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Subject: [DML] Re: Clearcoat?
Date: 1-Sep-99 8:20:26 +0000
The 97 DeLorean with the Time Machine Option is clearcoated and looks
excellent. The stainless is a little darker in color much closer to the
facia color. An interesting coincidence?
When I show the 97 DeLorean next to the stock DeLorean most people
prefer the clear coat. They say it looks shiney like new cars do.
Dr. Bob
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Subject: [DML] Engine trouble
Date: 1-Sep-99 2:42:06 -0700
Hi,
I own a '81 DeLorean and I'm having some recent problems with the
performance of the engine.
When I cold-start the engine, it starts in one go, but then I have to
let it run for about a minute or two to let it become stable. When I
start driving with it, the engine has full performance and really kicks
ass. But when the engine has been running for about 10 minutes or so,
there is a dramatic drop in power; suddenly the engine won't do more
than 4000 RPM; and then it gets worse by the minute. Last week I had to
drive home (14 Km) with a maximum of 1800 RPM (Which requires serious
driving skills imho).
I think it has something to do with the engine heating up and the
fuel/air mixture or something with the injection system..
The strange thing is my Dad drove it for about 100 Km on the highway
without any problems whatsoever.
As far as I know it doesn't have any modifications like a turbo or
such.
Any suggestions?
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Subject: [DML] Re: DMC Size
Date: 1-Sep-99 3:00:54 -0700
In-reply-to: <19990830233139>.RCCU18791
Thank you guys, but we're not having a size problem.. (or is my english
bad?)
rob.van.der.vee-@twinsoft.nl wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=2577
> Rob,
> Be sure the seat is pushed to its rear most position and the seat
back is
> adjusted so that it rests against the edge of the parcel shelf.
>
> DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
>
> ----------
> > From: rob.van.der.veer@twinsoft.nl
> > To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> > Subject: [DML] Re: DMC Size
> > Date: Monday, August 30, 1999 4:18 AM
> >
> > rob.van.der.vee-@twinsoft.nl wrote:
> >
> > I don't know how muich 6'3" is, but I am 1m88 and I'm sitting
> > comfortably in my D. My dad's about 1m95 and even he doesn't have a
> > problem with it..
> >
> > Yours,
> >
> > Rob.
> >
> >
> > original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=2440
> > > I am looking at purchasing a D. However I seem to notice that most
> > sports
> > > cars are made for people 4'5" and under. I was wondering if
someone
> > who is
> > > 6'3" could fit comfortably in a D.
> > >
> > > Thank you for your time.
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________________________
> > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
> >
> >
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Subject: [DML] Re: overheating constantly--help
Date: 1-Sep-99 12:15:18 +0000
Kristen,
I had the same problem with mine, living in the Sacramento Valley I thought
it was the extreme heat but it turned out to be air in the cooling system.
After bleeding the system it was fine. Don Steger at Delorean Motor Center
installed a self bleeding by-pass on my system so it stays continually bled.
-SweatyEddy
> Kristen Bettcher wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys,
> > My boyfirend's D has been overheating off and on all summer long. We've
been assuming that this is due to the unusually hot weather we've been
having, but it did it again last night and it was really cool out. It took a
long time for the temp to come back down and he still had to coast half way
home. Also, he's noticed that the oil light has been going on when it's
really hot out, but that also happened last night.
> > Any suggestions? (I think I'd be his hero if I came home with the answer
to his problems)
> > Thanks a lot.
> > --krit
> > BTW, although I don't post very often, I really enjoy being a part of
this list. Keep up the great job!
>
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Subject: [DML] overheating constantly--help
Date: 1-Sep-99 9:12:14 -0400
Hi guys,
My boyfirend's D has been overheating off and on all summer long. We've been assuming that this is due to the unusually hot weather we've been having, but it did it again last night and it was really cool out. It took a long time for the te
Any suggestions? (I think I'd be his hero if I came home with the answer to his problems)
Thanks a lot.
--krit
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Subject: [DML] Re: Antenna Technology Idea
Date: 1-Sep-99 7:48:08 -0700
In-reply-to: <37CBDAF7>.A149435C
mdeluc-@comtechpst.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=2591
If you can beat them join themàthe antenna thread must be the longest
thread ever so I might as well add my 2 cents (I use to test antennas
for a living). The physics of antennas and wave propagation can get
very complex and technical thus I will try to keep this as simple as
possible. The problem with built in antennas (like in a windshield) is
that they tend to be more directive, which basically means that it may
receive a radio station very well if it is in front or behind you but
from side to side the reception will be seriously degraded thus when
you make a turn you lose the station and may even get a new station
that is now in the new reception path. A Dipole antenna or the common
whip or vertical metal antenna tends to have an Omni directional
reception pattern that receives (in theory) virtually the same in all
directions.
Note: Just changing where the antenna is placed on the car effects the
reception pattern of this simple antenna, it typically would
need to be
placed on the top center of the car to have the most uniform Omni
patter in most cases (not an attractive option in my book).
The newer radio reception technology is not with the antennas but with
the receivers using Multiple antennas and selecting the antenna that is
doing the best job of receiving the desired radio station. All of this
applies more to FM reception then AM.
A relatively cheap and easy solution compared to replacing your radio
and adding antennas to The car could be ( I have never used one in a
car) a small FM antenna amplifier. The Antenna plugs directly into the
amplifier and the amplifiers out put plugs into the radio.
This makes the antenna more sensitive to weaker stations and helps
improve reception.
Mike D.
Vin3113
NY lic. DLORIANN
> DMC Joe wrote:
>
> > . . . Radio sensitive technology has improved drastically since
> > the late 70's when the factory installed units were designed. [SNIP]
>
> > I would like to see if today's auto radio technology coupled
> > with the windshield antenna would make for satisfactory reception.
>
> Next chance you get take a look at one of the GM "Dustbuster"
minivans (Lumina APV /
> Silhouette / TranSport). You will not see any radio antenna at all.
These minivans achieved
> their smooth, futuristic look thanks to technology of the early 90s,
which allowed the antenna
> to be built inside the rear part of the roof (which I believe is
plastic).
>
> I own both a TranSport with an in-roof antenna and a DeLorean with an
in-windshield antenna,
> and I can attest to the fact that the TranSport gets *much* better
radio reception than the
> DeLorean, especially on AM. Good as it is, the TranSport's radio
reception is still not quite
> as clear as a car with a whip antenna.
>
> I have often wondered if this same technology could be used to build
an antenna inside or
> under the rear sunshade louvers of a DeLorean. That would achieve
both the look Guigaro
> intended and the radio performance owners expect.
>
> Do any electrical engineers out there feel up to the challenge?
>
> - Mike Substelny
>
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Subject: [DML] Antenna Placement
Date: 1-Sep-99 7:59:39 -0700
To get the best reception without the whip antenna, would it be
possible to wire the the radio to the doors (or maybe other body
panels) for reception? There you get both vertical and horizontal. But
on the down side, could this also end up "frying" your radio since the
car is negative ground?
-Robert
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Subject: [DML] Re: No Power/Low Voltage
Date: 1-Sep-99 12:24:59 -0400
Jim, DMC Joe:
Thanks for your help concerning my low voltage problem. I had a local mechanic take a look into it and sure enough it was the alternator. I had a new one installed and it seems like it is fixed. During normal operating conditions (with a
Next question....sometimes when the ventilation system is in the off position and the fan is in the off position it sounds like it is still trying to blow air but nothing is coming out of the vents. In addition to this, sometimes when I pu
I really appreciate all of the help that is provided by this group. You point me in the right direction and the car gets fixed. I am learning every day and love my car (which I have only had since June) even more.
Rich
VIN #1460
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim [mailto:starbuck@gate.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 1999 8:18 AM
To: dmcnews@egroups.com
Subject: [DML] Re: No Power/Low Voltage
I'm having low voltage problems too. . I'll have 13Volt and when about to shift from 2nd in
to 3rd the voltage drops to 10 volts and then starts to go back up.
I'm in the process of making sure all the ground are good. And I wonder if the belt is loose
and slipping but it feels tight.
Jim
DMC Joe wrote:
> Rich,
> The ignition ECU (electronic control unit) requires at least 9 volts to
> operate at specs. Voltages at 10 volts or lower will cause erratic
> operation. Your battery has a static output of 12 volts. With no output
> from the alternator it doesn't take long for the system voltage to drop
> below 10 volts.
>
> DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
>
> ----------
> > From: RichieKula@aol.com
> > To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> > Subject: [DML] No Power/Low Voltage
> > Date: Saturday, August 28, 1999 10:54 AM
> >
> > Last night while driving home my D lost power and I noticed that the
> Voltage
> > meter was reading around 9 volts. I pulled over and shut it off. Then I
>
> > couldn't get it started again. I had it towed to a local shop.
> >
> > It sounds like the alternator except that I don't understand why there
> was no
> > acceleration? It is a 5-speed. Have any of you experienced this in
> their D
> > before?
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> >
> > Rich
> > VIN #1460
>
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Subject: [DML] Dead Threads
Date: 1-Sep-99 13:12:21 -0400
It seems we've exhausted the insurance thing and the antenna thing, so unless
there are any new major facts of information, these are dead.
This weeks moderator, Marty
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Subject: [DML] BBC responds to 'The Car's The Star' e-mail
Date: 1-Sep-99 18:45:52 +0100
Hi all
I am in no doubt you have all heard about Quentin Wilson's news paper
article by now. But the 'The Cars The Star' soon to be shown on TV within
the next two months could turn out to be another Delorean put down. I
e-mailed the information sector of the BBC to find out. Their response is on
my Web Page www.btinternet.com/~dmc12
Make of it what you can!!
James RG
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Subject: [DML] The DML vault
Date: 1-Sep-99 11:55:06 -0600
How many of you on the list are aware of the DML vault at:-
http://www.egroups.com/docvault/dmcnews/
This is for everyone on the list, it has 20meg of storage and only 2
pictures on it so far.
Chris
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Subject: [DML] D M D
Date: 1-Sep-99 12:00:12 -0600
This is the first set of images of my DeLorean model on the web. The DMD
website is in the works and will be up on the webring soon. Please consider
that these images have been lowered in quality to shrink the file from a
massive 1.2 meg down to 64k
Every car is built to order and takes many hours to complete. Many
materials are used including metal, before final airbrush/painting. The car
is a solid display model. This dictates tinted windows and no moving parts.
The detail is so intricate that you can see the tread & text on the tyres.
The finished car is VERY heavy. Every DMC-12 (unless otherwise requested)
is mounted on a dark wooden plaque with a genuine DELOREAN nameplate (as
seen on the hoods of 1983 cars). Each customised hand-built DMC is sent out
all over the world from sunny Manchester in Great Britain.
I can have the model match your DMC exactly if you wish (fuel filler cap,
slats on the hood etc). I have also had requests for gold and coloured
cars, rather than the stainless finish.
The price is extremely less than the original $12000 thought up at concept
stage in the late 1970's (hence DMC-12), however the cars went for $25000
and over when finally sold in 1981. The 1/24 scale DMC's I am manufacturing
are less expensive than even 1/24 of the original figure. Exclusive of
recorded postage and packaging comes to ú250 or $390.
Alternatively unprepared and unpainted cars are available. You would get
detailed instructions on how to prepare and attach the final parts such as
the mirrors, exhaust system and wheels etc. Please be aware that additional
sandpaper, paint and patience are required as many hours are required for
completion. Without the plaque, nameplate and exclusive of recorded postage
and packaging comes to ú125 or $195.
As for pictures, I have only just started to distribute across the Net so I
will be creating a Model DeLorean Dealership web page in the near future
showing all the details, images, movies and options available.
If there are any questions do not hesitate in asking?
Regards
Christopher M. Hawes
CMHDevelopment@Hotmail.com
Manchester, UK
DMD DeLorean Model Dealership
The vault:-
http://www.egroups.com/docvault/dmcnews/
The image:-
http://216.32.180.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2eegroups%2ecom%2fdocvault%2fdmcnews%2f
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From: MALEVY@SMTP (Marc A Levy) {malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com}
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Subject: [DML] Re: Fw: [DMC2] Preliminary Announcement
Date: 1-Sep-99 14:03:18 -0400
Dont know if it is authentic or not, but it was sent to the onelist that
was listed on the old www.delorean.com site.
If the message below was typed by the man himself, it raises a few
questions that we have discussed before on the proper spelling of the
mans name.
1: "Delorean"
2: "DeLorean"
3: "De Lorean"
I thought it was accepted that #3 was the correct spelling, but the
message below is signed "DeLorean" and the spelling in the From line is
"Delorean". No place do I see "De Lorean".
Either way, I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens with
this!
yugoman wrote:
>
> Could this be authentic?? Or a cruel hoax? Will the real John DeLorean
> please stand up?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Z. Delorean <johnz@delorean.com>
> To: newdelorean@onelist.com <newdelorean@onelist.com>
> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 7:39 PM
> Subject: [DMC2] Preliminary Announcement
>
> >From: "John Z. Delorean" <johnz@delorean.com>
> >
> >Friends -
> >
> >In my years since the original DeLorean went out of production, I've
> >yearned to create another car, free of the limitations and compromises
> >imposed by the likes of Lotus, foreign governments and suppliers.
> >
> >That day is growing closer, closer than ever before.
> >
> >Our Website, http://www.delorean.com has moved to a new server, and details
> >will
> >be online soon on how YOU can be personally involved in the development of
> >the next DeLorean Sports Car.
> >
> >Exciting times ahead - be sure and tell your friends...
> >
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >John Z. DeLorean
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Subject: [DML] Re: overheating constantly--help
Date: 1-Sep-99 14:12:38 -0400
First thing to do is bleed the air out of the cooling system. Check the
archives for the correct procedure.
Kristen Bettcher wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
> My boyfirend's D has been overheating off and on all summer long. We've been assuming that this is due to the unusually hot weather we've been having, but it did it again last night and it was really cool out. It took a long time for the
> Any suggestions? (I think I'd be his hero if I came home with the answer to his problems)
> Thanks a lot.
> --krit
> BTW, although I don't post very often, I really enjoy being a part of this list. Keep up the great job!
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Subject: [DML] Re: Engine trouble
Date: 1-Sep-99 14:21:46 -0400
Lack of power after the engine has warmed up can be caused by several
factors all related to the fuel injection system. Start at the source,
remove the fuel pump and check everything from the pick up screen to the
pump. A kinked or defective pick-up hose will cause a drop in fuel
pressure. The fuel enrichment circuit also has a direct effect on engine
performance. A defective RPM or Lambda relay will also cause lack of power.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: rob.van.der.veer@twinsoft.nl
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Engine trouble
> Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 5:42 AM
>
> Hi,
>
> I own a '81 DeLorean and I'm having some recent problems with the
> performance of the engine.
>
> When I cold-start the engine, it starts in one go, but then I have to
> let it run for about a minute or two to let it become stable. When I
> start driving with it, the engine has full performance and really kicks
> ass. But when the engine has been running for about 10 minutes or so,
> there is a dramatic drop in power; suddenly the engine won't do more
> than 4000 RPM; and then it gets worse by the minute. Last week I had to
> drive home (14 Km) with a maximum of 1800 RPM (Which requires serious
> driving skills imho).
>
> I think it has something to do with the engine heating up and the
> fuel/air mixture or something with the injection system..
>
> The strange thing is my Dad drove it for about 100 Km on the highway
> without any problems whatsoever.
>
> As far as I know it doesn't have any modifications like a turbo or
> such.
>
> Any suggestions?
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Subject: [DML] Re: No Power/Low Voltage
Date: 1-Sep-99 14:22:01 -0400
I'm having this same problem too. " when I put the vent on nothing blows out of the two vents on top of the radio. When I switch over to bi-level, air circulates out of the vents." Does this mean there is a vacuum leak in the vent system
Jim
starbuck@gate.net
Rich Kula wrote:
> Jim, DMC Joe:
>
> Thanks for your help concerning my low voltage problem. I had a local mechanic take a look into it and sure enough it was the alternator. I had a new one installed and it seems like it is fixed. During normal operating conditions (with
>
> Next question....sometimes when the ventilation system is in the off position and the fan is in the off position it sounds like it is still trying to blow air but nothing is coming out of the vents. In addition to this, sometimes when I
>
> I really appreciate all of the help that is provided by this group. You point me in the right direction and the car gets fixed. I am learning every day and love my car (which I have only had since June) even more.
>
> Rich
> VIN #1460
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim [mailto:starbuck@gate.net]
> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 1999 8:18 AM
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: No Power/Low Voltage
>
> I'm having low voltage problems too. . I'll have 13Volt and when about to shift from 2nd in
> to 3rd the voltage drops to 10 volts and then starts to go back up.
> I'm in the process of making sure all the ground are good. And I wonder if the belt is loose
> and slipping but it feels tight.
>
> Jim
>
> DMC Joe wrote:
>
> > Rich,
> > The ignition ECU (electronic control unit) requires at least 9 volts to
> > operate at specs. Voltages at 10 volts or lower will cause erratic
> > operation. Your battery has a static output of 12 volts. With no output
> > from the alternator it doesn't take long for the system voltage to drop
> > below 10 volts.
> >
> > DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
> > Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
> >
> > ----------
> > > From: RichieKula@aol.com
> > > To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> > > Subject: [DML] No Power/Low Voltage
> > > Date: Saturday, August 28, 1999 10:54 AM
> > >
> > > Last night while driving home my D lost power and I noticed that the
> > Voltage
> > > meter was reading around 9 volts. I pulled over and shut it off. Then I
> >
> > > couldn't get it started again. I had it towed to a local shop.
> > >
> > > It sounds like the alternator except that I don't understand why there
> > was no
> > > acceleration? It is a 5-speed. Have any of you experienced this in
> > their D
> > > before?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any help.
> > >
> > > Rich
> > > VIN #1460
> >
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Subject: [DML] No Door lights
Date: 1-Sep-99 14:25:04 -0400
I don't have any door lights, dash board door open light or dome light
when the doors are open.. Does this mean I have a bad switch since all
the fuses seem ok..
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Date: 1-Sep-99 14:52:21 -0400
I am getting ready to replace my Battery in my D. I am debating between the
Optima and the Interstate. I was wondering what brands others are running
and what experiences they have had with charging and with the car sitting for
periods of time and their battery holding a charge. I am not sure which
Optima or Interstate best suits the D. Any input or experiences on use or
model numbers of current batteries in use would be appreciated.
Gary
Vin 3360
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Subject: [DML] Jacking Points
Date: 1-Sep-99 14:53:49 -0400
I remeber discussion on the best points to jack the D. I had trouble finding
the post in the archives. I want to lift the entire car and put it on blocks
to remove the tires. Whats the best place to jack each corner and the best
place to postion the blocks? Thanks in advance.
Gary
VIN 3360
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Subject: [DML] Re: overheating constantly--help
Date: 1-Sep-99 15:03:01 -0400
Kristen,
Intermittent overheating might signal an electrical problem. It could be that one or both cooling fans are not coming on when they are needed. There are a number of components that could be at fault.
The easiest cure would be if the fan control bypass has come loose or blown a fuse. This is in the relay compartment, near the passenger side door. Go to the DMCNews 'zine page:
http://www.dmcnews.com/zine.html
and download Issue #1 for free. It might contain the cure. While you are there you should download the other two free issues and print them out. Your boyfriend will be eternally grateful.
- Mike Substelny
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Subject: [DML] Re: Antennas
Date: 1-Sep-99 15:14:00 -0400
> Sean Howley wrote:
>
> I know that anyone can purchase a rear window defogger (you know, the lines
> in the rear window) and have it installed on a blank window (my father had
> this done to his car), so I do not understand why someone cannot offer an
> antenna that installs similar to the defogger.
>
They do. You can get one of these stick-on antennas (looks similar to a narrow
piece of scotch tape with a tiny wire imbedded in it) at most any full service
auto parts store. I bought one years ago, from Pep Boys I think, for my boat and
installed it in a hollow space between an exterior and an interior fiberglass panel
adjacent to where I mounted the AM/FM stereo radio (automotive style). It works
great. While my application is totally out of sight, I don't think it would look
very good installed where you could see it. But in any case, yes, they are
available.
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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Subject: [DML] Re: electrical problem
Date: 1-Sep-99 15:18:18 -0400
Steven,
If you haven't done so yet unplug the door lock module (red wire to circuit
breaker) power feed now !
The factory installed door lock module has a strange habit of activating
itself whenever it feels like. When it does relays inside the module will
cause the lock solenoids to "hold in". This condition will cause the lock
solenoids to overheat. Continuous voltage on the solenoids will burn up
their coils and will cause the door lock circuit breaker to open and close.
This high current drain will eventually drain the battery. In some cases
this condition can cause the lock solenoids to hold in the locked position
preventing one from exiting or entering the car.
If you want to return the central lock system to full operation without any
further damage you will have to replace any defective solenoids and
purchase the Lockzilla from PJ Grady.
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> From: Steven Marx <birdstrike@hotmail.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: electrical problem
> Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 1:53 AM
>
> Thanks for the advise Erick... I wish that was the problem. My battery
is
> discharging from one of the hot battery lines. I've narrowed it down to
> something forward of the firewall, but the source still has me miffed.
> Unplugging the door buzzer stopped the noise but not the bat. draw. Do I
> have two separate problems?? I thought it might be that one of the door
> locks is trying to constantly lock/ unlock. Could this be??? Advice
from
> anyone on this subject would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
>
>
> >From: E Grauff <datamonk@svn.net>
> >Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> >To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> >Subject: [DML] Re: electrical problem
> >Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:45:54 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >On mine, the ignition lock itself gets stuck pushed in about 1/8th of an
> >inch (even though the key is removed) - if push it with my pinky it pops
> >out and the noise stops.
> >Don't know if it's applicable to you, but something to look at.
> >-Eric
> >
> >On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 birdstrike@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > The "key in the ignition w/ door open" buzzer stays on all the time,
> > > just a little bit, barely audible. This continues when the car is
shut
> > > down and the key removed causing the battery to lose charge
overnight.
> > > Is it a bad relay?? which one?? Please help I need to fix it up to
> > > sell and don't want to pass on any problems.
> > >
> > >
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Subject: [DML] Re: No Power/Low Voltage
Date: 1-Sep-99 15:20:29 -0400
Rich,
Depending how many other accessories are on the volt meter should read 13
to 14.5 volts with the AC and cooling fans off. With the fans and AC on the
voltage may drop to 12 - 13 volts.
If the AC mode switch and or the fan speed switch is "off" there should be
no
power going to the interior blower motor. If the motor continues to run
with either of these switches "off" you have a problem.
The upper vents should be fully open when the mode switch is in "MAX" &
"VENT". If it opens in other positions one of the vacuum lines connected to
the mode switch is in the wrong receptacle or you have a defective AC mode
switch.
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> From: Rich Kula <rkula@landrum-brown.com>
> To: 'dmcnews@egroups.com'
> Subject: [DML] Re: No Power/Low Voltage
> Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 12:24 PM
>
> Jim, DMC Joe:
>
> Thanks for your help concerning my low voltage problem. I had a local
mechanic take a look into it and sure enough it was the alternator. I had
a new one installed and it seems like it is fixed. During normal operating
conditions (with and without A/C) how much should the Volt meter vary?
>
> Next question....sometimes when the ventilation system is in the off
position and the fan is in the off position it sounds like it is still
trying to blow air but nothing is coming out of the vents. In addition to
this, sometimes when I put the vent on nothing blows out of the two vents
on top of the radio. When I switch over to bi-level, air circulates out of
the vents. Very strange.
>
> I really appreciate all of the help that is provided by this group. You
point me in the right direction and the car gets fixed. I am learning
every day and love my car (which I have only had since June) even more.
>
> Rich
> VIN #1460
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Subject: [DML] Re: overheating constantly--help
Date: 1-Sep-99 15:24:01 -0400
Kristen,
The DeLorean cooling system is extremely efficient and the hottest daytime
temperatures (110+) should not cause the cooling system to run hot. The
most common cause of a constantly high temperature is trapped air in the
coolant lines. The problem is easily corrected by bleeding the excess air
out of the system. The cooling fan system is also responsible for keeping
the engine cool when driving in stop & go traffic or idling. Problems in
the fan circuit can cause high temperature readings.
I am a little concerned about the oil light. It is probably caused be a
defective warning light sender. When the warning light comes on what is the
oil pressure gauge reading ? If the gauge reads below the halfway mark you
may have a more serious problem.
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To: dmcnews@egroups.com
Subject: [DML] overheating constantly--help
Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 9:12 AM
Hi guys,
My boyfirend's D has been overheating off and on all summer long. We've
been assuming that this is due to the unusually hot weather we've been
having, but it did it again last night and it was really cool out. It took
a long time for the temp to come back down and he still had to coast half
way home. Also, he's noticed that the oil light has been going on when it's
really hot out, but that also happened last night.
Any suggestions? (I think I'd be his hero if I came home with the answer to
his problems)
Thanks a lot.
--krit
BTW, although I don't post very often, I really enjoy being a part of this
list. Keep up the great job!
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Subject: [DML] Re: Antenna question
Date: 1-Sep-99 15:37:01 -0400
> Comet42483@aol.com wrote:
>
> #006974,
> We have a retracting (manual) front fender antenna, our car is an Nov. 81'
My car, #6419, built 11/81, some 555 units BEFORE yours (obviously) has the rear
mounted power antenna. These two examples support James Espy's theory that many
cars were shipped from the factory without ANY antenna and had the antenna installed
later at a QAC or the dealer.
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Subject: [DML] New delorean website and possible investors/partners speculation
Date: 1-Sep-99 16:29:28 -0400
ok go to delorean.com and you get the onimous message of D=MC2 (the new
formula for drving energy) <A
HREF="http://www.delorean.com/">http://www.delorean.com/</A> and now try
this one<A HREF="http://www.dmc2.com/">http://www.dmc2.com/</A>under
construction, seems like JZD or someone is grabbing up all the domains for
this car and title. I dont know if i should take all of this seriously,
but it sure would be nice if it were the honest truth. BTW I left a message
on the Mosler Auto message board asking if Warren Mosler had any involvment
on the project and the answer is no.(officially). This was my own
speculation that the manucactuer of the consulier, intruder, and raptor may
have some interest in this venture considering he is building production cars
with 0-60 speeds of under 4 seconds with his newest car and guess what?, it
uses a mid engine layout and a monoque body made of special plastics. sounds
like JZD's previous stated goals. and knowing Moslers slightly rebellious
reputation in the auto and racing industry with very unorthodox automobiles,
one can only suspect that he may have some compassion or at least an idea of
JZD's dreams. However Warren Mosler is highly respected in the world of
finance and economics, delorean is not. My point is that both men have the
ambition and drive to make similar cars, Mosler has the capital and
facilities however to make this happen. And if this is not the case, and
John Z. DeLorean is reading this I would offer this as a suggestion.
Great admireer of great
entreprenuers that also
build great cars. Dan
Gompper
of Manchester, CT and
student at UCONN
no vin yet
90 olds cutlass
supreame sl
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Subject: [DML] Re: VIN #
Date: 1-Sep-99 16:34:05 -0400
> Comet42483@aol.com wrote:
>
> Okay, There were supposedly 8,800 Deloreans made right?
> Well mine says (on the drivers door sill) that it was made in November of
> 1981, but my VIN# is SCEDT26T6BD006974, wouldn't this mean that it was the
> 6,974th car built ? but if it is then why is the number so high,
The figure I have read is 8,400. In any case, your VIN was among the last
'81 models built. November '81 builds started at about #6000 and went to
something a little over #7000. The '82 models started at about #10000 in
December '81. There were a LOT less '82's built than '81's, and even
fewer '83's. The company went into receivership in February 1982 and the
factory was closed in October 1982. It's my understanding that the '83's
were actually '82 models (about 1000 I think) that were still at the factory
when it was seized and shut down by the British government. These 82's were
later titled as '83's. I believe there were a few that were titled as even
later models.
BTW, the first '81's were prematurely rushed to market under pressure from the
press and JZD. Unfortunately these early models were fraught with problems.
That's why the QAC's were established in the first place. The first 81's
were built in December 1980. By November 1981 most of the early production
problems had been corrected so consider yourself fortunate to have a "later"
model.
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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Subject: [DML] Re: Antenna Placement
Date: 1-Sep-99 16:49:06 -0400
> To get the best reception without the whip antenna, would it be
> possible to wire the the radio to the doors (or maybe other body
> panels) for reception? There you get both vertical and horizontal. But
> on the down side, could this also end up "frying" your radio since the
> car is negative ground?
>
> -Robert
No, you would not "fry" your radio, but you would not get ANY reception
either. Essentially you would be electrically grounding any signal
"received" by your "door antenna". An antenna is an "open ended"
wire that is insulated from any other metal part of the car. The
broadcast signal is picked up by this insulated wire and fed directly
to the receiver circuits of the radio without touching anything else.
When a power antenna is retracted it is shielded nearly 100% by the
metal tube it retracts into, and by the metal fender as well. A
manual antenna that retracts typically does not retract into a metal
tube but rather retracts into itself and will generally pick up some
signal when fully retracted.
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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Subject: [DML] While we're on the topic of A/C...
Date: 1-Sep-99 16:52:53 -0400
I was wondering if anyone on the list has ever replaced the evaporator core
for their air conditioner. I am told that it requires a lot of work and
time. I believe you have to remove the dash? If anyone has any info or
advice, please let me know.
Thanks
JimmyC
VIN#15880
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Subject: [DML] Re: Batteries
Date: 1-Sep-99 17:16:13 -0400
Gary...I am on my 7th year with a single Sears Diehard. My trick is I hook it up to a Battery
Tender whenever it is put back in the garage...I am planning on replacing it before the trek
to Cleveland next summer, though.
Jim #5832
DeLorean31@aol.com wrote:
> I am getting ready to replace my Battery in my D. I am debating between the
> Optima and the Interstate. I was wondering what brands others are running
> and what experiences they have had with charging and with the car sitting for
> periods of time and their battery holding a charge. I am not sure which
> Optima or Interstate best suits the D. Any input or experiences on use or
> model numbers of current batteries in use would be appreciated.
>
> Gary
> Vin 3360
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Subject: [DML] Re: Batteries
Date: 1-Sep-99 14:20:55 -0700
Personally, I think any reputable battery brand will do nicely in the D.
From that standpoint it isn't any different from any other car. I have an
Optima in mine. Have had it in for two years and think it is great.
Living where it gets very cold, I especially like the cranking capacity
(even though it is seldom driven in the winter). Also, because it is fully
sealed, I don't have to worry about leakage. You can put it in on it's
side, upside down or whatever, and it just keeps functioning.
It's only disadvantage is that it is expensive, but it isn't something you
have to replace every day so I didn't consider that a big point.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Subject: [DML] Re: VIN #
Date: 1-Sep-99 17:25:53 -0400
Go to our web-site <http://www.deloreanservices.com> go to the main page
and click on the VEHICLE SPEC'S for information on Vin number breakouts by
year.
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> From: Comet42483@aol.com
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] VIN #
> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 8:43 PM
>
> Okay, There were supposedly 8,800 Deloreans made right?
> Well mine says (on the drivers door sill) that it was made in November
of
> 1981, but my VIN# is SCEDT26T6BD006974, wouldn't this mean that it was
the
> 6,974th car built ? but if it is then why is the number so high, ? any
> insight would be very helpful
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Spare Tire
Date: 1-Sep-99 17:34:46 -0400
Don't bother !
The DeLorean spare tire will only hold the specified 60 psi for a week or
two. If you have a rear flat and you are carrying a passenger there is no
place inside the car to store the tire, it won't even fit in the trunk.
All you need to do is carry a can of Tire-Flat or an equivalent.
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> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Spare Tire
> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 9:06 PM
>
> We are missing a spare tire to our Delorean. Where might I find a
> replacement or is there a interchangeable spare from a different model
> and make vehicle which is identical in size and wheel stud pattern.
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: No Power/Low Voltage
Date: 1-Sep-99 17:37:55 -0400
You have a defective AC Mode Switch.
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> From: Jim <starbuck@gate.net>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: No Power/Low Voltage
> Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 2:22 PM
>
> I'm having this same problem too. " when I put the vent on nothing blows
out of the two vents on top of the radio. When I switch over to bi-level,
air circulates out of the vents." Does this mean there is a vacuum leak
in the vent system?
>
> Jim
> starbuck@gate.net
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Subject: [DML] Re: No Door lights
Date: 1-Sep-99 17:39:29 -0400
Check the connections at the door plunger switches. Contact us directly for
wire color codes.
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> From: Jim <starbuck@gate.net>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] No Door lights
> Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 2:25 PM
>
> I don't have any door lights, dash board door open light or dome light
> when the doors are open.. Does this mean I have a bad switch since all
> the fuses seem ok..
>
> Jim
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Subject: [DML] Re: Premium Gasoline
Date: 1-Sep-99 16:45:22 -0500
After reading the threads on fuel octanes I thought I might add my two
cents. The higher the octane rating, the less volitale the fuel. That means
higher octane fuels don't light off as quickly nor as hot as lower octane
fuels. That is why they resist pre-ignition or pinging. If an engine is
designed to run on low octane fuel and is fed a diet of high octane fuel it
can, in a sense, become dependent on high octane. The reason is the lower
combustion temps resulting from high octane ratings can, in time, produce
carbon deposits in the combustion chamber which raise the compression ratio.
At some point the compression ratio gets high enough to mandate high octane
fuel to prevent the pre-ignition. The point here is nothing is gained using
high octane fuel in a low compression engine. The DeLorean shop manual
recomends 91 octane fuel with a compression ratio of 8.8:1.
Bruce Benson
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Subject: [DML] Re: Batteries
Date: 1-Sep-99 17:46:21 -0400
Don't throw your money away on exotic batteries. Purchase a brand name
battery that fits in the battery compartment. The higher the cranking volts
the better the battery. With the money you save purchase a battery cut off
switch especially if you don't drive the car on a regular basis.
The switch is the most economical and battery friendly device to insure
that your DeLorean will start whenever you ask it to.
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> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Batteries
> Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 2:52 PM
>
> I am getting ready to replace my Battery in my D. I am debating between
the
> Optima and the Interstate. I was wondering what brands others are
running
> and what experiences they have had with charging and with the car sitting
for
> periods of time and their battery holding a charge. I am not sure which
> Optima or Interstate best suits the D. Any input or experiences on use
or
> model numbers of current batteries in use would be appreciated.
>
> Gary
> Vin 3360
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Subject: [DML] Re: Problem with bad press
Date: 1-Sep-99 17:58:15 -0400
Like Jaguar, Aston Martin is owned by Ford Motor Company, so it's controlled
by the Yanks. And I agree, James Bond would be better off in a DeLorean, I
mean Judge Hardcastle drove a modified one in his show.
Brian
VIN 1597
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Subject: [DML] Re: Texas is hot, A/C is not
Date: 1-Sep-99 17:09:59 -0700
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phemm-@hotmail.com wrote:
>no A/C. Not good in the Texas heat! (and
> with such tiny windows)
I to have no A/C, with two DMC's both have lost coolent! Is there a
common place to look, or could it be just about anywere on the car?
Sweating in San Antonio
Paul
VIN#1119
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Subject: [DML] Water accumulation over frame
Date: 1-Sep-99 20:28:12 -0700
I recently acquired VIN#6703 (automatic, gray interior, lines, no flap,
rear antenna), so I am a lurker no longer...
First question:
In getting to know my new friend, I decided to put the front end up on
jack stands. As I jacked the car up, a large amount of water poured out
of the chassis from somewhere near the right rear swing arm area,
apparently having accumulated in or above the frame in the center of
the vehicle. This can't be particularly good.
I assume (but am not sure) that it was accumulated A/C condensate. So,
(a) how did it make its way all the way back there; and (b) why did it
accumulate rather than draining out? Where is the AC supposed to drain?
Are there drain holes somewhere that may be clogged?
Thanks for any help. I'm glad to finally be a VIN-carrying member of
the "D" community.
Regards,
Pete Lucas
VIN 6703
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Subject: [DML] HOUSE CALL TOUR #3
Date: 1-Sep-99 23:45:39 -0400
To All,
Our House Call Tour #3 through Nashville, Memphis, New Orleans, Mobile, &
Birmingham is just a few days away. If you and your DeLorean are anywhere
along the route Alan and I would love to meet up with you. For cities and
dates visit our web-site and click on the HOUSE CALL button.
When we return be sure to join Stephen Wynne, Rob Grady, and yours truly at
the SEDOC Cruise-In at lakeside in beautiful Gainesville Georgia Sept. 25 &
26.
For complete details and registration information click on the green
CRUISE-IN EVENT button at our web-site Home page.
If you have questions or need more information concerning either or both of
these events let me know.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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Subject: [DML] Re: While we're on the topic of A/C...
Date: 2-Sep-99 0:52:11 -0400
Also on this topic I recently tried the method mentioned on the list of using
a shop vac to suck the water out of the drain tube for the A/C. I dont think
it did the job well enough. How hard is it to remove the A/C drain tube to
clean it out? Is there a bulletin for this proicedure?
Gary
VIN 3360
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Date: 2-Sep-99 1:10:30 -0400
No; not so.
Although removal of the center console glove box and knee bolsters is
necessary the dash board and binnacle are not.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: Jimbo0946@aol.com
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] While we're on the topic of A/C...
> Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 4:52 PM
>
> I was wondering if anyone on the list has ever replaced the evaporator
core
> for their air conditioner. I am told that it requires a lot of work and
> time. I believe you have to remove the dash? If anyone has any info or
> advice, please let me know.
>
> Thanks
>
> JimmyC
> VIN#15880
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Subject: [DML] Re: VIN #
Date: 2-Sep-99 1:17:19 -0400
Sorry,
It has been brought to my attention that our web-site gives total vehicles
built by year but not vin's. If you need the vin break outs by year contact
us directly.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: DMC Joe <DMCJOE@att.net>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: VIN #
> Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 5:25 PM
>
> Go to our web-site <http://www.deloreanservices.com> go to the main page
> and click on the VEHICLE SPEC'S for information on Vin number breakouts
by
> year.
>
> DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
>
> ----------
> > From: Comet42483@aol.com
> > To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> > Subject: [DML] VIN #
> > Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 8:43 PM
> >
> > Okay, There were supposedly 8,800 Deloreans made right?
> > Well mine says (on the drivers door sill) that it was made in November
> of
> > 1981, but my VIN# is SCEDT26T6BD006974, wouldn't this mean that it was
> the
> > 6,974th car built ? but if it is then why is the number so high, ? any
> > insight would be very helpful
> >
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Subject: [DML] Re: Texas is hot, A/C is not
Date: 2-Sep-99 1:32:37 -0400
Follow the low pressure hose (drivers side) leading from the AC compressor
towards the front of the car. At the point where it dips under the
fiberglass body at the engine firewall the hose may rub against the sharp
edge of the body seam. If this situation is not corrected the hose will
eventually split releasing all of the refrigerant.
The most effective way to find leaks is to take your DeLorean to an auto AC
facility and ask them to perform a leak test.
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> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: Texas is hot, A/C is not
> Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 8:09 PM
>
> phemm-@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >no A/C. Not good in the Texas heat! (and
> > with such tiny windows)
>
>
> I to have no A/C, with two DMC's both have lost coolent! Is there a
> common place to look, or could it be just about anywere on the car?
>
> Sweating in San Antonio
> Paul
> VIN#1119
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Batteries
Date: 2-Sep-99 2:09:27 -0400
Gary,
Optima is the way to go. It is the latest and based on the best technology
and material used. The Interstate is just another high tech "conventional"
battery.
I have the Optima battery in my DeLorean for the last 1 1/2 years under every
possible temperature, weather and operational loads with no problems at all.
It has good power, charges up faster and maintains the charge for a longer
period of time.
I do not sell the Optima battery line.
The Interstate Battery line? I USED to sell them when I had my stores and I
also had them in my other cars. I am not knocking the Interstate batteries,
for I am only sharing my personal experience in the usage and the differences
of these two "different" batteries.
Again, if you have the extra money, go for the Optima.
Kayo Ong
#05508
Lic 9D NY
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Subject: [DML] Re: VIN #
Date: 2-Sep-99 2:14:45 -0400
In a message dated 9/1/99 1:09:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Comet42483@aol.com writes:
<< Okay, There were supposedly 8,800 Deloreans made right?
Well mine says (on the drivers door sill) that it was made in November of
1981, but my VIN# is SCEDT26T6BD006974, wouldn't this mean that it was the
6,974th car built ? but if it is then why is the number so high, ? any
insight would be very helpful >>
You can't go by the vin numbers for "actual time" of production,after all the
first real vin starts with # 500 and the last vin is # 20104,that would mean
that 19,604 Deloreans were built,certainly not so,as you can see the only
thing the Vin # tells
you is basically when in sequence it was built,but NOT exactly how many
Deloreans were built before yours.Numbers were skipped,as my vin # is
000570,and I know there were not sixty nine cars built before mine (maybe 10
cars or so)but nobody
knows which numbers were skipped,therefore you must also use the date of
manufacture to guide you.
Claude
Vin#000570
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Subject: [DML] Re: Spare Tire
Date: 2-Sep-99 3:07:25 -0400
In a message dated 9/2/99 12:50:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DMCJOE@att.net
writes:
<< Don't bother !
The DeLorean spare tire will only hold the specified 60 psi for a week or
two. If you have a rear flat and you are carrying a passenger there is no
place inside the car to store the tire, it won't even fit in the trunk. >>
This is my suggestion,if you get a flat tire and you have to use the spare,
and you have a passenger,and you don't want to leave your tire on the side of
the road,just put some high grade rope in your trunk,and if you get a flat,
tie the flat tire
vertical between the rear taillights,but try not to hide the lights,use as
much rope as needed to secure the tire firmly,kinda like the SUV's have their
spare on the back of their vehicles.Also put a blanket or your shirt if you
have to, between the rear facia and the tire.
Claude
Vin#000570
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Subject: [DML] Financing a D...
Date: 2-Sep-99 5:15:59 -0400
Is it totally unheard of for someone to finance from a collecter car
dealership who only works part time? I live at home so my
expenses are very low, but I'm wondering if there would be
any dealership who would finance me on a DeLorean. I don't
really care what kind of condition its in; I'm looking to take
good care of one.
Anyone have any ideas on dealerships I could contact? I've
tried Kansas City Imports (they currently have a 1981, 5
speed, good condition) but they never got back to me on my
credit app. (I have good credit, but its only about 10 months old,
and again, my income is not very high.) Any other suggestions?
Thanks,
Rich
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Subject: [DML] Re: electrical problem
Date: 2-Sep-99 7:42:36 -0500
Steven,
You may want to give this a try. Go to the fuse box and battery. Unplug
the positive post of the battery then pull one fuse at a time and touch the
positive post to the battery and see if you get a spark. Keep pulling fuses
one at a time until you don't get a spark. That will be where your drain is
coming from.
Hope this helps,
Duke
www.geocities.com/motorcity/8952/delorean.html
(will be updated once geocities gets me a password!?!)
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Subject: [DML] Re: Water accumulation over frame
Date: 2-Sep-99 9:28:18 -0400
The AC water drain is located between the front right frame member and the
fuel tank. To inspect this area remove the fuel tank access panel located
under the spare tire in the luggage compartment. The drain tube is a soft
black rubber hose, you will find it under the fuel lines leading from the
fuel pump. The hose is tucked in between the frame and tank.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: lucas@maya.com
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Water accumulation over frame
> Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 11:28 PM
>
> I recently acquired VIN#6703 (automatic, gray interior, lines, no flap,
> rear antenna), so I am a lurker no longer...
>
> First question:
> In getting to know my new friend, I decided to put the front end up on
> jack stands. As I jacked the car up, a large amount of water poured out
> of the chassis from somewhere near the right rear swing arm area,
> apparently having accumulated in or above the frame in the center of
> the vehicle. This can't be particularly good.
>
> I assume (but am not sure) that it was accumulated A/C condensate. So,
> (a) how did it make its way all the way back there; and (b) why did it
> accumulate rather than draining out? Where is the AC supposed to drain?
> Are there drain holes somewhere that may be clogged?
>
> Thanks for any help. I'm glad to finally be a VIN-carrying member of
> the "D" community.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pete Lucas
> VIN 6703
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Subject: [DML] Re: Problem with bad press/DeLorean as 007s car?
Date: 2-Sep-99 6:52:25 -0700
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999 17:58:15 EDT, LovDMC12@aol.com wrote:
"Like Jaguar, Aston Martin is owned by Ford Motor Company, so it's
controlled by the Yanks. And I agree, James Bond would be better off in a
DeLorean, I mean Judge Hardcastle drove a modified one in his show."
Brian
VIN 1597
I don't want to start a discussion here but... I do agree that the DeLorean
would have been a nice car for 007, but if that had ever happened I think
there had been no DeLorean featured in the first Back to the Future.
Remember that Back to the Future was the first movie to feature a DeLorean
as the main car. So if 007 had had the DeLorean it would have been "used",
and then who knows...maybe Back to the Future would have chosen a Bricklin!
Speculations of course, but the important thing right now should be to work
hard to get the new DeLorean, the D2, in the next James Bond movie. That is
probably difficult since companies pay a lot of money to have their product
displayed in a Bond movie. Right now it is BMW which is the main supplier of
Bond cars....
Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY
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Subject: [DML] Re: New delorean website and possible investors/partnersspeculation
Date: 2-Sep-99 9:53:37 -0400
At least this one is owned by someone who claims to be John DeLorean.
The address and phone number looks correct too! (I have removed them so
he does not get flooded).
Registrant:
DELOREAN, JOHN (DMC16-DOM)
BEDMINSTER, NJ 07921
US
Domain Name: DMC2.COM
Administrative Contact:
DELOREAN, JOHN (JD16681) no.valid.email@WORLDNIC.NET
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
WorldNIC Name Host (HOST-ORG) namehost@WORLDNIC.COM
1-888-642-9675
Billing Contact:
DELOREAN, JOHN (JD16681) no.valid.email@WORLDNIC.NET
Record last updated on 12-Apr-99.
Record created on 12-Apr-99.
Database last updated on 1-Sep-99 18:56:34 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS4.WORLDNIC.COM 216.168.231.23
NS3.WORLDNIC.COM 216.168.231.22
Macstacker@aol.com wrote:
>
> ok go to delorean.com and you get the onimous message of D=MC2 (the new
> formula for drving energy) <A
> HREF="http://www.delorean.com/">http://www.delorean.com/</A> and now try
> this one<A HREF="http://www.dmc2.com/">http://www.dmc2.com/</A>under
> construction, seems like JZD or someone is grabbing up all the domains for
<SNIP>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Water accumulation over frame
Date: 2-Sep-99 9:54:28 -0400
Yes, water is there for me too. I have never successfully addressed the
problem. Drilling holes in the panel that seems to hold the fuel tank up
presents itself as a solution (as that is where the water accumulates in my
car) but I've never done it. Slightly worried of the rust beginning from the
then compromised panel. And just lazy. Next try will be to extend the
condensate drain hose.
MHL
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Subject: [DML] Re: Texas is hot, A/C is not
Date: 2-Sep-99 10:14:08 -0500
My A/C problem has gone intermittent, which pretty much rules out a
freon loss. In fact, the original owner has a dashboard light for the A/C
compressor and I can see that it's getting dim, so I'm pretty sure I've just
got a bad connection somewhere. (An electrical problem? In a Delorean?
Say it ain't so!)
But since the subject of interior lighting has come up, I must ask
if anyone else has their "dome" lights stay on after closing the doors.
Mine stay on from 1 second up to 10 seconds, and I like the feature and want
to make it highly available. But it may be a feature of the alarm system
that came with the car.
Gus
> From: phemme@hotmail.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: Texas is hot, A/C is not
>
>
> I to have no A/C, with two DMC's both have lost coolent! Is there a
> common place to look, or could it be just about anywere on the car?
>
> Sweating in San Antonio
> Paul
> VIN#1119
>
>
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Subject: [DML] #7 fuse?
Date: 2-Sep-99 10:18:57 -0500
Can anyone tell me why my # 7 fuse suffered heat damage? I suspect the
inertia switch or the RPM relay. Me car wouldn't start last week (a silent
fuel pump) until I started to dinker around with these two items. The
button on the inertia switch would not stay up, so I knew something was
amiss, but there where no signs of heat damage. By the way, it's an old
switch (you know, the recalled ones with the brass connecters). When I
jumped #30 and #87 at the RPM relay, I got the fuel pump to run. I took
apart the relay and scraped a little crap away from between two cold solder
points (it wasn't a lot, but hey, I'm reaching for straws). After putting
everything back together (pluging the switch and relay back in and
replacing the #7 fuse) the car started.
Today, I broke one of the golden rules. Even though the car was working, I
went out to fix it. I wanted to know what it was I did that got the car to
start again. I started at the inertia switch. I moved the button up and
down a few times and low and behold, it stayed up. I pushed it in and
pulled it up and it still worked. So I pushed it in and started the car.
Then I pulled the button up to see if it would shut down the car, and it
did. Now the car won't start again. If I jump the switch and the relay,
the fuel pump works. If I plug in the relay and turn the ignition on, the
relay buzzes wildly. If I try to start the car, the wildly buzzing relay
tells the starter to click and buzz too.
Here's my thought. A bad inertia switch slowly took out the RPM relay
causing stress on the #7 fuse (heating it up but not popping it). Can
anyone confirm or dispute this? Is there any relation to a new electrical
problem in which the door buzzer seems to carry on with a very weak sound,
as if its not getting enough power to work its timer and shut itself off
(ignition switch?).
Thanks to "anyone"
Todd "Project Car 4 Sure" B.
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Subject: [DML] Why Buy DeLorean?
Date: 2-Sep-99 11:23:18 -0400
Alright guys, I'm still in the market for a DeLorean, but my dad needs some
more convincing if he is going to help me with funds. So, I want to hear some
convincing reasons why one should buy a DeLorean. If I get enough reasons I
will make a website or something listing all the reasons. So anyways, if you
could privately send me a couple reasons it would be appriciated.
Thanks for the help!
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Subject: [DML] good news!
Date: 2-Sep-99 8:31:50 -0700
We read a lot here about tracking down problems and fixing Deloreans.
For those who read these posting and assume the car is troublesome,
read this! I purchased a daily driven D (6225) in '96. It spent 6
months on jacks being restored with original D parts and/or upgrades
(ie front end frame stiffeners, braided steel clutch line, throttle
cable, horns, brakes, tires, sensors, swithes, etc.) Everything that
just plain wears out after 15 years and 40,000 miles of service. The
car has run perfect ever since! I've driven 9,000 miles and changed
the oil 3 times... That's all the maintenence it required.
I recently posted a message seeking help with an electrical problem.
(first hick-up in 4 years) It turned out to be a simple update that I
should have done years ago. With the help from groups like this, the
mystery is solved, the parts are on their way, and I'm driving again.
So you can't get parts at Pep-boys. But you can call an (800) number,
talk to someone who knows the car inside and out, and have the parts
show up at your front door in a couple of days. Which would you
perfer?
Sorry to be selling my "D"- steve vin 6225
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Subject: [DML] 83 problems?
Date: 2-Sep-99 8:46:58 -0700
was there any problems with the 83 model mine was (well at least i
think) was never updated is there any thing i got to fix in it .cause i
hear there s lots of upgrade stuff for earlier deloreans the only
thing i know is missing is this metal plate that goes over the stater
or ignition i don't know what its called im only 16 i don't know car
things!
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Date: 2-Sep-99 8:55:19 -0700
Does anybody know a cross reference number for the back brakes?
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Subject: [DML] crooked auto shop?
Date: 2-Sep-99 11:39:56 -0700
I just got an e-mail back from a local "exotic car" dealership in my
area about if they can put new brake pads on the back of the D and fix
the parking brake. they said that only putting new brake pads wouldnt
get rid of the queaking that it makes. now my question is....are they
feeding me a line of crap, or are they telling the truth. BTW: this
place hates Deloreans. which makes me think that they just want to
charge me a crap load for doing a simple job. thanks for the help
erik geerdink
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Subject: [DML] Pictures of John DeLorean's Family
Date: 2-Sep-99 13:04:13 -0700
I have managed to trace down on the internet what I believe to be
original photos of JZD's family, not his wife and children, but rather
his parents, grandparents and brothers! I believe these to be the
photos, but I have not had them authenticated yet. The photos can be
found in the Vault area in the folder for "JZD's Family". I've also
included a read me file to give everyone a description of just what
exactly each photo contains. Take a look and tell me what you think, as
usual, any questions, just e-mail me.
-Robert
p.s. while I haven't exactly begun to look for photos of Maur Dubin and
some others, if any one has any info or pix of Roy Nesseth please send
them to me, Thankx!
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Subject: [DML] Re: VIN #
Date: 2-Sep-99 17:02:03 -0400
Does anyone know what the last vin # of the 81 run was?
Thanks, Dave
Vin 7087
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Subject: [DML] Body repairs
Date: 2-Sep-99 23:19:44 +0200
Hallo!
To introduce me: I`m 26, living in Germany, near Stuttgart. Two months ago,
I bougt my baby, VIN 10284, grey, 5speed. Needs many repairs.
My question: Does anyone have knowledge in repairing body parts (glass fiber
reinforced plastic; is it called GRP?) The a-pillar is badly cracked and so
is the bottom of the passengers side. Someone did some repairs before, but
it does not look very well, so I want to redo it really good.
My problem: glass fiber mats are easily available everywhere, but the
two-compound-polyester "glue" which is intended for repairs on "normal" cars
does not seem to stick very well on the black GRP (?) material. I tried it.
- Does anyone know EXACTLY what sort of plastic was used for the body?
- Does anyone know what kind of "glue" sticks best to that material?
Funny: The VIN is 10284 but my frame has got the number 10281 written on.
Last question for today: Does anyone know of a company called FRANK GATTO &
ASSOCIATES in Miami, FL ? They were pre-pre-pre...owners of the car. I would
like to know something about the history of my car...
Greetings from sunny Germany...
Ralf Philipp
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Subject: [DML] Body repairs
Date: 2-Sep-99 23:20:37 +0200
Hallo!
To introduce me: I`m 26, living in Germany, near Stuttgart. Two months ago,
I bougt my baby, VIN 10284, grey, 5speed. Needs many repairs.
My question: Does anyone have knowledge in repairing body parts (glass fiber
reinforced plastic; is it called GRP?) The a-pillar is badly cracked and so
is the bottom of the passengers side. Someone did some repairs before, but
it does not look very well, so I want to redo it really good.
My problem: glass fiber mats are easily available everywhere, but the
two-compound-polyester "glue" which is intended for repairs on "normal" cars
does not seem to stick very well on the black GRP (?) material. I tried it.
- Does anyone know EXACTLY what sort of plastic was used for the body?
- Does anyone know what kind of "glue" sticks best to that material?
Funny: The VIN is 10284 but my frame has got the number 10281 written on.
Last question for today: Does anyone know of a company called FRANK GATTO &
ASSOCIATES in Miami, FL ? They were pre-pre-pre...owners of the car. I would
like to know something about the history of my car...
Greetings from sunny Germany...
Ralf Philipp
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Subject: [DML] Re: Spare Tire
Date: 2-Sep-99 17:22:37 -0400
Hello,
How does the DeLorean spare tire work? I know where are 2 diffrent sizes, how does it fit
both?
- Shain
CBL302@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 9/2/99 12:50:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DMCJOE@att.net
> writes:
>
> << Don't bother !
> The DeLorean spare tire will only hold the specified 60 psi for a week or
> two. If you have a rear flat and you are carrying a passenger there is no
> place inside the car to store the tire, it won't even fit in the trunk. >>
>
> This is my suggestion,if you get a flat tire and you have to use the spare,
> and you have a passenger,and you don't want to leave your tire on the side of
> the road,just put some high grade rope in your trunk,and if you get a flat,
> tie the flat tire
> vertical between the rear taillights,but try not to hide the lights,use as
> much rope as needed to secure the tire firmly,kinda like the SUV's have their
> spare on the back of their vehicles.Also put a blanket or your shirt if you
> have to, between the rear facia and the tire.
>
> Claude
> Vin#000570
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Last 81 #VIN
Date: 2-Sep-99 14:47:08 -0700
It's SCEDT26T2BD007199
Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY
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>Subject: [DML] Re: VIN #
>Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:02:03 EDT
>
>Does anyone know what the last vin # of the 81 run was?
>
>Thanks, Dave
>Vin 7087
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Why Buy DeLorean?
Date: 2-Sep-99 16:50:54 -0500
TOP TEN REASONS TO BUY A DMC-12:
10. Chicks dig it
9. Getting trapped by faulty door locks prevent carjackings
8. You can never hear "Hey Marty, what happened to the Flux Reactor" too
many times
7. DMC drinking games: Blow a fuse, take a shot
6. No drinking and driving since you can't stick your head out the window to
puke
5. You'll never have a friend ask you to help them move
4. You can wash your car with a Handi-Wipe
3. Despite having a hood, a bonnet, and a trunk, you still can't pick up
anybody at the airport
2. You can sell the front-left fender for more than you paid for the whole
car
and the number one reason to buy a DMC-12:
1. "Your rebate is in the trunk."
:-)
Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CountCrow4@aol.com
> Subject: [DML] Why Buy DeLorean?
>
>
> Alright guys, I'm still in the market for a DeLorean, but my dad needs
> some
> more convincing if he is going to help me with funds. So, I want to hear
> some
> convincing reasons why one should buy a DeLorean. If I get enough reasons
> I
> will make a website or something listing all the reasons. So anyways, if
> you
> could privately send me a couple reasons it would be appriciated.
>
> Thanks for the help!
> Don
>
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<BR><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">5. You'll never have a friend ask you to help them move</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">4. You can wash your car with a Handi-Wipe</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">3. Despite having a hood, a bonnet, and a trunk, you still can't pick up anybody at the airport</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">and the number one reason to buy a DMC-12:</FONT>
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> CountCrow4@aol.com wrote:
>
> Alright guys, I'm still in the market for a DeLorean, but my dad needs some
> more convincing if he is going to help me with funds. So, I want to hear some
> convincing reasons why one should buy a DeLorean.
If you don't already have your own reason then you are probably not a
good candidate to become a DeLorean owner. The only "convincing reason" is
that YOU want one!
Ed Thompson
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Subject: [DML] HEAD LIGHTS/RADIO
Date: 2-Sep-99 17:35:10 -0500
HELP
MY HEADLIGHTS HAVE TO BE ON FOR THE RADIO TO PLAY
ANYONE HAD THIS PROBLEM PLEASE LET ME KNOW THE
FIX.
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Subject: [DML] Spare tire
Date: 2-Sep-99 15:36:30 -0700
The so-called luggage rack for the DeLorean was (so legend goes) actually
designed so that a flat reat tire could be carried to the filling station
without having to have your passenger get out and walk. Whether the story
is true or not, the rack works and is one accessory that every D owner
should have.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Date: 2-Sep-99 18:37:48 -0400
gullwing doors save parking space and look cool, tell dad.
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Subject: [DML] Did anyone buy the delorean cd that was on e-bay 4 + months ago?
Date: 2-Sep-99 16:06:16 -0700
Did anyone buy the delorean cd that was on e-bay 4 + months ago?
If so could you e-mail me? With what was on it etc? Or who
sold it & if you still have there e-mail address?
thanks
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Subject: [DML] Re: crooked auto shop?
Date: 2-Sep-99 19:15:02 -0400
In-reply-to: <7QMG9SIUV4>
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 delorean502@excite.com wrote:
> I just got an e-mail back from a local "exotic car" dealership in my
> area about if they can put new brake pads on the back of the D and fix
> the parking brake. they said that only putting new brake pads wouldnt
> get rid of the queaking that it makes. now my question is....are they
Maybe, maybe not. Squeaking can be caused by a lot of things - you might
put on new brake pads that squeak even more. It all depends on the
condition of the brake rotors and the compound of the new pads. A little
brake squeal is normal - learn to distinguish the sound of ordinary
squeaky brakes from the sound of the pad wear warning sound and especially
the sound of rotors grinding on brake calipers, which can destroy a rotor
in just a few miles of driving.
> feeding me a line of crap, or are they telling the truth. BTW: this
> place hates Deloreans. which makes me think that they just want to
So take it somewhere else. The brakes come off of a Mercury Capri of the
mid-70's (sorry, I don't know a part number) and practically anybody can
replace brake pads given a shop manual.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Texas is hot, A/C is not
Date: 2-Sep-99 19:15:37 -0400
>I to have no A/C, with two DMC's both have lost coolent! Is there a
>common place to look, or could it be just about anywere on the car?
>
>Sweating in San Antonio
>Paul
>VIN#1119
>
I recently lost refrigerant and after having a "sniffer" check of my system,
leakage was noted in the front of the car at the condenser unit. The unit
had been dinged on the lower left edge from curb contact or something similar.
As I removed the UPPER refrigerant line from the unit, the female portion of
the fitting unsrewed far too easily, only slightly better than hand tight.
After removal, I discovered an oily area on the upper left front corner of
the condenser where the fitting is. Upon testing the condenser unit out of
the car, it was found to not have any leaks. The leakage had to have been
from the upper fitting which may have never been properly tightened and
after this many years, the O-ring dried out.
Steve Jarvis
# 3542
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Subject: [DML] Re: brakes
Date: 2-Sep-99 20:17:30 -0400
Rear pad crossover NAPA ES-721, Repco D197-BMXA
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: delorean502@excite.com
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] brakes
> Date: Thursday, September 02, 1999 11:55 AM
>
> Does anybody know a cross reference number for the back brakes?
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Subject: [DML] Re: crooked auto shop?
Date: 2-Sep-99 20:20:57 -0400
They are feeding you a line of "crap" because they don't like DeLoreans.
Don't give them your business !
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: delorean502@excite.com
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] crooked auto shop?
> Date: Thursday, September 02, 1999 2:39 PM
>
> I just got an e-mail back from a local "exotic car" dealership in my
> area about if they can put new brake pads on the back of the D and fix
> the parking brake. they said that only putting new brake pads wouldnt
> get rid of the queaking that it makes. now my question is....are they
> feeding me a line of crap, or are they telling the truth. BTW: this
> place hates Deloreans. which makes me think that they just want to
> charge me a crap load for doing a simple job. thanks for the help
>
> erik geerdink
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Subject: [DML] Re: Financing a D...
Date: 2-Sep-99 20:24:26 -0400
In-reply-to: <RJRAVALLI>
I have an 82 that I bought from an older lady who needed money for
medical expenses. I was able to put a lofty down payment on mine and my
credit union picked up the remainder of the tab. So maybe try applying
for a personal loan and use the title as collateral. Good luck, it's
worth every penny
p.s I'm considering selling mine soon
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Subject: [DML] Re: brakes
Date: 2-Sep-99 20:32:06 -0400
I am sure that there are several part numbers/manufactures of pads that
would work on our DeLoreans, but Last year when I replaced all of my pads
and rotors, I used the following parts.
Pads manufactured by Axxis (Metal Master type pads)
Fronts: 23-059-01 ($33.46 per set)
Rears: 23-009-01 ($32.46 per set)
Cross Drilled rotors manufactured by Auto Specialty
Fronts: EBR424R and EBR424L ($159 each)
Rears: EBR451R and EBR451L ($169 each)
I ordered all of these items from a shop in California (I cannot find the
paper work on the company right now) and there phone number is:
(650)589-3100, I think.
Sean Howley
VIN#2345
> Does anybody know a cross reference number for the back brakes?>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Spare Tire
Date: 2-Sep-99 20:39:10 -0400
The stud pattern for all four wheels is the same therefore the spare will
replace any wheel.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: Sean Jones <shain@noln.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: Spare Tire
> Date: Thursday, September 02, 1999 5:22 PM
>
> Hello,
>
> How does the DeLorean spare tire work? I know where are 2 diffrent
sizes, how does it fit
> both?
>
> - Shain
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Subject: [DML] Re: Spare Tire
Date: 2-Sep-99 19:40:25 -0500
duhhh, what people refer to as a "luggage rack" was really designed to carry your flat. I
suggest that you get one while they are still available
steve brodsky #10688
CBL302@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 9/2/99 12:50:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DMCJOE@att.net
> writes:
>
> << Don't bother !
> The DeLorean spare tire will only hold the specified 60 psi for a week or
> two. If you have a rear flat and you are carrying a passenger there is no
> place inside the car to store the tire, it won't even fit in the trunk. >>
>
> This is my suggestion,if you get a flat tire and you have to use the spare,
> and you have a passenger,and you don't want to leave your tire on the side of
> the road,just put some high grade rope in your trunk,and if you get a flat,
> tie the flat tire
> vertical between the rear taillights,but try not to hide the lights,use as
> much rope as needed to secure the tire firmly,kinda like the SUV's have their
> spare on the back of their vehicles.Also put a blanket or your shirt if you
> have to, between the rear facia and the tire.
>
> Claude
> Vin#000570
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Texas is hot, A/C is not
Date: 2-Sep-99 20:43:11 -0500
if they work correctly, they should stay on for a few seconds. called
built in delay
steve brodsky #10688
Gus Schlachter wrote:But since the subject of interior lighting has come
up, I must ask if anyone else has their "dome" lights stay on after
closing the doors. Mine stay on from 1 second up to 10 seconds, and I
like the feature and want to make it highly available. But it may be a
feature of the alarm system that came with the car.
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if they work correctly, they should stay on for a few seconds. called built
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Subject: [DML] Re Wheel color
Date: 2-Sep-99 21:58:28 -0400
It seems that of all the stock DeLoreans that I have seen there was only one
wheel style, but there were different shades ranging from dark dull gray, to
bright and shinny. Which is correct or did they evolve in much the same way
as the hood changes?
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Date: 2-Sep-99 21:12:06 -0500
Hello list,
I contacted JZD about this, he said it was not sent by him but
he does not mind. He mentioned it may have resulted from "an interview
with a fellow from San Diego" recently. But I like the looks of the
site that the message links to...
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Subject: [DML] Re: crooked auto shop?
Date: 2-Sep-99 19:41:43 -0700
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I know that this may come across as a kind of a dumb question to a few
people, but, why would you take your car to a place that hates D's?
-Robert
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=2699
>BTW: this place hates Deloreans.
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Subject: [DML] Spare tire solution
Date: 2-Sep-99 19:50:35 -0700
In-reply-to: <19990901215810>.OGZU15925
A hint that I was once given by another DMLer (Paul Hammer) was to
simply cary an extra large, heavy duty garbage bag in the trunk with
the tire. That way any dirt or road grime won't get all over the
intierior of your car! While your at it, I don't see why it then
wouldn't fit on the rear parcel shelf while it's in a clean bag. Just a
thought.
-Robert
dmcvega-@worldnet.att.net wrote:
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> If you have a rear flat and you are carrying a passenger there is no
> place inside the car to store the tire, it won't even fit in the
trunk.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Why Buy DeLorean?
Date: 2-Sep-99 23:25:02 -0400
First off They are very safe (according to everything I have heard), and what
parent wouldn't want to hear that? Also they get good mileage (in comparison
to my dads 9 miles a gallon truck). And finally they are going up in value,
so its a good investment!
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Date: 2-Sep-99 20:35:13 -0700
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dmcvega-@worldnet.att.net wrote:
Although going through an exotic car dealer for financing isn't
unusual, it can be a challenge to finace a DeLorean anywhere(even I
have asked this question before). Some places are afraid of the car
because of it's breed, and some it's age.(20 y/o 2 cars, one paid off,
2 credit cars, never ever any late payments, still turned down!) Right
now I am getting into a Credit Union for financing, and everyone there
has been very promising, so it's not always what you're dealing with,
as it is, who you're dealing with. I've had dealings with KC Imports
before, very helpful and extremely nice. But, however, they do their
financing through J.J.'s Best, and they are the worst when it comes to
financing D's! I believe that there are other list members who have had
unpleaseant dealings with them as well as myself. Chances are though,
thats who the dealer went through. Finally, you should ALWAYS care what
shape a car is in! I don't doubt that you'll take good car of the car,
but there's a differance between maintain, upgrade, and restore. You
want you car (at least your first) to be something that you'll drive
around & take pride in! Not something that's sitting in the drive way,
you're making payments on, and is frustrating you!
-Robert
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=2687
> Is it totally unheard of for someone to finance from a collecter car
> dealership who only works part time? I live at home so my
> expenses are very low, but I'm wondering if there would be
> any dealership who would finance me on a DeLorean. I don't
> really care what kind of condition its in; I'm looking to take
> good care of one.
>
> Anyone have any ideas on dealerships I could contact? I've
> tried Kansas City Imports (they currently have a 1981, 5
> speed, good condition) but they never got back to me on my
> credit app. (I have good credit, but its only about 10 months old,
> and again, my income is not very high.) Any other suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rich
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Subject: [DML] Unknown Stainless Steel Car.
Date: 2-Sep-99 20:56:05 -0700
I just uploaded a picture of a Stainless Steel car,(to the DMC VAULT) I
took a picture of a few years back,it looks sorta like a MG,does
anybody know anything about this car.Take alook at the pic,you can see
the New York plate,if someone can trace it down.
Claude
Vin#000570
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Subject: [DML] DeLorean Expo '99 - St. Louis
Date: 2-Sep-99 21:20:32 -0700
Just a reminder to register today for the largest DeLorean event of the year - DeLorean Expo '99 - Oktoberfest to be held on October 7 to 10 in St. Louis. Hotel reservations are filling up fast, so don't miss out staying at the Regal River
Complete information is available on the DeLorean Owners Association website at:
http://www.delorean-owners.org/index2.html
Join the Association on September 3 - 9 and receive a FREE DELOREAN POSTER. More Information is at:
http://www.delorean-owners.org/doa/joinspecial.html
See you at DeLorean Expo '99.
Ray Haug
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Subject: [DML] Delorean Related to Isuzu Impulse and Volkwagens Scirocco!
Date: 3-Sep-99 1:28:10 -0400
Hey guys,
I was doing some research on my car, and I found out that Deloreans are
related to the Isuzu Impulse, and Volkswagen Scirroco. They were all
designed by <A HREF="http://www.nes.it/italdesign/second.htm">Italdesign</A>
in Italy. Now if you don't know about these 2 other cars they both are
extremely similar to each other, even to the Delorean itself! The Scirroco
was designed in the early 70's and the Delorean and Impulse were designed in
81 "ALL OF THIS IS ACCORDING TO THE WEB SITE!"
To see it you'll have to look up the second prototype icon, on the next row
of icons near the bottom of the web page, to see what IM talking about you'll
have too see it to believe it.
Here is the web pages typed address if you couldn't get to the hyperlink
above http://www.nes.it/italdesign/second.htm
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Subject: [DML] Re: Did anyone buy the delorean cd that was on e-bay 4 + months ago?
Date: 3-Sep-99 0:28:56 -0500
In-reply-to: <936313576>.23911.304
000Importance: Normal
Something is terribly wrong! I did NOT write the attached posting, though
it has my name in the header! Did anyone else see that this original
message was from me? Has this happened to someone else before, or am I just
lucky?
Travis Graham
-----Original Message-----
From: Travis Graham
Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 12:10 AM
To: dmcnews@egroups.com
Subject: [DML] Did anyone buy the delorean cd that was on e-bay 4 +
months ago?
Did anyone buy the delorean cd that was on e-bay 4 + months ago?
If so could you e-mail me? With what was on it etc? Or who
sold it & if you still have there e-mail address?
thanks
aep358@excite.com
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Subject: [DML] Re: "Preliminary Announcement"
Date: 3-Sep-99 2:27:53 -0400
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On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 toscano2@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> I contacted JZD about this, he said it was not sent by him but
> he does not mind. He mentioned it may have resulted from "an interview
Considering that the list is an "announcement only" list it would be very
difficult for anyone other than the list owner to send messages from that
list. Therefore the reliability of the information on that list is the
same as the reliability of the list owner. Who is the list owner of that
list, anyway?
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Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Related to Isuzu Impulse and Volkwagens Scirocco!
Date: 3-Sep-99 3:16:23 -0400
Hey heres a better link to the site with the Delorean prototype and the
Impulse which is the Piazza <A
HREF="http://www.nes.it/italdesign/procars.htm">Italdesign production
cars</A>
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Subject: [DML] SteveDMC....
Date: 3-Sep-99 3:24:28 -0400
Thanks Steve, but again, I am 24 years old (one year away from your
"goal year"). :) But you probably wrote that before you read my reply
to the other person. I guess that post came off sounding like I am
alot younger. I guess I shouldn't have said I still live at home! :)
I too became interested in DeLoreans at your age and have been
waiting a long time to own one. And I realize that owning a
classic car is more involved than driving and pumping gas.
And I'd like to think I _do_ have a semi-real job. And I
_have_ finished school; I am currently studying for a masters
degree. :)
Sorry to pick your post apart...felt like it was necessary...hope
you understand. :)
Richard
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Subject: [DML] Re: Financing a D...
Date: 3-Sep-99 6:38:39 -0400
I went through a bank and got an unsecured loan. No problem there, just
sign and buy. That way not only do you not have to use the title, as there
are some banks that shy away from cars that old, but you also can park it in
your garage until you save up enough money for insurance.
Scott
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Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Related to Isuzu Impulse and Volkwagens Scirocco!
Date: 3-Sep-99 8:06:11 -0400
> XxPrimeX@aol.com wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
> the Delorean and Impulse were designed in 81
Not quite. The first production DeLoreans were built in December 1980.
That would be quite a trick to build a car before it was designed.
BTW, I am not a "guy".
Regards,
Ann Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
Midlothian, VA
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Subject: [DML] Re: crooked auto shop?
Date: 3-Sep-99 6:43:48 -0700
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I would never take my Delorean to this place to get some major service
done to it. But i figured fixing the parking brake isnt a major deal.
I have decided never to go there. I talked with them about Deloreans
and they would pretty much rather slam there head in a metal door then
to touch a Delorean. The place is Alan Christian Motors in Holland
Michigan. Just to let people know.
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Subject: [DML] DMD?
Date: 3-Sep-99 6:56:44 -0700
Chris, whats the deal with the DMD? Are you building delorean models?
could you e-mailme privately about this? thanks
Erik Geerdink
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Date: 3-Sep-99 9:52:24 -0700
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If you don't have a lot of money, but have a stady income and have
extra money set aside for unexpected break downs, then see if someone
will cosign on a loan with you. My dad co-signed on my auto loan for
the Delorean. We got an $8000 with ease! Interest is a little more
than a normal auto loan, but its definatley worth it!! Owning a
Delorean is what I've always dreamed of. Good luck
Erik Geerdink
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Subject: [DML] paint
Date: 3-Sep-99 9:57:24 -0700
the pain above my windshield is chipping. I looked in the archives for
an answer for this question but i found nothing. How do i strip the
old paint off and what kind of new paint should i put on? and how do i
put it on? thanks for the help
erik geerdink
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Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Related to Isuzu Impulse and Volkwagens Scirocco! Same Designers!
Date: 3-Sep-99 11:37:34 -0700
Hate to break it to you but this is not new. Italdesign has a few cars that
look very similar to the DeLorean. Many without gullwings. The cars were
also designed by the same man Georgio something or a rather.
--Al
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Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 10:28 PM
Subject: [DML] Delorean Related to Isuzu Impulse and Volkwagens Scirocco!
> Hey guys,
> I was doing some research on my car, and I found out that Deloreans are
> related to the Isuzu Impulse, and Volkswagen Scirroco. They were all
> designed by <A
HREF="http://www.nes.it/italdesign/second.htm">Italdesign</A>
> in Italy. Now if you don't know about these 2 other cars they both are
> extremely similar to each other, even to the Delorean itself! The
Scirroco
> was designed in the early 70's and the Delorean and Impulse were designed
in
> 81 "ALL OF THIS IS ACCORDING TO THE WEB SITE!"
> To see it you'll have to look up the second prototype icon, on the next
row
> of icons near the bottom of the web page, to see what IM talking about
you'll
> have too see it to believe it.
> Here is the web pages typed address if you couldn't get to the hyperlink
> above http://www.nes.it/italdesign/second.htm
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Related to Isuzu Impulse and Volkwagens Scirocco!
Date: 3-Sep-99 20:05:29 +0100
I notice this page does not mention the Lancia MonteCarlo which I thought sprang from the same
roots. It's also the most similar car to the DeLorean I've ever seen (the Scirocco is pretty
close but no where near as wide - it's also front-engined)
Martin
XxPrimeX@aol.com wrote:
> Hey heres a better link to the site with the Delorean prototype and the
> Impulse which is the Piazza <A
> HREF="http://www.nes.it/italdesign/procars.htm">Italdesign production
> cars</A>
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Brake pad springs
Date: 3-Sep-99 14:17:33 -0700
Greetings everyone,
After a recent 300+ mile road trip in my D, I noticed a squeaking sound
coming from the car that would get faster as I went faster and slow down
as I reduced speed and ceased when I applied the brakes. I talked to
James Espey at DMC about it and he said he had the exact same thing
happen with his car, and the problem is that the brake pads are flopping
around (I believe that's what it was), and that he installed brake pad
springs and his car hasn't had the problem since.
Can anyone please tell me the procedure for doing this? Is it something
that can be done by the average guy (when it comes to knowledge of
automotive mechanics), or does it require a professional? The brakes
work fine, which is the most important thing, of course. However, it is
very annoying to be squeaking as I drive down the street.
A quick search of the archives revealed the same question asked in '97
(issue 293), but no response was given there or in the following issues.
Thanks,
Ryan McCaffrey
VIN 10014
AZ lisc. STAINLS
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Subject: [DML] Re: Clearcoat?
Date: 3-Sep-99 15:50:18 -0700
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mishka-@interlog.com wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=2641
> The 97 DeLorean with the Time Machine Option is clearcoated and looks
> excellent. The stainless is a little darker in color much closer to
the
> facia color. An interesting coincidence?
>
> When I show the 97 DeLorean next to the stock DeLorean most people
> prefer the clear coat. They say it looks shiney like new cars do.
>
> Dr. Bob
Well according to DMC joe the clearcoating of stainless is really
expensive and dangerous to a cars health. Is this true for your car?
Any problems?
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Subject: [DML] eBay auction item
Date: 3-Sep-99 21:53:01 -0400
I saw this on eBay. Does anybody know what it is, just curious.
Title of item: Weber carb from DeLorean car.
Seller: markp@srl.org
Starts: 09/02/99, 20:30:00 PDT
Ends: 09/09/99, 20:30:00 PDT
Price: Currently $50.00
To bid on the item, go to:
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Item Description:
DeLorean Carburator. Weber carb, made in Spain. For DeLorean car. Designation
# 32/36/DGV-5A. In good condition
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Subject: [DML] [DMLDeLorean as 007s car?
Date: 3-Sep-99 21:15:01 -0500
Even if the New DeLorean was going to be produced tomorrow,
it would probably be Universal Studios who would grab the license
to use the car in the planned sequels to "Back To The Future"!
The reason the DeLorean was not used in a James Bond film is
probably because his cars tend to be fast, one thing the DeLorean
needs help on being. That may be why they chose a Lotus for the
movies.
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Subject: [DML] Re: "Preliminary Announcement"
Date: 3-Sep-99 20:01:08 -0700
The real question in my mind is, "How reliable is
toscano2@ix.netcom.com"? :-)
We neither know his name, nor his affiliation with Delorean. OTOH, we
do know that the new-delorean administrator made that announcement.
William T Wilson wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 toscano2@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>
> > I contacted JZD about this, he said it was not sent by him but
> > he does not mind. He mentioned it may have resulted from "an interview
>
> Considering that the list is an "announcement only" list it would be very
> difficult for anyone other than the list owner to send messages from that
> list. Therefore the reliability of the information on that list is the
> same as the reliability of the list owner. Who is the list owner of that
> list, anyway?
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Subject: [DML] Re: Brake pad springs
Date: 3-Sep-99 23:07:14 -0400
Ryan,
I'm not sure if DMC Houston has these items but you can order the springs
from PJ Grady, they are very easy to install.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: Ryan McCaffrey <ryanjm@home.com>
> To: DeLorean Mailing List <dmcnews@egroups.com>
> Subject: [DML] Brake pad springs
> Date: Friday, September 03, 1999 5:17 PM
>
> Greetings everyone,
>
> After a recent 300+ mile road trip in my D, I noticed a squeaking sound
> coming from the car that would get faster as I went faster and slow down
> as I reduced speed and ceased when I applied the brakes. I talked to
> James Espey at DMC about it and he said he had the exact same thing
> happen with his car, and the problem is that the brake pads are flopping
> around (I believe that's what it was), and that he installed brake pad
> springs and his car hasn't had the problem since.
>
> Can anyone please tell me the procedure for doing this? Is it something
> that can be done by the average guy (when it comes to knowledge of
> automotive mechanics), or does it require a professional? The brakes
> work fine, which is the most important thing, of course. However, it is
> very annoying to be squeaking as I drive down the street.
>
> A quick search of the archives revealed the same question asked in '97
> (issue 293), but no response was given there or in the following issues.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ryan McCaffrey
> VIN 10014
> AZ lisc. STAINLS
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Subject: [DML] 83 DeLoreans
Date: 3-Sep-99 20:30:10 -0700
Why are there so many '81 DeLoreans for sale and barly any '83s??
Is the 83 a better car? Or were fewer of them made? Whats the deal?
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Date: 4-Sep-99 0:10:01 -0400
There is a series of the PRV engine that uses a carburetor fuel system. It
is designated as the B-28A. It uses a completely different intake manifold
with no fuel injectors compared to the DeLorean B-28F.
If a DeLorean owner decided to purchase this item they could look at a
considerable investment in labor, time, and money to remove the factory set
up. They also would take a big step backwards as far as relibialty and
economy. Definitely NOT RECOMENDED.
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> From: ToniLFHS98@aol.com
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] eBay auction item
> Date: Friday, September 03, 1999 9:53 PM
>
> I saw this on eBay. Does anybody know what it is, just curious.
>
> Title of item: Weber carb from DeLorean car.
> Seller: markp@srl.org
> Starts: 09/02/99, 20:30:00 PDT
> Ends: 09/09/99, 20:30:00 PDT
> Price: Currently $50.00
> To bid on the item, go to:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=157219055
>
>
> Item Description:
>
> DeLorean Carburator. Weber carb, made in Spain. For DeLorean car.
Designation
> # 32/36/DGV-5A. In good condition
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Subject: [DML] Re: Body repairs
Date: 4-Sep-99 0:26:19 -0400
Ralf,
Complete factory specification G.R.P. body shell repair procedures can be
found at P:01:01 of the DeLorean Workshop Manual. If you don't have this
book and need copies of the named section contact us directly for more
information.
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> From: Ralf Philipp <philipp@mindless.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Body repairs
> Date: Thursday, September 02, 1999 5:19 PM
>
> Hallo!
> To introduce me: I`m 26, living in Germany, near Stuttgart. Two months
ago,
> I bougt my baby, VIN 10284, grey, 5speed. Needs many repairs.
>
> My question: Does anyone have knowledge in repairing body parts (glass
fiber
> reinforced plastic; is it called GRP?) The a-pillar is badly cracked and
so
> is the bottom of the passengers side. Someone did some repairs before,
but
> it does not look very well, so I want to redo it really good.
>
> My problem: glass fiber mats are easily available everywhere, but the
> two-compound-polyester "glue" which is intended for repairs on "normal"
cars
> does not seem to stick very well on the black GRP (?) material. I tried
it.
> - Does anyone know EXACTLY what sort of plastic was used for the body?
> - Does anyone know what kind of "glue" sticks best to that material?
>
>
> Funny: The VIN is 10284 but my frame has got the number 10281 written on.
>
> Last question for today: Does anyone know of a company called FRANK GATTO
&
> ASSOCIATES in Miami, FL ? They were pre-pre-pre...owners of the car. I
would
> like to know something about the history of my car...
>
> Greetings from sunny Germany...
>
> Ralf Philipp
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Clearcoat?
Date: 4-Sep-99 10:17:36 +0000
The 97 DeLorean with the Time Machine Option has been clear coated for 1
1/2 years now. It was out in -10 ¦ F last winter at Navy Pier with no
effects.
It is alot easier to get rid of finger prints with the clear coat.
I have heard of people clear coating their cars in the past, but have
never seen one. The was one guy who advertised doing it if I remember
correctly.
Dr. Bob
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Subject: [DML] Re: DMC performance
Date: 4-Sep-99 10:32:36 +0000
We are working on article #4 on the 97 DeLorean. This one will be on
performance testing.
Some interesting comparison I found in the literature show that the D,
in 1981 did not do too bad from a performance view. Here's the data:
quarter mile time speed
1981 DeLorean 17.6 seconds 79 mph.
1981 Pontiac V-8 turbo trans AM 17.02 seconds. 82.1 mph
1979 Mustang Cobra 18.4 seconds 77.1 mph.
Of course, engine technology has significantly changed since this time,
but for its day, the D was not all that bad.
Dr. Bob
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Subject: [DML] Re: crooked auto shop?
Date: 4-Sep-99 11:57:03 +0000
Hi,
As they say all hate for anything, especially Deloreans, comes from
ignorance. People despise it for what they hear or have read in articles
such as Quentin's. I think it is our duty as DML'ers to rid the world of
ignorance about Deloreans.
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Subject: [DML] Front DMC Logo
Date: 4-Sep-99 10:25:01 -0400
Unfortunately I took my DMC-12 on a recent outing and left it parked in a
parking garage for a couple of hours. While gone, someone decided to remove
the D from my front DMC logo leaving me now driving an MC. As someone who
loves my car it pains me to look my car in the eyes with a missing D. Can
anyone point me to someone (USADMC, PJGRADY, DeloreanOne?) who would be able
to supply me with a new D? Thanks.
Rich
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Subject: [DML] DeLorean in IL
Date: 4-Sep-99 10:53:14 -0400
Hey!
I was driving down North Avenue (Route 64) last night in Villa Park, IL.
I quickly screeched into a parking lot (scared the &^% out of my fiancee!
LOL!) and headed back into the direction we were coming from.
I don't know HOW I noticed it, but there was a DeLorean sitting in a parking
lot of an automobile repair shop. I honestly can't remember the name of the
shop, but it's right across the street from Denny's.
The D had Texas plates as well as the gas cap on the hood.
Just wondering if it belonged to anyone on the list. Drop me an email
privately if it's yours, ok? :-)
Thanks!
John
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Subject: [DML] Re: [DMLDeLorean as 007s car?
Date: 4-Sep-99 11:29:21 -0400
"The reason the DeLorean was not used in a James Bond film is
probably because his cars tend to be fast, one thing the DeLorean
needs help on being. That may be why they chose a Lotus for the
movies."
Couldn't help but respond to this one. I have driven the BMW Z-3 and it
is anything but "fast." The car is greatly under powered. Needless to say,
the Delorean can drive the required 90 miles per hour or more for a good car
chase scene. Maybe Quentin, our friendly car critic was the vehicle advisor
to the Bond films. That would explain a great deal.
Todd Z.
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Subject: [DML] DeLorean as 007's Car: POV
Date: 4-Sep-99 8:40:09 -0700
To be honest(and to throw a different point of view out into the open
here), I'm kinda glad that Bond never drove a D. Granted I can imagine
that there would be some pretty great "accesories" that the car would
have, but what car HASN'T James Bond either wreked or blown up?
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Subject: [DML] Re: Front DMC Logo
Date: 4-Sep-99 10:08:18 -0600
Rich,
I know how you feel. I had my deLorean parked a the far end of our parking lot at work and somebody managed to walk off with the entire front grill of my car (DMC logo included). I was able to get a new grill and logo from DMC houston.
Michael
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Subject: [DML] Front DMC Logo
Unfortunately I took my DMC-12 on a recent outing and left it parked in a
parking garage for a couple of hours. While gone, someone decided to remove
the D from my front DMC logo leaving me now driving an MC. As someone who
loves my car it pains me to look my car in the eyes with a missing D. Can
anyone point me to someone (USADMC, PJGRADY, DeloreanOne?) who would be able
to supply me with a new D? Thanks.
Rich
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Rich
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Dear Rich,
You should call The DMC of Houston at 1-800-usadmc1 and see if they have
a supply of them. I just went the the DMC of Houston and it is huge! Well I
have to go but have a nice day. I hope you can find a D for the DMC.
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean as 007's
Date: 4-Sep-99 13:00:27 -0400
If Bond ever drove a DeLorean, it would be a disapointment to DeLorean owers
and lovers. Due to the fact that DeLoreans came out in 1981, meaning that
Roger Moore as James Bond would have been driving it. It's safe to say the D
never should have been a Bond car, but it worked great in "Back to the
Future" which reall popularized the car.
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> The real question in my mind is, "How reliable is
> toscano2@ix.netcom.com"? :-)
Not very, in my opinion. The www.delorean.com site that, according
to James Espey, is the property of John DeLorean, links to the mailing
list that this guy claims is a hoax. I doubt that JZD's site would link
to a mailing list in his name over which he has no control, and not be
bothered by that as well.
To get a further indication of his reliability, go to his website at
http://www.angelfire.com/ma/speedlimit/index.html. According to him, he
is slated to publish an article in August 1999 "in the world's greatest
and most prestigious automotive magazine' that will "blow the top off
the new DeLorean project". I have yet to see anything of the sort, but
he claims to be in touch with everybody from JZD to dealers, and from
the looks of his page, it would appear as if John Z. DeLorean has
created a completely new car company in total secrecy, without the
assistance of press releases or a public search for investors.
Finally, casting further doubt on "toscano2@ix.netcom.com"'s
credibility, his web site features what can only assumed to be him,
wearing a clown suit of questionable nature in the aftermath of a Mardi
Gras type festival.
I would love to believe this stuff, but it seems like no more than a
hastily thrown together web page with little believable content. If
there is any truth to what he's saying, perhaps he ought to elaborate
upon these fantastic claims, and share it with the rest of the list.
Just my thoughts,
Mike Campbell
no VIN yet
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean as 007's Car: POV
Date: 4-Sep-99 13:41:37 -0400
Yes, I think that Q would have put some great things on the car, but I
believe that it wouldn't matter if James Bond Blew it up, or wrecked it,
because if you remember, Marty McFly in Back to the Future 3 destroyed the
DeLorean, not on purpose, by getting hit by a train. Actually, he didn't
really do it, they didn't know the train would be there...
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Subject: [DML] Inertia Switch Where does it go?
Date: 4-Sep-99 14:02:54 -0400
I bought my car last week and it had a bag of small parts one of them
being an Inertia switch.. Where does it go?
Also the Lambda counter (the discs with the numbers on them) where also
in this bag.. Is this something I need to replace or can I do with out?
Jim
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Subject: [DML] Re: Front DMC Logo
Date: 4-Sep-99 14:34:26 -0400
Very interesting. The logo plate on the front grill is a one piece unit
with the "DMC" letters stamped into the plate. If someone took only one
letter they would have to rip the plate from the grill, cut the "D" part of
the plate off with a hacksaw and than replace the plate. Is that what
happened ?
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> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Front DMC Logo
> Date: Saturday, September 04, 1999 10:25 AM
>
> Unfortunately I took my DMC-12 on a recent outing and left it parked in a
> parking garage for a couple of hours. While gone, someone decided to
remove
> the D from my front DMC logo leaving me now driving an MC. As someone
who
> loves my car it pains me to look my car in the eyes with a missing D.
Can
> anyone point me to someone (USADMC, PJGRADY, DeloreanOne?) who would be
able
> to supply me with a new D? Thanks.
>
> Rich
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Subject: [DML] Delorean Scale Model can anybody help me ?
Date: 4-Sep-99 15:43:28 -0400
Hi,
Can anybody Please refer me to a web site or **anything** of the nature, as
to where I can get a Back To The Future DeLorean, already Built Die cast
metal car replica of the movie's time machine, ive been looking for this for
years but found nothing ;( . By the way I don't mean that new J- Lightning
"Hot Wheels" type replica, Im Looking for it, in at least as the size of the
new Maisto "New Bug" replica So if anybody has any has any **phone numbers**
or *Anything* with information on that, please do let me know :)
Thanks a lot for your help
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Subject: [DML] Where does this Hose go?
Date: 4-Sep-99 17:56:56 -0400
There is this hose in my Engine compartment and I can't figure out where
it goes?
http://www.gate.net/~starbuck/hose.jpg
And there is a canister that is loose and the hose attached to it is
also loose. Is this some I need to fix?
Also in the Second photo I'm missing the In take hose..Is there a
substitute hose that I can use like off a dryer or is that a bad idea?
Jim Sleeth
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Subject: [DML] Owners in Cali selling?
Date: 4-Sep-99 19:15:31 -0400
Any California-baed DeLoreans owners looking to sell for around
15,000? Please contact me if so: RJRavalli@aol.com. Thank
you.
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Subject: [DML] Re: paint
Date: 4-Sep-99 19:53:24 -0400
Removing the trim piece above the windshield is a real pain. There are four (?) screws under
the outer rubber trim piece on each door side. I was replacing my outer rubber gaskets anyway
so it wasn't a big deal for me but if you want to reuse the same gasket gently peal it away
across the top starting at the T-top. After you get the rubber pulled back the screws are
philips head and are probably buried under several layers of adhesive. After you get the
screws out throw them out and replace them with stainless steel screws. To remove the old
paint you can use regular furniture paint stripper. After you've removed the old paint you can
repaint it with a nice coat of Kyrlon semi-gloss black. You'll notice the part is stainless
steel and you may be tempted to just leave it unpainted.
delorean502@excite.com wrote:
> the pain above my windshield is chipping. I looked in the archives for
> an answer for this question but i found nothing. How do i strip the
> old paint off and what kind of new paint should i put on? and how do i
> put it on? thanks for the help
>
> erik geerdink
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean as 007's Car: POV
Date: 4-Sep-99 19:31:45 -0500
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000Importance: Normal
Didn't Pierce Brosnan's Z-3 survive to the end of that film?
Besides, everyone knows that the Delorean is much better suited for Austin
Powers. :-)
Gus
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> Subject: [DML] DeLorean as 007's Car: POV
>
>
> To be honest(and to throw a different point of view out into the open
> here), I'm kinda glad that Bond never drove a D. Granted I can imagine
> that there would be some pretty great "accesories" that the car would
> have, but what car HASN'T James Bond either wreked or blown up?
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean as 007s car?
Date: 4-Sep-99 17:38:31 -0700
Exactly that is my point! The new DeLorean will be fast,(0-60 in 3.5 sec.)
and an excellent car for 007!
Stian Birkeland
NORWAY
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>Subject: [DML] [DMLDeLorean as 007s car?
>Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 21:15:01 -0500
>
>Even if the New DeLorean was going to be produced tomorrow,
>it would probably be Universal Studios who would grab the license
>to use the car in the planned sequels to "Back To The Future"!
>
>The reason the DeLorean was not used in a James Bond film is
>probably because his cars tend to be fast, one thing the DeLorean
>needs help on being. That may be why they chose a Lotus for the
>movies.
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Subject: [DML] re:comment in "bad press" letter
Date: 5-Sep-99 4:14:15 +0000
In the letter titled Bad press it stated that Judge Hardcastle in Hardcastle
and McCormick owned that DMC coyote but it was "Skid" Mark McCormick that
owned it, he took ownership of it when the daughter of Martin Cody gave it
too him after he helped prove that the man who killed her dad was infact his
business partner while trying to get the Cody Coyote into production. She
gave him the only working prototype. Sorry to knit-pick
Ryan
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Subject: [DML] roundabout question
Date: 5-Sep-99 4:32:03 +0000
I have a question about turbo D's that are sticks. I also subscribe to a
Dodge Dakota mailing list and granted that a Dak(Dakota) is a far cry from a
D but not being a D owner but a Dak owner I cheerfully say Vice-versa,
anyway, the question is in one of the letters there was a debate weither
turbo's or supercharging was better and one response was that stick Dak's
and turbos don't work together because in between each shift you have to
re-spool the turbos by plowing the throttle and get the pressure up before
you can shift are turbo D's this way too?
Ryan
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Subject: [DML] Re: Where does this Hose go?
Date: 5-Sep-99 10:18:32 -0700
It looks to me like it's a vent hose for the control pressure
regulator. Try tracking it down, to see where it connects (on the other
side). It should be hose-clamped onto a nipple on the top of a small
box mounted on the back of the left hand valve cover. On my car, it
just makes a U-turn, and aims back down onto the valve cover. The whole
hose is only 5 inches long. I would like to hear how it looks on other
people's cars though. I had a Volvo manual that seemed to suggest it
should connect to the airbox at some point, but that is not the case on
a Delorean. It's not really important at all. I don't think the vent
hose is even part of the smog equipment on the car. Does anyone have
any other info?
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Subject: [DML] Re: Front DMC Logo
Date: 5-Sep-99 13:26:59 -0400
> DMC Joe wrote:
>
> Very interesting. The logo plate on the front grill is a one piece unit
> with the "DMC" letters stamped into the plate. If someone took only one
> letter they would have to rip the plate from the grill, cut the "D" part of
> the plate off with a hacksaw and than replace the plate. Is that what
> happened ?
> > Unfortunately I took my DMC-12 on a recent outing and left it parked in a
> > parking garage for a couple of hours. While gone, someone decided to remove
> > the D from my front DMC logo leaving me now driving an MC.
> > Rich
Could it be that the letter was broken off from the others as a result of a
minor collision? How is the assembly attached to the grill?
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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Subject: [DML] Re: roundabout question
Date: 5-Sep-99 13:27:29 -0400
Basing my opinion on owning cars with turbos and superchargers in the past
.........I will say that superchargers win hands down.
Turbos do take time to spool up, this has been called turbo lag. With
superchargers the boost is there all the time and when the engine does not
require the boost it is by passed as to not load the engine. When boost is
needed the bypass is closed off and you have instant power.
The sad thing is that a supercharger is not an option for the Delorean,
because as far as I know no one make one for it.
Robert Starling
Vin#5252
> anyway, the question is in one of the letters there was a debate weither
> turbo's or supercharging was better and one response was that stick Dak's
> and turbos don't work together because in between each shift you have to
> re-spool the turbos by plowing the throttle and get the pressure up before
> you can shift are turbo D's this way too?
> Ryan
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Subject: [DML] Re: Inertia Switch Where does it go?
Date: 5-Sep-99 14:02:54 -0400
Jim,
The inertia switch is located in one of two areas depending on you vin
number. Both locations are in the drivers footwell. You will find the
switch just to the left of the pedal box on the firewall or further left on
the fender wall near the hood latch lever. If you haven't had any problems
with the switch leave it alone.
Concerning your Lambda Counter, these units have a "0" failure rate. You
may want to mount the extra one as an interesting conversation piece.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: Jim <starbuck@gate.net>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Inertia Switch Where does it go?
> Date: Saturday, September 04, 1999 2:02 PM
>
> I bought my car last week and it had a bag of small parts one of them
> being an Inertia switch.. Where does it go?
>
> Also the Lambda counter (the discs with the numbers on them) where also
> in this bag.. Is this something I need to replace or can I do with out?
>
> Jim
> Starbuck@gate.net
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Where does this Hose go?
Date: 5-Sep-99 14:48:13 -0400
> There is this hose in my Engine compartment and I can't figure out where
> it goes?
IT IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO TELL, BASED OF THE LIGHTING, IF THIS IS THE
WARM-UP REGULATOR VACUM HOSE. IF YOU CAN SEND ME A SIMILAR PICTURE TAKEN
FOM THE LEFT SIDE OF THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT I WILL BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU
WHERE THIS HOSE IS CONNECTED.
> And there is a canister that is loose and the hose attached to it is
> also loose. Is this some I need to fix?
THE CANNISTER ITEM IS ACTUALLY THE OIL BREATHER. DISSCONNECT THE AIR
CLEANER HOSE & PULL THE UNIT OUT OF THE PIPE IT SITS IN.
YOU WILL NOTICE A BLACK RUBBER "O" RING CLOSE TO THE UPPER EDGE OF THE
UNIT. THE "O" RING WILL BE LOOSE OR MISSING. REPLACING THIS PART WILL ALLOW
THE UNIT TO SIT FIRMILY IN THE VENT PIPE.
>
> Also in the Second photo I'm missing the In take hose..Is there a
> substitute hose that I can use like off a dryer or is that a bad idea?
>
> I DIDN'T SEE THE 2ND PIX. BUT IT SOUNS LIKE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE
LARGE RIBBED HOSE THAT CONNECTS THE AIR CLEANER TO THE AIR INLET DUCT. This
is an unusual hose and may be difficult to find at you local auto parts
store. It is available from DeLorean parts suppliers as item # 105927G
priced under $20.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Spare Tire
Date: 5-Sep-99 16:46:29 -0400
on the subject of spare tires , does anyone have a second hand front wheel
for sale??
I dented the alloy yesterday and am badly needing a new wheel
please email me if anyone has one
cheers
Neil
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Date: 5-Sep-99 15:51:47 -0500
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Jim,
There is supposed to be an open-ended hose in that vicinity but I can't tell
if that's the one. My open hose is bent in a "U" shape downward and not
sticking straight out, presumably to keep water out.
That "canister" is the oil fill cap and (I think) vents the crankcase
pressure. On my engine, the larger unclamped hose removes easily, but is
snug (it doesn't fall off by itself).
I also was missing my intake hose, and searched high and low for a
substitute, eventually bought a generic that wouldn't work, and basically
wasted allot of time. One call to USADMC put the exact right part in my
hands two days and $20 later. (It was about $20, don't quote me.)
Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim [mailto:starbuck@gate.net]
> Subject: [DML] Where does this Hose go?
>
>
> There is this hose in my Engine compartment and I can't figure out where
> it goes?
>
> http://www.gate.net/~starbuck/hose.jpg
>
> And there is a canister that is loose and the hose attached to it is
> also loose. Is this some I need to fix?
>
> Also in the Second photo I'm missing the In take hose..Is there a
> substitute hose that I can use like off a dryer or is that a bad idea?
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Date: 5-Sep-99 15:53:59 -0500
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You know, now that you mention that BTTF3 scene, it reminds me that I have
to cross train tracks on my way to and from work, and every time I do so in
the Delorean the little hairs on the back of my neck stand up. Yech!
Gus
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> From: BondAtomic@aol.com [mailto:BondAtomic@aol.com]
> Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean as 007's Car: POV
>
> Yes, I think that Q would have put some great things on the car, but I
> believe that it wouldn't matter if James Bond Blew it up, or wrecked it,
> because if you remember, Marty McFly in Back to the Future 3 destroyed the
> DeLorean, not on purpose, by getting hit by a train. Actually, he didn't
> really do it, they didn't know the train would be there...
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Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Related to Isuzu Impulse and VolkwagensScirocco! Sam...
Date: 5-Sep-99 16:59:45 -0400
In a message dated 9/3/99 8:37:50 PM Central Daylight Time,
alexk@spiritone.com writes:
<< Italdesign has a few cars that look very similar to the DeLorean. >>
The exact same man and company are responsible for the design of the Subaru
SVX from 1992 to 1997. It has many similarities to the DeLorean, including
tollbooth windows and the air duct running through the door.
David
1981 DeLorean VIN 5524
1992 Subaru SVX
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Date: 5-Sep-99 16:09:52 -0500
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Yup, that was my experience as well with the windshield header trim piece.
I found some highly noxious spray-on paint remover that did a real number on
the paint and the trim adhesive, so much so that I though I'd strip the side
windshield trim pieces as well. Ha ha! They're aluminum! The paint didn't
come off quite as easily as from the stainless piece, but now all three of
those pieces are bare and it looks great. The header piece needs to be
textured, tho. I buffed it with a Scotch-Brite pad until my arms were sore,
and it looks OK, but it doesn't quite match the texture of other panels. Of
course, the aluminum pieces don't really match anything, except maybe the
wheels. :-)
Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695
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> From: David Sontos [mailto:dsontos@sybercom.net]
> Subject: [DML] Re: paint
>
>
> Removing the trim piece above the windshield is a real pain.
> There are four (?) screws under
> the outer rubber trim piece on each door side. I was replacing my
> outer rubber gaskets anyway
> so it wasn't a big deal for me but if you want to reuse the same
> gasket gently peal it away
> across the top starting at the T-top. After you get the rubber
> pulled back the screws are
> philips head and are probably buried under several layers of
> adhesive. After you get the
> screws out throw them out and replace them with stainless steel
> screws. To remove the old
> paint you can use regular furniture paint stripper. After you've
> removed the old paint you can
> repaint it with a nice coat of Kyrlon semi-gloss black. You'll
> notice the part is stainless
> steel and you may be tempted to just leave it unpainted.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Inertia Switch Where does it go?
Date: 5-Sep-99 17:22:10 -0400
In a message dated 9/5/99 12:53:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
starbuck@gate.net writes:
<< I bought my car last week and it had a bag of small parts one of them
being an Inertia switch.. Where does it go? >>
Jim,
With the inertia switch in a bag, does this mean that your car doesn't
run? And if it does run do you think that might mean that the previous owner
either bypassed the inertia switch or just put in a different inertia switch?
And to answer your question, the Inertia switch goes under the steering
wheel somewhere by your feet.
Thanks,
Nick
VIN#1852...still for sale...e-mail for info
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Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Scale Model can anybody help me ?
Date: 5-Sep-99 17:52:55 -0400
I am also looking for a DeLorean model, 1:48 or larger. I would also be
interested in a Back to the Future DeLorean (1:24) if that is all there is
available. Please e-mail me individually if anyone has any information on
them.
thank you,
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Subject: [DML] Re: [DMLDeLorean as 007s car?
Date: 5-Sep-99 19:21:44 -0400
I understand that this is a DeLorean mailing list, but I have to respond to
the authors experience with a z3. I own one of these fine automobiles and
it is extremely fast. The onyl thing i can think is that he drove the
smaller 4 cylinder engine (now have a very powerfull six) that they had for
a very short time.
Sorry for the addition, any comments on this topic can be directed to me
personally.
Jack
DMC vin 3461
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From: TJzHeRe27@aol.com <TJzHeRe27@aol.com>
To: dmcnews@egroups.com <dmcnews@egroups.com>
Date: Saturday, September 04, 1999 12:50 PM
Subject: [DML] Re: [DMLDeLorean as 007s car?
>"The reason the DeLorean was not used in a James Bond film is
>probably because his cars tend to be fast, one thing the DeLorean
>needs help on being. That may be why they chose a Lotus for the
>movies."
>
>
> Couldn't help but respond to this one. I have driven the BMW Z-3 and it
>is anything but "fast." The car is greatly under powered. Needless to say,
>the Delorean can drive the required 90 miles per hour or more for a good
car
>chase scene. Maybe Quentin, our friendly car critic was the vehicle advisor
>to the Bond films. That would explain a great deal.
>
>Todd Z.
>
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Subject: [DML] Window off Guides and related reapair stuff
Date: 5-Sep-99 23:00:56 -0400
HELP!
I just bought and correctly installed one the window regulators from PJ Grady
in the Driver door. BUT the passenger window was broken in the DOWN position,
upon disassemble of the old motor/plastic elbow it became obvious that the
window pane was also off the guides.
HOW DO I GET IT BACK ON THE GUIDE TRACKS ???
Please any help is welcome, hope I don't need a body shop. I would like to
finish this holiday weekend.
Sincerely Paul C. Hart #2839 "Hart DMC"
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Subject: [DML] Back to the Future movies
Date: 5-Sep-99 23:28:01 -0400
In The Back to the Future movies its sad to see how poorly that Delorean was
treated.
1- For only being two or three years old at the time of filming it sure
had a lot of miles (30,000 plus)
2- The doors were really sagging in the first and second ones,
3- No one in that movie can Drive!!!, The Doctor was the worst, when
driving by remote control, he was spinning his tires all over the parking
lot.
4- What makes me sick is when the train hits the car, and it is crushed.
Its not that I don't like the movies, in fact I watch them every time
there on TBS which is like once a week... its just it seams like a very sad
life for the cars they used, By the way does any one know just how many
Universal used for the film? I know there is one at universal Studios
Hollywood, and the parts of a crushed one in Planet Hollywood Honolulu.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Brake pad springs
Date: 5-Sep-99 23:30:09 -0400
In-reply-to: <37D03AED>.9C9BA709
Before you remove the tire to check the brake pads, with the car jacked up
and on a block, try to wiggle the wheel from side to side and up and down.
if there is any play your bearrings may be loose/shot. I've had this
happen to my merc many years ago. After a while the wheel got really loose
and I could feel the back end of the car wiggle side to side. That's when
I pulled off to the side of the road, jacked up the car, pulled the wheel
and re-built the hub on the spot. It's a quick job if you have the tools
and parts with you.
-=mike=-
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On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Ryan McCaffrey wrote:
> Greetings everyone,
>
> After a recent 300+ mile road trip in my D, I noticed a squeaking sound
> coming from the car that would get faster as I went faster and slow down
> as I reduced speed and ceased when I applied the brakes. I talked to
> James Espey at DMC about it and he said he had the exact same thing
> happen with his car, and the problem is that the brake pads are flopping
> around (I believe that's what it was), and that he installed brake pad
> springs and his car hasn't had the problem since.
>
> Can anyone please tell me the procedure for doing this? Is it something
> that can be done by the average guy (when it comes to knowledge of
> automotive mechanics), or does it require a professional? The brakes
> work fine, which is the most important thing, of course. However, it is
> very annoying to be squeaking as I drive down the street.
>
> A quick search of the archives revealed the same question asked in '97
> (issue 293), but no response was given there or in the following issues.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ryan McCaffrey
> VIN 10014
> AZ lisc. STAINLS
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Re:Hot start
Date: 5-Sep-99 21:40:11 -0600
I need some advice. I have a D with 7K miles. Original problem is it won't start when it is
hot and has set for 1/2 hour or more. I replaced the fuel pump, pump seals, and filter. Now
when I start it cold, it idles real slow and will not come up to speed until it has run 4 or 5
minutes. If I press on the gas, it dies. After it is warmed up, it runs fine. If I shut it off
hot, it will restart fine unless I let it sit over a half hour, then it will not restart until
it completely cools down. Do I need to replace the accumulator? I cleaned the tank and there
was very little gunk.
Dick Ross
Vin 3000
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Subject: [DML] NCDMC Gathering on September 12th.
Date: 5-Sep-99 22:33:14 -0700
On September 12th, the Northern California DeLorean Motor Club will meet
for our September gathering.
For breakfast, we'll meet at 'Katy's Korner', 2550 San Ramon Blvd in
Danville at 10:00AM (see links info below). From there we'll caravan to
the Blackhawk Auto Museum. We've hit a small communication snag with the
Blackhawk, but if all is well, we'll be able to arrange our cars in the
big circle in front of the museum. This is a great photo opportunity and
makes for a dramatic setting for our cars. We'll be planning to arrive
at the Blackhawk at Noon in case you can't make the breakfast. We'll
also have a late lunch in one of the many fine restrauants in the plaza.
Please contact me and let me know if you can make the gathering. We need
to let both the restaurant and the Blackhawk know how many people and
cars to expect.
If you're looking for something to do on the day before, check out
http://www.vtr.org/db/auto/events/event-summary.html. Click on the 'Get
Details' button on the first event. This is the 1999 Palo Alto British
Car Meet, El Camino Park, Saturday & Sunday, September 11th & 12th On
Saturday, the group will be doing a morning Brunch and Cruise to The
Sea, coordinated by British Car Magazine. Cars will be staged from the
El Camino Park parking lot between 8:00AM & 10:00AM. There will be an
optional brunch at a pub on the coast at its conclusion. The price is
free, but please let the British Car Magazine staff know if you are
going to attend. Call: 650-949-9680 or email: BritCarMag@aol.com.
Another event coming up is the Bear Valley Lodge "Cruisin' in the
Colors" car show and "fall foliage poker run" on Oct 15-17 Contact James
Cooper at WtrResQ@aol.com (510)582-7834 for more info.
Our October meeting will be on the 24th. Plans are still up in the air,
but what we're looking to do is a special tour of the Winchester Mystery
House in San Jose. Stay tuned for details.
Also be sure to check out the NCDMC website. You can post announcements
there and see photos from past events.
The link for the Blackhawk is: http://www.blackhawkauto.org/
Write to me if you need a map of how to get to the restraurant.
Thanks!
Ken
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Subject: [DML] What is this I bought?
Date: 6-Sep-99 2:26:38 -0400
Hello all....
While in New Hampshire a few months ago, I bought a "brocheure" type of book
that looks to me like a car dealership book they gave as info on the car they
might buy one day while shopping @ said dealership. I got it at a car swap
meet, and the cover is black with the delorean car imprinted into the cover
page. Then, on the 1st page there is in big bold letters "PRESENTING THE
DELOREAN". The rest is pics and info on the car. Any ideas on where it came
from and what its value is???
Thanks!
Dave L.
Providence, RI
VIN- WAITING
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Subject: [DML] NEW DeLorean
Date: 6-Sep-99 0:17:54 -0700
Okay..I'm jsut getting into all this Delorean stuff. and so far.. I'm impressed BUT.. can someone please fill me in on what is going on with this "NEW DELOREAN" apparenlty in the making? Because I'd be opt for one of those, if not the origi
Thanks, Richard
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Subject: [DML] Re: roundabout question
Date: 6-Sep-99 5:14:37 -0400
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On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Ryan Schooling wrote:
> anyway, the question is in one of the letters there was a debate
> weither turbo's or supercharging was better and one response was that
> stick Dak's and turbos don't work together because in between each
> shift you have to re-spool the turbos by plowing the throttle and get
> the pressure up before you can shift are turbo D's this way too?
Turbo cars are that way in general. The trouble is that the engine, as it
slows down with the throttle closed, can no longer accept all the air that
the turbo is blowing. Then pressure builds up and the turbo, fighting
against it, slows down.
This is why blow-off valves exist; when the throttle is released the valve
opens and allows the turbo to blow into the atmosphere. That way no
pressure builds up and the turbos spin freely. Unfortunately the
currently available Island turbo kit (which is the only one I know about)
does not have a blow off valve, to the best of my knowledge. Fortunately,
because most turbo DeLoreans run low boost and the twin turbos spool up
quickly anyway, the effect is not that great.
It's true that automatic transmissions do not have this problem (as much)
because you do not need to release the throttle when they shift. However
because of the gear ratios involved, you will still have better overall
performance with a 5-speed.
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Subject: [DML] Re: door struts
Date: 6-Sep-99 11:31:32 +0000
delorean502@excite.com wrote:
>
> Well, since I was obviously wrong about getting the struts rechargered
> I now need to find a strut elsewhere. I know Pj Grady and DMC Houston
> sell them, but i was wondering if someone out there has at least one
> for sale. My drivers door sags a little and doesn't look too well in
> pictures of the doors up. please e-mail me privately. Thanks again
>
> erik geerdink
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Hallo Erik
We have gas struts for doors. Price is 500:- in swedish kr.
Where do you live? Shipping is extra!
Best regards
Sverker Lundgren
President
SDS, Swedish DeLorean Owners Association
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Subject: [DML] lambda counter
Date: 6-Sep-99 6:30:40 -0700
After spending much time (and new angle drive @ lower cable) I came to the conclusion my problem is the Lambda Counter. Taking it apart I have power to it by spinning the wheel and sometimes power out. The center metal shaft appears
damaged on the output side. Would someone have even a shaft, counter or a Cross reference for this item? Please EMAIL me if you do.
Dennis Harrett
(my88mph@interlynx.net)
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Subject: [DML] Turbo D
Date: 6-Sep-99 10:26:42 -0400
Ryan,
Although it would be tough to compare a Dodge SUV with a DeLorean, I can tell
you that I have a single Turbo on my DeLorean, and it does not resemble the
article in which you quoted. My turbo charged DeLorean is an absolute "rush"
to drive. It is responsive, strong, and has an exhilerating "swoosh" between
gears. I have never driven a stock DeLorean, but I'm sure it would be a
little disappointing after experiencing the added Horses, however, the real
driving experience is still the D itself. If I had to give up the Turbo to
keep the D, I would still keep the D.
Jeff
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Subject: [DML] Re: Where does this Hose go?
Date: 6-Sep-99 16:41:13 +0000
Jim,
The missing hose is a 3-1/4" flex duct available at most
auto parts stores for around $4.00.
Richard
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Subject: [DML] Chicago Area Gathering Sept 12
Date: 6-Sep-99 13:40:24 -0500
The DeLorean Midwest Connection Club will be attending the British Car Union
show next Sunday at Oakton Community College in Des Plaines Illinois. We'll
have our usual concours judging. This event is usually attended by over 850
British cars, and 10-20 DeLoreans. The rest of the cars are everything from
Minis to Rolls Royces and a good representation of Lotus cars.
Contact Don Gowler at dongowler@mediaone.net for information on the club.
For information and directions to the show itself see
http://www.qth.com/bcu/
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Subject: [DML] Re: lambda counter
Date: 6-Sep-99 14:58:18 -0400
The Lamda counter does not use any power. The wire leading to the unit is
only a switch connection that leads to the Lambda warning light.
I have never heard of a Lambda counter going bad.
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Subject: [DML] lambda counter
Date: Monday, September 06, 1999 9:30 AM
After spending much time (and new angle drive @ lower cable) I came to the
conclusion my problem is the Lambda Counter. Taking it apart I have power
to it by spinning the wheel and sometimes power out. The center metal
shaft appears
damaged on the output side. Would someone have even a shaft, counter or a
Cross reference for this item? Please EMAIL me if you do.
Dennis Harrett
(my88mph@interlynx.net)
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Subject: [DML] Re: Window off Guides and related repair stuff
Date: 6-Sep-99 15:02:11 -0400
You must completely remove the movable glass window from the door assembly
and realign it on the track before installing beck inside the door. If you
need further assistance contact us directly.
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> From: CarDetails@aol.com
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> Subject: [DML] Window off Guides and related reapair stuff
> Date: Sunday, September 05, 1999 11:00 PM
>
> HELP!
>
> I just bought and correctly installed one the window regulators from PJ
Grady
> in the Driver door. BUT the passenger window was broken in the DOWN
position,
> upon disassemble of the old motor/plastic elbow it became obvious that
the
> window pane was also off the guides.
>
> HOW DO I GET IT BACK ON THE GUIDE TRACKS ???
>
> Please any help is welcome, hope I don't need a body shop. I would like
to
> finish this holiday weekend.
>
> Sincerely Paul C. Hart #2839 "Hart DMC"
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Subject: [DML] Prelim announcement
Date: 6-Sep-99 15:09:47 -0400
It really gets me mad when stuff like this happens. If Mr. Delorean
says he didn't make the announcement and that it was possibly some
person from San Diego, why in the name of hell would this person do it?
This whole media of email is great but when people start doing this kind
of blatant mis-representation of who they are, it's time to take a
stand. We all have a great deal of interest in getting REAL information
about a new car. REAL word from JZD himself, not some wanna-be trying to
make himself more important than he is. I take personal offense to this
kind of announcement as there is a cloud over it. Enough is
enough..........We as a group of dedicated Delorean enthusiasts must and
should make sure we are getting REAL information not half baked guesses,
especially on a possible project such as this that we are all so excited
about. We deserve it!!!!
Let's get ONE person, elected by the list to be OUR representative who
will keep in touch with Mr. Delorean so that any future announcements
can be verified before it goes out to us all. Perhaps this way be can
avoid more mystery and nonsense!!!!
Repectfully
Tom Watkins
#5732
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Subject: [DML] Re: Re:Hot start
Date: 6-Sep-99 15:10:51 -0400
Replace the fuel accumulator to correct your no hot start problem.
Your other problems are more complex and could be caused by several items,
contact us directly for details.
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> Subject: [DML] Re:Hot start
> Date: Sunday, September 05, 1999 11:40 PM
>
> I need some advice. I have a D with 7K miles. Original problem is it
won't start when it is
> hot and has set for 1/2 hour or more. I replaced the fuel pump, pump
seals, and filter. Now
> when I start it cold, it idles real slow and will not come up to speed
until it has run 4 or 5
> minutes. If I press on the gas, it dies. After it is warmed up, it runs
fine. If I shut it off
> hot, it will restart fine unless I let it sit over a half hour, then it
will not restart until
> it completely cools down. Do I need to replace the accumulator? I
cleaned the tank and there
> was very little gunk.
> Dick Ross
> Vin 3000
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Subject: [DML] setting the radio clock
Date: 6-Sep-99 15:24:25 -0400
I can't find the combination for setting the clock in the DMCradio . Can
anyone tell me how it's done? Need help!!!!!!!!
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Subject: [DML] Re: NEW DeLorean
Date: 6-Sep-99 15:40:57 -0400
> can someone please fill me in on what is going on with this "NEW DELOREAN"
> apparenlty in the making?
> Thanks, Richard
>
Sure, happy to Richard. Here is the complete skinny:
There is no "New DeLorean" in the making, apparently or otherwise.
Regards,
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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Subject: [DML] Re: roundabout question
Date: 6-Sep-99 19:53:12 +0000
There are now two D's that I'm aware of with superchargers. One is in
the Chicago area and the other in the Seattle area.
We hope to dyno test one of these this fall.
Dr. Bob
97 DeLorean
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Subject: [DML] About me and my mission...
Date: 6-Sep-99 15:40:36 -0500
Hello list members,
First of all I receive the list in digest form, which sometimes
does not come through unless I delete a lot of old email, so I believe
I am behind by a few. Several list members have brought to my attention
that you all are suddenly wondering who I am and why I mentioned contacting
JZD, and I was told someone even asked about the odd photograph located on
my Web page index!
Handshakes all around, great to meet you, my name is David Toscano.
I own VIN4337 (81, automatic, grey interior) and have been a lifelong
automotive enthusiast. I am a "full-time" law enforcement officer and a
"leisure time" freelance journalist, usually writing about antiterrorism
training or military/police concerns. I was approached by an editor from
The Robb Report last spring and asked to put together a feature article
about the new DeLorean sports car for publication in their August, 1999,
issue special "Men and Machines." Unfortunately, JZD did not want to
release too many details too soon to the public and the article was scrapped.
I am currently working on a piece for another automotive magazine with
JZD's guidance and permission. The new article will probably not be published
until February of next year at the earliest. I will announce more details
as they unfold.
Oh, and about the photo on my Web page, I am not in it! It was taken by
an acquaintance after Mardi Gras (1995, I believe) and is the last known photo
of my friend Jean Lupre, the woman wearing the jester hat. Jean has been
missing since a few days after that shot was taken and the photo is there for
friends to recall what she looks like and in hope that someone will recognize
her.
Again my apoligies for not explaining myself earlier, and a hearty
"thank you" to all who have helped me out.
Take care,
D. Toscano
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Subject: [DML] Re: What is this I bought?
Date: 6-Sep-99 16:43:16 -0400
> While in New Hampshire a few months ago, I bought a "brocheure" type of book
> Any ideas on where it came from and what its value is???
> Dave L.
What you have Dave is the original showroom sales brochure that was available
to the general public in DeLorean new car dealerships across the country.
In mint condition this brochure could bring upwards of $50. There is almost
always one for sale on eBay. One sold yesterday for $35 (Item #155016708).
I bought one last winter on eBay in absolutely mint condition for $40 for my
DeLorean literature collection. There are quite a few still available in mint
condition so one in any condition less than mint is not worth much.
The one that boggles my mind is the book, "DeLorean - Stainless Steel Illusion",
Newport Press ISBN 0-930880-09-9. I have seen this out-of-print 160 page hardback
book sell on eBay in the past for well over $300. BTW, this is an excellent book
and should be on the required reading list of any DeLorean enthusiast.
Another good publication that is still available at retail through the DeLorean
Owners Association is the 172 page paperback Brooklands Books "DeLorean Gold
Portfolio 1977-1995". This book is a collection of reprinted DeLorean articles
originally published in magazines such as Road & Track and Car & Driver. DOA
sells this book at retail on their web site for $24.95. I have seen this book
represented on eBay as "rare", "out of print", and "hard to find", and selling
for more than $50. This book should also be on your required reading list.
Another item you will frequently find on eBay is the "DMC" logo license plate.
Also represented by eBay sellers as "rare" to "extremely rare", it has also sold
for over $50. It is available new, at retail, from DeLorean Motor Company,
Houston, on their web site for $12.95!
Regards,
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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Subject: [DML] Re: paint
Date: 6-Sep-99 16:08:27 -0500
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000Importance: Normal
I put 4 pictures of the unpainted window trim in the E-Groups vault. The
first is a general overview from the front:
http://www.egroups.com/docvault/dmcnews/Unpainted%20Windscreen%20Trim/dmcwin
1.jpg
The second and third photos show close-ups of the aluminum side pieces,
which don't quite match the stainless in texture. It depends on the
lighting and I actually picked an angle that shows the greatest mismatch.
http://www.egroups.com/docvault/dmcnews/Unpainted%20Windscreen%20Trim/dmcwin
2.jpg
http://www.egroups.com/docvault/dmcnews/Unpainted%20Windscreen%20Trim/dmcwin
3.jpg
The last picture is another overview from the side.
http://www.egroups.com/docvault/dmcnews/Unpainted%20Windscreen%20Trim/dmcwin
1.jpg
I'm actually starting to prefer the look. If I wanted to keep it this way,
I should probably have the aluminum pieces clearcoated and the top piece
properly textured to match the rest of the car (although it's hardly
noticeable and not really visible at all in the photos).
Gus
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sean Howley [mailto:tsuyoi@mindspring.com]
> Subject: Re: [DML] Re: paint
>
>
> Gus,
>
> Could you post a picture of the unpainted pieces or e-mail me direct so I
> can see what the DeLorean looks like that way. It sounds really
> good to me and I may be interested in doing this myself!
>
> Sean Howley
> VIN#2345
>
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Subject: [DML] What's a Lambda counter?
Date: 6-Sep-99 17:34:26 -0400
Hi all. (Again.)
Well, hearing all this talk about Lambda Counters. Worked @ a Olds - Jeep
dealership while living in Auburn, WA and never heard of them. Whats a lambda
counter? Is it restricted only to deloreans?
Thanks!
Dave L.
Providence, RI
VIN-WAITING
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Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Scale Model can anybody help me ?
Date: 6-Sep-99 17:37:49 -0400
In a message dated 9/6/99 12:47:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, IVe099@aol.com
writes:
<< I am also looking for a DeLorean model, 1:48 or larger. I would also be
interested in a Back to the Future DeLorean (1:24) if that is all there is
available. Please e-mail me individually if anyone has any information on
them.
thank you,
IVe099@aol.com >>
look in the DML e-groups vault,someone posted some pix of a 1/24 model that
he or she will be making (DMD)he calls them.
Claude
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Subject: [DML] Re: NEW DeLorean
Date: 6-Sep-99 17:56:05 -0400
In a message dated 9/6/99 1:04:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
juffo7@hotmail.com writes:
<< Okay..I'm just getting into all this Delorean stuff. and so far.. I'm
impressed BUT.. can someone please fill me in on what is going on with this
"NEW DELOREAN" apparently in the making? Because I'd be opt for one of those,
if not the original.. so if ANYONE has some info for me..please let me know!!
Thanks, Richard
>>
It's somebody's idea of a cruel joke,NO,there will not be a new
Delorean,unless it is a spinoff from some other car(like the Fieros made into
other cars)there will not be another car,heck,the people that make 1:18
models won't even make them,how in the heck is a real Delorean to be made
without at least $100,000,000.00 the needed
amount to startup a "NEW"Delorean.
Claude
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Date: 6-Sep-99 18:30:43 -0400
<< Can anybody Please refer me to a web site or **anything** of the nature,
as
to where I can get a Back To The Future DeLorean, already Built Die cast
metal car replica of the movie's time machine >>
I haven't really looked up the models a whole lot recently, but isn't that
what www.hlj.com has? I went to a site a while ago and searched DeLoreans
and it gave me a list of choices... you have to of course remember that
there was an "1885 railroad track D", a "1955 D" (I like the white walls!), a
"1985 D--first movie", then a "1985 D with MR. FUSION". Hope that helps!
(Also remember that the prices are listed in YEN!)
~Rick
VIN- still looking in NJ...
1955 Chevy Bel Air
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Subject: [DML] Re: What is this I bought?
Date: 6-Sep-99 21:43:22 -0400
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On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Ann & Ed Thompson wrote:
> The one that boggles my mind is the book, "DeLorean - Stainless Steel
> Illusion", Newport Press ISBN 0-930880-09-9. I have seen this
> out-of-print 160 page hardback book sell on eBay in the past for well
> over $300. BTW, this is an excellent book and should be on the
> required reading list of any DeLorean enthusiast.
Just goes to show you how odd eBay can be. The book can be found at a
number of Internet booksellers (try bibliofind.com for starters) for $200
plus or minus $50.
> originally published in magazines such as Road & Track and Car &
> Driver. DOA sells this book at retail on their web site for $24.95.
> I have seen this book represented on eBay as "rare", "out of print",
> and "hard to find", and selling for more than $50. This book should
> also be on your required reading list.
It's not. I bought a copy at Colorado Car Books for... I think about $20.
It wasn't hard to find, either. That store has dozens of books on all
makes and models of car, plus delightful books like "Going Faster" and
"Practical Engine Swapping".
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Subject: [DML] ADMIN NOTE: Back to the Future Thread
Date: 6-Sep-99 20:59:46 -0500
We've elected to kill off the BTTF thread again. There is a discussion group
Mailing List, also on eGroups, that is very active on this topic. BTTF
postings here will be rejected and referred to the other list.
Please check them out at:
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Subject: [DML] Re: NEW DeLorean
Date: 6-Sep-99 19:15:21 -0700
I am not so sure its a hoax. About a year ago I saw an artical in the paper
saying Delorean was teaming up with someone from Ford or something to make a
new Delorean. I wish I saved the artical.
>From: Ann & Ed Thompson <RappaRivaRat@erols.com>
>Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com
>To: dmcnews@egroups.com
>Subject: [DML] Re: NEW DeLorean
>Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 15:40:57 -0400
>
> > can someone please fill me in on what is going on with this "NEW
>DELOREAN"
> > apparenlty in the making?
> > Thanks, Richard
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Subject: [DML] I need some info on buying a Delorean
Date: 7-Sep-99 2:17:58 +0000
Hi everyone,
I am new to this list. I really deal with Fieros but I am really
interested in possibly buying a Delorean. Does anyone know what to look
for? I found one with 42,000 miles on it. Stick, black leather, and looked
to be in good shape except for the small dash crack. He wanted about 11,000
for the car. Is this good? Thanks for the help.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Hot start
Date: 6-Sep-99 19:18:47 -0700
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I had kinda the same problem. My Delorean would start fine the first
time, but after it warmed up and i turned it off, it would take about
10 turnovers to start, then would run find again. i replaced my fuel
accumulator and checked the starter wires on the starter coil. turns
out some of my problems were because the wires on the coil were just
sitting there and not connected very well. the whole process, taking
out the old accumulator, putting the new one in, and changing the wires
took me 2 1/2 hours. fuel accumulators only cost $120 after shipping.
good luck
erik geerdink
p.s
the D runs GREAT now. I better enjoy it while it lasts!
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Subject: [DML] Re: NEW DeLorean
Date: 6-Sep-99 23:11:37 -0400
Don't get excited. So far none of the information published has any
foundation. When you see details printed in Autoweek or Motor Trend than
you can start to get excited.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: juffo7@hotmail.com
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] NEW DeLorean
> Date: Monday, September 06, 1999 3:17 AM
>
> Okay..I'm jsut getting into all this Delorean stuff. and so far.. I'm
impressed BUT.. can someone please fill me in on what is going on with this
"NEW DELOREAN" apparenlty in the making? Because I'd be opt for one of
those, if not the original.. so if ANYONE has some info for me..please let
me know!!
>
> Thanks, Richard
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Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Scale Model can anybody help me ?
Date: 6-Sep-99 22:26:27 -0500
I recently bought a hot wheels like one from a shop outside of the ride at
Unerversal Studios in Florida. They also have some that are like
micro-machine cars, they had a package of three cars from BTTF2, one a taxi,
one a D, and one a cop car... I guess if you know anyone going on vacation
there you could ask them to pick you up one or something?
>
> Can anybody Please refer me to a web site or **anything** of the nature,
> as
> to where I can get a Back To The Future DeLorean, already Built Die cast
> metal car replica of the movie's time machine >>
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Subject: [DML] Original Owners Manual Question....
Date: 6-Sep-99 23:29:38 -0400
Hi
I was wondering if anyone could tell me what was included with the original Delorean owners manual.
I have one for auction on ebay at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=157204469
and several people have emailed me wondering if this is a complete set...I'm not sure.
Here's what I've got:
The original 50 page spiral bound owners manual
black vinyl case
Craig Sound System Warranty
Fold-out Vehicle Maintenance Schedule
Ownership Transfer Card
Goodyear Adjustment/Warranty Brochure
I also have an original dealer list (but auctioned it separate).
Is this everything or is there anything missing?
Thanks
mike@mrcopies.com
VIN #17089
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Subject: [DML] DeLorean Frame
Date: 6-Sep-99 23:34:42 -0400
Hi,
I am looking for a used frame in good condition for my 1981 DMC. I cant
afford to pay $8000 for a reproduction. Please let me know if you have any
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Subject: [DML] Re: What's a Lambda counter?
Date: 6-Sep-99 23:38:30 -0400
Lambda is the brand name for Bosch emissions control equipment. The Lambda
warning lamp warns a driver that the 02 sensor has reached the end of its
useful life. The Lambda counter is connected to the speedometer / odometer
drive and turns on the warning lamp at a predetermined mileage reading.
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> From: DLoff80@aol.com
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> Subject: [DML] What's a Lambda counter?
> Date: Monday, September 06, 1999 5:34 PM
>
> Hi all. (Again.)
> Well, hearing all this talk about Lambda Counters. Worked @ a Olds -
Jeep
> dealership while living in Auburn, WA and never heard of them. Whats a
lambda
> counter? Is it restricted only to deloreans?
> Thanks!
> Dave L.
> Providence, RI
> VIN-WAITING
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Date: 6-Sep-99 22:46:11 -0500
> Turbo cars are that way in general. The trouble is that the engine, as it
> slows down with the throttle closed, can no longer accept all the air
>that the turbo is blowing. Then pressure builds up and the turbo,
>fighting against it, slows down.
> This is why blow-off valves exist; when the throttle is released the valve
> opens and allows the turbo to blow into the atmosphere. That way no
> pressure builds up and the turbos spin freely. Unfortunately the
> currently available Island turbo kit (which is the only one I know about)
> does not have a blow off valve, to the best of my knowledge.
This statement isn't quite right and needs to be clarified. Actually a blow
off valve is something used in the CART racing series cars. It limits turbo
boost to the CART rules by opening, or blowing off, when a CART driver dials
his boost higher than allowed by the CART rules. When that happens he must
return to the pits to have the blow off valve reset. Our DeLorean turbos
have what's called wastegates. These divert the exhaust gases that drive the
turbo around the impellers when the pre-determined level of boost is
reached. They use spring loaded or linkage activated valves that open at
pre-determined boost levels. The single turbos use a remote wastegate
installed down stream of the turbo and the twins, Islands offering, have
interrogated wastegate, built in to the turbos, to accomplish this. When the
exhaust spins the turbo's impeller to the speed that produces the desired
boost level, the excess exhaust is diverted around the impellers to maintain
the level of boost that the system was designed to produce. None of this
process involves anything that happens when the throttle is closed. Driving
with a turbo requires some practice whereby the driver learns what it takes
to get into the boost area and staying there during the up shift process.
Bruce Benson
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Subject: [DML] Original tires and '82 upgrades
Date: 6-Sep-99 23:48:17 -0400
Hello again DMLers. Tomorrow we're going down to check out an '82 D; our
first hands on buying experience with D's. It was in our Sunday paper, so
that in itself is a rarity, because we don't have too many De Loreans popping
up around here. Anyway, we were wondering two things... First of all, what
are the ORIGINAL tires for a D ('82, if that makes any difference). I know a
lot of you guys seem to like Yokohamas, but are those the original tires for
the car? Also, what are the standard "upgrades" for an '82? I know the cars
kept changing a lot, and we don't have the VIN of said car. Thanks a lot!
~Rick
VIN- still looking in NJ
1955 Chevy Bel Air
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Subject: [DML] More-interesting-than-usual governor computer problem
Date: 6-Sep-99 23:52:44 -0400
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My newly-acquired #6703 has started to show typical symptoms of early-stage
auto transmision governor computer disease: When starting out, it
occasionally starts in third, or fails to downshift to first on a stop. I
built an LED solenoid-signal monitor, and sure enough, sometimes the
third-gear solenoid signal stays high (LED off) on powerup and/or doesn't
return to high after a stop. The second-gear signal seems to behave
normally. Symptoms go away after warmup.
Ho hum, you say--another poor schmuck with a bad governor computer. Well,
maybe so, but there's more:
1) My back up lights are always on when the engine is in park, neutral, or
reverse. They go out in Drive, 1, or 2.
2) The engine will start in park, reverse, neutral, or drive, but not in 1
or 2--the start inhibit function is clearly confused.
3) On multiple (but not all) occasions, I started the car with the A/C
running, the third-gear solenoid LED came up off, and briefly powering off
the A/C made the LED come on and operate properly.
4) Downshifting to 1 or 2 has no obvious effect, even when the LEDs show
normal shifting. I.e., shifting to 2 never seems to force a downshift, and
starting in 1 does not force the trans to stay in first gear.
5) Downshifting on full-throttle functions normally.
6) The voltage across the solenoid test-points in the engine compartment
reads around 10 volts.
So, is all of this related or do I have multiple problems? I am a little
fuzzy on how many inputs the computer has. I assume it takes several inputs
from the multi-function switch. The switch is obviously screwing up
somehow. Is it possible that this is confusing the computer? Is there some
adjustment related to the switch that will get it back into synch with the
gear-shift control? Is 10 volts normal or could a power problem be causing
compter malfunction? Is this why turning off the A/C often helps? What's
with the backup lights? Should I just send in my $400?
Pete Lucas
VIN #6703
P.S. -- Is any progress being made on a reengineered computer? Seems like
it could be done pretty easily with a $6 PIC microprocessor and a few bits.
If anyone is actively working on this, I could probably help. Send me a
note.
--pete
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Subject: [DML] Re: tinny sound
Date: 6-Sep-99 22:52:00 -0500
> erik,
> There are two possible causes for the noise that you describe.
Pre-ignition
> commonly called "pinging" (rare in DeLorean's) it is a serious condition
> that could cause serious harm to the internal engine components.
>
> It could also be an exhaust gasket leak. If it's the gasket it won't
effect
> engine operation, it just sounds bad.
There is a third possible cause. There is a metal heat shield rivited on the
top of the cross over pipe. It is not unheard of to have the rivets loosen
up to the point that the metal shield rattles when the engine is revved to
any sort of RPMS.
Bruce Benson
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Date: 6-Sep-99 21:03:18 -0700
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Ed,
Thank you or your response, it was most appreciated! Now that I have a
clear prespective on things I have another question for you , if you
don't mind :) I live in British Columbia,Canada and I would assume D's
are only found in the U.S. My question, what is the first step to
finding one? Is there any support or clubs or ANYTHING to do with
Delorean's up here? Thanks again for the helping hand =)
The Canadian Enthusiast,
Richard (VIN ?????)
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Date: 7-Sep-99 0:12:56 -0400
> toscano2@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> Unfortunately, JZD did not want to
> release too many details too soon to the public and the article was scrapped.
> I am currently working on a piece for another automotive magazine with
> JZD's guidance and permission. The new article will probably not be published
> until February of next year at the earliest. I will announce more details
> as they unfold.
>
Right! And I have a bridge in NY City for sale!
And as you should have been scrapped by the moderator!
There ARE no "more details" to be "announced". There never WERE any
"more details" to be announced.
BTW, I have an article that I expect to be to be published by Road & Track later
next century about JZD's new Millennium car (gold plated stainless steel with gull
wing gas flaps) scheduled for sometime later in 2000! Or not! Stay tuned.
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Subject: [DML] Ring Compressor
Date: 7-Sep-99 0:44:03 -0400
I tried using a ring compressor on a Delorean the other day and I ended
up busting several lower rings (2nd Piston). Does anyone know of a better way
other than a screwdriver and a prayer? Ring compressors just don't seem to
work on these post 70 Engines.
(I hope this message is in compliance with your mailing list rules of conduct
and regulations. Even if it isn't, I have a few more pistons to work on, and
I would hate to waste an entire ring package on one Delorean)
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Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Scale Model can anybody help me ?
Date: 7-Sep-99 0:47:51 -0400
I looked this stuff up and it's actualy a good price, 1500 Yen. Rate is now
110 to 1, So it's a little over $13.60
U.S.
Later....Donnie
dtaylor2@neo.rr.com
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To: dmcnews@egroups.com <dmcnews@egroups.com>; XxPrimeX@aol.com
<XxPrimeX@aol.com>
Date: Monday, September 06, 1999 9:37 PM
Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Scale Model can anybody help me ?
<< Can anybody Please refer me to a web site or **anything** of the nature,
as
to where I can get a Back To The Future DeLorean, already Built Die cast
metal car replica of the movie's time machine >>
I haven't really looked up the models a whole lot recently, but isn't that
what www.hlj.com has? I went to a site a while ago and searched DeLoreans
and it gave me a list of choices... you have to of course remember that
there was an "1885 railroad track D", a "1955 D" (I like the white walls!),
a
"1985 D--first movie", then a "1985 D with MR. FUSION". Hope that helps!
(Also remember that the prices are listed in YEN!)
~Rick
VIN- still looking in NJ...
1955 Chevy Bel Air
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Date: 7-Sep-99 7:35:56 +0200
000Importance: Normal
hi all!
on 25 september in austria there is the first american car meeting in
amstetten , lower austria. if there is anyone in the newsgroup who wants to
go there, he or she should contact me per e-mail to get nearer information.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Scale Model can anybody help me?
Date: 7-Sep-99 16:54:18 +1000
>Hi,
> Can anybody Please refer me to a web site or **anything** of the nature, as
>to where I can get a Back To The Future DeLorean, already Built Die cast
>metal car replica of the movie's time machine, ive been looking for this for
>years but found nothing ;( . By the way I don't mean that new J- Lightning
>"Hot Wheels" type replica, Im Looking for it, in at least as the size of the
>new Maisto "New Bug" replica So if anybody has any has any **phone numbers**
>or *Anything* with information on that, please do let me know :)
>
>Thanks a lot for your help
>A. Delorean Louver! XxPrimeX@aol.com
I know of a place here in Australia that sells the die cast BTTF DeLoreans,
as well as the plastic models, but be prepared to pay about $200 AUD for it
(approx. $130 USD). I'm not sure of the scale, but I know it's roughly twice
the size of a Matchbox car, yet smaller than the plastic BTTF model.
The place is called Sherriff's Mini Cars, and their phone number is 61 2
4721 5925. Or you could write to them at:
83 Henry St.
Penrith, NSW
2750
Australia
I'm pretty sure Sherriff's still have it (I think they had two of them),
because those sorts of things don't seem to sell very well...especially for
Ghostbusters figures, old TV show figures, Miami Vice models, Ghostbusters
II models, Alien models, original Star Wars figures, original Ninja Turtle
stuff, Coka Cola stuff, etc, etc.
Hope this helps :-)
Rick Haslewood,
Sydney Australia
www.zip.com.au/~delorean/
VIN 10599
UIN 4316376
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Subject: [DML] Re: roundabout question
Date: 7-Sep-99 4:25:29 -0400
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On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, BRUCE BENSON wrote:
> This statement isn't quite right and needs to be clarified. Actually a
> blow off valve is something used in the CART racing series cars. It
> limits turbo boost to the CART rules by opening, or blowing off, when
> a CART driver dials his boost higher than allowed by the CART rules.
What you are probably thinking of is a pop-off valve, which is different
from a blow-off valve. Sometimes a blow-off valve is called a bypass
valve, which I think is a better name for it because it doesn't really
blow off.
A pop-off valve is present on some high-boost cars as a safety feature for
preventing excess pressure from developing. It isn't needed on the
DeLorean because none of the DeLorean turbo kits generate enough boost to
need that sort of safety feature.
For more information on blow-off valves, see:
http://jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu/~rlg1/Preliminary.htm
or
http://www.retrosportusa.com/catalog/bp&bov/bp&bov.htm
> Our DeLorean turbos have what's called wastegates. These divert the
I agree with your description of the wastegates.
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Subject: [DML] Re: What is this I bought?
Date: 7-Sep-99 8:39:31 -0400
Ann & Ed Thompson wrote:
> The one that boggles my mind is the book, "DeLorean - Stainless Steel Illusion",
> Newport Press ISBN 0-930880-09-9. I have seen this out-of-print 160 page hardback
> book sell on eBay in the past for well over $300. BTW, this is an excellent book
> and should be on the required reading list of any DeLorean enthusiast.
Why does this boggle the mind?? This item cannot be had that easily.
> Another good publication that is still available at retail through the DeLorean
> Owners Association is the 172 page paperback Brooklands Books "DeLorean Gold
> Portfolio 1977-1995". This book is a collection of reprinted DeLorean articles
> originally published in magazines such as Road & Track and Car & Driver. DOA
> sells this book at retail on their web site for $24.95. I have seen this book
> represented on eBay as "rare", "out of print", and "hard to find", and selling
> for more than $50. This book should also be on your required reading list.
This item is also for sale on the www.amazon.co.uk I purchased it a few
weeks back from them. With the conversion rate (from Pounds to Dollars)
my final price was about $25.00, Same as the DOA.
> Another item you will frequently find on eBay is the "DMC" logo license plate.
> Also represented by eBay sellers as "rare" to "extremely rare", it has also sold
> for over $50. It is available new, at retail, from DeLorean Motor Company,
> Houston, on their web site for $12.95!
This one always annoys the heck outta me! I got mine at a car show 5
years ago for $6.00 I shoulda bough a whole case of them!
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Date: 7-Sep-99 7:35:26 -0600
Thank you. This past week with James Bond, BTTF and whether the D comes of
the DMC on the front logo has been rather inane, especially when one
considers just how many postings there were.
Dick
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Subject: [DML] Re: More-interesting-than-usual governor computer problem
Date: 7-Sep-99 8:42:56 -0500
Pete,
Check the plug going from the governor to the transmission on the passenger
side. (where it goes into the transmission) If this is misaligned, it will
cause the reverse lights to come on while in park and cause some of the
other problems you are having. Jack the car up and turn the key to the 'on'
position (red lights on dash come on) Your reverse lights will be on (being
in park of course) and then get up under the car and nudge the cable at the
transmission to the left, right, or towards the transmission. Have someone
looking at your reverse lights to let you know when they go out. You should
also have a bracket that holds the cable in place. If you don't, this is
probably the problem.
As far as rebuilt units, A friend of mine, who is an electrical engineer,
helped me rebuild mine. We went with stronger components and also removed
the circuit boards from the governor and mounted them in the compartment
behind the driver's seat. We did this due to the heat of the transmission
and the dirt and oil it collected. The unit is removable and easily
repairable if needed. So far, so good. We are looking to offer this unit
for sale soon. If you are interested, please let me know.
Thanks,
Duke
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Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 10:52 PM
Subject: [DML] More-interesting-than-usual governor computer problem
> 1) My back up lights are always on when the engine is in park, neutral, or
> reverse. They go out in Drive, 1, or 2.
>
> Pete Lucas
> VIN #6703
>
> P.S. -- Is any progress being made on a reengineered computer? Seems like
> it could be done pretty easily with a $6 PIC microprocessor and a few
bits.
> If anyone is actively working on this, I could probably help. Send me a
> note.
>
> --pete
>
>
>
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Subject: [DML] stupid question? let me know.
Date: 7-Sep-99 6:43:30 -0700
Heres a question I've wondered for a while, but thought it was
stupid....here goes. Has anybody ever added another door strut to the
doors? why not have 2 instead of 1. Would that make less effort for
the one already there and make the struts last longer? or would it
just wear the two out just as fast? I havent really looked at where
the 2nd strut would go, but do you think its possible? just wondering
erik
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Subject: [DML] front knocking
Date: 7-Sep-99 6:58:56 -0700
I posted this before but never got an answer. Whenever I turn right
really hard, the front left knocks a little bit in the wheel area. It
doesn't happen when I turn left. could someone shed some light?
Thanks!
Erik Geerdink
4512
EGGS D
(anxious for Cinncinati 2000!!)
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Subject: [DML] Blow-off vs pop-off
Date: 7-Sep-99 8:40:21 -0600
Both Wm Wilson and Bruce Benson are correct. But, they are talking about
two different things.
The blow-off valve is, as Bruce says, a boost limiter. It has been used
for years on race cars.
The pop-off valve is a relatively new item in the turbo world. It is, as
Wilson says, used to reduce the excess pressure that buils up between
shifts because of the throttle being closed. It is now offered as an
aftermarket piece by several performance equipment manufacturers. I know
of no one who has installed one (or two) on a DeLorean, but can think of no
reason why they couldn't be so installed.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Date: 7-Sep-99 8:41:20 -0600
I was fascinated by the strange and quirky problems described in this
posting. Then I noticed Pete's last name. Could it be that the curse
follows him and not the car?
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Subject: [DML] JZD, delorean.com and preliminary announcements
Date: 7-Sep-99 8:13:15 -0700
As of late I have been speaking with JZD once a week or so. Let me
assure everyone that he is fully behind the changes at the delorean.com
website as well as any messages coming from "newdelorean" at onelist.
To Claude, Ed and others that say there is no "new" delorean in the
works, it's precisely that kind of negativity that makes JZD want to
keep a lid on things. I'm told that it's been very difficult to get him
to release ANY info about the new car project, and the projects that
will lead to it.
James Espey
At 2:09 PM -0500 9/6/99, Watkins Family wrote:
>Let's get ONE person, elected by the list to be OUR representative who
>will keep in touch with Mr. Delorean so that any future announcements
>can be verified before it goes out to us all. Perhaps this way be can
>avoid more mystery and nonsense!!!!
>
>Repectfully
>
>Tom Watkins
>#5732
__________________________________________________
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Subject: [DML] Re: setting the radio clock
Date: 7-Sep-99 11:37:00 -0400
If your radio is like mine, there are two microscpically small holes in the
face of the radio unit, at about 3 and 9 o'clock. The left one sets hours;
the right one minutes. You'll need a sharp thin poker (perhaps an unfolded
paper clip), then poke in once for each number increase.
Good Luck!
Paul Feine, # 10944
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Subject: [DML] Super/Turbo Chargers
Date: 7-Sep-99 9:21:59 -0700
In the olden days, all we ever heard about, were "superchargers". I owned a 37 Cord for 4 years with a supercharger. It was shaft driven off the engine and had boost at ALL speeds.
Later they decided the exhaust of an engine could be made to run a blower to ram more air into the carbs for a lot less money. It was most peoples opinion "at that time", that it was a Mickey Mouse arrangement and not the REAL THING. Howe
I owned a 65 Corvair Corsa Turbo for quite a while. I STILL have the normally aspirated version Corvair. That Turbo was not worth much at low speeds as it depended on the RPM's of the engine to get up its boost. They were designed for
I have not owned a turbocharged De Lorean so I can't comment on those.
FWIW Department.
Murray
VIN:5962 Lic:DMC-XII
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<DIV>In the olden days, all we ever heard about, were "superchargers". I
owned a 37 Cord for 4 years with a supercharger. It was shaft driven
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<DIV>Later they decided the exhaust of an engine could be made to run a blower
to ram more air into the carbs for a lot less money. It was most
peoples opinion "at that time", that it was a Mickey Mouse arrangement and not
the REAL THING. However it DID work and many American and foreign cars
used the system and still do. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I owned a 65 Corvair Corsa Turbo for quite a while. I STILL have the
normally aspirated version Corvair. That Turbo was not worth much at
low speeds as it depended on the RPM's of the engine to get up its
boost. They were designed for 8 pounds of boost. Sometimes we
would watch the boost gauge while we revved up the engine and pop the
clutch for lower speed acceleration. I found that if floorboarded at 60MPH
it would almost set you back in the rear seat, but you could not get away with
driving that fast or faster. So it was pretty worthless. </DIV>
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<DIV>I have not owned a turbocharged De Lorean so I can't comment on those.
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Subject: [DML] "New Delorean" Thread - Asleep again
Date: 7-Sep-99 12:22:47 -0500
This one seems to come back up every couple of weeks. I like DMCJoe's
suggestion, 'm putting it back to sleep until something new and substantive
shows up in the media or on the delorean.com web. All that's going on here
is rumor-swapping.
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Date: 7-Sep-99 15:08:30 -0400
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At 8:41 AM -0600 9/7/99, raddad@cmn.net wrote:
>I was fascinated by the strange and quirky problems described in this
>posting. Then I noticed Pete's last name. Could it be that the curse
>follows him and not the car?
>
>Dick Ryan
>VIN 16867
>
Hmmm, good point. I guess I'll have to make sure that my next hobby doesn't
involve electricity.
Well, back to my warm beer...
-pete lucas
Prince of Darkness
VIN 6703
--pete
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Subject: [DML] De Lorean on T.V.
Date: 7-Sep-99 15:40:37 -0400
Yesterday I was just watching T.V. flipping through channels when my eyes were struck by a great looking De Lorean. It turns out it was a re-run of "Matlock" from 1988, where Don Knotts purchases a used De Lorean from a crooked car dealers
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Date: 7-Sep-99 13:24:45 -0700
I've noticed lately people talking about finding DeLorean items on websites such as eBay. I've used eBay for about two years and it can be a lifesaver looking for hard to find items. On the other hand I would have to say that something you
Speaking of good deals... I would suggest that anyone trying to find DeLorean books to go to their area antique malls and browse around. The most famed "DeLorean: Stainless Steel Illusion" appeared on a bookshelf while I was browsing. I pai
Also I'm in the Kansas City area going to college and would like to meet up with any DeLorean owners/enthusiasts in the area. Any emails would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Subject: [DML] DeLorean Motor Club?
Date: 7-Sep-99 16:51:36 -0400
I was at http://www.valzog.com/delorean and clicked on the link for the
DeLorean Club and it appears that they are gone.
A searchof the back issues shows that this club has had an, uh, unstable,
history. Is it still around?
Eric
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Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Scale Model can anybody help me ?
Date: 7-Sep-99 14:55:25 -0600
Hi there,
Well, if you want models of the plutonium chambered car and then with hover
conversioned car as film 2 then you can get these and the whitewalled+tracks
versions on:-
http://www.hlj.com/cgi-bin/hljlist3.cgi
Again if any of you could not get through the links for JZD's family or want
to see a 1/24 scale factory DMC-12 or even pictures of the aluminium
surround of the windscreen (now unpainted) on someone's nice DMC-12. All
these plus more can be found in the vault at:-
http://www.egroups.com/docvault/dmcnews/
Have fun!!!
Christopher M. Hawes
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Subject: [DML] Super/Turbo Chargers
Date: 7-Sep-99 14:13:25 -0700
Whenever the super vs turbo conversation comes up, I like to point to the
high performance world. Racing mechanics and engineers constantly try
anything and everything to get the maximum performance out of their cars.
Over the years the following has become apparent.
For great gobs of torque right from the get-go, it's superchargers. Check
out the drag machines.
For top end performance it's turbochargers. Check out the IRL, CART, F1, etc.
Each has it's advantages and disadvantages. Which is best is one of those
"it depends" answers.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867 (twin turbo)
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Subject: [DML] Autofest '99
Date: 7-Sep-99 17:21:29 -0400
I just wanted to take this opportunity to remind everyone about the Autofest
'99 car show to be held in Evansville, Indiana October 2-3. There should be
several DeLoreans there again this year as well as some really interesting
and rare gems like the Amphicar.
Check out their web site at:
www.myclassiccar.com
A group of DeLorean owners from the midwest, sorry guys can't remember your
group's name, has blocked off rooms at the Hampton Inn in Evansville. Their
number is 1-812-473-5000. Make sure you tell them you're with the DeLorean
group.
It should be a great time to discuss our favorite car, show them off, and see
some other great automotive classics. I hope to see you there.
Brian
VIN 1597
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Subject: [DML] Euro '99
Date: 7-Sep-99 17:26:03 -0400
Just wanted to let everyone know about another car show that will take place
on October 16 at the BMW factory in Greer, South Carolina. It's Euro '99,
and it's open to all European made cars. There's supposed to be a road rally
and tours of the plant, which manufactures the BMW Z3.
I've never been, but I'm looking forward to going this year. Check out their
website at:
www.eurocarshow.com
Brian
VIN 1597
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Subject: [DML] Re: front knocking
Date: 7-Sep-99 18:41:48 -0400
Could it be a tie-rod or a bushing?
Dave Loffler
Johnston, RI
VIN-WAITING
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Subject: [DML] DML and the BBC
Date: 7-Sep-99 16:49:37 -0600
For all of you who have access to the BBC television network the new series
of 'The Car's The Star' began last night (Wednesday) on BBC2 at 7.10pm
British time. The first 25 minute episode was about the Rolls Royce Silver
Shadow. Usually Quentin Willson makes a series of six, so the DMC-12 story
might be on as soon as next Wednesday or in another 5 weeks.
The British article that Quentin wrote, which has made everyone's hair on
the back of neck stand on end is at:-
http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk/Mirror%20Article.htm
I would like to point out that the vault is very well hidden and unless you
know it is as:-
http://www.egroups.com/docvault/dmcnews/
you could miss it.... If the egroups moderator could place a notice forward
to bring this and other egroups features to light so users know and don't
forget that they exist.
raising a glass to the D M C
Christopher M. Hawes
DMD (Delorean Model Dealership)
Manchester
Great Britain
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Subject: [DML] Re: front knocking
Date: 7-Sep-99 18:57:48 -0400
Hi Eric,
Your problem reminds me of the old joke, "Doc, my arm hurts when I move it this way. Doctors
response, "Don't move it that way":-)
Anyway, jack up the front end and put it on jack stands. Look on the inside edge of the
tires, does the inside of the tire look like it's rubbing something? If it does its probably
the sway bar. You may need to get it re-aligned.
Grab onto one wheel and move it side to side and also try to move it top to bottom. Hear any
clunking? Check the shock absorber, is it loose or broken? Maybe someone else can suggest
other things to check.
Dave Sontos
> Whenever I turn right really hard, the front left knocks a little bit in the wheel area. It
> doesn't happen when I turn left. could someone shed some light?
> Thanks!
>
> Erik Geerdink
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Subject: [DML] Re: I need some info on buying a Delorean
Date: 7-Sep-99 19:39:41 -0400
Chris Moore,
I too have been looking, My suggestion is to hang around this list, it is an
excellent source to learn about the "D". Also download DMC Houston's Check
list on their website. From what I have seen, a DeLorean under $10,000 is
probably a beater, at mid-teen $$$ you can get a nice vehicle if you are
patient. If you have $20,000 or more you can have your pick, but remember you
probably won't get a warranty unless you buy from one of the DMC Service
centers, and remember DeLoreans are approaching adulthood!
Dennis "Mike" Drake
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Subject: [DML] Owners and list members on Colorado?
Date: 7-Sep-99 17:47:24 -0600
Hello All!
Due to what appears to be a lack of Colorado (or even close states) having
DeLorean Clubs, I would like to set something like this up. If you are a
list member who is in Colorado (or someplace close), Please let me know. I
would love to work on getting all of us together. So far I know of only 2
list members who are also owners in the Colorado area (myself, and the Rad
Dad :) ).
Shoot me some e-mail at michael.babb@mindspring.com and I will work on
trying to set something up.
Thanks
Michael Babb
vin 3472
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Frame
Date: 7-Sep-99 19:54:51 -0400
I have heard of this "Frame Rust" problem in earlier threads and was
wondering, if you have to have a frame off restoration anyway can't you have
the frame welded up, ground smooth, dunked and them painted with Grey
Hammertone? We have a good frame welder in town who performs miracles with
a stick welder.
Dennis Mike Drake
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Subject: [DML] Re: NEW DeLorean
Date: 7-Sep-99 20:28:10 -0400
> juffo7@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Ed,
>
> Thank you or your response, it was most appreciated! Now that I have a
> clear prespective on things I have another question for you , if you
> don't mind :) I live in British Columbia,Canada and I would assume D's
> are only found in the U.S.
An incorrect assumption. DeLoreans are found all over the world, albeit
about 8,500 were built.
> My question, what is the first step to finding one? Is there any support
> or clubs or ANYTHING to do with Delorean's up here?
You might start with reading the archives of the DML (which is where
we are). Then take a look at DMC News, with links and all. There are
lots of support groups, links, and clubs.
How else can I help? (BTW, I have one for sale if you are interested.
I will arrange delivery to BC.)
Regards,
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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Subject: [DML] Delorean Sighting
Date: 7-Sep-99 20:50:13 -0400
Hey guys-
I just got back from vacation to find ~300 DML messages in my mailbox-
argh!
So if someone has already mentioned this.. oops!
I was just out in Auburn, Indiana for the annual collector car auction at
Kruse Auction Park- I saw two D's out there. The first was a rather
normal '81 D, the other was something to behold!
The sign said it was picked up at an auction in '84 from DMC's bankrupcy
overseer- a bank or whatever (I'm sure someone knows). It was an '81D
prototype with the sliding half-windows, gas flap, hood lines, NCT
goodyears, and no air vent on the rear quarter panel. The odometer read
.8 miles! Unfortunately, I became instantly stupid and forgot to take
down the VIN- duh. If the D trackers want to find out more about it-
VIN, how much it was auctioned for or to, etc, you can probably get that
information from Kruse- Don't ask me, I know no more than I've already
said... though I managed to remember to take a couple pictures.. If
anyone is interested I'll send a pic out when I get the roll developed...
I remember someone mentioning a sighting of such a car in a similar
situation a few years back on this mailing list; I'm not sure if it's the
same one...
Jim
VIN: 1..2..3..4..5 .... 12345! That's the combination on my
luggage!
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Subject: [DML] Re: De Lorean on T.V.
Date: 7-Sep-99 21:24:40 -0400
In a message dated 9/7/99 8:22:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, IVe099@aol.com
writes:
<< Yesterday I was just watching T.V. flipping through channels when my eyes
were struck by a great looking De Lorean. It turns out it was a re-run of
"Matlock" from 1988, where Don Knotts purchases a used De Lorean from a
crooked car dealership. Unfortunately his De Lorean turned out to be a
"lemon" >>
There was also a Delorean used in the made for TV movie, "Leave it to
Beaver",at the beginning of the movie they show a Delorean pulling up in
front of the Beavers house,and the doors rising and people getting out,I
don't remember if they used it anymore in the movie after that.
Claude
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Subject: [DML] Mississippi DeLorean
Date: 7-Sep-99 21:27:23 -0400
DML'ers,
In the Sunday Commercial Appeal, Memphis, an 81 DeLorean was listed for sale.
It is in Ripley, Mississippi. about 60 miles from Memphis. I called the
fella, and it has 17K miles, has been restored, took 1st place in a recent
car show. I will go see it this weekend, and report back. He wants $16,500,
but is willing to deal. He also has a Lamborgini replica, and a Vette for
sale, and says whoever buys all three will get a heck of a deal. The phone
number is 662-837-9615. I told him I would list this for him.
Jeff
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Subject: [DML] Re: ding rollout
Date: 7-Sep-99 20:53:50 -0700
I can tell you from experience - I had a garage door fall from its mount onto the top of
#10688 during a bad, Texas summer storm, several years ago. The damage to the T panel, door
tops, and trunk were substantial. Although I replaced the trunk lid as it was more economical,
Stephen's crew at DMC in Houston did such a fantastic job working out the dents, there is
absolutely no notice of the damage
Steve Brodsky
delorean502@excite.com wrote:
> i have a small ding in the passenger side rear quarter panel. It's
> right on the wheel well and very easy to get to without having to
> remove the panel. My question is: is there a way to roll that out
> myself? Its such a small ding, i would have to throw away $250 just to
> get it removed.
>
> erik
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Date: 8-Sep-99 0:59:28 -0400
The doors do not need two struts.....the torsion bar does most of the work.
No need to re-engineer something that works so good.
Keep the dream alive ans be safe.
Robert Starling
Vin#5252
----- Original Message -----
.
> Heres a question I've wondered for a while, but thought it was
> stupid....here goes. Has anybody ever added another door strut to the
> doors? why not have 2 instead of 1. Would that make less effort for
> the one already there and make the struts last longer? or would it
> just wear the two out just as fast? I havent really looked at where
> the 2nd strut would go, but do you think its possible? just wondering
>
> erik
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Subject: [DML] Searching for alternator
Date: 7-Sep-99 23:27:33 -0700
Hello,
who can tell me alternative types for the alternator/generator?
The original Motorola alternator was still built to June 1996 by the
French company Valeo, after Motorola gave up the alternator production
in Europe.
But now I can't unfortunately find a suitable alternator.
Ulli, #03857
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Subject: [DML] different tires
Date: 8-Sep-99 9:38:05 -0700
what would happen if i put the same tires on the front as that are on
the back? just curious. The front rims would have to be the same as
the back, wouldn't they?
erik
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Subject: [DML] Auto 0-60?
Date: 8-Sep-99 18:20:03 +0100
I'm after a couple of stats. Forgive me, but I've searched the archives
and although I've heard how the Auto is slower, I'm interested in how
much?
What is the 0-60 time for the Auto compared to the manual?
When cruising at, say, 80mph (or some other convenient figure) how do
the engine RPM's compare manual vs auto?
Cheers,
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Subject: [DML] Re: Dick Ryan are you there???
Date: 8-Sep-99 13:56:37 -0400
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On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Christopher Hawes wrote:
> I am also curious about the DMC-12 exhaust system. I know there is a
> system available which has larger tailpipes and gives a more throaty
> rasp to the engine note, I expect I will improve performance a little
> too, does anyone know if this was a DMC original related item and how
> much it costs I have heard rumour of around $3000.
You could get a kit including those properties for about that price. You
could probably even get a turbo thrown in too. :}
If you just want an exhaust upgrade you can expect up to about 10HP boost
and a little more noise, increase in power is usually proportional to
increase in noise of course. I'm not aware of any such exhaust kits but
you could reasonably get one made for just a couple hundred dollars - far
less than $3000.
> I would also like to know if engine noise throughout the Back To The Future
> films is the sound of the standard 130bhp 2.8 V6? It sounds more like a
> V8!!!!
It's dubbed in.
> I have noticed that there is a whine when reving/accelerating. Anyone know
> what causes the whining?
It could be some sort of gear whine, a small exhaust leak, a sign of a
bearing of some sort getting ready to fail, or any number of things...
does it occur in all gears and speeds as well as neutral or does it only
happen under some conditions?
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Date: 8-Sep-99 20:01:10 +0200
Hi Folks
Christopher Hawes wrote:
> I would also like to know if engine noise throughout the Back To The Future
> films is the sound of the standard 130bhp 2.8 V6? It sounds more like a
> V8!!!!
Well, I'm almost certain that the engine noise was added later. It doesn't
sound at all like a DeLorean, at least like no DeLorean I've ever heard.
Regards, Roland
E-Mail: roli@DeLorean.ch
VIN# 11512
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Subject: [DML] Re: Owners and list members on Colorado?
Date: 8-Sep-99 12:39:12 -0600
Hi!
Although I am in the Uk I know that Rich Cutter of Ace Conversions, is
putting a 4.6 Northstar V8 into the Delorean he recently bought from one of
Delorean's lawyers. He is aiming to have it ready for the fest in October.
He is based in Denver and his website and email are at:-
http://www.AmericanCustomEng.com/
I hope that makes you upto 3 now for your Colorado area!!!
I really like this one from Sweaty Eddy:-
To avoid a ticket say:- Argue that the ionization ratio in the zinc
component of the stainless steel caused accelerated reflection of the radar
beam relative to that of conventional automobile sheet metal resulting in an
approximate +15% error. Aint a lick of truth, or sense to it but I think the
judge just wanted me to shut up. I brought a few charts to with some
non-sensical chemical equations on them. I didn't have as good of luck when
the CHP airplane nailed me coming home from Lake Tahoe!
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Michael Babb" <michael.babb@mindspring.com>
Hello All!
Due to what appears to be a lack of Colorado (or even close states) having
DeLorean Clubs, I would like to set something like this up. If you are a
list member who is in Colorado (or someplace close), Please let me know. I
would love to work on getting all of us together. So far I know of only 2
list members who are also owners in the Colorado area (myself, and the Rad
Dad :) ).
Shoot me some e-mail at michael.babb@mindspring.com and I will work on
trying to set something up.
Thanks
Michael Babb
vin 3472
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Subject: [DML] Re: Different tires
Date: 8-Sep-99 13:48:33 -0500
Erik wrote:
>what would happen if i put the same tires on the front as that are on
the back? just curious. The front rims would have to be the same as
the back, wouldn't they?<
Erik - Not a good idea. The tire size, along with the rest of the
suspension package was designed and developed by the
best suspension people in the business - Lotus Engineering.
The tires were sized to give predictable handling given the
weight distribution of the car, the roll center, and the polar
moment of inertia. The results are quite good. Changing
the size of the tires on the front of the car to match the size
on the rear will tend to bias the handling from mild understeer
(which is what you want) to oversteer - the back end of the
car will tend to come around at the worst possible moments
like braking in a turn, lifting in a turn or anything else that
would unweight the rear of the car. You could potentially
have problems with brake bias as well. The same behaviour
would occur if you tried to make the rear tires the same size
as the front. The front end of the car, already high to begin
with will be even higher throwing off airflow and headlamp
aim, plus you will probably have some interference between
the tires and the front bodywork. Properly sized Yokohama
AVS Intermediate tires are available from places like the
Tire Rack for well under $100 per wheel shipped and
installed. There really isn't any reason to tamper with the
tire formulas until correctly sized tires are no longer available.
Mike Griese
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> I would also like to know if engine noise throughout the Back To The
Future
> films is the sound of the standard 130bhp 2.8 V6? It sounds more
like a
> V8!!!!
I wish my Delorean made all the cool sounds the BTTF D made. The
engine nooise is not from the Delorean, unless they did some mods to
it. or maybe my engine needs a tune up. I wish the doors sounded that
way too. although that might get annoying.
Does anybody know the cheapest way to get more horsepower out of the D?
add-on stuff, not fuel enhancer...we already beat that thread to
death.
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Subject: [DML] Seen & Not Heard...Dead Horn
Date: 8-Sep-99 15:36:10 -0400
Well, I'm back with another minor problem...
From one week to the next, my horn decided to stop working.
Suggestions? By the way...My D is really the only one I've ever driven, etc.
Is the horn supposed to sound so whimpy? It's sort of embarassing sitting
in a great looking car and hit the horn, only to hear a weak "Meep".
mATT
Thanks in advance for your help!!!!!
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Subject: [DML] Re: Searching for alternator
Date: 8-Sep-99 16:09:44 -0400
Ulli,
The DeLoreans also had a Ducillier alternator but it was replaced by the more
powerful and reliable Motorola. You can still get either alternator from one
of the DeLorean parts suppliers. Give PJ Grady, DMC Houston, or DeLorean One
a call. I'm sure any one of them would be glad to hook you up with a new
alternator.
Brian
VIN 1597
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Subject: [DML] Re: Searching for alternator
Date: 8-Sep-99 16:11:15 -0400
Ulli,
Rob from PJ Grady has a Delco digital 105 amp output alternator for sale to
replace the two different original alternator that came in the DeLorean.
This Delco unit "sits" in the same location with no alteration to the
original mounting brackets. All it need is a simple change to a wire to
accept the new terminal for the Delco alternator. It is a 15 minute
installation job once you lift up the car to get access to the alternator.
Kayo Ong
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Subject: [DML] How rare is originality?
Date: 8-Sep-99 16:23:53 -0400
Hi again. Yesterday my dad and I checked out or first D for sale. It was an
'82 that was TOTALLY original, including the Goodyears. The car was almost
perfect and very beautiful, of course his doors were sagging like crazy, as
you can imagine. Anyway, in the past decade of so, the guy has driven it a
few times a week, and never replaced anything. I guess that means it might
need some updates (?), but I was wondering, how common or uncommon is it to
find an original D like this with every single thing original?
Thanks!
~Rick
VIN- still looking in NJ
1955 Chevy Bel Air
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Subject: [DML] Dick Ryan are you there???
Date: 8-Sep-99 15:50:19 -0600
Dick, as a twin-turbo owner could you share with us your experiences on
reliablity, overheating, lag etc mpg cost and the rest of it? Do you you it
as an every day vehicle?
I am also curious about the DMC-12 exhaust system. I know there is a system
available which has larger tailpipes and gives a more throaty rasp to the
engine note, I expect I will improve performance a little too, does anyone
know if this was a DMC original related item and how much it costs I have
heard rumour of around $3000.
Also, how many of you owners out there and especially those who never intend
to sell their car have opted for a 100% stainless system as it will last
forever, albiet expensive initial outlay?
I would also like to know if engine noise throughout the Back To The Future
films is the sound of the standard 130bhp 2.8 V6? It sounds more like a
V8!!!!
I have noticed that there is a whine when reving/accelerating. Anyone know
what causes the whining?
Christopher M. Hawes
DMD (Delorean Model Dealership)
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Subject: [DML] trip... new friends
Date: 8-Sep-99 18:42:07 -0400
greetings...
i just took my '82 on her first major road trip (since i took delivery in
early august), from new liskeard, ontario, to whitby, ontario (approx 450 km
or 300 mi). she handled beautifully.. it was the most enjoyable trip to
see my family since i moved to northern ontario, 4 years ago.
while i was in whitby, i met a delorean enthusiast at taco bell. i forgot
to grab his name and email, but he told me that he was on the dmc-list.. so,
if he is out there, pls email me..
thanks..
<=-mike-=>
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Subject: [DML] eyebrows
Date: 8-Sep-99 18:45:24 -0400
i would assume the the d's "eyebrow" problem is caused by heat from the
high-beam and low-beam lights being on at once.. is there anyway from
preventing this, aside from not useing one's highbeams? is there any way to
fix this once it has started?? i am finding the beginnings of this problem
on my d, and would like to prevent any future damage, and fix what has
already occured..
thanks.
:)
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Subject: [DML] Cars sold after plant closed
Date: 8-Sep-99 16:15:17 -0700
Hi everyone,
One question that I've always been curious about is. How were the remaining
cars sold after consolidated took over since there was a reported 2000 plus
car inventory backlog I've heard of people still buying new cars as late as
1986 from dealers who either sat on them or just could,nt find the right
person to buy a car made buy a compny that no longer existed. Were they
sold
through the original dealer network or some other way? I also have heard
that many dealers dropped the car immediately after the shutdown and didn't
what anything to do with it. Is this true? What is the latest date you've
heard of someone buying a NOS delorean?
Thanks, Dennis ( 5180)
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Subject: [DML] delorean sounds
Date: 8-Sep-99 20:02:47 -0400
is there any way to make the delorean sound exacly like the one on bttf?
doors, engine, everything. write and let me know. money is no object.
chris
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Subject: [DML] RE:eyebrows
Date: 8-Sep-99 20:44:30 -0500
Mike Cutting wrote:
>i would assume the the d's "eyebrow" problem is caused by heat from the
>high-beam and low-beam lights being on at once.. ..
There is a detailed solution to this posted on the DMCNews tech section at:
http://www.dmcnews.com/techsection/fascia.htm
The trick is using small pieces of metal reinforcement, and 3M windshield
adhesive. It is very grippy yet still slightly flexible. I tried other glues
and they would just let go of the facia material.
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Subject: [DML] Re: eyebrows
Date: 8-Sep-99 20:49:33 -0500
> i would assume the the d's "eyebrow" problem is caused by heat from >the
high-beam and low-beam lights being on at once.. is there anyway >from
preventing this, aside from not useing one's highbeams? is there >any way
to fix this once it has started>
> mike
I heard that there is room to epoxy or glue a solid bar (aluminum?) in the
cavity above the headlights. I'd guess it would require removing the front
fascia. You can apply heat with a hair dryer and hold the eyebrow in place
until it cools. This is only a temporary fix but much easier than the first
suggestion.
Bruce Benson
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Subject: [DML] Re: Seen & Not Heard...Dead Horn
Date: 8-Sep-99 23:32:07 -0400
The factory horns are very prone to water damage. Take both units off and
throw them in the trash. Replacements are available from Pep Boys, NAPA,
etc. You will want to purchase two single post units one HIGH NOTE and one
LOW NOTE.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: UNCLEUMP@aol.com
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Seen & Not Heard...Dead Horn
> Date: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 3:36 PM
>
> Well, I'm back with another minor problem...
>
> From one week to the next, my horn decided to stop working.
> Suggestions? By the way...My D is really the only one I've ever driven,
etc. Is the horn supposed to sound so whimpy? It's sort of embarassing
sitting in a great looking car and hit the horn, only to hear a weak
"Meep".
>
> mATT
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Subject: [DML] Re: Searching for alternator
Date: 8-Sep-99 23:40:41 -0400
Don't even consider the Ducillier unless you would like to be left stranded
in your D with no electric power.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> The DeLoreans also had a Ducillier alternator but it was replaced by the
more
> powerful and reliable Motorola. You can still get either alternator from
one
> of the DeLorean parts suppliers.
>
> Brian
> VIN 1597
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: eyebrows
Date: 8-Sep-99 21:15:38 -0700
More than likely it is just from heat and old age. Unless they droop excessively, just think
of them as part of its character. My daughter says my D looks like me - droopy eyes and all -
course six years in the Marines, way to many beers, and one too many fights caused mine but
"what the hey".
steve brodsky #10688
Mike Cutting wrote:
> i would assume the the d's "eyebrow" problem is caused by heat from the
> high-beam and low-beam lights being on at once.. is there anyway from
> preventing this, aside from not useing one's highbeams?
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Subject: [DML] DOA Expo
Date: 9-Sep-99 2:20:16 -0500
This past week I happened to be in St Louis for a couple of days on
business. Since I'm planning on attending the upcoming DOA Expo, I figured
I'd use this opportunity to look around St Louis and also take a look at the
host hotel, the Regal Riverfront, and it's facilities. I actually stopped
one afternoon and spent some time at this hotel. It seems typical of most
large city downtown type business hotels. It is an older hotel which looks
like it has gone thru a remodeling in the last few years which seems to have
been very nicely done. The facilities seem typical for this type of hotel
with the normal swimming pools, game rooms, banquet rooms, restaurants and
lounge / bars thru out. I'm sure it is capable of handling all the events
scheduled by the DOA with no problem.
I did find out a few things that I thought some people planning on
attending this event should be aware of though. This hotel is located right
in downtown St Louis, with the Interstate and Arch grounds directly to the
East, office buildings directly to the North and a public parking garage
across the street to the West. When I pulled up in front of the hotel on a
circle drive-thru off the main city street, I was informed that the hotel
has NO local parking facilities and that all parking is across the street in
the 5 story public parking garage. You can't even park in the city street
out in front of the hotel because it's a bus stop. The hotel uses the street
/ entry level of this parking garage for hotel parking. Once parked, you
walk across the garage to an escalator which takes you down under the
street. You walk thru a tunnel over to the lower levels of the hotel and
then up two more escalators and across the lobby to the reception desk. It's
a pretty good hike. If you decide to unload your luggage at the hotel
entrance before going to the parking garage, I want to warn you to be very
careful when pulling back onto the city street. The ramp at the end of the
circle drive is very steep and one needs to be careful about dragging the
front end of the Delorean at the bottom of the ramp.
I also asked a few other questions about parking arrangements for the
Expo and was told: 1) the only parking they have available is in this garage
2) this garage can not accept trucks pulling trailers / car haulers ( these
rigs have to park in a lot under a bridge about 3-4 blocks away south of the
Arch grounds ) and 3) there is NO security supplied by the hotel for our
vehicles in the garage. Please note: This is a public garage which seems to
be used by many people working downtown during the day. Access to it is
un-restricted. I was informed by the hotel that if we wanted, they could
make arrangements to supply security for this event at an additional cost of
$600 per day. I understand from other Delorean owners that this is an option
the DOA has decided not to accept. Of course I guess if your flying in from
the West Coast, this is something that doesn't concern you.
Like I said, I'm still planning on attending this event. The only thing
that has changed for me is now I'm not driving my Delorean. It will stay
home in it's garage where I know it's safe. I was looking forward to getting
the Delorean out for the drive too. Oh well ! I'll drive the van or maybe
now I'll even look into air fare. I guess when you look at the schedule of
Expo events, you don't really need to have your car there. Almost all the
events are of a social nature and are held either at the host hotel or
within walking distance. The DOA has arranged bus transportation for many of
the other events.
Seems kind of funny though, another Delorean Expo I won't be taking my
Delorean too.
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Subject: [DML] Re: delorean sounds
Date: 9-Sep-99 1:01:50 -0700
--- DMCCHRIS@aol.com wrote:
> is there any way to make the delorean sound exacly
> like the one on bttf?
> doors, engine, everything. write and let me know.
> money is no object.
>
> chris
>
-Yes there is Chris,
Take some home movies of your car to a good post production sound
studio and they'll supe it right up for the right price.
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Hi any chance of getting a right hand drive model? could you give me an idea of the price/spec etc
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Subject: [DML] cooling fans
Date: 9-Sep-99 7:31:40 -0700
Hello,
I have been having trouble with my cooling fans, they would not come on
at all, so I wired up a override switch to the sensor. When the switch
is turned on the fans work, but about 30 seconds later they turn off,
even though the switch is on. After a minute or so they come back on.
Could this be a problem with a relay? I have installed the relay update
kit, but would fanzilla help this situation?
Any help would be apperaciated
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Date: 9-Sep-99 11:40:13 -0400
In a message dated 9/9/99 7:08:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DMCJOE@att.net
writes:
<< Don't even consider the Ducillier unless you would like to be left stranded
in your D with no electric power.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com> >>
I was wondering if you could (DMC JOE),or anybody else that knows to post a
diagram,on hooking up the wiring
for a GM alternator to a Delorean either on your web site or the DML Egroups
Vault page.
Claude
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Date: 9-Sep-99 8:51:00 -0700
Hello everyone,
I have a 81 D 5 speed with a Black interior, 41,xxx miles. I was
wondering if any automatic D owner would be intrested in a trade. If
anyone is interested e mail me privitly. At AJL521@aol.com
Andrew vin 4194
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Date: 9-Sep-99 10:38:50 -0700
I'm a bit in awe of the fact that there will now be many messages in the
archives that will be searched using my name. Wow, recorded for posterity!
Chris Hawes asked about experiences with the twin turbo set-up. Here's an
overview.
I've been drving twin turbo's since 1988. First on an 81 automatic and now
on an 83 manual. Between the two cars I have about 70,000 miles experience
with the Island Turbo kit.
I drove the 81, automatic, about 50,000 miles after the turbo installation.
I would not turbo an automatic again. It is hard to maintain the rpms
necessary to get the boost to make the turbos worthwhile. In order to make
best use of the turbos, I did a lot of "shifting" with the automatic.
This, in turn, may be why I had some transmission problems. Also, I had
the wastegates set at 7.5 lbs. That produced too much detonation. I did
put on an aftermarket knock sensor which would retard the timing when it
detected pinging, but I was never satisfied with it.
The 83 manual is a wholly different story. It is easy (and fun) to work
the gears to maintian the rpms necessary to go into boost almost instantly.
Yes, there is a little lag, but not too much since the IHI turbos are
quite small. I have these units set up at 6 lbs.
Overheating: that was a problem until I replaced the original radiator
with a brass, triple core unit (PJGrady). Now, I run as cool or cooler
that stock D's.
Sound: Yes, it sounds "like a V-8". It is a fairly low, throaty sound.
For some it might be a bit loud, but a resonator tip could lower the
decibels a bit more.
Mpg: Depends on how you drive it. I just finished a 4000 mile trip in two
weeks with some DeLorean friends. Drove a couple of days on Interstates @
80mph for hours. Then, drove in mountainous country for much more of the
time. I've thrown away my exact mpg calculations, but I think I averaged
23-25 mpg for the trip.
Are they worth the expense? If you really drive your car, especially out
on the open roads, I'd say absolutely yes. They turn the DeLorean into a
very competent road car.
If you only drive the car a 1000 or so miles per year as many seem to do,
then I'd probably say NO, unless you have money to throw away.
Hope that answers the turbo questions. Any other questions can be directed
to me privately at <raddad@cmn.net>
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Subject: [DML] Motor Trend 50th Anniversary Edition
Date: 9-Sep-99 11:14:48 -0700
Check this out!
The Motor Trend 50th Anniversary Collectors' Edition (Sept '99 sealed in
plastic wrap) not only has some pictures and text (inacurate) about the
Delorean, but a magnifying glass will reveal a special surprise. Page 152
has the write-up and a nice picture, page 102 has a nice picture, and page
70 has a picture of an orange/red '79 BMW M1 that looks very much like one
of our painted beauties. OK here is the surprise. With a magnifying glass
(or your eyes if they are better than mine), look on the front cover in the
middle of the page under the 'coll' in collectors'. It's too bad the picture
wasn't more clear. I could have turned this into a 'where's Waldo?' type of
deal or 'where is the Delorean' by saying "there are 3 pictures of a
Delorean, can you find them all?". I wonder if anyone else saw this? I
should get a gold star for this one.
P.S. I don't read magazines with a magnifying glass, I was looking closely
at the Porsche with all wheels off of the ground and thougtht "what is that
next to it under collectors?"
Greg Linstad
Pacific Northwest Delorean Club
Vin # 3507 116,000 + miles
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Subject: [DML] Re: delorean sounds
Date: 9-Sep-99 15:16:54 -0400
Well i dont know if alls true BUT what i have been told and seen, theres a
certain twin turbo kit, i cant remeber the name, that a friends friend of
mine had on his D, it gave the car a jet whine, but nothing to similar to
that of the BTTF DMC, other than that, stick with that sound studio tape
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Date: 9-Sep-99 15:49:30 -0400
The remaining cars were shipped to the US where they were auctioned off.
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Subject: [DML] Re: delorean sounds
Date: 9-Sep-99 16:50:59 -0500
> is there any way to make the delorean sound exacly
> like the one on bttf?
> doors, engine, everything. write and let me know.
> money is no object.
>
> chris
I know I'm not one to say anything seeing as I don't own a D yet, but why
couldn't you put some flowmasters on it, they helped add a deep sound to my
old mustang? I know the D is a rear engine car and all but I figure there
has to be someway to put them on.
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Subject: [DML] Re: brochures
Date: 9-Sep-99 22:04:55 +0000
While in New Hampshire a few months ago, I bought a "brocheure" type of
book
> Any ideas on where it came from and what its value is???
> Dave L.
I have several hundred of these, perfect condition, for $35 each plus $3
postage.
Darryl Tinnerstet
Specialty Automotive
4 LaBelle Lane
McCleary, WA 98557
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Subject: [DML] Re: different tires
Date: 9-Sep-99 16:05:08 -0600
This other point was not mentioned.... If you upset the setup (Wheel sizes)
provided by Lotus you will be in B I G trouble if you rolled your car as if
it lands on the roof you are screwed. (Gullwings won't open)
With the setup as is you can roll the DMC as many times as you like and
providing it is on flat ground it will land back on its wheels EVERY single
time. I know due to the low slung stance that this would be a hard thing to
do but even so it should never be a point to be ignored.
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Date: 9-Sep-99 22:20:08 +0000
Richard, there are several DeLoreans in BC. One owner you might want to
contact is Jan Elgersma, at 2netym@vxl.imag.net. He is a member of our
large and active Pacific Northwest DeLorean Club, based in the Seattle area.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Seen & Not Heard...Dead Horn
Date: 9-Sep-99 18:51:35 -0400
I love the horn, It sounds like The Road runner in those cartoons, The
service guy suggested we have the horn Alto and Basso horns so i guess it
shouldn't sound like ours does but i really dont know fro sure
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Subject: [DML] Re: 5th gear
Date: 9-Sep-99 19:51:53 -0400
While driving along in fifth it will sometimes kick out of gear on it's own.
How serious of a fix is this?
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Subject: [DML] JZD's autobiography
Date: 9-Sep-99 20:16:09 -0400
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OK, Borders can't get it, amazon.com can't get it, dmcnews.com no longer
sells it...any ideas/suggestions as to where I can buy JZD's
autobiography?
Thanks!
--Sandro
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Subject: [DML] Re: Searching for alternator
Date: 9-Sep-99 20:51:33 -0400
Don't know where I got this info so use care but here it is:
Ralph Vin 1606
Two terminal plug: Spade connectors work well on these.
Pin 1. Connect the brown and yellow wire from the idiot light.
Pin 2. Connect a short jumper to the Batt. (alternator output) terminal.
Batt. (alternator output). Connect the three? big brown wires that were
connected to the output terminal of the previous alternator.
Four terminal plug: This is the newer Delco alternator with internal
regulator. It would probably be advisable to get a plug with pigtails
and splice the wires.
Terminal L: Connect the brown and yellow wire from the idiot light.
Terminal S: Connect a short jumper to the Batt. (alternator output)
terminal.
Terminal F: Not used
Terminal P: Not used
Batt. (alternator output). Connect the three? big brown wires that were
connected to the output terminal of the previous alternator.
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Subject: [DML] Re: JZD's autobiography
Date: 9-Sep-99 20:59:54 -0400
Sandro,
Call Aaron's Free Booksearch at 1-800-428-0087. They got me a copy of the
DeLorean autobiography as well as some other DeLorean books. They can find
almost any book you are looking for.
Brian
VIN 1597
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Date: 9-Sep-99 21:05:37 -0400
Try watching Ebay.com
Ralph vin1606
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Subject: [DML] Fuel Ecomony
Date: 9-Sep-99 20:11:53 -0500
I've been searching around in spec manuals and archives with no luck.
WITHOUT single or twin turbo's, in other words..stock.. does anyone know the
approximate BEST mpg that D's get? I had thought optimum would be around
35mpg. Perhaps that's a bit much, maybe too less! Look foward to comments.
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Subject: [DML] JZD's autobiography
Date: 9-Sep-99 19:25:52 -0600
I not only own a D, but I also own a bookstore. So, first, let me get this
off my chest: Borders CAN get it and Amazon CAN get it - - they don't want
to. It isn't cost effective. That's the way the big chains operate.
Go to your local independent bookstore and ask for an "out of print" book
search - and give them the title. The search costs nothing (occasionally
you'll find a store that charges $1 for the service). When they locate a
copy they will inform you as to condition and cost. Then, it's up to you.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Subject: [DML] Fuel Economy
Date: 9-Sep-99 19:35:01 -0600
The question of BEST mileage a DeLorean gets is strange. What is best?
Best under NORMAL driving conditions, or under conditions where you are
trying for BEST mileage? Then, Manual or Automatic (automatic has a higher
final gear ratio - thus poorer mileage).
The highest reports I've heard from people I trust is 28 mpg on trips at
honest speed limit speeds.
I'm sure others will have different answers.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Subject: [DML] Re: cooling fans
Date: 9-Sep-99 20:46:57 -0500
the fans work, but about 30 seconds later they turn off,
> even though the switch is on. After a minute or so they come back on.
> Thanks
> Andrew vin 4194
One of the two circuit breakers is bad. We experianced the same problem with
one of the DeLoreans on the recient 'Canada tour'.
Bruce Benson
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Date: 9-Sep-99 20:04:12 -0600
For what it is worth: I just dug out the ORIGINAL window sticker for VIN
16867. The EPA required fuel economy rating for a 1983 DeLorean with the
manual transmission is shown at 21 mpg.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Subject: [DML] A source for JZD's autobiography
Date: 10-Sep-99 0:00:07 -0400
I saw the message where someone asked if anyone knew of a source for the
John DeLorean autobiography. I have some copies of this book. They are new
old stock books, in the publisher's shipping carton. They came with two
books sealed together in shrink wrap. I would sell them that way, in sets of
two, or as a single book removed from this packaging. Anyone interested in a
book or two may e-mail me at DDL52@aol.com
Dennis
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Subject: [DML] Re: cooling fans
Date: 10-Sep-99 1:04:40 -0400
Your cooling fan circuit breaker needs to be replaced. Order part # 106086G
from your favorite DeLorean parts supplier.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] cooling fans
> Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 10:31 AM
>
> Hello,
> I have been having trouble with my cooling fans, they would not come on
> at all, so I wired up a override switch to the sensor. When the switch
> is turned on the fans work, but about 30 seconds later they turn off,
> even though the switch is on. After a minute or so they come back on.
> Could this be a problem with a relay? I have installed the relay update
> kit, but would fanzilla help this situation?
> Any help would be apperaciated
> Thanks
> Andrew vin 4194
>
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Date: 10-Sep-99 1:27:48 -0400
Connect the large brown wires to the alternator output post. The
brown/yellow
wire is connected to terminal # 1. The brown wire next to this wire is not
used. Finally connect a short jumper wire between terminal # 2 and the
alternator output post. Be sure to dissonect the red positive wire from the
main battery while making these connections.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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>
> I was wondering if you could (DMC JOE),or anybody else that knows to
post a
> diagram,on hooking up the wiring
> for a GM alternator to a Delorean either on your web site or the DML
Egroups
> Vault page.
>
>
> Claude
> Vin#10554
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Date: 10-Sep-99 1:29:50 -0400
Unfortunately this is serious. You will need to have the transmission
removed and serviced to repair the problem.
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> Subject: [DML] Re: 5th gear
> Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 7:51 PM
>
> While driving along in fifth it will sometimes kick out of gear on it's
own.
> How serious of a fix is this?
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On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 Ninniez@aol.com wrote:
> While driving along in fifth it will sometimes kick out of gear on it's own.
> How serious of a fix is this?
Probably just needs the linkage adjusted. That's a very non serious fix.
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>The remaining cars were shipped to the US where they >were auctioned off.
Sorry, not quite correct. The bulk of the remaining cars were certainly sent to Consolidated in Columbus Ohio, but there were quite a few hundred cars sold at auctions in the UK (British Car Auctions). Also, the receiver sold new cars to
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Date: 10-Sep-99 8:28:21 +0000
Fuel economy is generally reported between 16 and 22 mpg. The original
window sticker said 19. I have heard people say they have gotten as
much as 30 mpg. The most interesting story was a guy who installed a
Floyd? carberator from the 50"s and got 30 mpg. He was technical
enought that a really believe his numbers. He was at the Cincinatti
show.
BTW, this Floyd? guy is the one that was misteriously kidnapped and
killed in the Everglades after he anounced he was going to mass produce
the carberator. Check the news paper from around 1954, its a true
story.
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Date: 10-Sep-99 15:52:34 +0100
Do you know of any deloreans for sale in th uk?
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Date: 10-Sep-99 9:51:42 -0700
just a quick question:
i have some cracks in my dash, i was wondering if anybody out there has
fixed the cracks on their own and how. thanks
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Subject: [DML] headliners
Date: 10-Sep-99 10:18:38 -0700
the actual foam part of my headliners above the driver and passenger
and coming off. the "buttons" that hold them up broke thru the
material and now the foam, not the cloth, but the foam underneath the
cloth is coming down. does anybody know a good way to fix it, or
better yet, does anybody know where i could get this fixed? thanks for
you help..it is always appreciated!
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Subject: [DML] Re: NCT Tires
Date: 10-Sep-99 13:54:35 -0500
The sets of tires that were show in BTTF were goodyear NTCs
Note to moderator, If my post does not make the list then perhaps I
shouldn't have seen the message i am replying to.
Were the tires on the BTTF
> DeLorean NCTs? Thanks.
>
> Ryan Arsenault
>
> >
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Date: 10-Sep-99 15:59:36 -0400
Just got my ballot for the DOA board. It is unclear how many people sit on the board, what control they have and background information on the candidates [it seems like a lot of couples (only four out of 16 aren't married/related to someon
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Date: 10-Sep-99 18:55:36 -0400
My headliners did the same thing with the foam deteriorating. I tried to fix
it and messed it up. I took it to a good uphostery sop and for $40 each side
they did a beautiful job of replacing it. Don't try it yourself
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Subject: [DML] Low Bluebook Value...
Date: 10-Sep-99 19:37:29 -0400
What is the low Bluebook value of a 81 DeLorean? I wasn't
aware that lenders require that information, and apparently one
I am trying to work with does not have it. Does it vary from
car to car, or is it pretty standard? Does anyone have an
approximate value?
Thank you for any help,
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Date: 10-Sep-99 21:44:37 -0400
The foam was actually attached to the headliner material from the factory.
Over the years the foam has basically dried out and turned to powder. There
really is no way to just replace the foam. Any automotive interior shop
should have a good selection of headliner material with a pretty good match
color wise. Use 3m brand spray adhesive to attach the new material. Once
you have tha adhesive on the two sides take a piece of masking tape and put
it over the buttons . This will prevent the buttons from showing thru the
new headliner.
Robert
VIN 3309
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Date: 10-Sep-99 15:57:15 -1000
Erik, I got mine from DMC Houston. Aloha, Thom Smithson
VIN #3089
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From: delorean502@excite.com <delorean502@excite.com>
To: dmcnews@egroups.com <dmcnews@egroups.com>
Date: Friday, September 10, 1999 12:22 PM
Subject: [DML] headliners
>the actual foam part of my headliners above the driver and passenger
>and coming off. the "buttons" that hold them up broke thru the
>material and now the foam, not the cloth, but the foam underneath the
>cloth is coming down. does anybody know a good way to fix it, or
>better yet, does anybody know where i could get this fixed? thanks for
>you help..it is always appreciated!
>
>erik geerdink
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: headliners
Date: 11-Sep-99 0:16:13 -0400
Hello all,
I was able to get the door headliners recoverd at a upholstry shop in the
chicago area called Riggs Brothers for around $50 for both! I carried them in
and they were able to match up the color, and they look as good as new the
same day! For the readers in the chicago area, i know Riggs Brothers has
atleast 6 locations or so. Im sure that most upholstry shops can recover the
headliners, make sure to leave the fabric on, as it helps when picking the
new color.
The Delorean parts suppliers also offer that service, and with them you are
sure that the color will be exact.
Just my $0.02
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Subject: [DML] Re: headliners
Date: 11-Sep-99 1:10:41 -0400
The DeLorean headliners are no different than other foam backed products
used in most domestic and import cars. Just bring your DeLorean to any
competent upholstery shop and they should be able to make your headliners
factory new. You should expect to pay $250 to $350 for all four sections.
If you want the job to look right, don't attempt to do it yourself.
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> Subject: [DML] headliners
> Date: Friday, September 10, 1999 1:18 PM
>
> the actual foam part of my headliners above the driver and passenger
> and coming off. the "buttons" that hold them up broke thru the
> material and now the foam, not the cloth, but the foam underneath the
> cloth is coming down. does anybody know a good way to fix it, or
> better yet, does anybody know where i could get this fixed? thanks for
> you help..it is always appreciated!
>
> erik geerdink
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Subject: [DML] overheated Delorean
Date: 10-Sep-99 22:30:11 -0700
if you havent seen the picture of the Overheated Delorean in the Vault
yet, go check it out, but its not for the weak at heart. how does
something like this happen?
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Date: 10-Sep-99 22:33:49 -0700
after seeing the pic of the over heated D...now I'm scared. I
attempted to change the spark plugs on my Delorean today. as many know
the first 5 are a piece of cake, until you have to get to the one
underneath all the hoses. well, i attempted and I couldnt get the coil
back on the spark plug. can anybody give me some advice on how to do
it. I cant reach in there. a more serious question: I drove it
around the block to see if i did indeed get the cap back on. I smelled
fumes. I pulled into my garage and noticed i had a trail of gas behind
me. i opened the engine compartment and there was gas by the three
spark plus on the left and up near the distributor area. could i have
loosened a line or something? please help me. I dont want my Delorean
to look like that other one that was burned. thanks
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Subject: [DML] DeLorean Screensavers?
Date: 11-Sep-99 2:31:39 -0400
I made my own simple D screensaver with a Create-A-Saver that I had with
pictures I've gathered. I was wondering if anyone actually had any "real" D
screensavers?
Thanks,
Rick
VIN- still looking in NJ
1955 Chevy Bel Air
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Subject: [DML] Re: UK purchase
Date: 11-Sep-99 1:43:20 -0600
Hi John,
Do you know of the UK DOC (Delorean Owners Club) at:-
http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk/
Find the contacts page and phone Dave Howarth he always has a list of cars
currently for sale in the UK.
Also try ebay.com and type Delorean in the search engine. This virtual
auction has a London left-hooker for sale. Dave also has this one down on
his for sale list.
Goodluck, by the way which part of the country do you live, John?
Christopher M. Hawes
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Subject: [DML] Re: Low Bluebook Value...
Date: 11-Sep-99 8:34:58 -0400
> RJRavalli@aol.com wrote:
>
> What is the low Bluebook value of a 81 DeLorean? I wasn't
> aware that lenders require that information, and apparently one
> I am trying to work with does not have it. Does it vary from
> car to car, or is it pretty standard? Does anyone have an
> approximate value?
Any reputable lender will want to know the value.
According to the most recent N.A.D.A. price guide the value of
a '81, '82, or '83 DeLorean is:
"Low Retail: $9250", "High Retail: $17800". Quite a spread, but in
reality the spread is even greater. Roughly from a few thousand
to over $50K!
On a car like a DeLorean most lenders will want to personally
examine the car and also get an independent appraisal from a
qualified "special interest" vehicle appraiser.
Regards,
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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Subject: [DML] Re: headliners
Date: 11-Sep-99 9:58:11 -0400
I did mine myself without too much trouble. Once you have your new material, take the old
cloth off the headliner panel, (or as much will come off in one piece) and use it as a pattern
for cutting out your new piece. Don't expect the foam backing to come off with the fabric,
you'll probably have to scrape that off later.
After applying the 3M Super Strength 99 glue (make sure to buy that kind!!) to the now
bare door headliner board, start pushing the new piece of fabric down in the center and work
your way out. Be careful that the new fabric doesn't fold over itself in the recessed area on
the board. You can avoid this by stretching the fabric carefully at the appropriate places.
Total cost for the entire roof is about $20 depending on where you get your fabric.
I am not compensated in any way to endorse 3M products, it's just that if you don't use
this particular brand (available at home goods stores) your headliner will fall back down
after a few months. This 3M stuff is STRONG...it's holding my side view mirror on right now!!
Good luck,
Josh
VIN 5102
CatfishEd@aol.com wrote:
> My headliners did the same thing with the foam deteriorating. I tried to fix
> it and messed it up. I took it to a good uphostery sop and for $40 each side
> they did a beautiful job of replacing it. Don't try it yourself
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Subject: [DML] Any RI owners???
Date: 11-Sep-99 10:44:27 -0400
Hello all.
Just wondering if there are any Rhode Island owners of D's. I've seen plenty
in my "other" home state (WA-moving back ASAP). But have seen DeLoreans for
sale in Auto Trader every now and then. IF any are on this list, please let
me know!
Dave Loffler
Johnston, RI (near Prov.)
VIN-WORKING
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Date: 11-Sep-99 8:27:01 -0700
In-reply-to: <7RCPJTA70Q>
At 10:33 PM 9/10/99 -0700, you wrote:
>after seeing the pic of the over heated D...now I'm scared. I
>attempted to change the spark plugs on my Delorean today. as many know
>the first 5 are a piece of cake, until you have to get to the one
>underneath all the hoses. well, i attempted and I couldnt get the coil
>back on the spark plug. can anybody give me some advice on how to do
>it. I cant reach in there. a more serious question: I drove it
>around the block to see if i did indeed get the cap back on. I smelled
>fumes. I pulled into my garage and noticed i had a trail of gas behind
>me. i opened the engine compartment and there was gas by the three
>spark plus on the left and up near the distributor area. could i have
>loosened a line or something? please help me. I dont want my Delorean
>to look like that other one that was burned. thanks
>
>erik geerdink
>
>
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Hello Erik,
Yes to all your questions. The fuel system is a high pressure situation and
"ANY" gasoline in the engine compartment can mean a FIRE! Don't even think
about starting your D until you get all the fuel lines re seated, wash out
the whole compartment and dry it out before starting the D again..
To seat the spark plug wire, get it on the plug and slide your hand down
the wire to the plug pushing and letting it slip through your fingers as
you go, you will feel a slight snap as the cap slips over the plug top
connector.
Erik, for GOD's sake be carful!
Lee
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Subject: [DML] Re: help me PLEASE
Date: 11-Sep-99 13:37:42 -0400
Easier said than done on plugs # 4 & 5 !
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> Subject: [DML] Re: help me PLEASE
> Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 11:27 AM
>
> To seat the spark plug wire, get it on the plug and slide your hand down
> the wire to the plug pushing and letting it slip through your fingers as
> you go, you will feel a slight snap as the cap slips over the plug top
> connector.
>
> Erik, for GOD's sake be carful!
>
> Lee
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Subject: [DML] Super Glue
Date: 11-Sep-99 16:03:45 -0400
> Josh Haldeman wrote:
>
> I am not compensated in any way to endorse 3M products, it's just
> that if you don't use this particular brand (available at home goods
> stores) your headliner will fall back down after a few months.
> This 3M stuff is STRONG...it's holding my side view mirror on right now!!
Speaking of gluing and later falling off again, this keeps happening
to the weather stripping on my hood. What is recommended for that?
Will the 3M Super Strength 99 do the job?
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
Midlothian, VA
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Subject: [DML] Re: Any RI owners???
Date: 11-Sep-99 16:41:33 -0400
hello! I am wondering if there are any delorean owners in the Dallas area.
But it would even be beteer if there are any in the plano area. thanks for
your time.
chris
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Subject: [DML] Changing out the belts
Date: 11-Sep-99 18:10:10 -0400
I'm going to change on the belts this weekend due to a cracked
alternator belt. Are there any tricks I should know before I doing
this? As to the belt tension and the best way to get leverage to tighten
everything back down?
Jim
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Subject: [DML] Kill Switch
Date: 11-Sep-99 18:13:03 -0400
I'm thinking about putting a kill switch in the car. Maybe somewhere
under the hood since I have to put my car cover in there any ways..
What would be best way to do this . A switch on the starter or something
maybe coming off the fuel pump?
Jim
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Subject: [DML] Turbo and Audio
Date: 11-Sep-99 18:33:29 -0400
Dear, DMC-12 drivers:
Hello, I have been reading for this mailing for 2 years. Anyway,
it is my first time to ask questions.
Does anyone buy and set the turbo on D from A-1 TURBO Industry
Inc.?
http://www.a1turbo.com/delor.htm
They are salling the IHI turbo kid for under $1000 instead of $5000 from DMC
specialized shops. Also, is anyone using the IHI turbo on this list? I would
hear any experiences.
I hear that we need to cut some place to install a car stereo
unit. How can you done?
Thanks for helping.
Blacknight
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Subject: [DML] Mississippi DeLorean
Date: 11-Sep-99 18:56:28 -0400
DML'ers,
This is a follow up to the original post. I had an opportunity today to get
down to see this DeLorean. It is Vin# 2701, August 81. It is a 5 speed with
the black interior, and both the hood lines, and the gas flap. The car is
showing just over 17K miles, but has evidently had angle drive problems.
This car does not have the update spray paint in the engine well, still has
the Ducillier Alternator, and seems to be riddled with the standard
electrical problems. It has Firestone tires, relatively new, but the tread
on the front and back do not match. The dash has a crack above the glovebox,
that has been repaired by an amateur. The stereo is a cheapie. This car has
the antenna in the windshield, but someone had at one time added the power
antenna, that has since broken and has lost parts. The front facia has some
SERIOUS eyebrows. The normal "hot start" problems exist. Thats the bad news.
The good news is that the body is perfect! The doors lift all the way up
with authority, and the headliners are in good shape. I was impressed that
it has been sitting outside and is not full of water, of course, it hasn't
rained around here in a loooong time. The rear lens have been recently
replaced.
The fella that owns the car is named Jimmy. His phone number is
662-837-9615. He will take considerably less than the $16,500 he is asking.
If you want more info, please e-mail me directly or give me a call at
901-853-8341.
Jeff Cox
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Screensavers?
Date: 11-Sep-99 18:58:01 -0400
In a message dated 9/11/99 9:53:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Amazinrick@aol.com writes:
<< I made my own simple D screensaver with a Create-A-Saver that I had with
pictures I've gathered. I was wondering if anyone actually had any "real" D
screensavers? >>
Go to Http://Members.tripod.com/~Phoenix007/Index.html under Homepage
Directory search for Delorean "95" Desktop Theme,Click on that then just
follow directions to download.Hope that helps.
Claude
Vin#10554/6383/000570
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Subject: [DML] fuel pump? please help!
Date: 11-Sep-99 16:41:25 -0700
ok, heres the deal. I posted a letter yesterday saying fuel was
spraying in my Delorean. not a good sign, i know. i looked at it
today to see where it was spraying. Dumb idea? I know but i had to see
where it was coming from. dont worry, i had a hose next to me with
lots of water coming out just in case. you know the upper center of
the engine looking down there is something with all those hoses coming
from it? (i dont know what its called, someone please tell me :) )
well it was spraying out towards the fire wall inbetween that and
whats underneath it. A LOT of gas....a lot! could someone tell me
what needs to be fixed? i need some help. I really dont want to send
it to the people down the street that can fix it, but HATE deloreans
more than a punch in the face. any advise would be great.
erik geerdink
vin 4512....not burned!
plate EGGS D
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Screensavers?
Date: 11-Sep-99 18:12:59 -0600
Brings up an interesting idea....Would anyone be interested in a Windows 95/95 Theme (background, icons, etc)? I wouldn't mind working on a theme if I have enough interest.
Michael Babb
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Subject: [DML] DeLorean Screensavers?
I made my own simple D screensaver with a Create-A-Saver that I had with
pictures I've gathered. I was wondering if anyone actually had any "real" D
screensavers?
Thanks,
Rick
VIN- still looking in NJ
1955 Chevy Bel Air
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Subject: [DML] frame problems
Date: 11-Sep-99 18:19:11 -0700
during my search of a delorean, i spoke with a man who
was selling his. while decribing the vehicle, he advised
that the frame had been repaired and renforced, as to mean
that this was a positive aspect of the vehicle. the man
then went on to say that deloreans have problems with the
frame that develope over time.
is there any truth to this possible frame problem. where
would one look on the delorean to see if a potental car to
buy has this dreaded problem. i am most likley taking a
trip to look at a 82 d next week and would like to know if
this type of problem does realy exist and where to look.
also if nayone car offer info on what to look at of
consider on a 5 speed d when looking to buy, please give
some sugestions.
thanks
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Date: 11-Sep-99 21:09:43 -0600
> http://www.a1turbo.com/delor.htm
>They are salling the IHI turbo kid for under $1000 instead of $5000 from DMC
>specialized shops. Also, is anyone using the IHI turbo on this list? I would
>hear any experiences.
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You know what they say - - if it sounds to good to be true, it is! IHI are
the turbos used on the twin turbo kit. What these folks are selling is
rebuilt/remanufactured turbos - not a turbo kit. In other words, when
your IHI turbos are worn out, you can get rebuilt ones from them for about
$800 each. They don't sell the manifolds, the piping, brackets,
mufflers,etc. etc.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Subject: [DML] Re: Kill Switch
Date: 11-Sep-99 23:18:46 -0400
You already have a kill switch built into the car, it's your inertia
switch. Just pull the plunger up when leave the car and push it back down
when you return.
Labor time: 0, parts 0.00.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> Subject: [DML] Kill Switch
> Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 6:13 PM
>
> I'm thinking about putting a kill switch in the car. Maybe somewhere
> under the hood since I have to put my car cover in there any ways..
> What would be best way to do this . A switch on the starter or something
> maybe coming off the fuel pump?
>
> Jim
>
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From: FLUFFY@SMTP (William T Wilson) {fluffy@snurgle.org}
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Subject: [DML] Re: frame problems
Date: 11-Sep-99 23:23:24 -0400
In-reply-to: <7REV2FAKLF>
On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 RICKAYE@webtv.net wrote:
> is there any truth to this possible frame problem. where
The problem with the frames is rust. The frames are epoxy coated which
was designed to seal the ordinary steel frames inside the epoxy and keep
out all moisture. Unfortunately this design didn't work well in practice
as the epoxy cracks and allows water in. Then it makes things worse as
the epoxy actually traps water inside it, in contact with the frame. It
would have been better if they had just painted or undercoated the frames
like everybody else, but that's not what they did.
Other than rust there are no structural weaknesses or deterioration to
watch out for, unless the car has been in an accident.
I think www.pearce-design.com has pictures of rusted vs. non-rusted frames
under the "permaframe" section - as does dmc houston at www.usadmc.com.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Changing out the belts
Date: 11-Sep-99 23:58:38 -0400
The AC belt has a tension adjuster, Parts Manual 7 / 2 / 1 item # 17. This
allows easy adjustment of the AC belt. CAUTION: Do not over tighten the
pulley mounting bracket bolts, items # 4.
The alternator has no adjuster so you will have to use some brute force.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: Jim <starbuck@gate.net>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Changing out the belts
> Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 6:10 PM
>
> I'm going to change on the belts this weekend due to a cracked
> alternator belt. Are there any tricks I should know before I doing
> this? As to the belt tension and the best way to get leverage to tighten
> everything back down?
>
> Jim
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: frame problems
Date: 11-Sep-99 21:24:10 -0700
In-reply-to: <7REV2FAKLF>
autodoc5-@aol.com wrote: The majority of structural frame problems
occur if front the front lower control arms . check the area from the
radiator support back to the lower control arms. if this area rust out
the lower control arms lose the ability to stay centered,it can be
fixed though as i have done two myself. hope this helps.
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=2951
> during my search of a delorean, i spoke with a man who
> was selling his. while decribing the vehicle, he advised
> that the frame had been repaired and renforced, as to mean
> that this was a positive aspect of the vehicle. the man
> then went on to say that deloreans have problems with the
> frame that develope over time.
> is there any truth to this possible frame problem. where
> would one look on the delorean to see if a potental car to
> buy has this dreaded problem. i am most likley taking a
> trip to look at a 82 d next week and would like to know if
> this type of problem does realy exist and where to look.
> also if nayone car offer info on what to look at of
> consider on a 5 speed d when looking to buy, please give
> some sugestions.
> thanks
> officedr rick
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Mississippi DeLorean
Date: 11-Sep-99 23:00:39 -0700
JCox4001@aol.com wrote:
> The front facia has some
> SERIOUS eyebrows.
I've heard this expression before, but still have no clue what it refers
to. :-) Could you please explain to me what it means for a Delorean to
have "eyebrows"?
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Jesse D. Sightler
http://www.biddin.com/
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Subject: [DML] Re: UK purchase
Date: 12-Sep-99 9:54:52 +0100
Could anyone email me a list of deloreans currently onsale in the UK, I live
in Portsmouth so pref in the south but anywhere will do.
John
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Subject: [DML] Re: fuel pump? please help!
Date: 12-Sep-99 9:51:20 -0400
In a message dated 9/11/99 10:50:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
delorean502@excite.com writes:
<< you know the upper center of
the engine looking down there is something with all those hoses coming
from it? (i dont know what its called, someone please tell me :) ) >>
Hey Erik,
That would be your fuel distributor. Just a minor part in the fuel
system :¦ (J/K) Hope that helps a little
Later,
Nick
VIN#1852....still for sale, e-mail for details
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Subject: [DML] Re: Super Glue
Date: 12-Sep-99 10:58:26 -0400
The best glue for weather stripping is 3M Super weather strip adhesive. Its
like contact cement in a tube.
Robert VIN 3309
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Subject: [DML] Re: dash crack
Date: 12-Sep-99 10:07:59 -0500
Erik wrote:
>i was wondering if anybody out there has
fixed the cracks on their own and how. <
Erik
My car had two cracks in the dash pad, one above the glovebox,
the other behind the instrument cluster. The previous owner
had the dash fixed by one of those vinyl repair outfits popular
with used car dealerships. These repairs are not permanent,
as both cracks had returned in my car. There are two ways to
permanently repair cracks in dash pads - replace the pad with a
new one or have the old pad stripped and new vinyl bonded to
the old core. I have use both processes with excellent long term
success. The current price for a new DeLorean dash pad is around
$625. Just Dashes will recover your old dash with an exact match
vinyl grain for less than that. Obviously, both procedures require
that you remove the dashboard.
Mike Griese
Storage Software Development Manager
IBM Storage Systems Division
Rochester, MN 55901
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Subject: [DML] Re: headliners
Date: 12-Sep-99 10:12:58 -0500
Erik
This is a common problem with DeLoreans. The headliner
material cannot be fixed, as the felt fabric has separated
from the underlying foam core. Any competent automotive
upholstery shop can fix this problem for around $50. Take
the headliners out of the car and to the shop. They will strip
the old headliner material off the cores and replace it with an
almost identical material. If you need new firtree fasteners
(the plastic things that look like christmas trees) you can get
them from the shop or from DeLorean parts providers. I had
to go the parts provider route beause the fasteners are not
a standard size.
Mike Griese
Storage Software Development Manager
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Subject: [DML] Re: fuel pump? please help!
Date: 12-Sep-99 10:13:02 -0500
Erik,
I believe your talking about the fuel distributor. All you need to do is
tighten the bolt from where its leaking and you should be ok. If you don't
want to start the car to check for a fuel leak, you can just 'jump' the RPM
relay to make the pump run constant. (check the back issues or you can email
me directly for details) Tighten the bolt, then jump the pump, and check
for leaks. After you finish, reinstall the RPM relay and let the car sit
for a while. (depending on how much gas has been sprayed) You should be
fine.
Hope this helps,
Duke
-----Original Message-----
From: delorean502@excite.com <delorean502@excite.com>
To: dmcnews@egroups.com <dmcnews@egroups.com>
Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 9:49 PM
Subject: [DML] fuel pump? please help!
>ok, heres the deal. I posted a letter yesterday saying fuel was
>spraying in my Delorean. not a good sign, i know. i looked at it
>today to see where it was spraying. Dumb idea? I know but i had to see
>where it was coming from. dont worry, i had a hose next to me with
>lots of water coming out just in case. you know the upper center of
>the engine looking down there is something with all those hoses coming
>from it? (i dont know what its called, someone please tell me :) )
>well it was spraying out towards the fire wall inbetween that and
>whats underneath it. A LOT of gas....a lot! could someone tell me
>what needs to be fixed? i need some help. I really dont want to send
>it to the people down the street that can fix it, but HATE deloreans
>more than a punch in the face. any advise would be great.
>
>erik geerdink
>vin 4512....not burned!
>plate EGGS D
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