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Subject: [DML] Re: is there a doctor in the house
Date: 22-Aug-99 1:39:32 -0400
If it ticks, that usually means your battery is dead.
Dave L.
Providence, RI
VIN I WANT A D!
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Subject: [DML] no love (was: is there a doc. in the house)
Date: 22-Aug-99 9:15:27 -0700
my D is giving me no love. i got the car to turn over but it stil wont
fire. i looked at the air filter for the first time today. a pile of
mud would do a better job than this filter. i cleaned the intake thing
under to airl filter and it still wont fire up. does anybody have any
ideas? i dont smell gas when i try to turn it over. could this be a
fuel pump problem? also, does anybody in the west michigan area know
of a good place where i can get my Delorean serviced? thanks for your
help
erik geerdink
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Subject: [DML] Re: no love (was: is there a doc. in the house)
Date: 22-Aug-99 16:37:06 -0400
In a message dated 8/22/99 11:47:48 AM Central Daylight Time,
delorean502@excite.com writes:
Eric did you check to see if the enertia switch might have tripped? Its
under the driver side dash and looks like a small box with a plunger sticking
up if is tripped.
Ralph
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Subject: [DML] Re: gullwing owner
Date: 22-Aug-99 19:04:52 -0400
Claude,
I read your interesting story but was confused by one statement.
You said: " I was restoring this "D" without any kind of books and there
wasn't any Delorean support to be had anywhere."
You may not have been aware of it at the time, but there has never been a
period of time when there was not support for the DeLorean. Several clubs,
dealers, and service organizations have always been available for technical
help and parts.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Help! My car is bleeding green!
Date: 22-Aug-99 19:06:14 -0400
Gus,
Before you sign the death certificate for you water pump be aware that
there are two coolant hoses under the intake manifold that are connected
to the back of the pump. When these hoses leak coolant will pool at the top
of the engine block. Engine heating this coolant would explain your "slight
antifreeze-like smell".
To isolate the problem you will need to perform a cooling system pressure
test. If you don't have a tester go to your favorite auto service facility
and ask them to pressure test your cooling system.
To determine if the water pump is leaking you will need to look at the
"weep hole" which is located just behind the pulley under the underside of
the
main shaft. You will need a small mirror to see this hole..
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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From: Gus Schlachter <gus@austin.rr.com>
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Subject: [DML] Help! My car is bleeding green!
Date: Friday, August 20, 1999 11:50 PM
After driving yesterday in the 100+ degree Texas heat, I noticed a slight
antifreeze-like smell in the garage. Sure enough, today I found a few
ounces of the green stuff on the garage floor. It wasn't leaking at the
time, but when I removed the radiator cap (resevoir cap?) the fluid started
flowing freely. I can't see exactly where from, but it's on the
ignition-timing marks and is dripping from just above. Since all the hoses
are six months old, I'm inclined to believe that my water pump has failed.
So my question to you, dear reader, is: do you agree with my diagnosis?
And
if so, do you think I should attempt to tackle this problem myself? And
how
many beers will it require?
Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN #4695
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Subject: [DML] Re: Engines?
Date: 22-Aug-99 19:08:27 -0400
Mike,
WRONG !, WRONG ! WRONG!
Excuse me for being so bold, but this is a touchy subject with me. Here are
the facts. The PRV-6 B-27 began production in the mid seventies and later
was up graded to the B-28F, although manufactured for Volvo, Renault, &
Peugot 98% of these engines were installed in Volvo's. In 1979 Is was
discovered that many of the engines failed prematurely due to cam shaft
failure, so an up graded hardened cam shaft was fitted to all PRV's produce
after 79-80. Fortunately this happened prior to the DeLorean application of
these engines.
Because of the high rate of failure of the early "soft cams" the PRV
absorbed a bad reputation. Many mechanics who know the early PRV assume
that the DeLorean PRV will suffer the same fate. Not so! There are many D's
running around with mileage's exceeding 100K. Case in point, our DeLorean,
it
now has over 260K miles and still going.
The fact is that the PRV-6 installed in all DeLoreans is one of the most
reliable engines ever produced.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: mishka1@interlog.com
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Engines?
> Date: Saturday, August 21, 1999 1:18 AM
>
> Dear DML,
>
> Due to being a new participant in the DML as well as being an avid
> hopeful in owning my own DeLorean i've got to do my research.
>
> Almost as amazing as finding out the DeLorean was a real car when I was
> a kid was finding out that the engines were a Volvo Renault Peugot mix!
> I mean wow! Well my joy was short lived when I found out that they
> were a huge flop in regards to reliability, performance and endurance.
> One person I talked to said that the "lubricating system was inadeuate
> and therefore allowed the engine to 'eat' camshafts." is this true?
> say it aint so... and if this is (dare I say it!) TRUE, what can be
> done to ammend the situation. Have thiongs like engine revamps gone
> on, or engine replacement?
>
> Plus does anyone know of a dual turbo D? and where I can get specs for
> ALL Deloreans regarding engine performance...
>
> Any info for the above would greatly be appreciated!
>
>
> Avidly waiting with fingers crossed while loking at every DeLorean pic
> he owns,
>
> Mike kadonoff
> Mishka1@interlog.com
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Subject: [DML] Re: no love (was: is there a doc. in the house)
Date: 22-Aug-99 21:56:00 -0400
erik,
Most no start problems are related to fuel supply. Remove the fuel pump
cover and attach a test light to the electrical connections and insure that
the pump is operating while you are attempting to start the engine.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: delorean502@excite.com
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] no love (was: is there a doc. in the house)
> Date: Sunday, August 22, 1999 12:15 PM
>
> my D is giving me no love. i got the car to turn over but it stil wont
> fire. i looked at the air filter for the first time today. a pile of
> mud would do a better job than this filter. i cleaned the intake thing
> under to airl filter and it still wont fire up. does anybody have any
> ideas? i dont smell gas when i try to turn it over. could this be a
> fuel pump problem? also, does anybody in the west michigan area know
> of a good place where i can get my Delorean serviced? thanks for your
> help
>
> erik geerdink
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel Enrichment Circuit - Help!
Date: 22-Aug-99 23:33:00 -0400
mike,
Unfortunately you will not find a section called "fuel enrichment circuit".
It is an unofficial term that has been used by mechanics when dealing with
the CIS injection system.
Here is the lowdown. All internal combustion engines require adjustment of
the fuel to air ratio to compensate for varying conditions. In the DeLorean
there are several electrical and mechanical items that effect fuel
enrichment. In other words the "fuel enrichment circuit" can involve any of
the following components.
Warmup regulator, full throttle micro-switch, control pressure regulator,
frequency valve, thermal vacuum control valve, O2 sensor, Lambda ECU, full
throttle micro switch, several hoses, sensors, and wires.
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From: mike@mrcopies.com <mrcopies@jet2.net>
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Subject: [DML] Fuel Enrichment Circuit - Help!
Date: Saturday, August 21, 1999 10:14 PM
Can somebody please shed some light on the fuel enrichment circuit. Is it
labeled something else in the manuals?
How do you adjust it? My car idles super rough and stutters upon
acceleration.
Spent the weekend cleaning, re-assembling the fuel tank, new fuel filter
etc.. so these are not the culprit.
Thanks
mike@mrcopies.com
VIN#17089
1983 Delorean
Windsor, Ontario CANADA
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Subject: [DML] clutch master cylinder
Date: 22-Aug-99 20:57:41 -0700
Is there a clutch master cylinder rebuild kit for the dmc12?
Today I noticed goo oozing out from inside the footwells where the
clutch pedal shaft goes thru the firewall to the master clyinder. The
boot is all grimed up and leaking.
Anyone have any suggestions before I pay $150 for a new master?
Thanks!
J
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Subject: [DML] Yokohama tires review
Date: 22-Aug-99 21:12:23 -0700
Well, I finally decided to buy the Yokohama AVS tires in the stock sizes
for my car. I got them from tirerack.com, and were shipped to my door
in less than 3 days. My overall rating on a scale of 1 to 10, would be
an 8 or 9! They handle far better than the Michellin XGTs that the
previous owner had installed, and the ride quality is also slightly
better (softer rubber). Also, the Michellin tires were 205/60-14 on the
front (one size over stock). Dropping to 195/60-14 makes the car
noticably easier to steer. That's a nice plus. The only downside to
the tires is their life. They have a treadwear of 160, while most new
Hondas and Toyotas come with tires rated at 300-400! Oh well, it's such
a sweet handling and riding tire, that I would recommend it in spite of
its short life. If anyone has any questions, feel free to email.
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Subject: [DML] E-Bay DMC N-Keys
Date: 23-Aug-99 0:54:05 -0700
Hi every one,
There is some important Delorean limited edition kit news on the
DMC Bulletin board:
http://www.totalimmersion.com/dmcboard/index.html
There is a small key info message there as well
Thanks
Lee
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Subject: [DML] Just wondering
Date: 23-Aug-99 10:46:55 +0000
Would a bad coil capacitor cause the tach to read about
double the actual RPM?
Could this cause a fast idle condition?
The reason for the question is that a friend just purchased
a "D" and has had a problen with fast idle (12 to 1500 RPM
measured with an external tach). The tach on the dash reads
about double the measured RPM.
He has replaced the idle control motor, coil, fuel pump,
fuel filter and several other components. The throtle cable
moves freely and the linkage doesn't seem to hang up any
place. The micro switch is operating when it should. The
frequency valve appears to be working in that you can hear
the change in frequency as the engine warms up. He has not
been able to get the dwell set due to the high idle speed.
I have searched the back issues of the DMCnews & it looks
like he has covered most of the bases that have been tried
before.
He's getting rather discouraged & I'm about out of ideas.
ANY suggestions would be appreciated (well, almost any).
Richard
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Subject: [DML] Freehold Monthly Cruisin August 26th
Date: 23-Aug-99 9:32:24 -0400
Some of our members should be attending the Freehold Monthly Cruisin this
Thursday night in Freehold, NJ Anyone else who can come please do so. We
will meet early in the lot behind the recorders office. Also hope to see a
good turnout of our members at our Summer Social this Sunday the 29th.
Gary Gore
Activites Director
DeLorean Mid Atlantic
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Subject: [DML] Re: Just wondering
Date: 23-Aug-99 11:39:16 -0400
Richard,
Do a continuity test of the Idle Speed Microswitch. If it checks out OK the
Idle Speed ECU is probably defective.
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> From: Richard Strecker <dmc1219@one.net>
> To: News, DMC <dmcnews@egroups.com>
> Subject: [DML] Just wondering
> Date: Monday, August 23, 1999 6:46 AM
>
> Would a bad coil capacitor cause the tach to read about
> double the actual RPM?
NO!
>
> Could this cause a fast idle condition?
NO!
> The reason for the question is that a friend just purchased
> a "D" and has had a problen with fast idle (12 to 1500 RPM
> measured with an external tach). The tach on the dash reads
> about double the measured RPM.
>
> He has replaced the idle control motor, coil, fuel pump,
> fuel filter and several other components. The throtle cable
> moves freely and the linkage doesn't seem to hang up any
> place. The micro switch is operating when it should. The
> frequency valve appears to be working in that you can hear
> the change in frequency as the engine warms up. He has not
> been able to get the dwell set due to the high idle speed.
>
> I have searched the back issues of the DMCnews & it looks
> like he has covered most of the bases that have been tried
> before.
>
> He's getting rather discouraged & I'm about out of ideas.
> ANY suggestions would be appreciated (well, almost any).
>
>
> Richard
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Subject: [DML] Re: Yokohama tires review
Date: 23-Aug-99 11:44:59 -0400
In-reply-to: <37C0CA27>.597D
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Ben Krasnow wrote:
> better (softer rubber). Also, the Michellin tires were 205/60-14 on the
> front (one size over stock). Dropping to 195/60-14 makes the car
Did they ever rub?
> the tires is their life. They have a treadwear of 160, while most new
> Hondas and Toyotas come with tires rated at 300-400! Oh well, it's such
Ignore treadwear ratings. They mean absolutely nothing. Although, a new
Honda Civic's tires probably will outlast the AVS intermediate, it won't
be by as much as you might expect based on the tire ratings. The AVSi has
about as good of a treadlife as you can expect considering the softness of
the compound.
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Subject: [DML] doc in da house :)
Date: 23-Aug-99 8:47:47 -0700
a while back i posted a message about my delorean having a hard time
starting after it has been running, but it would eventualy start. DMC
Joe said that it was the fuel accumulator but also mentioned something
about if it was the fuel accumulaotr i shouldnt be able to start at
all. could this be my problem? could it have been that my accumulaotr
was getting worse and worse everytime i started it and now finally it
just sucks? another thing, my ignition doesnt spring back when i turn
the key, i have to manually pull it back to get it to the right
possition. is there a way to put the spring back in it or should i
just get a new ignition and key? thanks for all your help everyone, my
delorean would be a piece of junk in my garage if i didnt have you
guys...and girls
Erik Geerdink
vin 4512
plate EGGS D
ps
still looking for west michigan delorean owners for a get together
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Subject: [DML] Rare Delorean For Sale
Date: 23-Aug-99 9:35:23 -0700
To: All Delorean Prospects
Fm: Larry Oden
I have an exceptional Delorean because of space that
I am forced to offer for sale.
This Delorean is a 1981, stainless with black
interior,
automatic, and one of the first production Deloreans
ever built. This motorcar has only 4700 miles and is
in excellent condition. Though it hasn't been driven
much it has been very well maintained. Within the past
12 months I spent $5,000 having everything gone
through
in the car to make sure that it was in excellent
condition, including removing and cleaning the gas
tank, replacing the fuel guage and fuel sending
unit,replacing the battery, injectiors, and any other
little things that it might need. This motorcar is
kept
in an airconditioned garage and is seldom, if ever,
exposed to the elements.
If you are interested in one of the nicest, most
collectable Deloreans available, this would be a prize
to have.
This car has a sticker on the windshield which reads
"factory Delorean training car" and to my
understanding
was the vehicle used to train the Delorean reps., and
used for events such as motor shows when Deloreans
first came to the market place.
This car is Vin#00614 and appears to be the first
production automatic ever produced. (see production
chronology at "delorean.com/chronology.html")
I am asking for this motorcar $28,500. I believe that
if any serious buyer is looking for something very
special and a rare motorcar in which he can take much
pride, this is the one.
If anyone has a serious interest I can be reached at
lkoden@yahoo.com
To all of the people who make this web site as nice as
it is I wish to express my appreciation and say "Job
well done" Keep up the happy motoring and have a nice
day.
Best Wishes
Larry Oden
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Subject: [DML] Re: accessories
Date: 23-Aug-99 15:14:05 -0400
I have a older version of the "Island Twin Turbo" sold by Eleanor
Rogers. I dont think Eleanor lives on the island (long island) any
more, but I assume it still has the same name.
I am happy with the performance. When I purchased my car, it had the
turbos already installed on it, so I am not a good source for
installation tips. I believe that Rob Grady did the installation on my
car for the previous owner. About 2 years ago, Rob updated my older
version of the kit to reinstall the O2 sensor, and associated components
so I could pass inspection. I opted not to install the CAT's because it
was expensive, and eliminated the mufflers making the car louder than it
already is with the turbos.
Noise level is my only complaint about the system. Even with the
mufflers instead of the CAT's it is still a bit noisy for my taste.
I have seen a number of single turbo installations that looked great.
They seem to need much less modification to install, and I would expect
similar performance because the boost is limited to 6Lbs anyway. A
single turbo can produce 6Lbs with no problem. In my version of the
Island turbo (I assume it is still the same) both turbos are the same
size, so it not as if they were designed to reduce turbo lag. I would
go as far to say that the off the line performance (0-20) may be a bit
worse than a stock delorean due to the lag. Once the RPM's are above 3K
or so, all is wonderful.
I would recommend the Island Turbos, but in my case I did not have the
luxury of researching it before buying it (it came with the car!), if I
had to do it myself I may have chosen a single turbo setup. As I said,
the single turbo looks like it requires less modification, and I suspect
it would be less expensive.
You should look at the setups in person (or good pictures) along with
specifications before you choose.
Donovan Pittman wrote:
>
>
>
> I am looking for a front spoiler for my D. In old Delorean World's they
> were advertised quite a bit. It added about 2.5 inches
> to the bottom of the spoiler and secured with 12 screws. They retailed for
> about 150 bucks. I know there is a company
> that currently makes side skirts and the rear valance but not the front
> one. Anyone know where I can find one? Also, anybody have
> experience with the twin turbo system currently available by Eleanor (cant
> remember her last name)? They advertise in
> Delorean World.
>
> Donovan
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Subject: [DML] Re: turbo delorean and locking problems
Date: 23-Aug-99 15:47:50 -0400
A turbo delorean is most likely a after market kit. There were a few
factory prototypes that were sold after DMC and Legend industries (the
contractor for DMC turbo design) closed up. It is a remote possibility
that the car could be one of those prototypes. If it is, the VIN should
be in the low 500 range.
It is possible to get locked in the car. This happens when the crappy
Lucas relays fail, and the lock solenoid stays energized. I would guess
it is also possible that it could cause a fire when the solenoid coil
gets too hot. If this happens, you could just reach behind the seat,
and pull out the door lock relay module. The most common fix is to
replace the Lucas relay with a Bosch. There are also "solid state"
relays available now that should just plug in as a relay would. You can
also get a Lockzilla from PJ Grady which will prevent this problem,
along with a few other lock related problems. The Lockzilla is the
preferred, and more expensive solution. When I purchased my car, it had
the bosch relays installed, but after I had one of my solenoids go bad
on me, I had the lockzilla installed. I have never been locked in the
car.
Hickman wrote:
>
> Today i was looking in my Hemmings for a Delorean I wanted to buy and I
> read that this guy had a turbo delorean.. Now I read in my book that
> John DeLorean didnt make these turbo engines because he got into trouble
> so fast.. So is this true? And one other thing, I also read in my book
> that it is possible for the mechanisms in the locking and unlocking
> switches to malfunction and lock you in your car. Has this ever
> happened to any of you?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ian
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Subject: [DML] Mystery plug and DMC for sale spotted
Date: 23-Aug-99 13:58:22 -0700
So, I'm underneath the rear end of the car doing some brake work, when I notice
an unplugged plug staring back at me. It's a white, 2 prong plug, hanging down
about 5 inches from the area of the distributor. I have a 5spd, is this for the
automatics? Or should this probably be plugged into something?
Also, anybody know what the connector in the left side of the transmission is
for? I didn't think there was any electric hardware involved in the manual
gearbox.
I spotted a DMC for sale at an import shop just west of Midland, Michigan. If
anybody is interested in more info, feel free to email me. It's VIN 5288, grey
interior, 5spd, lines in hood. Appears to be somewhat of a project car.
Thanks for any info,
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Subject: [DML] Re: doc in da house :)
Date: 23-Aug-99 18:21:21 -0400
Erik,
In your post earlier today you said:
>"DMC Joe said that it was the fuel accumulator but also mentioned >
something about if it was the fuel accumulaotr i shouldnt be able to start
at all."
I don't believe I ever made that statement.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> Subject: [DML] doc in da house :)
> Date: Monday, August 23, 1999 11:47 AM
>
> a while back i posted a message about my delorean having a hard time
> starting after it has been running, but it would eventualy start. DMC
> Joe said that it was the fuel accumulator but also mentioned something
> about if it was the fuel accumulaotr i shouldnt be able to start at
> all. could this be my problem? could it have been that my accumulaotr
> was getting worse and worse everytime i started it and now finally it
> just sucks? another thing, my ignition doesnt spring back when i turn
> the key, i have to manually pull it back to get it to the right
> possition. is there a way to put the spring back in it or should i
> just get a new ignition and key? thanks for all your help everyone, my
> delorean would be a piece of junk in my garage if i didnt have you
> guys...and girls
>
> Erik Geerdink
> vin 4512
> plate EGGS D
>
> ps
> still looking for west michigan delorean owners for a get together
>
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Date: 23-Aug-99 15:31:20 -0700
JOIN THE BACK TO THE FUTURE MAILING LIST DELOREAN FANS!!!!!
http://www.egroups.com/group/bttf/info.html
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Date: 23-Aug-99 20:52:04 -0400
To All,
Just wonder what everyone's opinion on those fuel additive out on the market
that claims that simply adding it to you gas tank will clean your injector.
Does anyone has good experience or bad experience with it? Is it worth the
money? I am more concern if it damages the critical fuel injection instead
of improving it.
Comments???
Bill
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Date: 23-Aug-99 23:04:55 -0500
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Joe,
Yup, the mirror says that I have what looks like a 1/8" hole on the water
pump, behind the pulley and facing straight down. It is the source of my
antifreeze leak.
It would appear that there are many parts that interfere with the water pump
R&R. Yuk! Not that I'm afraid of the work, I just know that the more parts
that I touch, the higher the likelihood of my breaking something else. :-)
This engine has 100k miles on it, drips oil on my garage floor (which is
keeping the antifreeze from soaking in) and blows blue smoke out the
tailpipe, particularly when started. What is really needed here is an
engine rebuild, or even a new one. Assuming, of course, that I have that
much money burning a hole in my little pocket. I just want to be able to
drive the thing, allot, and I'm thinking that an engine swap will prevent
much weeping and gnashing of teeth later. Or am I overreacting and being a
baby?
Gus
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DMC Joe [mailto:DMCJOE@att.net]
>
> To determine if the water pump is leaking you will need to look at the
> "weep hole" which is located just behind the pulley under the underside of
> the main shaft. You will need a small mirror to see this hole..
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Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel injection - additive
Date: 24-Aug-99 1:00:02 -0400
Try to stay away from the Valvoline in a grayish triangular bottle. It works
so good that my mechanic said that because my injectors were 10 years old on
my 90 Grand Prix, it actually melted 2 of them.
Just a caution....
Dave L.
Providence RI
VIN I WANT A D!
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a friend of mine uses additives, and it hasn't damged anything. he is very
glad, that he uses it. i don't know whether it cleans the injector, but his
car always runs.
> -----Ursprnngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: ToniLFHS98@aol.com [mailto:ToniLFHS98@aol.com]
> Gesendet am: Dienstag, 24. August 1999 02:52
> An: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Betreff: [DML] Fuel injection - additive
>
> To All,
> Just wonder what everyone's opinion on those fuel additive
> out on the market
> that claims that simply adding it to you gas tank will clean
> your injector.
> Does anyone has good experience or bad experience with it?
> Is it worth the
> money? I am more concern if it damages the critical fuel
> injection instead
> of improving it.
> Comments???
>
> Bill
>
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Subject: [DML] fanzilla
Date: 24-Aug-99 2:24:25 -0400
I just bought a fanzilla, and I gotta tell you... it is the coolest
thing ever.
Previously, whenever I had my air conditioning on... the compressor
would cycle and there would be alot of momentary dips in voltage which
would cause a momentary flicker of my headlights (at night) ... as well
my clock would reset. Not to mention it being the most annoying problem
ever.
Fanzilla completely cured that. What a neat product. I recommend it to
anyone. It installed in about 30 seconds, replacing one relay and the
'temporary' fan fail bypass link modification.
Anyways, I'm no affiliated with PJ Grady at all, but they definitely
know their stuff... www.pjgrady.com Did I mention they are very
friendly and helpful? I own 5 cars and never have I received the level
of service as I have received from them.
That's my two cents about fanzilla.
Does anyone know when the lockzilla with door opening is going to be
out?
J
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Subject: [DML] Re: gullwing owner
Date: 24-Aug-99 2:54:02 -0400
In a message dated 8/22/99 11:38:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DMCJOE@att.net
writes:
<< You may not have been aware of it at the time, but there has never been a
period of time when there was not support for the DeLorean. Several clubs,
dealers, and service organizations have always been available for technical
help and parts. >>
The problem back in 1981-82 time period was communication and distance,unlike
today,with the internet,and places like this mailing list,where you get
Excellent help,back then I tried my local Delorean dealers,but they were only
interested in making a buck,if any D clubs existed they were out in
California,or nowhere near me
You must remember that the only true way of finding help out there back then
was through magazines and word of mouth,unlike today you could find and
download tons of information (which I have)in just a short time,and be able
to communicate
with people with similar problems.
Claude
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Subject: [DML] oddities
Date: 24-Aug-99 3:06:36 -0400
I bought my Delorean in San Diego in May 99.
Since then, I have been discovering/uncovering very interesting 'fudges'
with my car. Here's the list so far:
1. Air conditioner Low Pressure Cut-Out Switch was bypassed. I removed
the bypass, recharged the freon, and it works fine. I can't really
understand why someone would bypass the pressure switch unless the
system had a leak or the compressor was shot. The compressor now cycles
properly, the air is very cold and has been for the past 3 months. No
leaks either. I inserted a special dye into the R12 and looked for
leaks. Nothing.
2. Brake fluid resevoir float sender plug removed and tied up. I
cleaned them off, reattached them, no problems. Why would someone
purposefully detach the float sender wire and tie it up nicely with a
tie-wrap? Again, it makes me think that something was broken... but,
brakes are 100% and the brake light isn't on.
3. Cooling fan. One of the cooling fans was unplugged and the plug
tied up nicely. It was the driver's side cooling fan. Is this somehow
related to the air conditioner? Can you think of a worse condition: AC
Low Pressure Cut-Out Switch bypassed, compressor on full time, A/C
cooling fan unplugged. I plugged it back in and it came on properly.
4. Low note on the horn unplugged. Plugged it back in, works fine.
Now, either I'm paranoid that every plug is faulty on my car and about
to unhook itself magically tie-wrapping itself somewhere closeby, or the
last guy who owned my Delorean had a bad mechanic or had a fetish for
unplugging stuff.
Can anyone come up with a reasonable hypothesis as to why any/all of
these items would be unplugged or bypassed in the ways which they were?
If I find anything else, I'll be sure to post.
Best regards,
J
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Subject: [DML] cross reference
Date: 24-Aug-99 3:08:18 -0400
Does anyone have a newer URL for a cross reference parts list? This
list has come in handy, although I've disproven a few numbers for
various things like a couple air and oil filters.
I'd really hate to blow something big, use this list... just to find out
I ordered the wrong part.
Does anyone maintain an authoritative proven list?
Here's the URL I used previously, which has mistakes:
http://members.tripod.com/~Phoenix007/parts.html
J
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Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel injection - additive
Date: 24-Aug-99 7:25:28 -0400
We've used Techron several times in my wife's Accord, and in the D. Seems to
work good for us. I like to add it when there's only 2 or 3 gallons left in
the tank and drive it till almost empty, so it's really concentrated.
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Date: Monday, August 23, 1999 11:44 PM
Subject: [DML] Fuel injection - additive
>To All,
>Just wonder what everyone's opinion on those fuel additive out on the
market
>that claims that simply adding it to you gas tank will clean your injector.
>Does anyone has good experience or bad experience with it? Is it worth the
>money? I am more concern if it damages the critical fuel injection instead
>of improving it.
>Comments???
>
>Bill
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: D repairs in MO
Date: 24-Aug-99 8:27:16 -0400
If it was used as a daily driver, and stored for the past year you may
be OK.
I would check all of the rubber parts, and open up the fuel tank to make
sure it is clean BEFORE you try to start the car.
If all looks fine, change the oil and drive it home.
You may want to get a copy of the DeLorean owners directory to find
other owners on your way home in case you have a problem. Make sure
your AAA membership is paid up, and take a few other phone numbers with
you for a few DeLorean Service Centers. Rob, Joe, Don, and Stephen will
all do their best to help you over the phone.
You may also want to contact a few DeLorean clubs that are on your
travel route. I know there is a Ohio club, and DeLorean MidAtlantic for
PA and NJ.
Amazinrick@aol.com wrote:
>
> Hi -- am looking into purchasing a D in Missouri, to bring to New Jersey.
> Can you recommend any capable DeLorean mechanics in the mid-Missouri area?
> The car has been used as a daily driver until last Fall. Has about 40,000
> miles estimated... bad odometer. Can be driven to St. Louis or Kansas City,
> but I hate to drive halfway across the country at highway speeds in an
> un-checked car. Especially since I haven't touched a stick shift in 10
> years. (And that was a pretty rough experience in a rented car in England.)
> I have driven cross country twice, but that was in a Neon, with a co-driver.
> Anything in particular I should have the mechanic take a look at? Any
> particular hazards to avoid? Any other comments? Like, am I crazy? Maybe!
> I figure I'll leave the car with the mechanic to work on then fly back a few
> weeks later to collect it. ---- waernst@aol.com
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Date: 24-Aug-99 9:18:26 -0400
In addition, it is a BAD idea to continue to try and start any car with
a weak battery. The low voltage condition causes the starter to
overheat, and may cause permanent damage to the starter.
DLoff80@aol.com wrote:
>
> If it ticks, that usually means your battery is dead.
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel injection - additive
Date: 24-Aug-99 11:19:18 -0500
A mechanic once told me that they run straight injector cleaner through the
injectors when a service station cleans injectors. I don't know if this is
true, maybe someone else can verify.
Personally I believe strongly in Textron brand cleaner. When I cleaned my
fuel injection system after reassembling my D, I put a bottle (maybe 2) in
the tank with a couple gallons of fuel. I bypassed the pump and ran it
until I could hear it return to the fuel tank. I let it sit for a couple
days and cycled it again. I ran the car on the higher strength cleaner for
a while before diluting the mixture.
The car ran fine after that.
Of course, your results may vary.
NK
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Subject: [DML] Re: door opener solenoids
Date: 24-Aug-99 16:24:02 +0000
What you need are motorized actuators, not heavy solenoids. They are
inexpensive and readily available from places like:
Dakota Digital
3412 Hovland Drive
Sioux Falls, SD 57107
PH 800-852-3228
RB's Obsolete Auto Parts
7711 Lake Ballinger Way
Edmonds, WA 98026
PH 800-426-6607
I've been using them for years for door openers and they work great. By the
way, you don't have to wait for one of Grady's great kits if you are a
do-it-yourselfer. This is a relatively easy conversion that has been
addressed before in DMCNews. I can e-mail a how-to article to anyone who is
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Subject: [DML] Re: oddities
Date: 24-Aug-99 12:52:24 -0400
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At 03:06 AM 8/24/99 -0400, you wrote:
>1. Air conditioner Low Pressure Cut-Out Switch was bypassed.
>2. Brake fluid resevoir float sender plug removed and tied up.
>3. Cooling fan unplugged and the plug tied up nicely.
>4. Low note on the horn unplugged.
>
>Can anyone come up with a reasonable hypothesis as to why any/all of
>these items would be unplugged or bypassed in the ways which they were?
J.D. -- Sounds like there was a recurring electrical problem, and the
previous mechanic was trying to lighten the load on the electrical system.
Which alternator does the car have?
Brian Henderlong / Tampa, FL / NAISSO# 3807 / 1995 DGGM Impala SS
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Subject: [DML] Re: Other gullwing car
Date: 24-Aug-99 15:14:16 -0400
I remember someone saying that they owned a different gullwing car, but i
can't remember what it was. Can the owner please e-mail me directly with
information about their car?
thank you,
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Date: 24-Aug-99 18:35:05 -0400
In a message dated 8/24/99 12:29:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jrobbins@brit.ca writes:
<<
Can anyone come up with a reasonable hypothesis as to why any/all of
these items would be unplugged or bypassed in the ways which they were?
If I find anything else, I'll be sure to post. >>
The only thing I can think up is that the Mechanic did this so that he could
show the owner that the car had a lot of problems (ie:expensive repairs)and
then present him
with the bill and then the mechanic would just go and plug things back in and
make
some quick big bucks,either that or maybe the mechanic wanted the car and by
making the car appear as if it had a lot of problems,he was hoping he might
be able to buy it off the owner for a song and dance.
Claude
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Subject: [DML] Re: fanzilla
Date: 24-Aug-99 18:51:07 -0400
I couldnt agree more. Fanzilla is AWESOME! I couldnt believe the difference
after I installed it. I just put the lockzilla in and the door unlock
remote. The opening feature add on should be out soon probably in the next
couple months. As always PJ Grady gave me the highest level of service and
courtesy.
Gary Gore
In a message dated 8/24/99 12:25:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jrobbins@brit.ca writes:
<< I just bought a fanzilla, and I gotta tell you... it is the coolest
thing ever.
Previously, whenever I had my air conditioning on... the compressor
would cycle and there would be alot of momentary dips in voltage which
would cause a momentary flicker of my headlights (at night) ... as well
my clock would reset. Not to mention it being the most annoying problem
ever.
Fanzilla completely cured that. What a neat product. I recommend it to
anyone. It installed in about 30 seconds, replacing one relay and the
'temporary' fan fail bypass link modification.
Anyways, I'm no affiliated with PJ Grady at all, but they definitely
know their stuff... www.pjgrady.com Did I mention they are very
friendly and helpful? I own 5 cars and never have I received the level
of service as I have received from them.
That's my two cents about fanzilla.
Does anyone know when the lockzilla with door opening is going to be
out? >>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel injection - additive
Date: 24-Aug-99 17:55:24 -0500
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I can second the use of Techron! Makes a big difference on my Probe GT's
V-6. It's the recommended solution on the Probe for cleaning up carbon
deposits in the cylinders. Very good stuff!! Get the concentrate and follow
the directions. If you have access to Chevron gas, just buy their Premium
all the time and it will do the same thing. Chevron isn't available where I
live, so I get the add-in.
Mark N
VIN 6820
At 07:25 AM 8/24/99 -0400, you wrote:
>We've used Techron several times in my wife's Accord, and in the D. Seems to
>work good for us. I like to add it when there's only 2 or 3 gallons left in
>the tank and drive it till almost empty, so it's really concentrated.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Help! My car is bleeding green!
Date: 24-Aug-99 21:42:18 -0400
Gus!!
I am far from a DeLorean mechanic, but the green stuff leaking from the
water pump housing is an easy fix. (A new water pump). As far as the blue
smoke, it may be as simple as valve seals or perhaps worn rings, still not
a disaster. Find out where the oil is leaking from, the old newspaper
on the garage floor trick, maybe just gaskets. I'm a firm believer in
milking old cars to the max before spending the big $$$$.
Dennis M. Drake
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Date: 24-Aug-99 21:50:41 -0400
In a message dated 8/24/99 12:26:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CBL302@aol.com
writes:
<< he problem back in 1981-82 time period was communication and distance,
unlike
today, with the Internet, and places like this mailing list, where you get
Excellent help, back then I tried my local Delorean dealers, but they were
only
interested in making a buck, if any D clubs existed they were out in
California, or nowhere near me
You must remember that the only true way of finding help out there back then
was through magazines and word of mouth, unlike today you could find and
download tons of information (which I have) in just a short time, and be
able
to communicate
with people with similar problems.
Claude
000570 >>
You're absolutely right Claude. I bought my '82 new in 1984, and the only
tech help then was the Delorean Owner's Association. The mag had many useful
tips, but the help was nothing compared to this list and the response
possible on the Internet. After owning my Delorean for over fifteen years, I
can say with some authority, this list is a REAL asset, especially to those
owner's that enjoy maintaining their own vehicles. Thanks to all for the
input!
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Subject: [DML] Re: D repairs in MO
Date: 24-Aug-99 22:11:08 -0400
Marc,
My 2 cents worth...there are several folks in Hemmings who travel the
country picking up classic/antique cars for buyers in those "floating
parking lot" trucks.
Most are certified appraisers and reasonably priced and will call you
when they get there with a condition report. I have used a guy from Walpole,
Mass. on a few occasions, and worked out well. E-Mail me if you need his
name. A second thought AAA Plus will tow you 100 miles a day. My son
had his car towed 300 miles home from college (of course it took 3 days)
Hope this helps!
D Mike Drake
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Subject: [DML] Front Fascia Bracket Availability
Date: 24-Aug-99 19:15:20 -0700
Before I reinstall my newly refurbished front fascia I need to replace
a couple of the front fascia brackets (PN108466). DMC Houston says
that they don't have any. I might have to make some or does anyone
have any ideas that could help me out?
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Subject: [DML] Extra plugs/jacks
Date: 24-Aug-99 19:51:33 -0700
This may not be always the case, but when I first got my car going on three years ago I immediately noticed a couple plugs and matching jacks in the engine compartmen that obviously would fit together but were mounted in such a way that the
Murray
Vin: 05962 Lic: DMC-XII
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<DIV>This may not be always the case, but when I first got my car going on three
years ago I immediately noticed a couple plugs and matching jacks in the engine
compartmen that obviously would fit together but were mounted in such a way that
they would not connect. I asked a person who had bought a new DeLorean and
had been involved with them heavily all that time about it. He said
basically that John DeLorean was no dummy and did not want to reinvent the
wheel....they found that a Jaguar wiring harness came closest to fitting the D
so used it and just did not connect various plugs and jacks where not
needed. In other words if everything works don't try to fix
it! Whether that is true or not I don't really know, but my car has run
find with some dangling plugs for a long time. </DIV>
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<DIV>Vin: 05962 Lic: DMC-XII</DIV>
<DIV>Washington State</DIV>
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Subject: [DML] Re: gullwing owner
Date: 24-Aug-99 23:17:21 -0400
Claude,
Thanks for refreshing my memory, I guess I was fortunate that I was aware
of DOA, DMCA, and D-1 shortly after I purchased my D. I can understand your
situation at that time especially when considering the non existence of the
Internet.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: CBL302@aol.com
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: gullwing owner
> Date: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 2:54 AM
> The problem back in 1981-82 time period was communication and
distance,unlike
> today,with the internet,and places like this mailing list,where you get
> Excellent help,back then I tried my local Delorean dealers,but they were
only
> interested in making a buck,if any D clubs existed they were out in
> California,or nowhere near me
> You must remember that the only true way of finding help out there back
then
> was through magazines and word of mouth,unlike today you could find and
> download tons of information (which I have)in just a short time,and be
able
> to communicate
> with people with similar problems.
>
> Claude
> 000570
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Subject: [DML] Re: Help! My car is bleeding green!
Date: 24-Aug-99 23:59:00 -0400
Gus,
I wish I could tell you that you are wrong but based on your description
you may be looking at an engine overhaul. It's not the water pump or oil
leak that concerns me it's is the blue smoke. It seems a little premature
that at 100K mi. you have developed this condition, on the other hand its
possible that due to an inoperative speedo angle drive and other unknown
engine history you may have a lot more engine ware than we realize.
A temporary fix for your water pump leak is the use of "stop leak". Go to
your local auto supply store or auto department (Wal-Mart, K-Mart) and
purchase Bars stop leak. Follow the directions and your pump leak should
cease.
There's not much that can be done about the smoke at start up but the oil
leak may be easily corrected depending on its source.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: Gus Schlachter <gus@austin.rr.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: Help! My car is bleeding green!
> Date: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 12:04 AM
>
> Joe,
>
> Yup, the mirror says that I have what looks like a 1/8" hole on the water
> pump, behind the pulley and facing straight down. It is the source of my
> antifreeze leak.
>
> It would appear that there are many parts that interfere with the water
pump
> R&R. Yuk! Not that I'm afraid of the work, I just know that the more
parts
> that I touch, the higher the likelihood of my breaking something else.
:-)
>
> This engine has 100k miles on it, drips oil on my garage floor (which is
> keeping the antifreeze from soaking in) and blows blue smoke out the
> tailpipe, particularly when started. What is really needed here is an
> engine rebuild, or even a new one. Assuming, of course, that I have that
> much money burning a hole in my little pocket. I just want to be able to
> drive the thing, allot, and I'm thinking that an engine swap will prevent
> much weeping and gnashing of teeth later. Or am I overreacting and being
a
> baby?
>
>
> Gus
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Subject: [DML] Re: accessories
Date: 25-Aug-99 0:02:35 -0400
Donovan,
Try PJ Grady for the front spoiler. He may still have them.
You can try Custom Fiberglass & Plastic @ 203-776-1341 ask for Hank. He may
have them too? He is in New Haven, CT. He also have rear and side skirts.
Just one fair warning. These spoilers are made out of fiberglass. One tap
or hit, they CRACK! Expensive proposition for this front spoilers. The nose
is ALWAYS are hitting or bottoming out. Many owners had them remove because
of this situation.
If you want something a little more "pliable" try the J.C. Whitney catalog.
They have front spoiler made of rubber so they can take the abuse and
punishment. They cost about $60.00 plus shipping cost. They are a pain to
put on the original airdam of the DeLorean. The spoiler also make the front
of the DeLorean look "heavier." If you want a photo of my car with this
spolier, let me know I can send you an e-mail picture of my DeLorean's front
with this spoiler mounted.
Kayo Ong
#05508
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Subject: [DML] Re: cross reference
Date: 25-Aug-99 0:02:44 -0400
J,
We used to maintain a crossover list but found two big problems.
1. Many items that appear to be crossovers are not.
Example: An owner requested we service his DeLorean to correct a "no hot
start condition" we discovered that the fuel pump he purchased from a local
parts store did not have a check valve which is required in the DeLorean.
As an electrical part he could not return the pump to the parts store; $145
down the drain.
2. DeLorean owners are extremely fortunate to have one of the best parts
networks of any limited production vehicle. Our philosophy is: purchase all
of your parts from DeLorean part suppliers. Sure, in some cases you may pay
a few bucks more, but you will be helping to keep the parts network
alive. At the same time you will be sure of getting the exact replacement
part with service support included.
Yes; buy your oil filters and light bulbs from Pep Boys and Auto Zone, but
that's it ! SUPPORT YOU DELOREAN PARTS SUPPLIER.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: J.D. Robbins <jrobbins@brit.ca>
> To: DMC News <dmcnews@eGroups.com>
> Subject: [DML] cross reference
> Date: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 3:08 AM
>
>
> Does anyone have a newer URL for a cross reference parts list? This
> list has come in handy, although I've disproven a few numbers for
> various things like a couple air and oil filters.
>
> I'd really hate to blow something big, use this list... just to find out
> I ordered the wrong part.
>
> Does anyone maintain an authoritative proven list?
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Subject: [DML] Re: Mystery plug and DMC for sale spotted
Date: 25-Aug-99 0:24:22 -0400
The white wire is for the TDC pick-up used for test proposes only. The
electrical connector on the side of the manual trans is for the reverse
light connector.
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> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Mystery plug and DMC for sale spotted
> Date: Monday, August 23, 1999 4:58 PM
>
> So, I'm underneath the rear end of the car doing some brake work, when I
notice
> an unplugged plug staring back at me. It's a white, 2 prong plug,
hanging down
> about 5 inches from the area of the distributor. I have a 5spd, is this
for the
> automatics? Or should this probably be plugged into something?
>
> Also, anybody know what the connector in the left side of the
transmission is
> for? I didn't think there was any electric hardware involved in the
manual
> gearbox.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel injection - additive
Date: 25-Aug-99 0:53:30 -0400
Bill,
Everyone who express their experiences with Techron by Chevron is right. It
is about the best and one of the most expensive one there is on the retail
market. There are cheaper price fuel injectors cleaners at half the cost and
many of them don't do squat.
I have used all the brands that I can find. I used them at least twice, if
not three times, just to get an experience of the product.
The other fuel injector that is decent is the Redline brand. It is available
at most speed shops. It is on the expensive side too.
Some fuel injector cleaners have water remover (alcohol) ingredient added to
it. This will remove the water or moisture in the fuel tank and system which
will give the feeling that your fuel injectors and the system have been
cleaned. This may give you the wrong impression between water moisture
removed and clean injectors that are properly working. Know the difference!
I would suggest that the tank should always be topped up to prevent water
condensation. Condensation will form in the tank when low on gas. This
water when it comes in contact with metal parts in fuel system created
corrosion, rust and sludge when settled upon the components.
Use a fuel injector cleaner ever 1,000 to 1,500 miles of driving to help
prevent the build up. I do, and it makes a difference when I don't.
No shares or ownership with these products or companies. Just experiences and
routine maintenance.
Kayo Ong
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Subject: [DML] delorean for sale
Date: 25-Aug-99 20:02:30 +1000
DMC for sale August 1982 model Vin No' SCEDT26T7DDO16027. Left hand drive.
Located in Melbourne Australia. For full details and information please visit
www.intercar.com.au. $25.000 AUD.
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Date: 25-Aug-99 14:32:09 +0100
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Hi All,
I am experiencing a slipping clutch and have looked at all the part shops
and the rough guide for a replacement clutch is approximately $350.00.
This in itself is not VERY VERY expensive but has anyone tracked
down a 'alternative part' .. maybe a Renault equivalent or does anyone
know if the manual gearbox was fitted to any other cars ??
(Heavyweight clutches become expensive when freighted to England).
I have also seen that the labour to get this installed is approx 7-10
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Subject: [DML] Re: Front Fascia Bracket Availability
Date: 25-Aug-99 9:23:07 -0500
In-reply-to: <7PVJJNJM1A>
At 07:15 PM 8/24/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Before I reinstall my newly refurbished front fascia I need to replace
>a couple of the front fascia brackets (PN108466). DMC Houston says
>that they don't have any. I might have to make some or does anyone
>have any ideas that could help me out?
Sorry I don't have any info on fascia brackets. I'm curious though. What
made you decide to have your fascia refurbished? What was wrong with it?
Was the paint flaking, was the thing warped or what? My front fascia has
both of these problems. Can it be fixed or do I need to replace it?
Also, do you (or anyone) know what kind of finish the rims have and why
mine are flaking? Is there a way to get them refinished?
Todd "Project Car For Sure" B.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Help! My car is bleeding green!
Date: 25-Aug-99 9:45:12 -0500
Dennis,
Easy fix?! The water pump R&R looks like a whole lot of
disassembly/reassembly to me. And replacing valve seals or worn rings ain't
no afternoon project, either.
When I was in college, I had a $200 car that needed constant maintenance to
keep running, and since I couldn't afford a mechanic I learned quickly about
automotive repair. But now I make more than minimum wage and my free time
is much more valuable to me...I'd much rather spend my time polishing the
stainless (or even driving it!) than being hunched over the engine for many
hours. I knew full well that this car was going to be a "special needs"
vehicle when I got it, and was planning on having some major work done
(engine rebuild, maybe a turbo?) next year anyway. I just wasn't prepared
to have to make this decision now.
If I had wanted an affordable, reliable car, I would have bought a Honda.
:-)
Gus
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike03062@aol.com
>
> I am far from a DeLorean mechanic, but the green stuff leaking from the
> water pump housing is an easy fix. (A new water pump). As far as the
> blue
> smoke, it may be as simple as valve seals or perhaps worn rings, still
> not
> a disaster. Find out where the oil is leaking from, the old
> newspaper
> on the garage floor trick, maybe just gaskets. I'm a firm believer in
> milking old cars to the max before spending the big $$$$.
>
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<P><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">Easy fix?! The water pump R&R looks like a whole lot of disassembly/reassembly to me. And replacing valve seals or worn rings ain't no afternoon project, either.</FONT></
<P><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">When I was in college, I had a $200 car that needed constant maintenance to keep running, and since I couldn't afford a mechanic I learned quickly about automotive repair. But now
<P><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">If I had wanted an affordable, reliable car, I would have bought a Honda. :-)</FONT>
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<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">From: Mike03062@aol.com</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">I am far from a DeLorean mechanic, but the green stuff leaking from the</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">water pump housing is an easy fix. (A new water pump). As far as the blue</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">smoke, it may be as simple as valve seals or perhaps worn rings, still not</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">a disaster. Find out where the oil is leaking from, the old newspaper</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">on the garage floor trick, maybe just gaskets. I'm a firm believer in</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">milking old cars to the max before spending the big $$$$.</FONT>
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Subject: [DML] strut charge
Date: 25-Aug-99 8:03:44 -0700
I know itss possible to get your door struts recharged, but how much does it
cost and what kind of place would do it? I live in michigan, so if anyone
on here knows of a place around here, please let me know. i would
appreciate it very much.
Erik "egg" Geerdink
1981 Delorean
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Subject: [DML] Re: Front Fascia Bracket Availability
Date: 25-Aug-99 11:02:00 -0500
In-reply-to: <7PVJJNJM1A>
This is the first I heard of it this, so I thought I'd look in to it a
little more. First, why do you need them? Are they actually missing?
Rusted? Is just the captive nut missing?
The captive nuts in the bracket generally come loose when you remove the
rock screen. When the supply was exhausted, we had some made up, and it
took years for them to sell. Now, when we come across a rusted one, we
clean it up, treat it with a rust inhibitor and use it again. If it's just
missing the captive nut, we replace it with a clip-on captive nut.
James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas
281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
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At 9:15 PM -0500 8/24/99, t.mickel@worldnet.att.net wrote:
>Before I reinstall my newly refurbished front fascia I need to replace
>a couple of the front fascia brackets (PN108466). DMC Houston says
>that they don't have any. I might have to make some or does anyone
>have any ideas that could help me out?
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: strut charge
Date: 25-Aug-99 12:09:33 -0400
Someone has miss informed you. The struts cannot be recharged. New struts
are the only solution.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: egg <delorean502@excite.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] strut charge
> Date: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 11:03 AM
>
> I know itss possible to get your door struts recharged, but how much does
it
> cost and what kind of place would do it? I live in michigan, so if
anyone
> on here knows of a place around here, please let me know. i would
> appreciate it very much.
>
> Erik "egg" Geerdink
> 1981 Delorean
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Subject: [DML] Re: oddities
Date: 25-Aug-99 11:21:03 -0600
Hi J.D.
Is it possible to speak to the previous owner, he/she would be able to clear
up this matter. Perhaps the unplugging was done for storage purposes?
Good luck in resolving this!
Christopher M. Hawes
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----Original Message Follows----
From: "J.D. Robbins" <jrobbins@brit.ca>
I bought my Delorean in San Diego in May 99.
Since then, I have been discovering/uncovering very interesting 'fudges'
with my car. Here's the list so far:
1. Air conditioner Low Pressure Cut-Out Switch was bypassed. I removed the
bypass, recharged the freon, and it works fine. I can't really understand
why someone would bypass the pressure switch unless the system had a leak or
the compressor was shot. The compressor now cycles properly, the air is
very cold and has been for the past 3 months. No leaks either. I inserted
a special dye into the R12 and looked for leaks. Nothing.
2. Brake fluid resevoir float sender plug removed and tied up. I
cleaned them off, reattached them, no problems. Why would someone
purposefully detach the float sender wire and tie it up nicely with a
tie-wrap? Again, it makes me think that something was broken... but,
brakes are 100% and the brake light isn't on.
3. Cooling fan. One of the cooling fans was unplugged and the plug
tied up nicely. It was the driver's side cooling fan. Is this somehow
related to the air conditioner? Can you think of a worse condition: AC Low
Pressure Cut-Out Switch bypassed, compressor on full time, A/C cooling fan
unplugged. I plugged it back in and it came on properly.
4. Low note on the horn unplugged. Plugged it back in, works fine.
Now, either I'm paranoid that every plug is faulty on my car and about
to unhook itself magically tie-wrapping itself somewhere closeby, or the
last guy who owned my Delorean had a bad mechanic or had a fetish for
unplugging stuff.
Can anyone come up with a reasonable hypothesis as to why any/all of
these items would be unplugged or bypassed in the ways which they were?
If I find anything else, I'll be sure to post.
Best regards,
J
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Subject: [DML] Re: Other gullwing car
Date: 25-Aug-99 14:29:05 -0400
Merecedes made a roadster in the mid sixties and throughout the early
seventies with gullwing doors and they are coming out with a new one so peel
your eyes for info
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Subject: [DML] Melted Inertia Switch
Date: 25-Aug-99 17:55:43 -0400
Traveled to Rob Gradys this past week for the first time and had them go
over my car. Well.....I'm glad I did. When I was getting ready to leave
at midnight from Maine my car wouldn't start!!! It had been fine..this
was the 1st time ever that it wouldn't start. Good timing, eh?
Well, since the car was dead I went to bed all pissed off. As I laid
there I remembered I had been looking under that part of the car earlier
in the day making a list of stuff I wanted Rob to look at. I thought
perhaps I hit the inertia switch or something stupid like that.....So, I
went back into the barn and pulled up on the plunger and it didn't stay
up. Now at the time I didn't know that I was supposed to stay up, It
just snapped back down. But I tried to start it again and YES!!! it
started. So I repacked the car and headed to New York.
During the 200 point inspection Rob come over to me and showed me the
switch AND the wiring harness....both were melted!!! It shorted out
somehow. Rob was amazed that I even made it. Rob wanted to keep the
switch as a "show and tell" as he said he hadn't seen one do that
before. So, if your car hasn't had the inertia switch looked at
recently, give it a peek. I guess there was a recall on this? so that
it's mounted in a different place?
I enjoyed my stay in New york and got alot of safety issues taken care
of. It's nice to have someone working on your car that actually knows
what they are doing. I only wish I lived closer to New York! The
Throgs Neck Bridge is a bear at rush hour!!!
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Subject: [DML] DeLorean rental
Date: 25-Aug-99 19:04:20 -0400
Folks,
I am flying to Baltimore/Washington airport Thursday 9/4/99 and heading back
to New Hampshire Sunday 9/7/99. I'm going to visit relatives and see the wall
(get uneasy just thinking about that). I would love to rent a DeLorean, in
my clandestine plan to convince my wife I need one! I am over 50 (no
hot-rodding kid), have a CDL-2 with perfect driving record and have owned
many antique and classic automobiles over the years. Also if anyone from
that area needs a car driven to PJ Grady's I could arrange that as well on my
return home. Anyone interested, please E-Mail me privately.
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Date: 25-Aug-99 19:10:31 -0400
If I understand what you are describing, it is located on the driver's side
and has two wires attached to it. I also found this same device while I was
under the car. One of the wires was disconnected, so I reconnected it.
After I had reconnected the wire, the reverse lights started to magically
work.
Sean Howley
VIN#2345
> Also, anybody know what the connector in the left side of the transmission
is for?>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Clutch Problems.
Date: 25-Aug-99 19:27:43 -0500
In-reply-to: <H000036E055AAB9E>
A clutch kit (disc, pressure plate and throwout bearing) from us runs about
$390 (part #112512) - our labor rate is $62.50 and we get 10 hours labor to
do it.
You might try calling Paul Windsor at Wingray in Liverpool if you haven't
already, ring him at 0151-428-9043 - I believe he has all these parts and
certainly the experience to do the job.
James Espey
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At 8:32 AM -0500 8/25/99, JOHN_GEULEY@HP-UnitedKingdom-om14.om.hp.com wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am experiencing a slipping clutch and have looked at all the part
>shops
> and the rough guide for a replacement clutch is approximately $350.00.
>
> This in itself is not VERY VERY expensive but has anyone tracked
> down a 'alternative part' .. maybe a Renault equivalent or does anyone
> know if the manual gearbox was fitted to any other cars ??
> (Heavyweight clutches become expensive when freighted to England).
>
> I have also seen that the labour to get this installed is approx 7-10
> hours !! (Is this true ??).
>
> Regards
>
> John G.
>
> England.
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Subject: [DML] polish, interior parts and speakers
Date: 25-Aug-99 20:45:29 -0400
I had a few quick questions for the knowledge-base that is the DML:
1. Has anyone tried the new super-whiz bang polish from DeLorean Motor
Company? What's the verdict?
2. I tried to download the interior components chart from:
http://www.usadmc.com/interior.pdf
but I can't open it up with Acrobat - has anyone else had this problem?
and, finally:
3. I bought a set of the 4 speakers from DeLorean Motor Company ($35 for
four - like $70 off list price) and am looking for pointers on how to get
the screws in the front ones. They want to stick to the magnet before I can
get them started.
Eric "just close the deal, Chris" Goldstein
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Subject: [DML] Re: strut charge
Date: 25-Aug-99 20:55:47 -0400
> > From: egg <delorean502@excite.com>
> > Subject: [DML] strut charge
> >
> > I know itss possible to get your door struts recharged
Where did you get the notion that the door struts can be recharged?
Regards,
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Midlothian, VA
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Subject: [DML] Re: Clutch Problems.
Date: 25-Aug-99 21:36:21 -0400
John,
There are very few sources for the clutch system. Even with overseas
freight it may be cost effective to make one phone call. I don't know if
these numbers will help but they are taken from replacement parts.
Pressure Plate: VELO 266749 or 74660518, Vaelo 235DBR15000
Disc: VELO 265315
Pilot bearing: SKF 6303-2AS1-MT59
Throwout bearing: Bap-Geon 30-28500 or Vera 2601242
Our labor time for a clutch replacement is 8 hours.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: JOHN_GEULEY@HP-UnitedKingdom-om14.om.hp.com
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Cc: GEULEY_JOHN/HP-UnitedKingdom_om14@gargoyle.br.itc.hp.com
> Subject: [DML] Clutch Problems.
> Date: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 9:32 AM
>
> Hi All,
>
> I am experiencing a slipping clutch and have looked at all the part
shops
> and the rough guide for a replacement clutch is approximately
$350.00.
>
> This in itself is not VERY VERY expensive but has anyone tracked
> down a 'alternative part' .. maybe a Renault equivalent or does
anyone
> know if the manual gearbox was fitted to any other cars ??
> (Heavyweight clutches become expensive when freighted to England).
>
> I have also seen that the labour to get this installed is approx
7-10
> hours !! (Is this true ??).
>
> Regards
>
> John G.
>
> England.
>
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Subject: [DML] De Lorean Motor Company back online
Date: 25-Aug-99 20:38:36 -0500
As I mentioned last week, our move to a more robust server left us in the
lurch over the weekend as it was activated quicker than we expected. That,
coupled with an update to the price list and the installation of a new
store with a secure server made for a few hectic days this week.
The site is now back online, with the following changes from last week:
- New PDF file for price list uploaded (8/20/99), a few things went up,
many more went down, in particular, kit prices (rubstrips, speakers,
lights/lenses, weatherstripping) all went down, some dramatically.
- As Eric mentioned, the interior components chart has been uploaded -
anyone else having a problem with it?
- Details on the Budget Restoration Program (as mentioned in DeLorean
World) are now online
I apologize for any inconvenience any of y'all may have experienced.
James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas
281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
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Subject: [DML] re: Clutch Problems
Date: 25-Aug-99 21:05:06 -0500
7-10 hours is probably fair. We did a rear main seal at one of our club tech
days, which is essentially the same work but without resurfacing the
flywheel. With Don Steger's help it took about 5 hours, with the owner doing
most of the work. We had a lift but no transmission jack, just a lot of
cooperative muscle power. It was very valuable having someone there that had
done this many times.
I changed mine in my garage, by myself on floor jacks and would guess
overall it took 10 hours, but the work was spread over most of the winter
and included a transmission rebuild so it's hard to be specific.
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> From: JOHN_GEULEY@HP-UnitedKingdom-om14.om.hp.com
> I have also seen that the labour to get this installed is approx 7-10
> hours !! (Is this true ??).
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Subject: [DML] Re: Other gullwing car
Date: 25-Aug-99 21:44:09 -0500
The Mercedes' gullwing was also produced later on in the eighties!
I've seen a 1983 Mercedes 300SL(?) Gullwing version for sale in an Auto
Trader magazine (Alabama version)
The new car is the Mercedes Vision, a Ferrari-fighter priced at about
$750,000-$1,000,000 with what is known more as the "butterfly" doors-
check out the McLaren F1 for a fine example- that puts out a hell of a
lot
of horsepower!!!
Hopes this li'l bit of info spreads light on that. Now...let's get back
to
DeLoreans!!!
Best Wishes,
Robert
P.S. If you wanna know the specs, e-mail me privately and I'll post them
for
you!
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rickay-@webtv.net wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=2377> I remember someone saying that they owned a different gullwing car, but i > can't remember what it was. Can the owner please e-mail me directly wit
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Date: 26-Aug-99 0:16:48 -0400
James,
Here is the message I receive when I try to pull up the parts page, what is
the new address.
"File Not Found
The requested URL was not found on this server"
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: James Espey <james@usadmc.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] De Lorean Motor Company back online
> Date: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 9:38 PM
>
> As I mentioned last week, our move to a more robust server left us in the
> lurch over the weekend as it was activated quicker than we expected.
That,
> coupled with an update to the price list and the installation of a new
> store with a secure server made for a few hectic days this week.
>
> The site is now back online, with the following changes from last week:
>
> - New PDF file for price list uploaded (8/20/99), a few things went up,
> many more went down, in particular, kit prices (rubstrips, speakers,
> lights/lenses, weatherstripping) all went down, some dramatically.
>
> - As Eric mentioned, the interior components chart has been uploaded -
> anyone else having a problem with it?
>
> - Details on the Budget Restoration Program (as mentioned in DeLorean
> World) are now online
>
> I apologize for any inconvenience any of y'all may have experienced.
>
> James Espey
> DeLorean Motor Company
> Houston, Texas
>
> 281/568-9573
> 800/USA-DMC1
> http://www.usadmc.com
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Date: 26-Aug-99 1:59:53 -0400
Mercedes is making a new gullwing? Where can information be found on this?
Does anyone know if there are any Mercedes websites with gullwing info?
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Date: 26-Aug-99 7:34:44 +0000
Did you ever get any info about the Bricklin. They still have a
national club and magazine with lots of info. including an early
article about the D.
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Date: 26-Aug-99 8:20:34 -0400
I was told NOT to buy oil filters from Pep-boys.
I was told due to some valve in the standard fram type filter, there is
a reduction of oil flow that is no good for the DeLorean engine. I use
the Perlux (I think that is what it is). It is about twice the price of
the standard fram type.
Maybe I was told this because of my Turbos? and this does not apply to
others.
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Date: 26-Aug-99 7:06:51 -0600
Hello all
Having gull wings does not make a car a DeLorean. Please, no more posts on
Bricklin's, Mercedes, etc. The thread is closed.
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Date: 26-Aug-99 6:21:32 -0700
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My front fascia was both warped and the paint was flaking. P.J. Grady
did the work and the result is truly a thing of beauty. I almost hate
to put it back on the car (maybe the livingroom would be better). Plan
to get a second job though right now!
t.micke-@worldnet.att.net wrote:
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> At 07:15 PM 8/24/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >Before I reinstall my newly refurbished front fascia I need to
replace
> >a couple of the front fascia brackets (PN108466). DMC Houston says
> >that they don't have any. I might have to make some or does anyone
> >have any ideas that could help me out?
>
> Sorry I don't have any info on fascia brackets. I'm curious though.
What
> made you decide to have your fascia refurbished? What was wrong with
it?
> Was the paint flaking, was the thing warped or what? My front fascia
has
> both of these problems. Can it be fixed or do I need to replace it?
> Also, do you (or anyone) know what kind of finish the rims have and
why
> mine are flaking? Is there a way to get them refinished?
>
>
> Todd "Project Car For Sure" B.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Help! My car is bleeding green!
Date: 26-Aug-99 9:50:37 -0500
I'll try the Stop-Leak...it's a pretty hefty leak but I've heard stories of
miracles performed by that stuff (even back when it was "chunky style"). It
can't hurt to try, right?
I think the miles are authentic. In fact, from looking at the car it's hard
to believe it has that many miles. The original owner used it as a daily
driver in heavy urban traffic, and the second owner drove it almost never
and did little in the way of maintenance. I've wanted to do something with
the engine ever since I got it, but anything I can do to postpone that for a
few months is welcome.
Thanks Joe.
Gus
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DMC Joe
>
> Gus,
> I wish I could tell you that you are wrong but based on your description
> you may be looking at an engine overhaul. It's not the water pump or oil
> leak that concerns me it's is the blue smoke. It seems a little premature
> that at 100K mi. you have developed this condition, on the other hand its
> possible that due to an inoperative speedo angle drive and other unknown
> engine history you may have a lot more engine ware than we realize.
>
> A temporary fix for your water pump leak is the use of "stop leak". Go to
> your local auto supply store or auto department (Wal-Mart, K-Mart) and
> purchase Bars stop leak. Follow the directions and your pump leak should
> cease.
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<P><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">I'll try the Stop-Leak...it's a pretty hefty leak but I've heard stories of miracles performed by that stuff (even back when it was "chunky style"). It can't hurt to try,
<P><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">I think the miles are authentic. In fact, from looking at the car it's hard to believe it has that many miles. The original owner used it as a daily driver in heavy urban tra
<P><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">Thanks Joe.</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">Gus</FONT>
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<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">From: DMC Joe</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Gus,</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">I wish I could tell you that you are wrong but based on your description</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">you may be looking at an engine overhaul. It's not the water pump or oil</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">leak that concerns me it's is the blue smoke. It seems a little premature</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">that at 100K mi. you have developed this condition, on the other hand its</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">possible that due to an inoperative speedo angle drive and other unknown</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">engine history you may have a lot more engine ware than we realize.</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">A temporary fix for your water pump leak is the use of "stop leak". Go to</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">your local auto supply store or auto department (Wal-Mart, K-Mart) and</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">purchase Bars stop leak. Follow the directions and your pump leak should</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">cease.</FONT>
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Subject: [DML] air intake
Date: 26-Aug-99 8:13:03 -0700
does anybody know of a good way to clean the air intake "chamber". the
previous owner of the delorean NEVER changed the air filter and now it
is all grimey and gross. also, i dont know where i heard it but i
thought you could recharge the door struts. maybe i was wrong.
thanks
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Darryl
I, too, would like the instructions for the door actuators.
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Subject: [DML] Re: De Lorean Motor Company back online
Date: 26-Aug-99 13:17:05 -0500
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What/where exactly are you clicking to get this message/
James
At 11:16 PM -0500 8/25/99, DMC Joe wrote:
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>Here is the message I receive when I try to pull up the parts page, what is
>the new address.
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Subject: [DML] Re: strut charge
Date: 26-Aug-99 20:16:12 +0100
There is a firm in London who re-gas struts and they do DeLorean door-struts. I know no
details myself - not owning a D yet - but I know club members who have had it done - it costs
about 20 pounds a strut (about 30 dollars) from memory.
The Doors on Ian Titley's car really flew up at the NEC (but it had been under hot lights for
3 days). (His torsion beams were correctly adjusted).
Best Wishes,
Martin
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DMC Joe wrote:
> Someone has miss informed you. The struts cannot be recharged. New struts
> are the only solution.
>
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> > From: egg <delorean502@excite.com>
> > To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> > Subject: [DML] strut charge
> > Date: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 11:03 AM
> >
> > I know itss possible to get your door struts recharged, but how much does
> it
> > cost and what kind of place would do it? I live in michigan, so if
> anyone
> > on here knows of a place around here, please let me know. i would
> > appreciate it very much.
> >
> > Erik "egg" Geerdink
> > 1981 Delorean
> > VIN# 4512
> > LIC. PLATE: EGGS D
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Subject: [DML] Re: air intake
Date: 26-Aug-99 15:26:55 -0400
Gumout Carburetor Cleaner.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: delorean502@excite.com
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] air intake
> Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 11:13 AM
>
> does anybody know of a good way to clean the air intake "chamber". the
> previous owner of the delorean NEVER changed the air filter and now it
> is all grimey and gross. also, i dont know where i heard it but i
> thought you could recharge the door struts. maybe i was wrong.
>
> thanks
>
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Subject: [DML] All Gullwings
Date: 26-Aug-99 13:10:14 -0700
There is a website that has all gullwing cars at
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Date: 26-Aug-99 17:26:12 -0400
In a message dated 8/26/99 9:27:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com writes:
<<
DMC Joe wrote:
<SNIP>
> Yes; buy your oil filters and light bulbs from Pep Boys and Auto Zone, but
> that's it ! SUPPORT YOU DELOREAN PARTS SUPPLIER. >>
Joe ,I want to correct you on one thing about the "parts stores" oil
filters,they rub against the oil pressure sending unit,and after awhile could
cause the unit to leak,
it is best to use the factory oil filter.
Claude
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Subject: [DML] Re: cross reference
Date: 26-Aug-99 18:34:34 -0400
Claude,
Here is a better solution. Purchase a 45 degree angle adapter for the oil
pressure sender and the problem you described will be eliminated. As a
matter of fact the adapter will allow larger capacity filters to be fitted
to your DeLorean.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 5:26 PM
>
> In a message dated 8/26/99 9:27:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com writes:
>
> <<
> DMC Joe wrote:
> <SNIP>
> > Yes; buy your oil filters and light bulbs from Pep Boys and Auto Zone,
but
> > that's it ! SUPPORT YOU DELOREAN PARTS SUPPLIER. >>
>
> Joe ,I want to correct you on one thing about the "parts stores" oil
> filters,they rub against the oil pressure sending unit,and after awhile
could
> cause the unit to leak,
> it is best to use the factory oil filter.
>
> Claude
> vin00570
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Stock Certificate
Date: 26-Aug-99 18:38:50 -0400
Guys,
I am looking for a cancelled Delorean Motor Company Stock
certificate from when thay were on the stock market before they went
bankrupt.If anybody could sell me one or let me know where I could possibly
find one I would greatly appreciate it !!!
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Subject: [DML] New to the list
Date: 26-Aug-99 17:32:46 -0700
Hello everyone, I am new to the list, but my delorean experance began
last year when I purchased an 81 D that had been neglected by previous
owners. The price was right $5000 to be exact. It required compleate
replacement of the fuel system, including distributer, other repairs
included frame work and most receantly a transmission that is being
installed currently. The Body leaves a lot to be desired also, with
atleast one dent in every body pannel, which includes damage to the
front facia and bumper, thankfully it is nicley hidden by the bra which
came with the car when I purchased it. If anyone has any info on 4194
it would be much apperaciated.
Stats 81, SS body, Black int, 5 speed, groves in hood, no gas flap
location St Charles IL
Thanks
Andrew
vin 4194
PS, After purchasing my DeLorean I went through Delorean 1 to get
parts, But dealing with ED almost made me regret my desision within the
first month. Steve at DMC is a pleasure to deal with and is my
recommendation to all self respecting DMC owners, I still have yet to
get in contact with PJ Grady, I have heard many good things about them
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Subject: [DML] Manual Retracting Front Fender Antenna
Date: 26-Aug-99 20:22:47 -0500
Last week someone on the list was asking about their radio antenna, a
manual retracting antenna for the front fender. Today I was poking around
in some boxes in he back and ran across some of these. Their history is
unknown to me, but it was a factory item. How it figured in to whole
antenna chronology is also unknown:
First: Windshield antenna
Somewhere in between: Fixed mast antenna on fender
Somewhere in between: Manual retracting antenna on fender
Last: Power antenna in rear quarter
If I had a fixed mast antenna, I would consider replacing it with the
manual retracting antenna. I think the guy said his radio reception was the
same if it was up or down (is that good or bad reception?). Cheaper than
putting in the power antenna ($240) and then having the hole welded up and
refinished ($200).
The bad part is that to install this antenna you have to remove the fender.
Call or email me if anyone is interested in knowing more...
James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas
281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
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Subject: [DML] Re: Rear Suspension Cover Clips Availability
Date: 26-Aug-99 21:30:23 -0400
In-reply-to: <JAMESESPEYJAMES>
Anyone know where I can aquire the little clips (or are they screws?)
that hold the suspension covers to the bottom of the car? I'm having no
luck locating any, and the cover (panel) on my passinger side is
clunking around every time I hit a bump. I don't want to drive the car
till I can get that taken care of, and summer's passing fast.
Thanks - Dan
7065
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Subject: [DML] Good "conditioner" for dash?
Date: 26-Aug-99 20:51:12 -0500
Well after replacing my split binnicle I want to take extra good care
of the new one and the entire dash for that matter.
I had used Armor-All spray in the past but recently heard that it
actually promotes the dash drying out...the last thing I need as
my car is often parked in direct sunlight for hours on end.
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Subject: [DML] Door Openers
Date: 26-Aug-99 19:09:58 -0700
For those that are interested,
Summit's catalog sells the remote door openers for $96.69 There made by the
VPA corp. from Riverside, CA.
The kit comes with: 2 remotes, 2 relays, 2 draw pull solinoids, 1 remote
module and mounting hardware. I have this unit installed in my DeLorean and
it works great. I have it set to lock, un-lock, open passengers door, and
open drivers door.
The part # is via-80158 Summits Tel. # 1800-230-3030
Or you can get it cheaper from VPA. Sorry can't find there #.
If you want more info please don't e-mail me right away I'll be out of the
country for the next two weeks.
Mike
vin#1113
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Subject: [DML] Re: air intake
Date: 26-Aug-99 22:40:48 -0400
Can GUMOUT carburetor cleaner be used on the air intake? Do you just pour or
spray it in while the engine is running??
Bill
VIN# 2157
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Subject: [DML] Re: Good "conditioner" for dash?
Date: 26-Aug-99 23:40:24 -0400
Hello,
I use a stp product. It contains a silicone which helps protect it. I use it on my jeep, and
there is no sign of fading at all. Considering the top is off alot. Also works good on black
trim.
- Shain
toscano2@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> Well after replacing my split binnicle I want to take extra good care
> of the new one and the entire dash for that matter.
>
> I had used Armor-All spray in the past but recently heard that it
> actually promotes the dash drying out...the last thing I need as
> my car is often parked in direct sunlight for hours on end.
>
> Any suggestions of a good commercial "dash conditioner"?
>
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> Well after replacing my split binnicle I want to take extra good care
> of the new one and the entire dash for that matter.
>
> I had used Armor-All spray in the past but recently heard that it
> actually promotes the dash drying out...the last thing I need as
> my car is often parked in direct sunlight for hours on end.
>
> Any suggestions of a good commercial "dash conditioner"?
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Door Openers
Date: 26-Aug-99 21:40:33 -0600
In responce to Mike's message regarding VPA inc. I found a VPA Inc. Company with the following info:
369 Blaine St
Corona, CA
(909)273.1033
They are listed as an Auto parts supplier & Importer.
Sounds like a cool product!
Michael Babb
vin 3472
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike
To: DMCNEWS
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 8:09 PM
Subject: [DML] Door Openers
For those that are interested,
Summit's catalog sells the remote door openers for $96.69 There made by the
VPA corp. from Riverside, CA.
The kit comes with: 2 remotes, 2 relays, 2 draw pull solinoids, 1 remote
module and mounting hardware. I have this unit installed in my DeLorean and
it works great. I have it set to lock, un-lock, open passengers door, and
open drivers door.
The part # is via-80158 Summits Tel. # 1800-230-3030
Or you can get it cheaper from VPA. Sorry can't find there #.
If you want more info please don't e-mail me right away I'll be out of the
country for the next two weeks.
Mike
vin#1113
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For those that are interested,
Summit's catalog sells the remote door openers for $96.69 There made by the
VPA corp. from Riverside, CA.
The kit comes with: 2 remotes, 2 relays, 2 draw pull solinoids, 1 remote
module and mounting hardware. I have this unit installed in my DeLorean and
it works great. I have it set to lock, un-lock, open passengers door, and
open drivers door.
The part # is via-80158 Summits Tel. # 1800-230-3030
Or you can get it cheaper from VPA. Sorry can't find there #.
If you want more info please don't e-mail me right away I'll be out of the
country for the next two weeks.
Mike
vin#1113
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Subject: [DML] Re: Good "conditioner" for dash?
Date: 26-Aug-99 22:47:10 -0500
> I had used Armor-All spray in the past but recently heard that it
> actually promotes the dash drying out...the last thing I need as
> my car is often parked in direct sunlight for hours on end.
> Any suggestions of a good commercial "dash conditioner"?
Don't use Lexol's vinyl treatment. Their leather treatment is great but the
vinyl treatment will dissolve the white markings on various control buttons.
Bruce Benson
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Subject: [DML] Gas flaps and inertia switches
Date: 26-Aug-99 23:58:42 -0400
Hi - please excuse two dumb questions from an (obviously) non-owner... what
are gas flaps and inertia switches???
Wayne and Rick
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Subject: [DML] Re: Clearcoat?
Date: 27-Aug-99 17:42:57 -0500
If you want to reduce scatches try a Scotch Brite pad.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Financing a D...
Date: 29-Aug-99 20:51:06 -0500
You sound a lot like i did when i first discovered DeLoreans. Wait a few
years till you finish your education and get a real job. You can set a goal
by telling yourself that you will be an owner before you reach a certain
age. My goal is to be an owner by the time I am 25. If I don't reach that
goal i might go on a rampage or something but I have plenty of time. I am 17
right now and I feel that If I can keep the dream alive in my heart till I
am an adult then owning a D will truly be something I have earned.
The key is not to rush into a purchase. Owning a D is a lot more than just
making payments and filling it with gas. These cars are 17 years old and I
am learning right now that even younger used cars take lots of money just to
keep them road worthy.
Keep the dream alive,
Steve Rice
>credit app. (I have good credit, but its only about 10 months old,
>and again, my income is not very high.) Any other suggestions?
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Subject: [DML] Re: st louis show?
Date: 29-Aug-99 22:44:59 -0500
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At 12:05 PM 8/29/99 PDT, Dan wrote:
>>>>
<excerpt>i was at the my classic car show in evansville indiana
where i talked to someone about a delorean expo that was to take place in
st
louis around sept. 3 or 4.
am i correct in my information
any help is appreciated
-dan
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The DeLorean Owners Association is hosting DeLorean Expo '99 -
Oktoberfest on October 7 - 10, 1999 at the Regal Riverfront Hotel
immediately in front of the "stainless steel" arch in St. Louis,
Missouri.
The Expo is open to all DeLorean owners and enthusiasts and includes a
driving rally, riverboat cruise, technical talks, DeLorean Concours and
Car Show, DeLorean Products fair, a Gala banquet in the Arch on Friday,
and an Oktoberfest Ball in the Hotel's Grand Ballroom on Saturday.
Complete details, and on-line registration are at:
http://www.delorean-owners.org/events/index.html
<bold><bigger>Save 10% by registering before September 1.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Problem with bad press
Date: 30-Aug-99 0:46:49 -0400
Folks,
This English tabloid writer is something else with his article.
I had many English cars in my life time ranging from Rolls Royces, Bentleys,
Jaguars, and other marques. I had driven many other English cars too. Some
are good and many are less desirable on my or anyone's list.
I still have a "Crew" manufactured 1957 Bentley since 1973. All of these
cars has and are plagued with problems. To start with, Lucas electrical
system! Need I say more? Wire for fire or hope for no smoke?
Did this tabloid writer every address these automotive problems of his own
country's marques? Many of my friends who are car connoisseurs jeer and
laugh at the English cars. I still kept the English car for what it is, for
its good or its bad.
The DeLorean is a considered an English manufactured motor car. It is made
in Ireland, so it is English? Maybe this writer don't like IRISH produced
cars from an American engineer?
Since his writing is so able and keen to surgically cut up the DeLorean
motorcar on its weakness, maybe he should put his criticisms where it is
necessary -- to help save his country's automotive industries. This writer
should have addressed his own country's automotive problems and manufactures
like R-R will not have fallen into BMW, Bentley will not fallen into VW and
Jaguar wouldn't have fallen into the Ford ownership. Which English auto
manufacture is next?
We, the DeLorean owners of the and users of the DMC-12, we understand our
cars and we know how wrong this writer is.
After all, Mr. John Z. DeLorean knew the problems with GM. He addressed it
by boosting GM from it financial down slide with his GTO. He had saved GM's
other branches with his great innovations for the Chevy Blazer and the
Corvette. He had "saved" GM several times and given it life back then.
"God Save the Queen" and the English Cars -- what ever is still left.
Kayo Ong
#05508
Lic 9D NY
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Subject: [DML] Re: Owning a D
Date: 29-Aug-99 21:49:04 -0700
I, too am a 19-year old waiting to own a D. I don't have an exact
answer to Dave's question about insurance, but as a male teenage
driver, auto insurance is sky-high as it is. The only problem that my
parents have with my wanting a De Lorean, is that the insurance would
be incredibly high. In fact, I think my mom's exact words were "Good
luck trying to get car insurance for a De Lorean at your age!"
As I said before, I do not own a D, but hope to soon. And, as a male,
teenage driver, I know that auto insurance is not cheap, especially if
you're tryimh to insure a De Lorean!!
Neil Blaze
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Dilemma
Date: 30-Aug-99 1:26:20 -0400
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On Sun, 29 Aug 1999, Cam Johnson wrote:
> I've noticed that the majority of posts on the mailing list are
> about mechanical features/fixes/problems (although I don't know what I
Subscribe to any car list. They all share a few common topics:
1) How do I fix my <foo>
2) How do I go faster?
3) I hate SUV's. :}
> am learning more every day thanks to you guys :))...does the DeLorean
> really have this many problems?!
For a 20-year-old exotic car, the DeLorean is amazingly reliable. It has
its share of little gremlins, though. Fortunately, the problems that it
has are all well documented and are all fixable. Many of them are fixable
permanently. And very few of them will ever leave you stranded.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Antenna question
Date: 29-Aug-99 23:38:19 -0700
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The first '81 Deloreans originally had windshield antennas. (P/N 100623).
Beginning with VIN 2711, the windshield was changed to one without an embedded
antenna (P/N 110076) and the antenna was moved to the right front fender
(Parts Bulletin PS-01-9/81). Since the embedded antenna version of
the windshield was no longer available, a replacement antenna kit (P/N
A5000010) was made available for the early VIN cars that needed a replacement
windshield. Service Bulletin ST-07-7/81 and its update, ST-12-9/81 gave
installation instructions.
<p>Parts Bulletin PI-04-12/81 (issued 12/17/81) states "A fully automatic
rear mounted radio antenna is now being installed on all DeLoreans"...
It does not give a VIN breakpoint. But it does state that this antenna
is also available as a kit (P/N 111291) for any owner who wants to convert
from either the embedded or right-front-fender mounted version.
<p>My car has all three versions. VIN 1141 came with (and still has)
the embedded antenna in the windshield. A replacement right front
fender (crash by a previous owner) has the hole for the mast antenna (with
a temporary plug until I begin restoration of the body). And to overcome
poor reception, I had the power antenna installed in the left rear.
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Subject: [DML] Re: DMC Size
Date: 30-Aug-99 1:18:17 -0700
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rob.van.der.vee-@twinsoft.nl wrote:
I don't know how muich 6'3" is, but I am 1m88 and I'm sitting
comfortably in my D. My dad's about 1m95 and even he doesn't have a
problem with it..
Yours,
Rob.
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=2440
> I am looking at purchasing a D. However I seem to notice that most
sports
> cars are made for people 4'5" and under. I was wondering if someone
who is
> 6'3" could fit comfortably in a D.
>
> Thank you for your time.
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Subject: [DML] Re: filter and sending unit
Date: 30-Aug-99 9:54:25 -0400
Bob,
We like the Fram Extra Guard PH-2870A. The sending unit is available from
all of the DeLorean part suppliers.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: rpcarrington <rpcarrington@email.msn.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] filter and sending unit
> Date: Sunday, August 29, 1999 10:29 PM
>
> First time question for group, Where should I get a oil sending unit for
by
> the oil filter, and what type oil filter can I buy at Pep Boys that will
> work on the D. Thanks Bob Vin 20003
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Subject: [DML] owning a D
Date: 30-Aug-99 6:58:28 -0700
i live on my own and own two cars, pay all me expenses, rent, utilities,
insurance on both cars, and paying back the loan on the Delorean. my
insurance on the Delorean is cheaper than my '88 Mazda 323. why? because my
Delorean is my secondary pleasure car....so State Farm says. I don't make a
lot of money. I have a good Computer Engineering job, but nothing too
great. I suggest before you purchase a delorean do what i did: make
yourself a monthly budget and stick to that. over months you will realize
how much money you are spending and where it is going. this really helped
me out. you DON'T want to go purchase a delorean thinking it will never
break down and now have any money put aside to fix it. If you have any more
questions about insurance or how to get a loan or anything like that, please
let me know. I will gladly share my information. I've been in your shoes.
Erik "egg" Geerdink
1981 Delorean
VIN# 4512
LIC. PLATE: EGGS D
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Subject: [DML] tinny sound
Date: 30-Aug-99 8:05:23 -0700
when i accelorate really fast, my engine makes this tinny noise, like a
tin can being flicked by your finger really fast. i've heard this
sound in just about every car i have riden in or drove, but i was just
wondering what makes that noise and how i can get rid of it. another
thing, when i turn right really hard, my front left makes a knocking
noise. PLEASE don't tell me its my U-joints....PLEASE!!
erik geerdink
vin 4512
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Subject: [DML] "Factory original" rear power antenna
Date: 30-Aug-99 10:07:53 -0500
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As I am learning from all the factory documentation and other "reading
material" we have here in Houston, just because a car caem from the dealer
with something, does not mean it came from the factory that way.
An example is the rear power antenna.
More than a thousand DeLoreans were shipped from the factory with NO
antenna at all, though they were fitted with a rear mounted power antennna
at QAC's here in the states.
We have the power antenna kits, complete with instructions available (part
# 111291).
There are many other things that were installed/fitted at the QACs prior to
delivery to dealers.
>>
>> That's interesting Joe. My 1981, #6419, was built in November 1981 and it
>> has the rear fender mounted power antenna (factory original).
>>
>>
>> Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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Subject: [DML] Delorean Quentin Wilson
Date: 30-Aug-99 16:13:02 +0100
The filming for the 'Car's the Star' has been completed and is due to be
shown in the near future, it is suggested around October. But will Quentin
have anything good to say or will it be a repeat of his paper article?. The
mirror news paper may target only a small percentage of the British people
but the television could put a very negative view of the Delorean to many
more people.
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Subject: [DML] door struts
Date: 30-Aug-99 8:19:44 -0700
Well, since I was obviously wrong about getting the struts rechargered
I now need to find a strut elsewhere. I know Pj Grady and DMC Houston
sell them, but i was wondering if someone out there has at least one
for sale. My drivers door sags a little and doesn't look too well in
pictures of the doors up. please e-mail me privately. Thanks again
erik geerdink
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Subject: [DML] Antennas
Date: 30-Aug-99 8:43:16 -0700
As a matter of a little antenna history....My work before I retired was in communications along electronic and computer lines. I have had all types of configurations in my cars over the years. I had one in a new Chev slung under the runn
For what its worth department!
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Vin: 5962 Lic: DMC-XII
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<DIV>As a matter of a little antenna history....My work before I retired
was in communications along electronic and computer lines. I have had all
types of configurations in my cars over the years. I had one in a new Chev
slung under the running boards encased in rubber! IT worked on local
stations. Then I had them embedded in the windshield in some
cars. NOTHING ever was as efficient as an exterior "whip": of some
sort and usually the longer the better...with FM, length is of some importance,
but AM doesn't matter so much. Basically, for receiving, the more wire in
the air the better. The earlier D's tried to eliminate external stuff on
the car apparently by building it into the windshield....for those days, it was
NOT a good idea, hence the switch to the various configuration of vertical
whips. My D is an 81 of October build date and has the left rear whip that
retracts out of site or extends when you turn the radio on. I
have had three Lincoln Continentals lately that all have both the AM and FM
antennas built into the glass. Back to the olden days...however with
modern electronic technology, these are tops and I could ask for nothing
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<DIV>Vin: 5962 Lic: DMC-XII</DIV>
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Dilemma/drawing
Date: 30-Aug-99 11:13:13 -0500
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At 05:31 PM 8/29/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>what kind of drawing ? when i was putting back on the interior of my
>car on the rigth side of the fiber glass it said al for king or
>something so i got a razor blade and wrote my name under my seat and
>the year does any one else have things like this in their car?
One day, while working on my D at the foreign car repair shop I work at,
another D pulled in. The owner, Mike (I think) and I got to talking and
comparing stuff on our cars. Since the headliner panels for the doors are
not mounted in my car, Mike sees all the magic marker writing on the
inside. He says he's got the same numbers drawn (with magic marker) in his
doors. 011001/37L (in red) for the left door and 011001/37R for the right.
There is also some black writing. Mine says "30/10 M.I."(poor penmanship)
and "4580 7051X" on the left and "2/13 C.H." on the right. Mike said he
thought his black numbers and initials defered slightly, but he had a bonus
piece of black drawn art work on his left door. It was a drawing of
familular looking face with big bushy sideburns and a smoke hanging out of
his mouth The caption read "Elvis is King." We jokingly wondered if Elvis
was big with the Irish UAW, or perhaps Elvis WAS still alive in the early
80's and was sporting a clean shaven face with strawberry blond colored hair.
Any other Elvis spottings in DeLoreans?
Todd "Project Car For Sure" B.
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Subject: [DML] THIS MAY BE A LONG SHOT!!!
Date: 30-Aug-99 13:07:01 -0400
Hello all Delorean lovers...
I went to www.delorean.com and it was just a black page with this writing on
it/
D=MC squared..You know with the little two on top of the D to mean that it
was squared.
Could this mean that DMC 2 is finally coming out.....I HOPE SO...
Let us await and find out.
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Date: 30-Aug-99 10:19:33 -0700
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<html>I've posted a few links to 'net listings of D's for sale on my <a href="http://members.home.net/rsrodgers">Website</a>. It's not a complete list, but a few you may not have seen.<br>
I've also posted my Service/Repair history, as have a few others (links on my page). My D is my primary car and has served pretty well over the last 25000 miles/3.5 years. I wonder how many of the problems reported on the DMC Newslist com
I had more problems with my VW Rabbit (made in Pennsylvania and purchased NEW) than I've had with my USED, 16 year old D!<br>
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Subject: [DML] Re: No Power/Low Voltage
Date: 30-Aug-99 13:23:37 -0400
Rich,
I had a similar problem about a year ago. The car would start and run, but
the acceleration was terrible. While taking it to the shop, I noticed that
it had low voltage, 9 and below, but at times would surge up to 12 and the
car would run fine. It turns out the alternator was going bad. Evidently
the fuel pump wasn't able to get enough power to pump with the low voltage
when I hit the accelerator. I had the alternator replaced and have not
experienced this problem since.
Brian
VIN 1597
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Subject: [DML] yet another question
Date: 30-Aug-99 12:23:47 -0700
My back brakes squeek like hell! What kind of pads go on the back? My
front pads are Porsche pads. Can i get them at the local auto store or
am I going to have to order some more stuff online? Thanks for the
help and sorry for all the questions I ask.
egg
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Subject: [DML] Re: Protecting Interior
Date: 30-Aug-99 14:33:21 -0500
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At 1:47 PM -0500 8/27/99, Mike Substelny wrote:
>Windshield reflectors do more than just make it more
>comfortable to enter your car on a hot
>day! When you plan on preserving your car for
>the long term, you should use a windshield
>reflector year round. Some people use a car cover,
>but it seems a shame to cover up such a
>beautiful car when it is out in public.
We have, on average, 15 DeLoreans in the shop at any given time. During the
day, approximately half of these cars will sit outside in our parking lot.
To combat the heat, and more importantly, the UV rays, we have developed a
custom fitted sunshade for the the DeLorean.
Made of the same material as the "outdoor" model Carcoon (www.carcoon.com),
this material is specifically designed for protection against 100 pecent of
the UV rays. To keep the heat out of the car it goes on the OUTSIDE of the
windshield (the "magnifying glass"), and is held in place with elasticized
corners and secured with a striker pin loop. We've been testing the latest
version of the prototype sunshade over the course of the summer.
Some tests we ran here with a black interior car, with our custom sunshade
and without showed a temperature difference of over 80 degrees (215 degrees
F vs 130 degrees F) in open sun on a 95 degree day. A third car with an
"accordion" style reflective sunshade was still about 180 degrees F.
http://www.usadmc.com/sunshade.html
I've been chomping at the bit to begin offering it to DeLorean owners, but
Stephen has wanted to make sure that it is perfect. I expect it to be
available in time for the SEDOC "Cruise-In" as well as the Expo in St.
Louis.
I've been using one of the prototypes in my car over the summer and I think
it'll also help prevent the a-pillar trim deformation that is so common on
cars that spend any time in the sun.
James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas
281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
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Subject: [DML] Re: Owning a D
Date: 30-Aug-99 15:59:14 -0400
In a message dated 8/30/99 12:38:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DLoff80@aol.com
writes:
<< if I got it to leave it in the garage becuase they would not
insure me on such a car/....
Erik how do you do it, and if there are any other 19 yeara olds out there
that own one, how do you guys do it? And, is it possible for a kid that has
to pay ALL his bills to own one? >>
Dave, the answer is "yes & no." ANY car is expensive to insure under your
own name when you're 19, which is why most teenagers try to get on their
parent's policy, even if they are the ones who actually pay for it. At least
you may get a multicar discount. State Farm (NJ) insures based on a
recognized appraised value. The price is not bad, but I'm not a single male
under 25! Shop around.
As far as 19 year olds owning one... my 16 year old son owns a '55 Chevy
Belair - he's also a big DeLorean fan. He paid off the car himself by
working in the family business after school hours. Now he's working to save
up for a frame off resto since the bottom is seriously rusted. He paid $2500
and it runs, though he has years of work ahead of him... and a lot of money.
I've never seen a D sell that cheap though. Once you get down to around
$5000 or below, you have a car which doesn't run and needs a lot of work and
$$$. Owning a beautiful collector car has it's good points but it isn't a
cheap hobby. And don't believe the appealing gearhead fantasy that "whatever
you put into it you'll get back when you sell it." Unless you're rich
enough to buy a creampuff, are very lucky, and wait 30 years, that won't
neccesarily happen. I'm not just saying DeLoreans. Buy a run down '81
Corvette and spend $20 or 30 thousand making it like new, and do you have car
worth $20,000? Probably not. Do it for the love of it, like any hobby, or
don't do it.
I paid for my son's car, registered it in my name since he was too young, and
let him pay me back in installments. (No pay- we sell it!) But he has been
faithful to work hard and pay for it all. If you have no family support like
that, better to enjoy shows and reading about them, join a club, save up and
get one when you can affiord one you can drive away in. One of the nicest
ones I've seen cost $15,000. Good luck!
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Date: 30-Aug-99 16:09:06 -0400
Hello all,
As a 19 year old owner of a Delorean, I cant say I have had any problems with
insuring my D with American Family insurance. I pay $250 every six months, it
is not listed as my primary car by the way.
Andrew
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Subject: [DML] Just checking...
Date: 30-Aug-99 16:31:40 -0400
JZD's birthday is Jan 6th or am I confused? Also, a while ago I got a PO Box
address for him in Pluckemin. Would this be the right address to use to send
him a card?
~Rick
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Subject: [DML] Re: No Power/Low Voltage
Date: 30-Aug-99 16:49:29 -0400
In-reply-to: <4F9E5BEC>.24f95208
On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 RichieKula@aol.com wrote:
> It sounds like the alternator except that I don't understand why there
> was no acceleration? It is a 5-speed. Have any of you experienced
> this in their D before?
An electrical problem in your ignition system can cause this. It's
possible that you have a problem with a spark coil, a grounding problem,
or a distributor problem.
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Date: 30-Aug-99 18:41:44 -0400
Rob,
Be sure the seat is pushed to its rear most position and the seat back is
adjusted so that it rests against the edge of the parcel shelf.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: rob.van.der.veer@twinsoft.nl
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: DMC Size
> Date: Monday, August 30, 1999 4:18 AM
>
> rob.van.der.vee-@twinsoft.nl wrote:
>
> I don't know how muich 6'3" is, but I am 1m88 and I'm sitting
> comfortably in my D. My dad's about 1m95 and even he doesn't have a
> problem with it..
>
> Yours,
>
> Rob.
>
>
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=2440
> > I am looking at purchasing a D. However I seem to notice that most
> sports
> > cars are made for people 4'5" and under. I was wondering if someone
> who is
> > 6'3" could fit comfortably in a D.
> >
> > Thank you for your time.
> >
> >
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Subject: [DML] Re: tinny sound
Date: 30-Aug-99 18:49:09 -0400
This "tinny sound" occurs in my car as well. I kinda think it sounds like a
ticking of a lawn mower. I know what the problem is in my D, the exhaust
gaskets need replacing. From what I understand, this is a common problem
with cars that have sat a long time. Maybe this is your problem too. Good
luck.
Darren Decker
#5000
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Subject: [DML] Re: tinny sound
Date: 30-Aug-99 19:02:50 -0400
erik,
There are two possible causes for the noise that you describe. Pre-ignition
commonly called "pinging" (rare in DeLorean's) it is a serious condition
that could cause serious harm to the internal engine components.
It could also be an exhaust gasket leak. If it's the gasket it won't effect
engine operation, it just sounds bad.
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> From: delorean502@excite.com
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] tinny sound
> Date: Monday, August 30, 1999 11:05 AM
>
> when i accelorate really fast, my engine makes this tinny noise, like a
> tin can being flicked by your finger really fast. i've heard this
> sound in just about every car i have riden in or drove, but i was just
> wondering what makes that noise and how i can get rid of it. another
> thing, when i turn right really hard, my front left makes a knocking
> noise. PLEASE don't tell me its my U-joints....PLEASE!!
>
> erik geerdink
> vin 4512
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Antennas
Date: 30-Aug-99 19:36:54 -0400
Murray brings up an interesting subject. Radio sensitive technology has
improved drastically since the late 70's when the factory installed units
were designed. This deficiency is what made the windshield antennas a bad
choice.
I would like to see if today's auto radio technology coupled with the
windshield antenna would make for satisfactory reception.
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From: Murray Fisher <murrayf@innw.net>
To: DeLorean <dmcnews@egroups.com>
Subject: [DML] Antennas
Date: Monday, August 30, 1999 11:43 AM
As a matter of a little antenna history....My work before I retired was in
communications along electronic and computer lines. I have had all types
of configurations in my cars over the years. I had one in a new Chev slung
under the running boards encased in rubber! IT worked on local stations.
Then I had them embedded in the windshield in some cars. NOTHING ever was
as efficient as an exterior "whip": of some sort and usually the longer the
better...with FM, length is of some importance, but AM doesn't matter so
much. Basically, for receiving, the more wire in the air the better. The
earlier D's tried to eliminate external stuff on the car apparently by
building it into the windshield....for those days, it was NOT a good idea,
hence the switch to the various configuration of vertical whips. My D is
an 81 of October build date and has the left rear whip that retracts out of
site or extends when you turn the radio on. I have had three Lincoln
Continentals lately that all have both the AM and FM antennas built into
the glass. Back to the olden days...however with modern electronic
technology, these are tops and I could ask for nothing better.
For what its worth department!
Murray
Vin: 5962 Lic: DMC-XII
Washington State
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Subject: [DML] Antenna/VIN #'s
Date: 30-Aug-99 16:51:48 -0700
To Mike Babb:
You are correct. Your antenna has been changed. You did not say if you had
the plug in the front fender, but if not, your car came with the windshield
antenna. I say this because my VIN (3507, Aug '81) is only 35 numbers higher
than yours and I have the fender mounted one (which I now use for a C.B.
radio since I installed the rear retractable one a few years ago). With our
numbers so close together it seems that the change from windshield to fender
mount happened somewhere between VIN 3472 and 3507 !! ( I'm sure James Espey
or DMC Joe have the exact Vin number).
To Richard Strecker:
See above. Your antenna on VIN #2320 was originally in the windshield also.
To all:
I hope this isn't boring everyone, since there was some question about
antenna location and VIN number. I actually think it looks nice with the two
antennas, one on each side.
To Hank Breer:
Efren Hicks says your car has windshield, fender, and rear antennas. With
your low VIN number, I wonder how you got the windshield AND the fender
mounted one at the same time? Fender replacement?
Greg Linstad
Pacific Northwest Delorean Club
VIN # 3507 116,000+ miles
Washington plate "RUSTLSS"
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Subject: [DML] Fanzilla question
Date: 30-Aug-99 17:01:09 -0700
I've installed the fanzilla but had an operational question.
The obvious decrease in power is no longer apparent as the fans cycle on and off but the clicking noise is still there and seems about as frequent as before. Is this the normal operation of the unit or have I installed it incorrectly ? Af
Vin 2528
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Subject: [DML] Re:Stainless Louvers
Date: 30-Aug-99 20:33:30 -0400
At a party the other night I was talking with my friend's cousin who has an
'83 D. SHE informed me that it was one of the last '83's (assembled by
KAPAC) and had STAINLESS LOUVERS! I've been on the DML for a while, but I've
never heard any mention of these stainless louvers. I'm looking forward to
seeing the car and was just wondering if anyone knows any more about the
stainless louvers.
Steve
VIN 2650
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Dilemma/drawing
Date: 30-Aug-99 20:24:42 -0600
I have taken the "head fitted" headliners out of my car for cleaning, and didn't find any cool drawings. I think that this can be the start of an interesting "chronology" of sorts. I am currently working on rebuilding my website, and woul
If anyone is interested (and finds anything interesting drawn or written in their car, send me a pic, and the stats (Year, VIN, etc) and I will start putting this stuff together on a page.
Michael Babb
michael.babb@mindspring.com
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(very unfinished)
----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Bankhead
To: dmcnews@egroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 10:13 AM
Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Dilemma/drawing
At 05:31 PM 8/29/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>what kind of drawing ? when i was putting back on the interior of my
>car on the rigth side of the fiber glass it said al for king or
>something so i got a razor blade and wrote my name under my seat and
>the year does any one else have things like this in their car?
One day, while working on my D at the foreign car repair shop I work at,
another D pulled in. The owner, Mike (I think) and I got to talking and
comparing stuff on our cars. Since the headliner panels for the doors are
not mounted in my car, Mike sees all the magic marker writing on the
inside. He says he's got the same numbers drawn (with magic marker) in his
doors. 011001/37L (in red) for the left door and 011001/37R for the right.
There is also some black writing. Mine says "30/10 M.I."(poor penmanship)
and "4580 7051X" on the left and "2/13 C.H." on the right. Mike said he
thought his black numbers and initials defered slightly, but he had a bonus
piece of black drawn art work on his left door. It was a drawing of
familular looking face with big bushy sideburns and a smoke hanging out of
his mouth The caption read "Elvis is King." We jokingly wondered if Elvis
was big with the Irish UAW, or perhaps Elvis WAS still alive in the early
80's and was sporting a clean shaven face with strawberry blond colored hair.
Any other Elvis spottings in DeLoreans?
Todd "Project Car For Sure" B.
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<DIV>I have taken the "head fitted" headliners out of my car for cleaning, and
didn't find any cool drawings. I think that this can be the start of an
interesting "chronology" of sorts. I am currently working on rebuilding my
website, and would love to have stuff like this on it. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If anyone is interested (and finds anything interesting drawn or written in
their car, send me a pic, and the stats (Year, VIN, etc) and I will start
putting this stuff together on a page.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<TD><PRE>At 05:31 PM 8/29/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>what kind of drawing ? when i was putting back on the interior of my
>car on the rigth side of the fiber glass it said al for king or
>something so i got a razor blade and wrote my name under my seat and
>the year does any one else have things like this in their car?
One day, while working on my D at the foreign car repair shop I work at,
another D pulled in. The owner, Mike (I think) and I got to talking and
comparing stuff on our cars. Since the headliner panels for the doors are
not mounted in my car, Mike sees all the magic marker writing on the
inside. He says he's got the same numbers drawn (with magic marker) in his
doors. 011001/37L (in red) for the left door and 011001/37R for the right.
There is also some black writing. Mine says "30/10 M.I."(poor penmanship)
and "4580 7051X" on the left and "2/13 C.H." on the right. Mike said he
thought his black numbers and initials defered slightly, but he had a bonus
piece of black drawn art work on his left door. It was a drawing of
familular looking face with big bushy sideburns and a smoke hanging out of
his mouth The caption read "Elvis is King." We jokingly wondered if Elvis
was big with the Irish UAW, or perhaps Elvis WAS still alive in the early
80's and was sporting a clean shaven face with strawberry blond colored hair.
Any other Elvis spottings in DeLoreans?
Todd "Project Car For Sure" B.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Re:Stainless Louvers
Date: 30-Aug-99 21:46:46 -0500
In-reply-to: <73416B08>.24fc7cda
You weren't talking to Virginia Hodges were you? She's the onlyother one I
know of that had SS louvres - she used to lurk on the DML, she may still be
out there now.
Someone said that they used to be for sale as an aftermarket item sold in
DeLorean World, but I have not ready or seen anything here in Houston or
Columbus that indicated they were ever a factory item.
James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas
281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
http://www.usadmc.com
At 7:33 PM -0500 8/30/99, Jus4sho@aol.com wrote:
>At a party the other night I was talking with my friend's cousin who has an
>'83 D. SHE informed me that it was one of the last '83's (assembled by
>KAPAC) and had STAINLESS LOUVERS! I've been on the DML for a while, but I've
>never heard any mention of these stainless louvers. I'm looking forward to
>seeing the car and was just wondering if anyone knows any more about the
>stainless louvers.
>
>Steve
> VIN 2650
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Subject: [DML] Re: Fanzilla question
Date: 30-Aug-99 22:52:38 -0400
Steve,
Two items will cause frequent clicking in the electrical compartment. You
either have the original 25 amp cooling fan circuit breaker which would
need to be up-graded to a 40 amp. If the 40 amp is installed than you have
a low freon charge.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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From: Steve Pattison <stevep1@home.com>
To: dmcnews@egroups.com
Subject: [DML] Fanzilla question
Date: Monday, August 30, 1999 8:01 PM
I've installed the fanzilla but had an operational question.
The obvious decrease in power is no longer apparent as the fans cycle on
and off but the clicking noise is still there and seems about as frequent
as before. Is this the normal operation of the unit or have I installed it
incorrectly ? After all, the installation is so easy.
Vin 2528
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Subject: [DML] Re: Antenna question
Date: 30-Aug-99 22:57:50 -0400
At 09:22 PM 8/29/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Interesting. #2423 has a windshield, while my car (aug 81) #3472 has a
power antenna....although it could have been changed at a later date. Any
owners with Vin #'s after mine that originally had a front fender antenna?
>
>Michael Babb
>Vin 3472
My Vin #3542 has the front fender, fixed mast antenna.I believe it to be
original.
Steve Jarvis
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Subject: [DML] DMCDean@aol.com (Delorean for sale)
Date: 31-Aug-99 0:12:31 -0400
I got an e-mail from DMCDean@aol.com in which he told me he may have a
delorean that I want to purchase, but he isn't accepting any e-mail so this
is the only way I can reach him, so if you are out there please e-mail me and
change your AOL so you can accept e-mail from my account
Don
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Subject: [DML] Tire Balancing
Date: 31-Aug-99 2:55:21 -0400
I recently purcahsed the Yokohamas for my D. I was wondering how many owners
have had them spin balanced while on the car or do most people just balance
the tires on the rims while they are off the car? Before I search for a shop
that can spin balance on the car, is the ride just as well if I have my
mechanic balance them while he has them off the car? Also should the
alignment be checked or anything else done while changing the tires?
Gary
VIN3360
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Date: 31-Aug-99 8:27:01 -0400
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>I got an e-mail from DMCDean@aol.com in which he told me he may have a
>delorean that I want to purchase, but he isn't accepting any e-mail so this
>is the only way I can reach him, so if you are out there please e-mail me and
>change your AOL so you can accept e-mail from my account
>
try dmcdean@aol.com with no caps
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Subject: [DML] Re: tinny sound
Date: 31-Aug-99 8:41:37 -0400
> delorean502@excite.com wrote:
>
> when i accelorate really fast, my engine makes this tinny noise, like a
> tin can being flicked by your finger really fast. i've heard this
> sound in just about every car i have riden in or drove, but i was just
> wondering what makes that noise and how i can get rid of it.
It could easily be pre-ignition. An easy way to find out is to run your
gas tank nearly empty and then fill up with the best grade of premium gas
you can find (at least 93 octane). If the pinging is pre-ignition it
should go away with the premium gasoline. If not, back to the drawing
board, but you will have eliminated pre-ignition as the problem.
> another thing, when i turn right really hard, my front left makes a knocking
> noise. PLEASE don't tell me its my U-joints....PLEASE!!
OK, I won't. I assume you are talking about a DeLorean here. I am not
aware of any DeLoreans that were built with U-joints in the front. (Could
there have been a 4-wheel drive version??!! Man, talk about a goer in the
snow!!)
Regards,
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
Midlothian, VA
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Subject: [DML] Re: THIS MAY BE A LONG SHOT!!!
Date: 31-Aug-99 7:49:15 -0500
That Web page/domain name is registered to James Espey, former list
moderator and now DMC-Houston employee. I don't think he is building a new
Delorean. I think he is having fun.
David Hill
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Subject: [DML] THIS MAY BE A LONG SHOT!!!
> Hello all Delorean lovers...
>
> I went to www.delorean.com and it was just a black page with this writing
on
> it/
>
> D=MC squared..You know with the little two on top of the D to mean that it
> was squared.
>
> Could this mean that DMC 2 is finally coming out.....I HOPE SO...
> Let us await and find out.
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Antenna/VIN #'s
Date: 31-Aug-99 6:06:29 -0700
I think that on my window sticker one of the options listed is a power rear
mounted antenna-- it was typed with a different printer (or typewriter,
after all it was in 1981)
Brian
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Subject: [DML] VIN Upgrades?
Date: 31-Aug-99 9:34:01 -0400
A short quick question for the experts. (But maybe not easy.)
I realize that certain production changes and upgrades were incorporated into the
production DeLoreans all along, but is there any beginning VIN where most of the
earlier problems were resolved via production changes? Does anyone have a breakout
of VIN's by major production changes or upgrades? For example, I know that some of
the earliest VIN's had a rather anemic alternator that could not keep up with the
car's maximum electrical demands. Johnny Carson knows all too well about that one.
I was wondering if my DeLorean, being a "later" VIN (6419), came from the factory,
or a QAC, with most of the production changes/upgrades in place. I have never had
a problem (so far) that required an after-the-fact "upgrade" to solve. I do know
that my car, with a rear power antenna, was built (11-81) BEFORE the rear power
antenna Service Bulletin was published (12-81) according to DMC Joe. But according
to James Espy my car could have left the factory without ANY antenna and the antenna
later installed at a QAC. Some other changes/upgrades could have been installed by
the QAC or the dealer before I acquired the car in late '82. Could the dealer
possibly have been mandated by DMC to install any upgrades before the car was sold?
This car was sold new after the 1982 production model began.
Regards,
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
Midlothian, VA
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Subject: [DML] Antenna Technology Idea
Date: 31-Aug-99 9:39:03 -0400
DMC Joe wrote:
> . . . Radio sensitive technology has improved drastically since
> the late 70's when the factory installed units were designed. [SNIP]
> I would like to see if today's auto radio technology coupled
> with the windshield antenna would make for satisfactory reception.
Next chance you get take a look at one of the GM "Dustbuster" minivans (Lumina APV /
Silhouette / TranSport). You will not see any radio antenna at all. These minivans achieved
their smooth, futuristic look thanks to technology of the early 90s, which allowed the antenna
to be built inside the rear part of the roof (which I believe is plastic).
I own both a TranSport with an in-roof antenna and a DeLorean with an in-windshield antenna,
and I can attest to the fact that the TranSport gets *much* better radio reception than the
DeLorean, especially on AM. Good as it is, the TranSport's radio reception is still not quite
as clear as a car with a whip antenna.
I have often wondered if this same technology could be used to build an antenna inside or
under the rear sunshade louvers of a DeLorean. That would achieve both the look Guigaro
intended and the radio performance owners expect.
Do any electrical engineers out there feel up to the challenge?
- Mike Substelny
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Subject: [DML] Premium Gasoline
Date: 31-Aug-99 8:03:06 -0600
Ed Thompson said to use the "best grade of premium gas you can find (at
least 93 octane)". The highest octane level available in many, many places
is less than 93. Here in the mountains of Colorado, 91 is tops. FWIW.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Subject: [DML] Re: DMCDean@aol.com (Delorean for sale)
Date: 31-Aug-99 10:55:48 -0400
In a message dated 8/31/99 9:04:12 AM Central Daylight Time,
mgrwburns@macconnect.com writes:
<< try dmcdean@aol.com with no caps >>
Will,
On America Online it doesn't matter if you type in capitals or not.
What I think happened is that dmcdean set up his preferences so that he can't
receive e-mails from certain people. AOL allows you to fine tune who you
want and who you don't want to see you online and to contact you online.
Hope this helps.
Later,
Nick
VIN#1852....still for sale e-mail for info
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Subject: [DML] Antenna
Date: 31-Aug-99 8:25:59 -0700
My original window sticker just shows, under Standard Equipment: "AM/FM Stereo Radio W/Cassette". Nothing at all is said about an antenna. Under Optional Equipment, it only shows "3-Speed Automatic Transmission", $650. The "Port of Entr
.
The build date was October 81, but the selling date to the original owner, was exactly a year later on the day DeLorean was put in cuffs for the alleged (disproven) drug dealing. FWIW.
Murray
Vin: 5962 Lic: DMC-XII
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Subject: [DML] Re: Antenna Technology Idea
Date: 31-Aug-99 11:26:21 -0400
I have some experience with Radio and Antenna technology, having worked
on Cordless Telephone projects. I am sure some Ammeter Radio (HAM) guys
on the list may be more qualified to talk about this than me, but my few
years working on Cordless Phones did teach me a few things.
While it is true that radio receiver technology has improved over the
years with more accurate local oscillators, digital tuners and higher
tolerance components, I don't think this will have a huge effect on
improved radio performance in the D.
I have never opened up the stock Delorean radio, but I expect that in
general the radios are not as good as they were 15 years ago. Age effect
the stability of the components used to tune the radio. The radio
could be re-tuned with the proper equipment, but sometimes in the long
run this will cause more problems.
Sad to day, but most of the stock stereo's found in todays new cars are
better than after market replacements as far as radio reception goes.
This is not because they have come up with some new wiz-bank radio
technology, it is because they are starting to use a not-so-new idea of
antenna diversity.
Most of the new cars have multiple antenna's (usually two). The
antennas are designed and placed such that in some cases one will be
better than the other. Inside the radio, there is a RSSI circuit that
can decide which antenna is getting a better signal, and use that one.
This is system is running all of the time, so if your turn a corner and
the environment is such that the "inactive" antenna is better, the radio
switches to that one.
This all works because of the way radio signals travel, and bounce. The
Physics involved with all of that is out of my scope.
The technology has been around for many years. The first time I saw it
used in a car was my parents 1988 Mazda. There were two antennas in the
car, and the radio never had static. On the front of the radio was a
label "Antenna Diversity".
Now, Back to the D. Most of the work of Antenna Diversity is done by
the receiver itself. I have not yet seen any after market stereo
companies that offer Antenna Diversity, so unless someone is going to
redesign the radio receiver, I don't think it is going to happen.
If your goal is to just get rid of the mast antenna, then a dipole
antenna under the louvers MAY work, but the antenna will now be
horizontal instead of vertical. This changes the property of the
antenna pattern such that when you turn a corner a station that was
clear before will quickly be gone. This is of course THEORY, and may
work in practice anyway depending on the RF environment in your area.
Most of the Diversity systems I have seen use both a Vertical and
Horizontal antenna, but a horizontal alone (in THEORY) will not be as
good for this application.
On that same idea, the windshield antenna is both horizontal and
vertical. It travels vertically up the center of the windshield, and
then splits left and right horizontal across the top. This is a similar
design to the freebie antennas that come with home stereo systems. I
have never been able to get a decent signal from those antennas here in
Central New Jersey. With all of the RF noise in New Jersey, those
antennas receive TOO MUCH!
And after all of that, your back were you started. Might as well just
try it. I am sure you can find some formulas (Or finished designs) on
the net to get the proper length for a dipole to cover the standard
radio frequencies.
Mike Substelny wrote:
>
> DMC Joe wrote:
>
> > . . . Radio sensitive technology has improved drastically since
> > the late 70's when the factory installed units were designed. [SNIP]
>
> > I would like to see if today's auto radio technology coupled
> > with the windshield antenna would make for satisfactory reception.
>
<SNIP>
> I have often wondered if this same technology could be used to build an antenna inside or
> under the rear sunshade louvers of a DeLorean. That would achieve both the look Guigaro
> intended and the radio performance owners expect.
>
> Do any electrical engineers out there feel up to the challenge?
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Subject: [DML] James Espey and delorean.com
Date: 31-Aug-99 8:48:12 -0700
A couple years ago when "delorean.com" came up available after the
previous registrant failed to pay the bill, my friend Chris Rabalais
registered it in his name. Chris and I had the good fortune of meeting
with John DeLorean in July of 1998 at his home in Bedminster. At that
time, JZD was offered the use of the domain name should he ever desire
to use it.
Chris recently took a new job in Costa Rica and we transferred the
domain name to me. Another meeting with DeLorean took place earlier
this month and he inquired about the use of the domain name. The
changes you are now seeing are a result of that meeting.
All the parties involved in the most recent meeting signed
non-disclosure agreements with Mr. DeLorean. I will continue to own the
domain name, but I am not making the changes to the website, nor do I
have any control over the content.
James Espey
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Date: 31-Aug-99 11:59:44 -0400
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I have not yet seen any after market stereo
>companies that offer Antenna Diversity, so unless someone is going to
>redesign the radio receiver, I don't think it is going to happen.
Sony MobileES components AND Pioneer Premiere components come with
diversity tuning for the most part, I believe some higher end JVC receivers
do too
Will
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Subject: [DML] Re: Tire Balancing
Date: 31-Aug-99 12:27:26 -0400
Gary,
The DeLorean suspension and steering system will perform best when
adjustments are within a very narrow range of the specified tolerances. The
'on the car spin balance" is a more conclusive procedure.
The standard, Pep Boys, type computer balance procedures balance the tire
to the wheel. The "on the car spin balance" the wheels to the body.
In more simple terms, the on the car spin balance system greatly reduces
the common situation of taking your DeLorean into the alignment shop and
quickly returning as soon as you drive at speed when you discover that you
get wheel shimmy and or body vibration at certain speeds.
A front and rear alignment is highly recommended when ever you replace the
tires on your DeLorean.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: DeLorean31@aol.com
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Tire Balancing
> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 2:55 AM
>
> I recently purchased the Yokohamas for my D. I was wondering how many
owners
> have had them spin balanced while on the car or do most people just
balance
> the tires on the rims while they are off the car? Before I search for a
shop
> that can spin balance on the car, is the ride just as well if I have my
> mechanic balance them while he has them off the car? Also should the
> alignment be checked or anything else done while changing the tires?
>
> Gary
> VIN3360
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Subject: [DML] antenna types, hood types, etc.
Date: 31-Aug-99 11:53:36 -0500
THe recent discussion on hoods, antennas and VINs reminded me of the
DeLorean Production Chronology, which I started a few years back and is
currentlybeing updated under the eyes of Knut Grimsrud and Ken Montgomery.
The DPC only tracks VINs, interior colors and transmission types. The other
items (hoods, antennas, muffler tips) are easily changed in comparison to
the other items. Also, all of the factory documentation I have seen only
tracks interior color and transmission types.
There ARE some memos, etc reagrding when various production changes were
made, and that material forms the basis for the new concours manual that I
am readying for the show in St. Louis.
James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas
281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
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Subject: [DML] ding rollout
Date: 31-Aug-99 11:13:21 -0700
i have a small ding in the passenger side rear quarter panel. It's
right on the wheel well and very easy to get to without having to
remove the panel. My question is: is there a way to roll that out
myself? Its such a small ding, i would have to throw away $250 just to
get it removed.
erik
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Subject: [DML] Clearcoat?
Date: 31-Aug-99 11:17:07 -0700
Does anyone know of anyone else applying clearcoat to their D? I think
it wouldn't be sucha bad idea therefore reducing scratches and it would
still have the nice stainless look to it.
Mike Kadonoff
82' 244 GLT (at least it has the same fuel system as a D)
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Subject: [DML] Spin Balancing
Date: 31-Aug-99 11:35:06 -0700
Perhaps I'm jealous of what must be available elsewhere, but the spin
balancing recommendation must be treated as one of those "nice to have"
--as opposed to necessary -- things.
I recently called every tire shop, alignment shop, etc. in Denver, Fort
Collins and Boulder. NONE of them did on the car balancing and they said
that they knew of no one in the area who did this anymore. I asked why and
they all said "because it didn't do a better job and it was dangerous".
Yes, a couple of them were high performance/race car places.
I went with a local place that does computer controlled balancing (off the
car) and alignment. I just completed 4000 miles in two weeks and never has
the car steered, cornered or just plain ridden smoother.
Oh, I found a place in Denver than does industrial vibration dampening and
they said they could do on the car balancing, but wondered why I wanted
such. They also said they charge by the hour and have a minimum!!
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Subject: [DML] Re: Antenna Technology Idea
Date: 31-Aug-99 14:44:29 -0400
This is not quite the same as Antenna Diversity. I own a new MobilES
unit (CDXE-7850) and it does not have any obvious way of hooking a
second antenna to it. Of course, I did not read the instructions that
came with it. :)
I found on the sony web site they have a feature called "Adaptive
Reception", and is defined as follows:
Adaptive Reception:
Sony's proprietary SSIR-EX
tuner technology which can
actually adjust the tuner's
bandwidth, depending on
current environmental
conditions. Improved sound
quality and adjacent station
interference result.
Adaptive Reception is not Antenna Diversity, and I would guess this
technology improves radio performance similar to Antenna Diversity so
the combination of both would be a major improvement.
Will wrote:
>
> I have not yet seen any after market stereo
> >companies that offer Antenna Diversity, so unless someone is going to
> >redesign the radio receiver, I don't think it is going to happen.
>
> Sony MobileES components AND Pioneer Premiere components come with
> diversity tuning for the most part, I believe some higher end JVC receivers
> do too
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Premium Gasoline
Date: 31-Aug-99 15:05:48 -0400
> Ed Thompson said to use the "best grade of premium gas you can find (at
> least 93 octane)". The highest octane level available in many, many places
> is less than 93. Here in the mountains of Colorado, 91 is tops. FWIW.
Yes Dick, this I did say. But I also said "best grade you can FIND". I guess
I wasn't thinking about the folks that live in the clouds on purpose where
real gasoline isn't readily available. If Erik does live in or near the high
mountains of Colorado he can go to a good speed shop and get an octane booster.
That's not a problem. Actually that would be even a better test for troubleshooting
the pinging if it is pre-ignition. He could boost the octane up to 95 or even 97
to eliminate the possibility trying a lower octane that might be marginal and not
sufficient to overcome the pre-ignition.
Or he could come here to Virginia and gas up at sea level with 93 octane. I have
a Chevy van that is supposed to run on "regular" gas (at 87 octane) but if I do
I consistently get pre-ignition. If I use mid-grade (89 octane) I get occasional
pre-ignition under heavily acceleration. If I use premium (93 octane at sea level)
it goes away completely. (No, it does not need a tune-up nor is the timing "off".)
I also have a Corvette that has a much more powerful engine and it will run fine
on any grade gasoline because it has a "spark knock listening" device and a circuit
that automatically adjusts fuel and/or spark settings to eliminate knock. Of course
in the process the engine is "de-tuned" and it loses some power. So I only use
premium grade in it too. As far as I know the DeLorean doesn't have any spark
knock detection device (except for the driver's ear). The DeLorean is supposed to
run fine on regular grade fuel but I have always used premium grades in mine.
It occurred to me that if Erik does have a pre-ignition problem it could be that
the engine was tuned for one altitude and was later moved to a significantly
different altitude without properly tuning the engine for the new altitude.
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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Subject: [DML] electrical problem
Date: 31-Aug-99 12:44:09 -0700
The "key in the ignition w/ door open" buzzer stays on all the time,
just a little bit, barely audible. This continues when the car is shut
down and the key removed causing the battery to lose charge overnight.
Is it a bad relay?? which one?? Please help I need to fix it up to
sell and don't want to pass on any problems.
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Date: 31-Aug-99 14:47:51 -0500
I tried emailing you but I couldn't get through for some reason... anyways
please send me the info of the delorean, I am very interested in it.
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Subject: [DML] Door clips roof when opening
Date: 31-Aug-99 16:04:57 -0400
I just got my Delorean and I'm curious is there any way I can adjust the
door. When I open it ketches on the front corner. Not bad but its
starting to leave a marks on the door and I don't want it to get any
worst..
http://www.gate.net/~starbuck/dmcdoor.jpg
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Subject: [DML] Re: Tire Balancing
Date: 31-Aug-99 16:38:51 -0400
> DeLorean31@aol.com wrote:
>
> I was wondering how many owners have had them spin balanced while on the car
> or do most people just balance the tires on the rims while they are off the car?
Race cars have been mentioned as having the "tires" balanced on the car but no
one has offered any particular reasoning for that. While the tires and wheels
are being balanced on a race car, so is everything else that rotates, the disc
brake rotor, the axle, and even the lug nuts (or wheel knock-off as it were).
When race car wheels spin at near 300 MPH or even higher, even the slightest
imbalance in the drive train can be a problem. You're not going to have that
problem with your DeLorean. The off-car balancing, if done properly, is more
than sufficient for any speeds you will be driving. The key here is "if done
properly". Any grease monkey can attempt to balance a tire/wheel assembly off
the car using a computerized balancing machine. There is a little more to it
(not much) than just sticking the wheel/tire on the machine and pushing
buttons. Correct interpretation of the readings and placement of the weights
are critical. But the same is true for on-car balancing. The difference is
that the mechanic that does on-car balancing is more likely to know what he
doing than the tire jock at K-Mart who was a shoe salesman yesterday, therefore
he's qualified, and who learned how to use the balancing machine during his lunch
hour today. If you want the best balancing and alignment service, go to a
specialty shop.
As an aside, if you did balance the wheel/tire on the car and the wheel is later
taken off for any reason and not put back on exactly in the same position you have
lost any advantage. Splitting hairs, the lug nuts would have to be put back on
the exact same studs they came off of as well.
> Also should the alignment be checked or anything else done while changing
> the tires?
This is a no-brainer. Absolutely the alignment should be checked. Whenever I have
new tires installed I drive on the new tires for a few hundred miles before doing
an alignment to allow for a "break-in" period. With newer high-tech tire
manufacturing techniques, this probably isn't necessary but I do it anyhow. I also
drive at least 100 miles before having an alignment done when changing out any
suspension component such as shocks. When changing tires, all suspension components
should be thoroughly inspected such as shocks, ball joints, tie rod ends, and any
other moving suspension part, including flexible brake lines.
BTW, if you have altered ANYTHING that changes original suspension specifications
such as wheel and/or tire size, or lowered/raised the suspended component, the
factor original alignment specifications the mechanic uses may no longer be valid.
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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Subject: [DML] Re: Spin Balancing
Date: 31-Aug-99 17:49:27 -0400
Dick,
I know what you mean, we are lucky here in Atlanta to have a shop that
routinely performs spin balances at rates just slightly more than Pep
Boys.
I am not surprised with your good experience with the computer balance. It
appears that the Yokohamas, which we love, are more forgiving than other
brands.
I think this would be a good time for me to share my experience with this
alignment facility.
Shortly after I purchased my DeLorean I noticed some disturbing tire wear
on my factory installed NCT's associated with wheel shimmy at 55 mph and
over. At less than 7000 miles I had the tires replaced by NTW, now NTB.
Within the next 3000 miles the same ware patterns started to develop.
During this period of time I was contracted to do consulting work with one
of the local DeLorean dealerships. While working in their shop and sharing
information with their factory trained mechanic he said the following when
I mentioned my tire problems. "Yeah; I know what you mean. Most of the cars
coming from the factory are out of alignment. We now send the cars directly
to an alignment shop when they come off the truck."
The alignment shop is still in business with the same owner and still does
all of our DeLorean alignment work.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: Dick Ryan <raddad@cmn.net>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Spin Balancing
> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 2:35 PM
>
> Perhaps I'm jealous of what must be available elsewhere, but the spin
> balancing recommendation must be treated as one of those "nice to have"
> --as opposed to necessary -- things.
>
> I recently called every tire shop, alignment shop, etc. in Denver, Fort
> Collins and Boulder. NONE of them did on the car balancing and they said
> that they knew of no one in the area who did this anymore. I asked why
and
> they all said "because it didn't do a better job and it was dangerous".
> Yes, a couple of them were high performance/race car places.
>
> I went with a local place that does computer controlled balancing (off
the
> car) and alignment. I just completed 4000 miles in two weeks and never
has
> the car steered, cornered or just plain ridden smoother.
>
> Oh, I found a place in Denver than does industrial vibration dampening
and
> they said they could do on the car balancing, but wondered why I wanted
> such. They also said they charge by the hour and have a minimum!!
>
> Dick Ryan
> VIN 16867
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Owning a D
Date: 31-Aug-99 15:20:12 -0700
I bought my D when I was 19 (I'm 22 now), and I didn't have any problem
getting insurance - or paying all my bills for that matter. I live in
Seattle, WA and I just went through my State Farm agent. I probably paid
more for my insurance than others - I seem to recall I was paying ~ $260 a
month (Or something close to that!). I think at the time I had a very minor
accident on my record. All is better now, and I pay around $100 a month.
Dan B
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Subject: [DML] Owning a D
>Well, I kinda erased Erik Geerdinks email ,but meant to ask everyone. IS
THE
>AUTO INSURANCE BAD ON A D?!?! I actually called gto try and get an estimate
>from my company while living in Auburn, WA and the lady actually laughed at
>me and said if I got it to leave it in the garage becuase they would not
>insure me on such a car/....
>Erik how do you do it, and if there are any other 19 yeara olds out there
>that own one, how do you guys do it? And, is it possible for a kid that has
>to pay ALL his bills to own one?
>
>Wanting one VERY soon in life...
>Dave Loffler
>Providence, RI
>VIN- WAITING
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...and Morgan.
Cheers,
Martin
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Subject: [DML] Texas is hot, A/C is not
Date: 31-Aug-99 17:29:13 -0500
The good news is that "Bar's Leaks" seems to have made my water pump stop
leaking. At least it's down to a barely detectable drip instead of a steady
stream. I've bought myself some time at the very least.
But now I've got a new problem: no A/C. Not good in the Texas heat! (and
with such tiny windows)
The compressor clutch is not kicking in. I checked the voltage to the wire
on top of the compressor (I assume that's for the clutch) and got no
voltage. I was tempted to hook 12V to the clutch to see if it would engage,
but the resistance through it is 4 ohms, which seems low.
I know the mode switch is working, since selecting A/C turns on the cooling
fans, just not the compressor.
I'm going to try bypassing the pressure switch, just as soon as I find it,
but I have a hard time believing that enough freon escaped to take me from
arctic blast to no-go over lunch. Any other troubleshooting suggestions?
Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695
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<P><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">The good news is that "Bar's Leaks" seems to have made my water pump stop leaking. At least it's down to a barely detectable drip instead of a steady stream. I've b
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<P><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">The compressor clutch is not kicking in. I checked the voltage to the wire on top of the compressor (I assume that's for the clutch) and got no voltage. I was tempted to hook
<P><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">I know the mode switch is working, since selecting A/C turns on the cooling fans, just not the compressor.</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">I'm going to try bypassing the pressure switch, just as soon as I find it, but I have a hard time believing that enough freon escaped to take me from arctic blast to no-go over lunch.&nb
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Subject: [DML] Insurance prices,
Date: 31-Aug-99 18:31:19 -0400
What do most DeLorean owners pay for insurance every month?
Are we talking astronomical here, or somewhere in the
$100 range?
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On mine, the ignition lock itself gets stuck pushed in about 1/8th of an
inch (even though the key is removed) - if push it with my pinky it pops
out and the noise stops.
Don't know if it's applicable to you, but something to look at.
-Eric
On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 birdstrike@hotmail.com wrote:
> The "key in the ignition w/ door open" buzzer stays on all the time,
> just a little bit, barely audible. This continues when the car is shut
> down and the key removed causing the battery to lose charge overnight.
> Is it a bad relay?? which one?? Please help I need to fix it up to
> sell and don't want to pass on any problems.
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Premium Gasoline
Date: 31-Aug-99 19:04:54 -0400
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On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Ann & Ed Thompson wrote:
> I guess I wasn't thinking about the folks that live in the clouds on
> purpose where real gasoline isn't readily available. If Erik does
> live in or near the high mountains of Colorado he can go to a good
> speed shop and get an octane booster.
It's actually okay. In the high altitude of Colorado (Utah, Nevada,
Wyoming, etc.) naturally aspirated engines require lower octane rating.
The conventional wisdom is that high altitude adds 2 points to the octane
rating, which is why you see 85/87/91 grades rather than 87/89/93 like you
do in the rest of the country.
Octane booster is almost totally worthless. About the only thing it does
is foul your spark plugs. If it worked as well as they claim racers would
just use that instead of paying $4/gallon for real race gas.
The only reason octane booster people don't get sued more often for false
advertising is that they say "boosts up to seven points" or whatever. In
fact, when mixed with premium gas, the effect is at most 1 point of octane
incrase. It works great when you mix it with 85 octane gas, though - but
then why bother? :}
> That's not a problem. Actually that would be even a better test for
> troubleshooting the pinging if it is pre-ignition. He could boost the
Unless the timing is grossly advanced (which would be easier to check and
return more definitive results with a timing light) there is no set of
circumstances that I can think of that would cause detonation at light or
idle load on a stock DeLorean. A little detonation is normal going up a
steep hill or at full acceleration in many engines (of that vintage -
modern engines should almost never detonate), but not under cruising
conditions. An exhaust leak, on the other hand, will be audible under a
wide range of circumstances.
> knock detection device (except for the driver's ear). The DeLorean is
> supposed to run fine on regular grade fuel but I have always used
> premium grades in mine.
That's reasonable enough. The higher grade fuels typically have better
additives and are more 'pure' than low grade gas. But the DeLorean has a
very low compression engine which should run fine on just about any fuel
grade. As long as you don't have detonation, additional octane, per se,
is wasted.
> It occurred to me that if Erik does have a pre-ignition problem it
> could be that the engine was tuned for one altitude and was later
> moved to a significantly different altitude without properly tuning
> the engine for the new altitude.
I don't think this would make a lot of difference. The difference in
octane rating and the difference in air pressure typically cancel each
other out (on a naturally aspirated engine).
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Subject: [DML] Re: Antennas
Date: 31-Aug-99 19:43:53 -0400
I have the windshield antenna in my DeLorean. Compared to the reception of
my '87 Toyota Truck (non telescoping antenna) and my '94 Acura Integra
(motorized antenna), the DeLorean windshield gets better reception. I am
also located a long distance from the "local" radio stations. Far enough
that the other two cars can barely receive a signal. The DeLorean can
receive without any problems.
Also, I recently had a rock bounce up and chip the windshield not too long
ago. In attempting a repair, a crack appeared - not too bad yet. If the
crack propagates and a windshield replacement is necessary, I would prefer
the windshield antenna over any others offered. Unfortunately, the antenna
windshield seems to no longer be an option. Maybe someone should
investigate (PJG or DMCH) if "modern" windshield antennas have improved
enough to compete with the other options and offer these windshields in
their part inventories.
I know that anyone can purchase a rear window defogger (you know, the lines
in the rear window) and have it installed on a blank window (my father had
this done to his car), so I do not understand why someone cannot offer an
antenna that installs similar to the defogger.
Sean Howley
VIN#2345
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Subject: [DML] Re: Insurance prices,
Date: 31-Aug-99 17:48:23 -0600
Insurance Stats:
1981 5-speed.
male (bad as far as insurance companies are concerned)
24 yr old driver (a baby as far as insurance companies are concerned)
2nd car (other listed - 92 Subaru SVX)
Only person listed on policy
no mileage limits
$318/6 month period ($53 per month)
insured with Allstate
Hope this helps!
BTW I am in Denver, CO which typically has horrible insurance rates.
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Subject: [DML] Insurance prices,
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Are we talking astronomical here, or somewhere in the
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<DIV>1981 5-speed.</DIV>
<DIV>male (bad as far as insurance companies are concerned)</DIV>
<DIV>24 yr old driver (a baby as far as insurance companies are concerned)</DIV>
<DIV>2nd car (other listed - 92 Subaru SVX)</DIV>
<DIV>Only person listed on policy</DIV>
<DIV>no mileage limits</DIV>
<DIV>$318/6 month period ($53 per month)</DIV>
<DIV>insured with Allstate</DIV>
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<DIV>Hope this helps!</DIV>
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...and Morgan.
Cheers,
Martin
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Does Aston Martin still count???? James Bond really slipped up he should
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Subject: [DML] Fw: [DMC2] Preliminary Announcement
Date: 31-Aug-99 19:57:03 -0400
Could this be authentic?? Or a cruel hoax? Will the real John DeLorean
please stand up?
-----Original Message-----
From: John Z. Delorean <johnz@delorean.com>
To: newdelorean@onelist.com <newdelorean@onelist.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 7:39 PM
Subject: [DMC2] Preliminary Announcement
>From: "John Z. Delorean" <johnz@delorean.com>
>
>Friends -
>
>In my years since the original DeLorean went out of production, I've
>yearned to create another car, free of the limitations and compromises
>imposed by the likes of Lotus, foreign governments and suppliers.
>
>That day is growing closer, closer than ever before.
>
>Our Website, http://www.delorean.com has moved to a new server, and details
>will
>be online soon on how YOU can be personally involved in the development of
>the next DeLorean Sports Car.
>
>Exciting times ahead - be sure and tell your friends...
>
>
>Regards,
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Owning a D
Date: 31-Aug-99 20:11:31 -0400
Look into Hagerty Classic Car insurance. I pay about $300 a year. There
are some rules that you need to agree to though, so no every day driver.
The good part is that there is plenty of money left over to spend on other
items for the car!
Sean Howley
VIN#2345
<I pay around $100 a month.>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Door clips roof when opening
Date: 31-Aug-99 20:17:28 -0400
Jim,
Your T panel is out of alignment. There are thick foam spacers located
between the T roof & stainless panel. Over time the foam shrinks and causes
the stainless panel to drop down causing the door edge to contact the T
panel.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> Subject: [DML] Door clips roof when opening
> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 4:04 PM
>
> I just got my Delorean and I'm curious is there any way I can adjust the
> door. When I open it ketches on the front corner. Not bad but its
> starting to leave a marks on the door and I don't want it to get any
> worst..
>
> James Sleeth
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Subject: [DML] Re: Texas is hot, A/C is not
Date: 31-Aug-99 20:37:57 -0400
Gus,
There is a section of freon line that rubs against the fiberglass under
body that will eventually cut a hole into the line. If this has happened it
would explain a sudden loss of freon. You will need to either bypass the
low pressure cut off switch or pressure test the freon line to determine if
a refrigerant loss is the cause of your problem.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Antenna question
Date: 31-Aug-99 20:39:46 -0400
#006974,
We have a retracting (manual) front fender antenna, our car is an Nov. 81'
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Subject: [DML] Re: Clearcoat?
Date: 31-Aug-99 20:43:35 -0400
Not such a good idea.
Stainless steel has properties that resist coatings from adhering to its
surface. In order for the clear coat to properly adhere to the stainless it
must be thoroughly cleaned, and conditioned with some very nasty (dangers
products that contain acids and bromides).
This is an extremely labor intensive and a dangerous process that must be
done by a qualified auto paint shop; very expensive.
Be aware that the conditioner will slightly dull the finish.
To learn more about your stainless steel panels go to
http://www.geocities.com/~dmcjoe/stainless.html
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: mishka1@interlog.com
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Clearcoat?
> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 2:17 PM
>
> Does anyone know of anyone else applying clearcoat to their D? I think
> it wouldn't be such bad idea therefore reducing scratches and it would
> still have the nice stainless look to it.
>
> Mike Kadonoff
> 82' 244 GLT (at least it has the same fuel system as a D)
>
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Subject: [DML] VIN #
Date: 31-Aug-99 20:43:08 -0400
Okay, There were supposedly 8,800 Deloreans made right?
Well mine says (on the drivers door sill) that it was made in November of
1981, but my VIN# is SCEDT26T6BD006974, wouldn't this mean that it was the
6,974th car built ? but if it is then why is the number so high, ? any
insight would be very helpful
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Subject: [DML] Re: Spin Balancing
Date: 31-Aug-99 20:50:47 -0400
Dick,
I know what you mean, we are lucky here in Atlanta to have a shop that
I routinely performs spin balances at rates just slightly more than Pep
Boys.
I am not surprised with your good experience with the computer balance.
It appears that the Yokohamas, which we love, are more forgiving than other
brands.
I think this would be a good time for me to share my experience with this
alignment facility.
Shortly after I purchased my DeLorean I noticed some disturbing tire wear
on my factory installed NCT's associated with wheel shimmy at 55 mph and
over. At less than 7000 miles I had the tires replaced by NTW, now NTB.
Within the next 3000 miles the same ware patterns started to develop.
During this period of time I was contracted to do consulting work with
one of the local DeLorean dealerships. While working in their shop and
sharing information with their factory trained mechanic he said the
following
when I mentioned my tire problems. "Yeah; I know what you mean. Most of the
cars coming from the factory are out of alignment. We now send the cars
directly to an alignment shop when they come off the truck."
The alignment shop is still in business with the same owner and still
does all of our DeLorean alignment work.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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Subject: [DML] delorean email
Date: 31-Aug-99 20:52:38 -0400
greetings...
i recieved an email from "jzd" today.. it was sent out to all who signed up
for the dmc2 mailinglist..
it read that "exciting times are near", or something to that effect... from
reading the message, it looks as if the new car may be close at hand.. join
the list, and see!!
Mike Cutting
104.5 CJTT FM
#11434
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Subject: [DML] Spare Tire
Date: 31-Aug-99 18:06:56 -0700
We are missing a spare tire to our Delorean. Where might I find a
replacement or is there a interchangeable spare from a different model
and make vehicle which is identical in size and wheel stud pattern.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Insurance prices,
Date: 31-Aug-99 19:57:19 -0600
There are insurance companies that sell collector insurance. I just paid $205 a year for full
coverage, collision/comprehensive, no deductible. Liability was like $36 more for 100/300.
There are restrictions. No work mileage and car must be garaged in a secure area. There are
probably mileage restrictions, depending on the company. You can look in Hemmings where there
are several advertised.
Vin 3000
Dick Ross
RJRavalli@aol.com wrote:
> What do most DeLorean owners pay for insurance every month?
> Are we talking astronomical here, or somewhere in the
> $100 range?
>
> Thanks
>
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Subject: [DML] VIN #'s Listing
Date: 31-Aug-99 21:17:13 -0500
Hello folks,
I was wondering is there a database of listed users and cities? In the
future I hope to buy a Delorean and want to see if anyone near me in Corpus
Christi Texas owns one. Many thanks, Bill
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Subject: [DML] Re: electrical problem
Date: 31-Aug-99 22:53:16 -0700
Thanks for the advise Erick... I wish that was the problem. My battery is
discharging from one of the hot battery lines. I've narrowed it down to
something forward of the firewall, but the source still has me miffed.
Unplugging the door buzzer stopped the noise but not the bat. draw. Do I
have two separate problems?? I thought it might be that one of the door
locks is trying to constantly lock/ unlock. Could this be??? Advice from
anyone on this subject would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
>From: E Grauff <datamonk@svn.net>
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>Subject: [DML] Re: electrical problem
>Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:45:54 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On mine, the ignition lock itself gets stuck pushed in about 1/8th of an
>inch (even though the key is removed) - if push it with my pinky it pops
>out and the noise stops.
>Don't know if it's applicable to you, but something to look at.
>-Eric
>
>On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 birdstrike@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > The "key in the ignition w/ door open" buzzer stays on all the time,
> > just a little bit, barely audible. This continues when the car is shut
> > down and the key removed causing the battery to lose charge overnight.
> > Is it a bad relay?? which one?? Please help I need to fix it up to
> > sell and don't want to pass on any problems.
> >
> >
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Subject: [DML] Limited Edition update
Date: 31-Aug-99 23:40:08 -0700
To all:
The September up date for the DMC limited edition
is posted on the DMC Bulletin Board
http://www.totalimmersion.com/dmcboard/index.html
Thanks
Lee
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