DeLorean Mailing List - August 1999 - Week #2

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From: LANCEH@SMTP (Lance R Haslewood) {lanceh@zeta.org.au}                                                                                                                                                                                      
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Subject: [DML] HAND BRAKE LIGHT                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
Date: 8-Aug-99 8:36:49 +1000                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Would anyone have an answer to the hand brake light which flashes                                                                                                                                                                               
intermittently when the brake lever is off.  I have checked the switch (and                                                                                                                                                                     
archives) and cannot resolve the problem.  I suspect it might be a problem                                                                                                                                                                      
not associated with the switch.  An immediate fix is to unplug the wire                                                                                                                                                                         
from the switch.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Lance Haslewood                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
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Subject: [DML] JZD/DMC and the Mazda connection                                                                                                                                                                                                 
Date: 7-Aug-99 16:30:33 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
The only connection I kow that JZD/DMC has with Mazda was C.R. Brown.                                                                                                                                                                           
C.R. was the president of the North American arm of DMC, and he came to                                                                                                                                                                         
DELOREAN MOTOR COMPANYafter working as the president of Mazda USA. C.R.                                                                                                                                                                         
was responsible for setting up Mazda in the US.                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Also, there was some early thought about putting the Wankel motor into                                                                                                                                                                          
the DeLorean. As best as I can recollect, the gas crisis of the                                                                                                                                                                                 
mid-seventies (when the DeLorean was in embroynic form) put the end to                                                                                                                                                                          
that.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
James                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
--- JimmuC@aol.com wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
> I know this is a stupid question but was JZD ever                                                                                                                                                                                             
> connected with the Mazda                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
> Rx-7 in any way. I remember he had something to do                                                                                                                                                                                            
> with a japanese car but I                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
> can't remember which one! Thanks for any answers you                                                                                                                                                                                          
> can provide for my                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
> stupid question.                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
>                                         -Jimmy                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: HAND BRAKE LIGHT                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Date: 7-Aug-99 21:26:58 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
On Sun, 8 Aug 1999, Lance R Haslewood wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                                    
> Would anyone have an answer to the hand brake light which flashes                                                                                                                                                                             
> intermittently when the brake lever is off.  I have checked the switch (and                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Remember that the light on the dash not only indicates that the parking                                                                                                                                                                         
brake is active, but also that the brake fluid level is low.  I'd suggest                                                                                                                                                                       
checking your brake fluid and/or the float in the top of the resevoir.                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> archives) and cannot resolve the problem.  I suspect it might be a problem                                                                                                                                                                    
> not associated with the switch.  An immediate fix is to unplug the wire                                                                                                                                                                       
> from the switch.                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I can't say what that means as i don't have a wiring diagram available at                                                                                                                                                                       
moment.  The previous suggestions may help though...                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
			-Steve <dmc@fdt.net>                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
VIN 17117                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
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From: MUSICLAN@SMTP (jerry smith) {musicland@i-55.com}                                                                                                                                                                                          
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Subject: [DML] Re: Mildew in the South                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Date: 7-Aug-99 20:27:05 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Scott,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
The best thing to prevent mildew is too keep the inside of the car aired out                                                                                                                                                                    
and to keep a lot of moisture from being trapped in it. If you have cloth                                                                                                                                                                       
seats you can check the cleaning aisle of your local grocery store and they                                                                                                                                                                     
should have something for it. If you have leather seats you can mix bleach                                                                                                                                                                      
and water(make sure you mix them half and half) and that should take the                                                                                                                                                                        
mildew off.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Hope i helped you out.                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Jerry Smith                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
VIN#    Not in this century.                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
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From: Scott Mueller <scottmueller@zebra.net>                                                                                                                                                                                                    
To: DMCNEWS <DMCNEWS@egroups.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                               
Date: Saturday, August 07, 1999 7:48 PM                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Subject: [DML] Mildew in the South                                                                                                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
>I decided today to take my DeLorean out for a spin.                                                                                                                                                                                            
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>I am ashamed to say that it has sat patiently in the garage for the last                                                                                                                                                                       
>three months without any attention from me.                                                                                                                                                                                                    
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>There is now a very fine dusting of "Mildew" on the seats and steering                                                                                                                                                                         
>wheel.  It seems to wipe away fairly easily.                                                                                                                                                                                                   
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>It is very humid in Mobile, ALabama.  Does anyone have any suggestions as                                                                                                                                                                      
to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
>how I can prevent the mildew from forming in my car.                                                                                                                                                                                           
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>All input is welcome.                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>Scott Mueller                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
>ScottMueller@zebra.net                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
>1981/002981  DOA5031/DMCNEWS                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
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Subject: [DML] Re: HAND BRAKE LIGHT                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Date: 7-Aug-99 22:11:53 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Unplug the switch, if the lamp goes out completely the problem is in the                                                                                                                                                                        
hand brake switch.                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>                                                                                                                                                                                                  
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> From: Lance R Haslewood <lanceh@zeta.org.au>                                                                                                                                                                                                  
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
> Subject: [DML] HAND BRAKE LIGHT                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Date: Saturday, August 07, 1999 6:36 PM                                                                                                                                                                                                       
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Would anyone have an answer to the hand brake light which flashes                                                                                                                                                                             
> intermittently when the brake lever is off.  I have checked the switch                                                                                                                                                                        
(and                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
> archives) and cannot resolve the problem.  I suspect it might be a                                                                                                                                                                            
problem                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
> not associated with the switch.  An immediate fix is to unplug the wire                                                                                                                                                                       
> from the switch.                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Lance Haslewood                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Down Under                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
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Subject: [DML] Re: HAND BRAKE LIGHT                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Date: 7-Aug-99 22:17:02 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Check your brake fluid level...if it is low the brake light will come on.                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Keep the dream alive and be safe,                                                                                                                                                                                                               
Robert Starling                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
Vin#5252                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Subject: [DML] HAND BRAKE LIGHT                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> Would anyone have an answer to the hand brake light which flashes                                                                                                                                                                             
> intermittently when the brake lever is off.  I have checked the switch                                                                                                                                                                        
(and                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
> archives) and cannot resolve the problem.  I suspect it might be a problem                                                                                                                                                                    
> not associated with the switch.  An immediate fix is to unplug the wire                                                                                                                                                                       
> from the switch.                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Lance Haslewood                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Down Under                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: Mildew in the South                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Date: 7-Aug-99 22:18:08 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Go to your local hardware store or home center and purchase a container of                                                                                                                                                                      
Damp-Rid. I may be slightly off with the brand name but it is a moisture                                                                                                                                                                        
absorbing product designed for damp environments. Works great !                                                                                                                                                                                 
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>                                                                                                                                                                                                  
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> From: Scott Mueller <scottmueller@zebra.net>                                                                                                                                                                                                  
> To: DMCNEWS <DMCNEWS@EGROUPS.COM>                                                                                                                                                                                                             
> Subject: [DML] Mildew in the South                                                                                                                                                                                                            
> Date: Saturday, August 07, 1999 2:20 PM                                                                                                                                                                                                       
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> I decided today to take my DeLorean out for a spin.                                                                                                                                                                                           
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> I am ashamed to say that it has sat patiently in the garage for the last                                                                                                                                                                      
> three months without any attention from me.                                                                                                                                                                                                   
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> There is now a very fine dusting of "Mildew" on the seats and steering                                                                                                                                                                        
> wheel.  It seems to wipe away fairly easily.                                                                                                                                                                                                  
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> It is very humid in Mobile, ALabama.  Does anyone have any suggestions as                                                                                                                                                                     
to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
> how I can prevent the mildew from forming in my car.                                                                                                                                                                                          
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> All input is welcome.                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Scott Mueller                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
> ScottMueller@zebra.net                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
> 1981/002981  DOA5031/DMCNEWS                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
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Date: 7-Aug-99 23:01:40 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Sorry to be so brief befor the event was going to take place in oct, but we moved it to better accomidate others.The new date is set for Sept.25-26 at the Lake Lanier Rowing/Kayak venue site of the 1996 Olympic rowing and kayaking events. T
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Subject: [DML] Re: Mildew in the South                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Date: 7-Aug-99 20:15:27 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Scott,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
DRIVE IT!!!!!!  In addition to the pleasure of the experience, the AC will                                                                                                                                                                      
dehumidify the interior and prevent the problem.  Talk about a win-win                                                                                                                                                                          
situation!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Bill                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
VIN 4730                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
TX LIC:  81 DMC                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
>I decided today to take my DeLorean out for a spin.                                                                                                                                                                                            
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>I am ashamed to say that it has sat patiently in the garage for the last                                                                                                                                                                       
>three months without any attention from me.                                                                                                                                                                                                    
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>There is now a very fine dusting of "Mildew" on the seats and steering                                                                                                                                                                         
>wheel.  It seems to wipe away fairly easily.                                                                                                                                                                                                   
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>It is very humid in Mobile, ALabama.  Does anyone have any suggestions as                                                                                                                                                                      
>to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
>how I can prevent the mildew from forming in my car.                                                                                                                                                                                           
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>All input is welcome.                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>Scott Mueller                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: JZD's autobiography                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Date: 8-Aug-99 0:31:10 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Sandro,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
     I got a copy of that book for my birthday about a month ago.  Not sure                                                                                                                                                                     
on that price, but the reading is very interesting.  I couldn't put the book                                                                                                                                                                    
down.  Go ahead and get a copy, it's worth it.                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: TESTERSD@SMTP (Scott Tester) {testersd@helicon.net}                                                                                                                                                                                       
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Subject: [DML] Mildew Prevention!                                                                                                                                                                                                               
Date: 8-Aug-99 1:53:12 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
At 01:20 PM 8/7/99 -0500, you wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                                            
>I decided today to take my DeLorean out for a spin.                                                                                                                                                                                            
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>I am ashamed to say that it has sat patiently in the garage for the last                                                                                                                                                                       
>three months without any attention from me.                                                                                                                                                                                                    
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>There is now a very fine dusting of "Mildew" on the seats and steering                                                                                                                                                                         
>wheel.  It seems to wipe away fairly easily.                                                                                                                                                                                                   
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>It is very humid in Mobile, ALabama.  Does anyone have any suggestions as to                                                                                                                                                                   
>how I can prevent the mildew from forming in my car.                                                                                                                                                                                           
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>All input is welcome.                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>Scott Mueller                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
>ScottMueller@zebra.net                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
>1981/002981  DOA5031/DMCNEWS                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Go to the store and purchase several small pans, ex: kitty litter pans..                                                                                                                                                                        
Fill these pans with charcoal and sit them inside the car in moisture prone                                                                                                                                                                     
areas.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
The moisture is absorbed into the charcoal, and when the charcoal becomes                                                                                                                                                                       
too moist simply                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
heat it in an oven to dry it. Very cheap, works perfectly...                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Scott Tester      testersd@helicon.net                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: Commercial Posting Policy                                                                                                                                                                                                    
Date: 8-Aug-99 2:33:30 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Does anyone have a spare Flux Capacitor for sale?  I really need one.                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
More seriously, if someone could make a full size model, I can have it replicated.  Is anyone                                                                                                                                                   
intrested?   I think it would be a kick for car shows and parades!                                                                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Bob VIN# 10961 - The no DMC D                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
raddad@cmn.net wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> Having been a DeLorean owner for 17 years, let me say that Lee's efforts                                                                                                                                                                      
> have added to the marque in ways that only an devoted supporter of the                                                                                                                                                                        
> marque can.  I purchased the keys and the kit.  It was obvious that these                                                                                                                                                                     
> were labors of love.                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> No, Lee, I persoanlly think you have never abused the list and I hope that                                                                                                                                                                    
> if you get that company sold and go into retirement you can come up with a                                                                                                                                                                    
> bunch of other goodies for us.                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: Locked out of trunk !                                                                                                                                                                                                        
Date: 7-Aug-99 23:57:25 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Hello Everyone,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
Thank you to all who responded to my problem with being locked out of my trunk!                                                                                                                                                                 
Thanks for all the suggestions.  I tried the easy ones first, but DMC JOE  had it nailed.                                                                                                                                                       
Once on a lift the drivers tire didn't even have to be removed, above the brake cylinder                                                                                                                                                        
by  pushing the rubber plug up access to the trunk was made and with a long piece of wire I                                                                                                                                                     
was able to see the lock mechanism .  Grabbed it and what la! The trunk was                                                                                                                                                                     
opened.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
HEARS A GREAT TIP FOR ALL :  TO AVOID THIS PROBLEM ,RUN A WIRE                                                                                                                                                                                  
FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE LOCK MECHANISM TO THE RUBBER PLUG AT THE BOTTOM OF THE TRUNK.  THIS WAY                                                                                                                                                  
SHOULD YOUR  TRUNK CABLE EVER COME  LOSE , ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS POP THE PLUG , AND GRAB THE                                                                                                                                                    
WIRE  TO RELEASE THE TRUNK.  IT MIGHT SEEM A LITTLE EXCESSIVE BUT IT BEATS RUNNING OUT OF GAS                                                                                                                                                   
GETTING THE DELOREAN TOWED TO A SERVICE STATION THEN SPENDING AN HOUR TRYING TO FISH FOR  THE                                                                                                                                                   
TRUNK RELEASE!.!.!.                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
 THANKS AGAIN                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
CHESTER                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
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Hello Everyone,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
<BR>Thank you to all who responded to my problem with being locked out                                                                                                                                                                          
of my trunk!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
<BR>Thanks for all the suggestions.&nbsp; I tried the easy ones first,                                                                                                                                                                          
but DMC JOE&nbsp; had it nailed.                                                                                                                                                                                                                
<BR>Once on a lift the drivers tire didn't even have to be removed, above                                                                                                                                                                       
the brake cylinder                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
<BR>by&nbsp; pushing the rubber plug up access to the trunk was made and                                                                                                                                                                        
with a long piece of wire I was able to see the lock mechanism .&nbsp;                                                                                                                                                                          
Grabbed it and what la! The trunk was                                                                                                                                                                                                           
<BR>opened.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
<BR>HEARS A GREAT TIP FOR ALL :&nbsp; TO AVOID THIS PROBLEM ,RUN A WIRE                                                                                                                                                                         
<BR>FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE LOCK MECHANISM TO THE RUBBER PLUG AT THE BOTTOM                                                                                                                                                                      
OF THE TRUNK.&nbsp; THIS WAY SHOULD YOUR&nbsp; TRUNK CABLE EVER COME&nbsp;                                                                                                                                                                      
LOSE , ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS POP THE PLUG , AND GRAB THE WIRE&nbsp; TO                                                                                                                                                                          
RELEASE THE TRUNK.<U>&nbsp; <B>IT MIGHT SEEM A LITTLE EXCESSIVE BUT IT                                                                                                                                                                          
BEATS RUNNING OUT OF GAS GETTING THE DELOREAN TOWED TO A SERVICE STATION                                                                                                                                                                        
THEN SPENDING AN HOUR TRYING TO FISH FOR&nbsp; THE TRUNK RELEASE!.!.!.</B></U>                                                                                                                                                                  
<BR><B><U>&nbsp;THANKS AGAIN</U></B><B></B>                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: Was the DeLorean really a GM concept?                                                                                                                                                                                        
Date: 8-Aug-99 7:51:06 +0000                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
If you really what to get confused, visit the Harod's autombile museum                                                                                                                                                                          
in Reno.  They have a PPG pace car from the 80's.  The door PERFECTLY                                                                                                                                                                           
match those of the DeLorean!  Most of the cabin body also matches the                                                                                                                                                                           
DeLorean.  Was this a DeLorean made into the race car.  It sure look                                                                                                                                                                            
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Subject: [DML] Re: Mildew in the South                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Date: 8-Aug-99 7:55:02 +0000                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
This is a very bad thing. Once mold spore have grown and rooted they are                                                                                                                                                                        
there permanently.  You must treat the seats with a disinfectant or they                                                                                                                                                                        
will rot.  A 20 % bleach solution, left on for about 5 minutes and then                                                                                                                                                                         
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Subject: [DML] Re: HAND BRAKE LIGHT                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Date: 8-Aug-99 7:57:33 +0000                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
My experience has been that the brake cables loose their lubrication                                                                                                                                                                            
over time.  Remove these from the rear brakes and the hrake handle and                                                                                                                                                                          
relub them. Then when the brake handle is down the light will go off.                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I also found a broken return spring on one.  This could also be your                                                                                                                                                                            
problem.  The spring is not visible without disassembly.                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] vent problem...                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Date: 8-Aug-99 13:17:54 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
For some reason, I still can't get sufficient heat or cold air to blow on my feet when the climate control knob is in the "bi-level", or the "foot" position. I reach down and feel a little air coming out, but I feel it just isn't what it sh
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>For some reason, I still can't get sufficient                                                                                                                                                                   
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little air coming out, but I feel it just isn't what it should be. I did tape up                                                                                                                                                                
the foam piece that DMC Joe recommends, but that just stopped the outside air                                                                                                                                                                   
from coming in. I got the controller rebuilt from PJ Grady last year, so nothing                                                                                                                                                                
is leaking. I'm at a loss here. Any suggestions?                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: Was the DeLorean really a GM concept?                                                                                                                                                                                        
Date: 8-Aug-99 13:19:05 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Anyone have a picture of this car? I'd really like to see it...                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: Robert Brandys <oehcs@flash.net>                                                                                                                                                                                                          
To: dmcnews@egroups.com <dmcnews@egroups.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                   
Date: Sunday, August 08, 1999 10:38 AM                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Subject: [DML] Re: Was the DeLorean really a GM concept?                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
>If you really what to get confused, visit the Harod's autombile museum                                                                                                                                                                         
>in Reno.  They have a PPG pace car from the 80's.  The door PERFECTLY                                                                                                                                                                          
>match those of the DeLorean!  Most of the cabin body also matches the                                                                                                                                                                          
>DeLorean.  Was this a DeLorean made into the race car.  It sure look                                                                                                                                                                           
>like it to me!!!                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>Dr. Bob                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
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Subject: [DML] Re: Back in the Saddle Again...                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Date: 8-Aug-99 22:09:52 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Hi all!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
My name is Todd Z. from Long Island, New York.                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
A few short years ago I had a 1981 Delorean (a/t, gray interior, mint inside                                                                                                                                                                    
and out- no droopy doors or seats that looked like a pack of wolves ran                                                                                                                                                                         
through). This car had less than 4,000 miles and was just plain sweet. After                                                                                                                                                                    
having my Delorean for almost 2 years...I had to sell it reluctantly, due to                                                                                                                                                                    
marriage....that is I was reluctant to sell the car, not marry!                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Now it is about 3 years later and I've got the fever. I am eager to get back                                                                                                                                                                    
into a Delorean...any year...automatic...fully updated and mechanically                                                                                                                                                                         
sound....interior gray preferred...ultra clean- not necessarily show quality,                                                                                                                                                                   
but something for the fussy nit-picker.                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I don't live far from Rob Grady (20 minutes or so)...he is looking for one                                                                                                                                                                      
for me at the moment, but I would like to see as much of what is available as                                                                                                                                                                   
there is...soooooo, anyone out there selling or know where one is for sale? I                                                                                                                                                                   
have been following the groups e-mails for a little while and I realize that                                                                                                                                                                    
there is a sort of hysteria about "commercial" stuff. I hope this does not                                                                                                                                                                      
violate any rules, I just want some fellow DMC owners and those who want to                                                                                                                                                                     
be owners, to point me in the right direction.                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I look forward to participating in this group in the future, it looks like it                                                                                                                                                                   
is a lot of fun as well as helpful. Thanks everyone!                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Original 1981 Owners Manual With Pouch                                                                                                                                                                                           
Date: 8-Aug-99 20:58:09 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I purchased a Delorean 2 months ago but it did not come with an owners                                                                                                                                                                          
manual.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
If any one has an original manual with pouch or knows someone that does                                                                                                                                                                         
& is willing to part with it contact me directly!                                                                                                                                                                                               
I am trying to put together some memorabilia to keep with my car.                                                                                                                                                                               
I know I can get copies but that is not what I want.                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
					Thank You,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
					Gary Valenziano                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
					vin#5480                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
p.s. I am also looking for the former owner of my car to get some                                                                                                                                                                               
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Subject: [DML] Re: vent problem...                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Date: 9-Aug-99 0:09:44 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
   Gerald Deutsch  wrote......                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
  For some reason, I still can't get sufficient heat or cold air to blow on my feet when the climate control knob is in the "bi-level", or the "foot" position. I reach down and feel a little air coming out, but I feel it just isn't what it 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
  I know that this may sound lame, but check to make sure that the carpet is not blocking the floor air vents.                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
  Keep the dream alive and be safe,                                                                                                                                                                                                             
  Robert Starling                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
  Vin#5252                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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  <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>For some reason, I still can't get sufficient                                                                                                                                                                 
  heat or cold air to blow on my feet when the climate control knob is in the                                                                                                                                                                   
  "bi-level", or the "foot" position. I reach down and feel a little air coming                                                                                                                                                                 
  out, but I feel it just isn't what it should be. I did tape up the foam piece                                                                                                                                                                 
  that DMC Joe recommends, but that just stopped the outside air from coming in.                                                                                                                                                                
  I got the controller rebuilt from PJ Grady last year, so nothing is leaking.                                                                                                                                                                  
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  <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000 size=2>I know that this may sound lame, but check to                                                                                                                                                                 
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Subject: [DML] 1981 DeLorean Available Briefly                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Date: 9-Aug-99 8:30:17 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
My 1981 DeLorean DMC-12, VIN #1529, is available for sale for a brief time                                                                                                                                                                      
only at a very attractive price. Photos and basic info are available now at                                                                                                                                                                     
the following web site:  http://hometown.aol.com/delorean2c/MyCar.html                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
My detailed info about the car, including price, history, condition, repaired                                                                                                                                                                   
items, etc., will be available as a separate link at the same web site by 8                                                                                                                                                                     
p.m. Monday, Aug. 9.                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I am off work all of next week and then start working 10 hour days after                                                                                                                                                                        
that. If the car has not sold by the end of next week, I will be taking it                                                                                                                                                                      
off the market and storing it until I have time to play with it next spring.                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
If you are interested in having a DeLorean, please check out the web site                                                                                                                                                                       
later tonight, then email or call me for more information or to arrange a                                                                                                                                                                       
viewing of it.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Thank you.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: Vent heat problem                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Date: 9-Aug-99 8:20:40 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Sean wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
>(1) I have been having a problem for some time now and am unsure on how to =                                                                                                                                                                   
locate the problem (Joe, this was another one of the items that I meant to =                                                                                                                                                                    
have you look at and forgot).  The problem is when I am driving, heat 'dump=                                                                                                                                                                    
s' out on my feet from under the console just beside the gas pedal unless I=                                                                                                                                                                    
 have the mode switch in the "off" position in which case slightly cool air=                                                                                                                                                                    
 comes from the same location as the previously hot air.  In switching back=                                                                                                                                                                    
 and forth, this same occurrence becomes controllably repetitive.  When the=                                                                                                                                                                    
 car is not moving, the hot air by my feet no longer circulates.  I am very=                                                                                                                                                                    
 unsure where the heat might be coming from, but when I place my hand under=                                                                                                                                                                    
 the dash near the origin (while I am driving), it seems to be located very=                                                                                                                                                                    
 close to the firewall in the center console - under the dash.  Any ideas/s=                                                                                                                                                                    
uggestions.<                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
This sounds like a bad mode switch.  The airflow in the ventilation                                                                                                                                                                             
system is controlled by vacuum actuators.  The actuators are                                                                                                                                                                                    
controlled by the mode switch in the dash.  There is a portion of                                                                                                                                                                               
the switch that is sealed with a silicone grease that eventually                                                                                                                                                                                
dries out and causes erratic operation of the ventilation system.                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Mike Griese                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
Storage Software Development Manager                                                                                                                                                                                                            
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Subject: [DML] Re: Back in the Saddle Again...                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Date: 9-Aug-99 8:26:09 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Just saw your e-mail message wanting a DeLorean .  I have one for sale.                                                                                                                                                                         
Here is brief description.                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
  Vintage 7122,built November 1981.                                                                                                                                                                                                             
  Mileage 7000.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
Grey leather interior.                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
 Automatic transmission.                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
 Owners guide, shop manual 372 pages,parts manual 200 pages.                                                                                                                                                                                    
 Garage kept and covered.                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
 Purchaser will be first owner,as never registered.                                                                                                                                                                                             
Purchase price $21,000.                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Call (270) 684-6165 same # for fax.                                                                                                                                                                                                             
 e-mail shine50@juno.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: Original 1981 Owners Manual With Pouch                                                                                                                                                                                       
Date: 9-Aug-99 10:36:10 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Gary,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
Owners Handbooks are available from DMC Houston & PJ Grady.                                                                                                                                                                                     
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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> From: Gary V. <piason@home.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
> Subject: [DML] Original 1981 Owners Manual With Pouch                                                                                                                                                                                         
> Date: Sunday, August 08, 1999 11:58 PM                                                                                                                                                                                                        
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> I purchased a Delorean 2 months ago but it did not come with an owners                                                                                                                                                                        
> manual.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
> If any one has an original manual with pouch or knows someone that does                                                                                                                                                                       
> & is willing to part with it contact me directly!                                                                                                                                                                                             
> I am trying to put together some memorabilia to keep with my car.                                                                                                                                                                             
> I know I can get copies but that is not what I want.                                                                                                                                                                                          
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> 					Thank You,                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> 					Gary Valenziano                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
> 					vin#5480                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: vent problem...                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Date: 9-Aug-99 10:59:45 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Gerald,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Check to be sure that one end of vacuum hose #2 (brown stripe) is plugged                                                                                                                                                                       
into the number 2 receptacle on the vacuum plug at the rear of the mode                                                                                                                                                                         
switch and the other end is connected to the upper actuator at the lower                                                                                                                                                                        
left (driver footwell) of the main AC duct. Refer to 7/3/0 in the Parts                                                                                                                                                                         
Manual.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>                                                                                                                                                                                                  
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From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1@eclipse.net>                                                                                                                                                                                                       
To: dmcnews@egroups.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Subject: [DML] vent problem...                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Date: Sunday, August 08, 1999 1:17 PM                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
For some reason, I still can't get sufficient heat or cold air to blow on                                                                                                                                                                       
my feet when the climate control knob is in the "bi-level", or the "foot"                                                                                                                                                                       
position. I reach down and feel a little air coming out, but I feel it just                                                                                                                                                                     
isn't what it should be. I did tape up the foam piece that DMC Joe                                                                                                                                                                              
recommends, but that just stopped the outside air from coming in. I got the                                                                                                                                                                     
controller rebuilt from PJ Grady last year, so nothing is leaking. I'm at a                                                                                                                                                                     
loss here. Any suggestions? ---Dan                                                                                                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Storage Options/Solutions (was: Mildew in the South)                                                                                                                                                                             
Date: 9-Aug-99 10:11:40 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
In-reply-to: <000701BEE1019E42>13a0$b2990cd1                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Scott -                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Though definitely at the more expensive end of the spectrum caompared to                                                                                                                                                                        
the other answers you got - a Carcoon would be perfect for this. By keeping                                                                                                                                                                     
the air circulating in and around the car, it keeps it dry! Plus it looks                                                                                                                                                                       
really cool in the garage...                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
http://www.carcoon.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
James                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
At 1:20 PM -0500 8/7/99, Scott Mueller wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                                   
>I decided today to take my DeLorean out for a spin.                                                                                                                                                                                            
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>I am ashamed to say that it has sat patiently in the garage for the last                                                                                                                                                                       
>three months without any attention from me.                                                                                                                                                                                                    
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>There is now a very fine dusting of "Mildew" on the seats and steering                                                                                                                                                                         
>wheel.  It seems to wipe away fairly easily.                                                                                                                                                                                                   
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>It is very humid in Mobile, ALabama.  Does anyone have any suggestions as to                                                                                                                                                                   
>how I can prevent the mildew from forming in my car.                                                                                                                                                                                           
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>All input is welcome.                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>Scott Mueller                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
>ScottMueller@zebra.net                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
>1981/002981  DOA5031/DMCNEWS                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: Vent heat problem                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Date: 9-Aug-99 11:12:51 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Mike,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
Thanks for your suggestion but we installed a new mode switch during our                                                                                                                                                                        
visit. We have since been in touch with Mr.Howley and belive we have found                                                                                                                                                                      
the source of his problem.                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>                                                                                                                                                                                                  
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> From: magriese@us.ibm.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
> Subject: [DML] Re: Vent heat problem                                                                                                                                                                                                          
> Date: Monday, August 09, 1999 9:20 AM                                                                                                                                                                                                         
> This sounds like a bad mode switch.  The airflow in the ventilation                                                                                                                                                                           
> system is controlled by vacuum actuators.  The actuators are                                                                                                                                                                                  
> controlled by the mode switch in the dash.  There is a portion of                                                                                                                                                                             
> the switch that is sealed with a silicone grease that eventually                                                                                                                                                                              
> dries out and causes erratic operation of the ventilation system.                                                                                                                                                                             
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Mike Griese                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
> Storage Software Development Manager                                                                                                                                                                                                          
> IBM Storage Systems Division                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
> Rochester, MN  55901                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
> Internet: magriese@us.ibm.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
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Subject: [DML] Help on DMC Model                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Date: 9-Aug-99 11:18:19 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Hi, I am working on building the BTTF 2 DeLorean (AMT Ertl),                                                                                                                                                                                    
but I do not want to paint the interior BLUE, as the instructions say.                                                                                                                                                                          
 Instead, I would rather match the interior of a REAL DeLorean:                                                                                                                                                                                 
either black or gray.  Could any of you share with me what shade of                                                                                                                                                                             
paint they used for the black/gray?                                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Thanks,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Robert                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
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Subject: [DML] Re: Was the DeLorean really a GM concept?                                                                                                                                                                                        
Date: 9-Aug-99 19:40:41 +0000                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I have a picture of the PPG car somewhere.  This is no question it was a                                                                                                                                                                        
DeLorean to start with.  Does any one live in Reno?                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: RPM relay                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
Date: 9-Aug-99 19:53:08 +0000                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
My stock D have an unusual symptom recently.  It would hunt the idle                                                                                                                                                                            
speed until the car warmed up.                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
This weekend the RPM relayed died and the car had to be towed home.                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I had a spare relay and the car is just fine now.  The idle speed at                                                                                                                                                                            
start up is also steady.                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
This idle speed hunting appears to have been an early warning sign of                                                                                                                                                                           
emmint RPM relay failure.                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Just thought the list members would like to know.                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] gear shift boot                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Date: 9-Aug-99 16:52:25 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Just got my car back from the shop.  The gear shift boot now moves forward and backward when I shift into the respective gears. When the boot moves forward it leaves a gap at the point where the boot base normally covered the console.  Does
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Just got my car back from the shop.&nbsp; The                                                                                                                                                                   
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Subject: [DML] Dealer Codes and Warranty Cards                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Date: 9-Aug-99 18:13:53 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I was able to spend a day or so at the warehouse in Columbus last week and                                                                                                                                                                      
I discovered a listing that appears to show all the dealer codes, and the                                                                                                                                                                       
information that goes along with them.                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Anyone who has ordered a copy of their warranty card (and been notified                                                                                                                                                                         
that we have it) should email me with the dealer code(s) from their card,                                                                                                                                                                       
located in the upper right corner of the card.                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
James Espey                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
DeLorean Motor Company                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
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281/568-9573                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
800/USA-DMC1                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
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Subject: [DML] Re: Help of DMC Model                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Date: 9-Aug-99 19:15:58 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Hello,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
         I'm not sure what shade to paint it, but there's a reason for the                                                                                                                                                                      
blue paint..                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I bought the set of DeLorean Models (BTTF 1, 2, 3) and I decided to paint the                                                                                                                                                                   
Part 1 one as an experiment to make it black.. At first I tried grey, but                                                                                                                                                                       
since the seats etc are already grey by default that would be a little                                                                                                                                                                          
stupid. -=]                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
When I painted it black and assembled it, I couldn't see a thing cause the                                                                                                                                                                      
underside of the roof is reflective, and the inside was pitch black.. well,                                                                                                                                                                     
almost.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
If you've seen pictures of the professionally painted models, you'll see how                                                                                                                                                                    
nice the blue paint looks..                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
This is my own opinion, and I used glossy black, I think maybe if you use                                                                                                                                                                       
flat black/grey you might get a different view.                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Good luck!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Supratik Lahiri                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
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Subject: [DML] Re: Original 1981 Owners Manual With Pouch                                                                                                                                                                                       
Date: 9-Aug-99 18:17:20 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
In-reply-to: <19990809163121>.LHHZ14370                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Before the flood of email starts asking me about owners manuals and pouches                                                                                                                                                                     
- all we have are COPIES of the 1982 version of the owners manual. There                                                                                                                                                                        
are very few technical differences between the 1981 and 1982 manuals, but                                                                                                                                                                       
many design/cosmetic ones.                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
When we DO run across original manuals, they are generally used and we put                                                                                                                                                                      
them on eBay...I have an 81 and and 82 manual that we be put up there                                                                                                                                                                           
sometime this or next week.                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
James Espey                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
DeLorean Motor Company                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Houston, Texas                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
281/568-9573                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
800/USA-DMC1                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
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At 9:36 AM -0500 8/9/99, DMC Joe wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                                         
>Gary,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
>Owners Handbooks are available from DMC Houston & PJ Grady.                                                                                                                                                                                    
>DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>                                                                                                                                                                                                 
>Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                   
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
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>>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
>> I purchased a Delorean 2 months ago but it did not come with an owners                                                                                                                                                                       
>> manual.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
>> If any one has an original manual with pouch or knows someone that does                                                                                                                                                                      
>> & is willing to part with it contact me directly!                                                                                                                                                                                            
>> I am trying to put together some memorabilia to keep with my car.                                                                                                                                                                            
>> I know I can get copies but that is not what I want.                                                                                                                                                                                         
>>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
>> 					Thank You,                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
>> 					Gary Valenziano                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
>> 					vin#5480                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: The 1st Bi-Annual Southeastern DeLorean Owners "Cruise-In"                                                                                                                                                                   
Date: 9-Aug-99 19:23:48 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Excuse my ignorance, and I mean no offense, but who is Ben Davis?                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
RHYD6893 wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
<SNIP>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
> Featured events:                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
> DMC Joe of DeLorean Services                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
> Rob Grady of PJ Grady                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
> Stephen Wynne of DMC Houston                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
> Ben Davis Turbo owner                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
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Subject: [DML] POLL: DeLorean Owners Association Expo                                                                                                                                                                                           
Date: 9-Aug-99 18:32:44 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
The Delorean Owners Association Expo is being held this October 7-10, in St. Louis, MO. Tech seminars, concours, product fair, and more - are you planning on attending?                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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   o Yes                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
   o No                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
by going to the following Web form:                                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] DeLorean Owners Cruise-In                                                                                                                                                                                                        
Date: 9-Aug-99 23:09:15 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Announcing:  The "1st Bi-Annual Southeastern DeLorean Owners Cruise-In" is                                                                                                                                                                      
going to be held on Saturday, September 25 and Sunday, September 26, 1999 in                                                                                                                                                                    
Gainesville, GA.   The meeting place is the 1996 Olympics Venue for Rowing                                                                                                                                                                      
and Kayaking that was built on the shore of Lake Lanier especially for the                                                                                                                                                                      
Olympics.  Lots of space and room for 225 DeLoreans to park with their wings                                                                                                                                                                    
up.This is planned as a laid-back, non-competitive gathering of folks who                                                                                                                                                                       
just love to drive their DeLoreans and enjoy a gathering of sociable friends                                                                                                                                                                    
for a fun-filled and helpful weekend.  We will have technical presentations                                                                                                                                                                     
by DMC Joe of DeLorean Services, Rob Grady of P.J. Grady, and Stephen Wynne                                                                                                                                                                     
of DMC Houston.  Also, Ben Davis, a successful turbo owner will have a show                                                                                                                                                                     
and tell on his conversion.  You will have the opportunity to have a                                                                                                                                                                            
technical audit of your car by one of the speakers and a chance to win or by                                                                                                                                                                    
a large variety of DeLorean memorabilia.   We have gotten special rates at                                                                                                                                                                      
three good motels in the area for about $50 per night.  Saturday noon is a                                                                                                                                                                      
southern Barbecue luncheon and Dinner will be a candlelight dining                                                                                                                                                                              
experience from the best restaurants in Gainesville on the Venue dock                                                                                                                                                                           
overlooking Lake Lanier.   Sunday will feature a chance to take a parade lap                                                                                                                                                                    
on Road Atlanta, a renowned Grand Prix race course, prior to watching the                                                                                                                                                                       
Historic Sports Car Racing program from our own vantage point on turn 12.                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Go to DMCJoe's web site at www.deloreanservices.com for more information and                                                                                                                                                                    
updates on plans.                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Reserve the dates of Sept 25 and 26 to be in Gainesville, Ga.  Only about an                                                                                                                                                                    
hour and 20 minutes north of Atlanta via I-85 and then I-985.                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Sponsored by the Southeastern DeLorean Owners Club (SEDOC).  Call Tom Long,                                                                                                                                                                     
(770-449-1968) or Byrne Heninger (770-536-2410) for more information.                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Keys                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Date: 9-Aug-99 20:29:57 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Hi everyone                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Just to let you know I just recieved my keys from Lee Seiler last week,                                                                                                                                                                         
The're absolutely wonderful!!!  We all need too thank Lee  For seeing this                                                                                                                                                                      
project through  and dedicating so much of his not-so-sparetime to this and                                                                                                                                                                     
many other projects he has going that benefit us. I f it wasn't for Lee I                                                                                                                                                                       
wouldn't have an original type key for my car. Because when I bought my car                                                                                                                                                                     
the original owner hadn't driven the car for 2yrs. and somehow lost the                                                                                                                                                                         
original keys and had to have a locksmith make a key from an Ilco x29 key                                                                                                                                                                       
blank.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
As for the keys the're exact copies of the originals including a slight flaw                                                                                                                                                                    
that all the originals have , according to Lee. Their is one improvement,                                                                                                                                                                       
these key blanks are brass not steel, the steel originals tended to rust and                                                                                                                                                                    
wear-out the lock  mechanizisms.                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
kudos, Lee                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Dennis,  vin 5180 GULLWNG                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] DMC-12 for sale                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Date: 9-Aug-99 22:11:19 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
1981 DeLorean for sale                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
65K miles                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
Built October '81                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
Grey interior                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
Stainless Exterior                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Automatic Transmission                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Car is located in San Diego, CA...                                                                                                                                                                                                              
 Price $8850                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I saw the car prior to restoration, but have not seen it since then.. From                                                                                                                                                                      
what I hear, the car is in excellent condition.. I might be able to get                                                                                                                                                                         
pictures of the car.  For more information, call the owner  619-672-1727                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Christopher Mack                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
cjmack@jps.net                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: gear shift boot                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Date: 10-Aug-99 1:47:26 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Brad,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
The original boot has a plastic frame that becomes brittle as it ages. It                                                                                                                                                                       
is likely that while your car was being serviced it was removed and broke.                                                                                                                                                                      
New boots with metal frames are available from DeLorean parts suppliers.                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: Brad Fudge <bfudge@sprynet.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                           
To: dmcnews@egroups.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Subject: [DML] gear shift boot                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Date: Monday, August 09, 1999 5:52 PM                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Just got my car back from the shop.  The gear shift boot now moves forward                                                                                                                                                                      
and backward when I shift into the respective gears. When the boot moves                                                                                                                                                                        
forward it leaves a gap at the point where the boot base normally covered                                                                                                                                                                       
the console.  Does anyone know what would cause the boot to move and how I                                                                                                                                                                      
can fix the problem?  The boot has never moved before!  Thanks.                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: Commercial Posting Policy                                                                                                                                                                                                    
Date: 10-Aug-99 2:40:22 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Hi Claude,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Can I have your e-mail address for those times I'm looking for a part.  I do                                                                                                                                                                    
believe in supporting our parts suppliers, however there are people out                                                                                                                                                                         
there like Claude who can be of great assistance to us all who may not be                                                                                                                                                                       
suppliers but are none the less a great asset for this car.                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Thanks                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Mike Atkinson                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
vin 16232                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
mikeatk@concentric.net                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: <CBL302@aol.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
To: <dmcnews@egroups.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 11:44 PM                                                                                                                                                                                                        
Subject: [DML] Re: Commercial Posting Policy                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> In a message dated 8/5/99 10:56:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,                                                                                                                                                                                  
> RappaRivaRat@erols.com writes:                                                                                                                                                                                                                
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> <<  I suppose we need to further define                                                                                                                                                                                                       
>       "commercial" here as being "for profit" as opposed to a private                                                                                                                                                                         
> individual                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
>       offering for sale personal property that may be of interest to the                                                                                                                                                                      
DML                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
> >>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Why not have a section in the DMCNEWS,for people like me who have                                                                                                                                                                             
collected                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
>  DMC parts,(I have seventeen years of parts) and and accessories and now                                                                                                                                                                      
want                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
> to sell them to someone who may need them,or will that conflict with the                                                                                                                                                                      
big                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
> three D suppliers.                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Claude                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
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Subject: [DML] Delorean Demographics?                                                                                                                                                                                                           
Date: 10-Aug-99 6:59:50 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I've been reading the DMC news for several months religiously and                                                                                                                                                                               
noticed a                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
pervasive absence of women writing in or women owners of Deloreans.                                                                                                                                                                             
Would the moderators be able to provide any stats with the ratio of men                                                                                                                                                                         
to women on the list or  men to  women owner ratios?                                                                                                                                                                                            
My impression is that the Delorean is a very male oriented car, women                                                                                                                                                                           
seam to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
 love the car also (lots of supportive wife's out there like mine)                                                                                                                                                                              
but ownership seams almost exclusively male dominated.                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Mike D.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Vin 3113                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
NY Lic DELORIANN (named after the very supportive wife by the way)                                                                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: Model Flux Capacitors                                                                                                                                                                                                        
Date: 10-Aug-99 7:56:07 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Dear DML,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Well, I have been on the list for several months now, and I guess this is now my time to come out of the dark. I just want to say that that this is a truly great thing. All these people gathering together to discus the magnificent machine. 
I think making full size Flux Capacitor Models is a GREAT idea!                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Christian Savage                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Well, I have been on the list for several months                                                                                                                                                                
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<tt>Robert,</tt><tt></tt>                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
<p><tt>The car at the Harrah's Collection in Reno is "a specially built                                                                                                                                                                         
1982 Dodge Charger.&nbsp; It is one of six that were specially built by                                                                                                                                                                         
PPG Industries in cooperation with the Chrysler Corporation to be a pace                                                                                                                                                                        
car for the CART-sanctioned PPG Indy Car World Series.&nbsp; The car saw                                                                                                                                                                        
service pacing the 1982 and early 1983 races.&nbsp; Its SOHC turbocharged                                                                                                                                                                       
4 cylinder engine develops 195 horsepower out of 134.6 cu in (2.2 litre)."</tt><tt></tt>                                                                                                                                                        
<p><tt>Hey, you just got a preview of part of my latest Museum article                                                                                                                                                                          
for the next DeLorean World.</tt><tt></tt>                                                                                                                                                                                                      
<p><tt>Hank Breer</tt><tt></tt>                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
<p><tt>Robert Brandys wrote:</tt><tt></tt>                                                                                                                                                                                                      
<p><tt>> If you really what to get confused, visit the Harod's autombile                                                                                                                                                                        
museum</tt>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
<br><tt>>&nbsp; in Reno.&nbsp; They have a PPG pace car from the 80's.&nbsp;                                                                                                                                                                    
The door PERFECTLY</tt>                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
<br><tt>>&nbsp; match those of the DeLorean!&nbsp; Most of the cabin body                                                                                                                                                                       
also matches the</tt>                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
<br><tt>>&nbsp; DeLorean.&nbsp; Was this a DeLorean made into the race                                                                                                                                                                          
car.&nbsp; It sure look</tt>                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
<br><tt>>&nbsp; like it to me!!!</tt>                                                                                                                                                                                                           
<br><tt>---------</tt>                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
<br><tt>> I have a picture of the PPG car somewhere.&nbsp; This is no question                                                                                                                                                                  
it was</tt>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
<br><tt>> a DeLorean to start with.&nbsp; Does any one live in Reno?</tt></html>                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: Digital Dashboard                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Date: 10-Aug-99 12:56:56 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Robert,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
The company you are referring to was DeLorean Specialties, Inc Philadelphia                                                                                                                                                                     
PA.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
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> From: DMC3309@aol.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
> Subject: [DML] Re: Digital Dashboard                                                                                                                                                                                                          
> Date: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 10:15 PM                                                                                                                                                                                                       
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> I remember a number of years ago there was a company the use to advertise                                                                                                                                                                     
in                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
> hemmings motor news.  They offered a digital dash for the Delorean but                                                                                                                                                                        
you                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
> had to send your stock dash in to them to be converted.  Does anyone else                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> remember this company in Hemmings?                                                                                                                                                                                                            
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Robert                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
> VIN 3309                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
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Subject: [DML] Re: Mildew in the South                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Date: 10-Aug-99 14:58:56 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
One sure way to keep that Southern mildew off your DMC-12 is to DRIVE it each                                                                                                                                                                   
and every week. Keep the dream alive....... and mildew free!                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: RPM relay                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
Date: 10-Aug-99 12:07:17 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
The idle speed oscillation (hunting) is normal when cold for DeLorean.                                                                                                                                                                          
I had a brand new DMC in '83 and it did (oscillated) the same thing.                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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--- Robert Brandys <oehcs@flash.net> wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                                     
> My stock D have an unusual symptom recently.  It                                                                                                                                                                                              
> would hunt the idle                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
> speed until the car warmed up.                                                                                                                                                                                                                
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> This weekend the RPM relayed died and the car had to                                                                                                                                                                                          
> be towed home.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> I had a spare relay and the car is just fine now.                                                                                                                                                                                             
> The idle speed at                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
> start up is also steady.                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> This idle speed hunting appears to have been an                                                                                                                                                                                               
> early warning sign of                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
> emmint RPM relay failure.                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Just thought the list members would like to know.                                                                                                                                                                                             
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Dr. Bob                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
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Subject: [DML] 1:24 interior grey matching!!!                                                                                                                                                                                                   
Date: 10-Aug-99 14:04:21 -0600                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Hi Robert,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
The blue choice stipulated by the kit instructions will be due to them                                                                                                                                                                          
sourcing the colour from a couple of interior shots I have seen that do give                                                                                                                                                                    
off a deceptive blue hue.  The hue is an illusion.  All 6-7 DMC-12's                                                                                                                                                                            
modified with all the time circuits had the grey interiors.                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
If you have access to the Tamiya acrylics I recommend the light grey and the                                                                                                                                                                    
one up also from that.  Mix a little of each grey to match the interior.                                                                                                                                                                        
The seats already are grey plastic, but the sheen is not leather like, so                                                                                                                                                                       
paint all the relevant trim with your correct tone of grey.  Then mix a                                                                                                                                                                         
slightly darker wash and brush that on.  Carefully wipe the wash so it only                                                                                                                                                                     
remains along the stitch lines etc which will bring out the detail in the                                                                                                                                                                       
seats and other fittings.                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
For sourcing the DMC grey interior I would recommend Travis' webpage.  In my                                                                                                                                                                    
opinion it is one of the best DMC websites as for one he has used his own                                                                                                                                                                       
pictures.  It has professional composed look and also has some excellent                                                                                                                                                                        
shots of his light grey interior.  The link is:-                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
http://www.delorean.org/tgraham/thecar.htm                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Good luck, and if any more questions let me know!!!                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
regards                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Christopher Hawes                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
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(DMD) Delorean Model Dealership                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Hi, I am working on building the BTTF 2 DeLorean (AMT Ertl),                                                                                                                                                                                    
but I do not want to paint the interior BLUE, as the instructions say.                                                                                                                                                                          
  Instead, I would rather match the interior of a REAL DeLorean:                                                                                                                                                                                
either black or gray.  Could any of you share with me what shade of                                                                                                                                                                             
paint they used for the black/gray?                                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Thanks,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Robert                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
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Subject: [DML] Re: Help on DMC Model                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Date: 10-Aug-99 17:24:00 -0600                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Robert,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I know that it sounds stupid to paint the interior with "Intermekdiate Blue"                                                                                                                                                                    
I am half way through with my second BTTF model,  but the Intermediate Blue                                                                                                                                                                     
is really an off shade of grey  (Basically grey with a tint of blue).  I                                                                                                                                                                        
have a DeLorean with a grey interior, and the color is almost an exact                                                                                                                                                                          
match.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
BTW. here are the specs of the paint I use: Model Master, Intermediate Blue,                                                                                                                                                                    
FS 35164                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Hi, I am working on building the BTTF 2 DeLorean (AMT Ertl),                                                                                                                                                                                    
but I do not want to paint the interior BLUE, as the instructions say.                                                                                                                                                                          
 Instead, I would rather match the interior of a REAL DeLorean:                                                                                                                                                                                 
either black or gray.  Could any of you share with me what shade of                                                                                                                                                                             
paint they used for the black/gray?                                                                                                                                                                                                             
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Subject: [DML] Re: Was the DeLorean really a GM concept?                                                                                                                                                                                        
Date: 10-Aug-99 20:58:35 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
In a message dated 8/10/99 1:03:54 AM Central Daylight Time, oehcs@flash.net                                                                                                                                                                    
writes:                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
<< I have a picture of the PPG car somewhere.  This is no question it was a                                                                                                                                                                     
 DeLorean to start with.  Does any one live in Reno? >>                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I have two pictures of the car in question. If interested, please e-mail me                                                                                                                                                                     
and I'll try to forward them to you.                                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Dave                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
1981 DeLorean                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
1992 Subaru SVX                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: Keys                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Date: 10-Aug-99 21:46:47 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I noticed before that people have mentioned theses keys from Lee                                                                                                                                                                                
do they have the logo and light fob on them??                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I have tried many places for these ,to no avail                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
thanks for any help                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
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Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Demographics?                                                                                                                                                                                                       
Date: 10-Aug-99 21:42:35 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I'd agree that it's primarily a male audience. As a long time subscriber I                                                                                                                                                                      
recall a few female posters, but not more than a few. Since all I can see is                                                                                                                                                                    
a list of 817 email addresses, about half with "real" names, I can't really                                                                                                                                                                     
develop any demographics.                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> noticed a                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
> pervasive absence of women writing in or women owners of Deloreans.                                                                                                                                                                           
> Would the moderators be able to provide any stats with the ratio of men                                                                                                                                                                       
> to women on the list or  men to  women owner ratios?                                                                                                                                                                                          
> Mike D.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Keys/lights/tv show                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Date: 10-Aug-99 19:47:24 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
hello                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
I want to get my keys copied i have the original key to my car ,but its                                                                                                                                                                         
starting to rust how much does it cost and how long does it take? also                                                                                                                                                                          
my delorean has a yellow and orange rear light. does any one have the                                                                                                                                                                           
rigth side yellow rear light set i like that yellow look instead of the                                                                                                                                                                         
orange look! and while im at it i have a skate show on tv and im going                                                                                                                                                                          
to start the new season of the show buy having deloreans on the show so                                                                                                                                                                         
if any one lives in the los Angeles area and is willing to come down                                                                                                                                                                            
let me know!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Demographics?                                                                                                                                                                                                       
Date: 11-Aug-99 0:41:58 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
We have many female owners in our database. The fact is that many of them                                                                                                                                                                       
are not very technically oriented therefore they may not feel comfortable                                                                                                                                                                       
with a lot of "tech talk". We know there are ladies out there who are                                                                                                                                                                           
reading this post right now and several of them who do occasionally make                                                                                                                                                                        
themselves heard.                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Don't be fooled, there are lots of female DeLorean owners, they just do                                                                                                                                                                         
more listening and less talking.                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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> From: mdeluca@comtechpst.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
> Subject: [DML] Delorean Demographics?                                                                                                                                                                                                         
> Date: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 9:59 AM                                                                                                                                                                                                        
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> I've been reading the DMC news for several months religiously and                                                                                                                                                                             
> noticed a                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
> pervasive absence of women writing in or women owners of Deloreans.                                                                                                                                                                           
> Would the moderators be able to provide any stats with the ratio of men                                                                                                                                                                       
> to women on the list or  men to  women owner ratios?                                                                                                                                                                                          
> My impression is that the Delorean is a very male oriented car, women                                                                                                                                                                         
> seam to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
>  love the car also (lots of supportive wife's out there like mine)                                                                                                                                                                            
> but ownership seams almost exclusively male dominated.                                                                                                                                                                                        
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Mike D.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
> Vin 3113                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
> NY Lic DELORIANN (named after the very supportive wife by the way)                                                                                                                                                                            
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Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Demographics?                                                                                                                                                                                                       
Date: 10-Aug-99 23:22:58 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
A large number of the owners listed in the DeLorean Owners Directory are                                                                                                                                                                        
couples, listed with the mens name first (Patty and Mike Substelny are                                                                                                                                                                          
exceptions). There are a few women, but with some of the names it's hard                                                                                                                                                                        
to tell. The DeLorean is definitely NOT just a guy car.                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
About the DOD:                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
I'm still getting the additions from over the last year cleaned up. I'll                                                                                                                                                                        
send a confirmation notice out to everyone who has submitted their info                                                                                                                                                                         
from the last few weeks on. We'll let the owners know how to acquire a                                                                                                                                                                          
copy of the DOD when we get that part worked out.                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Ken Montgomery                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Keeper of the DeLorean Owners Directory                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> -----Original Message-----                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
> From: mdeluca@comtechpst.com [mailto:mdeluca@comtechpst.com]                                                                                                                                                                                  
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 7:00 AM                                                                                                                                                                                                        
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
> Subject: [DML] Delorean Demographics?                                                                                                                                                                                                         
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> I've been reading the DMC news for several months religiously and                                                                                                                                                                             
> noticed a                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
> pervasive absence of women writing in or women owners of Deloreans.                                                                                                                                                                           
> Would the moderators be able to provide any stats with the                                                                                                                                                                                    
> ratio of men                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
> to women on the list or  men to  women owner ratios?                                                                                                                                                                                          
> My impression is that the Delorean is a very male oriented car, women                                                                                                                                                                         
> seam to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
>  love the car also (lots of supportive wife's out there like mine)                                                                                                                                                                            
> but ownership seams almost exclusively male dominated.                                                                                                                                                                                        
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Mike D.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
> Vin 3113                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
> NY Lic DELORIANN (named after the very supportive wife by the way)                                                                                                                                                                            
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
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Ken Montgomery	    Sacramento, CA     VIN #10911     'OUTTIME'                                                                                                                                                                                  
http://www.jps.net/arkham/delorean01.htm	 kenm@csus.edu                                                                                                                                                                                         
Northern California DeLorean Motor Club                                                                                                                                                                                                         
http://members.tripod.com/ncdmc/                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Date: 11-Aug-99 22:06:50 +1000                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
TO ALL AUSTRALIAN DMC READERS,  I HAVE REDUCED THE PRICE OF MY DMC VIN NO' 6027 TO $25,000 .  PLEASE E:MAIL IF YOU ARE INTERESTED.  LOU  MELBOURNE AUST.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: Keys/lights/tv show                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Date: 11-Aug-99 8:44:51 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I will leave the key question for other list members. All of the original                                                                                                                                                                       
rear lenses are amber, cars that are stored outdoors may suffer from sun                                                                                                                                                                        
fading which changes the color to yellow. I believe we have a couple of                                                                                                                                                                         
these sitting on our used parts shelf. Be aware that some states consider                                                                                                                                                                       
the faded lenses as a violation. Contact us directly for more information.                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>                                                                                                                                                                                                  
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> From: efren hicks <marty_mcflyjr@yahoo.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                   
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
> Subject: [DML] Keys/lights/tv show                                                                                                                                                                                                            
> Date: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 10:47 PM                                                                                                                                                                                                       
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> hello                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
> I want to get my keys copied i have the original key to my car ,but its                                                                                                                                                                       
> starting to rust how much does it cost and how long does it take? also                                                                                                                                                                        
> my delorean has a yellow and orange rear light. does any one have the                                                                                                                                                                         
> rigth side yellow rear light set i like that yellow look instead of the                                                                                                                                                                       
> orange look! and while im at it i have a skate show on tv and im going                                                                                                                                                                        
> to start the new season of the show buy having deloreans on the show so                                                                                                                                                                       
> if any one lives in the los Angeles area and is willing to come down                                                                                                                                                                          
> let me know!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> efren #16072                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] A/C Ducts                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
Date: 11-Aug-99 9:57:21 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Group,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Here in Texas its HOT. So when I fired up the big D and cranked on the                                                                                                                                                                          
huffer, boy was I disappointed to find the center ducts not blowing that                                                                                                                                                                        
delicious cool air. Yes they are open. And yes the door ducts are blowing. It                                                                                                                                                                   
seems to be something deeper down restricting them. Anybody got any ideas?                                                                                                                                                                      
MHL                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: Help on DMC Model                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Date: 11-Aug-99 7:37:07 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Robert,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I am also working on the BTTF 2 model by Aoshima. The seats come in gray to start with, so I would leave them alone. I will check my instructions and see if it really calls for blue. From what I remember, my instructions are to paint the al
I would just leave them. Keep me informed of your progress.                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
The Genius                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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On Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:18:19    Robert Greenhaw wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] I am still here                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Date: 11-Aug-99 8:52:31 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Hi to all DML members,                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
	Yes I am still here and working on the limited edition and DMC keys.                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
	I am responding to all the e-mail, but it takes time to catch up so please                                                                                                                                                                     
be patient.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
	Just consider for a moment that if you called me on the phone or wrote me                                                                                                                                                                      
a letter It 	might take days to hear back from me. This instant messaging                                                                                                                                                                       
on the Internet is all well 	and good but may create an uneasiness or                                                                                                                                                                           
apprehension when an instant response is 	not forth coming.                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
	Please give me time to get to you if you have sent e-mail and have not yet                                                                                                                                                                     
received a 	reply, you will!                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
	I enjoy the mail and your comments so please "DO" feel free to send e-mail.                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Thanks                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] NEW INFO: 1981 Delorean for sale                                                                                                                                                                                                 
Date: 11-Aug-99 10:37:55 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: DONALD@SMTP (Donald Kazmark) {donald.kazmark@peri.com}                                                                                                                                                                                    
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Subject: [DML] paint removal                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
Date: 11-Aug-99 14:21:34 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Does anyone have any experience in converting a  painted car back to                                                                                                                                                                            
sainless. Is it a big job, and what are the results?Any comments would                                                                                                                                                                          
be highly appriciated....                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
Donald Kazmark                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
no vin yet.......soon soon!                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: The car's the star...                                                                                                                                                                                                        
Date: 11-Aug-99 19:31:30 +0100                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
A few of you will remember an issue surrounding a certain BBCTV presenter by the name of                                                                                                                                                        
Quentin Wilson - of a book with his name on it woefully misrepresenting the DeLorean.                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I got a mail today from a fellow UK club member who I have yet to have the pleasure of meeting                                                                                                                                                  
in person, and who is also a member of the DML - Chris Hawes. I hope you don't mind me pasting                                                                                                                                                  
in part of your mail!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Christopher Hawes wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I emailed the BBC a month or so ago and asked Quentin Willson why the                                                                                                                                                                           
Delorean to my knowledge which although had been mentioned but never                                                                                                                                                                            
appeared as a feature.  Well he phoned me up personally a few weeks ago and                                                                                                                                                                     
told me that he was including the DMC-12 in the new series on The Car is the                                                                                                                                                                    
Star programmes.  This should be out in the autumn.  He has plenty of cars                                                                                                                                                                      
sourced and is also filming in the States.  I also asked him why when Dave's                                                                                                                                                                    
car was photographed for his 'The Ultimate Classic Car' book a couple of                                                                                                                                                                        
years ago that the wrong information had been included.  He said that he had                                                                                                                                                                    
not been involved at that point or something along those lines                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Well, there you go!                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Martin                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
John Dore wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> Hi there,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
> Richard Porter, from an English TV show, called "The car's the Star" has                                                                                                                                                                      
> asked if I could help him make a show about the DeLorean.                                                                                                                                                                                     
> He wants to film in the Detroit area next week, and would like to meet some                                                                                                                                                                   
> ex-delorean dealers in the Detroit area...                                                                                                                                                                                                    
> Please reply to him at richard.porter.02@bbc.co.uk if you have any info that                                                                                                                                                                  
> might be of help                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
> Thank you!!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
> John Dore                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
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Subject: [DML] Re: paint removal                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Date: 11-Aug-99 19:47:35 +0000                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Donald,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
My car D use to be black but the paint started to peel so I stripped it off.                                                                                                                                                                    
All it took was a gallon of Jasco paint remover and about half a day's time.                                                                                                                                                                    
The stainless finish was fine underneath, the only real problem was the fact                                                                                                                                                                    
that I used a razor blade to scrape the paint off and so I had some                                                                                                                                                                             
inadvertant scratches to buff out. Maybe a softer scraper would have been a                                                                                                                                                                     
better choice, perhaps wood or plastic as long as you clean it frequently                                                                                                                                                                       
(Methylene Chloride is the active ingredient in Jasco and it melts a lot of                                                                                                                                                                     
plastics). The key is take your time.                                                                                                                                                                                                           
-SweatyEddy                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: Donald Kazmark <donald.kazmark@peri.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                  
To: <dmcnews@egroups.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 6:21 PM                                                                                                                                                                                                        
Subject: [DML] paint removal                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> Does anyone have any experience in converting a  painted car back to                                                                                                                                                                          
> sainless. Is it a big job, and what are the results?Any comments would                                                                                                                                                                        
> be highly appriciated....                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
> Donald Kazmark                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> no vin yet.......soon soon!                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
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Subject: [DML] Delorean 007 contest!                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Date: 11-Aug-99 14:50:05 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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    To spice things up on the DML, Brilliant Screen Entertainment is hosting                                                                                                                                                                    
a Delorean-related contest.  The winner will receive a copy of the new                                                                                                                                                                          
Delorean Video, runner-ups will gain fame in the DML community.  Here's the                                                                                                                                                                     
concept, we are creating a "top-ten" list of "Why the DMC-12 was never a                                                                                                                                                                        
James Bond car" or conversely, "Why the DMC-12 would make a good James Bond                                                                                                                                                                     
car."                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
    To enter, send your idea(s) for either list directly to:                                                                                                                                                                                    
Bond@brilliantscreen.com  Please DO NOT clutter the DML by sending them                                                                                                                                                                         
there.  We will pick the best ones, compile them and post them to the DML                                                                                                                                                                       
after the contest ends.  Contest ends August 31, 1999.  Keep the dream                                                                                                                                                                          
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            -Ace Underhill-                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
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Subject: [DML] Crash Test Video Update                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Date: 11-Aug-99 16:41:04 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
To update you on the status of the crash test video, currently I am waiting for the Master Tapes to arrive first so that I can view the quality. I want to make sure that everything is in good condition so that I don't disappoint anyone. To 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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p.s. If the link for my e-mail address doesn't work, just click on the other one in the header of this message.                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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<P><FONT size=2>To update you on the status of the crash test video, currently I                                                                                                                                                                
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I want to make sure that everything is in good condition so that I don't                                                                                                                                                                        
disappoint anyone. To fill in everyone as to what's on the tape, here goes. The                                                                                                                                                                 
car is 1981 model, and it was tested in 1981. It has been modified to fit an air                                                                                                                                                                
bag, but that is the only modification (why this was done, I have no idea). The                                                                                                                                                                 
car is tested as crashing head-on into a solid wall. Angles include: Outside                                                                                                                                                                    
looking at the full drivers side, and a separate camera for the full passenger                                                                                                                                                                  
side. I'm not sure if there is an over head shot, however, there are cameras                                                                                                                                                                    
mounted inside of the car to capture the crash from the perspective of the                                                                                                                                                                      
driver and passenger. And of course there is a slo-mo replay. This is what I was                                                                                                                                                                
told, however l won't know for sure until I get the tapes. If you have anymore                                                                                                                                                                  
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Subject: [DML] need insight!                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
Date: 11-Aug-99 17:38:15 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
hello my fellow delorean owners and fanatics,                                                                                                                                                                                                   
i was just wondering if anybody has ever installed a fuel accumulator                                                                                                                                                                           
themselfs and if so, could you tell me how?  me and my dad are going to                                                                                                                                                                         
work on the D soon and would like something to fall back on and get                                                                                                                                                                             
some pointers from.                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
another thing, i recently got my front shocks replaced and i just                                                                                                                                                                               
noticed that when i turn right kinda hard that it makes a banging                                                                                                                                                                               
noise....only sometimes, not all.  any insight would be great                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: Keys                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Date: 11-Aug-99 17:52:08 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Hi Neil                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Sorry,but they only have the logo on them . the key with the light is much                                                                                                                                                                      
more involved to try to reproduce                                                                                                                                                                                                               
you can e-mail lee directly at lseiler@radiance.com     or he said that he                                                                                                                                                                      
is now suppling the major parts dealers with them  for  retail sales.                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Dennis  5180 GULLWNG                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
On Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:46:47 EDT, NELLYMAC1@aol.com wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> I noticed before that people have mentioned theses keys from Lee                                                                                                                                                                              
> do they have the logo and light fob on them??                                                                                                                                                                                                 
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> I have tried many places for these ,to no avail                                                                                                                                                                                               
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> thanks for any help                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
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Subject: [DML] Re: Keys/lights/tv show                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Date: 11-Aug-99 18:17:03 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Hi Efren                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
You'll have to buy the key blanks from lee seiler or one of the major parts                                                                                                                                                                     
suppliers.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
Keys from lee are $20 + sh  for 2    From the other guys I have no idea.                                                                                                                                                                        
Then take them to your local locksmith to have them cut . Mine were $5 each                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Your yellow tailliight used to be the standard DOT amber and for some reason                                                                                                                                                                    
has faded .I,But not the rightt happened to my left lens also, but not the                                                                                                                                                                      
right lens. This appears to be common when the cars are stored out side                                                                                                                                                                         
unprotected from UV rays.                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Please explain more about your TV show . What do mean by Skate show ,                                                                                                                                                                           
ice,roller,inline,board. How would a delorean fit in with that format?                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
On Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:47:24 -0700 (PDT), efren hicks wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> hello                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
> I want to get my keys copied i have the original key to my car ,but its                                                                                                                                                                       
> starting to rust how much does it cost and how long does it take? also                                                                                                                                                                        
> my delorean has a yellow and orange rear light. does any one have the                                                                                                                                                                         
> rigth side yellow rear light set i like that yellow look instead of the                                                                                                                                                                       
> orange look! and while im at it i have a skate show on tv and im going                                                                                                                                                                        
> to start the new season of the show buy having deloreans on the show so                                                                                                                                                                       
> if any one lives in the los Angeles area and is willing to come down                                                                                                                                                                          
> let me know!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
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Subject: [DML] Re: paint removal                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Date: 11-Aug-99 18:49:57 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Hey Donald                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Buy one thats not painted . The're readily avaliable.  You never know what                                                                                                                                                                      
is under the paint  and yes it would be a very big job. Rob Grady of PJ                                                                                                                                                                         
Grady's owns a beautiful green delorean that he painted only because the                                                                                                                                                                        
stainless was beyond repair.                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Dennis                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:21:34 -0400, Donald Kazmark wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> Does anyone have any experience in converting a  painted car back to                                                                                                                                                                          
> sainless. Is it a big job, and what are the results?Any comments would                                                                                                                                                                        
> be highly appriciated....                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
> Donald Kazmark                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> no vin yet.......soon soon!                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
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Subject: [DML] Re: paint removal                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Date: 11-Aug-99 22:58:25 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
If the car's already painted, best to leave it that way.  Mine was painted by                                                                                                                                                                   
a previous owner and needed to be repainted so I stripped the hood just to                                                                                                                                                                      
get a look at the stainless.  It was a big job.  The flat areas aren't so                                                                                                                                                                       
bad, but when you get to corners and recesses, it gets tough.  Also, if the                                                                                                                                                                     
stainless was sanded prior to primering, you may have deep scratches that may                                                                                                                                                                   
be difficult or impossible to remove.                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: Crash Test Video Update                                                                                                                                                                                                      
Date: 11-Aug-99 23:41:35 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
In-reply-to: <002F01BEE4546A16>8880$bf08490c                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, J.M. Rooney wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> the tape, here goes. The car is 1981 model, and it was tested in 1981.                                                                                                                                                                        
> It has been modified to fit an air bag, but that is the only                                                                                                                                                                                  
> modification (why this was done, I have no idea). The car is tested as                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I believe the original intent was to have air bags installed in the car                                                                                                                                                                         
(whether as standard or an option I do not know), but at the time there                                                                                                                                                                         
were no manufacturers capable of supplying enough volume.                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: A/C Ducts                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
Date: 12-Aug-99 8:56:16 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
MHL said:                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> . . .  when I fired up the big D and cranked on the                                                                                                                                                                                           
> huffer, boy was I disappointed to find the center ducts not blowing that                                                                                                                                                                      
> delicious cool air. Yes they are open. And yes the door ducts are blowing.                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Until I subscribed to the DML I thought that poor flow through the center vents was normal.                                                                                                                                                     
In an early issue I learnred that it is NOT normal, but it is common.  There are two soft                                                                                                                                                       
polymer boots behind the dash that connect the ductwork to the center vents.  Frequently these                                                                                                                                                  
boots will slip backwards and collapse, blowing that delicious cool air onto your radio                                                                                                                                                         
instead of you.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
You may not have to disassemble the dash to fix this!  Just pop the vent deflectors out of                                                                                                                                                      
their sockets.  Using a flashlight and some long tools (e.g. screwdrivers, long tweezers) you                                                                                                                                                   
might be able to put these boots back in place by reaching through the vents.  It worked for                                                                                                                                                    
me.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
You can find more information about this by searching the DML back issues.                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: need insight!                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Date: 12-Aug-99 9:39:14 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
erik,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
The fuel accumulator replacement is a labor intensive procedure even if you                                                                                                                                                                     
have done it several times; here's a tip. Get the entire car up in the air                                                                                                                                                                      
i.e.: four jack stands on all for corners. Have a drain pan ready to catch                                                                                                                                                                      
the quart or so of gas that will leak out of the accumulator and adjoining                                                                                                                                                                      
fuel lines. Good luck.                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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> From: delorean502@excite.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
> Subject: [DML] need insight!                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
> Date: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 8:38 PM                                                                                                                                                                                                      
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> hello my fellow delorean owners and fanatics,                                                                                                                                                                                                 
> i was just wondering if anybody has ever installed a fuel accumulator                                                                                                                                                                         
> themselfs and if so, could you tell me how?  me and my dad are going to                                                                                                                                                                       
> work on the D soon and would like something to fall back on and get                                                                                                                                                                           
> some pointers from.                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
> another thing, i recently got my front shocks replaced and i just                                                                                                                                                                             
> noticed that when i turn right kinda hard that it makes a banging                                                                                                                                                                             
> noise....only sometimes, not all.  any insight would be great                                                                                                                                                                                 
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> erik geerdink                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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To All,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
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Subject: [DML] DeLorean Posters and Expo Poll                                                                                                                                                                                                   
Date: 12-Aug-99 10:36:58 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
DMC in Houston has a poster on ebay that they say is the most rare or rarest                                                                                                                                                                    
of all DeLorean posters. Can anyone comment on this poster and what other                                                                                                                                                                       
posters are there?                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&userid=deloreanmotorcompany&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Also, only 19 people have bothered to answer the poll I started a few days                                                                                                                                                                      
ago - I thought there were over 800-some people on the list? Where are you                                                                                                                                                                      
all?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] re: Accumlator replacment (was need insight)                                                                                                                                                                                     
Date: 12-Aug-99 10:26:14 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Eric - Another comment on accumulator replacement - make sure you remove the                                                                                                                                                                    
small tray at the back of the console, and then the plastic cover plate                                                                                                                                                                         
under that. That is where you can hold the back of the fuel line fitting                                                                                                                                                                        
while you detach it from underneath. If you don't do this you WILL kink the                                                                                                                                                                     
fuel line. At that point, you'll realize that the line is run in-between the                                                                                                                                                                    
frame and the body. Not a pretty thought.                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> Subject: [DML] need insight!                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
> Date: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 8:38 PM                                                                                                                                                                                                      
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> hello my fellow delorean owners and fanatics,                                                                                                                                                                                                 
> i was just wondering if anybody has ever installed a fuel accumulator                                                                                                                                                                         
> themselfs and if so, could you tell me how?  me and my dad are going to                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Posters                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Date: 12-Aug-99 12:10:04 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Eric Goldstein wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> DMC in Houston has a poster on ebay that they say is the most rare or rarest                                                                                                                                                                  
> of all DeLorean posters. Can anyone comment on this poster and what other                                                                                                                                                                     
> posters are there?                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
This is the full color "Presenting America's Most Talked About Car!" poster that dealers used in early DeLorean promotions.  It shows a                                                                                                         
DeLorean smashing through a collage of true newspaper headlines and magazine covers which lead up to the DeLorean's debut.  As far as I                                                                                                         
know this poster was never offered to the public by the original DMC.  Because they are so large these posters are difficult to store;                                                                                                          
undoubtedly most have been destroyed by now.                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I have one of these posters.  It is beautiful, rare, and enormous.  I spent over $300 to have mine professionally mounted in a stainless &                                                                                                      
glass frame.  It was well worth the cost to avoid putting nail holes through my poster.                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Warning: it takes a large wall to display this huge poster properly.                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
As for other posters: the DOA has a nice one at its website, www.delorean-owners.org   This poster shows the DeLorean with its doors up.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
In the old days James Espey used to have another poster at the DMC News site.  I do not know what happened to these.  I have seen other                                                                                                         
DeLorean posters, but I don't know where to get them.                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
- Mike Substelny                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Posters and Expo Poll                                                                                                                                                                                               
Date: 12-Aug-99 14:30:54 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I saw this poster in Ohio last year when I was in the warehouse.  It is                                                                                                                                                                         
a nice poster, but it looked as if they had quite a few of them.  It was                                                                                                                                                                        
the first, and last time I had seen it so I guess it is "rare".                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
They were selling them for like $20 I think.  I had considered buying                                                                                                                                                                           
one, but $20 seemed like a lot for a poster.  In retrospect, I should                                                                                                                                                                           
have bought it.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
There are a number of interesting items on Ebay being sold by DMC                                                                                                                                                                               
Houston.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Eric Goldstein wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> DMC in Houston has a poster on ebay that they say is the most rare or rarest                                                                                                                                                                  
> of all DeLorean posters. Can anyone comment on this poster and what other                                                                                                                                                                     
> posters are there?                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&userid=deloreanmotorcompany&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25                                                                                                       
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Also, only 19 people have bothered to answer the poll I started a few days                                                                                                                                                                    
> ago - I thought there were over 800-some people on the list? Where are you                                                                                                                                                                    
> all?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
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From: DMC1219@SMTP (Richard Strecker) {dmc1219@one.net}                                                                                                                                                                                         
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Subject: [DML] Re: need insight!                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Date: 12-Aug-99 14:50:26 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Erik,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Maybe I was just lucky but,....it only took me 2 hours to change out the                                                                                                                                                                        
accumulator.  Some have taken 6 hours or longer.                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
The "trick" that I found was to release the hard tube fitting first.                                                                                                                                                                            
This is the one that goes to the 90degree elbow on the accumulator.  I                                                                                                                                                                          
used a 17mm tube nut wrench for this.  The handle was long enough that I                                                                                                                                                                        
could get an extension (vice grips) on it to get the leverage to break                                                                                                                                                                          
it loose.  Once this was done, I undid the four bolts in the bracket &                                                                                                                                                                          
with a little wiggling (of the accumulator) you can pull the entire                                                                                                                                                                             
assembly down through the access hole.  It does clear with all hoses                                                                                                                                                                            
connected.  At this point you can remove the bottom hose with the hose                                                                                                                                                                          
clamp and then the fitting on the top hose. Be aware that the bottom                                                                                                                                                                            
hose is the return line to the fuel tank and is full of fuel.  Have a                                                                                                                                                                           
container ready to catch about a quart of gasoline.                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
When you are ready to reinstall the accumulator, reattach the hoses.                                                                                                                                                                            
The "trick" here is that the hoses were twisted so that they didn't kink                                                                                                                                                                        
and close off fuel flow.  What you have to do is reinstall them with the                                                                                                                                                                        
twist. You'll be able to see pretty quickly just what direction & how                                                                                                                                                                           
much twist you have to put in when you start to reposition the                                                                                                                                                                                  
accumulator.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Best of luck on the operation.....                                                                                                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Erik,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
<p>Maybe I was just lucky but,....it only took me 2 hours to change out                                                                                                                                                                         
the accumulator.&nbsp; Some have taken 6 hours or longer.                                                                                                                                                                                       
<p>The "trick" that I found was to release the hard tube fitting first.&nbsp;                                                                                                                                                                   
This is the one that goes to the 90degree elbow on the accumulator.&nbsp;                                                                                                                                                                       
I used a 17mm tube nut wrench for this.&nbsp; The handle was long enough                                                                                                                                                                        
that I could get an extension (vice grips) on it to get the leverage to                                                                                                                                                                         
break it loose.&nbsp; Once this was done, I undid the four bolts in the                                                                                                                                                                         
bracket &amp; with a little wiggling (of the accumulator) you can pull                                                                                                                                                                          
the entire assembly down through the access hole.&nbsp; It does clear with                                                                                                                                                                      
all hoses connected.&nbsp; At this point you can remove the bottom hose                                                                                                                                                                         
with the hose clamp and then the fitting on the top hose. Be aware that                                                                                                                                                                         
the bottom hose is the return line to the fuel tank and is <b><u>full</u></b>                                                                                                                                                                   
of fuel.&nbsp; Have a container ready to catch about a quart of gasoline.                                                                                                                                                                       
<p>When you are ready to reinstall the accumulator, reattach the hoses.&nbsp;                                                                                                                                                                   
The "trick" here is that the hoses were twisted so that they didn't kink                                                                                                                                                                        
and close off fuel flow.&nbsp; What you have to do is reinstall them <u>with</u>                                                                                                                                                                
the twist. You'll be able to see pretty quickly just what direction &amp;                                                                                                                                                                       
how much twist you have to put in when you start to reposition the accumulator.                                                                                                                                                                 
<p>Best of luck on the operation.....                                                                                                                                                                                                           
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<p>Richard                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: DSWINGLE@SMTP (Dave Swingle) {dswingle@enteract.com}                                                                                                                                                                                      
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Subject: [DML] MORE Accumlator replacment                                                                                                                                                                                                       
Date: 12-Aug-99 19:07:28 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
One more thought - My comment about holding the back of the fitting from                                                                                                                                                                        
above only pertains if you are replacing the hoses as well (I did). If you                                                                                                                                                                      
are just changing the accumulator this will not be a problem.                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
dave                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: Dave Swingle <dswingle@enteract.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                      
To: dmcnews submit <dmcnews@egroups.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                        
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 10:26 AM                                                                                                                                                                                                        
Subject: re: Accumlator replacment (was need insight)                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> Eric - Another comment on accumulator replacement - make sure you remove                                                                                                                                                                      
the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
> small tray at the back of the console, and then the plastic cover plate                                                                                                                                                                       
> under that. That is where you can hold the back of the fuel line fitting                                                                                                                                                                      
> while you detach it from underneath. If you don't do this you WILL kink                                                                                                                                                                       
the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
> fuel line. At that point, you'll realize that the line is run in-between                                                                                                                                                                      
the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
> frame and the body. Not a pretty thought.                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: paint removal                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Date: 13-Aug-99 14:40:00 +0000                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
My Delorean was originally painted Imron black.  I had to use aircraft                                                                                                                                                                          
paint remover to get rid of the paint.  Nasty stuff.  However, with a D                                                                                                                                                                         
you can used wire brushes to speed up the removal.  It was actually                                                                                                                                                                             
easier than other paint removal jobs on regular cars.                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: Crash Test Video Update                                                                                                                                                                                                      
Date: 13-Aug-99 14:42:21 +0000                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Air bags were available at the time DeLorean was producing the car.                                                                                                                                                                             
However, since they were not mandatory (and with the Reagan                                                                                                                                                                                     
administration killing the requirement for such), John did not install                                                                                                                                                                          
them.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
The parts for air bags WERE available and were mass produced starting in                                                                                                                                                                        
1974.  I have three airbag cars from the 70s and they are better air                                                                                                                                                                            
bags than in cars today.                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] FW: Fan clutch question                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Date: 13-Aug-99 8:38:12 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
000Sensitivity: Personal                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
To whom it may concern, I would like to know more about the red dash light                                                                                                                                                                      
that is "flashing"  - fan clutch error.  I start my car weekly and drive it                                                                                                                                                                     
once a fortnight.  This last drive I used the A/C and it would come on                                                                                                                                                                          
intermitantly.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
I am not a mechanic, can the clutch issue be repaired by Volvo - any                                                                                                                                                                            
estimate on cost ??                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Ps. I also need repair suggestions for an inoperative window (the motor                                                                                                                                                                         
seems good -could the arm be broken)  I hear they were plastic.                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Sincerely                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: LEE@SMTP (Lee) {Lee@radiance.com}                                                                                                                                                                                                         
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Subject: [DML] Re: DMC the rights???                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Date: 13-Aug-99 8:55:33 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
In-reply-to: <19990813114617>.67456.qmail                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
At 12:46 PM 8/13/99 BST, you wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                                             
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>I am searching for the answer to who if anyone owns the DMC rights/copyright                                                                                                                                                                   
>etc.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>As far as I know Stephen Wynne owns the name, but as far as I can tell the                                                                                                                                                                     
>rest is oblivion.                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>Lotus deny the existence of at least one prototype that resides on-site.                                                                                                                                                                       
>They cannot sell it because no one can claim ownership.  The link for this                                                                                                                                                                     
>site is:-                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk/newsletter.htm                                                                                                                                                                                                 
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>I would like to know if producing any stock Delorean scaled models (not                                                                                                                                                                        
>kits) would be causing any kind of violation.  Universal own rights to                                                                                                                                                                         
>anything BTTF (Back To The Future) related so as long as the scaled model                                                                                                                                                                      
>cars are totally 100% original factory cars with the lourves etc there                                                                                                                                                                         
>should not be any problem if no one owns the rights.                                                                                                                                                                                           
>I have tried to contact Lee Seiler to find out what he came across regarding                                                                                                                                                                   
>this subject when trying to sell his kits, but he seems too busy to reply,                                                                                                                                                                     
>so can anyone help with this matter?                                                                                                                                                                                                           
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>On one last note I spoke to Martin (the UK site owner) for the first time                                                                                                                                                                      
>night.  A knowledgeable chap, I learnt quite a bit.  Thanks for the advice!                                                                                                                                                                    
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>regards                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>Christopher M. Hawes                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
>CMHDevelopment@Hotmail.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
reply:                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
For what it's worth:                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I own the copyright and trade secrets to my version of the stock scale models                                                                                                                                                                   
that I am selling.                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I am unclear why Mr. Haws has raised the issue of or is speculating about                                                                                                                                                                       
copyrights                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
in the scale models on the DML. I have an arrangement with Steve Wynne with                                                                                                                                                                     
regards to his interest in the DMC as well as JZD.                                                                                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I have directly corresponded with JZD and so far as my attorneys are                                                                                                                                                                            
concerned I own                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
all rights to the hand made art works (sculptures) of delorean sports coupe.                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
And Yes there are still Kits available.                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: FLUFFY@SMTP (William T Wilson) {fluffy@snurgle.org}                                                                                                                                                                                       
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Subject: [DML] Re: The R-30 or R-1 that is the question???                                                                                                                                                                                      
Date: 13-Aug-99 12:08:25 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
In-reply-to: <19990813101105>.49439.qmail                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Christopher Hawes wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> I have been trying to find out which Renault gearbox was fitted to the                                                                                                                                                                        
> Delorean.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
It is the R-30.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> I know that the R-1 albiet reversed roatation is fitted to the latest                                                                                                                                                                         
> 300+bhp twin-turbo V8 Lotus Espirit the DMC-12's only living relation.                                                                                                                                                                        
> By the way Lotus would want ú10000 ($15000) for the complete engine as                                                                                                                                                                        
> it should fit straight into the DMC-12 they are almost twins.                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
The bad news is that the Esprit drivetrain (besides being really                                                                                                                                                                                
expensive) is set up for mid-engine; the transmission won't work.  As with                                                                                                                                                                      
all V8 conversions, take measurements first; it may not fit.  As with all                                                                                                                                                                       
turbo conversions, figure out something to do with the intercoolers                                                                                                                                                                             
(doesn't Lotus use ram-scoops to supply the IC's?)  If the bolt pattern is                                                                                                                                                                      
the same that will improve matters tremendously.  Does anyone know if any                                                                                                                                                                       
other current engines share that bolt pattern?                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> I have heard that an R-30 is fitted to the DMC-12 and would like to know                                                                                                                                                                      
> that if this is the case then what are its horsepower/torque limits?                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Nobody really knows.  Conventional wisdom is about 300ft.lbs for the                                                                                                                                                                            
5-speed and about 200 for the auto.    I don't think anyone's ever built a                                                                                                                                                                      
DeLorean with more than 300HP, so "here there be dragons."                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] The R-30 or R-1 that is the question???                                                                                                                                                                                          
Date: 13-Aug-99 11:11:05 -0600                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Greetings everyone,                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I have been trying to find out which Renault gearbox was fitted to the                                                                                                                                                                          
Delorean.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I know that the R-1 albiet reversed roatation is fitted to the latest                                                                                                                                                                           
300+bhp twin-turbo V8 Lotus Espirit the DMC-12's only living relation.  By                                                                                                                                                                      
the way Lotus would want ú10000 ($15000) for the complete engine as it                                                                                                                                                                          
should fit straight into the DMC-12 they are almost twins.                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I have heard that an R-30 is fitted to the DMC-12 and would like to know                                                                                                                                                                        
that if this is the case then what are its horsepower/torque limits?                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
You are probably thinking, why not ask Renault?  Well I tried them but they                                                                                                                                                                     
do not know anything about there OWN transmissions!                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
So here I am, is there anyone on the list who has the knowledge to deconfuse                                                                                                                                                                    
me?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
regards                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Christopher M. Hawes                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
CMHDevelopment@Hotmail.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: The R-30 or R-1 that is the question???                                                                                                                                                                                      
Date: 13-Aug-99 12:20:07 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Actually, Don Steger (Delorean Motor Center) has, in his shop, a DMC with an                                                                                                                                                                    
approximately 500hp Intercooled Buick Grand National Turbo in it. It uses a                                                                                                                                                                     
DeLorean manual transmission with a custom-made bellhousing welded up from                                                                                                                                                                      
the original and a Buick part. This car does tend to eat transmissions,                                                                                                                                                                         
though. When I was there a few months ago the trans was in pieces.                                                                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
>William T Wilson wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
>Nobody really knows.  Conventional wisdom is about 300ft.lbs for the                                                                                                                                                                           
>5-speed and about 200 for the auto.    I don't think anyone's ever built a                                                                                                                                                                     
>DeLorean with more than 300HP, so "here there be dragons."                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] DMC-12 performance!!!                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Date: 13-Aug-99 11:46:59 -0600                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Has anyone fitting anything else rather than the PRV?                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Are there any supercharged/single/twin-turbo's owners out there?                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Share with us your experiences on reliablity, overheating, lag etc mpg cost                                                                                                                                                                     
and the rest of it.                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I know Rob has a DMC-12 BTTF modified with a Porsche 4-speed auto and Range                                                                                                                                                                     
Rover V8.  His link is :-                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
http://www2.delorean-midwest.org/delorean-midwest/html/featured_event.html                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Also in gallery on:-                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/7139/dgalleryp6.html                                                                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
In Oregon club magazine:- http://www.dmcnews.com/faq/img/news/news20.pdf                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Also Rich Cutter is in the process of fitting a V8 Northstar into a DMC-12                                                                                                                                                                      
which he bought recently from one of Delorean's lawyers.  Rich's link is:-                                                                                                                                                                      
http://www.AmericanCustomEng.com/                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: FW: Fan clutch question                                                                                                                                                                                                      
Date: 13-Aug-99 13:52:53 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Sounds like you are talking about the "Fan Fail" light.                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Your fan relays have not been updated.  You can find the fix in the back                                                                                                                                                                        
issues, or buy yourself a FanZilla from PJ Grady.                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
"Hart, Paul" wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> To whom it may concern, I would like to know more about the red dash light                                                                                                                                                                    
> that is "flashing"  - fan clutch error.  I start my car weekly and drive it                                                                                                                                                                   
> once a fortnight.  This last drive I used the A/C and it would come on                                                                                                                                                                        
> intermitantly.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> I am not a mechanic, can the clutch issue be repaired by Volvo - any                                                                                                                                                                          
> estimate on cost ??                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Ps. I also need repair suggestions for an inoperative window (the motor                                                                                                                                                                       
> seems good -could the arm be broken)  I hear they were plastic.                                                                                                                                                                               
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] DMC the rights???                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Date: 13-Aug-99 12:46:16 -0600                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I am searching for the answer to who if anyone owns the DMC rights/copyright                                                                                                                                                                    
etc.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
As far as I know Stephen Wynne owns the name, but as far as I can tell the                                                                                                                                                                      
rest is oblivion.                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Lotus deny the existence of at least one prototype that resides on-site.                                                                                                                                                                        
They cannot sell it because no one can claim ownership.  The link for this                                                                                                                                                                      
site is:-                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk/newsletter.htm                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I would like to know if producing any stock Delorean scaled models (not                                                                                                                                                                         
kits) would be causing any kind of violation.  Universal own rights to                                                                                                                                                                          
anything BTTF (Back To The Future) related so as long as the scaled model                                                                                                                                                                       
cars are totally 100% original factory cars with the lourves etc there                                                                                                                                                                          
should not be any problem if no one owns the rights.                                                                                                                                                                                            
I have tried to contact Lee Seiler to find out what he came across regarding                                                                                                                                                                    
this subject when trying to sell his kits, but he seems too busy to reply,                                                                                                                                                                      
so can anyone help with this matter?                                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
On one last note I spoke to Martin (the UK site owner) for the first time                                                                                                                                                                       
night.  A knowledgeable chap, I learnt quite a bit.  Thanks for the advice!                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
regards                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Christopher M. Hawes                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
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Subject: [DML] Re: gear shift boot                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Date: 13-Aug-99 12:44:09 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Another repair option that has been quite successful for me:  make the                                                                                                                                                                          
boot-frame of Polycarbonate (a virtually unbreakable plastic). It is clear,                                                                                                                                                                     
but unseen under the leather boot. Use the orig. part as patern.  Amazing                                                                                                                                                                       
what a little ingeniuity can produce!!    Drive Stainless.      Robert   VIN                                                                                                                                                                    
6924                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
>From: "Brad Fudge" <bfudge@sprynet.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                        
>Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
>To: <dmcnews@egroups.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
>Subject: [DML] gear shift boot                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
>Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 16:52:25 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                           
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>Just got my car back from the shop.  The gear shift boot now moves forward                                                                                                                                                                     
>and backward when I shift into the respective gears. When the boot moves                                                                                                                                                                       
>forward it leaves a gap at the point where the boot base normally covered                                                                                                                                                                      
>the console.  Does anyone know what would cause the boot to move and how I                                                                                                                                                                     
>can fix the problem?  The boot has never moved before!  Thanks.                                                                                                                                                                                
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
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Subject: [DML] Re: FW: Fan clutch question                                                                                                                                                                                                      
Date: 13-Aug-99 16:11:20 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
The light you're referring to is the "cooling fan fail" light.  It has                                                                                                                                                                          
nothing to do with the A/C clutch.  When the cooling fans that sit behind the                                                                                                                                                                   
radiator cycle on and off, the cooling fan fail light will illuminate for a                                                                                                                                                                     
few seconds.  If it stays on continually, you have a problem and need to                                                                                                                                                                        
watch your temperature gauge very carefully.                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Brian                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
VIN 1597                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: DMCJOE@SMTP (DMC Joe) {DMCJOE@att.net}                                                                                                                                                                                                    
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Subject: [DML] Re: FW: Fan clutch question                                                                                                                                                                                                      
Date: 13-Aug-99 16:55:08 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Paul,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
It sounds as if your DeLorean still has the factory installed Fan Fail                                                                                                                                                                          
module. The normal operation of this cooling fan control device is to turn                                                                                                                                                                      
on the Fan Fail lamp for 1 second whenever the cooling fans begin                                                                                                                                                                               
operation.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
When any of the three AC settings are selected the fans will turn on                                                                                                                                                                            
whenever the compressor cycles. This normally takes place about every 7 to                                                                                                                                                                      
10 seconds.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
Therefor the answer to your question is that it is normal for the Fan Fail                                                                                                                                                                      
light to flash intermittently whenever the AC is switched on.                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
If the lamp flashes with the AC switched off you have another problem that                                                                                                                                                                      
may be related to what follows:                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Remove the electrical compartment cover located behind the passenger seat                                                                                                                                                                       
under the parcel shelf carpet and check to see if you have a "blue" module                                                                                                                                                                      
among the other modules. It is located closest to the passenger side of the                                                                                                                                                                     
car.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
If its there, you need to get rid of it !!!                                                                                                                                                                                                     
This item is responsible for stranding many DeLorean owners causing the                                                                                                                                                                         
engine to overheat and sometimes, in extreme cases, causing permanent                                                                                                                                                                           
engine damage. You can do a temporary fix with a by-pass link kit or better                                                                                                                                                                     
yet purchase the Fanzilla.                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
An inoperative window requires the replacement of the factory unit with a                                                                                                                                                                       
very high quality replacement available from DeLorean Part suppliers.                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
If you need more details feel free to contact us directly.                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>                                                                                                                                                                                                  
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> From: Hart, Paul <Paul.Hart@Schwab.COM>                                                                                                                                                                                                       
> To: 'DMCnews' <dmcnews@egroups.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                           
> Subject: [DML] FW: Fan clutch question                                                                                                                                                                                                        
> Date: Friday, August 13, 1999 11:38 AM                                                                                                                                                                                                        
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> To whom it may concern, I would like to know more about the red dash                                                                                                                                                                          
light                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
> that is "flashing"  - fan clutch error.  I start my car weekly and drive                                                                                                                                                                      
it                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
> once a fortnight.  This last drive I used the A/C and it would come on                                                                                                                                                                        
> intermitantly.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> I am not a mechanic, can the clutch issue be repaired by Volvo - any                                                                                                                                                                          
> estimate on cost ??                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Ps. I also need repair suggestions for an inoperative window (the motor                                                                                                                                                                       
> seems good -could the arm be broken)  I hear they were plastic.                                                                                                                                                                               
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Sincerely                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> 				Paul C. Hart                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
> 				SITE Testing - Charles Schwab & Co., Inc.                                                                                                                                                                                                 
> 				Email:        paul.hart@schwab.com                                                                                                                                                                                                        
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Subject: [DML] Re: accessories                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Date: 13-Aug-99 15:11:05 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
	                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I am looking for a front spoiler for my D.  In old Delorean World's they                                                                                                                                                                        
were advertised quite a bit.  It added about 2.5 inches                                                                                                                                                                                         
to the bottom of the spoiler and secured with 12 screws.  They retailed for                                                                                                                                                                     
about 150 bucks.  I know there is a company                                                                                                                                                                                                     
that currently makes side skirts and the rear valance but not the front                                                                                                                                                                         
one.  Anyone know where I can find one?  Also, anybody have                                                                                                                                                                                     
experience with the twin turbo system currently available by Eleanor (cant                                                                                                                                                                      
remember her last name)?  They advertise in                                                                                                                                                                                                     
Delorean World.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: Posters                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
Date: 13-Aug-99 17:11:44 -0600                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Oh the subject of posters, I have a picture of the early "Presenting..."                                                                                                                                                                        
poster that inspired me to make an updated version last month (I like to                                                                                                                                                                        
play with PhotoShop in my spare time).  I have recreated the poster (just at                                                                                                                                                                    
an 18X24 size) and included newer articles.  Instead of Presenting...  the                                                                                                                                                                      
new title is "It's Still Americas Most Talked About Car."    If anyone from                                                                                                                                                                     
the list is interested in a copy, let me know (I will e-mail you a smaller                                                                                                                                                                      
copy)  and I can get copies made (I think about $33 to print on an HP                                                                                                                                                                           
Plotter) and will sell for that + shipping.    I also have another one (same                                                                                                                                                                    
size) that I don't even want to start trying  to explain (e-mail for                                                                                                                                                                            
details).                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Let me know.  Once I get my website back up I am planning on trying them out                                                                                                                                                                    
on e-bay (probably $50 to start).                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I am always playing with graphics, so if anyone has any suggestions for cool                                                                                                                                                                    
DMC stuff, let me know and I will see what I can do.                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Michael Babb                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
michael.babb@mindspring.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
vin 3472                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
and now a 1992 SVX                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: FW: Fan clutch question                                                                                                                                                                                                      
Date: 13-Aug-99 19:35:27 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Hhhmmmm.... My cooling fan fail light never illuminates... is it really                                                                                                                                                                         
supposed to?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
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From: LovDMC12@aol.com <LovDMC12@aol.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                       
To: dmcnews@egroups.com <dmcnews@egroups.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                   
Date: Friday, August 13, 1999 4:27 PM                                                                                                                                                                                                           
Subject: [DML] Re: FW: Fan clutch question                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
>The light you're referring to is the "cooling fan fail" light.  It has                                                                                                                                                                         
>nothing to do with the A/C clutch.  When the cooling fans that sit behind                                                                                                                                                                      
the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
>radiator cycle on and off, the cooling fan fail light will illuminate for a                                                                                                                                                                    
>few seconds.  If it stays on continually, you have a problem and need to                                                                                                                                                                       
>watch your temperature gauge very carefully.                                                                                                                                                                                                   
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
>Brian                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
>VIN 1597                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
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Subject: [DML] antenna                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Date: 13-Aug-99 20:31:25 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
What goes up must come down ! Unless its my antenna.  Any thoughts.                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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I heard a noisey "clunking" coming from the front of my D when I hit big bumps. Well, it seems that the shock decided that it didn't want to be attatched to the top part of the suspension anymore, where it's supposed to be. I noiced that th
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I heard a noisey &quot;clunking&quot; coming                                                                                                                                                                    
from the front of my D when I hit big bumps. Well, it seems that the shock                                                                                                                                                                      
decided that it didn't want to be attatched to the top part of the suspension                                                                                                                                                                   
anymore, where it's supposed to be. I noiced that the other side had some sort                                                                                                                                                                  
of bushing with a curved washer holding it in place. My question is, how big of                                                                                                                                                                 
a problem do I have here? Is that washer thing attatched to the suspension? Or                                                                                                                                                                  
is it just held in place by the shock? Do I need to replace my shock, or can I                                                                                                                                                                  
just replace the curved washer and a new rubber bushing? How bad actually is                                                                                                                                                                    
this? Help please? </FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                                                
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                             
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>---Dan</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                             
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From: BMIMS@SMTP (Bobby D. Mims) {bmims@ut-texas.com}                                                                                                                                                                                           
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Subject: [DML] Re: Fascia paint                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
Date: 13-Aug-99 23:09:38 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Bill,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
 I appreciate your information.  Do you have the paint code?  My D needs                                                                                                                                                                        
both  ends repainted.                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Thanks,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Bobby Mims                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
Tyler, Texas                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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To: <dmcnews@egroups.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 10:51 PM                                                                                                                                                                                                        
Subject: [DML] Re: Fascia paint                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> I had my rear fascia painted recently and paid $200.00 for a professional                                                                                                                                                                     
> job.  The body shop that I used specializes in import cars and high-end                                                                                                                                                                       
> autos.  They quoted me the same price for the front fascia also.  I had                                                                                                                                                                       
the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
> rear done first because it desperately needed a refinishing.  I am happy                                                                                                                                                                      
with                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
> the result and if anyone in the Chicago area wants to see it, please                                                                                                                                                                          
contact                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
> me.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
> Bill                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
> VIN# 2157                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
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Subject: [DML] Re: FW: Fan clutch question                                                                                                                                                                                                      
Date: 14-Aug-99 0:39:08 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Gerald,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Most DeLorean's have a factory issued modification that bypasses the "fan                                                                                                                                                                       
fail" warning lamp function. We highly recommend the Fanzilla which vastly                                                                                                                                                                      
improves the operation and reliability of the cooling fan circuit.                                                                                                                                                                              
Installation of this high tech unit also re activates the "fan fail"                                                                                                                                                                            
warning lamp.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>                                                                                                                                                                                                  
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> From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1@eclipse.net>                                                                                                                                                                                                     
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
> Subject: [DML] Re: FW: Fan clutch question                                                                                                                                                                                                    
> Date: Friday, August 13, 1999 7:35 PM                                                                                                                                                                                                         
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Hhhmmmm.... My cooling fan fail light never illuminates... is it really                                                                                                                                                                       
> supposed to?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] DeLorean Movie Mistakes                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Date: 13-Aug-99 23:49:12 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Today while on the internet, a friend referred me to the following page,                                                                                                                                                                        
which lists several of the mistakes made in the most popular and only movie                                                                                                                                                                     
triology to feature the DeLorean Sports Car, the Back to the Future Trilogy.                                                                                                                                                                    
Here is the URL                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
http://www.movie-mistakes.com/specifics/backfutr.htm                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: Broken front shock...                                                                                                                                                                                                        
Date: 14-Aug-99 9:36:09 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I had a front shock come lose at the top last year, the top washer had split and I lost the bushing.  I had replaced the shocks a couple of years before that.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
If the shock is  in good condition, get a new set of bushings and nuts and refasten it.  I found some spare parts at a local tire/shock store that would fit until I was able to get the correct parts from a DeLorean Parts house.  I have had 
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  From: Gerald Deutsch                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
  To: dmcnews@egroups.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
  Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 8:51 PM                                                                                                                                                                                                         
  Subject: [DML] Broken front shock...                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
  I heard a noisey "clunking" coming from the front of my D when I hit big bumps. Well, it seems that the shock decided that it didn't want to be attatched to the top part of the suspension anymore, where it's supposed to be. I noiced that 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I had a front shock come lose at the top last year, the top                                                                                                                                                                   
washer had split and I lost the bushing.&nbsp; I had replaced the shocks a                                                                                                                                                                      
couple of years before that.</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                                       
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<DIV><FONT size=2>If the shock is&nbsp; in good condition, get a new set of                                                                                                                                                                     
bushings and nuts and refasten it.&nbsp; I found some spare parts at a local                                                                                                                                                                    
tire/shock store that would fit until I was able to get the correct parts from a                                                                                                                                                                
DeLorean Parts house.&nbsp; I have had no problems since.</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                          
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  <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I heard a noisey "clunking" coming from the                                                                                                                                                                   
  front of my D when I hit big bumps. Well, it seems that the shock decided that                                                                                                                                                                
  it didn't want to be attatched to the top part of the suspension anymore,                                                                                                                                                                     
  where it's supposed to be. I noiced that the other side had some sort of                                                                                                                                                                      
  bushing with a curved washer holding it in place. My question is, how big of a                                                                                                                                                                
  problem do I have here? Is that washer thing attatched to the suspension? Or                                                                                                                                                                  
  is it just held in place by the shock? Do I need to replace my shock, or can I                                                                                                                                                                
  just replace the curved washer and a new rubber bushing? How bad actually is                                                                                                                                                                  
  this? Help please? </FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                                              
  <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                           
  <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>---Dan</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                           
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Subject: [DML] Re: WG: nearly new deloreans                                                                                                                                                                                                     
Date: 14-Aug-99 12:57:07 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Delorean One sells cars that have been totally refurbished.  I would                                                                                                                                                                            
consider one of there cars to be better than a new D because of all the work                                                                                                                                                                    
they do on them to get the cars to new condition.                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
You will also pay a very big price.  I believe they sell their new cars for                                                                                                                                                                     
something like $40k right now and the price goes up every year.                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
If you want a car you can drive with confidence the are the way to go.  They                                                                                                                                                                    
are probably the only place you can buy a D and drive it with a warantee.                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: antenna                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
Date: 14-Aug-99 12:44:55 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
One time, I accidentaly turned on the radio while I still had the car                                                                                                                                                                           
cover on.  (never do this).  The antenna tried to go up, but got caught                                                                                                                                                                         
on the cover.  It then would go up, but not down anymore (the lowest it                                                                                                                                                                         
would go was about a foot extended).  Removing the antenna motor is                                                                                                                                                                             
pretty easy, email me for details.  After opening up the motor unit, I                                                                                                                                                                          
found the flexable cable that pushes that mast upwards had broken.                                                                                                                                                                              
Luckily, I had a spare mast, which I put into the motor unit, and since                                                                                                                                                                         
then it has been working perfectly.  You're problem may be electrical or                                                                                                                                                                        
mechanical.  It is probably mechanical if you hear the motor running,                                                                                                                                                                           
but see no movement in the mast.  If you never hear the motor running,                                                                                                                                                                          
try looking at the electrical side of things.  Good luck                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: FW: Fan clutch question                                                                                                                                                                                                      
Date: 14-Aug-99 16:00:11 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Your DMC probably has the bypass set up.  I recently installed this in my                                                                                                                                                                       
car.  If this procedure has been performed, the cooling fan fail light will                                                                                                                                                                     
not illuminate.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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VIN 1597                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Re: A/C Ducts                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
Date: 14-Aug-99 18:06:17 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Could someone please explain to me how to get the duct removed from above the                                                                                                                                                                   
radio without destroying it?  Mine seems to be firmly in place and those                                                                                                                                                                        
plastic clips have me concerned about using excessive force.                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Tanks...but no tanks!                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Date: 14-Aug-99 18:19:36 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Contaminated Gas??                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I just bought a Delorean in May....the more I restore it the more I want to throttle the previous owner! (but that's another post).                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Today's problem.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Ever since I've gotten it - the car runs really rough when you accelerate.  It also takes more than a few tries to get started then runs rough and seems to smooth out a bit a few minutes later...but NEVER runs like it should.  The car did s
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
The car improved slightly when we used a fuel injector cleaner in the gas...All I've done since I've bought it is throw half a tank of premium in it and the injector cleaner.  It's never been driven more than a few miles since I've brought 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Today I got daring and decided to tackle the gas tank.                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I opened up the tank and everything looked fine.  The fuel pump cover seal is all warped (needs replacing) but everything else looked fine (fuel pump, hoses, baffle, etc..).  I siphoned out the gas.  The gas was a really dark apple juice co
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Any thoughts on what I should do now?                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Need some help from someone who's been there done that.                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Thanks                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
mike@mrcopies.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
VIN#17089                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
windsor, ontario canada                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Contaminated Gas??</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                 
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                             
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I just bought a Delorean in May....the more I                                                                                                                                                                   
restore it the more I want to throttle the previous owner! (but that's another                                                                                                                                                                  
post).</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                             
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Today's problem.</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                   
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                             
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Ever since I've gotten it - the car runs really                                                                                                                                                                 
rough when you accelerate.&nbsp; It also takes more than a few tries to get                                                                                                                                                                     
started then runs rough and seems to smooth out a bit a few minutes later...but                                                                                                                                                                 
NEVER runs like it should.&nbsp; The car did sit for a looong time prior to me                                                                                                                                                                  
buying it. (my guess is anywhere from 6 months to 2 years)</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                         
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                             
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>The car improved slightly when we used a fuel                                                                                                                                                                   
injector cleaner in the gas...All I've done since I've bought it is throw half a                                                                                                                                                                
tank of premium in it and the injector cleaner.&nbsp; It's never been driven                                                                                                                                                                    
more than a few miles since I've brought it home.</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                  
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                             
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                             
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Today I got daring and decided to tackle the gas                                                                                                                                                                
tank.</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                             
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I opened up the tank and everything looked                                                                                                                                                                      
fine.&nbsp; The fuel pump cover seal is all warped (needs replacing) but                                                                                                                                                                        
everything else looked fine (fuel pump, hoses, baffle, etc..).&nbsp; I siphoned                                                                                                                                                                 
out the gas.&nbsp; The gas was a really dark apple juice color...didn't notice                                                                                                                                                                  
any sludgey deposits...but not sure what to look for.&nbsp; Especially not sure                                                                                                                                                                 
what to look for on the baffle.</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                                    
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                             
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Any thoughts on what I should do now?                                                                                                                                                                           
</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                             
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Need some help from someone who's been there                                                                                                                                                                    
done that.</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                             
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                             
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><A                                                                                                                                                                                                              
href="mailto:mike@mrcopies.com">mike@mrcopies.com</A></FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                              
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>VIN#17089</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                          
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>windsor, ontario canada</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                            
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>(right next to Detroit Michigan)</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                   
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Subject: [DML] Gas Mileage                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
Date: 14-Aug-99 21:27:33 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Hey guys. I was just wondering what the Gas Mileage was on a Delorean. Does                                                                                                                                                                     
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Subject: [DML] Re: Tanks...but no tanks!                                                                                                                                                                                                        
Date: 14-Aug-99 22:43:01 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Maybe you should try to replace your filters. (i.e fuel, etc.) That might                                                                                                                                                                       
help clean it up a little better.                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Dave L.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Providence, RI                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
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