Sontos
> VIN 02573
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Subject: [DML] Re: Top Speed
Date: 12-Sep-99 22:01:16 -0400
DeLoreans have no governor or speed limiting device, your friend probably
has a fuel injection or throttle problem. The DeLorean top speed is between
120 & 130 mph.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: juffo7@hotmail.com
> Hi Everyone,
> A friend of mine told me that he is not able to get his D past 85-87
> mph. I'm curious, did D's ever come with govenors for speed in them, or
> did some North American dealers put them in aftermarket?? I'm thinking
> there must be something wrong with it! If anyone could feed some
> insight on this, it would be appreciated, also could someone please
> tell me what the approx. top speed is?
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
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Subject: [DML] Re: Door ajar light and rear window defogger
Date: 12-Sep-99 22:50:11 -0400
Brian -- I'm not sure I can help wiht the rear defogger problem, but I may be
able to with the "door ajar" light. Mine did the same thing for a while.
If you look at the left door jamb, you'll see two small buttons that are
depressed by the door as it closes. One controls the "door open" light and
buzzer. If you remove the switch carefully, you can adjust a knurled nut on
the back of the switches to increase or decrease sensitivity. If you move it
back and forth, you should find a setting that eliminates the light coming
on. BUT be sure not to bend any of the contacts on the switches, and
reattach the switch carefully with the original screws. These are very
flimsy and very touchy switches! Another thought ... check the strikeplates
on the door itself to be sure they are firmly fastened and that they actually
meet the switch plungers.
Good luck!
Paul Feine
# 10944
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Richard
Either your firend has a very sick DeLorean, or some dealer put a governor
on it so that he couldn't possibly hit 88mph. I'd lean towards the former.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Date: 12-Sep-99 22:14:47 -0500
See if you can talk to Duke. I don't know if he is still with us or not. He had an 81, auto, with black leather. He replaced his black seats with seats from a Trans Am. If you have black seats try and see if you can locate some from a
I am really not sure if you would want to replace the seats if you have a gray interior. It could be hard to find matching seats. Good luck and if Duke spots this message maybe he could help you out.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>See if you can talk to Duke. I don't know
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Subject: [DML] spraying fuel
Date: 12-Sep-99 20:30:12 -0700
I would like to thank everybody for posting answers to my problem. I
don't believe my fuel distributor would go bad because of me changing
my spark plugs. while trying to get the spark plug cap on the VERy
hard spark plug in the back I wiggled some stuff around and I believe I
loosend OR cracked a fuel line. Could someone e-mail me directly on
direction on how to bypass the RPM thingy? thanks for all your help.
4512 thanks you also...he wants to be on the road very soon.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels
Date: 12-Sep-99 23:59:47 -0400
Well...I hate to start another BTTF thread but I did notice that the
DeLorean used in BTTF had a different steering wheel than stock. This
should at least offer some encouragement that they DO exist. Or can at
least be adapted. I, for one, would love to attach a steering wheel with
the horn button back where it belongs.
--Rob Hook
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From: Jus4sho@aol.com [SMTP:Jus4sho@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 9:28 PM
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Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels
Has anyone added an aftermarket steering wheel to their D? I'm wondering
if
there are adapters listed for the D and if not, what standard vehicle
spline
might match?
Thanks,
Steve
VIN 2650
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Subject: [DML] Re: Another DeLorean Story
Date: 13-Sep-99 0:01:19 -0400
Bob's story about the broken down Delorean was a touching one. I wonder
if he had more than "just one drink" before finding the mysterious can by his
car, hmmmmm....
We have all had those "crazy" stories. As for me, I had my Delorean out
one Friday night. Went back to a friend's home where I parked it (around 2:00
a.m.) and it would not start. After trying to figure out the problem I was
tired and got a ride from my friend to my home.
In the morning I called Rob Grady who's shop is only 20 minutes away or
so. He came out with the flat-bed and I met him where the car was parked.
Before putting the car on the flat-bed, Grady got in to give it a try. In 5
seconds he started the Delorean. I was in awe. This man was a God or had some
supernatural power.
Rob Grady got out of the car and said, "I found the problem, you had it
in neutral." I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. Grady, being the
genuinely nice and fair person I know him to be didn't even charge me for the
trip with the flat-bed. I guess he probably figured my overwhelming
embarrasment was punishment enough.
Well, that is my story. Who's next. By the way, pass the marshmallows,
the camp fire Delorean stories are just warming up...
Todd Z. (Long Island, New York)
"tjzhere27@aol.com"
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Subject: [DML] Re: my aching back
Date: 13-Sep-99 0:05:00 -0400
I've seen at least one car for sale with Recarro seats. Also, does your
DeLorean still have the adjustmet knob on it? They are prone to breaking.
I used to think my DeLorean had a non-adjustable passenger seat (I'd never
really bothered to look at it) until I found the broken adjustment knob in
the jack storage compartmet. :)
--Rob Hook
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Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 8:10 PM
To: dmcnews@egroups.com
Subject: [DML] my aching back
I am somewhat disenchanted with my Delorean. Since purchasing my 81' D in
3/98 I have spent over $12,000 having the car gone through by a
professional mechanic, bumper to bumper. The car runs and looks great but
now I find that if I drive the car on a 2 hour trip my back aches. I
either need to find substitute seats or sell the car in favor of a car with
more supportive seats. Has anyone replaced the stock seats and if so is
there a brand recommendation.
You can reply to bfudge@sprynet.com if you so choose.
Thanks
Brad
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Subject: [DML] Re: Top Speed
Date: 13-Sep-99 4:10:27 +0000
It could be that he doesn't realize that there is a stop peg
that prevents the speedo from regestering more than 85
mph.............
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Subject: [DML] Re: weird blue wires/tube things
Date: 13-Sep-99 0:21:53 -0400
> Well it looks as if you have already thrown away $1000. Your analysis is
a
> lot of guess work that will get you deeper in trouble. For example, your
> frequency valve does not receive a 12 volt feed to operate. Improper
> testing procedures could cause serious damage to your ECU's.
>
> To answer your main question the two blue items are electrical connectors
> connecting the impulse coil to the ignition ECU and the 02 sensor to the
> Lambda ECU. Both of these units deal with very low voltages. Improper
> testing can permanently damage both.
>
> DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
>
> ----------
> > From: NJP548@aol.com
> > Subject: [DML] weird blue wires/tube things
> > Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 7:57 PM
> >
> > Hey list,
> >
> While trying to get my car to run better I came across a possible
> problem that might help me. First off I have to know there are 2
> different ECU units correct? One is called the Lambda ECU and the other
is the one that controls the Idle Speed Regulator, right??. I took off the
wood
> panel behind the drivers side and saw that there were 2 blue tube
things...one
> was coming off of the Lambda ECU and the other was coming from an other
unit that was mounted underneath the other ECU (the one that controls the
Idle Speed Regulator) One of my questions is what do these 2 blue tube
things do.
> And also I have no power going to my frequency valve and the Control
Pressure regulator. Would that cause my car not to run right? Right now
when I
> turn it on the car will rev up to about 3500-4000 RMP but then if u let
go of
> the gas it will idle at around 1500-2000 RMP. But then when you put your
> foot all the way on the gas pedal again it will work its way back up to
about
> 3000RMP. But again if u have your foot lightly on the gas it will go up
> to about 3500RPM. At first I thought the problem was mechanical so I put
a
> different Fuel Distributor on it, I got new injectors, the fuel pump is
> working so I am narrowing the problem down to something electrical so I
> am still trying to figure it out. I am also thinking it might be the
Oxygen sensor, maybe that isn't sending a pulse to the Lambda ECU and maybe
thats why I don't have any power going to the Frequency Valve. Could that
be apossibility?
DMC Joe does that sound right? Anyways, I am selling this
> car so I want to get it to run better for the future owner. Any and all
help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks a lot,
> > Nick
> > VIN# 1852....for sale....e-mail for info
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: overheated DeLorean
Date: 13-Sep-99 1:06:27 -0400
Darryl,
I agree with your concerns but I disagree with you statistics. We have been
servicing and researching DeLoreans since 1984. With hundreds of DeLoreans
in our data base I know of none having engine fires.
I don't know of any internal combustion engine that does not have fuel
lines running near ignition sources. A fire extinguisher is a good idea in
any car, the DeLorean is no more prone to engine fires than any other
gasoline powered vehicle.
The biggest potential for engine fires is caused by inexperienced
shade-tree mechanics not using the proper techniques when servicing their
cars.
Lets be careful what we say about these cars on this public forum. The car
already has an unfounded questionable reputation. Lets not "throw more gas
on the fire" by making people think that the car will burst into flames at
any moment.
Lets tell the facts as they are. The DeLorean CIS fuel injection system is
one of the most reliable fuel systems, built by the leader in the industry;
Bosch. All the critical fuel lines are heavy duty high pressure lines with
all copper and brass fittings. These fuel lines and fittings don't just
fail by use or age.
Owners who elect to service their own cars need to know and understand fuel
system procedures & precautions. A good example is house wiring. We know
that all home owner can change a light bulb, some can replace a light
fixture, and few can run circuits from the service panel. All of these
items can be potentially dangerous or lethal.
You know as well as I that when we post messages like this one there will
be many replies for the next several days that will say: "I recently heard
that DeLoreans can catch on fire easily".
In closing I agree with you that we should caution owners about potential
fuel system fires and keep them posted on proper service techniques and
periodic inspections.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels
Date: 13-Sep-99 1:11:03 -0400
Rob,
You said: " I, for one, would love to attach a steering wheel with
the horn button back where it belongs."
Sounds like a good idea but did you forget about wiring ?
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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Date: 13-Sep-99 0:09:41 -0800
I have been looking for a picture of the DMC-80, the bus. I saw one on
a website along time ago but I can not seem to find it anymore. If
someone knows what web site it is on or could send me the pic it would be
greatly appreciated.
Thank You
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Subject: [DML] Rumbling Noise
Date: 13-Sep-99 1:44:41 -0700
We recently had the left rear CV boot replaced and since then I have been noticing a rumbling noise coming from the rear of the car. It's not constant but seems to be most noticeable either while driving at a constant speed or when letting
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vin 16232
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We recently had the left rear CV boot
replaced and since then I have been noticing a rumbling noise coming from
the rear of the car. It's not constant but seems to be most
noticeable either while driving at a constant speed or when letting off the
gas and coasting, either way it's not always there. Could the
shop I took it to have done something to cause this, or did I
just not notice a problem I already had. I'm a bit puzzled by the
fact I cannot always hear it. For what its worth
the </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>front wheel bearings have already been
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>vin 16232</FONT></DIV>
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I asked DOA's "technical experts" to look into
>the problem for the good of all owners (since in our case there is no one to
>recall the cars) but they chose to ignore it and me, apparently presuming it
>would go away.
>Lets see if the DML has the guts (which DOA did not) to tackle this issue.
>I hope the moderators will see fit to agree.
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Darryl, and others,
This was a very important posting.
I agree that the DMC has had more than its share of engine fires; or at
least that I have heard of more DeLorean engines fires than just about any
car other than old VW's (which I also own). The reasons can be many.
Howver, I don't think you can discount the fact that many of the owners are
inadvertantly, either the culprits or contributors to the problem.
I'm sure that Erik is not the first to loosen, tear or weaken a fuel line
while changing a plug. He is fortunate in that he noticed his problem.
There are a lot of lines, as you pointed out, there at the "back" of the
engine. Working on the spark plugs, distributor, or just plain trying to
"armorall" everything to get it to look nice can create or contribute to
the problem.
I won't discuss what the DOA did or did not do. I think such a conversation
can too easily cause this list to degenerate into something we won't be
proud of. However, if the DML members are to look to each other to find
"fixes" to this problem, most of us would look to professionals to make the
suggestions. That means, among others, YOURSELF. Naturally, input from
some of the VERY talented back yard mechanics who own DeLoreans is
invaluable, but if, in fact, a problem exists and if, in fact, a fix can be
made, I would expect the LEADERS of the fix-it crew would be people like
Rob Grady, Don Steger, Stephen Wynne, Joe LoRe, and Darryl Tinnerstat (any
other professional automtive technicians who work on the DeLorean on a
regular basis).
As an owner (not as a moderator) I'd like to toss the ball back into your court.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Date: 13-Sep-99 6:47:56 -0600
A very old issue of the DeLorean World had pictures of a DeLorean with an
aftermarket steering wheel. In fact, I believe it was "detachable" as a
further guard against theft of the car (that was back in the days when we
owners actually thought a self-respecting thief would steal a DeLorean).
Due to remodeling, my DeLorean Worlds are not readily accessible now, but
perhaps someone with a lot of time on their hands might want to research
this.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Subject: [DML] Re: New DMC Picture in Vault.
Date: 13-Sep-99 9:21:36 -0400
The Genius wrote:
> . . . I noticed someone uploaded a picture of what appears to be the New DeLorean. The
> picture seems like it was made on a computer and looks very much like a Lamborghini.
This photo is neither a Lambo nor a "new DeLorean." Someone has uploaded a picture of a
Vector Avtech to the DML's eGroups vault.
You can see the exact same picture at the following SuperCars page dedicated to the Vector
Avtech WX3:
http://www.supercars.net/present_cars/vector/avtech_wx3/
I assume whoever posted the picture stole it from the SuperCars site. The Vector Avtech is a
nice looking car, with many DeLoreanesque styling cues.
- Mike Substelny
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Subject: [DML] Re: fuel pump? please help!
Date: 13-Sep-99 9:44:27 -0400
WHERE do you live that the guy down the street who hates DeLoreans is
the only mechanic?!
Check your phone book, look for mechanics that deal with foreign cars,
If they specialize in Volvo's, thats a plus. Any good mechanic should
be able to work on the DeLorean. True, they will not know the quirks
and tricks that the DeLorean professionals know, but they should be able
to get you going.
delorean502@excite.com wrote:
>
<SNIP>
> what needs to be fixed? i need some help. I really dont want to send
> it to the people down the street that can fix it, but HATE deloreans
> more than a punch in the face. any advise would be great.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Turbo and Audio
Date: 13-Sep-99 10:04:05 -0400
I see the turbo question was already answered..
The DeLorean dash board has a metal plate that is cut for a older style
shaft radio. (Part # 106639, Page 7-3-0)
There on not many of them left, so when you find them they are
expensive.
Some owners have chosen to not cut the plate, and install a newer shaft
style unit. Kenwood had (I think it was discontinued recently) a unit
that was shaft style, and would control a CD changer. If you can still
find one, (Model 3001) they had a reasonable price. If you want a basic
system, or even a single amplifier this is a good choice. If you are a
audio maniac (like myself) I dont think this unit will meet your
requirements.
Other owners have simply cut the plate. I am currently in the situation
of making this decision. I have my speaker box almost complete (details
to follow), all the amplifiers and speakers are in my garage, and the
DIN style head unit is in the mail. The way I look at it, my choices
are:
1. Cut the thing, and destroy a rare original part.
2. Wait until I find someone who has one that is cut already that wants
to go back to stock.
3. Wait until someone makes a aftermarket reproduction at a reasonable
price.
4. Have a reproduction made locally.
The real WAY out option is to hope that someone makes a high quality
shaft style CD controller or MP3 player.
As far as "how" to cut, any decent car stereo installer should be able
to cut it for you.
TTanaka504@aol.com wrote:
<SNIP>
>
> I hear that we need to cut some place to install a car stereo
> unit. How can you done?
>
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Date: 13-Sep-99 8:25:25 -0700
Im thinking of buying an 81 dmc with 48 miles that was rebuilt in 91 at
delorean one, there are a couple things wrong with the car and i
wanted some advice of the cost of repair and what the problems could
really be.
1. Air Condtioning
It blows hot air out, the seller says all it needs is freeon?
2. passenger window goes up and down but is off the track.
3. Steering when you turn the wheel it has a "notchy" feel to it, again
the seller says it just needs a minor piece.
4. Master cyclinder was replace but he says the cluth could use some
tweaking.
I live in the Washington DC area, i know of pj's in new york but im
wondering if anyone knows of a place here in dc that is somewhat dmc
savy. Thanks for your advice!!
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Subject: [DML] Re: dash crack
Date: 13-Sep-99 10:29:49 -0500
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At 10:07 AM -0500 9/12/99, magriese@us.ibm.com wrote:
>Erik wrote:
>the old core. I have use both processes with excellent long term
>success. The current price for a new DeLorean dash pad is around
>$625. Just Dashes will recover your old dash with an exact match
>vinyl grain for less than that.
Ehhh, not in my experience. Just Dashes does NOT match the grain exactly on
either dashes or binnacles. A year or so ago I took them an old dash and
binnacle as part of an article I was preparing for DMC-News, and the
results were so bad (IMO), that I scrapped the article and the parts.
Unless they've made some DRATIC changes in the last 10-14 months, I'd steer
clear of them.
James
James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas
281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
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Date: 13-Sep-99 9:02:05 -0700
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ajl52-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=2966
> Erik,
>
> The part you're describing is the fuel distributor. My limited
understanding
, that a new distributor costs around $1800 to
> $2000.
Hello All,
I was able to get a fuel distributor for just under $1000. But I have
found even a better source, If you tell PEP BOYS that you need a fuel
distributor for an 81 Volvo with a 2.8 V6. they pull up a
remanufactored one for only $495.00! Some may say its better to go with
an oem part, but theres a big differance between $2000 and $495. Next
time I stop at Pep Boys I will get the part number on it also for
anyone interested
Andrew
4194
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Subject: [DML] Re: Tire Balancing
Date: 13-Sep-99 9:11:43 -0700
I ONLY spin-balance ALL my cars' tires on the vehicle. (38 Buick, 78
Volare,81 DeLorean). More than just the tire/wheel roatate thus all should
be in balance. Of course, marke the position of the wheel so remounting
will be in the same position. Check with shop that work on tractor/trailer
tires as they are spun on the vehicle. Tulsa Auto Spring is the only place
I know of in my neck of the woods;~$5/wheel.
Drive Stainless Robert VIN 6924
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>Subject: [DML] Tire Balancing
>Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 02:55:21 EDT
>
>I recently purcahsed the Yokohamas for my D. I was wondering how many
>owners
>have had them spin balanced while on the car or do most people just balance
>the tires on the rims while they are off the car? Before I search for a
>shop
>that can spin balance on the car, is the ride just as well if I have my
>mechanic balance them while he has them off the car? Also should the
>alignment be checked or anything else done while changing the tires?
>
>Gary
>VIN3360
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Subject: [DML] NEWSFLASH, delorean.com changes
Date: 13-Sep-99 12:58:13 -0400
Ok Delorean afficinados go immiediatly to www.delorean.com. these are the
big changes. The d=MC2 logo has been stylized a bit more with some sun
reflection, additionally click on it to see some kind of watch looking thingy
announcing that the time is near. Im probly late on this but its 1pm on
monday and im assuming that im one of the first to notice this.
Dan Gompper
No vin Yet
90 Cutlass supreame
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Subject: [DML] Re: Top Speed
Date: 13-Sep-99 13:39:30 -0500
My D is only beginning to breathe well at 85mph and that is in 3rd gear! I don't know what
the top end would be because I have backed off at about 95. I value my D and my life and
license too much to go any further. By the way, it's a single BAE Turbo but this didn't have
anything to do with the speed, just the speed at which you get there!
Bill Lane
Vin 3635
juffo7@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> A friend of mine told me that he is not able to get his D past 85-87
> mph. I'm curious, did D's ever come with govenors for speed in them, or
> did some North American dealers put them in aftermarket?? I'm thinking
> there must be something wrong with it! If anyone could feed some
> insight on this, it would be appreciated, also could someone please
> tell me what the approx. top speed is?
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
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Subject: [DML] new engine
Date: 13-Sep-99 11:51:06 -0700
I've always wondered how much it would cost to buy a brand new Delorean
engine and the cost to install it. does anybody have a clue?
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Subject: [DML] fuel leak
Date: 13-Sep-99 12:09:53 -0700
In not very technical but here goes...bear with me:
when I was changing my sparkplugs I moved the thing around that is on
top of the hardest sparkplug to change. That thing has a tube that
goes down and into the middle of the engine. I moved that around quite
a bit and I was wondering if that caused the fuel to spray. I probably
didnt make any sense, but hopefully someone out there understood.
any answers would be great.
erik
p.s
i dont know if it is my hoses since the fuel was coming from between
the distributor and what evers underneath that.
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Subject: [DML] Re: headliners
Date: 13-Sep-99 12:11:22 -0700
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The actual core itself is coming down, not the fabric. To put it
another way, if i pulled on what is falling down, and it came off, i
would see stainless steel from the door.
erik
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Subject: [DML] Re: Top Speed
Date: 13-Sep-99 15:41:40 -0400
It's possible that if he has a 5-speed the clutch could be worn and slipping.....
>
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Subject: [DML] Voting Results: DeLorean Mailing List Polls
Date: 13-Sep-99 12:52:24 -0700
Here are the results of the vote:
1. I don't have an opinion at all 1
2. I don't know how 2
3. Nobody cares what I think 2
4. I'll answer the next one, I promise! 8
5. I answered this one, didn't I? 15
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Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels
Date: 13-Sep-99 15:59:00 -0500
There is a picture of an AMAZING DeLorean at:
http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm
It is the red one with red interior, submitted by Shannon. It has the
coolest looking steering wheel I've ever seen on it, so I know that you can
find ones that will fit. Maybe if they're on this list they'll add their
two cents on where to get something like that...
(Also check out the rest of the interior, very nice)
----- Original Message -----
From: <Jus4sho@aol.com>
To: <dmcnews@egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 8:27 PM
Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels
> Has anyone added an aftermarket steering wheel to their D? I'm wondering
if
> there are adapters listed for the D and if not, what standard vehicle
spline
> might match?
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
> VIN 2650
>
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Subject: [DML] The Lucas Switch
Date: 13-Sep-99 16:27:15 -0500
000Importance: Normal
I found a humorous image of "The Lucas Switch" while looking through some
TR-6 sites. This one applies equally well to the DeLorean. It's in the DMC
News egroups vault as "Lucas.GIF".
Enjoy!
Travis Graham
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Subject: [DML] Re: Top Speed
Date: 13-Sep-99 16:28:40 -0500
Hi everyone!
Thanks for the input. My friend doesn't pay attention to his D which is sad,
but I spoke to him,and he's going to have it looked at!!
-It would be just like him not to notice the needle stopper at 85, but he
said he had noticed that =)
Richard
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Subject: [DML] Re: overheated DeLorean
Date: 13-Sep-99 18:00:00 -0400
Thank you VERY much for your sensible and well-worded remarks concerning the
"fire hazard" issue. Yes, we should all be cautious. But no, we should not
be paranoid. And I concur with your assessment that DeLorean "fires" are
quite likely no more prevalent than with other vehicles, and are likely the
result of non-professionals (like myself) tinkering with various systems.
With a little judicious caution and some common sense, most of us can keep
our D's in service and enjoyable for years to come. Thanks again!
Paul Feine
# 10944
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Subject: [DML] Doors locked and fires
Date: 13-Sep-99 18:01:39 -0400
First of all I'm NOT locked out of my D, but since DMCJoe brought it up. If
one locks themselves out of their Delorean, and slim jims do not work, then
how do you get into it? Second, thank you Darryl for the info on possible
fires in the Delorean. I whole heartedly agree with you about always having a
fire extinguisher. Anyone who has ever had a fire in the engine knows that
the price of the extinguisher is less than the hassle of replacing the engine
or car. Last but not least is my newest Delorean saga. I was going to Walmart
last week, pulled up into the lot and a small boy about 8 comes running over.
He was happy until I got out, he thought that Michael J. Fox was driving.
Seems that BTTF has been playing on TV a lot in the last few weeks.
Bruce Battles
Vin #06569
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Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels
Date: 13-Sep-99 15:12:04 -0700
If you look close, and are familiar with ORIGINAL pieces - you will agree
that this is an original wheel, with the center covered in fabric and the
"top-arch" cut out and extension handles inserted, doesn't seem too safe or
cool to me.
Regards
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Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 1:59 PM
To: dmcnews@egroups.com
Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels
There is a picture of an AMAZING DeLorean at:
http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm
It is the red one with red interior, submitted by Shannon. It has
the
coolest looking steering wheel I've ever seen on it, so I know that
you can
find ones that will fit. Maybe if they're on this list they'll add
their
two cents on where to get something like that...
(Also check out the rest of the interior, very nice)
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From: <Jus4sho@aol.com>
To: <dmcnews@egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 8:27 PM
Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels
> Has anyone added an aftermarket steering wheel to their D? I'm
wondering
if
> there are adapters listed for the D and if not, what standard
vehicle
spline
> might match?
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
> VIN 2650
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Radio cutout/ was: Turbo and Audio
Date: 13-Sep-99 15:13:58 -0700
> The DeLorean dash board has a metal plate that is cut for a
> older style shaft radio. (Part # 106639, Page 7-3-0)
>
> There on not many of them left, so when you find them they are
> expensive.
>
> Some owners have chosen to not cut the plate, and install a
> newer shaft style unit. Kenwood had (I think it was discontinued
> recently) a unit that was shaft style, and would control a CD
> changer. If you can still find one, (Model 3001) they had a
> reasonable price. If you want a basic system, or even a single
> amplifier this is a good choice. If you are a audio maniac
> (like myself) I dont think this unit will meet your requirements.
>
> Other owners have simply cut the plate. I am currently in
> the situation of making this decision. I have my speaker box
> almost complete (details to follow), all the amplifiers and
> speakers are in my garage, and the DIN style head unit is in
> the mail. The way I look at it, my choices are:
>
> 1. Cut the thing, and destroy a rare original part.
> 2. Wait until I find someone who has one that is cut already
> that wants to go back to stock.
> 3. Wait until someone makes a aftermarket reproduction at a reasonable
price.
> 4. Have a reproduction made locally.
>
> The real WAY out option is to hope that someone makes a high
> quality shaft style CD controller or MP3 player.
>
> As far as "how" to cut, any decent car stereo installer should be able
to cut it for you.
I went ahead and cut the plate. I don't feel that this hurts the value
of the car because kits are made to switch a DIN cutout back to a shaft
style. Put in one of those and the stock radio and you won't be able to
tell the difference. This is a minor originality item compared to the
major difference it makes to have a clean sounding stereo. OK, it'll
cost you a few points in your next concours, but I like to drive my car
too, not just show it.
However, great care should be taken when cutting the opening. Unless
you're very good at such work I wouldn't recommend doing it yourself.
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Subject: [DML] Wheel Value Stems & Caps
Date: 13-Sep-99 17:41:38 -0500
I have noticed many different valve stems and caps on our DeLorean's
wheels. Some have long black plastic valve stems, others have short
black ones, others have black plastic with a white plastic air release
piece and yet others have what appears to be stainless steel valve
stems. The caps I have noticed are black plastic, brass, stainless
steel and none at all on the stems with the white air release piece.
Can anyone tell us what the factory produced by Vin #? It's a concours
issue.
Regards, The Silver Fox Vin #'s 01149 & 10788
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Date: 13-Sep-99 18:43:42 -0400
In a message dated 9/13/99 5:50:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DMCJOE@att.net
writes:
<< Well it looks as if you have already thrown away $1000. >>
Haha Guess what....I got the fuel distributor for FREE yes FREE so actually
it didn't cost me anything. And what do you mean by improper guess work?
I'm not doing anything to them at all. If the control pressure regulator and
the frequency valve aren't buzzing when their supposed to then there is a
problem. I just wanted to know which direction to go into
Later,
Nick
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Subject: [DML] Re: Turbo and Audio
Date: 13-Sep-99 18:54:53 -0400
We recently had a new Stereo system installed and they had to cut the plate,
it may be an original part but our new stereo is such an improvement.... (the
original ate any tape placed in it, and the display was useless) We bought a
kenwood KDC-8011, the price was high but the face plate hides the stereo when
the car is turned off, its really cool and "tricky" much like the car
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Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels
Date: 13-Sep-99 17:09:56 -0600
That steering wheel is a modified stock unit. I have heard that there are
some MOMO wheels that will fit. Apparently, if you get the proper MOMO
wheel adapter, many other aftermarket wheels will bolt onto the MOMO
adapter. I have yet to find out which MOMO adapter is the one that fits our
cars.
On 13 Sep 99, at 15:59, Scucci wrote:
> There is a picture of an AMAZING DeLorean at:
> http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm
>
> It is the red one with red interior, submitted by Shannon. It has the
> coolest looking steering wheel I've ever seen on it, so I know that you can
> find ones that will fit. Maybe if they're on this list they'll add their
> two cents on where to get something like that...
>
>
> (Also check out the rest of the interior, very nice)
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Subject: [DML] Re: Turbo and Audio
Date: 13-Sep-99 20:08:11 -0400
In a message dated 9/13/99 4:51:43 PM Central Daylight Time,
malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com writes:
<< The DeLorean dash board has a metal plate that is cut for a older style
shaft radio. (Part # 106639, Page 7-3-0)
There on not many of them left, so when you find them they are
expensive. >>
Marc,
This is another item a couple of us have been working on for a little
while and we just about have it finished. When complete, we will be able to
offer a complete replacement panel made to either replace the original to fit
the stock radio, or a custom panel cut out to fit whatever radio face you
want. The vents and controls will fit this new panel the same as stock.
(Note, this custom panel is still limited to YOU making sure the radio you
choose will fit in the space available ) All you will have to do is send us a
cutout diagram for the radio you are going to use and we will fabricate a
complete panel assembly to fit. This way you will be able to save your
"original" panel for later replacement if you want to go back with the stock
radio.
We are working on having these panel assemblies ready in time for the DOA
Expo. Cost is going to be in the $100 to $150 range. If anyone has any
interest, please e-mail me directly.
Thanks, Marty
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Subject: [DML] Disassembled D...
Date: 13-Sep-99 20:30:45 -0400
Hi All,
I have been watching and reading posts now for around a year and a
half. The time has come (finally) for me to venture into the world of
stainless steel & gullwing doors. This Sunday, I will be going to try
and strike a deal on a disassembled DeLorean. Here's the situation:
The current owner, a Lotus collector, bought the car in 1990 for his
then-wife. The car was in perfect working order, but had been a
driver. He took the car apart for a thorough cleaning and restoration.
Shortly therafter, he went through a divorce and the car has remained
untouched since. I saw the car about one year ago, and here is what I
remember:
- The body shell has most of the stainless and all the wheels removed,
and is sitting on the floor (on a rack -- it's a large trucking garage).
I believe it is still on the frame.
- The engine has been removed and partially disassembled
- The windshield and rear glass were broken during removal of the doors
(the breaking rear glass startled them and they dropped the just-removed
door on the windshield. Ouch!)
- The stainless (including the left front fender) is all in good
condition
- The car has a heavy layer of greasy dust all over it. I'm figuring
this would protect it
- He has a service manual, and several boxes of literature, NOS parts,
and "has a big dealer sign around somewhere" (but I don't know if the
sign is included in the price)
- He claims that all the pieces are there, and that the car was fully
functional (and PA state-inspected) when disassembled
- I do not remember whether the car was an automatic or standard, what
year it was, or any other important info unfortunately. I was only
partially serious at the time.
I am a pretty mechanical person, as I have a 1958 Plymouth that I have
restored. Obviously, this is quite a different challenge. I believe
that with some guidance I can successfully reassamble the car. Luckily,
as fate would have it, there is another D (not running, but complete)
only about half a mile away that I can use for "reference" when
necessary.
The owner is asking $5000. When I asked last year, the responses leaned
heavily towards the "the car is totalled" end of the scale. The average
on the responses was $3500. I plan to offer him $3000, and settle on
$3500-$4000. I figure this is a no-lose price, as I could always part
out the D if I got too discouraged (or broke).
I would appreciate any further input on:
- Your impressions of the car's value
- Advice from anyone who has ever finished someone else's D project
- Things to look for on a car that is in this condition (obviously, I
can't look at the frame, or judge engine performance at this time)
Please email me personally at dave.stragand@ketchum.com with any
input/help/advice you may have.
Dave Stragand
Pittsburgh, PA
VIN #: ??????
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Date: 13-Sep-99 18:04:44 -0700
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cbl30-@msn.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=3011
> I've always wondered how much it would cost to buy a brand new
Delorean
> engine and the cost to install it. does anybody have a clue?
>
About the price of a used Delorean ($8000.00-$12000.00)
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cbl30-@msn.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=3008
> Ok Delorean afficinados go immiediatly to www.delorean.com. these
are the
> big changes. The d=MC2 logo has been stylized a bit more with some
sun
> reflection, additionally click on it to see some kind of watch
looking thingy
> announcing that the time is near. Im probly late on this but its 1pm
on
> monday and im assuming that im one of the first to notice this.
>
>
> Dan Gompper
> No vin Yet
> 90 Cutlass supreame
Is this Somebodys Idea of Selling D=MC2 Stainless Steel Watches?
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Date: 13-Sep-99 21:16:27 -0400
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I don't know what is cooler? The fact that a part actually last that
long, or that you have actually put over 250k miles on the car. My hat
is off to you. Finally someone else who buys a car to drive it and not
store it.
R.M. # 01327
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Date: 13-Sep-99 21:32:02 -0400
There is a unbuilt STOCK 1/24 Delorean model (not a matchbox size) for Bid
on E-BAY,high bid is $70.00 looks really nice.Item #163922019.
Claude
Vin#006383
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Date: 13-Sep-99 20:42:30 -0500
>Ok Delorean afficinados go immiediatly to www.delorean.com. these are the
>big changes. The d=MC2 logo has been stylized a bit more with some sun
>reflection, additionally click on it to see some kind of watch looking
>thingy
yes, I saw these the other day too. I didn't want my first post to this
list to be a negative one, but what the heck... Personally, I was not
impressed at all. Very simple and overwieght typographic treatment with
cheese-o-la lens flair effects straight out of the box. I guess I
expected a little more from John D. My appologies if the person who did
this site is on this list, but I call 'em as I see 'em. I hope this site
is no reflection on how the new car is going to turn out. All glitz and
no substance...
Can I help it if I'm a graphic design professor?
On a lighter note:
Kudos to all the people on this list who have offered advice and
opinions. This list has convinced me that there is a great community to
rely on and I have decided to buy a D after years of internal debate
after being on this list only 2 months.
I'm looking for one in the $12k range if anyone has any ideas...
Thanks everyone!
__________________________
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West Virginia Wesleyan College
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Date: 13-Sep-99 21:57:35 -0400
In a message dated 9/13/99 5:51:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, raddad@cmn.net
writes:
<<
I agree that the DMC has had more than its share of engine fires; or at
least that I have heard of more DeLorean engines fires than just about any
car other than old VW's (which I also own). The reasons can be many.
Howver, I don't think you can discount the fact that many of the owners are
inadvertently, either the culprits or contributors to the problem. >>
The problem is not the "THE kind of fuel system" the Delorean has,but how
the repairs are done,after all you did not see a bunch of Deloreans bursting
into flames back in 1981-83,also many other car makers used the same Fuel
SYSTEM,My 1974 Mercedes 450 SL used THE same Bosch Jetronic fuel system,and
that never caught on fire,the biggest problem that I see is that a lot of
mechanics and DIY's,reinstall the old copper shims when,they reinstall any of
the dozen fuel lines on the Delorean,then they tend to leak(because they were
aready compressed once),I know been there done that,when I was changing my
fuel pump.
Claude
Vin#6383
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On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 cbl302@msn.com wrote:
> About the price of a used Delorean ($8000.00-$12000.00)
I'm not sure it's really that high. Can't you get a brand new engine from
dmc-houston for about $5000? I don't imagine that it would be $3000-$7000
in labor for something like that. Labor would probably be no more than
$1000 or $2000 at the very most. I never changed a DeLorean engine, but
usually it's a weekend job for an experienced mechanic to swap an engine
with an identical replacement.
You're still better off buying a DeLorean in good shape than trying to fix
one up with a blown engine if your goal is saving money. Normally a car
that has a blown engine will have a bunch of other stuff wrong with it too
- and if you don't fix whatever was wrong you might blow the new engine
too.
Of course, the allure of a project car is something which those that want
them don't need to have explained. :}
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Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels
Date: 13-Sep-99 22:15:44 -0400
Well, I didn't forget about wiring...but I can dream, can't I? :)
How about an F1-style solution? Just a coiled wire that kinda hangs there.
It'd look really stupid to most non-car people but anyone who races would
think it was cool. :)
--Rob Hook
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Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 1:11 AM
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Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels
Rob,
You said: " I, for one, would love to attach a steering wheel with
the horn button back where it belongs."
Sounds like a good idea but did you forget about wiring ?
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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Subject: [DML] interior color statistics
Date: 13-Sep-99 22:16:47 -0400
Hello
I was wondering, what are the statistics on gray vs black interior colors. At
first I though gray was more common, but Im seeing more and more black
interiors. Was there an original cost differance? and did it very by
production dates? Of course there were also two of the three gold cars that
had a tan interior, which i personally like.
(BTW) mine is a 81 with a Black interior. And is now running and driving,
thanks to a replacement transmission.
Andrew
4194
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Date: 13-Sep-99 22:28:23 -0400
R U sure Chris? I'm talking about BTTF I, Not II or III here. The one in
BTTF I looked like it had only two large spokes and a much deeper center
than the stock one. Unfortunately, that's the only BTTF I don't have on
tape. I happened to see some of it on TBS the other night.
--Rob Hook
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Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 8:39 PM
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Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels
Rob, it was the same factory steering wheel with a couple of switches
added!!
You can get aftermarket wheels. If you look in Delorean World one guy had
devised a detachable wheel for security reasons....
Christopher M. Hawes
DMD (Delorean Model Dealership)
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Subject: [DML] Re: Top Speed
Date: 13-Sep-99 22:46:45 -0400
My Ds speedo is broken, but I once got it to 5000 RPM in 5th gear. That computes to 133
MPH, I believe.
PS: It had more left.
Bob 10961
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This is actually a time dilation effect predicted by the Special Theory of
Relativity. It is the fundamental reason why time travel is impossible.
Pete Lucas
VIN 6703
At 3:25 PM -0700 9/12/99, juffo7@hotmail.com wrote:
>Hi Everyone,
>A friend of mine told me that he is not able to get his D past 85-87
>mph.
...
>Thanks,
>Richard
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Date: 13-Sep-99 23:20:21 -0400
Mike,
TAKE THE CAR BACK! The DeLorean CV joints are A-1 quality. They rarely go
bad, even in high mileage cars. If the noise began after the units were
serviced than it's obvious who is at fault. Any noise coming from the rear
axles isn't good.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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To: DMCnews@egroups.com <dmcnews@egroups.com>
Subject: [DML] Rumbling Noise
Date: Monday, September 13, 1999 4:44 AM
We recently had the left rear CV boot replaced and since then I have been
noticing a rumbling noise coming from the rear of the car. It's not
constant but seems to be most noticeable either while driving at a constant
speed or when letting off the gas and coasting, either way it's not always
there. Could the shop I took it to have done something to cause this, or
did I just not notice a problem I already had. I'm a bit puzzled by the
fact I cannot always hear it. For what its worth the front wheel bearings
have already been replaced.
Thanks
Mike Atkinson
vin 16232
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Subject: [DML] Re: NEWSFLASH, delorean.com changes
Date: 13-Sep-99 23:24:07 -0400
One other thing to note. Whoever designed these pages is probably not a true Web Designer. They are using MS FrontPage. (Look at the source for the
second page.)
Just a little tidbit.
Eric P.
delorean@cieng.com
On Mon, 13 Sep 99 20:42:30 -0500, Kelvin wrote:
>
>yes, I saw these the other day too. I didn't want my first post to this
>list to be a negative one, but what the heck... Personally, I was not
>impressed at all. Very simple and overwieght typographic treatment with
>cheese-o-la lens flair effects straight out of the box. I guess I
>expected a little more from John D. My appologies if the person who did
>this site is on this list, but I call 'em as I see 'em. I hope this site
>is no reflection on how the new car is going to turn out. All glitz and
>no substance...
>
>Can I help it if I'm a graphic design professor?
>
>
>On a lighter note:
>
>Kudos to all the people on this list who have offered advice and
>opinions. This list has convinced me that there is a great community to
>rely on and I have decided to buy a D after years of internal debate
>after being on this list only 2 months.
>
>I'm looking for one in the $12k range if anyone has any ideas...
>
>
>Thanks everyone!
>
>
>
>
>__________________________
>
>Kelvin Mason
>Assistant Professor of Art
>West Virginia Wesleyan College
>1-(304)-473-8588
>
>
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Date: 13-Sep-99 23:58:07 -0400
Aren't there specifications for replacing fuel lines anyway? What are
they?
I'm quite sure it's less than 20 years!-- Dry-rot and other .... stuff...
degenerate the lines regardless of use.
Jim
VIN 1..2..3..4..5.. 12345! That's the combination on my luggage!
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Subject: [DML] Re: fuel pump? please help!
Date: 14-Sep-99 0:16:18 -0400
O.K. so it looks as if you saved a couple of hundred dollars on a fuel
distributor, well done, but where is this ridiculous price of $1800 to
$2000 for an OEM coming from.
FACT: The fuel distributor is available from all the DeLorean suppliers for
$700 to $800 less the core charge; at least $1000 less than your quote.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: AJL521@aol.com
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: fuel pump? please help!
> Date: Monday, September 13, 1999 12:02 PM
>
> ajl52-@aol.com wrote:
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=2966
> > Erik,
> >
> > The part you're describing is the fuel distributor. My limited
> understanding
> , that a new distributor costs around $1800 to
> > $2000.
>
> Hello All,
> I was able to get a fuel distributor for just under $1000. But I have
> found even a better source, If you tell PEP BOYS that you need a fuel
> distributor for an 81 Volvo with a 2.8 V6. they pull up a
> remanufactored one for only $495.00! Some may say its better to go with
> an oem part, but theres a big differance between $2000 and $495. Next
> time I stop at Pep Boys I will get the part number on it also for
> anyone interested
>
> Andrew
> 4194
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Subject: [DML] RE. Kill Switch
Date: 14-Sep-99 8:33:43 +0200
Look for fuse Nr. 7 (20 A) and the green cable going to this fuse. Put a switch in this cable. I think that's the thing you are looking for.
Dirk (VIN # 6795)
>I'm thinking about putting a kill switch in the car. Maybe somewhere
>under the hood since I have to put my car cover in there any ways..
>What would be best way to do this . A switch on the starter or something
>maybe coming off the fuel pump?
>Jim
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Date: 14-Sep-99 0:38:42 -0600
Rob, it was the same factory steering wheel with a couple of switches
added!!
You can get aftermarket wheels. If you look in Delorean World one guy had
devised a detachable wheel for security reasons....
Christopher M. Hawes
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Date: 14-Sep-99 1:54:45 -0700
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Erik,
I'm having some engine troubles myself too, but I decided to send it to
a renowned Volvo garage to look at it. Just to be sure. I'm not getting
involved in reparing or replacing the injection mechanism. Maybe it can
cost me a lot of money, but at least I know my engine is safe and sound
again!.
Rob van der Veer
VIN3695
>> could someone tell me
>>what needs to be fixed? i need some help. I really dont want to send
>>it to the people down the street that can fix it, but HATE deloreans
>>more than a punch in the face. any advise would be great.
>>erik geerdink
>>vin 4512....not burned!
>>plate EGGS D
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Subject: [DML] 350 in a D?
Date: 14-Sep-99 5:40:43 -0700
ok, my friend and I were having a discussion about sports cars. the
delorean came up since I own one. We were discussing if a 350 would
fit in a Delorean. So i'm wondering, has anybody ever done this and
gotten away with it? how does it drive? what did it cost? while we
were talking about 350's in a delorean we got to talking about a 427
that was put in an 80's Corvette that was built to the size of a 350.
The engine cost about $50,000 but put out well over 600 HP untweaked at
all. Then we got to thinking....what about a titanium frame for the
delorean, a hardcore tranny to support 600+ HP and that fly 427 engine
in the D. Imagine....schooling a McLaren in your Delorean......maybe
once I'm a millionare I will try to do that, until now...i better got
my engine that I have now to not spit out fuel. have a good day
gentleman...and ladies.
erik geerdink
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Date: 14-Sep-99 7:51:35 -0700
Doea anybody have any old Delorean World magazines for sale?
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Date: 14-Sep-99 9:53:08 -0500
When I bought my DeLorean in 1995, it had an aftermarket wheel on it, I
replaced it witha facotry wheel and subsequently traded the wheel and
adapter to Marty Maier here on the list.
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Date: 14-Sep-99 8:50:44 -0700
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a-bryn-@microsoft.com wrote:
My alternator went bad last month. I took the stock alternator to
alstar auto electric and Sam custom made an 85 amp one wire alternator
with an internal regulator for $125.00. My D has never been so happy,
the lights no longer dim when my subs hit 80 hertz.. The casing used
was a motorola and no mods were needed.
~Bryn
10010
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=2868
> Hello,
>
> who can tell me alternative types for the alternator/generator?
> The original Motorola alternator was still built to June 1996 by the
> French company Valeo, after Motorola gave up the alternator production
> in Europe.
> But now I can't unfortunately find a suitable alternator.
>
> Ulli, #03857
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Wheel Value Stems & Caps
Date: 14-Sep-99 11:56:50 -0400
In a message dated 9/13/99 9:35:10 PM Central Daylight Time,
dongowler@mediaone.net writes:
<< Can anyone tell us what the factory produced by Vin #? It's a concours
issue.
Regards, The Silver Fox Vin #'s 01149 & 10788
>>
Don,
The original "Factory" valve stems were aluminum. They came from the
"Factory" with aluminum caps, but in talking with some of the "experts" about
this I found many of the caps were changed to black plastic at the Quality
Centers because the alum caps and stems were corroding and getting stuck from
the salt from the boat trip over from Ireland and they couldn't get the caps
off. So this means some of the early cars were delivered with alum caps
while some of the later cars were delivered with plastic. I don't think
anyone knows what VIN's are involved with the switch.
Maybe James can shed more light on this one.
Marty
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In a message dated 9/13/99 9:45:24 PM Central Daylight Time, CBL302@aol.com
writes:
<< There is a unbuilt STOCK 1/24 Delorean model (not a matchbox size) for
Bid
on E-BAY,high bid is $70.00 looks really nice.Item #163922019.
Claude
Vin#006383 >>
Claude,
This is one of the kits I had a custom model builder make about 3-4 years
ago for me. I had a guy who does custom resin work make some molds and we
were able to produce 25 kits before the molds gave out. The kits were
composed of a stock Delorean body, engine cover, louvers and dash. When
combined with a BTTF kit, you could build a 1/24 scale model of the Delorean
in stock trim. These kits cost $40 each to make, so when you combine that
with the BTTF kit, I'd say the $70 bid on e-bay is a pretty fair deal.
Marty
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Subject: [DML] Door Latches
Date: 14-Sep-99 13:12:07 -0500
Hi folks,
I am preforming the "Door Latch Controls Setting Procedure" and have some
questions. So here goes:
1) I have noticed a lot of play in the latches themselves. When I manually
close the latches (doors open), the latches wiggle in there little
housings. Is this normal?
2) When driving the car, the right side door sounds like it is rattling or
bouncing with most bumps. When I look over at the door after a few bumps,
it looks as if the door has come open a bit (i.e. I can see light coming in
from the bottom) even though the door was shut securely. Is the bouncing
door due to loose latches and if so, why isn't the driver side door
rattling (all four latches have the play)?
3) While I'm here (inside the doors), is there a way to test the door lock
solenoids? I'm considering the Lockzilla and want to know how much I'm in
for. BTW the locks did fail a long time ago locking my now step-mother
(back then, dad's girlfriend) in the car for about an hour and a half one
winter night. Picture this. A cold and very pissed off woman yelling at
her boyfriend from inside the car in front of his mother's house. Dad had
the good sense to go inside and have a drink while she "cooled off."
Responces to any (or all) of these questions would be greatly appreciated.
Todd "Project Car 4 Sure" B.
p.s. (why yes, I do love parenthesis)
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Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Sighting
Date: 14-Sep-99 12:18:24 -0700
I,too,was there (working/playing). The VIN on that car was 2! It was
reported to be Prototype #2, apparently sold for $10,000. It needed some TLC
badly! I have articles & a picture from the San Diego News, November,1984
of a Long Beach auction where Prototype #'s 1 & 2 were sold. #1 for $35,000,
#2 for $21,000. How things change over time!!! Drive Stainless Robert
VIN 6924
>From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount@juno.com>
>Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com
>To: dmcnews@egroups.com
>Subject: [DML] Delorean Sighting
>Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 20:50:13 -0400
>
>Hey guys-
>
>I just got back from vacation to find ~300 DML messages in my mailbox-
>argh!
>So if someone has already mentioned this.. oops!
>
>I was just out in Auburn, Indiana for the annual collector car auction at
>Kruse Auction Park- I saw two D's out there. The first was a rather
>normal '81 D, the other was something to behold!
>
>The sign said it was picked up at an auction in '84 from DMC's bankrupcy
>overseer- a bank or whatever (I'm sure someone knows). It was an '81D
>prototype with the sliding half-windows, gas flap, hood lines, NCT
>goodyears, and no air vent on the rear quarter panel. The odometer read
>.8 miles! Unfortunately, I became instantly stupid and forgot to take
>down the VIN- duh. If the D trackers want to find out more about it-
>VIN, how much it was auctioned for or to, etc, you can probably get that
>information from Kruse- Don't ask me, I know no more than I've already
>said... though I managed to remember to take a couple pictures.. If
>anyone is interested I'll send a pic out when I get the roll developed...
>
>I remember someone mentioning a sighting of such a car in a similar
>situation a few years back on this mailing list; I'm not sure if it's the
>same one...
>
>Jim
>
>VIN: 1..2..3..4..5 .... 12345! That's the combination on my
>luggage!
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Subject: [DML] Re: Turbo and Audio
Date: 14-Sep-99 16:35:13 -0400
Marc A Levy wrote:
<snip>
> Some owners have chosen to not cut the plate, and install a newer shaft
> style unit. Kenwood had (I think it was discontinued recently) a unit
> that was shaft style, and would control a CD changer. If you can still
> find one, (Model 3001) they had a reasonable price. If you are a audio maniac (like myself) I dont think this unit will meet your requirements.
<snip>
It was the Kenwood KRC-3006 and you're right, it was discontinued
recently. I picked one up from Circuit City about 1 1/2 months ago. At
that time, they had 39 left in the Special Orders warehouse. It was
going for $139.95 if anyone is looking.
Also, the 6 disk changer fits nicely into the locking storage
compartment but there's no room on the sides for the mounting brackets.
I have one just sitting in there and it hasn't skipped yet.
Jim
#11544
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Subject: [DML] Re: new engine
Date: 14-Sep-99 23:38:51 +0200
if you want, we have in France some good way to find engine because it is a
very usual engine here. Here it only cost 2.000$ !
Let me know...
Cyril VIN # 1807
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> De : cbl302@msn.com
> A : dmcnews@egroups.com
> Objet : [DML] Re: new engine
> Dateá: mardi 14 septembre 1999 03:04
>
> cbl30-@msn.com wrote:
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=3011
> > I've always wondered how much it would cost to buy a brand new
> Delorean
> > engine and the cost to install it. does anybody have a clue?
> >
>
> About the price of a used Delorean ($8000.00-$12000.00)
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Giuguaro Designs New Tire For Vredestein
Date: 14-Sep-99 15:03:00 -0700
The ad for this new tire ran in several Norwegian Car magazines. You can see
it at e-groups in the DMC Vault. Unfortunately, you don't get the tire in
the 235 size :(
Mr. Stian Birkeland
NORWAY
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Subject: [DML] Factory Pictures and Illustrations
Date: 14-Sep-99 15:12:28 -0700
Hello all,
I've taken the liberty to add a folder at e-groups in the DMC Vault called
DMC Factory Pictures. Check it out!
Mr. Stian Birkeland
NORWAY
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Subject: [DML] No Subject
Date: 14-Sep-99 17:35:30 -0500
From: Jus4sho@aol.com
To: dmcnews@egroups.com
Subject: Rejected.
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:42:41 EDT
Rejected. My recent posting, inquiring as to the cause of these apparent
engine fires was rejected, while I see several "I agree" type comments
posted. This bothers me. As a car enthusiast, a DeLorean owner, and an
Engineer, I asked if there was a common cause or "defect" which caused the
fires not to start a flood of bad publicity, rather in hopes of possibly
helping all DeLorean owners by possibly designing a solution to the
"defect".
Isn't that what we're here for?
Having read several of the follow up postings to this subject, which
were
posted, I have concluded that there is no common cause or "defect" which
could be corrected. If there's no problem, then no solution is required.
That's all I needed to hear.
Finally, would "Fanzilla" or "Lockzilla" have ever been created if every
posting regarding problems with the Delorean's fans and locks were rejected
because "we don't want to give the car a bad name"?
Steve
VIN 2650
Steve,
The bulk of the messages I've rejected have had less to do with the subject
matter than the fact that the senders have included quite lengthy reprints
of the posting or postings they're responding to. I hate doing that but if
everyone could trim their quoted posts to a few key sentences the archives
will work much better as a resource for answers and we won't have as many
complaints about overloaded mailboxes.
Bruce Benson This weeks moderator
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Subject: [DML] Re: Disassembled D...
Date: 14-Sep-99 18:58:10 -0400
In-reply-to: <37DD9735>.4A36EC51
On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Dave Stragand wrote:
> The owner is asking $5000. When I asked last year, the responses leaned
> heavily towards the "the car is totalled" end of the scale. The average
Maybe. But you are in the interesting position that as far as you know,
everything is functional. Simply assembling the car should only take a
few weeks. Would be a good summer project assuming you have the space and
tools, or a good winter project if you have a heated garage. :}
> on the responses was $3500. I plan to offer him $3000, and settle on
> $3500-$4000. I figure this is a no-lose price, as I could always part
> out the D if I got too discouraged (or broke).
Sure. Fair enough.
Why did he disassemble the engine? Did he disassemble it in the form of
"I took off the clutch and all the accessory brackets" or in the form of
"I have a new head gasket and half a dozen valve keepers around here
somewhere"? :}
k
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Subject: [DML] HURRICANE FLOYD !
Date: 14-Sep-99 19:12:31 -0400
TO ALL,
Although hurricane Floyd is not expected to make a big impact on Atlanta it
is affecting our operation. We have already put a hold on our House Call
Tour # 3 to allow us to stay close to home just in case the situation
worsens. We will keep you posted.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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Subject: [DML] Re: interior color statistics
Date: 14-Sep-99 17:30:57 -0700
REmember that in addition to grey or black interiors, there were a few 83's
that had a two tone light grey and black interior - - VIN 16867 is one of
those.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Subject: [DML] Re: Door Latches
Date: 14-Sep-99 20:45:40 -0400
> From: Todd Bankhead <bankhead@netexpress.net>
> I am preforming the "Door Latch Controls Setting Procedure" and have some
> questions. So here goes:
>
> 1) I have noticed a lot of play in the latches themselves. When I
manually
> close the latches (doors open), the latches wiggle in there little
> housings. Is this normal?
>
YES
> 2) When driving the car, the right side door sounds like it is rattling
or
> bouncing with most bumps. When I look over at the door after a few
bumps,
> it looks as if the door has come open a bit (i.e. I can see light coming
in
> from the bottom) even though the door was shut securely. Is the bouncing
> door due to loose latches and if so, why isn't the driver side door
> rattling (all four latches have the play)?
THE STRIKER PIN FOR THAT LATCH IS OUT OF ALIGNMENT.
>
> 3) While I'm here (inside the doors), is there a way to test the door
lock
> solenoids? I'm considering the Lockzilla and want to know how much I'm
in
> for.
UNPLUG THE SOLENOID YOU ARE TESTING AND QUICKLY TOUCH EACH PIN IN THE
WIRING CONNECTOR WITH A 12 VOLT TEST LEAD. TOUCHING ONE PIN WILL CAUSE THE
UNIT TO ACTIVATE IN ONE DIRECTION AND THE OTHER PIN WILL CAUSE ACTIVATION
IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
CAUTION: CONTINUIOUS APPLICATION OF 12 VOLTS TO EITHER SOLONIOD CAN CAUSE
PERMINANT DAMAGE TO THAT COMPONENT.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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Subject: [DML] Driver Side Door lock problem
Date: 14-Sep-99 20:48:32 -0400
When I lock my driver side door and lift up on the handle it has a
little play to it. It sound like its going to open but just pop open
slightly and remains locked. Is there a easy fix or should I just live
with it..
Jim
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Subject: [DML] Re: RE. Kill Switch
Date: 14-Sep-99 20:49:12 -0400
This will work but be aware that this is a high current circuit. A switch
with at least a 20 amp rating is required.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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From: Dirk Wacker <bettycat@t-online.de>
Look for fuse Nr. 7 (20 A) and the green cable going to this fuse. Put a
switch in this cable. I think that's the thing you are looking for.
Dirk (VIN # 6795)
>I'm thinking about putting a kill switch in the car. Maybe somewhere
>under the hood since I have to put my car cover in there any ways..
>What would be best way to do this . A switch on the starter or something
>maybe coming off the fuel pump?
>Jim
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Subject: [DML] Re: interior color statistics
Date: 14-Sep-99 20:50:46 -0400
The original color was black, requests from prospective buyers and dealers
prompted the change to gray. There are a few cars out there that have gray
and black interiors, which actually looks pretty cool. The split is about
65% gray and the remainder being black.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
> From: AJL521@aol.com
>
> Hello
> I was wondering, what are the statistics on gray vs black interior
colors. At
> first I though gray was more common, but Im seeing more and more black
> interiors. Was there an original cost differance? and did it very by
> production dates? Of course there were also two of the three gold cars
that
> had a tan interior, which i personally like.
> (BTW) mine is a 81 with a Black interior. And is now running and driving,
> thanks to a replacement transmission.
>
> Andrew
> 4194
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean World
Date: 14-Sep-99 20:51:16 -0400
All back issues of DeLorean World are available from
DeLorean Owners Assn.
Marcie Haug
1617 Del Valle Av.
Glendale, CA 91208
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: delorean502@excite.com
> Doea anybody have any old Delorean World magazines for sale?
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Subject: [DML] Re: engine fire hazards
Date: 15-Sep-99 1:49:50 +0000
Thank you Joe, Dick, and Paul for your comments. Let me begin by confirming
that I love DeLoreans and drive one every day that I can, and have for the
last 13 years. I wouldn't do so if I thought they were unsafe. Period. I
certainly don't want to start a paranoia about driving one, and I apologize
if it sounded like that. But as someone who has been working on these cars
for years, I have to admit that I am greatly concerned by the number of fire
totalled ones out there. Two Pacific Northwest DeLorean Club cars (out of a
membership of 70-80 at the time) were lost to engine fires. I purchased one
of them plus 2 others for parts; plus I have personally seen 2 more that I
didn't acquire. Add to that the dozen or so photos I've seen in the last 13
years, and that's a lot of fire damaged DeLoreans. In that same time
period I have not seen any other '81-'83 cars that had burned. I totally
agree with Joe that the number one problem is probably the unskilled
mechanic, but the engine design, with all those fuel lines over the ignition
distributor, leaves a lot to be desired.
No, lets not be paranoid. But we had better be very careful. Inspect your
engine compartment regularly for any sign of fuel leaks, especially after
anyone including professional mechanics has worked on the motor. One of the
PNDC cars mentioned above was on its way home from a repair shop.
As for DOA, they refused to even acknowledge my request for input. They
didn't even have the decency to tell me I was wrong. I'm hoping that by
discussing this openly in the DML we can stir up enough diligence to make
this potential problem unworthy of further concern.
By the way Dick, and others who may wonder, I sell DeLorean parts. I do not
operate a repair shop for several reasons - I recently moved to the
boondocks and don't have a new shop built yet; I already have a full time
job; and mostly I don't consider myself qualified enough to deal with some
of these issues which relate to owner safety. But I do speak from the
knowledge of having owned 6 DeLoreans, and having been in contact with
hundreds of other owners over the years from selling parts.
Darryl Tinnerstet
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Subject: [DML] Universal Studios Back to the Future DMC
Date: 14-Sep-99 19:51:01 -0600
I was on vaction in Florida in August and Universal Studios had 1 of the Back-To-The-Future cars
out for pictures. Boy what a sad sight.
Huge eye-brows, the interior had turned from gray to brown and all the molding outside was
falling apart. I couldn't even see the point of taking my picture with it.
Just thought you would like to know.
Keep up the good work moderators.
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Subject: [DML] Headliner color?
Date: 14-Sep-99 21:57:37 -0400
I have a 81 with a black interior and the headliner is a light tan with
the sun visors a medium gray. It this the correct or did a pervious
owner come up with this?
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Subject: [DML] Need Help
Date: 14-Sep-99 23:34:40 -0400
I recently purchased from PJ Grady new headliners after reading the rave
reviews they have rec'd here. I am trying to put them in. Does anyone have
instructions on cutting the fabric for the two center pieces. The door
panels were a snap, literally....why not the center?
Also, one other MAJOR issue. I had my D at my local mechanic for an
inspection and a radiator flush (had a vapor lock I think-it kept
overheating as soon as you started it). Anyhow, I noticed about 4 teens
and 2 mechanics admiring the engine compartment. Larry the owner told his
employee to bring the car over since the owner was there to pick it up.
They close the louvers etc.... I get home and want to check something in the
engine compartment and the metal grate will not stay up. I look under the
grate and find that the "hooking" device to keep the hood up is broken.
That is that the metal arm has nothing to keep it in place, and the grate
in the "up" position. My guess is that the mechanic or the teenagers
"admiring/destroying" my D. broke it by just pushing down on the grate? Any
suggestions?????
Any help will most certainly be appreicated.
David Silek
Front Royal, VA
"I have always taken more out of alcohol, than it has taken out of me."
- Sir Winston Churchill
David W. Silek
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Subject: [DML] More info on info supporting new D
Date: 15-Sep-99 0:23:59 -0400
Ok i brought out the last message the other day when the canned frontpage
site came on, but i was searching the newsgroups, and lo and behold at
alt.autos theres an announcement by the "D2 web marketing team" to go to this
site. for the non subscribers just go to Dejanews.com and type in "new
delorean" and the link to this posting should appear in a few lines.
Once again keeping the
public informend with
easily disproved
information regarding how JZD
informs his following.
P.S. If you were JZD do you think that at this stage of the game you would
be going to the expense/lengths of hiring a full time web manager or using
expensive web design personell for the small ammount of info that he is
releasing. I would have one of my marketing guys do the webpage as a side
project too, and probly be happy with MS publisher results this early.
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Subject: [DML] Re: 350 in a D?
Date: 15-Sep-99 0:58:12 -0400
If you want 350 cubic inches, you should have bought a different car.
The Delorean was never intended to spin the tires and do 0 to 60 in 2 seconds. Mr. John Delorean set out to build the ethical sports car and I think that he did one hell of a job.
The PRV-6 (B28-F) has turned out to be a solid work horse and so very dependable. Even the Volvo dealer mechanics that I visited with this week, when I was purchasing an oil filter, can not believe that Volvo discontinued their use of this
The Delorean has several great things going for it, that most cars in it's class dont. The reliability and the cost efficiency were some of the main reasons for me purchasing my Delorean. Also the ease of working on this car is fantastic. I
I purchased my Delorean in Nov. of 98 and have put 7500 miles on it. The car has never left me stranded and I trust her to go anywhere. Since I purchased my Delorean I have repaired what the previous owner had not done including some update
So what it boils down to is that the Delorean is a great and economical way to style and profile. Dont screw up the good thing that you got.
erik geerdink, my best advice for you is to take some of your free time and quit talking about cars, go to your local technical school and sign up for auto classes. Dont just sit there, but learn what makes a car go. ( no the answer is not
I am driving the dream and loving it.
Robert Starling
Vin#5252
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<DIV><FONT size=2>If you want 350 cubic inches, you should have bought a
different car.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>The Delorean was never intended to spin the tires and do 0 to
60 in 2 seconds. Mr. John Delorean set out to build the ethical sports car and I
think that he did one hell of a job.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> The PRV-6 (B28-F) has turned out to be a solid work
horse and so very dependable. Even the Volvo dealer mechanics that I visited
with this week, when I was purchasing an oil filter, can not believe that Volvo
discontinued their use of this engine. They said that they has never seen a
PRV-6 (B28-F) that needed rebuilding. So it may not be the fastest or have the
most power, but in all rights I will say that it has to be one of best engines
out there.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>The Delorean has several great things going for it, that most
cars in it's class dont. The reliability and the cost efficiency were some of
the main reasons for me purchasing my Delorean. Also the ease of working on this
car is fantastic. I know what some of you are saying "ease?", but trust me on
this one. I have owned several cars that I would not touch a thing on because of
how complex they were. The Delorean for the most part is simple to work on if
you have any mechanical ability at all. Next, some of you will say, "well if the
car is so reliable why are you doing all this work on it, to know how simple the
car really is?" I have met two other owners that give me the pleasure of
doing some of their maintenance work. Most of the repairs that I have done
to their cars is because the cars have set for so long and have not been
driving. (For gosh sake drive your Deloreans! It does them no good at all to
just sit around and besides if you all wanted something to look at you could
have bought a model kit and saved thousands of dollars.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I purchased my Delorean in Nov. of 98 and have put 7500 miles
on it. The car has never left me stranded and I trust her to go anywhere.
Since I purchased my Delorean I have repaired what the previous owner had not
done including some updates. (The only update that my Delorean is missing
is the Tankzilla. The fuel gage is working and if it is not broke dont fix
it.) I have spent less money on my Delorean then my mother has on her new
car, not bad for a 18 year old car. ( This includes scheduled maintenance
service that she has to have done to maintain the warranty to her car. What a
rip off.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>So what it boils down to is that the Delorean is a great and
economical way to style and profile. Dont screw up the good thing that you
got.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> <FONT size=2>erik geerdink, my best advice for you is to take some of
your free time and quit talking about cars, go to your local technical school
and sign up for auto classes. Dont just sit there, but learn what makes a
car go. ( no the answer is not gasoline ) By learning how and why a car
works you will save yourself a lot of trouble, grief, heartache, pain, and
dollars. ( I thank God that I had June Brewer, as a teacher, to teach
me about what makes a car really work. If it was not for him sharing his
knowledge with me I too would be lost.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I am driving the dream and loving it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Robert Starling</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Vin#5252 <BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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<br>A very old issue of the DeLorean World had pictures of a DeLorean with
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aftermarket steering wheel.
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<p>That would be
<br> "Removable Steering Wheel Adapter Installation,
<br> The Ultimate in Security"
<br> by Jan Harde, photos by Kjell Myhre
<br>DeLorean World, Spring, 1989 (Volume 6, Number 3, Page 29)
<p>Hank Breer
<br>VIN 1141
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Subject: [DML] Re: aftermarket steering wheel
Date: 15-Sep-99 3:24:57 -0400
In a message dated 9/14/99 10:15:20 PM Central Daylight Time,
james@usadmc.com writes:
<< When I bought my DeLorean in 1995, it had an aftermarket wheel on it, I
replaced it witha facotry wheel and subsequently traded the wheel and
adapter to Marty Maier here on the list. >>
James,
I've still got the adapter sitting right here on my desk, and the
steering wheel is hanging up in the garage. I never really found a
combination I liked better then the stock Delorean steering wheel. The
after-market wheel I got from you is made by a company called "Grant". They
make a lot of different after-market steering wheels in all size, shapes and
colors. The adapter is also from Grant, but when I contacted Grant with the
number stamped on the adapter ( also faxed them a drawing of the splines and
taper on the steering shaft ) they told me they couldn't tell me what it was
( the number is a casting number, not a part number ) and they also said they
couldn't find an adapter to match the steering shaft info I sent them. I
truly think the "couldn't find a match" was actually more like "wouldn't
spend the time to look " type of thing. Oh well, what do you do with
companies like this ? I also contacted MOMO with the same info and got the
same response of couldn't find an adapter to fit. I do think MOMO actually
spent some time on their efforts though.
One thing I did notice when playing with a few different style steering
wheels, the stock Delorean unit really has a "deeper dish" to it then many
after-market wheels. I found with most after-market units, I had to telescope
the steering shaft out quite a ways so the wheel and your hands would clear
the binnacle. Doing this exposed the steering shaft at the adapter base, thus
not giving a very good appearance to the installed assembly. I know you can
cover this up with boots or collars, but this still gives the appearance of
an add-on. Like I said, I never was able to find anything I liked better
then the stock Delorean wheel. Again, this is my personal opinion and I'm
sure others feel differently. Maybe I just didn't find the "right"
after-market wheel.
Marty
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Subject: [DML] IAA Car Show in Frankfurt, Germany. BMW with gullwing-doors!
Date: 15-Sep-99 7:23:52 -0700
To see photos of BMW's prototype go to:
http://www.dinside.no/ds/owa/a.vis?id=5200
Does every automanufacturer go for the excellent gullwing doors instead of
the standard ones?
Good to know that DeLorean was 20 years ahead of them...
Mr. Stian Birkeland
NORWAY
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Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels
Date: 15-Sep-99 11:11:37 -0400
Rob, even designing a steering wheel adapter with the slip-ring configuration
so the horn could be on the wheel is not out of the question, but I wonder
how much interest is out there? (I know you'd want one and I'd want one, but
anybody else?)
Steve
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Subject: [DML] UK Lighting
Date: 15-Sep-99 11:43:34 -0400
After months of searching, I've finally bought an '81, 5speed ,left hand
drive.
Can't wait until it arrives from the US. Only 5 weeks to wait (weather
permitting).
Before I can register the car in the UK, I need to convert the lighting to
meet UK standards. I was wondering if anyone else who has had light
conversions carried out could recommend a decent garage who can do this for
me (preferably in the North West of England)
Thanks in anticipation of help.
Nigel Beatson
VIN 2677 (at last, I've got one!!)
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Subject: [DML] Re: Super Glue
Date: 15-Sep-99 11:37:29 -0700
Ask for "Gorrila Snot" @ your local parts store. A WELL-known knickname &
instantly recognized. Works great!!! Drive Stainless Robert
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>Subject: [DML] Re: Super Glue
>Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:58:26 EDT
>
>The best glue for weather stripping is 3M Super weather strip adhesive.
>Its
>like contact cement in a tube.
>
>Robert VIN 3309
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Subject: [DML] Re: Top Speed
Date: 15-Sep-99 11:44:10 -0700
I have topped #6924 out @ 119MPH in 5th; 112MPH in 4th. Not a hot rod, just
a NICE ride!! Robert Driving Stainless (No tickets)
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>Subject: [DML] Top Speed
>Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:25:09 -0700
>
>Hi Everyone,
>A friend of mine told me that he is not able to get his D past 85-87
>mph. I'm curious, did D's ever come with govenors for speed in them, or
>did some North American dealers put them in aftermarket?? I'm thinking
>there must be something wrong with it! If anyone could feed some
>insight on this, it would be appreciated, also could someone please
>tell me what the approx. top speed is?
>
>Thanks,
>Richard
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Subject: [DML] Long Island Delorean Owners
Date: 15-Sep-99 11:45:22 -0700
Would any of the Long Island New York Delorean owners please e-mail me
privately at Mdeluca@comtechpst.com I would like to get an Idea of how
many Delorean owners are in this area, please include what town you are
from,phone
number is optional.
I have been talking to Rob at PJ Gradys about the formation of a Local
Delorean club (just for fun type of thing maybe 3-4 get togethers a
year, nothing too crazy).
I would like to see if there is enough interest and maybe try to get
something started.
Please indicate if
1. You would be interest in participating in something like this?
2. If you wish to participate, would you be interested in taking an
active role?
3. Even if you have no interest I would like to hear from you to get an
idea of
the number of Deloreans in the area.
Michael DeLuca
Vin 3113
NY Lic. DLORIANN
Hicksville NY
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Subject: [DML] Northeast Delorean Assosiation?
Date: 15-Sep-99 11:53:21 -0700
Please see the my msg. Long Island Delorean owners, regarding the
possible formation of a Long Island, Northeast? Delorean association.
If a Long Island Delorean club were started I would have no objections
to expanding it to people in adjacent states NJ, CT, RIà.? I have
talked to some people from out of state who said they would be
interested. I would like to base the organization out of Long Island
Home of PJ Gradys (and myself) and I would just want to keep this
simple and fun 3-4 road trip/ meetings a year
Type of thing. I personally am very busy and don't have a tremendous
amount of spare time (I'm sure that's true for many of you also) but I
think this could be a lot of fun and would like to see if it is
feasible.
Note: if I get a larg response to this it may take me time to get back
to all of you.
Please e-mail me privately at mdeluca@comtechpst.com
Michael DeLuca
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Subject: [DML] Re: Fwd: Rejected.
Date: 15-Sep-99 19:36:44 +0000
I kind of figured that would be the DML's reaction. Frankly, I'm surprised
they ever posted my original comment, and I bet now they wish they hadn't.
That "bury your head in the sand" mentality is what DOA did, and it could
well have cost some owners their cars, and could be jeopardizing lives. The
twin turbo car I purchased as a total caught fire in the owner's garage the
minute he started it, and he managed to save his house by pushing it
outside. The other PNDC car that burned was being driven home from a repair
shop that had worked on the motor. He got out just in time to see his prize
possession go up in flames.
I too am an engineer, and a life-long mechanic and hotrodder. While I agree
with DMC Joe and others that the chief problem is probably unskilled
mechanics or owners tinkering with their cars, that doesn't excuse the fact
that the design of having all those high pressure fuel lines directly over
the top of the ignition distributer is very poor. Other than proper
maintenance and diligence, I really don't have any ideas to cure the
problem. I still trust the cars and drive one most of the time, but then
mine is Chevy powered, with one fuel line that is no where near the
ignition. And I still carry an extinguisher.
I agree with your comparison to the fan fail and door lock problems. We
can't pretend these defects don't exist; we need to just develop remedies
for them. And that's precisely why I appealed to those "experts" with more
actual repair experience than I have. But when one of the best known claims
he has never seen an engine fire in one, and way up here in the boonies I
have personally seen 6 plus photos of a dozen or so more, something just
doesn't ring true.
My only reason for bringing this up was that I felt it was a POTENTIAL
problem that had been ignored too long, and I wanted to open some eyes and
some dialog on it. I think I accomplished that. It remains to be seen if I
am the "hero" or get vilified, which is the direction I'm betting on.
Personally, if this thread saves one car or more importantly one life, then
I will feel vindicated.
Darryl Tinnerstet
Specialty Automotive
4 LaBelle Lane
McCleary, WA 98557
PH: 360-495-4640
FAX: 360-495-4680
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>To: darryl@techline.com
>Subject: Fwd: Rejected.
>Date: Wed, Sep 15, 1999, 10:33 PM
>
>Hey Darryl, Just wanted to let you know that I agree with your concern about
>fires in the Delorean. As a new owner, I'd hate to think of a fire claiming
>my car. As an engineer, I believe that if a "defect" exists, a solution can
>be found. I send message to the DML asking if there was a common cause for
>the fires and they rejected it. That's all, just asked IF there was a common
>cause. (Pissed me off to be honest.) Iwas just trying to help if, in fact,
>there is a defect, but apparently "we don't talk about those things."
>Anyway, I sent the attached message letting them know how I felt and it
>hasn't been posted, nor have I gotten a rejected message. Hmmm
>
>By the way, I still have your pictures. I'm very sorry for having them so
>long. (Other things have been going on and I haven't had time to really
>think about the D.) Anyway, I'll return them to you soon. I'm pretty sure I
>want one of the bumper covers, but I don't have the money for the quarter
>panels right now. (The pair from the burned D, Can you tell if they were
>distorted by the heat? The discoloration is no problem for me.)
>
>Thanks,
> Steve Stankiewicz
> VIN 2650
>
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Subject: [DML] VIN 4090
Date: 15-Sep-99 16:05:15 -0400
I had the pleasure of viewing a Delorean in the Hollywood Casino in Tunica
Mississippi. Along with an Elvis Car, the Batmobile and Motorcycle used in
Indiana Jones was this DeLorean from Back to the Future. It looks like a
real good copy of the original. the people there said it was from the movie
but I kinda doubt it based on a number of things that are not right with.
But it sure looked good very close replica
Question:
Does anyone have any history on VIN 4090 I would be interested in knowing.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Driver Side Door lock problem
Date: 15-Sep-99 20:10:58 +0000
A word of caution when messing with the door handles,(and rod assemblies).
If you get them out of adjustment you can cause unneeded stress on one part
of the door system. If this happens to be the outside handle mechanism it
can easily break since it is all plastic construction, and the metal
replacements aint cheap....(sound like the word of experience?)
-SweatyEddy
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Subject: [DML] Driver Side Door lock problem
> When I lock my driver side door and lift up on the handle it has a
> little play to it. It sound like its going to open but just pop open
> slightly and remains locked. Is there a easy fix or should I just live
> with it..
>
>
> Jim
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Subject: [DML] Re: UK Lighting
Date: 15-Sep-99 13:10:33 -0700
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Sorry, I can't help you with finding a shop to do it, but I just wanted
to welcome you to "Deloreanhood" Its a great car! As you may have
noticed, most Deloreans owners that you talk to will instantly become
good friends. Enjoy the ride, and remember....don't get frustrated
with little problem with the delorean...thats part of the excitement!
Erik Geerdink
VIN: 4512
PLATE: EGGS D
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Subject: [DML] RE INTERIOR COLOURS
Date: 15-Sep-99 22:21:49 +0100
Most deloreans were made with the black interior initially until complaints
about it being too dark and claustrophobic started coming in to the factory
and so the lighter grey colour became available for a more open feel or so
the designers say!
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Date: 15-Sep-99 23:26:09 +0200
> but I wonder
> how much interest is out there? (I know you'd want one and I'd want one,
but
> anybody else?)
>
> Steve
"me, too"
Yes, I really don't like the horn switch on the lever. But isn't it possible
to modify the original steering wheel? I don't want to exchange it, if
possible. When I've got time (I hope soon) I will look at it a little
closer.
Ralf.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Long Island Delorean Owners
Date: 15-Sep-99 17:32:12 -0400
Mike,
Like I said, you can count me in for this club.
I will be going to see Rob tomorrow at his shop early in the morning, if the
hurricane don't stop me. Rob is going to check an unusual noise from the
bottom of the car.
I will heading to Alabama to look up a school that is looking to join my
organization,
then I will be going to the meet in Gainesville, Georgia next week end.
Kayo
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Subject: [DML] Re: engine fire hazards
Date: 15-Sep-99 16:39:36 -0500
The Bosch fuel injection system used in the DeLorean was used in a great
variety of European cars. Volvo used a carbon copy in the PRV engine. Engine
fires haven't been a problem with them. First off one has to realize the
system is under quite a bit of pressure, aprox 5.2 Bar or 75 lbs. I belive
it was Claude that mentioned replaced the copper sealing washers used on
both the top and bottom of the banjo fittings connecting the fuel lines to
the fuel distributor. They are easy to drop when disassembling the fuel
lines and aren't always the easiest thing to find on a Saturday afternoon.
Once used they've been flattened and have lost some of the sealing quality
they should have. Maybe the DeLorean, being a "hobby car" sees more Saturday
back yard mechanics than the Volvo. The point I'm making is the system
design is excellent but attention needs to be paid in making sure all
connections are properly sealed. After all your holding back 75 psi.
Bruce Benson
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Subject: [DML] Location of Fan Relays
Date: 15-Sep-99 14:54:37 -0700
I'd like some help in locating the fan relays shown in the electrical
diagram and in the how it works diagram schemation found in the section
of the DMC manual. My fan Blower goes full tilt when the key is turned
on. In addition, I'm trying to diagnose a problem in which the car
runs fine for about 5 minutes or so and then starves out of gas; if you
turn off the key and then turn it back on, the engine will continue
along for several minutes. It always re-starts. I've replaced the
hoses and fuel pump but I haven't put an indicator light on the fuel
pump to see if the light goes out indicating no signal to the pump.
Originally I found a bad connector going to the relay that keeps the
fuel pump going and replaced the connector on the coil. You can email
responses to me at dstall@gvi.net.
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Date: 15-Sep-99 18:04:36 -0400
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Robert,
You must have been drinking heavily when you wrote about the "ease" of
working on a Delorean. I have built several high performance cars in my
time and the Delorean has to be the most stress inducing thing in my
garage. And reliable, please. Nothing works right half the time and
finding the right tools for stupid little things , like the tool needed
to remove the oil plug, is enough to cause an aneurism . And don't get
me started on the damn electrical problems, most of the time my brake
lights won't even work. So let me conclude by saying that before you
encourage someone else to pursue a higher automotive education you need
try working on the thing your self instead of paying someone to do it
while you apparently take credit. There is nothing easy about working on
this car!!!!! sincerely R.M.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels
Date: 15-Sep-99 18:11:32 -0400
A horn switch for the original wheel? Hmmmmmmmm. Got me thinking...
Steve
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Subject: [DML] aircon cross reference
Date: 15-Sep-99 18:22:52 -0400
greetings...
i am need of an air-con condensor, and a low pressure cycling switch (i want
to get these fixed before you can't get r-12 anymore)..
i live in canada, so, will have to order from the usa to get these parts
(thus, paying $$$$ in duty) i understand that the aircon system in our cars
is mostly gm parts.. does anyone know for a fact wether or not this is true
(if so, part numbers would be appreciated).. i am asking in this forum, as
i have been told that the "cross-reference chart" is not entirely
trustworthy..
thanks for your help, in advance..
mike cutting
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Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels
Date: 15-Sep-99 18:55:46 -0400
May i ask where the horn is at on the DeLorean, i mean to switch to turn it on?
- Shain
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Subject: [DML] Re: Runs Rough
Date: 15-Sep-99 19:31:40 -0400
I have had #1606 since 1985 and have had a few problems from the day I drove
it home and in the driveway it wouldn't start until today when I was taking
it for its emissions test. It started just fine but ran rough so I revved it
a little and it seemed to smooth out somewhat. On pulling out the exhaust
smelled real rich and on acceleration it shook and didn't really want to run.
A Quick trip around the block and back home to check things out revealed
nothing. Upon restarting it smoothed out and ran fine and passed emissions
with flying colors. Past experiences have taught me that the Electrical
system is usually the culprit in this car, so what electrical glitch is
causing this behavior? Hope someone on this great resource can help me.
Ralph Vin 1606
PS The first problem I had was solved in my driveway by phone with the help
of the now somewhat infamous Ed Bernstein. Thanks ED! Inertia switch got
kicked by me.
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Subject: [DML] Re: VIN 4090
Date: 15-Sep-99 20:10:05 -0400
does anybody know the history to dmc 1288? i just bought it and i am trying
to restore it in houston...mike
mike leising
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Date: 15-Sep-99 20:11:59 -0400
CAN ANYBODY TELL ME IF THERE IS A DELOREAN CLUB IN HOUSTON TX.
MIKE LEISING
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Subject: [DML] EXCELENT !, EXCELENT !, EXCELENT !
Date: 15-Sep-99 20:38:09 -0400
As I started to read this post I said to myself; "now here is a post that
says it all". As I kept reading it got better & better, I than said; "did I
write this; I don't remember doing so". I read further and said; "every
DeLorean owner, enthusiast, prospective buyer, and critic should make a
copy of this post, frame it, and hang it over their mantel.
Congratulations Robert Starling; I am making copies of your comments and
every time someone asks me about the value and reliability of the DeLorean
I will refer them to my mantle.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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From: doctor280 <doctor280@email.msn.com>
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Subject: [DML] Re: 350 in a D?
Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 12:58 AM
If you want 350 cubic inches, you should have bought a different car.
The Delorean was never intended to spin the tires and do 0 to 60 in 2
seconds. Mr. John Delorean set out to build the ethical sports car and I
think that he did one hell of a job.
The PRV-6 (B28-F) has turned out to be a solid work horse and so very
dependable. Even the Volvo dealer mechanics that I visited with this week,
when I was purchasing an oil filter, can not believe that Volvo
discontinued their use of this engine. They said that they has never seen a
PRV-6 (B28-F) that needed rebuilding. So it may not be the fastest or have
the most power, but in all rights I will say that it has to be one of best
engines out there.
The Delorean has several great things going for it, that most cars in it's
class dont. The reliability and the cost efficiency were some of the main
reasons for me purchasing my Delorean. Also the ease of working on this car
is fantastic. I know what some of you are saying "ease?", but trust me on
this one. I have owned several cars that I would not touch a thing on
because of how complex they were. The Delorean for the most part is simple
to work on if you have any mechanical ability at all. Next, some of you
will say, "well if the car is so reliable why are you doing all this work
on it, to know how simple the car really is?" I have met two other owners
that give me the pleasure of doing some of their maintenance work. Most of
the repairs that I have done to their cars is because the cars have set for
so long and have not been driving. (For gosh sake drive your Deloreans! It
does them no good at all to just sit around and besides if you all wanted
something to look at you could have bought a model kit and saved thousands
of dollars.)
I purchased my Delorean in Nov. of 98 and have put 7500 miles on it. The
car has never left me stranded and I trust her to go anywhere. Since I
purchased my Delorean I have repaired what the previous owner had not done
including some updates. (The only update that my Delorean is missing is the
Tankzilla. The fuel gage is working and if it is not broke dont fix it.) I
have spent less money on my Delorean then my mother has on her new car, not
bad for a 18 year old car. ( This includes scheduled maintenance service
that she has to have done to maintain the warranty to her car. What a rip
off.)
So what it boils down to is that the Delorean is a great and economical way
to style and profile. Dont screw up the good thing that you got.
erik geerdink, my best advice for you is to take some of your free time
and quit talking about cars, go to your local technical school and sign up
for auto classes. Dont just sit there, but learn what makes a car go. ( no
the answer is not gasoline ) By learning how and why a car works you will
save yourself a lot of trouble, grief, heartache, pain, and dollars. ( I
thank God that I had June Brewer, as a teacher, to teach me about what
makes a car really work. If it was not for him sharing his knowledge with
me I too would be lost.)
I am driving the dream and loving it.
Robert Starling
Vin#5252
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Subject: [DML] Re: Need Help
Date: 15-Sep-99 20:48:51 -0400
For information on your headliner simply call Rob Grady.
Concerning your broken cover stay:
Replace the broken parts and don't let anyone you don't know fool around
with your DeLorean.
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> From: David Silek <dsilek@email.msn.com>
> I recently purchased from PJ Grady new headliners / I am trying to put
them in. Does anyone have instructions on cutting the fabric for the two
center pieces.
>
> Also, one other MAJOR issue. I had my D at my local mechanic for an
> inspection and a radiator flush (had a vapor lock I think-it kept
> overheating as soon as you started it). Anyhow, I noticed about 4 teens
> and 2 mechanics admiring the engine compartment. Larry the owner told
his
> employee to bring the car over since the owner was there to pick it up.
> They close the louvers etc.... I get home and want to check something in
the
> engine compartment and the metal grate will not stay up. I look under the
> grate and find that the "hooking" device to keep the hood up is broken.
> That is that the metal arm has nothing to keep it in place, and the
grate
> in the "up" position. My guess is that the mechanic or the teenagers
> "admiring/destroying" my D. broke it by just pushing down on the grate?
Any
> suggestions?????
>
> Any help will most certainly be appreicated.
>
> David Silek
> Front Royal, VA
>
> "I have always taken more out of alcohol, than it has taken out of me."
> - Sir Winston Churchill
>
> David W. Silek
> dsilek@msn.com
>
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: VIN 4090
Date: 15-Sep-99 21:00:41 -0400
DOES ANYBODY KNOW THE HISTORY TO VIN 1288..I AM TRYING TO RESTORE IT AND
WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE HISTORY
MIKE LEISING
VIN 1288
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Subject: [DML] Re: Driver Side Door lock problem
Date: 15-Sep-99 21:05:30 -0400
Sounds like you have a misaligined striker pin.
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> From: Jim <starbuck@gate.net>
> When I lock my driver side door and lift up on the handle it has a
> little play to it. It sound like its going to open but just pop open
> slightly and remains locked. Is there a easy fix or should I just live
> with it..
>
>
> Jim
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Subject: [DML] A/C Fan switch problem
Date: 15-Sep-99 21:14:14 -0400
Either the Fan is on or off no in between speeds. Is this the switch or
a problem with the fan motor?
Jim
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Subject: [DML] Re: 350 in a D?
Date: 15-Sep-99 20:20:36 -0500
In-reply-to: <2527937E017F4443>
I think this is going to vary greatly according to what other cars you have
worked with as to the ease of repairs, and vary with the individual cars as
far as reliability.
I want to state first that we've only owned our D for about 6 months, so
others with longer experience may feel free to differ with my opinion :)
We've put about 3000 miles on it in that time. The ONLY thing that has
failed was the fuel pump and I aggravated that by running it out of gas.
This, from a car that has been in storage for 12 years or more is pretty
remarkable in my opinion.
As far as ease of working on a D, well, that depends. I'd MUCH rather work
on a '65 Mustang. That's easy! But, compared to my '95 Ford Probe GT that I
drive to work daily, the D is very easy to work on. Lots more room in the
engine compartment. The dash disassembles easier. Lots of other things that
are easier, or no harder than working on a new FWD car.
Just my $.02!!
Mark N
VIN 6820
At 06:04 PM 9/15/99 -0400, Robert Myers wrote:
>Robert,
>You must have been drinking heavily when you wrote about the "ease" of
>working on a Delorean.
<snip>
And reliable, please. Nothing works right half the time
<snip>
sincerely R.M.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels
Date: 15-Sep-99 20:22:07 -0500
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You sound the horn by pushing the turn signal stalk in towards the steering
column. I've seen other cars with this arrangement, so the D isn't unique
in this respect.
Mark N
VIN 6820
At 06:55 PM 9/15/99 -0400, you wrote:
>May i ask where the horn is at on the DeLorean, i mean to switch to turn
it on?
>
>- Shain
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Subject: [DML] Re: UK Lighting + wind
Date: 15-Sep-99 19:51:34 -0600
Hi Nigel,
I am from Manchester, which part of the Northwest are you from?
Do you know Dave Howarth? He will be able to recommend the right place to
take your car.
Which part of the US is your car coming from? I hope everyone in South
Carolina is hanging on tight.....
P.S. For all of you from Hurricaine climates, will your garages tolerate
140-50 mph winds????
Christopher M. Hawes
DMD (Delorean Model Dealership)
----Original Message Follows----
After months of searching, I've finally bought an '81, 5speed ,left hand
drive. Can't wait until it arrives from the US. Only 5 weeks to wait
(weather permitting).
Before I can register the car in the UK, I need to convert the lighting to
meet UK standards. I was wondering if anyone else who has had light
conversions carried out could recommend a decent garage who can do this for
me (preferably in the North West of England)
Thanks in anticipation of help.
Nigel Beatson
VIN 2677 (at last, I've got one!!)
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Subject: [DML] RHD Conversion?
Date: 15-Sep-99 19:12:14 -0700
Hi everybody,
A friend of mine wants to buy a DeLorean, but as he lives in England he
would like to convert it to right hand drive. If anyone has any info on how
much this would cost, how big a job it is, or what shops (either in America
or England) would have the expertise to do this job, I'd love to hear from
you! Or, if there are any right hand drive models availible, please mail me
back.
Thank you!
John Dore, Ireland.
http://homepage.tinet.ie/~johndore
PS For those who of you who were wondering, I have shipped all of the orders
for the DMC keychain set I am selling on my website. Sorry for the delay...
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Subject: [DML] Re: 350 in a D?
Date: 15-Sep-99 21:12:42 -0500
I don't want to start flames here but, I have to agree w/ Robert. The
DeLorean is EXTREMELY easy to work on compared to some of today's cars. I
have a '95 Trans Am and it takes all day to change just the plug wires on
it! Right now I have my D in pieces changing out the head gaskets. I
wouldn't even think of doing this to the T/A. I do agree that the DeLorean
is very qurky. It seems as soon as you fix one thing, something else goes
wrong, but I believe that this is caused by bad mechanics that have worked
on my D in the past. Once I started working on the car myself, I found
plenty of things that other mechanics had screwed up royally! Now that I'm
working on it myself, it is getting more and more reliable. (Not to mention
I'm saving a fortune!) I thought other D owners were crazy when they said
they used their cars as daily drivers, but, now mine's a daily driver. I
once looked at an engine swap like you are considering. I was going to go
with a 350 TPI out of a '88 GTA, but it would have been very expensive and
the stock trans wouldn't have held up. It would take ALOT of modification
to put a different engine AND transmission in there. Realistically, I
purchased a Vortech V6 that will do the job nicely. It has 210 HP which
would be perfect since the stock trans can take up to 250 HP. However, this
would still be more headaches than it is worth. (at least right now anyway)
The more dependable my D gets, the less I consider the engine swap.
Thanks,
Duke
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From: Robert Myers <Myers23@webtv.net>
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Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 7:50 PM
Subject: [DML] Re: 350 in a D?
>Robert,
>You must have been drinking heavily when you wrote about the "ease" of
>working on a Delorean. I have built several high performance cars in my
>time and the Delorean has to be the most stress inducing thing in my
>garage. And reliable, please. Nothing works right half the time and
>finding the right tools for stupid little things , like the tool needed
>to remove the oil plug, is enough to cause an aneurism . And don't get
>me started on the damn electrical problems, most of the time my brake
>lights won't even work.
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ok, people, I was just telling you a conversation I had with one of my
friends. Im 18 and I like to talk about fast cars. We were just
discussing cars and how cool it would be to have a delorean that went
kick a Mclarens butt! PLEASE, dont take that post seriously! and STOP
sending me e-mails like "YOU DONT NEED SUCH SPEED" and "TAKE A
MECHANICS COURSE AND STOP TALKING ABOUT CARS!" why would I stop
talking about cars? I am a PC engineer and have no plans on becoming a
certified Delorean mechanic. it was just simple conversation with a
friend and dreaming about exotic cars.
erik
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Date: 15-Sep-99 23:07:48 -0400
I disagree Bob. The DeLorean IS easy to work on. I've worked on just
about every kind of car built in the last 20 years and I can say that the
DeLorean has a kit-car type of ease of maintenance and repair. Most cars
have things about the design that, when you see them, you just wonder why
the engineered it to be so damned hard to work on. The DeLorean really
only has one item like that and I'd say it's the distributor. :) You can
barely even touch it with the tip of your finger when everything is
installed. Ok...the water pump is annoying too but that's about it. The
rest is really simple. The DeLorean has to be the only car I've ever
worked on on which I can remove the entire injection/intake system in less
than 10 minutes.
Yes, I disagree. But that's what this country's for.
--Rob Hook
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Subject: [DML] Re: aircon cross reference
Date: 15-Sep-99 23:12:46 -0400
Mike,
I humbly recommend that you get these through one of the DeLorean parts
suppliers. The parts are probably the same price you'd pay at the local
store except your guaranteed to get a part that will work for you. I just
purchased the low-pressure cut-out switch from DMC Houston a few weeks ago
and the price was certainly reasonable.
--Rob Hook
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Subject: [DML] Mr. Myers
Date: 16-Sep-99 3:21:35 +0000
At 06:04 PM 9/15/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Robert,
>You must have been drinking heavily when you wrote about the "ease" of
>working on a Delorean. I have built several high performance cars in my
>time and the Delorean has to be the most stress inducing thing in my
>garage. And reliable, please. Nothing works right half the time and
>finding the right tools for stupid little things , like the tool needed
>to remove the oil plug, is enough to cause an aneurism . And don't get
>me started on the damn electrical problems, most of the time my brake
>lights won't even work. So let me conclude by saying that before you
>encourage someone else to pursue a higher automotive education you need
>try working on the thing your self instead of paying someone to do it
>while you apparently take credit. There is nothing easy about working on
>this car!!!!! sincerely R.M.
Mr. Myers, I know Robert Starling personally; and trust me - he works on his
own car!
And a Beautiful car at that!
Scott Tester testersd@helicon.net
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Date: 15-Sep-99 22:28:01 -0500
Darryl,
I don't doubt your sincerity with this for a minute but I do have to
disagree with you regarding the design of the Bosch K-Jetronic fuel
injection. Ferrari, Porsche, Saab, the list goes on, all used the same
design. The Volvo has the identical system down to the last banjo fitting.
There were never recalls nor a history of fires with Volvos. Now if you
suspected electrical components as the culprits in DeLorean fires I'd be
very inclined to agree with you. The suggestion that we should figure a way
to redesign the fuel system so it's idiot proof doesn't make sense to me.
Even though many of us find the DeLorean simple to work on compared to
current automobiles, it's still a complex array of components that need to
be assembled and adjusted in a specific manner to function safely and
properly. I've been an automotive engineer for over 30 years and my opinion
of the K-Jetronic system has always been extremely high. It was the ultimate
mechanical injection system until all electronic systems came along.
Bruce Benson
> that the design of having all those high pressure fuel lines directly over
> the top of the ignition distributer is very poor And I still carry an
>extinguisher.I agree with your comparison to the fan fail and door lock
>problems. We can't pretend these defects don't exist; we need to just
>develop remedies for them.
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Subject: [DML] Re: A/C Fan switch problem
Date: 15-Sep-99 23:32:06 -0400
The problem is in the switching circuits. Start by inspecting the wiring
leading to the motor and make sure that everything is connected, no loose
wires. From your description it sounds as if someone has modified your fan
speed wiring.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: Jim <starbuck@gate.net>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] A/C Fan switch problem
> Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 9:14 PM
>
> Either the Fan is on or off no in between speeds. Is this the switch or
> a problem with the fan motor?
>
> Jim
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Subject: [DML] Engine Fires
Date: 15-Sep-99 21:44:37 -0600
For some reason people always seem to think that if one person is right,
then others with a different point of view must be wrong. How narrow!
The question has come up that if the fuel system of the DeLorean is a
"problem" that contributes to engine fires, why haven't other cars with
this same system had similar results.
I contend that it has to do with the demise of the DeLorean Motor Company.
Let me explain. People who bought Mercedes with the same system have, for
the most part, gone back to Mercedes dealers and mechanics for service.
Those folks know how to repair the systems properly. When DeLorean went
belly-up, many dealers didn't even want to mess with the cars they sold.
At that point there wasn't any good technical information exchange like we
now have. So, the cars were taken to mechanics who were unfamiliar with
the quirks of the DeLorean or the cars were worked on by the owners. Now,
there is nothing wrong with an owner mechanic, but I suspect many of these
were doing their own work out of sheer frustration, and with less than
adequate training or advice.
Bottom line - I still feel that the primary cause of these fires was
improper maintenance. If that were not the case, wouldn't we have seen
similar situations on other cars using the same or similar set-ups?
Living in the boonies, as I do, I have taken my car to ASE certified
mechanics who have, on occasion, done some pretty weird things to the car -
all with the best of intentions. Now, when I have to go to a
"non-DeLorean" repair facility, I take my manuals, I call one of the DML
"experts" and I research the archive before I go in. I print off anything
that I feel will make the mechanic more competent. I go over these with
him before I leave the car. If he is too busy to be bothered, the car
comes away with me.
I do not believe that the DML is burying it's head in the sand. At the
same time, I concur that a different placement for some of the components
in the engine compartment might have made sense. But, to this layman's
eye, this is much different and more complicated that Tankzilla's,
Lockzilla's and the like. Let's just make sure that anyone who messes
around in that section of the engine compartment knows what they are doing
and the potential consequences of sloppy work.
And, yes, I do carry a fire extinguisher. To me that is a necessary as a
spare tire.
I apologize in advance if the tone of this sounded like a lecture.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels
Date: 15-Sep-99 21:13:59 -0700
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rdh@hozt.com wrote:
The illustrated DeLorean World article that Dick is referring to is
Volume 6 No. 3, Spring 1989. Also in the same issue is an illustrated
article on the installation of a Cruise Control on a DeLorean.
The Past Issues index for DeLorean World is located on the Association
web site at:
http://www.delorean-owners.org/dw/index.html
Click on Past Issues or go directly to the 1989 issue at:
http://www.delorean-owners.org/dw/89-90.html
Association members may order all past issues of DeLorean World in the
DeLorean Store located at:
http://www.deloreanstore.com/
By the way, I have the pleasure of owning the '83 DeLorean which has
this 'removable steering wheel' and the cruise control that were
featured in the referenced articles, as well as a transmission oil
cooler and stainless steel performance muffler that were featured in
other articles in DeLorean World.
The steering is a three spoke leather covered wheel very similar to the
DeLorean stock wheel, except it has a flatter hub. It has a key lock
which allows it to be removed (although I have only had it off one time
since I hae owned the car for over 5 years.
Grant is building a website at:
http://www2.grantproducts.com/grantproducts/
Ray Haug
Internet Director
DeLorean Owners Association
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=3002
> A very old issue of the DeLorean World had pictures of a DeLorean
with an
> aftermarket steering wheel. In fact, I believe it was "detachable"
as a
> further guard against theft of the car (that was back in the days
when we
> owners actually thought a self-respecting thief would steal a
DeLorean).
>
> Due to remodeling, my DeLorean Worlds are not readily accessible now,
but
> perhaps someone with a lot of time on their hands might want to
research
> this.
>
> Dick Ryan
> VIN 16867
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: 350 in a D?
Date: 16-Sep-99 0:37:20 -0400
In a message dated 9/15/99 8:55:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Myers23@webtv.net writes:
<< There is nothing easy about working on
this car!!!!! sincerely R.M. >>
Actually you are right on some parts,the wiring is typical 80's British,but
from a mechanical standpoint it is relatively simple compared to the year
set of metric tools could work on the mechanical parts on the Delorean.
Claude
Vin#06383
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Subject: [DML] Re: Aftermarket steering wheels
Date: 16-Sep-99 0:46:50 -0400
In a message dated 9/15/99 10:59:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mnoeltne@ezl.com writes:
<< You sound the horn by pushing the turn signal stalk in towards the steering
column. I've seen other cars with this arrangement, so the D isn't unique
in this respect. >>
Came directly off the Lotus Esprit!
Claude
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Subject: [DML] Air conditioning Charge
Date: 15-Sep-99 21:57:10 -0700
Last year when I was in Palm Springs, Ca. the air conditioning on my D failed to blow cold so I took it in to a shop that specializes in air service. He advised me to let him convert the system to an approved refrigerant. Not being an air c
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Last year when I was in Palm Springs, Ca. the air conditioning
on my D failed to blow cold so I took it in to a shop that specializes in air
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Not being an air conditioning expert I took his advice. It worked fine until
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Subject: [DML] Fiberglass Headliners
Date: 16-Sep-99 1:57:35 -0400
I would like to thank Rob Grady for creating the fiberglass backing for the Delorean headliners. They work great and with their construction should last forever.
Anyone out there who is going to have their headliners redone, I would strongly recommend sending a little extra money and get the ones from PJ Grady.
Driving the Dream,
Robert Starling
Vin#5252
PS: I did have an upholstery shop install my headliners, as I do not have any knowledge on how to do this type of work.
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Anyone out there who is going to have their headliners redone,
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Subject: [DML] Weak battery
Date: 16-Sep-99 2:31:24 -0400
Whenever my car sits without being driven for approximately two weeks and I
go out to start it, it turns over to the point where it just gets enough
juice to start or it fails to start until I let it sit for a minute or so.
Once I drive it around, it get charged up enough to start with no problem.
Absent replacing the battery (which I may do anyway) and the other obvious
choice (drive it more often!), is there something that can be continuously
draining my battery? I seem to recall something on the list about
disconnecting something because of a drain on the battery but can't remember
what. Thanks
Mark D.
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Subject: [DML] Clearing a few things up...
Date: 15-Sep-99 23:53:08 -0700
Hi everyone, I'm writing this letter just to clear a few "rumour
problems" that I've heard about.
1. I was told that on some of the early '81 models (mainly w/black
intieriors) the bolt holes for the struts were drilled too far up on
the doors, this inturn caused the struts to place pressure on the
center of the doors roofs and thus forced them to "bow out".
2. The PRV-6 is prone to warped head gaskets with age, thus most D's
are now having this problem, and if not, are likely to incur it some
time soon.
Normaly I am skeptical about comments like these, but both came
directly from TWO MAJOR PARTS SUPPLIERS & SERVICE CENTRES.
3. The spare tire only holds air for about 2 weeks, then goes flat, why
exactly is this? Is it a problem with the original tire in place, or is
it with the rim itself? (disscussed before on the list, a matching car
tire is a '71 or '72 Vega, perfect as a spare or for winter storage) In
Las Vegas there is ALOT of construction going on (nails on the road),
and EVERY car we've owned has gotten at least 1 flat at some time!
4. Finally, Is JZD going to be a Grandfather soon? I was contacted by
someone claiming to be Kathryn, who says that she is raising money for
her father's new company, and her soon-to-be-born child. I know that
there are some "lurkers" out there on the list that monitor what goes
on for JZD. Maybe someone could shed a little light on the subject?
(either publicly or privately)
Thanks for everything, and keep in mind... 1,2,& 4 are only rumours,
not proven truths yet. Thanks again!
-Robert
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Subject: [DML] Owners check list, not for the car, but you!
Date: 16-Sep-99 1:35:27 -0700
Over time, alot has been posted about what to look for when purchasing
a DeLorean, mechanical problems, isurance costs, operation costs, rust,
etc, etc... But there is one thing that is commonly overlooked, not
operation, but ownership. Yes the issue of maintenance has been talked
about before, "If you can't afford to or don't want to do it, then
don't buy a D". And yes the DeLorean has it's quriks, and it's problems
as well. You can look at these as either nussancies, or even little
"calls for attention", it's up to you. Yes there are the little things
like the special oil drain plug tool, or even trying to fill the washer
fliud resivoir, etc. But these are all things that have to do with the
car itself. Other things such as the "Fuel Injection System Safety"
issue, I would have to agree are probably problemed in most all cases
by operator error. I can't truly think of any way to put this gently,
so I'll be frank about. Weather your a do-it-yourself guy or gal, or
even a garage mechanic, you should always be open to both critcisim and
advice, but not even that means that the feed back that you will always
be correct, informative or even complete for that matter. In that case,
a little independent studying and reading of books and manuals never
hurts at all to get the facts straight!
Most importantly: Will you drive the car, or will the car drive you? In
other words if the car has to adapt to your standards and expectations
(i.e. operation, performance, ease of maintenance, appearance, and
overall appeal), than a DeLorean is not a car for you. Yes most owners
would agree that a little more power wouldn't hurt, but a major
modification such as an engine/transmission swap IS IN NO WAY A
SOLUTION. If you'd like to go 150-200 mph+, then that's your bussiness,
please, go right ahead, thats ok! But for this purpose alone, spend the
money a on a new European import that was designed originaly for that
purpose rather than on some fancy engine swap for a D. If you want a
blue or purple DeLorean, then please buy a painted car and have it
repainted in turn, don't paint an unpainted car. Feel that a D is too
much of a problem to service yourself, take it to a mechanic, if none
are available, or your don't want to, then I have no idea as to what to
tell you except either be patient, or sell it to someone else. Unsure
about the car in any way, don't buy one! Finaly, DO NOT buy a DeLorean
as an investment because you won't make a profit, or at least one that
would make it worthwhile! A DeLorean's value is not measured monetarily
(sp), but rather emotionaly. No amount of money can buy the feeling
that you get starting your car in the garage, opening the doors in
public, crusing down the street and having everyone look at you all at
once, or even putting apart of yourself some where in the car (signing
the "cave paintings" or finally getting that clock to work!). I hope
that all of this helps you the reader to understand a little more, and
maybe even stirs some emotions in you!
-Robert
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Subject: [DML] Fuel tank mess
Date: 16-Sep-99 5:42:07 -0700
OK, I got the tank clean, replaced all rubber and the pump. I see some mess
in the metal lines, is there a way to blow them out? could I take off the
filter or would the accumulator be distroyed? Before I cleaned the tank the
car started to smoke (very black), someone said could be a stuck fuel
distrubitor and that I could unstick it myself how's that?
Charles
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Subject: [DML] dmc mechanic
Date: 16-Sep-99 6:17:56 -0700
well, I talked with my "local" Volvo dealer....they don't touch
Deloreans! Could someone give me a good name of someone who works on
Deloreans in the West Michigan area? Dan Pfeifer was the original
seller of the D, but I'm not sure if they service them or not still.
any help would be GREAT. 4512 is tired of spitting gas.
erik geerdink
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Subject: [DML] Oil Filter
Date: 16-Sep-99 6:24:56 -0700
I see that the original Oil Filter was a PURFLUX Part No. LS410-A. Does anyone know if this is still available or what is a replacement, if not. I am due for an oil change. My car has 6K miles on it now. I changed it at 3K miles when I
Murray
Vin: 5962 Lic: DMC-XII
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial Black">I see that the original Oil Filter was a PURFLUX
Part No. LS410-A. Does anyone know if this is still available or
what is a replacement, if not. I am due for an oil change. My car
has 6K miles on it now. I changed it at 3K miles when I got it. What
weight should I use. I would prefer a direct replacement with no adapters
unless absolutely necessary. DeLorean World Vol-7 #1 has a comparison
article on this filter versus the Fram.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial Black">Murray</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial Black">Vin: 5962 Lic: DMC-XII</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial Black">Washington State</FONT></DIV>
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Subject: [DML] Stubborn fitting on accumulator
Date: 16-Sep-99 8:10:20 -0600
Hi Everyone,
While using some of the excellent advice in the archives regarding replacing
the fuel accumulator, I have run into a frustrating problem - I can't get the
metal line to release from the accumulator. I can turn the accumulator freely,
but I can't seem to apply enough force to pull the line out. (Yes, I have
loosened and pushed the fitting out of the way.) Is the metal line flanged at
the end? I don't want to gouge the brass ferrule and have to replace it which
would mean having the end of the line reflanged.
Anybody else run into this problem?
Thanks,
Greg Guillot
VIN #2926
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Subject: [DML] Re: 350 in a D?
Date: 16-Sep-99 7:37:14 -0700
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ajl52-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=3103
With all the different versions of the Chevy 350, a person thinking of
an engine swap, could be thinking of something as expensive, fast, and
complex as a corvette LT1 motor. Or they could be thinking of something
as cheep, simple and reliable as a 350 from a 1975 Caprice.
The thought of a nice simple engine mounted fuel pump, rochester
quadrajet carb, and a simple ignition system sound like a real nice
idea. Just think, you would never have to worry about tank mounted fuel
pumps, $800 fuel distributors and failing accumulators ever again.
Just an idea
Andrew
4194
PS: I remember reading one time that Don at Delorean Motor Center had
an adapter kit to install a 3.8 V6, or a 350 V8 in a D. Does anyone
know if these are still available and at what cost
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Subject: [DML] Yellow DMC pic
Date: 16-Sep-99 11:09:58 -0400
I'm pleased to announce the addition of George Ryerson's yellow '83 to the
stable featured at my Painted DeLoreans website! The URL is at the end of
my tagline.
Enjoy! And thanks, George!
Brian Henderlong / Tampa, FL / DOA# 4977 / No VIN yet...
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Subject: [DML] DMC-80 pics in vault
Date: 16-Sep-99 8:32:58 -0700
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> I have been looking for a picture of the DMC-80, the bus. I saw one
on
> a website along time ago but I can not seem to find it anymore.
A great site posted these pictures of an early brochure for the bus,
but unfortunately that page is gone now (I am fairly sure). There was
some discussion about this quite a while ago, and to the best of my
knowledge these pictures are actually composites of an existing
European bus with the DMC-80 logo. This is one of DeLorean's "side"
projects that never got very far, along with the DMC-24 and DMC-44, as
it was funded by the NIDA money meant for the DMC-12, and DeLorean was
kindly asked more than once to drop the project in order to streamline
expenses.
The brochure struck me as interesting, so I saved these images on a
zip disk when I first saw them. I have posted them in the vault, in the
"DMC-80" folder.
--Mike Campbell
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Subject: [DML] Re: EXCELLENT !, EXCELLENT !, EXCELLENT !
Date: 16-Sep-99 13:29:31 -0400
Dear DML,
I must also agree with Robert Starling concerning his comments, and I
fully support him. For the record, I am one of the two owners he helps on a
regular basis. Without him, I would probably be fed up enough with my D by
now to sell it. However I fully trust him and his ability to work on the
car. I have learned a lot about the car from him and how to care for it. So
a big THANK YOU goes out to Rob from me, and my D car thanks him too!
Regards,
Darren Decker
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Subject: [DML] hoses
Date: 16-Sep-99 11:23:28 -0700
could someone tell me how many hoses I need for the fuel system. and
which ones i need. I know DMC houston and PJ grady have them, but
which ones do I need? thanks
erik geerdink
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Subject: [DML] Re: Universal Studios Back to the Future DMC
Date: 16-Sep-99 14:42:13 -0400
I found the same thing when my wife and I went to Florida in 1997. The car
was in the backlot area and we wereallowed full access to photograph it.
Our website has some of the pictures we took. You can see it at:
www.geocities.com/rodeodrive/8601/delorean.html
Happy surfing,
Jack Stiefel
Vin 3461
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From: The Haney's <haneydr@ix.netcom.com>
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Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 6:10 PM
Subject: [DML] Universal Studios Back to the Future DMC
>I was on vaction in Florida in August and Universal Studios had 1 of the
Back-To-The-Future cars
>out for pictures. Boy what a sad sight.
>Huge eye-brows, the interior had turned from gray to brown and all the
molding outside was
>falling apart. I couldn't even see the point of taking my picture with it.
>
>Just thought you would like to know.
>Keep up the good work moderators.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Location of Fan Relays
Date: 16-Sep-99 15:04:31 -0400
While looking down into the relay compartment the 3rd speed relay is 3rd
from the right lower row and the 4th speed relay is to it's left in the 4th
position.
Let me know the result of your fuel pump lamp test.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Clearing a few things up...
Date: 16-Sep-99 18:11:16 -0400
In-reply-to: <7RQ44K1F06>
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 DMCVegas@worldnet.att.net wrote:
> 2. The PRV-6 is prone to warped head gaskets with age, thus most D's
> are now having this problem, and if not, are likely to incur it some
> time soon.
This is not the case. The PRV-6 can get warped heads if you aren't
careful when you remove and install them. However you almost never need
to remove the heads on the PRV-6, so this is not a common problem.
Sometimes they leak with age (gaskets do that) but even that is not
usually a major problem.
I've never heard of a "warped head gasket." :}
> 3. The spare tire only holds air for about 2 weeks, then goes flat, why
> exactly is this? Is it a problem with the original tire in place, or is
I've never seen a donut spare which held the proper amount of pressure.
If you want to be super safe you should carry an air pump, but a AAA card
is lighter and smaller. :}
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Subject: [DML] DeLorean dealers
Date: 16-Sep-99 18:19:13 -0400
Hello List,
I am doing a report on the DeLorean and was wondering who they were sold
through. The local Plymouth dealer used to sell them here in Grand Rapids
Michigan. Were they only sold through one company? was there a "DeLorean
only" dealership? any info would be appreciated!
If there is anyone in the Grand Rapids Michigan area with a DeLorean that
would be willing to let me check it out I would be VERY happy. The only ones
I have seen are either indoors or under a cover.
Thanks for your time
David Phelps
http://www.delorean.cjb.net
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Subject: [DML] vault???
Date: 16-Sep-99 15:22:15 -0700
this may seem like a stupid question.....but what is this vault that
i've been hearing so much about???? i clicked on the links, but i asks
me for a username and password. am i missing something here??? i'd
really like to see some of the pics.
derek
1971 Pontiac GTO
***1981 DeLorean in my dreams***
__________________________________________________
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Subject: [DML] Re: Clearing a few things up...
Date: 16-Sep-99 17:26:24 -0500
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At 1:53 AM -0500 9/16/99, DMCVegas@worldnet.att.net wrote:
>Hi everyone, I'm writing this letter just to clear a few "rumour
>problems" that I've heard about.
(SNIP)
>4. Finally, Is JZD going to be a Grandfather soon? I was contacted by
>someone claiming to be Kathryn, who says that she is raising money for
>her father's new company, and her soon-to-be-born child. I know that
>there are some "lurkers" out there on the list that monitor what goes
>on for JZD. Maybe someone could shed a little light on the subject?
>(either publicly or privately)
>
JZD became a grandfather in early July, daughter Kathryn gave him his first
grandchild, a grandson. I have met Kathryn and spoken with her several
times. She is playing a vital role in the growth of the new company through
different capital-raising measures.
James
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Subject: [DML] Gas Mask
Date: 16-Sep-99 16:40:17 -0600
Help! A critter has died in the bowels of my car. Now, I've checked
inside the car. I checked in the comparments behind the seat and under the
package shelf. I've checked in the engine compartment. I've checked in
the front trunk. All to no avail. No critter to be seen - but, boy howdy,
you can sure smell him.
Two things gave me a clue as to where he/she might be. Two dogs were
actually licking the stainless steel on the front fender just behind the
wheel well. Then, when I removed the cover to the compartment where the
tool kit is kept -- sheesh - what an awful smell.
It seems that whatever is dead has managed to crawl into the front pontoon
on the passenger's side. It apparently crawled past the point where the
opening gets smaller on top of the wheel well and then died in the space
behind the wheel well.
I believe that the top of the pontoon is empty space and the bottom is
filled with foam. To get to the space it appears I have two choices.
Remove the front fender and cut a "retrieval hole" into the GRP so as to
extract the dead critter; OR, cut the hole from the trunk side. The latter
is MUCH simpler, but the results will be more obvious. Naturally, after
removal, I could fill the upper pontoon with insulating foam which would
give backing for the piece that was removed and then have it reglassed and
repainted.
Before I do either of the above, does anyone have any other clever suggestions?
Oh, yes, option three is to sell the car to someone who has lost their
sense of smell.
Help!
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Subject: [DML] Re: 350 in a D?
Date: 16-Sep-99 15:44:08 -0700
I am a GM fan. Yet I would have to say that even though all this might be
possible, you wouldn't go too far on a tank of gas.
I am also the 2nd owner of a 1974 Stingray show-car (67,000+ miles) that
shares daily driver duty with my 81 D (5,011 miles). The Vette only gets
10.13 mpg with the L82 engine and Quad4, while the D is providing 19.37
during my 3 weeks of ownership.
(DRIVE EM !! that's what insurance is for).
Sincerely
Paul
#2839 - "Hart DMC"
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Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 7:37 AM
To: dmcnews@egroups.com
Subject: [DML] Re: 350 in a D?
ajl52-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=3103
With all the different versions of the Chevy 350, a person thinking
of
an engine swap, could be thinking of something as expensive, fast,
and
complex as a corvette LT1 motor. Or they could be thinking of
something
as cheep, simple and reliable as a 350 from a 1975 Caprice.
The thought of a nice simple engine mounted fuel pump, rochester
quadrajet carb, and a simple ignition system sound like a real nice
idea. Just think, you would never have to worry about tank mounted
fuel
pumps, $800 fuel distributors and failing accumulators ever again.
Just an idea
Andrew
4194
PS: I remember reading one time that Don at Delorean Motor Center
had
an adapter kit to install a 3.8 V6, or a 350 V8 in a D. Does anyone
know if these are still available and at what cost
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Subject: [DML] Re: Stubborn fitting on accumulator
Date: 16-Sep-99 23:28:00 +0000
Greg,
Just keep wiggling like a mudbug.
There's probably a burr on the tube that is hanging it up.
I did have that same problem. I don"t think that it is a
flanged fitting, It is definitely a compression fitting of
some sort and those frequently cause burrs & problems
separating the fittings.
Richard
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Subject: [DML] Re: Engine Fires
Date: 16-Sep-99 21:15:19 -0400
HELLO EVERBODY
DOES ANYBODY KNOW THE HISTORY ON VIN 1288. I JUST BOUGHT THE 82 DELOREAN FROM
A DEALER. OR WHERE I CAN MADE A COPY OF A KEY IN HOUSTON TX. THEY ALL SAY WE
DONT CARRY THAT KEY..
MIKE LEISING
VIN 1288
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Subject: [DML] Museum
Date: 16-Sep-99 18:15:36 -0700
I just returned from a quick trip to Sarasota(Florida), escaping the
hurricane (we Floridians have that problem) and I happened to stop at
the Sarasota Classic Car Museum, which was a collection of cars owned
by John Ringling.(Yes, of the Ringling Brothers Circus) They had a
pretty nice '82 automatic with black interior on display. (Sorry, I
didn't catch the vintage number) The tour guide was nice enough to let
me poke around and sit in it and take some pictures of it. I've never
heard anything about this museum anywhere so if you want some more
information please feel free to e-mail me.
Also, does anyone know of any Florida/south Florida De Lorean clubs?
Thanks,
Dave 12's
PS-My brother hit his head on the door on the way out..lol.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Engine Fires
Date: 16-Sep-99 21:17:28 -0400
HELLO
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A LITTLE FREE TIME ON THERE HANDS IN THE SUGARLAND AREA AND
WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER MY DELOREAN. MYSELF AND MY FATHER BOUGHT THE CAR
TOGETHER AND CANT YET AFFORD TO TAKE TO THE DELOREAN OF HOUSTON DEALER YET..
MIKE LEISING
SUGARLAND TX
1288
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Subject: [DML] Re: Oil Filter
Date: 16-Sep-99 21:33:32 -0400
I checked the local Volvo dealer and found that all Volvos from, 65 or was it 68 to
present day use the same filter. (This does not include the diesel or turbo
diesel).
The filter they supply does have the check valve and the filter says it does
right on the side. The wording on the filter says something to the effect of
" This filter has a check valve to maintain oil in the filter to provide oil
when starting the engine. This will increase the life and longevity of the
engine."
I purchased one of these filters and it fits correctly. The price was $9.27
.
They also supplied the copper o-ring for the drain plug , but it is to
large, as the Delorean oil sump differs from the standard B28-F oil sump
that Volvo used.
Sorry that I do not have the part number with me now. But like I said there is only one oil filter, you should not have a problem.
Driving the Dream
Robert Starling
Vin#5252
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from, 65 or was it 68 to<BR>present day use the same filter. (This does not
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the filter says something to the effect of<BR>" This filter has a check valve to
maintain oil in the filter to provide oil<BR>when starting the engine. This will
increase the life and longevity of the<BR>engine."<BR><BR>I purchased one of
these filters and it fits correctly. The price was $9.27<BR>.<BR><BR>They also
supplied the copper o-ring for the drain plug , but it is to<BR>large, as the
Delorean oil sump differs from the standard B28-F oil sump<BR>that Volvo
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Subject: [DML] Autocross in St. Louis the weekend of the Expo
Date: 16-Sep-99 20:42:28 -0500
Hi Everyone,
A few of us in the St. Louis and central/southern Illinois area were
kicking around the idea of getting some DeLoreans out to an autocross that
is taking place on Sunday October 10th in St. Louis where the DOA Expo is
taking place. Disclaimer: This is NOT in any way affiliated with the DOA or
the Expo, and we're certainly not out to compete in any way. Just trying to
offer something a little different for those people who may be interested.
Anyway, the 10th is the last day of the DOA Expo and while there doesn't
seem to be much on the posted schedule, I'm afraid you would have to miss
the 10:00am brunch to participate in the autocross. It is being held at the
Riverport Ampitheatre grounds at the west end of St. Louis, about 20
minutes or so from the downtown area and you would need to be on-site
*before* 10am to be able to register. The events normally end by around 3
or 4pm.
The local SCCA chapter has offered to create a DeLorean only class for time
and scoring purposes if we can get 6 or more cars to compete. With less
than 6 cars we'll end up in the normal SCCA classes where the 'Vettes will
kick our b*tts :(
Autocrossing, for those of you not familiar with it, is a timed test of
driver skill. It is NOT dangerous to the car in any way, other than a
little extra tire and brake pad wear. It involves taking 3 or 4 runs of 60
seconds or less each, around a miniature road racing course built with
orange construction cones. It is held in a large open parking lot and you
run solely against the clock not against other cars. In other words, no
obstacles are present that could damage the car.
If you are interested in this, please contact me for more information. I'll
probably make up a web page in the next few days with details, additional
info, and a map to the site. But feel free to e-mail me at mnoeltne@ezl.com
to get more info, ask questions about autocrossing or anything else
concerning this. We would love to see a bunch of DeLoreans come out and
give the local SCCA guys a thrill!
Thanks
Mark Noeltner
SCCA member and DeLorean owner
VIN 6820
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Subject: [DML] Re: Engine Fires
Date: 16-Sep-99 20:49:34 -0500
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Hi,
The key is a Volvo blank. Any decent locksmith should have the key blank
and be able to cut it. Mine is an Ilco key blank # VO 73 X29. They should
be able to come up with that or the equivelant very easily. Our local
locksmith didn't blink an eye. Don't go to Wal-mart for it. Their people
aren't trained to identify keys that well and will mess up anything out of
the ordinary. A locksmith will charge an extra 75 cents more, but will
virtually always give you a useable key the FIRST time.
Plus DMC-Houston is right in the area. THE biggest supply of DeLorean
factory and aftermarket parts around. I'm sure they could either cut one or
steer you to someone who can.
Mark N
VIN 6820
PS--Please!! Don't shout! (All caps is considered shouting on the Internet.
Very hard to read.)
At 09:15 PM 9/16/99 EDT, you wrote:
>HELLO EVERBODY
>DOES ANYBODY KNOW THE HISTORY ON VIN 1288. I JUST BOUGHT THE 82 DELOREAN
FROM
>A DEALER. OR WHERE I CAN MADE A COPY OF A KEY IN HOUSTON TX. THEY ALL SAY WE
>DONT CARRY THAT KEY..
>
>MIKE LEISING
>VIN 1288
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Subject: [DML] Re: Stubborn fitting on accumulator
Date: 16-Sep-99 18:50:14 -0700
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Greg;
I have installed several accumulators this summer and have run
into the same problem. Make sure the four bolts holding the
accumulator are snug and holding the unit in place. Place the brass
fitting back on the unit but leave loose,just backed off a turn or two.
Now give the fuel line a sharp rap with
a wrench and hammer,not a fatal blow to damage the line. This has
worked for me both times and did not cause any damage. The line should
now come off when you turn back the brass fitting.
Good Luck
Richard J.Myosky
Vin 4419
Lic. DMC IIX
- I can't get the
> metal line to release from the accumulator. I can turn the
accumulator freely,
> but I can't seem to apply enough force to pull the line out.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Owners check list, not for the car, but you!
Date: 16-Sep-99 19:13:49 -0700
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Well put Robert! I agree with you 110% on this one. Guys, we have
something special. All of us have the love for the car, you showed that
by being part of the list. but less than 8,000 people in this world of
billions have the privaledge to OWN this mechanical marvel. When you
go into your garage to see your Delorean (and talk to it if you are
insane like me) open the doors and give a shot out to JZD. talk to you
later
erik geerdink
proud owner of 4512
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Subject: [DML] Happy fun fuel filter
Date: 16-Sep-99 19:44:59 -0700
To anybody who has successfully changed one, hats off to you! Now I
ask that you share your secrets...
Bottom fitting, piece of cake. Banjo fitting at top... hrmph... After
using pleanty of brute force and expletives, I have reduced a gyser to
a very slow leak. But, I can't seem to tighten it any farther. I am
using brand new copper seals. I did accidently use the wrong ones at
first, but the mating surfaces on the bolt, fitting, and filter are all
smooth.
So, any suggested tools or strategies?
Thanks,
Luke
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Subject: [DML] Re: hoses
Date: 16-Sep-99 23:04:18 -0400
The entire fuel system is comprised of 21 hoses. You will have to tell us
which ones you need.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: delorean502@excite.com
> could someone tell me how many hoses I need for the fuel system. and
> which ones i need. I know DMC houston and PJ grady have them, but
> which ones do I need? thanks
>
> erik geerdink
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Oil Filter
Date: 16-Sep-99 23:07:23 -0400
If you can't find any we have a few on our shelf.
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From: Murray Fisher <murrayf@innw.net>
I see that the original Oil Filter was a PURFLUX Part No. LS410-A. Does
anyone know if this is still available or what is a replacement, if not. I
am due for an oil change. My car has 6K miles on it now. I changed it at
3K miles when I got it. What weight should I use. I would prefer a direct
replacement with no adapters unless absolutely necessary. DeLorean World
Vol-7 #1 has a comparison article on this filter versus the Fram.
Murray
Vin: 5962 Lic: DMC-XII
Washington State
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean dealers
Date: 16-Sep-99 23:36:42 -0400
MacMulkin Chevrolet in Nashua New Hampshire was a DeLorean Dealer, maybe
the only one in NH. Many New England D's came from there.
D Mike Drake
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Subject: [DML] Re: Weak battery
Date: 16-Sep-99 23:38:13 -0400
Mark,
There are several components that can cause battery drain. The radio memory
and clock circuit are always drawing current from the battery. Although it
is a very small amount of current, if the battery is not charged by the
alternator on a regular basis, the battery will not have sufficient current
to start the car.
A faulty circuit or component can cause excessive current drain and cause
the battery to discharge in a short period of time. There are several ways
to locate a power drain, start with the most common. Pull fuse number 12
(courtesy lamps) and see if the problem goes away, if not, contact us
directly for additional test procedures.
BTW: a battery cut-off switch is highly recommended if you don't drive your
car on a regular basis.
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> From: MDinu89900@aol.com
> Whenever my car sits without being driven for approximately two weeks and
I
> go out to start it, it turns over to the point where it just gets enough
> juice to start or it fails to start until I let it sit for a minute or
so.
> Once I drive it around, it get charged up enough to start with no
problem.
> Absent replacing the battery (which I may do anyway) and the other
obvious
> choice (drive it more often!), is there something that can be
continuously
> draining my battery? I seem to recall something on the list about
> disconnecting something because of a drain on the battery but can't
remember
> what. Thanks
>
> Mark D.
> 16728
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Date: 16-Sep-99 23:57:30 -0400
To purge the fuel lines disconnect the fuel supply line leading to the fuel
distributor and place the line in a container. Jump the fuel pump (RPM
relay)
and run the pump until the fuel runs clear.
If the fuel distributor is frozen it is unlikely that the engine would run.
CAUTION: Be sure to use all standard fuel system service precautions when
servicing the fuel system.
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> From: Charles Major <charlesmajor@hotmail.com>
> OK, I got the tank clean, replaced all rubber and the pump. I see some
mess
> in the metal lines, is there a way to blow them out? could I take off the
> filter or would the accumulator be distroyed? Before I cleaned the tank
the
> car started to smoke (very black), someone said could be a stuck fuel
> distrubitor and that I could unstick it myself how's that?
> Charles
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Date: 16-Sep-99 21:02:12 -0700
Hello Everyone!
I wondered if anyone out there has any type of audio file of a D
running, or being started.. or engine..?? On the other hand.. if anyone
would be intersted in making one (given the time) please let me know!
Thanks ;)
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Subject: [DML] Re: Clearing a few things up...
Date: 17-Sep-99 0:07:55 -0400
In a message dated 9/16/99 8:05:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
DMCVegas@worldnet.att.net writes:
<< 4. Finally, Is JZD going to be a Grandfather soon? I was contacted by
someone claiming to be Kathryn, who says that she is raising money for
her father's new company, and her soon-to-be-born child. I know that
there are some "lurkers" out there on the list that monitor what goes
on for JZD. Maybe someone could shed a little light on the subject?
(either publicly or privately) >>
Yes it is true JZD is supposed to be a grandfather soon. He may even be one
by now. When I visited with JZD in June his daughter Kathryn was there as
well. She was 6 or 7 months pregnant I believe at the time. So he is
probably a grandfather now. Hope that answers one of your questions.
Gary Gore
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Date: 17-Sep-99 0:17:07 -0400
Where did you get your filter ?
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> From: Luke.Sandel@cmich.edu
>
> To anybody who has successfully changed one, hats off to you! Now I
> ask that you share your secrets...
> So, any suggested tools or strategies?
>
> Thanks,
> Luke
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Date: 17-Sep-99 0:37:26 -0400
Did you know that history is about to be made in Gainesville Georgia next
weekend. That's right; yours truly DMC Joe, Rob Grady, and Stephen Wynne
will all be together an the same room spreading our wealth of knowledge to
all the DeLorean owners who will be attending this great event. Yes, most
hotels in the immediate area are booked but there are plenty of rooms
available a short drive away. There is still time to register, don't miss
this history making event! Go to
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Subject: [DML] Car shipment from California...
Date: 16-Sep-99 22:06:12 -0700
Has anyone had any experiences working with Car shippers?
I'm trying to get one shipped out of Northern Cal. right now, but things
are a bit crazy. Hopefully it will get picked up next Monday or
Tuesday, but I've already had one bad experience with false promises
from a shipper, and am a bit wary of the way my current shipper
subcontracted the job.
I guess what I really want to know is, whether or not you have had any
experiences with shippers not honoring verbal commitments for long
periods of time, as well as your relative level of satisfaction. Also
any advice on who to choose to ship if this one falls through would be
greatly appreciated.
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Subject: [DML] Re: FW: Door Latches
Date: 17-Sep-99 0:11:59 -0500
000Importance: Normal
Since we're on the subject, I'm gonna "me too".
This is probably the one single problem with my D that absolutely makes me
nuts. In order to close the passenger door, it must be SLAMMED. Hard.
When I have a more petite passenger, I usually need to close the door for
them since they can't pull it down hard enough.
The problem looks like the rear latch, since it will be halfway-latched when
the front latch is completely closed. I have tried adjusting the striker
pin as far out/up as it will go with no success. The driver's door closes
perfectly and easily.
I had DMC Houston look at it in December, but once of things he was doing
was replacing the door seals and we agreed that the new seals should have
some time to seat, but it hasn't gotten any better. However, I get the
distinct impression that the door is out of alignment with the body and the
realignment procedure involves popping the torsion bars and adjusting every
stainless panel on the car!
I'm half-tempted to cut the body (!!?!) so that the striker pin will adjust
outward further, but I'm afraid that if I completely remove the pin, it's
backing plate will disappear into the door jamb forever.
I really hate slamming that door.
Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695
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<P>Since we're on the subject, I'm gonna "me too".</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT color=#800000 face="Rockwell Light" size=2>This is probably the one
single problem with my D that absolutely makes me nuts. In order to close
the passenger door, it must be SLAMMED. Hard. When I have a more
petite passenger, I usually need to close the door for them since they can't
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<P><FONT color=#800000 face="Rockwell Light" size=2>The problem looks like the
rear latch, since it will be halfway-latched when the front latch is completely
closed. I have tried adjusting the striker pin as far out/up as it will go
with no success. The driver's door closes perfectly and easily.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#800000 face="Rockwell Light" size=2>I had DMC Houston look at it
in December, but once of things he was doing was replacing the door seals and we
agreed that the new seals should have some time to seat, but it hasn't gotten
any better. However, I get the distinct impression that the door is out of
alignment with the body and the realignment procedure involves popping the
torsion bars and adjusting every stainless panel on the car!</FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#800000 face="Rockwell Light" size=2>I'm half-tempted to cut the
body (!!?!) so that the striker pin will adjust outward further, but I'm afraid
that if I completely remove the pin, it's backing plate will disappear into the
door jamb forever.</FONT></P>
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Date: 16-Sep-99 22:32:20 -0700
delorean502@excite.com wrote:
>
> well, I talked with my "local" Volvo dealer....they don't touch
> Deloreans! Could someone give me a good name of someone who works on
> Deloreans in the West Michigan area? Dan Pfeifer was the original
> seller of the D, but I'm not sure if they service them or not still.
> any help would be GREAT. 4512 is tired of spitting gas.
>
> erik geerdink
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Erik,
La Liberte Auto Center in Portage (suburban Kalamazoo)
1-800-750-4850 can probably help..They've worked on my VW Bosch
system.. Aaron Mills is a mechanic there and often drives his Delorean
to work..
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6077
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Subject: [DML] Re: Air conditioning Charge
Date: 17-Sep-99 0:37:52 -0700
Freeze-12 is simply a combination of R-143A and some other gases. It is
extremely uncommon to find service centers that support this, but there
are probably some that will do a real R134 conversion for you.
As to whether or not this conversion would work effectively on a
Delorean, I really don't know. :-) Perhaps someone else could shed
some light on the issue?
> Hal Palmer wrote:
>
> Last year when I was in Palm Springs, Ca. the air conditioning on my D
> failed to blow cold so I took it in to a shop that specializes in air
> service. He advised me to let him convert the system to an approved
> refrigerant. Not being an air conditioning expert I took his advice.
> It worked fine until this summer when again it needed service at my
> home in Washington State. I discovered he used a refrigerant called
> Freeze 12. (not freon) Now I cant find anyone in the area to service
> it. Was advised it would cost about $300 to convert it back. Anyone
> have any thought's or advice?? Thanks
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Subject: [DML] Re: dmc mechanic
Date: 17-Sep-99 5:28:07 -0400
eric
if you are in the Cleveland area try DeLorean Caddalac
They have a DeLorean Mechanic there
If in The Columbus Area try Baurle Motors or Jerry Rhine
I'm sure you know of the regular 3 service centers already
Ken
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Subject: [DML] Re: Talking D!
Date: 17-Sep-99 13:49:29 +0200
Hi Richard
> I wondered if anyone out there has any type of audio file of a D
> running, or being started.. or engine..?? On the other hand.. if anyone
> would be intersted in making one (given the time) please let me know!
> Thanks ;)
You will find such audio files (WAV and MP3) at http://www.DeLorean.ch .
The site is in german language, so just click on the menu "Dateien", and
look for "Sounds".
There are just two yet (both VIN# 11512), but as soon as I find some spare
time, I'll add some more.
Have fun!
Roland
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Subject: [DML] Re: Air conditioning Charge
Date: 17-Sep-99 8:23:46 -0400
Convert it back to R-12. Make sure the system is properly flushed, and
all of the old oil is removed. I would also consider replacing the
Dryer, and Orifice, and replace all of the seals.
IMHO, there is no reason to convert your DeLorean to anything. R-12
works fine, and the small additional cost for R-12 when you need a pound
every 3 years or so will not make a difference.
> Hal Palmer wrote:
>
> it. Was advised it would cost about $300 to convert it back. Anyone
> have any thought's or advice?? Thanks
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Subject: [DML] Re: Gas Mask
Date: 17-Sep-99 9:28:30 -0400
Dick, I've never had the fender off of my D yet so I can't say if there's a
way to extract your "little buddy" without cutting your car, but if there
ends up being no way w/o cutting, I'd like to point out that once he dries
up, the smell will go away. It may take a couple weeks, but I'd really hate
to see you have to cut your car.
Suggestion 2, twenty-five of those pine tree air fresheners hanging from the
rearview mirror should take care of it! (just kidding)
Good Luck, Let me know how this turns out. It's an irritating problem that
could happen to any of us!
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Subject: [DML] Re: Gas Mask
Date: 17-Sep-99 6:36:12 -0700
You could drive backwards all the time for the next few years until the odor
wears out. Or you could get some nicely painted clothespins and hang them
on a pretty stainless steel rack for all your passsengers! FWIW
Murray Vin:
VIN: 5962 Lic: DMC-XII
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Subject: [DML] Oil Filters
Date: 17-Sep-99 6:41:46 -0700
Many thanks to all the private responses I got on which oil filter to use. Being in a small town I was not aware the original was still available and have ordered two of them from Joe.
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Subject: [DML] Southeastern Cruise-In
Date: 17-Sep-99 10:09:52 -0400
It looks as if there will be a good turnout for the First Biannual Southeast
DeLorean Owners Cruise-In to be held next weekend (September 25-26) in
Gainesville, Georgia. We have reservations from owners in Ohio, Virginia,
North and South Carolina, Alabama, Texas, Florida, Kentucky and Tennessee.
Go to DMCJoe's Web site at www.DeLoreanServices.com for more information and
then make plans to come to the Georgia mountains for an enjoyable,
informative weekend.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Auto Transporters
Date: 17-Sep-99 10:59:44 -0400
Most of these transport companies are just brokers. They do not own their
own vehicles. The look for someone who is available to go past your area
towards your destination.
Make SURE they have enough insurance to cover your car AND the rest they are
trucking. Get an enclosed trailer if affordable. Find out how many times
they will have to load/unload your vehicle enroute. Each time risks damage.
(Check odometer reading when loaded and when delivered.) Make sure the same
driver will be with the vehicle the entire distance. They are never on time
so make sure they pickup/deliver when YOU are available. NEVER, EVER send
or accept a vehicle after dark or in the rain. Make them stay overnight
nearby if they try to do this. Upon delivery examine very carefully,
including a short test drive before the car is signed for. Hope this helps.
Also, noting all the troubles people are having with their D's. I guess I
am very fortunate to have few problems. Wish I could keep mine. Pics
available if anyone is interested.
Mike
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Subject: [DML] Re: air conditioning charge
Date: 17-Sep-99 11:17:47 -0400
>Freeze-12 is simply a combination of R-143A and some other >gases. It is
>extremely uncommon to find service centers that support this, >but there
>are probably some that will do a real R134 conversion for you.
Earlier this summer I had my entire A/C blown out, cleaned out, and updated.
The dealer suggested a converstion to R134 so I let him. It works fine,
blows cold. I have to say I was never in a really hot situation and that my
pickup with R12 does seem colder but unless you are in a hot climate, R134
should be fine. If its not, its an easy job to replace the oil in the
compressor and recharge with R12. The R134 converstion seals will work with
both. However that is not true if reversed. R12 seals will not work with
R134.
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Subject: [DML] car won't start when hot
Date: 17-Sep-99 15:36:44 +0000
I have a problem. My car won't start when it's hot.
It loses pressure (doesn't hold 3 bar pressure for
half a hour). Apparently the fuel evaporates in the
line and the car won't start until engine has cooled
sufficiently for fuel to travel through.
Have changed one way valve in fuel pump, cleaned
and checked metering head, checked all injectors
and seals. Have changed oxygen sensors.
The only thing I haven't checked is a valve at the
back of the engine (looking at the engine, there's a
valve on the engine wall at the rear left - I don't
know what this is and it's the only thing I haven't
checked). Could this be the problem?
Any other ideas?
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Subject: [DML] Re: Gas Mask
Date: 17-Sep-99 11:56:18 -0400
There are no hollow voids in the front GRP (pontoon) body section. There
are, however, two other areas at the front of the car that make nice
critter homes. One is in the jack storage compartment. This area spans from
fender to fender. You will need a mirror and flashlight placed in the jack
storage compartment to see the entire space.
The next open space is located behind the headlights and front grill.
Remove the front grill to inspect this area.
The last possibility is the space between the GRP body and the fender.
Remove the fender to access this area.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: raddad@cmn.net
>
> Help! A critter has died in the bowels of my car. Now, I've checked
> inside the car. I checked in the comparments behind the seat and under
the
> package shelf. I've checked in the engine compartment. I've checked in
> the front trunk. All to no avail. No critter to be seen - but, boy
howdy,
> you can sure smell him.
> Help!
>
> Dick Ryan
> VIN 16867
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Subject: [DML] Re: FW: Door Latches
Date: 17-Sep-99 12:00:24 -0400
Before making any decisions on door alignment completely remove the entire
door seal to eliminate it as a cause of your problem.
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From: Gus Schlachter <gus@austin.rr.com>
I had DMC Houston look at it in December, but once of things he was doing
was replacing the door seals and we agreed that the new seals should have
some time to seat, but it hasn't gotten any better. However, I get the
distinct impression that the door is out of alignment with the body and the
realignment procedure involves popping the torsion bars and adjusting every
stainless panel on the car!
I'm half-tempted to cut the body (!!?!) so that the striker pin will adjust
outward further, but I'm afraid that if I completely remove the pin, it's
backing plate will disappear into the door jamb forever.
I really hate slamming that door.
Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695
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Subject: [DML] Re: Air conditioning Charge
Date: 17-Sep-99 13:37:46 -0400
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On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Jesse D. Sightler wrote:
> As to whether or not this conversion would work effectively on a
> Delorean, I really don't know. :-) Perhaps someone else could shed
> some light on the issue?
It's been done, but it's a bad idea. Conversion of A/C systems to other
refrigerants is primarily useful for transferring money into the pockets
of the A/C technicians. At best it will work the same, but most likely it
will get worse.
It is possible to convert the DeLorean system (which is an off the shelf
GM air conditioner) to R134, but you will wind up with a higher failure
rate of components (due to the high pressure) and probably a less
effective air conditioner.
An R-12 air conditioner in good condition will not harm the ozone layer.
R-12 can only harm the ozone layer if it can get out of the air
conditioner, and it can't if it doesn't leak. There is no need to lose
freon into the atmosphere when charging or servicing the unit, either.
Good air conditioning technicians should have equipment capable of
recovering all the freon from the system. In addition, it is legal to
use, buy, and sell R-12 refrigerant. Many A/C technicians will mislead
you on this point, or try to convince you that R-12 is in some way
unavailable. That is simply false.
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Subject: [DML] Re: hoses
Date: 17-Sep-99 13:14:39 -0500
Erik
Download the DeLorean parts manual from the DMC News
web site and spend some quality time with it. In my opinion
parts manuals for cars are more valuable than the service
manuals because the parts manuals show exploded
diagrams of all of the subsystems in the car. Section
2 contains all of the Fuel System information you will
need. You can learn an awful lot about the DeLorean
from this book without ever touching a wrench.
Mike Griese
Storage Software Development Manager
IBM Storage Systems Division
Rochester, MN 55901
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Subject: [DML] Re: Autocross in St. Louis the weekend of the Expo
Date: 17-Sep-99 13:29:43 -0500
I recommend this to EVERYONE! Autocrossing is a blast and is
an inexpensive, SAFE way to learn about the handling and performance
characteristics of any car. Spending one afternoon at an
autocross course will teach you more about understeer,
oversteer, turn-in, balance, braking, acceleration and general
car control than all of the books on driving technique could
ever teach you.
Mike Griese
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Subject: [DML] Re: Clearing a few things up...or not!
Date: 17-Sep-99 12:02:55 -0700
> In a message dated 9/16/99 8:05:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> writes:
>
> 4. Finally, Is JZD going to be a Grandfather soon? I was contacted by someone >claiming to be Kathryn, who says that she is raising money for her father's >new company, and her soon-to-be-born child. I know that there are some >"lurkers"
>little light on the subject?
> (either publicly or privately) >>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Yes it is true JZD is supposed to be a grandfather soon. He may even be one >by now. When I visited with JZD in June his daughter Kathryn was there as >well. She was 6 or 7 months pregnant I believe at the time. So he is probably >a gran
>Hope that answers one of your questions.
>
Who cares? Why must we delve into this mans private life. I thought this
forum was to exchange ideas & help others in the repair and restoration
of our wonderful automobiles. Not to expound upon who is closest to JZD
himself!
Lets not let this group disintegrate into a "Inside Edition" style
forum, leave that to a gossip group. I am sure that if & when news of a
new car is eminate we will not be the only ones to know about it, info
will be free flowing as to hype any impending ofering.
I enjoy reading the help that all are giving & receiving with the
exchange of information here, but don't bore us with the daily comings &
goings of JZD.
My 12 cents I'm sure others feel the same or will also disagree.
Gary V.
Delorean enthusiast
and owner
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Subject: [DML] DeLorean For Sale in South West Florida
Date: 17-Sep-99 14:47:43 -0500
For Sale: 1981 DeLorean, June 81 build, 60,000 miles, very near perfect
stainless steel body, black leather, automatic transmition, gas flap in
hood, most updates, car is in near perfect shape. Asking $15,900 or best
offer.
Albert Siegel
Ft. Myers 941-277-9471
siegel@technologist.com
albertsiegel@earthlink.com
alsiegel@aol.com
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Subject: [DML] Re: Car shipment from California...
Date: 17-Sep-99 12:55:34 -0700
I have successfully used a company out of Newark, Ca. a few times called
Falcon Auto Transport(div. of United Road Services, Inc.) to ship to
southern Ca., with no problems to my Delorean & at a reasonable price.
I'm sure they ship to other destinations and Fred Parker is the manager.
They have offices in El Monte, Newark,Ca. & Phoenix, Az.
Falcon Auto Transport
38201 Cherry St.
Newark, Ca. 94560
510-494-8891
Jesse D. Sightler wrote:
>
> Has anyone had any experiences working with Car shippers?
> Jesse D. Sightler
> http://www.biddin.com/
>
> VIN #5220
>
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Subject: [DML] DeLorean Spotted in OC
Date: 17-Sep-99 14:57:17 -0500
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Hi All,
I've havent posted to this list for a while and I've switched e-mail
addresses I've kinda lost track of over 500 or so messages. I recently moved
to South Orange County CA from Miami and I finally saw a DeLorean on the
road it was at the Las Flores gas station on Antonio and Oso on early
thursday evening, it had the black stripe on the side of the car. My D is
back in Miami so I've been out of the DeLorean game for a while. Just
wanted to know if it was anyone on this list or if there's any other owners
in the Rancho Santa Margarita, Las Flores, etc. south OC area.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Weak battery
Date: 17-Sep-99 13:26:55 -0700
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It sounds like you may have something drawing current and you should
probably try to solve that problem first, (trouble shooting that should
be in the archives)
Note: Many older security systems are notorious for doing this.
I have an 82 corvette that will kill a good battery in 2-3 weeks and
turn a brand new battery into garbage
In about 1-2 months (lead acid batteries don't like being fully
discharged). If you hook an ordinary battery charger to the battery and
leave it on all the time, it will for lack of a better term cook your
battery over time.
The solution is a float charger that keeps the battery charged but
doesn't over charge it, Many are out there they cost between $10-$50 (I
paid about $15 for a cheap one) and it works great and I have never had
a problem since
I started using it about a year ago. It should also help prolong the
life of the battery. Based on my experience I would recommend a float
charger for any car or battery that does not get regular use.The
avantage of this over the battery switch is that you don't have to
reset your clock, it keeps info in the computers and should give the
battery a longer life over all.
Mike D.
vin 3113
NY Lic DLORIANN
PS still would like to here from Long Island Delorean owners out there!
mdinu8990-@aol.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=3128
> Whenever my car sits without being driven for approximately two weeks
and I
> go out to start it, it turns over to the point where it just gets
enough
> juice to start or it fails to start until I let it sit for a minute
or so.
> Once I drive it around, it get charged up enough to start with no
problem.
> Absent replacing the battery (which I may do anyway) and the other
obvious
> choice (drive it more often!), is there something that can be
continuously
> draining my battery? I seem to recall something on the list about
> disconnecting something because of a drain on the battery but can't
remember
> what. Thanks
>
> Mark D.
> 16728
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Subject: [DML] Re: Gas Mask
Date: 17-Sep-99 21:43:49 +0000
Or, you could just park it out in the sun for a few days and
let nature take its course. Then spray the interior
liberally with deoderant.
Richard
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Date: 17-Sep-99 17:01:11 -0500
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At 2:02 PM -0500 9/17/99, Gary V. wrote:
>
>Who cares? Why must we delve into this mans private life. I thought this
>forum was to exchange ideas & help others in the repair and restoration
>of our wonderful automobiles. Not to expound upon who is closest to JZD
>himself!
>Lets not let this group disintegrate into a "Inside Edition" style
>forum, leave that to a gossip group. I am sure that if & when news of a
>new car is eminate we will not be the only ones to know about it, info
>will be free flowing as to hype any impending ofering.
>
>I enjoy reading the help that all are giving & receiving with the
>exchange of information here, but don't bore us with the daily comings &
>goings of JZD.
>
>My 12 cents I'm sure others feel the same or will also disagree.
> Gary V.
> Delorean enthusiast
> and owner
$0.12 seems a bit much to me...the list originated for discussion about the
car, company and the man, and unless the new administration has changed
that, Ithink this information is appropriate. The moderators walk a very
fine line, and the one thing I learned from doing four years of moderation
of this list is that you can't please everybody - remember that you have a
delete key for things you don't want to read...
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Subject: [DML] Re: Gas Mask
Date: 17-Sep-99 17:03:51 -0500
In-reply-to: <19990917160714>.EFOL1503
Remove all the access covers from the luggage compartment, "critters" have
been found here in the are of the fuel tank/pump, brake master, and even up
behind the fuel fill access panel...
James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas
281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
http://www.usadmc.com
>
>----------
>> From: raddad@cmn.net
>>
>> Help! A critter has died in the bowels of my car. Now, I've checked
>> inside the car. I checked in the comparments behind the seat and underthe
>> package shelf. I've checked in the engine compartment. I've checked in
James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas
281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
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Subject: [DML] Re: DMC-80 pics in vault
Date: 17-Sep-99 17:09:56 -0500
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Hello Mike,
These look like the photos on my site. Bruce Benson contributed these
photos long ago when we discussed the DMC-80 on the DML. The photos are
also at http://www.delorean.org/tgraham/dmc80.htm. They're pretty large,
but worth a look.
If it was my website that you were thinking of: my site is still around...in
fact, cars.com just did a review of it.
Travis Graham
http://www.delorean.org/tgraham
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From: forklift-jihad@excite.com [mailto:forklift-jihad@excite.com]
A great site posted these pictures of an early brochure for the bus,
but unfortunately that page is gone now (I am fairly sure). There was
some discussion about this quite a while ago, and to the best of my
knowledge these pictures are actually composites of an existing
European bus with the DMC-80 logo. This is one of DeLorean's "side"
projects that never got very far, along with the DMC-24 and DMC-44, as
it was funded by the NIDA money meant for the DMC-12, and DeLorean was
kindly asked more than once to drop the project in order to streamline
expenses.
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Subject: [DML] Smelly suggestions
Date: 17-Sep-99 17:19:55 -0700
What an amazing collection of advice I'm receiving.
Some of it I'm really going to have to reasearch a bit further. Two of the
"DeLorean Service Center Experts" disagree as to whether there is any
hollow space in the front pontoons. Then, someone said that the critter
would dry up and quit smelling in a couple of days. Well, I suspect my
critter is bigger than a mouse and he/she has been smelling for two weeks
now and getting worse on hot days, of course.
Really going to see what I can find this weekend.
Meanwhile, I'll drive backwards, with doors up while seated on a pile of
pine tree air fresheners.
Stay tuned for more.
Dick (cough-cough-gag-cough) Ryan
VIN 16867
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Subject: [DML] Big suspension Q!
Date: 17-Sep-99 20:36:07 -0400
I'm having a SERIOUS problem with the car "wiggling" at highway speeds. It feels like both the front and back swing right and left as I go down the road. It's kind of a slow "floating" and "swaying" feeling. At speeds around 100+ it's do
I still have the original NC-60s with fairly good tread. This is more than an out-of-round tire problem. This is a big time suspension problem. Bushings? Shocks? Control arms?
I have driven cars with bad shocks before but never had the front and back sway right and left at highway speeds. I am prepared to do anything it takes to enhance its ride quality. Suggestions are requested. Thank you.
Chris
3876
GIGAWAT
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Subject: [DML] Re: Owners check list, not for the car, but you!
Date: 17-Sep-99 17:49:19 -0700
I just have to add my 2 cents.
"Mechanical marvel"??? GET REAL. The car is under powered, has typically poor British
electronics and wiring (except the Bosch FI), only adequate suspension, and some very poor
design (i.e. door locks, window regulators, rear trailing arms)... and being "privileged" by
owning one ?? get real again. The only thing regarding the car that makes you "privileged" is
that you could afford the $15-$18k you have paid for a really nice one. In other words, you
didn't have to wait in line to buy it.
On the other hand, you could have done worse. You could have bought a Bricklin. Bricklins,
while they have more power, have REALLY poor design and suspension although their wiring is
better and is mostly absent of Delorean era electronics. The acrylic body (no Erik, it is not
fiberglass) does resist dents and gouges quite well, but is very susceptible to stress cracks
and cannot be repaired or painted easily (nor can a Delorean). And as far as JZD being a
genius, well while he was at the top of his class, he did nothing more spectacular than Malcom
Bricklin.
And as far a "mechanical marvels" go, I am still amazed as to how well my 21 year old Sony TV
works.
The bottom line Erik, is that you should enjoy your car - you've obviously worked hard for it.
Just keep a little perspective.
Steve Brodsky 82 Delorean #10688 - 51,000 miles (original owner), 75 Bricklin #1509 - 687
miles (3rd owner)
delorean502@excite.com wrote:
> Well put Robert! I agree with you 110% on this one. Guys, we have
> something special. All of us have the love for the car, you showed that
> by being part of the list. but less than 8,000 people in this world of
> billions have the privaledge to OWN this mechanical marvel. When you
> go into your garage to see your Delorean (and talk to it if you are
> insane like me) open the doors and give a shot out to JZD. talk to you
> later
>
> erik geerdink
> proud owner of 4512
>
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Subject: [DML] Hard Starting D
Date: 17-Sep-99 18:04:57 -0700
Hello all
Now that my D is drivable I am becomming very familiar with the hard
starting problem. Not only do I have a problem starting the car when it
is hot, I also have problems starting it when it is cold. The entire
fuel system has been replaced, including the accumulator. Sometimes
when it wont start I give the car a little starting fluid down the
throttle body, and at times that wont even work. Then when it does
start it runs rough below 2500 RPM, it almost seems like there is a
problem with the coil? The plugs, wires, cap and rotor were replaced a
few months ago.
Any ideas would be appericated
Andrew
vin 4194
72 Buick Riviera
75 Bricklin 946
PS: Since this page is not only dedicated to the company and the car,
but also Mr Deloren himself. I would like to extend my personal
congradulations to a man who I have admired since the age of 8, on
becomming a grandfather.
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Subject: [DML] Re: UK Lighting
Date: 17-Sep-99 21:34:30 -0400
I was under the impresion that the only light conversion was for a fog lamp
and only if your car was produced after july 81.?
I changed nowt and sail through M.O.T. everytime
glad you got one though
Cheers from Scotland
2119
Neil
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Subject: [DML] THANK GOD !
Date: 17-Sep-99 19:02:01 -0700
IT HAS FINALY HAPPENED, I'M THE PROUD ONER OF M FIRST DELOREAN AND IT WAS NOTHING SHORT OF A MIRACLE FROM THE LORD AND SAVIOUR. I COULD NOT SHARE SUCH NEWS WITH OUT GIVING HIM CREDIT FIRST.. I LEFT THIS MORNING EARLY, TO GO LOOK AT A D THA
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Subject: [DML] Re: RHD Conversion?
Date: 17-Sep-99 20:29:14 -0600
Hi John,
Contact Dave Howarth on the DMC uk page:-
http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk/
He has 2 left-hookers and 2 right's. The first hooker was one owned by JZD
before taken off him. It has less than 1200 minies on it. One of the right
handers was owned by David Taylor from Duran Duran.
Dave usually has a list on the go of cars in the UK for sale, if there are
Right's for sale he will know.
Chris
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Hi everybody,
A friend of mine wants to buy a DeLorean, but as he lives in England he
would like to convert it to right hand drive. If anyone has any info on how
much this would cost, how big a job it is, or what shops (either in America
or England) would have the expertise to do this job, I'd love to hear from
you! Or, if there are any right hand drive models availible, please mail me
back.
Thank you!
John Dore, Ireland.
http://homepage.tinet.ie/~johndore
PS For those who of you who were wondering, I have shipped all of the orders
for the DMC keychain set I am selling on my website. Sorry for the delay...
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Subject: [DML] Fuel line mist & $0.00 part question - please look!
Date: 17-Sep-99 21:38:23 -0500
I was under the car tonight and noticed gas misting out small pinhole perferations in the metal tube that connects to the fuel filter (the holes are about 3" in front of the fuel filter).
When I went to the DMC-Houston site - the part number doesn't have a price (Part #106989)....does this mean they don't stock it? or is it a generic item I can pick up at an automotive store.
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misting out small pinhole perferations in the metal tube that connects to the
fuel filter (the holes are about 3" in front of the fuel
filter). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>When I went to the DMC-Houston site - the part
number doesn't have a price (Part #106989)....does this mean they don't stock
it? or is it a generic item I can pick up at an automotive store.
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><A
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Subject: [DML] NEW DELOREAN WON'T HAVE GULLWING DOORS
Date: 17-Sep-99 19:44:49 -0700
I heard the new Delorean is not going to have gullwind doors.. IS THIS
TRUE!!??
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Subject: [DML] Re: car won't start when hot
Date: 17-Sep-99 22:51:30 -0400
Replace your fuel accumulator Parts Manual 2 / 1 / 0 Fig. 39 part # 100519
available from all DeLorean parts suppliers for under $150.00. Suggested
Warranty repair time Operation No. 21005. Total R/R time: 50 minutes.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: Caroline Bolland <Caroline.Bolland@umusic.com>
> I have a problem. My car won't start when it's hot.
>
> It loses pressure (doesn't hold 3 bar pressure for
> half a hour). Apparently the fuel evaporates in the
> line and the car won't start until engine has cooled
> sufficiently for fuel to travel through.
>
> Have changed one way valve in fuel pump, cleaned
> and checked metering head, checked all injectors
> and seals. Have changed oxygen sensors.
>
> The only thing I haven't checked is a valve at the
> back of the engine (looking at the engine, there's a
> valve on the engine wall at the rear left - I don't
> know what this is and it's the only thing I haven't
> checked). Could this be the problem?
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Darrin Jacobs
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Date: 17-Sep-99 20:04:14 -0700
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Darrin;
The valve in the rear compartment that you see is the fuel
filter.
The Hot start problem is very common with Deloreans. The fix
for that is to replace the fuel accumlator. It's not that hard a
job,and the parts can be ordered from any of the Delorean parts guys. I
ordered mine from Jerry Rine in Newark,Ohio ( 1-740-366-5587) and had
it in two days. This valve can be accessed thru a small opening under
the car which is between the seats. Take your time and keep a can handy
to catch a small amount of gas when you pull the rubber line off.
Use caution and make sure all the lines are tight and leak free
when your done.
Good Luck
Richard J.Myosky
Vin.# 4419
> The only thing I haven't checked is a valve at the
> back of the engine (looking at the engine, there's a
> valve on the engine wall at the rear left -
>
> Darrin Jacobs
>
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Gas Mask
Date: 17-Sep-99 23:17:57 -0400
It won't stink forever. It'll just seem that way. Try being patient
awhile... My son says you should send in a mongoose! :) Hey, if you're
like a lot of D owners, it will have turned to dust before you get in it
again :) - Wayne
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Subject: [DML] Re: FW: Door Latches
Date: 17-Sep-99 23:23:42 -0400
Put some grease on the top of the pin and close the door. Open the door
and look where the grease was, can you see where the latch hit the pin?
The latch should be hitting the center of the pin. One of the pins in my
car had to be shimmed out 0.200", the latch wasn't even hitting the pin.
Dave Sontos
VIN 02573
Gus Schlachter wrote:
> The problem looks like the rear latch, since it will be
> halfway-latched when the front latch is completely closed. I have
> tried adjusting the striker pin as far out/up as it will go with no
> success. The driver's door closes perfectly and easily.
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Put some grease on the top of the pin and close the door. Open the door
and look where the grease was, can you see where the latch hit the pin?
The latch should be hitting the center of the pin. One of the pins in my
car had to be shimmed out 0.200", the latch wasn't even hitting the pin.
<p>Dave Sontos
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problem looks like the rear latch, since it will be halfway-latched when
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Subject: [DML] Re: Happy fun fuel filter
Date: 17-Sep-99 23:26:04 -0400
Sounds like you bought the wrong kind of filter. I had the same problem when I tried to use a
cross reference filter. Buy your fuel filters from a DeLorean dealer.
Dave Sontos
VIN 02573
Luke.Sandel@cmich.edu wrote:
> Bottom fitting, piece of cake. Banjo fitting at top... hrmph... After
> using pleanty of brute force and expletives, I have reduced a gyser to
> a very slow leak.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Air conditioning Charge
Date: 17-Sep-99 23:53:22 -0400
As many have stated (in the back log) in the every so often A/C refrigerant
debate, "don't change from R-12 because R-134 is less efficient and will not
work as well." Well, I can speak from experience as my DeLorean has been
converted to R-134. The system works very well. I have to even turn the
system down as it becomes too cold at times.
Both R-12 and R-134 are viable products. If the system is working properly,
why bother change. However, if the owner wishes to change the system to
R-134, after the initial cost (about $150 for me), you shouldn't have any
other concerns.
Many of the comparisons of how well the 134 works have been made based on
experiences on other car types. The DeLorean cockpit is very small and
therefore has a smaller volume to cool than most other car types. Maybe in
vehicles that have a large volume to cool, the efficiency of the 134 would
be an important issue, but in the DeLorean (at least mine), the temp. is as
cool as you want it to be.
You know what everybody says about opinions...
Sean Howley
VIN#2345
> It is possible to convert the DeLorean system (which is an off the shelf
GM air conditioner) to R134, but you will wind up with a higher failure
rate of components (due to the high pressure) and probably a less
effective air conditioner.>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Autocross in St. Louis the weekend of the Expo
Date: 17-Sep-99 23:58:08 -0400
Mark,
I've been autocrossing for a couple years now but I've never raced the
DeLorean. (I have an open-wheel formula car I use for the autocrosses).
I will tell you this much, if you don't get your own class, expect to be
beat horrendously by the 'vettes. For some reason, the SCCA classes the
DeLorean in a street-prepared class only. So not only will you be racing
against 'vettes, you'll be racing against modified 'vettes. I will say one
thing...if you intend to run your car, make sure your oil is topped up. My
DeLorean used to have an oil leak and I remember a few times when taking
turns at far less than autocross speed, the oil pressure would drop. NOT
a good thing to have happen!
I guess it's kinda gratifying to see the DeLorean classed with all the
Corvettes, Panteras and Ferraris though. The DeLorean is in B Street
Prepared (BSP). I've searched various SCCA results pages and I've never
been able to find a DeLorean listed.
Good luck with the autocross and post a link to the results!
--Rob Hook
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Subject: [DML] Door removal and broken windows
Date: 18-Sep-99 0:01:30 -0400
Someone mentioned a D's rear window breaking when the door was removed- is
this a common problem? I don't need to remove any doors but wondered if the
occasion ever arises, is it something to be wary of?
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Date: 18-Sep-99 0:09:09 -0400
My wife's doctor is into autocrossing, and keeps saying I should bring the
D. I've wondered if this is hard on the trailing arm bolts? I worry about
them anyway.
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From: magriese@us.ibm.com <magriese@us.ibm.com>
To: dmcnews@egroups.com <dmcnews@egroups.com>
Date: Friday, September 17, 1999 6:06 PM
Subject: [DML] Re: Autocross in St. Louis the weekend of the Expo
>I recommend this to EVERYONE! Autocrossing is a blast and is
>an inexpensive, SAFE way to learn about the handling and performance
>characteristics of any car. Spending one afternoon at an
>autocross course will teach you more about understeer,
>oversteer, turn-in, balance, braking, acceleration and general
>car control than all of the books on driving technique could
>ever teach you.
>
>Mike Griese
>Storage Software Development Manager
>IBM Storage Systems Division
>Rochester, MN 55901
>Internet: magriese@us.ibm.com
>voice: (507)253-1853
>fax: (507)253-2880
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Subject: [DML] Re: Clearing a few things up...or not!
Date: 18-Sep-99 1:51:49 -0400
In a message dated 9/17/99 8:05:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, piason@home.com
writes:
<< Who cares? Why must we delve into this mans private life. I thought this
forum was to exchange ideas & help others in the repair and restoration
of our wonderful automobiles. Not to expound upon who is closest to JZD
himself!
Lets not let this group disintegrate into a "Inside Edition" style
forum, leave that to a gossip group. I am sure that if & when news of a
new car is eminate we will not be the only ones to know about it, info
will be free flowing as to hype any impending ofering.
I enjoy reading the help that all are giving & receiving with the
exchange of information here, but don't bore us with the daily comings &
goings of JZD.
My 12 cents I'm sure others feel the same or will also disagree.
Gary V.
Delorean enthusiast
and owner
>>
I fail to see how an occasional post perhaps one or two a month which refer
to JZD himself is considered "Daily comings and goings" To myself JZD is as
much a part of the DeLorean mystique as is the car itself. If someone asks a
question about the man especially when he is supposed to be working on a new
DeLorean, I believe the topic is more than acceptable. This list is far
from being centered around JZD's personal life. The list is 90% technical
and the other 10% relates to everything from Back To The Future posts to
posts about JZD. I believe that none of the questions I have seen by list
members are derogatory. Everyone is entitled to thier opinon. If you dont
want to read a post then move on to the next. The last time I checked we had
a very competent moderating team. Let them do their job deciding which posts
are acceptable. If you have a problem address it to them or simply click
your mouse and move on to the next post.
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Subject: [DML] Re: FW: Door Latches
Date: 18-Sep-99 7:31:57 +0000
Dear Gus,
I had a similar proble with my D. From the factory the rear striker
would not fully engage the door lock. My guess is that it was not set
in the fiberglass correctly. I did drill the striker plate 1/4" larger
to move the bolt. It solved the problem.
I investigate realigning the sheet metal but their did not appear to be
sufficient adjustment in those holes to make everything fit.
Bob Brandys
97 DeLorean with the Time Machine Option.
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Date: 18-Sep-99 7:35:52 +0000
I had a similar problem with a D from a junkyard. It had been there for
7 years with 7 rats nests in it. Those creaters had chewed hole to get
everywhere in the car.
Most of the hole you describe had nests in them and had to be be
thoroughtly cleaned.
The problem was one have gotten into the heater/AC box. I had to remove
the complete unit from the car, clean and seal it to get rid of the
odor.
"Kills" is a product intended for this purpose.
Bob
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Subject: [DML] Re: SEDOC CRUISE-IN UP-DATE.
Date: 18-Sep-99 0:58:07 -0700
Joe,
For those of us "most" that cannot attend, would it be possible to video
tape these lectures. I'm sure there are many people such as myself who
would gladly pay for such a tape. Maybe someone attending could tape the
sessions and make the tapes available to the rest of the group.
Just a thought.
Mike Atkinson
vin 16232
mikeatk@concentric.net
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> Did you know that history is about to be made in Gainesville Georgia next
> weekend. That's right; yours truly DMC Joe, Rob Grady, and Stephen Wynne
> will all be together an the same room spreading our wealth of knowledge to
> all the DeLorean owners who will be attending this great event. Yes, most
> hotels in the immediate area are booked but there are plenty of rooms
> available a short drive away. There is still time to register, don't miss
> this history making event! Go to
> <http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/3755/cruisebak.html> for all the
> exciting details.
>
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Subject: [DML] Shipping
Date: 18-Sep-99 6:47:05 -0400
Hello
I've had quite a few enquiries as to how I shipped my car to the UK.
The company I used is called Californian Connection.
If anyone wants further details please feel free to E-mail me privately
Nigel Beatson
VIN 2677
p.s. I have no connection to this company, other than being a very satisfied
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Subject: [DML] Spare Keys
Date: 18-Sep-99 8:24:14 -0400
Dear DML'ers,
I feel duty bound to dispell a myth that was posted a couple of days ago.
Someone had mentioned that Wal-Mart was no place to have keys made, however,
quite the contrary!
Wal-Mart is now using the Axxess+ system, a state of the art system, which
cuts both sides at the same time with almost no miscuts. The DeLorean uses
blank number 51. There may be a few older stores out there still using the
old "line 'em up, and cut 'em" method, but most of the stores have already
converted. Thought you should all know the facts!
Jeff
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Subject: [DML] Re: 350 in a D?
Date: 18-Sep-99 9:01:06 -0400
> "Hart, Paul" wrote:
>
> I am a GM fan. Yet I would have to say that even though all this might be
> possible, you wouldn't go too far on a tank of gas.
> I am also the 2nd owner of a 1974 Stingray show-car (67,000+ miles) that
> shares daily driver duty with my 81 D (5,011 miles). The Vette only gets
> 10.13 mpg with the L82 engine and Quad4, while the D is providing 19.37
> during my 3 weeks of ownership.
The Cadillac Northstar is essentially identical dimensionally to the 350
except for bore and stroke. I'm told the Northstar fits nicely in the
D and factory fresh is capable of producing in excess of 300 HP. Quite a
bit more power than any stock '74 Vette, including the the big block 454.
It is also capable of delivering in excess of 20 MPG.
Over the years there have been literally dozens of incarnations of the 350.
Anywhere from an anemic 120 HP version in the mid to late 70's to over
500 HP. As an aside, I have a stock 1984 Vette 350 that averages 25-26 MPG
on the highway. Considerably better than my D gets. I also have a non-stock
'74 Vette with a 350-350 engine (from 1970) that get about 15 MPG. So it isn't
necessarily an accurate statement to say you wouldn't go far on a tank of gas
with a 350 in your D!
Regards,
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
Midlothian, VA
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Subject: [DML] Re: Autocross in St. Louis the weekend of the Expo
Date: 18-Sep-99 10:56:51 -0500
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You can run the DeLorean in a Stock class, but it's due to the "catchall"
that throws it into Super Stock, so it's still against the 'Vettes and the
late turbo RX-7's.
I've been autocrossing for a number of years, but just got the DeLorean
this year. We've run it once. It did better than I would have thought, but
still got it's rear kicked pretty good. Of course, we were running it in
TOTALLY stock conditions on the Yokohama street tires. Plus I started the
tire pressures off a little on the high side so it was really squirley. My
wife drives also, and she spun it completely around when she got the car
over-ocillating in a slalom!
My wife and I have decided that we aren't going to run it often, but it IS
fun to take it out occasionally. We're hoping to get enough DeLoreans out
on the 10th that they'll give us our own class so that nobody has to worry
about the other cars.
Mark N
VIN 6820
At 11:58 PM 9/17/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Mark,
>
>I've been autocrossing for a couple years now but I've never raced the
>DeLorean. (I have an open-wheel formula car I use for the autocrosses).
> I will tell you this much, if you don't get your own class, expect to be
>beat horrendously by the 'vettes. For some reason, the SCCA classes the
>DeLorean in a street-prepared class only. So not only will you be racing
>against 'vettes, you'll be racing against modified 'vettes. I will say one
>thing...if you intend to run your car, make sure your oil is topped up. My
>DeLorean used to have an oil leak and I remember a few times when taking
>turns at far less than autocross speed, the oil pressure would drop. NOT
> a good thing to have happen!
>
>I guess it's kinda gratifying to see the DeLorean classed with all the
>Corvettes, Panteras and Ferraris though. The DeLorean is in B Street
>Prepared (BSP). I've searched various SCCA results pages and I've never
>been able to find a DeLorean listed.
>
>Good luck with the autocross and post a link to the results!
>
>--Rob Hook
>
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Date: 18-Sep-99 11:09:37 -0500
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Personnally I wouldn't worry about it if the car is good mechanical
condition. Autocrossing WILL put more stress on the car than normal
driving, but not all that much more.
If you would decide to do this regularly and switch to a super soft racing
tire that's wider than the stock tires, then I would start to worry. Race
rubber can stress components beyond the original design parameters. Even
then I wouldn't worry too much about it.
Go out and give it a try! It's extremely doubtful you would hurt the car if
it's been maintained well and you run on the street tires for just one or
two events. If you find you like doing it, THEN you can decide if you want
to run the D, or use another car. I personally run a Ford Probe GT in
G-Stock, and I'm trading that in for a Miata this winter and will be
running B-Stock next year. This isn't due to the reliability of the
DeLorean. I think I could work with that. It's just due to the fact that
the DeLorean is mis-classed (IMHO) and would never be competive running
against the Corvettes, RX-7 Twin Turbos, and the Lotuses.
Just MHO of course :)
Mark N
VIN 6820
At 12:09 AM 9/18/99 -0400, you wrote:
>My wife's doctor is into autocrossing, and keeps saying I should bring the
>D. I've wondered if this is hard on the trailing arm bolts? I worry about
>them anyway.
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Hi,
I'm the one who wrote the earlier post. I stand by my recomendation to use
a good locksmith instead of Wal-Mart. YMMV of course, but I had a lousy
experience TWICE with them, and they had the new cutting system. This was
just earlier this year and I had noticed the new machine and asked about
it. They extolled the virtues of it and told me how well it worked.
Well I went back the following Saturday. I got 8 keys cut. Two each for a
house door, a garage door, and two cars. Out of the 8 keys, only 4 worked
the first time. I have no idea how he managed to mess up two of these. When
comparing the keys it looks as though he did not seat the blank deeply
enough into the machine. On the other two keys, he had chosen the wrong
blanks. They were very similar, but the groove pattern was different enough
that they wouldn't even insert into the lock. No matter how accurate the
cutting machine is, it still has to have someone who can use it properly!!
This particular operator was High School aged, and was busy talking to one
of the other employees.
Second time I had two more house keys cut for a different house, at a
different Wal-Mart a few weeks later. Wrong blanks again. Once again a
younger, probably inexperienced person doing it.
I've had numerous keys cut over the years at locksmiths. So far I've never
had one that didn't work. I know they make mistakes too, but so far they've
done better. They are usually MUCH more experienced with keys and locks and
can do a far better job of matching up keys.
Mark N
VIN 6820
At 08:24 AM 9/18/99 EDT, you wrote:
>Dear DML'ers,
>
>I feel duty bound to dispell a myth that was posted a couple of days ago.
>Someone had mentioned that Wal-Mart was no place to have keys made, however,
>quite the contrary!
>
>Wal-Mart is now using the Axxess+ system, a state of the art system, which
>cuts both sides at the same time with almost no miscuts. The DeLorean uses
>blank number 51. There may be a few older stores out there still using the
>old "line 'em up, and cut 'em" method, but most of the stores have already
>converted. Thought you should all know the facts!
>
>Jeff
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Subject: [DML] Re: Door removal and broken windows
Date: 18-Sep-99 10:44:00 -0700
The hazard lies in not holding the torsion bar in check when releasing the 2
retaining bolts. The bracket holding the back end of the bar then rotates &
strikes the rear window. Solution- use cheater bar to SLOWLY release torsion
bar & slide retaining bracket off. This situation caused me some blood loss
& quite a bit of irritation. Proceed SLOWLY & CAREFULLY using plenty of
leverage on the bar. AND don't forget to have the door propped open by
something sturdy. Drive Stainless Robert VIN 6924
>From: "yugoman" <mdrig@email.msn.com>
>Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com
>To: <dmcnews@egroups.com>
>Subject: [DML] Door removal and broken windows
>Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 00:01:30 -0400
>
>Someone mentioned a D's rear window breaking when the door was removed- is
>this a common problem? I don't need to remove any doors but wondered if the
>occasion ever arises, is it something to be wary of?
>
>
>
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From: SCOTTMUE@SMTP (Scott Mueller) {scottmueller@zebra.net}
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Subject: [DML] Re: Big suspension Q!
Date: 18-Sep-99 13:01:30 -0500
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Coplen <Chris.Coplen@ix.netcom.com>
I'm having a SERIOUS problem with the car "wiggling" at highway speeds. It
feels like both the front and back swing right and left as I go down the
road. It's kind of a slow "floating" and "swaying" feeling. At speeds
around 100+ it's downright FRIGHTENING how badly it sways. You have to
REALLY hold on to the wheel to keep the car going straight. Sometimes it
requires counter steer, this is how bad it is.
I still have the original NC-60s with fairly good tread. This is more than
an out-of-round tire problem. This is a big time suspension problem.
Bushings? Shocks? Control arms?
Chris,
When I first started driving my DeLorean again in 1994, it was very
unstable. I had the original NCT's which had flat spots and the original
shocks.
I replaced the shocks and the car became much more stable. I also replaced
the trailing arm bolts, the originals were bent. A couple of years later, I
replaced the tires with new Yokohama's. The car now handles like it is on
rails.
Scott
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Subject: [DML] Re: SEDOC CRUISE-IN UP-DATE.
Date: 18-Sep-99 14:06:16 -0400
Very good suggestion, I will check in to the possibility today.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: Mike Atkinson <mikeatk@concentric.net>
> Joe,
>
> For those of us "most" that cannot attend, would it be possible to video
> tape these lectures. I'm sure there are many people such as myself who
> would gladly pay for such a tape. Maybe someone attending could tape the
> sessions and make the tapes available to the rest of the group.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Mike Atkinson
> vin 16232
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Subject: [DML] Re: Owners check list, not for the car, but you!
Date: 18-Sep-99 14:13:26 -0400
From someone who owns both your comments surely have some weight and should
come from experience. I as a Delorean owner don't necessarily disagree. I
can't comment on Bricklins. My question is: why do you own two cars that in
your opinion are junk when you could be driving a nice Honda Accord (Sony) ?
Ralph VIN 1606
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Subject: [DML] Re: Hard Starting D
Date: 18-Sep-99 14:27:19 -0400
Forget about the coil, it's one of those components than never go bad in a
DeLorean. Your hard starting is probably due to a problem in either the
cold start circuit, fuel enrichment circuit, or it may need a CO mixture
adjustment.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: ajl521@aol.com
>
> Hello all
> Now that my D is drivable I am becomming very familiar with the hard
> starting problem. Not only do I have a problem starting the car when it
> is hot, I also have problems starting it when it is cold. The entire
> fuel system has been replaced, including the accumulator. Sometimes
> when it wont start I give the car a little starting fluid down the
> throttle body, and at times that wont even work. Then when it does
> start it runs rough below 2500 RPM, it almost seems like there is a
> problem with the coil? The plugs, wires, cap and rotor were replaced a
> few months ago.
>
> Any ideas would be appericated
>
> Andrew
> vin 4194
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From: LARRY001@SMTP (Larry Cravalho) {larry001@flash.net}
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Subject: [DML] Vin numbers
Date: 18-Sep-99 11:30:44 -0700
Although I have owned my D since 1986, this will be the first time I
have corresponded to the group. My serial number or VIN #is
SCEDT26T7DD016111. When D owners write back and forth they often sign
off with their VIN #, generally 4 or 5 digits. I'm guessing then that my
VIN or production number is 16111. The D is a 1983 - How do you
determine when the car was produced and more importantly what up-grades
should I perform to the D. Thanks
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Subject: [DML] DANGER; DO NOT DRIVE THE CAR !
Date: 18-Sep-99 14:33:11 -0400
DANGER; DO NOT DRIVE THE CAR !
Your right, this could be serious. The very first item to check are the
trailing arm bolts and bushing fasteners. If this is the culprit you could
loose all steering control while the car is at high speed. If those items
are O.K. check all the components at the front suspension. Lastly, although
this will not be the cause of your problem, get rid of those NCT's
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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From: Chris Coplen <Chris.Coplen@ix.netcom.com>
I'm having a SERIOUS problem with the car "wiggling" at highway speeds. It
feels like both the front and back swing right and left as I go down the
road. It's kind of a slow "floating" and "swaying" feeling. At speeds
around 100+ it's downright FRIGHTENING how badly it sways. You have to
REALLY hold on to the wheel to keep the car going straight. Sometimes it
requires counter steer, this is how bad it is.
I still have the original NC-60s with fairly good tread. This is more than
an out-of-round tire problem. This is a big time suspension problem.
Bushings? Shocks? Control arms?
I have driven cars with bad shocks before but never had the front and back
sway right and left at highway speeds. I am prepared to do anything it
takes to enhance its ride quality. Suggestions are requested. Thank you.
Chris
3876
GIGAWAT
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Subject: [DML] Re: Autocross in St. Louis the weekend of the Expo
Date: 18-Sep-99 15:44:01 -0400
In-reply-to: <009501BF018B8F83>6c60$9f530a3f
On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, yugoman wrote:
> My wife's doctor is into autocrossing, and keeps saying I should bring
> the D. I've wondered if this is hard on the trailing arm bolts? I
> worry about them anyway.
If you're worried about them jack up the rear of the car and have a look.
Autocrossing is not hard on the car assuming that it is mechanically sound
to begin with. Check your brakes, suspension, and your battery. If your
battery isn't *tight* in the battery compartment you won't pass tech.
People autocross everything from purpose built open wheel racers to (and I
kid you not) a 1970 Ford Fairmont (I saw that at the last autocross I went
to). This is the sort of thing that Lotus' racing suspension was made
for. And if you ever got the feeling driving your D that it seemed to
have no limits to its handling - well, you'll get to find them. It's fun.
Autocrossers are some of the friendliest and most helpful people you'll
meet. They will show you the rules, how to inflate your tires properly,
and will probably give you a ride so you can see what's up. You get to
see all sorts of interesting vehicles - that's almost worth the trip in
itself.
Although the DeLorean is not very competitive (it is classed in Super
Stock and really belongs in C Stock with the other small displacement
sports cars) you can probably find an autocross in your area almost every
weekend. Just show up. :}
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From: DMC1440@SMTP (Aldo Buono) {dmc1440@earthlink.net}
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Subject: [DML] FM Signal Amplifier
Date: 18-Sep-99 16:29:36 -0400
Purchased an Automotive FM Signal Amplifier from Radio Shack.
Installed it. It definitely improves the reception.
--
Aldo Buono, President, De Lorean Midatlantic, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,
dmc1440@earthlink.net/ VIN 1440 since 1984
Visit: http://clubs.hemmings.com/deloreanmidatlantic/
For all the exciting details of Eastern Regional Run 10,
Visit: http://w3.one.net/~dmc1219/DMC2000/
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Subject: [DML] new York Delorean owners
Date: 18-Sep-99 23:35:42 +0000
Hello,
I have just subscribed to this list. I am a long time Delorean enthsiast.
Though I'm only 19 and don't own one, I am definitly going to purchse a D
when i get out of college and get a steady job. Back to the Future is what
turned me onto it and everything about the rise and fall of the company, the
amazing design and following have drawn my interest so much to make me love
this car.
I am in New York and have not seen any D clubs or organizations around
here. I am in the NYC, Long Island, Westchester area and would love to talk
to people around me about the D and even maybe touch one since I've only
seen them in the passing. Just to drive one would be amazing. Hope to
learn as much as I can from you guys and meet people near me to drool over
their D's.
Take care.
Aaron C.
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Subject: [DML] New
Date: 18-Sep-99 19:48:04 -0400
Hi everyone, I justed joined the group not to long ago. I am looking to buy a
DMC but I don't know what to look for or the difference in DMC-12 and others.
I need all the assistance i can get thanks
Josh
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