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I would say you don't need a alternator.
you should consider getting a (cap)
go to your local stereo shop and tell them you need a high output cap
for your amp buy getting this item it will take the the strain off
your alternator.... just to be on the safe side get a alternator
tester that can read how many amps the car pulls when all components are
turned on with the car running at a idle. ((((((note)))))(play
your stereo while test is being done radio should be on and vol should
be turned up at lest half way. this will make your amplifier pull its
max amps)))... next step is to compare what the car needs to run
all components ( the test) then look at the alternator specs and see
how many amps that the alt can put out max. for instance car
needs ----- 80 amps total drain alternator out put ---- 85 amps
this would work
now if your car needs
car needs --- 80 amps
and the alt is only putting out 75 amps
then yes you need a bigger alternator
in short if the alt output is grater than the cars needs you will just
need a cap they run 80$ to 250.$ if you need a alt i would still
suggest putting a cap on your amp it will take the strain off the
alternator.
just a note when doing the alternator test for amperage the
reading will jump up & down on your meter aprox.. 5 to 15 amps do to
your radio amp. is on and playing music.
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I think I need to replace my alternator. I need more power to run the =
amp for my stereo. I keep seeing the voltage meter on the car drop when =
the lights are on and I'm idling. Do I need to get a higher output =
alternator? If I do, which one should I get? What fits? What amperage =
should I replace it with? Can someone help me please? ---Dan
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Subject: [DML] Re: altenator replacement...
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Dan,
I had been contemplating for the last 3 years to change my original Motorola
alternator. In the summer with the A/C, the headlights and the wipers on
while in creeping in traffic, the DeLorean electric's system just doesn't cut
it. I had changed the battery to an Optima battery hoping that will help.
It did help -- very little.
Last Friday, I had Rob at PJ Grady change my unit to a new digital by Delco
with 105 amp output. It is the same size of the original unit. It use the
same bracket and a little change int the wiring.
It was not cheap, but it is worth the money, every penny of it.
It gives the DeLorean a new feel. Now, there is correct and decent
electrical power when everything is turn on. No more dimming, especially
while creeping in the slow street and highway traffic. It now has a little
more life in the ignition's electrical system -- slightly more pep.
I am glad I made the change! I hope this personal info helps.
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r-12 is priced at 20.00$ per 6 oz. can here in ky
it would take 2 and a half pounds to fill your system if its total empty
your next problem is that you have to be certified to buy R-12 because
if it is not properly handled it could be dangerous to you and to the
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i don't know about a real deal exhaust hose but i can give you a good
ideal to a home made job go to your local rv/ camper dealer/supplier
and ask them for a sewage drain hose for campers they cost about 20.00$
and would work the same. most hoses are about 2 and a half inches in
diameter and come in various lengths the diameter of the hoses used
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Hi,
This is a generic need, but since it's for my D, I figured I would post it
here. I'm looking for the exhaust hoses mechanics use to put on the exhaust
pipes to run the fumes out of their shop. I've looked many places & have
asked everyone I can think of (including my mechanic) and have had no luck.
If anyone knows of a supplier, please post it.
Thanks!!!
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Subject: [DML] Re: New Owner
Date: 1-Jul-99 0:59:29 -0400
Ryan,
Your steering wheel shakiness which we call shimmy is due to warped front
brake rotors. This is common with the original rotors, it is annoying but
not dangerous. Have the rotors re-surfaced and the shimmy will disappear.
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> From: Ryan McCaffrey <ryanjm@home.com>
> To: DeLorean Mailing List <dmcnews@egroups.com>
> Subject: [DML] New Owner
> Date: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 4:12 AM
> the steering wheel shook
> considerably when I applied the brakes; the level of shakiness in direct
> proportion to the amount of pressure applied to the brake. I hope it's
> nothing more than a slight brake problem.
>
> I look forward to getting together with the other local owners soon, and
> meeting the rest of you sometime down the road (literally).
>
> Ryan McCaffrey
> VIN# 10014
> Mesa, Arizona
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Subject: [DML] Re: tranny fluid
Date: 1-Jul-99 1:00:39 -0400
Any SAE 75 or 80W name brand will due. We do not suggest replacing the oil
unless it is absolute necessary. If you do change the oil be prepared to
change all the seals.
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> From: delorean502@excite.com
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> Subject: [DML] tranny fluid
> Date: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 1:10 AM
>
> what is the best kind of manual tranny fluid that i should use?
>
> thanks
>
> erik
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Subject: [DML] Re: Possible Door Lock Remedy??
Date: 1-Jul-99 1:01:26 -0400
Christopher,
This is common knowledge with all DeLoreans. Disconnect the lock module to
prevent damage to the lock solenoids, battery draining, and doors locking
by themselves.
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> From: Christopher Mack <cjmack@jps.net>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Possible Door Lock Remedy??
> Date: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 12:07 AM
>
>
> Today I met with a DeLorean owner in San Diego, CA and he told me that he
> had disconnected the fuse (or relay I can't remember which) responsible
for
> the electric door locking mechanism. The owner did this because he
"Didn't
> want to get locked in his car like Johnny Carson". The doors were able
to
> be locked and unlocked manually using the levers on each door while the
> driver was inside the car.. When exiting the car, the key would have to
be
> used to lock the doors individually. Does this seem like a good
solution
> to prevent one from getting locked in their car (without spending the
money
> on new solenoids and a lockzilla) Has anyone else tried this? Please
email
> me and let me know
>
> Thanks
> Christopher Mack
> cjmack@jps.net
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Subject: [DML] Re: small tranny leak
Date: 1-Jul-99 1:03:15 -0400
erik,
Where is the source of the leak. The transmissions rarely leak. Most common
leaks around the trans are the rear seal, clutch slave cylinder, brake
light switch, and the axle seals.
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> From: delorean502@excite.com
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] small tranny leak
> Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 10:55 PM
>
> my tranny leaks a little, on average 5-6 drops, after i drive it. if it
is just sitting there for a day or so, it wont drip. is there some kind of
sealent that i can put on it to stop the leaks? i would hate to have to
rip the engine out over something like this. i can just refill the tranny
fluid every 2 weeks or so, but thats a pain. BTW: i love this DML!
>
> erik geerdink
> VIN #4512
> PLATE: EGGS D (my nickname is "egg")
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Date: 1-Jul-99 1:04:47 -0400
$75 to $85
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> Subject: [DML] A/C Recharge Cost?
> Date: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 7:41 PM
>
> Anyone out there recently had a recharge with R-12? What does it cost
these days?
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Subject: [DML] Re: Killing the oil thread too
Date: 1-Jul-99 1:04:13 -0400
yugoman,
This special wrench is available from most of the DeLorean parts suppliers.
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> From: yugoman <mdrig@email.msn.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: Killing the oil thread too
> Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 10:39 PM
>
> Guess this is my fault for asking for an opinion or experience. I also
want
> to preserve my D as much as possible on a finite budget, (still hoping
for
> that 10-car climate-controlled garage one day<G>). I appreciate
everyone's
> opinions that were shared both on-list and off. Now I guess I need to
find
> one of those special tools for the drain plug. Anyone have one for sale?
Was
> this part of the tool kits that came with the cars? Mine didn't have one
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Date: 1-Jul-99 1:05:15 -0400
Dan,
What kind of alternator is on the car now?
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Subject: [DML] altenator replacement...
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 9:49 PM
I think I need to replace my alternator. I need more power to run the amp
for my stereo. I keep seeing the voltage meter on the car drop when the
lights are on and I'm idling. Do I need to get a higher output alternator?
If I do, which one should I get? What fits? What amperage should I replace
it with? Can someone help me please? ---Dan
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Subject: [DML] Re: New Owner
Date: 30-Jun-99 23:40:06 -0700
<snip>
> ... the steering wheel shook considerably when I applied
> the brakes; the level of shakiness in direct proportion
> to the amount of pressure applied to the brake.
<snip>
Ryan,
Welcome to the World of DeLorean Ownership!
While what you describe could be caused by loose/worn front
suspension components (ball joints, tie rod ends, etc.) it
is usually due to a warped front disk rotor. Good news:
they can be turned. Bad news: there is not a lot of meat
on the rotor and by the time they have been turned true,
they are often under the safe thickness and you have to
replace it/them. Also, after turning the rotors, they are
more prone to warping since they are thinner.
Related problem: After you fix the above, the car may
develop a shimmy at high (freeway) speed. This is a front
wheel balance problem caused by: (1) different amounts of
metal being removed from one part of the rotor than from
another; (2) Different weight distribution in the
replacement rotor; or (3) the front tire(s) not being
re-mounted in exactly the same position. The best solution
is to locate a tire shop that can spin balance the tires ON
THE CAR. This procedure is not commonly used (except on race
cars) but is much superior to either static (bubble type)
balancing or 'computer spin balancing' since it balances the
entire rotating mass (hubs, rotors, wheels, and tires).
Hank Breer
VIN 1141
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On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Gerald Deutsch wrote:
> I think I need to replace my alternator. I need more power to run the
Depending on the model year of the car, you probably do. The early
alternators are inadequate to operate all the accessories on the car. The
later ones are adequate, but not by much.
Unfortunately, replacement alternators that fit properly are hard to come
by these days. As far as I know all the later-model original alternators
are used up.
There is a GM alternator that supposedly works also, but I don't know the
specifics, nor whether it itself is still available.
My suggestion would be to take your existing alternator to one of those
shops that makes the giant stereos for low riders, and have them rewind
it. They can make just about any alternator put out as much power as you
want. Then, you don't have to worry about fitting mounting brackets,
belts, etc. that you would with a replacement.
For a more or less stock DMC-12, 100 amps should be more than enough. If
you've got a whopper stereo, then, you should know how much you need for
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Subject: [DML] Re:Killing the oil..
Date: 1-Jul-99 10:54:14 +0200
I bought the "special" tool for the drain plug in 1992 at DeLorean One.
It is a quite simple made tool but it works until today. When I was make
my first oil change the whole oil sprayed against the frame. To prevent
this dirt I cut a plastic oil can so I can place it between Frame and
oil sump.
Have fun with that
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Subject: [DML] Key blanks
Date: 1-Jul-99 7:01:51 -0400
I had an ignition key made for my '82 Delorean from a Volvo blank at a local
locksmith a few years back.
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Subject: [DML] Shaking when braking
Date: 1-Jul-99 7:11:32 -0400
I had this same problem. The theory was that the front rotors were warped
from over tightening the lug nuts (air tools). The correct torque to hand
tighten is 60 ft/lbs. Had the rotors machined or replaced (can't remember
which) and the problem went away. Until, the front tires were replaced by an
ex-wife and the lugs over tightened again.
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Subject: [DML] Drain plug tool
Date: 1-Jul-99 7:20:51 -0400
I made a drain plug tool by carefully grinding down the square drive of a
3/8" ratchet. Works great, I've used it for years. Of course, that ratchet
can no longer be used for sockets.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Insurance anyone?
Date: 1-Jul-99 7:31:52 -0400
Hagerty Classic Auto Insurance costs me $300 per year here in rural Michigan.
This is with a declared replacement value (the ONLY way to go with collector
vehicles) of $18,000. There is a mileage limit of 2,500 miles per year.
This company has been very good to deal with. They did require some
documentation (over what you would expect for normal car insurance) i.e.,
photos of the Delorean, interior, exterior, etc.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Air Conditioning
Date: 1-Jul-99 7:35:18 -0500
Darren - The fan fail light coming on indicates that the
front radiator cooling fans are not coming on when the
A/C compressor turns on (that's the clicking noise). Check
the fuses/breakers related to the fan circuit.
The headlamp problem is likely to be the connector
at the switch if your technicians were working in that
area.
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Iznodmad@aol.com on 06/29/99 10:07:33 PM
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Subject: [DML] Re: Air Conditioning
Dear DML,
I had my A/C worked on in May. I have not been able to use the car
since and operated the A/C only when driving it home from the shop where it
was worked on. While testing it, the "Cooling Fan Fail" light would come on
every 5-7 seconds accompanied with a clicking noise. However the air was
very cold coming out the vents. Is this a sign of low freon as DMC Joe says?
I had asked the technicians if the freon level was okay and they said yes.
Have I been fooled? They also managed to mess up my headlights/parking
lights, they don't work anymore; except for the brights when I pull back on
the lever. Ideas for that one?
Thanks,
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Subject: [DML] Re: Killing the oil thread too
Date: 1-Jul-99 7:38:02 -0500
This is about the easiest tool in the world to make next to the
hammer. Just take a piece of 6mm (I think it's 6mm) bar stock
and bend it at a right angle about 1" from the end.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Killing the oil thread too
Guess this is my fault for asking for an opinion or experience. I also want
to preserve my D as much as possible on a finite budget, (still hoping for
that 10-car climate-controlled garage one day<G>). I appreciate everyone's
opinions that were shared both on-list and off. Now I guess I need to find
one of those special tools for the drain plug. Anyone have one for sale? Was
this part of the tool kits that came with the cars? Mine didn't have one :^(
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Subject: [DML] Re: Brown Stains on A Grey Dash
Date: 1-Jul-99 7:40:53 -0500
The short answer is you can't clean the stains. They
are caused by the adhesive used to bond the vinyl to
the dashboard. You have 3 options - replace the
dash (expensive), have the dash recovered (almost
as expensive), or have the dash dyed (not permanent).
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Subject: [DML] Re: Brown Stains on A Grey Dash
mrcopies@jet2.net writes:
<< Quick question...
I have some brown stains on my grey dash. It is normally covered by a
dashmat and looks fine but was wondering if anyone has ever been able to get
these stains out. The rest of the dash is fine and looks great... no cracks
etc..
Thanks
>>
I too was wondering about these stains. I have a couple which are very
small. I didnt try to remove them because of how small they are and because
I didnt want to damage the vinyl with the wrong chemical. If anyone has had
a similar problem and found a solution I too would like to hear about it
Gary W. Gore
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DeLorean Mid Atlantic
VIN 3360
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Subject: [DML] Re: A/C Dryer...
Date: 1-Jul-99 8:24:07 -0500
With regards Joe's comment: The accumulator/dryer crosses over to an 84
Corvette post Vin 3468 GM # 1131411. (He also included comments that he does
not know if this is true)
It is my understanding that there are two versions of the dryer used and
that there are two hose lengths/shapes. If this is so, the dryer mentioned
may not work on all cars. When I tried to find a cross for mine, I could
not match the shape of the tube on the dryer bottom. I have vehicle #897
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How powerful is the amp? You may need a 1/2 farad 16v capacitor
>I think I need to replace my alternator. I need more power to run the amp
>for my stereo. I keep seeing the voltage meter on the car drop when the
>lights are on and I'm idling. Do I need to get a higher output alternator?
>If I do, which one should I get? What fits? What amperage should I replace
>it with? Can someone help me please? ---Dan
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Date: 1-Jul-99 10:58:54 -0400
Ryan,
I had the same problem with my steering wheel and brakes. It turned out that
my rotors were warped. My mechanic was able to machine them and they've been
fine ever since.
Welcome to the wonderful world of DeLorean ownership!
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Subject: [DML] Re: Insurance anyone?
Date: 1-Jul-99 10:59:07 -0400
Daniel,
I don't know much about insurance companies in the UK, but here in the States
it is also difficult to find companies that will insure a D for less than
your first born. However, I have my D insured with Allstate and it is very
reasonable. I have full coverage on the car, too. State Farm also insures
D's, but I have no idea what their rates are like. I understand they're
usually competitive. I looked into classic insurance, but didn't like all of
the restrictions since I like to drive my car. Good luck in your search.
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Subject: [DML] DeLorean Motor Company - Holiday Hours
Date: 1-Jul-99 12:42:43 -0500
In observance of the Independence Day holiday, DeLorean Motor Company will
be closed on Monday, July 5th, 1999. We will have normal business hours of
8:00am to 5:30pm on Friday, July 2nd as well as when we return from the
holiday on Tuesday, July 6th.
Our online store, as usual, is open 24 hours a day with complete parts
search and ordering capabilities.
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Subject: [DML] Re: DML: Mid-Ohio Raceway (humorous ending)
Date: 1-Jul-99 14:13:57 -0400
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I have a question,
I keep hearing it argued back and forth but I'd rather hear it from
somone who knows...
> I didn't bring any of my DeLorean books today. For your information,
> young lady, this is a *British* car show!"
>
> - Mike Substelny
The car was designed by an American, (then re-designed by an Italian).
It was prototyped in the US, the main offices were in the US. the pres
was/is American born and resided durring the time of the car.
It was built in Ireland, then re-built at the "Quality Centers" in the
US to fix a multitude of errors. (some cars receiving over 100 hours in
re-work.) And it was built to be sold in the American market above all
others.
Let's look at this in another way, would you consider a Honda, Mazda, or
Subaru to be American cars? All three have plants in the US to build their
cars for domestic sale.
In the grand picture, the car was built in the 80's before the "content"
rules took effect. So is the car American, or is it Irish/British? And
once the statment is made, will everyone agree?
I've always considered the car a US car and not a Brit car.
-=mike=-
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Subject: [DML] update on flipped delorean
Date: 1-Jul-99 13:49:45 -0700
today while i was on a service call i drove by the body shop place in Grand Rapids Michigan and saw this delorean with a bunch of dust and sand over it. i stopped in to see what the deal was with that car and to see how much it would cost
Erik Geerdink
VIN 4512
PLATE: EGGS D
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Date: 1-Jul-99 15:25:39 -0700
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<01bec342.6fe6b10-@wh3-195.eclipse.net> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=1246
> I think I need to replace my alternator. I need more power to run the amp for my stereo. I keep seeing the voltage meter on the car drop when the lights are on and I'm idling. Do I need to get a higher output alternator? If I do, which on
>
You can get a 90 AMP Motorola alternator from DeLorean Motor Company at http://www.usadmc.com/
or 1-800-USA-DMC1
Part Number Name Cost
110101R ALTERNATOR,90 AMP MOTOROLA REB $295.00
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Date: 1-Jul-99 15:26:54 -0700
i just bought a pair of front shocks and was wondering if i could put them on myself. is there any special thing you have to do to them? my friend is a perfetional at putting shocks on cars and he is going to help me. is there any calibr
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Date: 1-Jul-99 15:28:29 -0700
is there anything special you have to do to install shocks on a delorean, or can a local MIDAS do it? i ordered shocks from DMC HOUSTON.
erik
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Depending on where you go, about $100 if you need 2lbs.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Insurance anyone?
Date: 1-Jul-99 19:18:19 -0500
Hey guys,
I've been on the DML for a while but this is my first posting.
Sometime in the near future I'm hoping to get a D. This is only if I can get
my mom and dad to back me up. I'm figuring that if I can get them to buy the
D for me then get a job then I could just devote all that money to insuring
it and maintenance. I am about too turn 17. My question is do you think that
I could afford one if all im spending money on would be insurance and
maintenance?
Thanks in advance!
Jerry Smith
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>Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 07:31:52 EDT
>
>Hagerty Classic Auto Insurance costs me $300 per year here in rural
>Michigan.
> This is with a declared replacement value (the ONLY way to go with
>collector
>vehicles) of $18,000. There is a mileage limit of 2,500 miles per year.
>This company has been very good to deal with. They did require some
>documentation (over what you would expect for normal car insurance) i.e.,
>photos of the Delorean, interior, exterior, etc.
>
>Burke
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Officially a #1 is a perfect, unblemished show car
>
>Okay guys, what's it gonna be? #1 or #6? I wanna be the first to say
>my D (for sale at $25K) should be at the top, or bottom, of someone's list,
># 1 or #6! Who cares which you prefer? Is there really an official list?
>Probably. Personally, I prefer the concours ratings of 100 points max.
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Subject: [DML] Re: installing shocks
Date: 1-Jul-99 20:23:01 -0400
erik,
Front shock absorber replacement is relatively easy and straight forward.
If you have a workshop manual, which you should, go to K:07:01 for exact
instructions.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: delorean502@excite.com
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] installing shocks
> Date: Thursday, July 01, 1999 6:26 PM
>
> i just bought a pair of front shocks and was wondering if i could put
them on myself. is there any special thing you have to do to them? my
friend is a perfetional at putting shocks on cars and he is going to help
me. is there any calibration you have to do? thanks
>
> erik geerdink
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Date: 1-Jul-99 21:02:49 -0400
Joe,
It's a Sankyo.
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Subject: [DML] Re: altenator replacement...
Dan,
What kind of alternator is on the car now?
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Subject: [DML] altenator replacement...
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 9:49 PM
I think I need to replace my alternator. I need more power to run the amp
for my stereo. I keep seeing the voltage meter on the car drop when the
lights are on and I'm idling. Do I need to get a higher output alternator?
If I do, which one should I get? What fits? What amperage should I replace
it with? Can someone help me please? ---Dan
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Subject: [DML] Re: Insurance anyone?
Date: 1-Jul-99 21:14:56 -0400
I had no problem getting insurance for my Delorean and the cost was a lot
less than you might think. I have full coverage, agreed value, and Zero
deductable for less than 275.00 per Year. The only real condition was that
I have another car for my daily driver and there is a mileage restriction (I
think 2500 miles per year). Anyone looking for insurance might call Hagerty
Insurance at 1-800-922-4050.
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Subject: [DML] re:Drain Plug Tool
Date: 1-Jul-99 20:22:06 -0500
Since no one else got this one -
If you want to be really cool the REAL drain plug tool is available from
Snap-on as part number PPM408. It is referred to as an 8mm pipe plug socket.
Even cooler, the transmission drain tool is PMP410, although not all that
necessary since the drain plug is male.
Delorean Motor Center sells the engine drain tool for the same price as
Snap-on, about $9.
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Subject: [DML] Re: altenator replacement...
Date: 1-Jul-99 21:40:32 -0500
Joe - looks like he has bigger problems than you thought - someone installed
an Air Conditioning compressor where his alternator is supposed to go! ;-).
No wonder there are problems.
> Joe,
>
> It's a Sankyo.
>
> ----------
> From: DMC Joe[SMTP:DMCJOE@att.net]>
> Dan,
> What kind of alternator is on the car now?
>
> DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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Mike,
How do you dye the dash? Any particular experience at this? Any particular products?
David Levey
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Subject: [DML] Re: Insurance anyone?
Date: 1-Jul-99 22:09:52 -0500
I've told ya before dude. Insurance is a killer for people our age.
Get a piece of %&$# car like me and wait till you've settled down to get
your D. Then you will be able to pay the insurance and give the car the
special care it needs.
Most kids our age don't make much more than $400 a month. I own a piece of
&%*% that is an 88 tracer and I am already in the poor house after i pay for
maintenance and insurance. You'll probably change your mind just like I
did, after you call the insurance company.
A D is an even older car, and many of the parts are more expensive than what
you would by for your ford.
Just my $0.02
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Search
Date: 1-Jul-99 22:10:09 -0500
Another place to look now is at www.hemmings.com. They now have a search
utility that brings up all of the current magazine ads. At the moment they
list 36 cars for sale.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Re:Keys
Date: 1-Jul-99 20:46:30 -0700
Gregory M Scalia wrote:
>
> There was recent email about sourcing replacement keys. I can't find it. I think it said that a peugeut was a suitable substitute blank?
>
> Thanx
>
> Greg
> An Ilco X-29 keyblank available at most locksmiths works fine on my Nov.'81.
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Subject: [DML] Re: A/C Dryer...
Date: 1-Jul-99 23:53:15 -0400
For the accumulator, I took mine to the local NAPA parts store and they matched it up.
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Subject: [DML] west michigan deloreans
Date: 1-Jul-99 20:53:48 -0700
i've talk to a couple west michigan delorean owners in the past 5 days of owning one myself. have any of you ever gotten together to have lunch and admire each others cars? i would like to organize something soon so we can get together.
erik geerdink
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Subject: [DML] CHEAP INSURANCE
Date: 1-Jul-99 20:59:44 -0700
i first got a quote on my insurance for a delorean a while back. they said $750 for 6 months. then my dad and i started to think...i put my P.O.S Mazda 323 as my primary car (BEST CAR IN THE WORLD..never breaks down and has 222,678 miles
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Subject: [DML] Re: altenator replacement...
Date: 2-Jul-99 0:00:22 -0400
Gerald,
The Sankyo is you AC compressor. The alternator is located on the right
rear (passenger side) of the engine compartment.
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> From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1@eclipse.net>
> To: 'dmcnews@egroups.com'
> Subject: [DML] Re: altenator replacement...
> Date: Thursday, July 01, 1999 9:02 PM
>
> Joe,
>
> It's a Sankyo.
>
> ----------
> From: DMC Joe[SMTP:DMCJOE@att.net]
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 1999 1:05 AM
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: altenator replacement...
>
> Dan,
> What kind of alternator is on the car now?
>
> DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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Subject: [DML] Re: alternator replacement...
Date: 2-Jul-99 0:06:58 -0400
Dave,
After working on DeLoreans for the past 15 years I never realized that the
AC compressor and alternator are interchangeable.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> Subject: [DML] Re: altenator replacement...
> Date: Thursday, July 01, 1999 10:40 PM
>
> Joe - looks like he has bigger problems than you thought - someone
installed
> an Air Conditioning compressor where his alternator is supposed to go!
;-).
> No wonder there are problems.
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Date: 2-Jul-99 0:06:11 -0400
DeLorean keys are compatible with Volvo keys.
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> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: Re:Keys
> Date: Thursday, July 01, 1999 11:46 PM
>
> Gregory M Scalia wrote:
> >
> > There was recent email about sourcing replacement keys. I can't find
it. I think it said that a peugeut was a suitable substitute blank?
> >
> > Thanx
> >
> > Greg
> > An Ilco X-29 keyblank available at most locksmiths works fine on my
Nov.'81.
> > Bob 6077-------------------------------------------------------
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Subject: [DML] Re: Cost of a decent D
Date: 2-Jul-99 0:10:56 -0400
In-reply-to: <>." <jdl
Speaking of mileage,most Ds lost function of thier odometers during the
first few thousnd miles. Many cars traveled many miles before they were
repaired,thus showing far fewer miles then the car actually had
traveled. Over the 15 years plus that I've been an owner I've seen lots
of very ragged out Ds showing very low recorded miles. I'm sure there
are plenty of them out there also that were very well maintained except
for fixing the odometer until the first owner was ready to sell. It's
very hard to tell much about a D by what the milege reads.
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In a message dated 7/1/99 11:21:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jdl@interax.com
writes:
<< I have to disagree with you. Most dealers have little idea what a
DeLorean
is worth. I bought my D from a dealer, and he sold it very reasonable
considering its low mileage, 6301, and excellent condition because he
thought parts were non-existent. >>
I just have one question...How on earth do you guys know what a dealer knows
about DeLoreans? You never know...maybe before a dealer would purchase the
DeLorean they would do research of their own so they can see how much they
can sell it for. You really don't know what a dealer knows until you ask
them. You guys are all just going on an assumption and I think that is wrong.
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Subject: [DML] Re: altenator replacement...
Date: 2-Jul-99 1:20:28 -0400
Dan,
Call Rob at PJ Grady. He sells a "new"digital Delco 105 amp alternator.
This Delco unit fits the original DeLorean's mount with no mechanical
modification or belt changes necessary. You do have to just change one wire
which you can do without any fanfare. This Delco unit resolved the
electrical problem that haunts the DeLorean.
Kayo Ong
#05508
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Subject: [DML] Re: New Owner
Date: 2-Jul-99 1:52:12 -0400
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Who does this type of ballancing? I've gone to several places here in
Indianapolis w/o luck. :(
-=mike=-
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> re-mounted in exactly the same position. The best solution
> is to locate a tire shop that can spin balance the tires ON
> THE CAR. This procedure is not commonly used (except on race
> cars) but is much superior to either static (bubble type)
> balancing or 'computer spin balancing' since it balances the
> entire rotating mass (hubs, rotors, wheels, and tires).
>
> Hank Breer
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Date: 2-Jul-99 2:10:27 -0400
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I've read good things about this insurance company on the Bricklin Mailing
list as well.
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> think 2500 miles per year). Anyone looking for insurance might call Hagerty
> Insurance at 1-800-922-4050.
>
> Robert
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Date: 2-Jul-99 2:15:37 -0400
Joe,
Whoops!!! I guess I had a brainfart... lol... I was on the phone when I checked... how embarrassing... I guess I just wasn't thinking straight... Ok, well, it's the 90 amp Motorola. Does that help?
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Joe - looks like he has bigger problems than you thought - someone installed
an Air Conditioning compressor where his alternator is supposed to go! ;-).
No wonder there are problems.
> Joe,
>
> It's a Sankyo.
>
> ----------
> From: DMC Joe[SMTP:DMCJOE@att.net]>
> Dan,
> What kind of alternator is on the car now?
>
> DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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Subject: [DML] DeLorean/Bricklin study
Date: 2-Jul-99 2:33:37 -0400
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I'm trying to dive deeper into the dreams of both John DeLorean and
Malcolm Bricklin. In my studies I've found a shoking number of
similarities between these two great car makers. I need more information
though. There is almost NOTHING writen about Malcolm, and the majority of
the stuff writen about John is slanted against him due to the drug issue.
If anyone is willing to help out, I'd be greatful! I don't see this
project turning into a novel, but the potential is there. For the
time-being, the material is slated to hit my web-page dedicated to the two
dreamers whos cars we love.
Please e-mail me privately
Thanks!
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Subject: [DML] Re: tranny fluid
Date: 2-Jul-99 3:37:41 -0400
Contrary to what some people told me (not someone on the list), there IS a
synthetic available. I used it in my car when I replaced the transmission.
It's made by Valvoline. You'd probably have to get it by special order
but any place that sells Valvoline shouldn't have a problem getting it.
What I have is 75/90 but that will work fine (any opinions on this?).
Anyway, with some of the problems people have had with transmissions not
going into gear (including my old transmission) when cold, I opted to pay
the extra money for synthetic oil. I haven't had any problems so far but it
is a new transmission after all...:)
--Rob Hook
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Subject: [DML] Re: tranny fluid
Any SAE 75 or 80W name brand will due. We do not suggest replacing the oil
unless it is absolute necessary. If you do change the oil be prepared to
change all the seals.
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> Subject: [DML] tranny fluid
> Date: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 1:10 AM
>
> what is the best kind of manual tranny fluid that i should use?
>
> thanks
>
> erik
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Subject: [DML] Re: Brown Stains on A Grey Dash
Date: 2-Jul-99 5:50:54 -0400
I would like to share a process in the removal of the brown spots stains with
GRAY INTERIORS, not black interiors. The brown stains will come off!
My DeLorean had spots on the door panels, on the windshield's post and the
dash board.
It is most likely from the factory. It is from dripped adhesive glue or
sloppy handling during the gluing process. The stains are the adhesive glue
that have aged and turned brown. It can be very removed if you have the
patience, a good hand and understanding the working characteristics of the
acetone solvent. Do not work on a humid or cold day. White streaks may
appear.
Wear glove to protect your hands and do this in a well ventilated area,
unless you what to get "high." Work in the shade with no sun shinning on the
area. The sun's heat will cause the acetone to dry too quickly and making it
difficult to control.
The old glue is dried out and hard. If the stain a glue spot is thick, you
will need patience and a good hand. If the stain is thin, just go to the
next step below, using the acetone. The first step is to thin out the glue
spot with a razor or an Exacto knife by scraping it slowly with care. Do not
press the cutting edge in the surface. Just scrap the brown glue spots. The
old glue will flake off. When you see and feel that the glue is thinned out
and smaller in size -- STOP.
The next step requires a some care. Take a very clean rag (white) or Q-tip
and dampen with the acetone solvent. Make sure it is NOT DRIPPING WET --
JUST DAMP enough to work with. Dap and wipe the brown spot area only! The
acetone will "MELT" the surface of the finish too -- take care. You must get
the feel of this process. With patience and some care, you will get the
results. Don't rush. Work with the acetone not against it. Do this by
quickly wiping the area of the glue spots only and no other area! You must
rotate the rag or Q-tips between every two to three or four quick wipes --
Then stop and let dry! Also, do not reintroduce the melted old glue onto
nearby surrounding area which will be soften by the acetone. The wiping of
the acetone will melt the glue and the surface underneath the glue too.
Don't fret. It will dry and harden up again.
YOU MUST LET THE AREA THE ACETONE CONTACT TO DRY BETWEEN EACH TIME. Repeat
the process until the brown spots are remove!
Afterwards, you can give it a final swipe in ONE DIRECTION ONLY. Do the
whole entire running length of the surface with a damp rag to blend in the
spot with the rest of the panel or the area. This surface will feel
"soften," it will dry and harden up again.
You can also clean all the other surface if you take great care with the
acetone. I have clean and blended my WHOLE GRAY interior of my DeLorean. It
gives it a new surface looked by cutting off the old dirty grimy surface
where other cleaners can't. Then finish with a good interior car finish.
I have also used acetone to clean the surface and to fill the minor crack
hair line cracks by "controlling the melting" of the gray dye. I have filled
the minor cracks with the melted dye in the leather sections. Again, with
one good final finish wipe with a damped acetone rag, the leather surface
will look cleaner, much better then before. Do this with caution in not
wiping too much other wise you may see the "tan" leather surface -- Do it
just once or twice, enough to clean off the grimy layer.
Before you begin, get some experience first. Remove a panel and try this
process on the underside of the panel or an area that is not noticeable.
Once you are confident with the process, then got for it.
Once again. You must exercise care and experience helps.
Kayo Ong
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Subject: [DML] Insurance...
Date: 2-Jul-99 4:38:07 -0700
Hi,
I think that the insurance difference between England and the USA is huge.
My current car, the Calibra, is only one insurance group (we have 20 over
here) short of porsche and ferrari which means it is classed as a high
performance car. I initially had problems getting insured on it but no
longer, this is why I find it hard to believe that I cannot find insurance
for the 'D'! From the people I have spoken to, the 'D' would only be classed
as a group 9 or 10 insurance, but it is because of it's class as "classic"
that stops me, NOT because I cannot afford it. I currently pay around ú1000
a year for the calibra which in american dollars is about $1600/$1700 at the
moment, a lot you might agree! If I could get insurance, for around ú1000 I
would take it.
But thanks again for the support and if I have any luck, you'll be the first
to know!
Dan
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Subject: [DML] Re: altenator replacement...
Date: 2-Jul-99 6:52:04 -0500
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In plainer English, you're looking at the A/C compressor, which is mounted
at the top on the left (as you look at the engine bay). Look on the
opposite side of the motor from underneath the car and you will see the
alternator. Mine has the Motorola and it's easy to read the name plate on
it from under the car.
Mark N
VIN 6820
At 09:40 PM 7/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Joe - looks like he has bigger problems than you thought - someone installed
>an Air Conditioning compressor where his alternator is supposed to go! ;-).
>No wonder there are problems.
>
>> Joe,
>>
>> It's a Sankyo.
>>
>> ----------
>> From: DMC Joe[SMTP:DMCJOE@att.net]>
>> Dan,
>> What kind of alternator is on the car now?
>>
>> DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
>> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
>>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Exhaust hoses needed...
Date: 2-Jul-99 9:10:45 -0500
RV drainpipe is not suitable for use with the DeLorean for a long
stretch of time. The short length of the DeLorean exhaust pipes,
the location of the muffler and catalytic converter means the
drainpipe may melt to the exhaust pipe. Not Pretty!
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Subject: [DML] Re: Exhaust hoses needed...
i don't know about a real deal exhaust hose but i can give you a good
ideal to a home made job go to your local rv/ camper dealer/supplier
and ask them for a sewage drain hose for campers they cost about 20.00$
and would work the same. most hoses are about 2 and a half inches in
diameter and come in various lengths the diameter of the hoses used
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Subject: [DML] Re: DML: Mid-Ohio Raceway (humorous ending)
Date: 2-Jul-99 8:29:49 -0600
Bottom line - - there is more British money in your DeLorean than any other
kind. As they say, the bottom line is the bottom line.
I've never considered whether the car is U.S. (JZD), British (money plus
Lotus engineering), Swedish (Volvo), French (transmission), Italian (Ital
Design), etc. It would be all too confusing. I simply think it is nice
that most British car shows allow us to display our cars.
For what it is worth, I simply say " It is one of the VERY few cars ever
made in Ireland.
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Search
Date: 2-Jul-99 9:29:46 -0500
Ed - All of the auction bills, magazines (like Old Car Trader,
Sports Car Market, Collectible Automobile) and the Cars of
Particular Interest (CPI) Guide use the 1-highest to 6-lowest
scale. I believe it is the "official" scale and is used worldwide.
There are some minor differences, some drop the 6 designation
and lump non-running cars with running beaters. 1-4 are very
consistent. Concours results are not often used unless the
event at which the car is judged is also identified. There
can be a big difference between a National Corvette
Restorers Society 89 point Corvette and an Olmsted
County Free Fair 99 point Corvette. The NCRS-judged
Corvette will probably be the better car.
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Search
> Standard auction condition ratings is just the opposite, Ben.
>
> 1: National Concours standard / perfect
> Mike Griese
> Ben
> There is a standardized scale of rating car quality. It uses
> numbers 1 though 6 to describe increasing car value. A one is a parts
> car. A 6 is a concours car.
Okay guys, what's it gonna be? #1 or #6? I wanna be the first to say
my D (for sale at $25K) should be at the top, or bottom, of someone's list,
# 1 or #6! Who cares which you prefer? Is there really an official list?
Probably. Personally, I prefer the concours ratings of 100 points max.
(Hence, my rating of my D at a potential of 99+, with a minimum of spit
and polish.) My guess is that at the top or the bottom of the "list" is
where your wallet is; where you will find find my D, and what you think
of my D that's for sale (or any D for that matter).
Regards,
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982, and still for sale at $25K OBO)
Midlothian, VA
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Subject: [DML] The Cross Reference Myth - A/C Dryer
Date: 2-Jul-99 10:26:43 -0500
A lot of people talk about cross-reference parts, and the current thread
about A/C dryers got me to wondering if there was an advantage, at least in
this instance.
I called Bob Stall Chevrolet in San Diego last night (since all the Chevy
dealers parts counters were closed here in Houston at 7:00pm). First of
all, they had no record of Part #1131411 in their computer. I then asked
for an A/C dryer for a 1984 Corvette, and after a 5 minute wait, he came
back with a price of $124.50, and it wasn't in stock - two days to get from
the distribution center to his dealership.
As Nick mentioned, there are two different dryers depending on the VIN of
your car - do you think the Chevy dealer will know which is the right one
for your car? Which part is the Chevy number above - early or late for the
DeLorean? Who wants to spend $125 to find out?
We sell both styles of A/C dryers at De Lorean Motor Company in Houston,
and the dryer that is correct for most DeLoreans is Part #110120, and it's
only $62.50. We know which one is correct for your car, and if you have any
questions about it after you buy it, we'll be able to tell you things that
Chevy dealer won't know.
I'm sure that there are some cross-reference parts that are a "good deal",
but I think that for a lot of them, there's no advantage.
James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas
>Has anyone else in this list had success with this unit or any other unit?
>>Please let me know. Thanks. ---Dan
>
>>----------
>>From: DMC Joe
>>Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 10:24 AM
>>To: dmcnews@egroups.com
>>Subject: [DML] Re: A/C Dryer...
>>
>>Dave,
>>Be aware that the following information was received through a reliable
>>source but we have never purchased or installed this unit ourselves.
>>Therefore we cannot guarantee the accuracy of this information.
>> The accumulator/dryer crosses over to an 84 Corvette post Vin 3468 GM #
>>1131411.
>>
>>DMC Joe
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Subject: [DML] Re: altenator replacement...
Date: 2-Jul-99 11:29:24 -0400
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On 01-Jul-99 William T Wilson wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Gerald Deutsch wrote:
>
>> I think I need to replace my alternator. I need more power to run the
>
> Depending on the model year of the car, you probably do. The early
> alternators are inadequate to operate all the accessories on the car. The
> later ones are adequate, but not by much.
>
> Unfortunately, replacement alternators that fit properly are hard to come
> by these days. As far as I know all the later-model original alternators
> are used up.
>
> There is a GM alternator that supposedly works also, but I don't know the
> specifics, nor whether it itself is still available.
>
There is a Lucas alternator that fits. I have one on my car. I don't remember
the part number off hand, but if anyone wants it, I can find it.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Brown Stains on A Grey Dash
Date: 2-Jul-99 19:01:16 +0100
Hi there,
I passed on the procedure for removing these stains from Dave Howarth, and the chap who got the
information said it worked beautifully. Work on the stains carefully with some lighter-fuel
(petrol - the stuff you put in Zippo lighters) and then buff the area up with some grey (or
black) shoe polish.
Martin
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> mrcopies@jet2.net writes:
> << Quick question...
> I have some brown stains on my grey dash. It is normally covered by a
> dashmat and looks fine but was wondering if anyone has ever been able to get
> these stains out. The rest of the dash is fine and looks great... no cracks
> etc..
> Thanks
> >>
>
> I too was wondering about these stains. I have a couple which are very
> small. I didnt try to remove them because of how small they are and because
> I didnt want to damage the vinyl with the wrong chemical. If anyone has had
> a similar problem and found a solution I too would like to hear about it
>
> Gary W. Gore
> Activities Director
> DeLorean Mid Atlantic
> VIN 3360
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Date: 2-Jul-99 14:20:16 -0400
>Hearsay indeed! There was never a DeLorean sedan DMC
>designation. Just another JZD dream right to the end.
I think you need to do a little more reading. There are references in
several books and magazines to the DeLorean sedan badged the DMC-24. If I'm
not mistaken, William Haddad, who worked for DeLorean Motor Company, refers
to this sedan and the name DMC-24.
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>I've seen the DMC-80 in SSI, but the truck is news to me.
The truck was supposed to be based on a truck built in the Soviet Union that
DeLorean wanted to import to the States. Again, this information can be
found in many of the out-of-print books about the DeLorean Motor Company.
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The doors were able to
>be locked and unlocked manually using the levers on each door while the
>driver was inside the car.. When exiting the car, the key would have to be
>used to lock the doors individually. Does this seem like a good solution
>to prevent one from getting locked in their car (without spending the money
>on new solenoids and a lockzilla) Has anyone else tried this?
>cjmack@jps.net >
I was wondering what happens if one door is open and then the other person
in the car, who has their door closed, locks the doors, then the open door
is shut, Will this harm the door or the locks? I've not tried it, but I
have worried about this happening accidentally.
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Are our cars really a model "DMC 12"? I vaugely remember reading something
to the effect of the message below, but I thought that this was a prototype
and not the production car. By the way, the title to my D does not say
that it is a "DMC 12." The model is something strange like "scedt16000".
(can't remember exactly what it is right now).
Brian 16584
>Conventional wisdom holds that the "DMC-12" was the twelfth incarnation
>of the original concept that began as the Allstate-DeLorean DSV-1
>(DeLorean Safety Vehicle). The designation DSV-12 was the final
>fundamental design incarnation by Bill Collins that would later be
>contracted out for production design to Ital Design of Turin, Italy,
>owned by Giorgetto Giugiaro. DSV-12 was changed to DMC-12 when Allstate
>pulled out of the project in 1974. At that time the target price of
>DMC-12 was $7K (1974 dollars) and it was called the DMC-12 at that time.
>The designation DMC-12 was finalized before Giugiaro got involved.
>He started the production design in 1975.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Possible Door Lock Remedy??
Date: 2-Jul-99 17:48:11 -0700
>I was wondering what happens if one door is open and then the other person
>in the car, who has their door closed, locks the doors, then the open door
>is shut, Will this harm the door or the locks? I've not tried it, but I
>have worried about this happening accidentally.
>thanx,
>Brian vin 16584
You can't lock the doors unless both doors are closed. If you press the
lock button whne a door is open it will immediatly unlock(actually not lock
at all). I found this out by accident when one of my doors wasn't closed all
the way and I tried to lock it.
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Mike, Don't forget Preston Tucker.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Possible Door Lock Remedy??
Date: 2-Jul-99 20:51:36 -0400
If you have the original factory lock module you may damage the solenoid in
the door that is open. The Lockzilla eliminates this problem.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: Brian Metz <metz.50@osu.edu>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: Possible Door Lock Remedy??
> Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 4:49 PM
>
> The doors were able to
> >be locked and unlocked manually using the levers on each door while the
> >driver was inside the car.. When exiting the car, the key would have to
be
> >used to lock the doors individually. Does this seem like a good
solution
> >to prevent one from getting locked in their car (without spending the
money
> >on new solenoids and a lockzilla) Has anyone else tried this?
> >cjmack@jps.net >
>
> I was wondering what happens if one door is open and then the other
person
> in the car, who has their door closed, locks the doors, then the open
door
> is shut, Will this harm the door or the locks? I've not tried it, but I
> have worried about this happening accidentally.
> thanx,
> Brian vin 16584
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Subject: [DML] Re: alternator replacement...
Date: 2-Jul-99 20:52:59 -0400
A Lucas alternator !!*#*# !
I hope you are not planning any long trips.
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> From: sundiver@discordia.org
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: altenator replacement...
> Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 11:29 AM
>
>
> On 01-Jul-99 William T Wilson wrote:
> > On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Gerald Deutsch wrote:
> >
> >> I think I need to replace my alternator. I need more power to run the
> >
> > Depending on the model year of the car, you probably do. The early
> > alternators are inadequate to operate all the accessories on the car.
The
> > later ones are adequate, but not by much.
> >
> > Unfortunately, replacement alternators that fit properly are hard to
come
> > by these days. As far as I know all the later-model original
alternators
> > are used up.
> >
> > There is a GM alternator that supposedly works also, but I don't know
the
> > specifics, nor whether it itself is still available.
> >
>
>
> There is a Lucas alternator that fits. I have one on my car. I don't
remember
> the part number off hand, but if anyone wants it, I can find it.
>
> - J
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Date: 2-Jul-99 21:03:15 -0400
Well, for the sake of saving time what was it? What part #? What price?
Great info but of no godly use without the rest. Please Ralph VIN 1606
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In a message dated 7/2/99 8:36:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, metz.50@osu.edu
writes:
<< By the way, the title to my D does not say
that it is a "DMC 12." The model is something strange like "scedt16000".
(can't remember exactly what it is right now). >>
The only reason your title says "SCEDT16000" is because who ever went to the
DMV and had the car registered wrote that in on the registration form. My
title says "De/Lo" because that is what we put on the registration form.
Next time you go to the DMV to get the car Registered put "DMC-12" under the
part that asks for the model of the car and when your title comes in it will
say "DMC-12" Problem solved.
Later,
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Subject: [DML] strut replacement aftermath
Date: 2-Jul-99 19:51:10 -0700
I replaced both struts today with new ones from DMC Houston. The clip
on the driver's side was pretty bent, but we got it on there. The
driver's side door, though, is seemingly going up too fast, as it is
hitting its peak and then bouncing back a bit. This doesn't seem
healthy for the doors. Any recommendations?
Also, the doors are a lot harder to close now, but I think that's normal
as a result of the new, fully-gassed struts.
Thanks,
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Date: 2-Jul-99 22:07:08 -0500
Ryan McCaffrey <ryanjm@home.com> wrote:
> Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 19:51:10 -0700
>
> I replaced both struts today with new ones from DMC Houston. The
> driver's side door, though, is seemingly going up too fast, as it is
> hitting its peak and then bouncing back a bit. This doesn't seem
> healthy for the doors. Any recommendations?
Somone undoubtedly twisted the torsion bars a notch or two to overcome the
bad struts. You can either leave them alone and be careful opening the
doors, or get them adjusted back down BY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE
DOING. A very slight "bounce" at the top is normal, but be even more careful
when you open the doors after the car has been in the sun for a while. This
can be hard on the mounts at the body (lower) end. These struts do not seem
to be temperature compensated like more modern ones (look at the struts on
the back door of a Chrysler minivan some time. No torsion bars, a very heavy
door, and they work the same hot or cold. Way too big for a DMC though.)
> Also, the doors are a lot harder to close now, but I think that's normal
> as a result of the new, fully-gassed struts.
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Subject: [DML] Re: New Owner
Date: 2-Jul-99 20:32:47 -0700
Michel,
You can't find a tire shop in INDIANAPOLIS (in the shadow of
the Speedway) that doesn't know about on-the-car spin
balancing?
Look for a shop that sells racing tires. Look for a shop
that advertises 'serving the tri-county area since 1948'
Look for a shop that is not a company outlet for
Goodrich/Goodyear/etc. Talk to the old guy working there.
The on-the-car balancing machine looks like a hydraulic
floor jack with a wide roller at the end opposite the
handle. Most of the ones I have seen are red. It can only
be used on the front wheels, since they are the only ones
that spin independently.
Hank Breer
VIN 1141
>Michel Poulin wrote:
>Who does this type of ballancing? I've gone to several
places here in
>Indianapolis w/o luck. :(
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Search
Date: 3-Jul-99 2:58:12 -0400
Uh, Justin, what's "bullcrap"? Your reply was not to any particular posting.
Are you in agreement with me or not? Your response is not entirely clear.
BTW, who is Lee Seiler? (Please forgive me, but I am new to the DML.)
I hold my DeLorean to the "highest standards possible" to be a potential 99+
point concours car (with a minimum of spit and polish as I previously noted).
I do agree with you that a $15K D is, at best, in "fair" condition.
Regards,
Ed Thompson (#6419)
Midlothian, VA >>
Sorry for not being too clear. When I said that this was "Bullcrap" I was
refering to the priceguide listed by someone else on the list claiming that a
concours DeLorean was only worth about $15,000, if a MINT DeLorean with
shrinkwrap on the seats was for sale at $20,000. From all the concours
DeLoreans that I have seen for sale, thats about $10,000 below a typically
fair price for the car. Most DeLoreans that go for about $15,000 are daily
drivers or simply in fair condition in need of a little love and elbow greese.
BTW, Lee Seiler is a well respected person in the DeLorean community. He
created the new DeLorean key blanks, and also the limited edition DeLorean
models.
One last thing.....if I offended anybody on the list with my "bullcrap" I'm
truly sorry. I just get a little defensive when someone tells me that my
DeLorean is worth $7,500 less than what I just paid for it :-) All Im saying
is that from what I have seen, any concours DeLorean is worth much more than
$15,000
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Subject: [DML] Starting problems
Date: 3-Jul-99 6:10:19 -0700
I'm having a starting problem and wanted to ask for advise from the group
The story is the car rarely starts what I'll call normally - like every other car I've owned. I used to own another Delorean and don't remember ever having a problem. I typically have to turn the key and then let go and hope the engine st
I replaced the fuel accumulator & the fuel pump a couple of months ago (about 1000 miles ago). The car has always started since then until recently. The fuel gauge was at about 1/4 tank both times ?? (not sure if that's an issue)
Another puzzling part is that although the starter turns very strong the car won't start but when I do push the car there is no hesitation in it starting. It starts without any effort at all.
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Date: 3-Jul-99 23:57:04 -0400
Check all of your connections at the compensating resistors
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Subject: [DML] Starting problems
Date: Saturday, July 03, 1999 9:10 AM
I'm having a starting problem and wanted to ask for advise from the group
The story is the car rarely starts what I'll call normally - like every
other car I've owned. I used to own another Delorean and don't remember
ever having a problem. I typically have to turn the key and then let go
and hope the engine starts. I don't "hear" it start as the starter is
turning like any other car. Sometimes it just won't start no matter what I
do short of pushing the car. I can wait sometime a short time, sometime
longer, then it starts like it usually does (when I let go of the key).
Never any pressure on the gas pedal.
I replaced the fuel accumulator & the fuel pump a couple of months ago
(about 1000 miles ago). The car has always started since then until
recently. The fuel gauge was at about 1/4 tank both times ?? (not sure if
that's an issue)
Another puzzling part is that although the starter turns very strong the
car won't start but when I do push the car there is no hesitation in it
starting. It starts without any effort at all.
Steve Pattison
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Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean inspired Toyota Supra
Date: 4-Jul-99 0:22:16 -0400
Just goes to show you that if you put gull-wing doors and enough ground
effects on just about any car, it'll look good!
I couldn't help but notice the nice seats in that car...I noticed an ad in
a local paper for a set of Recaro at a decent price...Anyone have any idea
how universal the seat mounting setup is in the DeLorean?
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Subject: [DML] Re: altenator replacement...
Date: 4-Jul-99 0:33:34 -0400
Hehehe...There's a Lucas alternator available? Hmmm...Why do the British
like warm beer? Because they have Lucas refrigerators...:) Actually, I
guess for the sake of having the information around, take a look next time
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At 10:39 PM 6/29/99 -0400, you wrote:
[snip.......................................................................
..........I appreciate everyone's
>opinions that were shared both on-list and off. Now I guess I need to find
>one of those special tools for the drain plug. Anyone have one for sale? Was
>this part of the tool kits that came with the cars? Mine didn't have one :^(
You can go to almost any auto parts and tool store and get a socket driver
that
fits right in the square oil drain plug. I paid $6.99 for one not so long ago.
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Subject: [DML] Re: The Cross Reference Myth - A/C Dryer
Date: 4-Jul-99 11:01:55 -0400
James,
You bring up a very good point. All DeLorean owners should take note of
your comments. D owners, listen up! Purchasing parts from a DeLorean
supplier benefits both the buyer and seller. Here is an example. The door
struts for the DeLorean have no other application except for the DeLorean.
They are custom built and only available in bulk orders. If it were not for
DeLorean parts suppliers, like DMC Houston, who can purchase these in bulk,
this very important door component would not be available. Could you
imagine your DeLorean with no source for door struts.
Most parts from the DeLorean suppliers are competitive with other sources.
In instances where they cost more, buy them. You will not only get the
right part you will also be helping to keep our parts suppliers alive and
well.
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Subject: [DML] New Yokohama tires
Date: 4-Jul-99 10:53:05 -0700
My DeLorean is going to need tires pretty soon. I have done a
considerable amount of searching, and it looks like the Yokohama AVS
Intermediate is one of the very few tires that fit both the front and
back. The sizes are 205x60-14 (oversized) for the front, and 235x60-15
(stock) for the back. www.tirerack.com is a great site to use for tire
hunting. My question is: Has anyone used these tires on his or her
car? How stiff does it ride? How well does it handle? Right now I
have Michelin Sport XGTs all around. These are not made anymore, and I
was wondering how the AVS compares in ride and handling. If anyone has
any comments on the AVS or any other high performance tire for the
DeLorean, please post.
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Date: 4-Jul-99 12:54:23 -0600
I would recommend the Yokohama AVS Intermediates without hesitation.
Several of my DeLorean friends are running on them as am I.
I have the standard 195's on the front, but the 205's should work as long
as your car has not been lowered (then there is a tendency to rub on the
wheel well in tight cornering.
Dick Ryan
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Subject: [DML] Leaking 5 Speed Tranny Fluid
Date: 4-Jul-99 15:03:50 -0400
Where is the fill hole or is there a dipstick for the 5 spd? I've
noticed some hard shifting into 1st lately. Where is the hydraulic
clutch fluid fill?
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Date: 4-Jul-99 13:05:33 -0600
DMC Joe's comments are right on target. I believe that if you maintain
your car with DeLorean parts you'll be better off and, surprisingly, money
ahead over the long haul.
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Subject: [DML] Re: alternator replacement...
Date: 4-Jul-99 15:06:24 -0400
>A Lucas alternator !!*#*# !
>I hope you are not planning any long trips.
>DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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>
He He. Yeah. I know. I know.
I didn't really choose to use this alternator. A few years ago my alternator
died. I called
all the DeLorean shops I knew of, and no one had a new alternator to sell
me. They all
wanted me to send them my old one to have it rebuilt. The alternator was in
really sad
shape, and I was pretty sure a rebuild was out of the question. So I took it
to a local
alternator shop I knew was good, and they confirmed that is was hopeless,
but said
they could get me a new replacement. So I went there to pick it up, and
there, sitting
on the table, was the box with "Lucas" written all over it. A scream of fear
went off in
the back of my mind, but then I figured I didn't have a better option at the
moment, so I
put it in my car. And over 3 years and 30,000 miles later, I have no
complaints.
It also came with a 3 or 5 year (I can't remember) warranty where they would
pay
towing and service costs if the car broke down because of the alternator.
- J
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Subject: [DML] Re: New Yokohama tires
Date: 4-Jul-99 15:37:57 -0500
I use AVS Intermediates on the DeLorean and the Esprit. They
are very competent performance tires. I prefer them to the
original Goodyear NCTs (which happen to be original equipment
for the Esprit - go figure). I can't comment about ride vs your
Michelins as I have no experience with them, but it is comparable
to the NCTs.
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Subject: [DML] New Yokohama tires
My DeLorean is going to need tires pretty soon. I have done a
considerable amount of searching, and it looks like the Yokohama AVS
Intermediate is one of the very few tires that fit both the front and
back. The sizes are 205x60-14 (oversized) for the front, and 235x60-15
(stock) for the back. www.tirerack.com is a great site to use for tire
hunting. My question is: Has anyone used these tires on his or her
car? How stiff does it ride? How well does it handle? Right now I
have Michelin Sport XGTs all around. These are not made anymore, and I
was wondering how the AVS compares in ride and handling. If anyone has
any comments on the AVS or any other high performance tire for the
DeLorean, please post.
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Subject: [DML] Re: New Yokohama tires
Date: 4-Jul-99 16:48:36 -0400
At 10:53 AM 7/4/99 -0700, you wrote:
>My DeLorean is going to need tires pretty soon. I have done a
>considerable amount of searching, and it looks like the Yokohama AVS
>Intermediate is one of the very few tires that fit both the front and
>back. The sizes are 205x60-14 (oversized) for the front, and 235x60-15
>(stock) for the back. www.tirerack.com is a great site to use for tire
>hunting. My question is: Has anyone used these tires on his or her
>car? How stiff does it ride? How well does it handle? Right now I
>have Michelin Sport XGTs all around. These are not made anymore, and I
>was wondering how the AVS compares in ride and handling. If anyone has
>any comments on the AVS or any other high performance tire for the
>DeLorean, please post.
I am using the Yokohama A-008 series on my car and so far they have been the
best I have ever experienced. They provide a very stiff ride, but worth it
when you take a sharp curves at high rates of speed. I haven't even come
close to losing control, and I drive like a maniac!
Scott Tester testersd@helicon.net
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Subject: [DML] Re: New Yokohama tires
Date: 4-Jul-99 16:51:54 -0400
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On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Ben Krasnow wrote:
> back. The sizes are 205x60-14 (oversized) for the front, and 235x60-15
> (stock) for the back. www.tirerack.com is a great site to use for tire
You should be able to get the AVS Intermediate in 195/60VR14, the stock
size.
Regardless of that, 205/60R14 should work just fine too. They will be
slightly larger but probably not enough to really be noticeable.
> hunting. My question is: Has anyone used these tires on his or her
> car? How stiff does it ride? How well does it handle? Right now I
The AVS Intermediate is an excellent tire. I have used them on RX-7s and
while they are not a true track tire, they will still develop a whole lot
more grip than the NCTs that came with the car. For a street tire, they
are about as high quality as you can get while still maintaining some
reasonable tread life.
The AVSi is probably the most popular DeLorean-sized tire available. It's
a pretty stiff tire, but the DeLorean likes that. :}
Michelin also makes some 195/60HR14s, but they are a different tread
pattern and compound than the 235/60HR15s that would fit the back, which
is bad.
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Subject: [DML] Re: New Yokohama tires
Date: 4-Jul-99 17:22:04 -0400
Ben wrote, Yokohama AVS
Intermediate is one of the very few tires that fit both the front and
back. The sizes are 205x60-14 (oversized) for the front, and 235x60-15
(stock) for the back. www.tirerack.com is a great site to use for tire
hunting. My question is: Has anyone used these tires on his or her
car? How stiff does it ride? How well does it handle?
They provide a good ride and stick to the road like glue. But the down side,
they are not good at all for driving in the rain.
Why the oversized tire in the front?
Keep the dream alive and be safe,
Robert Starling
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Subject: [DML] Delorean Get together
Date: 4-Jul-99 17:29:04 -0400
The North Carolina Delorean Get Together will be on July 10,1999 at 2:00pm.
The location will be at Tanglewood Park, Clemmons NC. In the tennis court
parking lot.
Maps and directions are posted on my web site.
http://www.freeyellow.com/members5/stainlesssteel/index.html
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Subject: [DML] Yokohama Tires
Date: 4-Jul-99 15:08:07 -0700
I have the new Yokohama tires on the front and back of my Delorean.
They handle and feel very good. I have taken sharp turns at high
speeds and they have gripped extremely well. Also, my car is lowered,
and they still fit perfectly. The sizes matched up exactly to the
stock NCT's. If you want to check out what they look like on the
Delorean, you can see a side and tread view on my site. Just go to the
My Delorean section and check out the tires.
http://homepages.go.com/~82delorean
Tamir
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Subject: [DML] Re: Emergency Brake Adjustment?
Date: 4-Jul-99 15:51:30 -0700
DMC Joe wrote:
>snip: "parking brake adjustment": "Look for this information at our web site beginning Monday the 28th."
>
DMC Joe,
Can't seem to find this at your site. Am I doing something wrong?
Mike Hirko
Kelso WA
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Subject: [DML] Correct air pressure on the tires
Date: 4-Jul-99 22:56:30 -0700
Which is of your experiences the best air pressure for the tires of the
DeLorean?
Ulli #03857, Germany
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Subject: [DML] Re: Insurance anyone?
Date: 5-Jul-99 3:56:27 -0400
My insurance is like that but additionally I can't take it to work or run errands, grocery shop,
with it. Basically they want the car never to be in a parking lot unless I'm with the car.
Actually, that works out just fine, and at $402/yr it cant be beat. American Classic Auto.
Bob
DMC3309@aol.com wrote:
> I had no problem getting insurance for my Delorean and the cost was a lot
> less than you might think. I have full coverage, agreed value, and Zero
> deductable for less than 275.00 per Year. The only real condition was that
> I have another car for my daily driver and there is a mileage restriction (I
> think 2500 miles per year). Anyone looking for insurance might call Hagerty
> Insurance at 1-800-922-4050.
>
> Robert
> VIN 3309
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Subject: [DML] New Owner
Date: 5-Jul-99 4:20:12 -0400
I bought my D about a month ago. It's about 93%+ and I bring it to
local car shows where
everyone is thrilled to see it. A little more explicrt: Body 98%,
interior 95%, Mechanical
75%, Electrical 80%, Engine 82%. It's very, very nice and I am in love
with my new baby.
It's completely helpless, it can't do any thing without me. I need to
feed and bathe it, and
put it to sleep. If and when it gets a scratch, I'll need to tend to
it. I would never let
anyone or anything hurt it.
Am I crazy?
Of course, but I'm having all kinds of fun with my "new" D.
An interesting picture attached. Thank's Dan!
I, as well, felt insulted when whoever that was said "don't pay more
than $15K for a D." I
thought I wanted to write back, then I thought "This person's not worth
getting upset over".
Enjoy the JZD pix,
Bob
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Subject: [DML] Re: DMC-12
Date: 5-Jul-99 13:03:20 -0400
In-reply-to: <14CBF56F>.24aed27d
><< By the way, the title to my D does not say
> that it is a "DMC 12." The model is something strange like "scedt16000".
> (can't remember exactly what it is right now). >>
>
>The only reason your title says "SCEDT16000" is because who ever went to the
>DMV and had the car registered wrote that in on the registration form. My
>title says "De/Lo" because that is what we put on the registration form.
>Next time you go to the DMV to get the car Registered put "DMC-12" under the
>part that asks for the model of the car and when your title comes in it will
>say "DMC-12" Problem solved.
>
>Later,
>Nick
That would make sense for the registration, but I'm refering to the title,
over which I have no cantrol. (title for ownership, not registration for
plates) Example - cars in Ohio state: sedan, 2d cpe, s/w, or p/u. These
are the designations given from the dealerships when the cars are new.
Brian vin 16584
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Subject: [DML] Re: Starting problems
Date: 5-Jul-99 13:19:53 -0400
In-reply-to: <005F01BEC5556690>a4c0$085b0418
-----------------------[ Content-type: text/enriched ]----------------------
You may need to check your ignition switch. I've seen this with GM cars
in the past. Some switches have a different source of power to the
ignition system while in start vs. run mode of the ignition switch.
Therefore, if this is the problem and the start source of power is not
working properly, your car will never start while the key is in the start
position. However, as soon as you release the key, the switch goes to
the run position, thereby providing power to the ignition system and
allowing the engine to run. It will start because the engine still
cranks for a second from when you held the key in the start position. I
don't know if Delorean ignition switch is the same, but it sounds like
it!! Hope this is helpful, let us know what it turns out to be.
Brian Vin 16584
<excerpt>
I'm having a starting problem and wanted to ask for advise from the
group
The story is the car rarely starts what I'll call normally - like every
other car I've owned. I used to own another Delorean and don't remember
ever having a problem. I typically have to turn the key and then let go
and hope the engine starts. I don't "hear" it start as the starter is
turning like any other car. Sometimes it just won't start no matter what
I do short of pushing the car. I can wait sometime a short time,
sometime longer, then it starts like it usually does (when I let go of
the key). Never any pressure on the gas pedal.
I replaced the fuel accumulator & the fuel pump a couple of months ago
(about 1000 miles ago). The car has always started since then until
recently. The fuel gauge was at about 1/4 tank both times ?? (not sure
if that's an issue)
Another puzzling part is that although the starter turns very strong the
car won't start but when I do push the car there is no hesitation in it
starting. It starts without any effort at all.
Steve Pattison
Vin #2628
</excerpt>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel Enrichment
Date: 5-Jul-99 15:27:41 -0400
Joe,
We've tested the idle speed circuit now, but what about the fuel enrichment
circuit?? Another test I did was pull the wire from the Frequency Valve while
the engine was idling which killed the engine, I assume this means it is also
working.
DMC Joe wrote:
> David,
> Good; the results of this test indicates that the idle speed circuit is
> operating properly.
>
> > From: David Sontos <dsontos@sybercom.net>
> >
> > When I pull the plug on the idle speed motor the idle drops a slight
> amount. Plugging it back in makes the engine rev up and then drop back to
> normal.
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Subject: [DML] Re: New Owner
Date: 5-Jul-99 12:42:33 -0700
Welcome to the proud delorean owners club. I have owned mine since 1989 and
bought it from the orginal owner. Although I have several other newer and
expensive cars, I always get attention when I take the Delorean for a spin.
After looking at other well-used Delorean's, I can better understand why
many are only going for only $15,000. You get what you pay for and it's pay
now or pay later. A well maintained Delorean can only increase in value as
the junky ones will always be snapped up by those that aren't willing to
purchase a well preserved car.
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> From: Robert Hlavacek <rahlavacek@snet.net>
> To: DeLorean News <dmcnews@egroups.com>
> Subject: [DML] New Owner
> Date: Monday, July 05, 1999 1:20 AM
>
>
> I bought my D about a month ago. It's about 93%+ and I bring it to
> local car shows where
> everyone is thrilled to see it. A little more explicrt: Body 98%,
> interior 95%, Mechanical
> 75%, Electrical 80%, Engine 82%. It's very, very nice and I am in love
> with my new baby.
>
> It's completely helpless, it can't do any thing without me. I need to
> feed and bathe it, and
> put it to sleep. If and when it gets a scratch, I'll need to tend to
> it. I would never let
> anyone or anything hurt it.
>
> Am I crazy?
>
> Of course, but I'm having all kinds of fun with my "new" D.
>
> An interesting picture attached. Thank's Dan!
>
> I, as well, felt insulted when whoever that was said "don't pay more
> than $15K for a D." I
> thought I wanted to write back, then I thought "This person's not worth
> getting upset over".
>
> Enjoy the JZD pix,
>
> Bob
>
> PS: egroup rejected this message with 2 pix, too large, sorry. Email me
> privately and I'll send them to you if anyone's interested.
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Replacing Antifreeze
Date: 5-Jul-99 13:05:29 -0700
I plan to drain and replace the antifreeze in my 1981 Delorean. As there
is no drain cock on the radiator, please let me know the preferred way to
handle this. I have bled the air several times before to remove the air,
but have never replaced the antifreeze solution. In addition, if there was
a previous Delorean World article (with pictures) on this, I would
appreciate the date of the technical article.
God, I love this chatline!!!!!!!! I will never sell my Delorean when I
have so many friends to reach out to.
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Subject: [DML] Re: DMC-12
Date: 5-Jul-99 16:11:37 -0400
In a message dated 7/5/99 3:38:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, metz.50@osu.edu
writes:
<< That would make sense for the registration, but I'm refering to the title,
over which I have no cantrol. (title for ownership, not registration for
plates) Example - cars in Ohio state: sedan, 2d cpe, s/w, or p/u. These
are the designations given from the dealerships when the cars are new >>
Brian,
This is what I am talking about...here in New York on the registration
form, there is a little box that u can put a check mark in for "Title Only"
and thats what we did we filled out the form for a Title only and we put in
"De/Lo" under the model of the car and that is what is printed on the
Title..proof of ownership.
Later,
Nick
VIN#1852...still for sale e-mail directly if interested
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Subject: [DML] Re:Fuel Odor
Date: 5-Jul-99 16:34:28 -0400
Here is one for all DMLers
Has any have this experience with is?
I own my DeLorean for 3 1/2 years. It is now the summer and it has been
extremely hot on the East coast. The last couple of days we been having a
heat wave here in NYC. Yesterday was the Fourth of July.
My situation for the last three summers and just yesterday it happened again,
is that when the ambient temperature gets very hot at extremes above the 88
degrees, there is strong smell of gasoline in the interior of my DeLorean.
This smell is strongest when creeping in traffic or standing with the engine
running, after a long run or several hour hours of usage. This doesn't
happen in the cooler ambient temperatures. This condition leads me to
believe that the odor of the gas may be coming form the area of the tank --
the front of the vehicle?
When the vehicle moves, the air fans the smell away from the under carriage
of the car so there is no odor when moving? The level of the smell, is like
a small rag damped with gas left in the interior. I can''t trouble shoot the
problem, unless there is high ambient temperature and the extreme hot
temperature is not there all the time? There is no leak or drip of gasoline,
the fuel consumption is normal. Anyone with experienced answers?
Kayo Ong
#05508
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Subject: [DML] Re: Correct air pressure on the tires
Date: 5-Jul-99 16:47:09 -0400
Ulli,
Factory spec 23 front 30 rear.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Correct air pressure on the tires
> Date: Monday, July 05, 1999 1:56 AM
>
> Which is of your experiences the best air pressure for the tires of the
> DeLorean?
>
> Ulli #03857, Germany
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: New Yokohama tires
Date: 5-Jul-99 16:50:02 -0400
We have found the AVS tires to be the best all around tires for the
DeLorean.
They offer a comfortable quiet ride and can handle any challenge your
DeLorean can offer them. However, I am concerned about the size of the
front tires. The 205 is considerably oversized than the spec. 195's. This
size tire my come into contact with the fender during severe menders.
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> From: Ben Krasnow <kraz@wco.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] New Yokohama tires
> Date: Sunday, July 04, 1999 1:53 PM
>
> My DeLorean is going to need tires pretty soon. I have done a
> considerable amount of searching, and it looks like the Yokohama AVS
> Intermediate is one of the very few tires that fit both the front and
> back. The sizes are 205x60-14 (oversized) for the front, and 235x60-15
> (stock) for the back. www.tirerack.com is a great site to use for tire
> hunting. My question is: Has anyone used these tires on his or her
> car? How stiff does it ride? How well does it handle? Right now I
> have Michelin Sport XGTs all around. These are not made anymore, and I
> was wondering how the AVS compares in ride and handling. If anyone has
> any comments on the AVS or any other high performance tire for the
> DeLorean, please post.
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: alternator replacement...
Date: 5-Jul-99 16:52:05 -0400
Very very good J.
As I tell everyone, no matter how well you think you know the DeLorean
there is always new information to be discovered. I always figured that
Lucas must make at least one good product; you may have discovered it.
Now that you "let the cat out of the bag" you need to give us a model or
stock number. Thanks for the info.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: J <sundiver@discordia.org>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: alternator replacement...
> Date: Sunday, July 04, 1999 3:06 PM
>
>
>
> >A Lucas alternator !!*#*# !
> >I hope you are not planning any long trips.
> >DMC Joe
>
> >
>
>
> He He. Yeah. I know. I know.
>
> I didn't really choose to use this alternator. A few years ago my
alternator
> died. I called
> all the DeLorean shops I knew of, and no one had a new alternator to sell
> me. They all
> wanted me to send them my old one to have it rebuilt. The alternator was
in
> really sad
> shape, and I was pretty sure a rebuild was out of the question. So I took
it
> to a local
> alternator shop I knew was good, and they confirmed that is was hopeless,
> but said
> they could get me a new replacement. So I went there to pick it up, and
> there, sitting
> on the table, was the box with "Lucas" written all over it. A scream of
fear
> went off in
> the back of my mind, but then I figured I didn't have a better option at
the
> moment, so I
> put it in my car. And over 3 years and 30,000 miles later, I have no
> complaints.
>
> It also came with a 3 or 5 year (I can't remember) warranty where they
would
> pay
> towing and service costs if the car broke down because of the alternator.
>
> -
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Subject: [DML] Re: Emergency Brake Adjustment?
Date: 5-Jul-99 16:53:58 -0400
Mike,
You are not doing anything wrong, the information hasn't been placed on the
web-site. If all goes well you should see it by end of the day tomorrow
7/6.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: Mike Hirko <mikehirko@tdn.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: Emergency Brake Adjustment?
> Date: Sunday, July 04, 1999 6:51 PM
>
> DMC Joe wrote:
> >snip: "parking brake adjustment": "Look for this information at our web
site beginning Monday the 28th."
> >
> DMC Joe,
> Can't seem to find this at your site. Am I doing something wrong?
>
> Mike Hirko
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Leaking 5 Speed Tranny Fluid
Date: 5-Jul-99 16:53:14 -0400
Robert,
It is very unlikely that your hard shifting into first is based on
transmission lubrication. Your problem is probably related to the clutch
hydraulic system. Does you DeLorean have the factory plastic clutch line or
the improved stainless steel braided line. If you find the plastic unit in
place replace it with the stainless unit and you will have smooth sailing;
or should that be shifting!
If you don't know where to look for this item contact me directly for
information.
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> From: Robert Hlavacek <rahlavacek@snet.net>
> To: DeLorean News <dmcnews@egroups.com>
> Subject: [DML] Leaking 5 Speed Tranny Fluid
> Date: Sunday, July 04, 1999 3:03 PM
>
> Where is the fill hole or is there a dipstick for the 5 spd? I've
> noticed some hard shifting into 1st lately. Where is the hydraulic
> clutch fluid fill?
>
> Bob
> VIN ('82) 0961 or 10961
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel Enrichment
Date: 5-Jul-99 17:42:19 -0400
David,
The test you just completed on the frequency valve and the test on the
idle speed system checks out OK.
Now here is the stupid question: what was the original problem?
Somehow we have lost a description of your original problem. I went back in
my files and here is the earliest post from you leading up to today.
"believe I have finally come to an inpass with my DeLorean. I have a
problem with the fuel enrichment circuit that may envolve the main fuel
pressure regulator. I have no means of checking fuel pressures at the
different points in the engine so I am asking the "List" for suggestions. I
guess my last resort would be to drive the car up to PJ Grady. Since I live
in Virginia its going to take about 10-12 hours to get there."
Dave Sontos
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> From: David Sontos <dsontos@sybercom.net>
> To: dmcnews Newsletter <dmcnews@egroups.com>
> Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel Enrichment
> Date: Monday, July 05, 1999 3:27 PM
>
> Joe,
> We've tested the idle speed circuit now, but what about the fuel
enrichment
> circuit?? Another test I did was pull the wire from the Frequency Valve
while
> the engine was idling which killed the engine, I assume this means it is
also
> working.
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Subject: [DML] Coys Racing Festival
Date: 5-Jul-99 23:59:02 +0100
Hi there,
I have a request: Could anyone on the DML attending the Coys Historic
Racing Festival at Silverstone at the end of this month, DeLorean owning
or not, please e-mail me privately?
To those who don't know about it - please visit my site - it looks to be
a great event and we're trying to establish how many DeLoreans have
independantly registered to attend.
Thanks,
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Subject: [DML] Re: altenator replacement...
Date: 5-Jul-99 19:24:17 -0500
> Hehehe...There's a Lucas alternator available? Hmmm...Why do >the British
> like warm beer? Because they have Lucas refrigerators...:)
Hey let's give credit where credit is due. Alexander Bell invented
the telephone and Edison invented the incandescent light bulb but it WAS
Lucus that invented the short circuit.
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Subject: [DML] Re: The Cross Reference Myth - A/C Dryer
Date: 5-Jul-99 20:38:29 -0400
does anyone have a cross listing for the steering wheel? as I am finding it
hard to source one in the UK
I did manage to pick up a new set of interior switches from a 1983 Renault
Fuego they whole set cost me ú20 ($15) !! and they all light up ,bit of a
bargain
ta
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Subject: [DML] Re: Correct air pressure on the tires
Date: 5-Jul-99 18:40:23 -0600
DMCJOE is right, of course with the 23 front and 30 rear as factory specs.
HOWEVER, in as much as you are from Germany with it's wonderful Autobahn,
you should know that in section L:12:01 of the DeLorean Workshop Manual, a
seperate set of specs are provided for high speed driving. The manual
calls for 29 front and 34 rear.
There is no definition of high speed driving. When I do long road trips I
Usually go to 25 and 32.
For what it is worth, the spare should be inflated to 60 lbs.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Subject: [DML] Dented Fender
Date: 5-Jul-99 20:58:35 -0400
A little mishap today in my barn. An old door resting against a barn
pillar fell over causing the door handle to hit the right front fender
creating a small quarter sized dent right on the fender lip. I did what
I could to get it out but it is still there like a beacon saying "FIX
ME!"
Question: Does anyone had a similar size repair done? What this is
going to cost to retool out? I'll take the fender off and ship it but
I'd like to know roughly what the cost will be so I can decide if I call
my insurance company. Anyone have any thoughts on that???
Also, if anybody has the time, what is the procedure for removing the
fender? Is this a difficult job? I assume you need to remove the front
fascia.......
Thanks
Tom Watkins
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Subject: [DML] Re: New Yokohama tires
Date: 5-Jul-99 20:38:17 -0500
In-reply-to: <000E01BEC66346FC>ff00$94a80e3f
At 05:22 PM 7/4/99 -0400, you wrote:
<snip>
>They provide a good ride and stick to the road like glue. But the down side,
>they are not good at all for driving in the rain.
>
I'm surprised. I drove my D a couple of weeks ago in a VERY heavy downpour
and thought the tire did well. Of course, I'm used to high performance
tires. Compared to a basic all season tire they weren't great, but they are
much better than a lot of their high performance competition!! (IMHO, YMMV,
etc!!)
Mark N
VIN 6820
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Subject: [DML] Re: DMC-12
Date: 5-Jul-99 20:44:42 -0500
In-reply-to: <3>.0.5.32.19990705130320.007b84c0
In a lot of states, the dealership that sold the car new will fill in the
model designation for the title application when the car is purchased by
the first private owner. Probably your state is one of those, and whoever
filled in the paperwork just grabbed part of the VIN to put in that spot on
the title.
Mark N
VIN 6820
At 01:03 PM 7/5/99 -0400, you wrote:
> ><< By the way, the title to my D does not say
>> that it is a "DMC 12." The model is something strange like "scedt16000".
>> (can't remember exactly what it is right now). >>
>>
>>The only reason your title says "SCEDT16000" is because who ever went to
the
>>DMV and had the car registered wrote that in on the registration form. My
>>title says "De/Lo" because that is what we put on the registration form.
>>Next time you go to the DMV to get the car Registered put "DMC-12" under
the
>>part that asks for the model of the car and when your title comes in it
will
>>say "DMC-12" Problem solved.
>>
>>Later,
>>Nick
>
>That would make sense for the registration, but I'm refering to the title,
>over which I have no cantrol. (title for ownership, not registration for
>plates) Example - cars in Ohio state: sedan, 2d cpe, s/w, or p/u. These
>are the designations given from the dealerships when the cars are new.
>
>Brian vin 16584
>
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Subject: [DML] Delorean Down Under #4162
Date: 6-Jul-99 12:13:50 +1000
Greetings to all of you in DML,
My name is Greg Scalia and I have just last week purchased #4162. This car was originally bought in Okla City in Sep 1981 (I have the original purchase order) for $US27601. It seems to have been brought to Australia in about 1990. The c
The D is in pretty good shape. The interior trim is excellent condition with very little evidence of sun damage. The body pannels are clean and relatively free of scratches and the rubber bumpers are great. I have replaced the tyres an
I work as a cardiologist in Brisbane Australia. I intend to use the car once or twice per week between hospitals, alternating it with my other car (E240). I obtained the obligatory "88 MPH" plate. Surprisingly, the project has the full s
The following short list of problems has arisen
Alternator completely failed and the battery has depleted several times. It doesn't look that old and is being worled on as I type
There is a current leak - I think the door lights on the left door are not going off when the door closes.
The alignment of the doors and their closing is not good. This will take some work and I expect difficulty finding a local body shop who can deal with this problem
There has been warping around the front windshield which will require some form of rebuild
All in all, these are only minor problems which I am sure can be solved with suitable application of MONEY.
I am delighted to have joined the Delorean Fraternity. I plan to attend the Delorean Owners Assoc Octoberfest In St Loius in combination with a trip to my Alumini (The Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Ohio) where I trained in 1995-1996. I loo
I looki forward to talking with some of you soon and gas-bagging about Delorean stories and tricks-of-the-trade.
Regards
Greg #4162
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Subject: [DML] Re: Tire sizes (was: New Yokohama tires)
Date: 5-Jul-99 21:17:03 -0500
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000Importance: Normal
FYI (to those thinking of using oversized tires): My De Lorean had 205s in
the front when I bought it. They did indeed rub when the wheels were turned
to extremes. I don't care for rubbing, so I had them replaced with stock
sizes.
Travis Graham
> The 205 is considerably oversized than the spec. 195's. This
> size tire my come into contact with the fender during severe menders.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Re:Fuel Odor
Date: 5-Jul-99 22:30:21 -0400
>My situation for the last three summers and just yesterday it happened again,
>is that when the ambient temperature gets very hot at extremes above the 88
>degrees, there is strong smell of gasoline in the interior of my DeLorean.
>This smell is strongest when creeping in traffic or standing with the engine
>running, after a long run or several hour hours of usage. This doesn't
>happen in the cooler ambient temperatures. This condition leads me to
>believe that the odor of the gas may be coming form the area of the tank --
>the front of the vehicle?
Anyone with experienced answers?
>
>Kayo Ong
>#05508
>Lic 9D NY
Kayo,
I was having a similar problem last summer.
After checking everything else, especially the fuel pump boot and hoses, I
checked the cap on the fuel gauge sending unit on the fuel tank. It seemed
tight, but I opened the plastic ring very carefully with a set of large
channel locks, checked the rubber gasket (which appeared to be OK), then
carefully retightened the ring.
The smells ended.
Steve Jarvis
#3542
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Subject: [DML] Re: Re:Fuel Odor
Date: 5-Jul-99 23:44:02 -0400
Kayo,
Your high temperature fuel order is coming from one of two sources. You
either have fuel seeping past the fuel pump boot and or cover seal or your
roll over valve is defective. A physical inspection of the fuel pump area
should reveal any leakage in that area. To test the roll over valve just
by-pass it. If the odor goes away replace the valve.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: KayoOng@aol.com
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re:Fuel Odor
> Date: Monday, July 05, 1999 4:34 PM
>
> Here is one for all DMLers
>
> Has any have this experience with is?
>
> I own my DeLorean for 3 1/2 years. It is now the summer and it has been
> extremely hot on the East coast. The last couple of days we been having
a
> heat wave here in NYC. Yesterday was the Fourth of July.
>
> My situation for the last three summers and just yesterday it happened
again,
> is that when the ambient temperature gets very hot at extremes above the
88
> degrees, there is strong smell of gasoline in the interior of my
DeLorean.
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Subject: [DML] Re: The Cross Reference Myth - A/C Dryer
Date: 5-Jul-99 23:44:32 -0400
Neil,
We know of no crossover for the steering wheel.
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Subject: [DML] Re: The Cross Reference Myth - A/C Dryer
Date: Monday, July 05, 1999 8:38 PM
does anyone have a cross listing for the steering wheel?
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How can I get ahold of the light-up '83 Fuego switches? Are they an exact fit?
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Subject: [DML] Re: Insurance anyone?
Date: 6-Jul-99 1:48:07 -0700
We went with Parish Insurance, they allow you to drive the car to work, shopping or whatever with a
rate about like the one's your referring too. However they also restrict you to 2500 miles
annually.
Mike Atkinson
mikeatk@concentric.net
vin 16232
Robert Hlavacek wrote:
> My insurance is like that but additionally I can't take it to work or run errands, grocery shop,
> with it. Basically they want the car never to be in a parking lot unless I'm with the car.
> Actually, that works out just fine, and at $402/yr it cant be beat. American Classic Auto.
>
> Bob
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Subject: [DML] Re: New Yokohama tires
Date: 6-Jul-99 8:27:07 -0400
The AVS has been accepted by most (I think) as the best replacement tire
for the DeLorean.
This is the tire that both PJ Grady and DMC Houstion suggested to me.
Ben Krasnow wrote:
<SNIP>
> any comments on the AVS or any other high performance tire for the
> DeLorean, please post.
>
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Subject: [DML] SS clutch cable
Date: 6-Jul-99 5:57:49 -0700
how difficult is it to install a SS clutch cable? is it possible to do
it myself, or should i have a pro do it? if a pro needs to do it, do
you think the local mechanic is able to do this? my clutch is stiff
and it is hard to shift into gears sometimes. i thought it was the
fluid until the last "clutch" posting. thanks for the help
erik geerdink
VIN 4512
PLATE EGGS D
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Subject: [DML] ?? for DMCjoe
Date: 6-Jul-99 6:26:08 -0700
whiel looking at your homepage there is a section saying "Can your
Delorean take the heat this summer? perform these simple tests" what
are the simple tests? my delorean will run fine the first time i start
it, but when i shut it off and try to turn it on again it wont go. is
this vapor lock? it has to wait a little while until it starts.
thanks for your help
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Subject: [DML] Cooling fan switch?
Date: 6-Jul-99 15:08:34 +0100
Could anyone tell me where to find the cooling fan switch
please?
My car is being worked on at the mo. and the mechanic on the
case can't find it!
I've had a frustrating search through the mailing list archives
but to no avail.
Thanks,
Rusk
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Subject: [DML] Re: SS clutch cable
Date: 6-Jul-99 9:30:48 -0500
Erik - The DeLorean clutch is stiff. The stainless hose won't change that.
Replacing the hose is not that difficult. It requires grubbing around under the
car and messing with brake fluid. You will need to bleed the clutch after the
hose has been replaced. You can route the new hose along the same
path as the old hose.
Mike Griese
Storage Software Development Manager
IBM Storage Systems Division
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Subject: [DML] SS clutch cable
how difficult is it to install a SS clutch cable? is it possible to do
it myself, or should i have a pro do it? if a pro needs to do it, do
you think the local mechanic is able to do this? my clutch is stiff
and it is hard to shift into gears sometimes. i thought it was the
fluid until the last "clutch" posting. thanks for the help
erik geerdink
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Subject: [DML] Re: Cooling fan switch?
Date: 6-Jul-99 9:33:10 -0500
Rusk - The otter switch is on the underside of the coolant pipe
on the left-hand side of the engine bay along the frame rail. It
should have two wires attached to it and is held in place by
a spring clip.
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Subject: [DML] Cooling fan switch?
Could anyone tell me where to find the cooling fan switch
please?
My car is being worked on at the mo. and the mechanic on the
case can't find it!
I've had a frustrating search through the mailing list archives
but to no avail.
Thanks,
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Date: 6-Jul-99 10:42:09 -0400
Rusk said:
> Could anyone tell me where to find the cooling fan switch please?
> My car is being worked on at the mo. and the mechanic on the
> case can't find it!
I assume you don't have a shop manual. Otherwise any mechanic should be
able to find this switch (actually it's not too hard to find even
without a manual). I assume by "switch" you mean the temperature sensor
that activates the relays that control the cooling fans. This sensor is
mounted on the cooling line on the driver's side of the engine
compartment toward the bottom.
It is definitely described in the searchable DML back issues on the
website. Because the subject comes up so often, I believe it is very
common to have trouble with this circuit, especially if your car still
has the original relays. That is why Rob Grady sells so many
Fanzillas. At the very least you should make sure your car has been
updated with the Fan circuit bypass (also described in the back issues).
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Subject: [DML] Re: Cross Reference Myth - Steering Wheel
Date: 6-Jul-99 7:45:42 -0700
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DMC Houston does have then in stock, at about $350.
> Neil,
> We know of no crossover for the steering wheel.
>
> DMC Joe / DeLorean Services /
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> Subject: [DML] Re: The Cross Reference Myth - A/C Dryer
> Date: Monday, July 05, 1999 8:38 PM
>
> does anyone have a cross listing for the steering wheel?
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Dented Fender
Date: 6-Jul-99 10:55:39 -0400
Tom, I just had a repair very similar to yours completed. I removed the
fender
and took it to a body shop in Grand Rapids, MI. that is associated with a
dealership that used to sell D's. The rate at that shop is $30/hr. and it
took
4 hours to complete for a total cost of $120. It looks like new. I suppose
the rate you pay will depend very much on who does the work...or if they can
do it at all. These guys have repaired two separate dents/dings and don't
think repairing stainless it's a real big deal so they charge at normal body
shop rates. So it will very much depend on the shop to a large extent and
how
they view working with stainless. Taking off the fender is not
difficult...just follow the repair manual instructions. You do not have to
take the facia off completely...just loosen one side of it. You will have
to
remove the hood to access those bolts. No big deal...just mark the hinge
positions and work slowly and carefully like any other repair. The entire
fender removal took me less than 1 hour.
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A little mishap today in my barn. An old door resting against a barn
pillar fell over causing the door handle to hit the right front fender
creating a small quarter sized dent right on the fender lip. I did what
I could to get it out but it is still there like a beacon saying "FIX
ME!"
Question: Does anyone had a similar size repair done? What this is
going to cost to retool out? I'll take the fender off and ship it but
I'd like to know roughly what the cost will be so I can decide if I call
my insurance company. Anyone have any thoughts on that???
Also, if anybody has the time, what is the procedure for removing the
fender? Is this a difficult job? I assume you need to remove the front
fascia.......
Thanks
Tom Watkins
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Subject: [DML] Re: Dented Fender
Date: 6-Jul-99 11:05:01 -0400
Tom,
Your best bet is to to take a couple of photo's of the damage and send them
to one or more of the DeLorean repair facilities that provide stainless
repair work.
A rough estimate based on your description would be between $300 and $500.
It's too bad that you have already tried the repair yourself, the more the
metal is fatigued the more difficult it is to restore, this could increase
the cost of repair.
Complete details for removing the fender can be found in your Workshop
Manual at P:02:02. If you don't have this information you can contact us
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> From: Watkins Family <watbmv@megalink.net>
> To: DMC News list <dmcnews@egroups.com>
> Subject: [DML] Dented Fender
> Date: Monday, July 05, 1999 8:58 PM
>
> A little mishap today in my barn. An old door resting against a barn
> pillar fell over causing the door handle to hit the right front fender
> creating a small quarter sized dent right on the fender lip. I did what
> I could to get it out but it is still there like a beacon saying "FIX
> ME!"
>
> Question: Does anyone had a similar size repair done? What this is
> going to cost to retool out? I'll take the fender off and ship it but
> I'd like to know roughly what the cost will be so I can decide if I call
> my insurance company. Anyone have any thoughts on that???
>
> Also, if anybody has the time, what is the procedure for removing the
> fender? Is this a difficult job? I assume you need to remove the front
> fascia.......
>
> Thanks
>
> Tom Watkins
> #5732
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Cooling fan switch?
Date: 6-Jul-99 11:10:30 -0400
In some parts drawings it is called an outerstat or thermo switch. It is on
the underside of the drivers side coolant hose and is held in by a spring
wire clip. Ralph
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Subject: [DML] Re: Replacing Antifreeze
Date: 6-Jul-99 11:14:39 -0400
wayne,
The information you are looking for is in DeLorean World # 11 spring 86
page 28.
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> From: wayne selden <w.selden@worldnet.att.net>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com.
> Subject: [DML] Replacing Antifreeze
> Date: Monday, July 05, 1999 4:05 PM
>
> I plan to drain and replace the antifreeze in my 1981 Delorean. As there
> is no drain cock on the radiator, please let me know the preferred way
to
> handle this. I have bled the air several times before to remove the air,
> but have never replaced the antifreeze solution. In addition, if there
was
> a previous Delorean World article (with pictures) on this, I would
> appreciate the date of the technical article.
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Down Under #4162
Date: 6-Jul-99 11:24:16 -0400
Greg,
When you replace the alternator you should also replace the battery. If the
battery has had several complete discharges it will not perform well when
under stress.
To test if the door lights are causing your current leak pull fuse # 12 and
see if the problem goes away.
Your door and body problems could become much more complex if not handled
properly. Be absolutely sure that whoever works on your doors knows exactly
what they are doing.
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To: 'dmcnews@egroups.com'
Subject: [DML] Delorean Down Under #4162
Date: Monday, July 05, 1999 10:13 PM
The following short list of problems has arisen
Alternator completely failed and the battery has depleted several times.
It doesn't look that old and is being worled on as I type
There is a current leak - I think the door lights on the left door are not
going off when the door closes.
The alignment of the doors and their closing is not good. This will take
some work and I expect difficulty finding a local body shop who can deal
with this problem
There has been warping around the front windshield which will require some
form of rebuild
All in all, these are only minor problems which I am sure can be solved
with suitable application of MONEY.
I am delighted to have joined the Delorean Fraternity. I plan to attend
the Delorean Owners Assoc Octoberfest In St Loius in combination with a
trip to my Alumini (The Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Ohio) where I trained
in 1995-1996. I look forward to meeting some of you in October in St
Louis.
I looki forward to talking with some of you soon and gas-bagging about
Delorean stories and tricks-of-the-trade.
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Subject: [DML] Re: SS clutch cable
Date: 6-Jul-99 11:35:39 -0400
erik,
If you have a complete set of tools, some experience in automotive
hydraulic systems (brake bleeding), and a free weekend you should be able
to do the job yourself. If you need service procedure information contact
us directly.
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> From: delorean502@excite.com
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] SS clutch cable
> Date: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 8:57 AM
>
> how difficult is it to install a SS clutch cable? is it possible to do
> it myself, or should i have a pro do it? if a pro needs to do it, do
> you think the local mechanic is able to do this? my clutch is stiff
> and it is hard to shift into gears sometimes. i thought it was the
> fluid until the last "clutch" posting. thanks for the help
>
> erik geerdink
> VIN 4512
> PLATE EGGS D
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Date: 6-Jul-99 11:41:07 -0400
erik,
You have what is called a "no hot start" problem. There are two causes of
this condition. You either have a defective time/temperature switch or a
defective fuel accumulator.
In the future if you have a question specifically for me e-mail me
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> From: delorean502@excite.com
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] ?? for DMCjoe
> Date: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 9:26 AM
>
> whiel looking at your homepage there is a section saying "Can your
> Delorean take the heat this summer? perform these simple tests" what
> are the simple tests? my delorean will run fine the first time i start
> it, but when i shut it off and try to turn it on again it wont go. is
> this vapor lock? it has to wait a little while until it starts.
> thanks for your help
>
> erik geerdink
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Cooling fan switch?
Date: 6-Jul-99 11:51:52 -0400
Russell,
The cooling fan switch is located in the aluminum coolant return pipe which
you will find in the engine compartment drivers side. An illustration of
this part can be found at 1 / 3 / 1 item # 65 in your Parts Manual. A more
detailed view can be found at M:15:01 in the Workshop Manual and page 231
in the Technical Information Manual.
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> From: Russell Hughes <Rusk@stainless.co.uk>
> To: 'dmcnews@egroups.com'
> Subject: [DML] Cooling fan switch?
> Date: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 10:08 AM
>
>
> Could anyone tell me where to find the cooling fan switch
> please?
>
> My car is being worked on at the mo. and the mechanic on the
> case can't find it!
>
> I've had a frustrating search through the mailing list archives
> but to no avail.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rusk
>
> (SCEDT26T5BD005380)
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Cooling fan switch?
Date: 6-Jul-99 12:15:10 -0400
Russell,
I guess you have noticed from the amount of responses you received on this
item that this is a subject well known by DeLorean owners.
We realize that you may not have immediate access to all of the technical
information we refereed to in our previous post. We have all of this
information on the shelf, so we invite your mechanic to call us.
If your mechanic has any questions concerning the repairs to your DeLorean
he is welcome to call us for service support. Just tell him to call 770
631-4800 (9:00a-5:00p EST) and ask for DMC Joe.
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Subject: [DML] Modified Wiring
Date: 6-Jul-99 14:44:26 -0500
I decided to make the most of holiday weekend and work on my Delorean.
Specifically, I went to install the Fanzilla I bought so long ago and
procrastinated about.
But whoops! It didn't work, and after some troubleshooting I discovered
that the original owner had rewired the cooling fans to each have their own
circuit breaker and relay (the fan relay and fan fail relay were converted).
It's a nice solution, considering.
So, does anyone think I should tamper with a working system just to get it
back to factory spec? And if not, does anybody out there need a Fanzilla?
:-)
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Subject: [DML] Re: Insurance anyone?
Date: 6-Jul-99 13:17:26 -0700
We went with Parish Insurance, they allow you to drive the car to work,
shopping or whatever
with a rate about like the one's your referring too. However they also
restrict you to 2500 miles
annually.
Mike Atkinson
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Robert Hlavacek wrote:
> My insurance is like that but additionally I can't take it to work or
run errands, grocery
shop,
> with it. Basically they want the car never to be in a parking lot
unless I'm with the car.
> Actually, that works out just fine, and at $402/yr it cant be beat.
American Classic Auto.
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> Bob
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Date: 6-Jul-99 16:26:06 -0400
I'm searching for DMC owner in the Houston area for discussions of DMC
maintenance, info and for some photos for my scrapbook. Do any of you guys
know where I can find out if there are any in the Houston area?
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Date: 6-Jul-99 17:07:09 -0400
In a message dated 7/2/99 7:28:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
delorean502@excite.com writes:
<< State Farm is the way to go. >>
This may be true in Michigan, but not everywhere else. I had my DeLorean with
State Farm here in Kansas. After the first six month contract they refused to
renew my policy. They said by state law they had to insure it for six months
because I was an existing policy holder. After that they declared it
uninsurable do to the lack of replacement parts. I am currently using Farmers
Insurance. They have given me reasonable rates and no problems with coverage.
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VIN 5524
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Subject: [DML] Re: Modified Wiring
Date: 6-Jul-99 17:44:12 -0400
Gus,
The Fanzilla is the best solution to the shortcomings of the original
design, however, the duel circuit breaker / relay set up is also very good.
Prior to the introduction of the Fanzilla this was the modification of
choice.
Check all the wiring to these added components, if everything looks OK
you're better off just leaving it alone. Re wiring the electrical
compartment back to the factory original just to accommodate the Fanzilla
could be very labor intensive if you don't know exactly what you are doing.
If you decide to sell your Fanzilla we would be glad to place it on in the
classified section of our web-site free of charge.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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Subject: [DML] Modified Wiring
Date: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 3:44 PM
I decided to make the most of holiday weekend and work on my Delorean.
Specifically, I went to install the Fanzilla I bought so long ago and
procrastinated about.
But whoops! It didn't work, and after some troubleshooting I discovered
that the original owner had rewired the cooling fans to each have their own
circuit breaker and relay (the fan relay and fan fail relay were
converted).
It's a nice solution, considering.
So, does anyone think I should tamper with a working system just to get it
back to factory spec? And if not, does anybody out there need a Fanzilla?
:-)
Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695
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Date: 6-Jul-99 17:35:05 -0500
Its funny that you should mention houston. That is where Steve's DMC
facility is located. You should be happy enought just to be able to visit
his center.
If you are planning any meets please let me know. My name is Steve Rice. I
am just an enthusiast but I have been studying the D since october of 97. I
would like to meet a few more owners than i already know.
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Date: 6-Jul-99 17:41:32 -0500
Yup, I figured this was in the "if it ain't broke" category. Given the
modifications to my car that were done, I just wanted to know how much the
Fanzilla was needed.
Thanks for the classifieds offer. I havn't even asked PJG if they'll take
it back, but it's been quite some time.
Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695
>The Fanzilla is the best solution to the shortcomings of the original
>design, however, the duel circuit breaker / relay set up is also very good.
>Prior to the introduction of the Fanzilla this was the modification of
>choice.
>
>Check all the wiring to these added components, if everything looks OK
>you're better off just leaving it alone. Re wiring the electrical
>compartment back to the factory original just to accommodate the Fanzilla
>could be very labor intensive if you don't know exactly what you are doing.
>
>If you decide to sell your Fanzilla we would be glad to place it on in the
>classified section of our web-site free of charge.
>
>DMC Joe
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<P><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">Yup, I figured this was in the "if it ain't broke" category. Given the modifications to my car that were done, I just wanted to know how much the Fanzilla was needed.</FO
<P><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">Thanks for the classifieds offer. I havn't even asked PJG if they'll take it back, but it's been quite some time.</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">The Fanzilla is the best solution to the shortcomings of the original</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">design, however, the duel circuit breaker / relay set up is also very good.</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Prior to the introduction of the Fanzilla this was the modification of</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">choice.</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">></FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Check all the wiring to these added components, if everything looks OK</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">you're better off just leaving it alone. Re wiring the electrical</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">compartment back to the factory original just to accommodate the Fanzilla</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">could be very labor intensive if you don't know exactly what you are doing.</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">></FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">If you decide to sell your Fanzilla we would be glad to place it on in the</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#800000" SIZE=2 FACE="Rockwell Light">></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">classified section of our web-site free of charge.</FONT>
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Date: 6-Jul-99 19:31:58 -0400
Hi Joe,
The original thread was for stalling and rough idle for the first couple of
minutes then the engine runs fine. When first started it dies immediately,
restart and die again. This happens for several tries until the engine will
just stay running, (very rough) . Any application of the gas pedal kills the
engine during this time. After two or three minutes, no problem, engines runs
smooth and accelerates fine.
So that's the story, any ideas.
Dave
VIN 02573
DMC Joe wrote:
> David,
> The test you just completed on the frequency valve and the test on the
> idle speed system checks out OK.
> Now here is the stupid question: what was the original problem?
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DMC5524@aol.com wrote:
> << State Farm is the way to go. >>
>
> This may be true in Michigan, but not everywhere else. I had my DeLorean with
> State Farm here in Kansas. After the first six month contract they refused to
> renew my policy. They said by state law they had to insure it for six months
> because I was an existing policy holder. After that they declared it
> uninsurable do to the lack of replacement parts.
I used State Farm in Texas for the 3 years I had my DeLorean there and have now use them in
Illinois for the past 13 years (with 3 DeLoreans at one time) so please feel free to use this
info when re-discussing this issue with your local State Farm broker.
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Date: 6-Jul-99 21:07:47 -0400
Modified WiringGus,
I am looking to buy a Fanzilla pretty soon, please contact me privately for details as your e-mail address was not listed.
Sean Howley
VIN#2345
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I decided to make the most of holiday weekend and work on my Delorean. Specifically, I went to install the Fanzilla I bought so long ago and procrastinated about.
But whoops! It didn't work, and after some troubleshooting I discovered that the original owner had rewired the cooling fans to each have their own circuit breaker and relay (the fan relay and fan fail relay were converted). It's a nice
So, does anyone think I should tamper with a working system just to get it back to factory spec? And if not, does anybody out there need a Fanzilla? :-)
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<P><FONT color=#800000 face="Rockwell Light" size=2>I decided to make the most
of holiday weekend and work on my Delorean. Specifically, I went to
install the Fanzilla I bought so long ago and procrastinated about.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#800000 face="Rockwell Light" size=2>But whoops! It
didn't work, and after some troubleshooting I discovered that the original
owner had rewired the cooling fans to each have their own circuit breaker and
relay (the fan relay and fan fail relay were converted). It's a nice
solution, considering.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#800000 face="Rockwell Light" size=2>So, does anyone think I
should tamper with a working system just to get it back to factory spec?
And if not, does anybody out there need a Fanzilla?
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Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Down Under #4162
Date: 6-Jul-99 19:40:31 -0700
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<01bec7a9.02b3f0a-@nas4ip160.ipswich.gil.com.au> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/?start=1398 4
years. This car is one of only 5 D's known to be in Australia. There
are no others in my state (Queensland)
>
Greg,
You forgot to count mine, I live in the Gold Coast QLD. My D was at the
Brisbane Motor Show 1998.
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On Mon, 5 Jul 1999, Travis H. Graham wrote:
> FYI (to those thinking of using oversized tires): My De Lorean had
> 205s in the front when I bought it. They did indeed rub when the
> wheels were turned to extremes. I don't care for rubbing, so I had
Was your car lowered when you got it, or stock, and:
Do they rub on the inside of the wheel well, or on the fender?
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Date: 6-Jul-99 19:45:20 -0700
While alot of different subjects have been covered here on the DML, I
have yet to ever hear anything about financing. For the past 2 years we
have been looking for a DeLorean, of course we have found many for
sale, but I am still seeking financing. Credit isn't a problem at all,
it's just been that almost every bank that I've been to has turned me
down because of both the age of the car, and the car itself. The
closest that I've come has been 18.6%!!! So naturally I said no! If
someone could help me out with this, I would greatly appriciate it! I
have a good sized down payment, but I would much rather put a
dependable running D on monthly payments with extra money for repairs
that may come up, rather than Sink everything all at once into a
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Date: 6-Jul-99 22:31:12 -0700
OK this is it. I have two original front tires (195x60-14) Goodyear
NCTs off of my Delorean. They have about 1/16" of tread over the wear
bar. The sidewalls are in good shape (no cuts or scrapes). I have to
get rid of the pair, and I'm getting the feeling that they are not worth
much. If someone wants these, I will give them to you for the price of
shipping and my time to mail them. I actually don't know how much it is
to ship a tire. If someone is interested, I will find out. My guess is
it is aorund $10-20 each. If no one replies, they will be thrown out.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Insurance anyone?
Date: 7-Jul-99 2:46:21 -0400
Sorry, It's: American Modern Insurance Co.
You could also try American Collectors Insurance, Cherry Hill, NJ. You only get 2500 Mi with them,
but my quote was only $261.50/yr.
Bob
Robert Hlavacek wrote:
> My insurance is like that but additionally I can't take it to work or run errands, grocery shop,
> with it. Basically they want the car never to be in a parking lot unless I'm with the car.
> Actually, that works out just fine, and at $402/yr it cant be beat. (American Classic Auto.--
> Wrong name, see above)
>
> Bob
>
> DMC3309@aol.com wrote:
>
> > I had no problem getting insurance for my Delorean and the cost was a lot
> > less than you might think. I have full coverage, agreed value, and Zero
> > deductable for less than 275.00 per Year. The only real condition was that
> > I have another car for my daily driver and there is a mileage restriction (I
> > think 2500 miles per year). Anyone looking for insurance might call Hagerty
> > Insurance at 1-800-922-4050.
> >
> > Robert
> > VIN 3309
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not September 17th. I need to know if you are planning on attending
by July 9th (yes, that is this Friday). The event is open to all
DeLorean Owners.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Emergency Brake Adjustment?
Date: 7-Jul-99 3:20:03 -0400
I adjusted my emergency(parking) break without any help,
unfortunately.
When you take off the wheel there are two adjustment points. Choose the
large
slot head screw with rhe cotter pin!! Its a no brainer. Don't plat
with the
two nut adjustment on the cable! Remove the cotter pin and screwon the
slot
head screw untill the rotor won't turn. Then back off the screw where
the
rotor will JUST turn. Mabye not too freely. Then put in the cotter pin
or
back off the screw untill the cotter pin will fall in the screw head
slot.
Replace the cotter pin. Both sides, your done. an hour or so.
If you touch the brake cable adjustment on the break cable, two nuts on
either
side of a bracket, and remove the peg on the end of the cable from the
arm, DO
NOT, (WHEN REPLACING THE NUT ON THE BOTTOM OF THE PEG) OVER TIGHTEN THE
LOCK
NUT!!!!!!!!! IT WILL BREAK OFF THE BOTTOM OF THE PEG!!!
And turn a 1 hour job into a 6 hour job. Actually another 10 hour job
to fix
the peg. Or you could buy a new cable, but that's got to be $100 -
$200+ for
the part, plus hours to install. DON'T DO IT!!!!
The cotter pin - slot screw is simple.
Don't take out the end of the cable from the bracket.
There is some self-adjusting mechanism in the parking break bracket, but
it
obvisouly dosen't work, hense the need to adjust the parking break.
Mine now
holds solidly at about 3 clicks on the parking break. It passed the
safety
check in Connecticut easily after this ajustment.
If you're doing this and need some help, call me at (203) 377-7551
(home). I'm
an engineer. Or (203) 783-2729 8-5 (work) EDT
DMC Joe wrote:
> Mike,
> You are not doing anything wrong, the information hasn't been placed on the
> web-site. If all goes well you should see it by end of the day tomorrow
> 7/6.
>
> DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
>
> ----------
> > From: Mike Hirko <mikehirko@tdn.com>
> > To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> > Subject: [DML] Re: Emergency Brake Adjustment?
> > Date: Sunday, July 04, 1999 6:51 PM
> >
> > DMC Joe wrote:
> > >snip: "parking brake adjustment": "Look for this information at our web
> site beginning Monday the 28th."
> > >
> > DMC Joe,
> > Can't seem to find this at your site. Am I doing something wrong?
> >
> > Mike Hirko
> >
>
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> DMCJOE is right, of course with the 23 front and 30 rear as factory
specs.
> HOWEVER, in as much as you are from Germany with it's wonderful
Autobahn,
> you should know that in section L:12:01 of the DeLorean Workshop
Manual, a
> seperate set of specs are provided for high speed driving. The manual
> calls for 29 front and 34 rear.
>
> There is no definition of high speed driving. When I do long road
trips I
> Usually go to 25 and 32.
>
> For what it is worth, the spare should be inflated to 60 lbs.
Thanks for the information. But what are these values in " bar "? How
do I
have to convert?
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Hi,
I've been repairing the drivers side window regulator. This forced me
to remove the covering (??) of the door. I'm a bit worried about how to
replace the covering again (no - nothing was broken or lost)..
Does anybody know the correct way to replace the covering?
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Subject: [DML] Re: CHEAP INSURANCE
Date: 7-Jul-99 7:56:02 -0500
Insurance companies can be trained! If you are having problems with
your insurer over your DeLorean take the time to educate them about
the car, the service network and the parts supply. Once you can get
them to set aside their preconceived notions you can usually get
insurance at a reasonable rate. Plus it makes it a lot easier if you
ever need to process a claim.
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Subject: [DML] Re: CHEAP INSURANCE
In a message dated 7/2/99 7:28:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
delorean502@excite.com writes:
<< State Farm is the way to go. >>
This may be true in Michigan, but not everywhere else. I had my DeLorean with
State Farm here in Kansas. After the first six month contract they refused to
renew my policy. They said by state law they had to insure it for six months
because I was an existing policy holder. After that they declared it
uninsurable do to the lack of replacement parts. I am currently using Farmers
Insurance. They have given me reasonable rates and no problems with coverage.
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rather get one big email per day instead of a whole bunch of individual
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If you have never logged in like this before, click on "lost password"
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Subject: [DML] re: Financing
Date: 7-Jul-99 11:04:09 -0400
Robert said:
> While alot of different subjects have been covered
> here on the DML, I have yet to ever hear anything
> about financing.
Believe it or not, this *has* been discussed on the DML. James Espey
financed his DeLorean through Arizona Federal Credit Union. He
described how he did it in the DML on August 6, 1997. You can find it
in the back issues.
Even though I paid cash for my DeLorean, on a whim I did inquire about
financing and I got the same answer that Robert did. It seems ilogical
to me that a bank will finance a brand new car, which is guaranteed to
depreciate 50% or more before it's paid off, but they won't finance a
DeLorean, which barely depreciates at all and might actually increase in
value!
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Subject: [DML] Re: Correct air pressure on the tires
Date: 7-Jul-99 15:32:07 +0000
Tire pressure:
23psi = 1.585 bar / 30psi = 2.069 bar
29psi = 1.999 bar / 34psi = 2.344 bar
>From: 101.174325@germanynet.de
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>To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
>Subject: [DML] Re: Correct air pressure on the tires
>Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 03:56:08 -0700
>
> > DMCJOE is right, of course with the 23 front and 30 rear as factory
>specs.
> > HOWEVER, in as much as you are from Germany with it's wonderful
>Autobahn,
> > you should know that in section L:12:01 of the DeLorean Workshop
>Manual, a
> > seperate set of specs are provided for high speed driving. The manual
> > calls for 29 front and 34 rear.
> >
> > There is no definition of high speed driving. When I do long road
>trips I
> > Usually go to 25 and 32.
> >
> > For what it is worth, the spare should be inflated to 60 lbs.
>
>Thanks for the information. But what are these values in " bar "? How
>do I
>have to convert?
>
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Date: 7-Jul-99 8:36:28 -0700
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Im 18 years old and i got an $8000 loan for my Delorean just 2 weeks
ago. i went to a local bank near my house and they gave me the money.
interest kind of sucks, but its not unreasonable. all the employees at
the bank were eager for me to drive up with the delorean and show them
what it looks like up close.
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Does anyone know what the "window in side of the window" is for? If you know
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Date: 7-Jul-99 12:14:59 -0400
If your insurance company claims they can't insure a DMC due to a lack of
parts, get a letter from your parts supplier. I know that PJ Grady's will do
this as they offered to do this for me one time. As Mike stated, insurance
companies can be trained and educated. People need to know that parts are
not a major problem with a DeLorean.
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Subject: [DML] WI DMC
Date: 7-Jul-99 9:42:19 -0700
I'm looking for a DMC owner in Wisconsin, perferrably the Madison area.
I own one and I am trying to find where I can get it serviced. It
seems to be missing a bit especially going up hill. Most people don't
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Subject: [DML] Re: Financing
Date: 7-Jul-99 9:55:02 -0700
Financing should not be a MAJOR problem. You may have to look around a
bit, but you should be able to get rates comparable to any other used car.
If it develops that there really is no one in your community to turn to,
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Subject: [DML] Re: Correct air pressure on the tires
Date: 7-Jul-99 10:01:36 -0700
Re air pressure in "bars". I was going to say that the bars I visit have
only smokie air pressure, but -----
The numbers quoted are in lbs. I believe that 1 bar = 14.7 lbs. So divide
by 14.7 and you should have your answer. (At least that works on the pump
for my bicycle tires!!)
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Subject: [DML] Re: Disassembling/Assembling door covering
Date: 7-Jul-99 13:19:01 -0400
Rob,
You are asking a big question. First of all we need to get the language
correct. When you say "cover" I assume you mean the "interior door panel"
which there are two of; upper and lower. The normal procedure for
replacement of both panels is the opposite of removal. In other words, just
put it back on in reverse of how you took it off.
I probably have not answered you question so get back to me with your next
question.
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> From: rob.van.der.veer@twinsoft.nl
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Disassembling/Assembling door covering
> Date: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 7:27 AM
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been repairing the drivers side window regulator. This forced me
> to remove the covering (??) of the door. I'm a bit worried about how to
> replace the covering again (no - nothing was broken or lost)..
>
> Does anybody know the correct way to replace the covering?
>
> Yours,
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Financing
Date: 7-Jul-99 11:11:21 -0700
You'll also run into problems with insurance. The bank will want you
to have full coverage with a set deductible. The best thing to do if you
don't have all the money to secure the car is to take out a personal
loan. If your income and credit is good you my be able to borrow as much
as $10K. The insurance costs and the appraisal fees will be more than
the added percentage on the personal loan, plus, you'll have a clear
title on the car.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DMCVegas@worldnet.att.net [mailto:DMCVegas@worldnet.att.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 7:45 PM
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Financing
>
> While alot of different subjects have been covered here on the DML, I
> have yet to ever hear anything about financing. For the past
< SNIP>
> -Robert
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Subject: [DML] Re: Financing
Date: 7-Jul-99 12:05:53 -0700
The issue I had with my D, was that I wanted a 60 month loan (I decided to
finance more up front, than buy a D that needed work on it) However since
it was a used car older than 8 years, banks would only offer me a 36 month
loan Max. Therefore I turned to Hemmings and found classic car financing.
The intrest rate was 2 points higher that my bank (credit union), but still
at 9.75% it was a good deal. Therefore if you look hard enough, you will
find a company. Also the internet has alot of classic car financing sites.
Jason
VIN 16665
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Subject: [DML] Re: Financing
Financing should not be a MAJOR problem. You may have to look around a
bit, but you should be able to get rates comparable to any other used car.
If it develops that there really is no one in your community to turn to,
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Subject: [DML] Re: Does anyone know what the "window in side of the window" isfor?
Date: 7-Jul-99 14:09:13 -0500
In-reply-to: <501AD8C1>.24b4cfc7
At 11:44 AM 7/7/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Does anyone know what the "window in side of the window" is for? If you know
>please contact me
That's the "tollbooth" window, and it's the only portion of the window you
can open on the car. The larger area of the window does not open.
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Date: 7-Jul-99 16:09:08 -0400
Sent this recently and did not see it on the list.
With the recent talk about auto insurance, an important point to consider
(especially with collectable vehicles) is that most insurance does NOT
provide for replacement cost. What this means is that if your Delorean
receives considerable damage in an accident, your insurance company may
decide that the repair cost exceeds the DEPRECIATED VALUE of your eighteen
year old vehicle. Believe it or not, your regular auto insurance may put a
value on your Delorean of only a few thousand dollars. You could become
painfully aware of this fact, only when you filed a claim. Let's say someone
backs into your door, and the repair costs to replace the door are $5000.
The insurance company may calculate the depreciated value, on your 1982
Delorean, that originally sold for $20,000 when purchased new, is now only
worth $4,500! The $4,500 would be the amount you would be paid, upon
surrender of the vehicle. This is the case with most auto insurance, unless
stated differently, IN WRITING.
If you think this sounds outrageous, check it out, BEFORE you need to file a
claim. I'm speaking from personal experience, fortunately the vehicle was
not my Delorean.
The way around this debacle, is auto insurance stated value riders, or
insurance from companies specializing in collectible vehicles. This is one
of those areas where extra caution is needed and everything needs to be in
WRITING.
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Subject: [DML] Does anyone know what the "window in side of the window" is for?
Date: 7-Jul-99 22:10:50 +0100
I've always assumed this small opening had something to do with a necessity
because of the door design (maybe to keep it strong?) rather than an intended
feature. Does anyone know why the whole window doesn't open?
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Subject: [DML] Re: Does anyone know what the "window in side of the window" is for?
Date: 7-Jul-99 20:01:28 -0400
Hi,
A whole window would not fit inside the door. Look at the rear edge of the
door. It doesn't do straight down, but curves toward the front of the door.
Besides, a DeLorean has pretty large windows.
Tom
vin 6298
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> I've always assumed this small opening had something to do with a
necessity
> because of the door design (maybe to keep it strong?) rather than an
intended
> feature. Does anyone know why the whole window doesn't open?
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Subject: [DML] Torque Specs
Date: 7-Jul-99 17:10:54 -0700
The Canadian DeLorean club publishes a list of torque specs for the
DeLorean. They show 60lbs. for wheel lug nuts. The workshop manual shows
70lbs. I have heard both numbers bantered around. With the concern about
tightening these nuts too tight and causing possible brake rotor warping, I
wonder which is correct. I lean to the Workshop Manual, but it has been
known to be wrong also.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Subject: [DML] DeLoreans on the rise in Australia
Date: 8-Jul-99 10:50:01 +1000
It's great to see more and more people with DeLoreans in Australia! Being
such a vast country, it's hard to get in touch with other owners...heck,
it's hard to tell exactly how many there are here at all!
From what I can tell, there are three DeLorean owners in NSW (myself and my
dad included - counted as one owner, though), two DeLorean owners in
Queensland, and one in Western Australia (though he ownes two, one of which
is in Victoria).
If there are any more DeLorean owners Down Under would you raise your hand,
please?
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Date: 7-Jul-99 21:24:17 -0400
Fellow DML'ers,
As I can feel this thread about to be extinguished, I wanted to get my two
cents worth in. I have been dealing with Hagerty Insurance out of Traverse
City Michigan every since I bought my DeLorean. I pay around $400.00 a year,
for agreed value insurance, ($20,000), full coverage, with NO mileage limits,
and NO small print. These are people that went into the business because
they appreciate vintage/classic automobiles, and APPRECIATE the DeLorean for
what it is; a rare classic, worthy of insuring.
If you are shopping for insurance, beware the Conventional companies. Of
course, they vary from State to State, but chances are, you will come up on
the short end when filing a claim. If you want more info, please e-mail me
privately. I am in no way affiliated with this company, I'm just a satisfyed
customer, and BTW, I live in Tennessee, so this is not just for MI residents.
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Subject: [DML] Delorean Services
Date: 7-Jul-99 21:40:56 -0400
Fellow DML'ers,
I wanted to pass along to you an extremely pleasant experience, and would
encourage all of you to consider sending your business his way.
I speak of DMCJoe, and his son Alan. They took in ole 5705, to give her the
pampering that she so deserves. I had a long list of repairs that I wanted
to have done, but like everyone, was concerned about costs. I am very happy
to say that I did not have to sacrifice any repairs, and in fact, added some
other things, that were not on the original list because we were so far under
my budget.
It not just the money either. I was treated with the up most respect, kept
abreast of all the work being done, and was consulted when necessary of any
recomendations that they had.
There was many an opportunity to "take advantage" of me, but I will tell you,
that I have never met a more honest business, or two finer people.
The DeLorean was delivered spotlessly clean, the engine well cleaned, and
quite a few nicities that never showed up on the bill. You might say that
DeLorean Services "exceeded my expectations"!
Joe and Alan, you have quite a business, and It makes me proud to own a
DeLorean.
When you consider all the free help that Joe gives us on the list, and the
hours it takes everday to communicate with us, PLEASE dont forget to say
thanks. We just don't know how good we have it.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Does anyone know what the "window in side of the window" is for?
Date: 7-Jul-99 19:31:29 -0700
In-reply-to: <002101BEC8BD311B>4f00$48e393c3
For a picture of the almost-full-window installed in a Delorean by Bob
Brandys, follow this link:
http://www.delorean-midwest.org/ and then click on the "Time Machine"
link.
It's about halfway down the page. It CAN be done.
> I've always assumed this small opening had something to do with a
necessity
> because of the door design (maybe to keep it strong?) rather than an
intended
> feature. Does anyone know why the whole window doesn't open?
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Date: 7-Jul-99 22:38:25 -0400
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On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 101.174325@germanynet.de wrote:
> Thanks for the information. But what are these values in " bar "? How
> do I have to convert?
There are approximately 14 PSI per bar. It is actually about 13.8.
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Please disregard this message. I said 13.8 when in fact, I meant 14.8.
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, William T Wilson wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 101.174325@germanynet.de wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the information. But what are these values in " bar "? How
> > do I have to convert?
>
> There are approximately 14 PSI per bar. It is actually about 13.8.
>
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Subject: [DML] trunk cable
Date: 7-Jul-99 21:13:11 -0700
does anybody know how to get the cable inside the cable houseing for
the trunk cable? my cable broke so i ordered a new one. the new one
was just the cable and not the houseing. i cant seem to get the cable
in. does anybody know what to do about this? i'd like to be able to
latch my trunk one of these days. thanks for the help
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what are the factory speaker sizes? I just bought my D, and I'm looking
to put new speakers and stereo in since the original doesn't work. I
don't have time to take the interior panels out to see what sizes they
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Subject: [DML] Re: Disassembling/Assembling door covering
Date: 8-Jul-99 1:06:05 -0700
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DMC Joe,
You're right, I meant the interior door panel. Indeed I remove the
upper and the lower part because I had to get to the motor of the power
window. First we removed the upper part (which came off quite easily),
but it took us quite a while to remove the lower part, mostly because
of the door handle (which you pull to close the door) of which we
couldn't find the correct screws. We removed the rubber inside the
handle so we could loosen a particular screw. After that, the rest was
quite easy (except for the fact that we almost broke the plastic
surroundings of the controls which are mounted on the lower part of the
panel.
I'm a bit afraid that we might have to use a little force or a little
too much force in order to replace the lower panel so my question was
if there was a particular order. I suppose that the people at the
factory could do this within a few minutes without applying
unneccessary force instead of one hour (or more) and a lot of effort.
To summarise, Just doing it in reverse order doesn't seem a good idea
to me..
Yours,
Rob.
<19990707172300.hvtb936-@delorean> wrote:
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> Rob,
> You are asking a big question. First of all we need to get the
language
> correct. When you say "cover" I assume you mean the "interior door
panel"
> which there are two of; upper and lower. The normal procedure for
> replacement of both panels is the opposite of removal. In other
words, just
> put it back on in reverse of how you took it off.
>
> I probably have not answered you question so get back to me with your
next
> question.
>
> DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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Date: 8-Jul-99 1:13:26 -0700
Has anyone been successful in tracking down Bill Collins?
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Subject: [DML] Re: Tire sizes (was: New Yokohama tires)
Date: 8-Jul-99 1:55:41 -0700
Our DeLorean came with the 205's and when I heard they may rub I tried to make them do it just
to find out and fortunately they do not. The car is stock however the tires are not Yokohamas.
Mike Atkinson
vin 16232
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William T Wilson wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Jul 1999, Travis H. Graham wrote:
>
> > FYI (to those thinking of using oversized tires): My De Lorean had
> > 205s in the front when I bought it. They did indeed rub when the
> > wheels were turned to extremes. I don't care for rubbing, so I had
>
> Was your car lowered when you got it, or stock, and:
>
> Do they rub on the inside of the wheel well, or on the fender?
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> Just curious. :}
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In talking to my insurance company I found that they generally use the book value of the vehicle when working with claims. In calling my town assessors office (that wonderful place that calulates my property taxes...) I was informed that t
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> With the recent talk about auto insurance, an important point to consider
> (especially with collectable vehicles) is that most insurance does NOT
> provide for replacement cost. What this means is that if your Delorean
> receives considerable damage in an accident, your insurance company may
> decide that the repair cost exceeds the DEPRECIATED VALUE of your eighteen
> year old vehicle. Believe it or not, your regular auto insurance may put a
> value on your Delorean of only a few thousand dollars. You could become
> painfully aware of this fact, only when you filed a claim
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This is a resend. I didn't see the first message post.
I need a diagram/directions for where all of the hoses from the fuel
sending unit go. There are three large hoses on the right side of the unit
that are not diagramed in the manuels and we've already pulled the hoses
off. (Damn, what I would do for a poliroid right now.) I've found a
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From: Robert Greenhaw <deloreandude@juno.com>
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Subject: I Need Professional Help!
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 22:44:43 -0500
Hi guys! I'm supposed to go look at a DeLorean this Sat. to see if it's
worth buying. All I know so far is the body is perfect, and the guy is the
first owner. Could you guys give me a few pointers on what to look for, you
know, troubleshooting problems like the engine, int., ext., frame, etc.
I've researched the DeLorean for about a year-and-a-half and have decided
that the DeLorean is the car for me! I've even taken all other costs into
consideration.
BTW, I do not have the Internet, therefore I cannot search the archives, so
I'm relying on you guys(DMCJoe, HELP!!!) who know what to look for.
Much appreciated,
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Subject: [DML] Hagerty (was: insurance)
Date: 8-Jul-99 11:04:38 -0700
As I am driving my DeLorean less, I switched to Hagerty, too. I pay
about $500 per year, with agreed value of $25K, full coverage, no
mileage limits, etc. I did have to agree that it was not a daily
driver, nor a "backup" vehicle.
What I like about Hagerty is that no matter how many collecotr scars
you insure with them, you only pay for whihcever one is the highest
premium - they figure that you can only drive one at a time, right? My
favorite author alos uses Hagerty for his 90+ car collection, pays the
rate for only the most valubale car.
James
At 8:24 PM -0500 7/7/99, JCox4001@aol.com wrote:
>Fellow DML'ers,
>
>As I can feel this thread about to be extinguished, I wanted to get my
two
>cents worth in. I have been dealing with Hagerty Insurance out of
Traverse
>City Michigan every since I bought my DeLorean. I pay around $400.00
a year,
>for agreed value insurance, ($20,000), full coverage, with NO mileage
limits,
>and NO small print. These are people that went into the business
because
>they appreciate vintage/classic automobiles, and APPRECIATE the
DeLorean for
>what it is; a rare classic, worthy of insuring.
>
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Date: 8-Jul-99 14:31:48 -0400
Front is a 4, rear is a 4X10
orentha@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> what are the factory speaker sizes? I just bought my D, and I'm looking
> to put new speakers and stereo in since the original doesn't work. I
> don't have time to take the interior panels out to see what sizes they
> are, so any help from the list would be appreciated,
> thanks
> james VIN 15314
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Date: 8-Jul-99 14:35:06 -0400
I have called Hagerty many times, they claim they offer no policy that
allows you to drive the car to work. The may appreciate vintage and
classic cars, but they don't want them driven!
All of the discussion about buying policies does not mean much, unless
you have had experience with making a claim.. Any stories about that??
JCox4001@aol.com wrote:
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> Fellow DML'ers,
>
> As I can feel this thread about to be extinguished, I wanted to get my two
> cents worth in. I have been dealing with Hagerty Insurance out of Traverse
> City Michigan every since I bought my DeLorean. I pay around $400.00 a year,
> for agreed value insurance, ($20,000), full coverage, with NO mileage limits,
> and NO small print. These are people that went into the business because
> they appreciate vintage/classic automobiles, and APPRECIATE the DeLorean for
> what it is; a rare classic, worthy of insuring.
>
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All Delorean Fans,
Is it true that they are making new Deloreans in the year 2000?
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Subject: [DML] Re: Financing
Date: 8-Jul-99 14:58:15 -0400
No one has mentioned credit cards as a method of financing. This was my plan a couple months ago
when I had a close brush with buying a Maine Delorean - I wrote a "convenience check" to my
bank who in turn wrote a cashiers check made out to the dealer. My plan to pay the debt down was
to calculate what would be a conventional auto loan monthly payment (not the credit cards
minimum payment) based on the cars purchase price and a three or four year term and at an
interest rate of say 10%. I didn't bother to run the numbers of interest costs of conventional
auto loan vs. credit card as I planned to have it paid off in less than two years. However, with
credit card promotions offering enticing 3.9 - 6.9% on balance transfers, one could move this
credit card debt around as promotion terms expired or lock into a low fixed rate.
Scott Donnelly
PS. Never did buy the D - a non-start condition and suspicions of frame rust scared me off.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Tire sizes
Date: 8-Jul-99 15:53:42 -0500
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Hi Mike,
In an effort to add new information: The tires that I had on my car (which
did rub) were Goodyear GT+4. It must be the tire type that makes the
difference between rub and no rub. My car was (and is) at stock height.
What kind of tires are you using? IMO, slightly oversized tires look better
on a non-lowered De Lorean!
Travis Graham
#6344
> Our DeLorean came with the 205's and when I heard they may rub I tried to
make them do it just to find out and fortunately they do not.
> The car is stock however the tires are not Yokohamas.
> > FYI (to those thinking of using oversized tires): My De Lorean had 205s
in the front when I bought it. They did indeed rub when the
> > wheels were turned to extremes.
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Subject: [DML] Re: New Models?
Date: 8-Jul-99 17:08:48 -0400
> All Delorean Fans,
> Is it true that they are making new Deloreans in
> the year 2000?
No.
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Date: 8-Jul-99 17:35:45 -0400
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On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 Jonnygig26@aol.com wrote:
> All Delorean Fans,
> Is it true that they are making new Deloreans in the year 2000?
No.
JZD has a preliminary design for a car he would like to build, but does
not have any way to build it. If you want to loan him $500,000,000, I'm
sure he would go into production as soon as possible. :}
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Subject: [DML] Re: Torque Specs
Date: 8-Jul-99 16:53:00 -0500
The DMC manual I have shows 60 ft lbs but 70 wouldn't be enough to warp the
rotors. We tighten the wheel lugs on the Ford Ranger trucks we build to 135
nm which translates to more than 100 ft lbs. A good pneumatic impact gun can
easily exceed 150 ft lbs and in the hands of an unassuming tire changer
could easily cause problems to the lugs and alloy wheels. The DeLorean uses
only the lugs to locate the wheels. There is no flange on the hubs to fit
into the wheel center. When you brake lugs you can be in a lot of trouble.
You most certainly don't want someone tightning the lug nuts beyond the
yield point of the lug bolts.
Bruce Benson
> The Canadian DeLorean club publishes a list of torque specs for >the
DeLorean. They show 60lbs. for wheel lug nuts. The >workshop manual shows
70lbs. I have heard both numbers >bantered around. With the concern about
tightening these nuts >too tight and causing possible brake rotor warping, I
wonder >which is correct.
>Dick Ryan
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Subject: [DML] transmission
Date: 8-Jul-99 14:55:09 -0700
hello
Im a 16 year old delorean owner im getting desperate on getting a
transmission for my delorean that i might have to use a different one.
Does any one recommend any and also is the any delorean owner in lake
Elsinore
efren
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Subject: [DML] Re: Financing
Date: 8-Jul-99 17:57:48 -0400
In a message dated 7/8/99 1:03:01 PM Central Daylight Time, raynet@home.net
writes:
<< You might want to try a company called J.J. Best
<A HREF="http://www.jjbest.com/">www.jjbest.com</A> >>
You might try them, I did. They were not willing to help me. A few years ago
Stephen at DMC Houston recommended them to me. They would not loan more than
a few thousand dollars. Needless to say that was not enough for the
refurbished DeLorean I had picked out in Houston. About 3 months later I
received a letter from them saying they were sorry I couldn't find the right
car at the time, but if I needed a loan they would be happy to help now. I
wrote them a nasty letter explaining that I HAD found the right car and they
wouldn't help. I haven't heard from then since then. If anybody wants more
info I'll try to dig up the old paperwork. I eventually received a loan from
NationsBank for the final purchase of my DeLorean.
Good luck financing!
Dave
VIN 5524
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Search
Date: 8-Jul-99 15:06:54 -0700
A good point. However, in the buyer/seller market one must remember that
ANYTHING is worth only as much as someone is willing to pay for it. Start
high, it is easier to come down than go up. Robert VIN 6924
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>Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Search
>Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 00:42:24 EDT
>
>Ok, I hate to be rude but thats just bullcrap. Any 99point concours
>DeLorean,
>either Black or Grey interior, 5-Speed or Automatic, should be held to the
>highest standards possible. I believe Lee Seiler has had an idea before of
>having all DeLorean owners start asking upwards of $30,000 for fine quality
>DeLoreans, because the value of a collectors item, no matter what it is, is
>simply how much the owners are willing to hold out for. **MOST** $15,000
>DeLoreans that I have looked at in the past 4 years have atleast 25k miles
>and are in fair condition (A3 or A4) For the gentleman with the concours
>DeLorean for sale at $25,000, I wish you the best of luck. Please remember,
>dreams do NOT come cheap.
>
>Just my 2 cents,
>Justin
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Subject: [DML] Re: Hagerty (was: insurance)
Date: 8-Jul-99 18:21:27 -0400
In a message dated 7/8/99 3:19:14 PM Central Daylight Time,
jv_espey@yahoo.com writes:
<< What I like about Hagerty is that no matter how many collecotr scars
you insure with them, you only pay for whihcever one is the highest
premium - they figure that you can only drive one at a time, right? >>
You can only drive one at a time but what if something should happen to more
than one at the same time? Say the building they are being stored in should
flood or burn or ( a big concern around here ) a tornado should hit. I store
all my cars in the same building, I would hate to lose all of them and only
get paid for the most expensive. Seems like this philosophy would only work
with collision and not comprehensive. How do they address this situation?
Cautiously Curious,
Dave
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Subject: [DML] Re: Educating Insurance Companies (was: CHEAP INSURANCE)
Date: 8-Jul-99 18:29:26 -0500
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DeLorean Motor Company has on its website a letter similar to this, it is a
PDF file, so that it can be downloaded and printed for your insurance
company/agent.
http://www.usadmc.com/insletter.pdf
James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas
At 11:14 AM -0500 7/7/99, LovDMC12@aol.com wrote:
>If your insurance company claims they can't insure a DMC due to a lack of
>parts, get a letter from your parts supplier. I know that PJ Grady's will do
>this as they offered to do this for me one time. As Mike stated, insurance
>companies can be trained and educated. People need to know that parts are
>not a major problem with a DeLorean.
>
>Brian
>VIN 1597
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Subject: [DML] Re: Torque Specs
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Go 65 lbs and you can't go wrong.
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> From: Dick Ryan <raddad@cmn.net>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Torque Specs
> Date: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 8:10 PM
>
> The Canadian DeLorean club publishes a list of torque specs for the
> DeLorean. They show 60lbs. for wheel lug nuts. The workshop manual
shows
> 70lbs. I have heard both numbers bantered around. With the concern
about
> tightening these nuts too tight and causing possible brake rotor warping,
I
> wonder which is correct. I lean to the Workshop Manual, but it has been
> known to be wrong also.
>
> Dick Ryan
> VIN 16867
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Date: 8-Jul-99 19:34:35 -0700
ok, heres what happend...i dont know how i did it, but i did it. i
messed up in putting the trunk cable in and cut the cable...and the
housing...a little too short. i was working on the easiest thing in
the world, and i botched it up :( so i kinda need someones help. does
anybody have a trunk cable AND the housing for it, you know, the black
tubing around it. i need the whole thing. please e-mail me privately
if you have an extra. i really need your help. thanks in advance.
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Subject: [DML] Re: speakers
Date: 8-Jul-99 21:27:54 -0700
The fronts are 3.5" Craig single paper cones. The rears are 4"x10"
coaxial Craig "Power Plays". The stock speakers in my car were not
broken, but sounded really muddy. I replaced the fronts with Boston
Acoustics 3.5" coaxials. I replaced the rears with 5"x7" Polk EX
coaxials. These fit with very minor modifications. It actually uses
the stock mounting bracket, the only requirement is that two of the
mounting holes should be cut into slits, so that the bracket moves
slightly upward, pivoting on the third screw. They sound great, and can
handle the power that most new stereos put out. I also mounted an amp,
and a 10" subwoofer in the compartment behind the driver's seat (no
permanent modifications). If anyone is interested in details, please
email me. The system sounds very balenced, and produces a clean, well
staged performance. Good luck
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Hi guys!
Hey, just a quick update on that Time Magazine Poll....
After almost 103,000 votes...the Delorean has received 0% (not a single vote) for being one of the worst ideas of the century.
Telemarketing tops the list at 24%....
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Can you use it to go to the mall? or work?
When I called Hagerty, they said there is no mileage limit, but I could
never leave the car in a parking lot unattended (It could only be parked
in my garage, or at a car show with me next to it).
James Espey wrote:
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> As I am driving my DeLorean less, I switched to Hagerty, too. I pay
> about $500 per year, with agreed value of $25K, full coverage, no
> mileage limits, etc. I did have to agree that it was not a daily
> driver, nor a "backup" vehicle.
>
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Subject: [DML] RE:New Models?(New DMC info...AT LAST!)
Date: 9-Jul-99 9:08:39 -0500
While it IS true that MR. DeLorean is working on a new company and
car(s), we do not
know when the actual release date will be. My suggestion is to check out
the DuPont Registry,
start with this months, then August's issue. There is going to be a
large article detailing what
is going up in the world of DeLorean. There is a lot of info that JZD
will not allow anyone who
is related to the project to release to the public.
This is all I know:
1) The chassis and body will be made of "space-age materials"
used previously only in the aerospace industry, according to
DeLorean. Same goes for the engine. Here's a hint: go to the
US Patent Office website and search for patents owned by DeLorean.
He patented a *VERY* unusual engine unlike the world has ever
seen not too long ago...
2) The company name is still secret. So is the official project
name; it is not the DII (D-Two) or Firestar 500.
This is what I can tell you:
The car will weigh around 1500lbs. and go 0-60MPH in around 3 seconds.
It will be available in ragtop convertible with swingout doors (normal)
or gullwing sedan. There is a slight chance that around 100 cars will
be made with stainless steel gullwing bodies, if so plan on spending
at least US$45K on one. The normal models should sell for around US$22K.
...but DeLorean is always changing all of the specs for the car, just
like he did 20 years ago! So who knows what the future brings.
I hope this answers some of your questions!
Robert
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Subject: [DML] Re: speakers
Date: 9-Jul-99 10:42:45 -0400
James,
Don't bother trying to replace the original side / rear speakers. The sound
system for the DeLorean was designed long before "bass" was a necessity.
Those rear / side speakers have no baffling so regardless of what speaker
you install you will not hear deep bass. Keep in mind that you must remove
the rear quarter trim panel, considerably labor intensive if you have never
done it before, in order to assess the speaker mountings,
We suggest placing two 6" speakers in the carpeted panel (above the wheel
wells) at the back of the parcel shelf.
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> Subject: [DML] speakers
> Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 1:15 AM
>
> what are the factory speaker sizes? I just bought my D, and I'm looking
> to put new speakers and stereo in since the original doesn't work. I
> don't have time to take the interior panels out to see what sizes they
> are, so any help from the list would be appreciated,
> thanks
> james VIN 15314
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Subject: [DML] Exhaust smells like gasoline?
Date: 9-Jul-99 10:57:32 -0500
Hello fellow DMLers!
I've been reading the archives (yes reading the entire archives) and
I'm only up to Apr '96 so if the answer to my question is in there
forgive me.
When I take my car for a spin and then pull it into the garage- my
entire garage stinks of raw gasoline for a day! There is no gasoline
leak that I can see. Someone in the archives had a simlar problem and
was recommended to look into replacing his O2 sensor. A little more
info may help- the car has ALWAYS had this smell since I've owned it
(last August). It idles quite rough (never stalls though) and in
general feels underpowered (but then again I'm not sure what a
normally operating DeLorean is supposed to drive like). To me, it
seems like the engine is getting too much fuel and not enough air to
explode correctly in the cylinders.
I have not had a mechanic look at this yet- wanted to have some
suggestion to pass onto him when I do. Is this something that I would
be best having a Bosch-savvy mechanic looking at?
Thanks for your responses and advice in advance,
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Subject: [DML] North Carolina DMC Meeting
Date: 9-Jul-99 12:02:15 -0400
The meet that we are having here in NC appears to be growing. With more
people contacting me daily wanting directions on how to get here. I hope
that everyone has good trip and I am looking forward to meeting everyone.
If you are still thinking about coming dont hesitate, join us, I am sure
that we are going to have a great time.
Maps and directions are still on my web site:
http://www.freeyellow.com/members5/stainlesssteel/index.html
Also due to the warm weather that we have been having, after everyone gets
here, we may move the party to my house to stay cool. If you have any
Delorean videos or items that you would like to bring to share with us
please do.
Keep the dream alive and be safe,
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Subject: [DML] FTP Problems at dmcnews.com
Date: 9-Jul-99 9:07:32 -0700
There have been reports of problems downloading files from the www.dmcnews.com
web page in the past few days. After some discussion with the hosting server
people, it looks like it is demand related. I can only theorize that there
is another client on the same server with some hot new software to download
that is using up all of the anonFTP resources. If you have a hard time getting
the files, try again in the off-hours (late night/early morning). It seems
to work better then. I have tried it.
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Subject: [DML] Web Page updates
Date: 9-Jul-99 9:18:25 -0700
I've started to update the web page at www.dmcnews.com, feel free to comment
on it. It's going slowly, but here's the status on a few key issues:
I've added more detailed instructions on joining, leaving, and maintaining
your subscription to the list.
The Owners Directory is a huge project to update, Ken will be working on it
for a while longer. Anything you submitted in the past year is in his hands,
he's just got a lot to sort through. Please do NOT submit again, it just adds
to the confusion of sorting out multiple entries. We're working on a new means
of distribution as well. You may have noticed that the old "lounge" is no
longer working.
I've started adding to the BuyNSell page, and will start deleting ads older
than 90 days. If this gets to be too much work I'll either need a helper or
will shut it down. We're not sure how much good it really does - has anyone
actually bought or sold a car through this? Please write me to cancel your ad.
We're going to drop the non-car ads, suggest you join the Delorean crowd over
at eBay.
Other changes are in the works, so keep checking. Suggestions welcome.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Hagerty (was: insurance)
Date: 9-Jul-99 12:20:27 -0400
The interesting comments re: Hagerty Insurance on a multi-car policy (only
covering the car that's being driven and basing premium on the most expensive
car) is news to me. I've had my Delorean insured with Hagerty for over five
years now and I HAVE filed a claim. The insurance company was very insistent
about paying me for the claim. I was having trouble finding someone to
remove a tiny dent in the stainless. A month or two passed from the time I
notified Hagerty about the damage and they told me to get some type of
estimate, even if it was to remove the panel and ship it to where-ever for
the repair, just so they could settle the claim. I thought that was more
than fair.
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Subject: [DML] DMC Transmission
Date: 9-Jul-99 11:03:45 -0600
Does anyone know if the Renault gearbox is an R30 unit. I know that the
current Lotus Expirit V8 Twin-turbo (350bhp) has a Renault R1 unit albiet
reversed rotation. Does anyone know the horsepower restraints for the R30
if that is indeed the unit fitted to the DMC-12 .
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Subject: [DML] Phoenix DeLorean Owners & Enthusiasts
Date: 9-Jul-99 11:31:12 -0700
Hello,
I will be visiting Phoenix, Arizona for 2 weeks starting tomorrow,
July 10th. If any owners or enthusiasts would like to get together to
show or talk about the car, drop me an email to my "vacation account,"
arp_dmc12@yahoo.com I'll give you the # of where I'll be at or vice
versa. Thanks! Looking forward to coming out to my favorite city!
On a side note, I'd like to say Thank You to all those who have
contributed to the "DeLorean VIN Project" you don't have a much longer
wait to see it!
-John Heflin
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Subject: [DML] Re: Financing
Date: 9-Jul-99 14:48:43 -0400
I too called J.J. Best when I was looking for financing for my Delorean. I
was not very impressed with what I heard. It seems like they only wanted to
finance automobiles with a much higher price tag. I finally hooked up with a
Bank called First National bank of Sumner ( I think that is the correct
spelling) They advertise in Hemmings and they were very nice to do business
with. I would recomend them.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Financing
Date: 9-Jul-99 12:22:15 -0700
My car is financed through J.J. Best. However it was almost not. JJB gave
me the O.K. on the phone and said they were sending the check. Therefore I
mailed a deposit to hold the car to the past owner. After waiting 3 days
for the loan to arrive I called JJB, and they said they changed their minds.
I threatened to sue them for a verbal breach of contract, and then they
decided to send out the loan. Amen on that, since there were 2 other
interested buyers.
Jason
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Subject: [DML] Re: Financing
I too called J.J. Best when I was looking for financing for my Delorean. I
was not very impressed with what I heard. It seems like they only wanted
to
finance automobiles with a much higher price tag. I finally hooked up with
a
Bank called First National bank of Sumner ( I think that is the correct
spelling) They advertise in Hemmings and they were very nice to do business
with. I would recomend them.
Robert
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Subject: [DML] Re: [911] justifying replacement cost (fwd)
Date: 9-Jul-99 15:44:42 -0400
This is a message that came up on a Porsche mailing list that I thought
might also be applicable here in light of the recent discussion.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 11:58:56 -0700
From: Select Auto Insurance Program <staff@lelandwest.com>
To: 911/993/996 <911@rennlist.org>
Subject: [911] Re: justifying replacement cost
Hi Aaron,
The value differences you refer to are when someone has a 'stated' value
rather than an 'agreed' value. If the magic word 'agreed' is there its a
done deal, and thats universal.
Lots of people have 'stated' value, but thats only used to figure out how
much you get charged. The insurance company may allow you -- often via
silence on the subject -- to believe you have some sort of protection, when
you don't. Sadly I see this happen very frequently.
If someone wants details on what this insurance value stuff all means send
me something off-list and I'll send a link to a page I wrote on the subject.
It also includes instructions on how to hammer your ins. co. to figure out
if you're properly protected.
Aaron wrote
<snip>
> BTW, I have heard that there are differences in Agreed value policies,
there are
> many companies out there that offer them. I suggest doing you homework
and
> making sure that the company you pick will pay the full agreed value in a
claim
> just to be sure.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Exhaust smells like gasoline?
Date: 9-Jul-99 15:47:06 -0400
Jeff,
I had the same problem. My problem was that the fuel pump boot was not installed properly, and the gas was seeping out onto the top of the gas tank. I didn't see a leak either. But I smelled it. So open up your trunk, and take off the cover
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Sent: Friday, July 09, 1999 11:57 AM
To: dmcnews@egroups.com
Subject: [DML] Exhaust smells like gasoline?
Hello fellow DMLers!
I've been reading the archives (yes reading the entire archives) and
I'm only up to Apr '96 so if the answer to my question is in there
forgive me.
When I take my car for a spin and then pull it into the garage- my
entire garage stinks of raw gasoline for a day! There is no gasoline
leak that I can see. Someone in the archives had a simlar problem and
was recommended to look into replacing his O2 sensor. A little more
info may help- the car has ALWAYS had this smell since I've owned it
(last August). It idles quite rough (never stalls though) and in
general feels underpowered (but then again I'm not sure what a
normally operating DeLorean is supposed to drive like). To me, it
seems like the engine is getting too much fuel and not enough air to
explode correctly in the cylinders.
I have not had a mechanic look at this yet- wanted to have some
suggestion to pass onto him when I do. Is this something that I would
be best having a Bosch-savvy mechanic looking at?
Thanks for your responses and advice in advance,
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Subject: [DML] Re: DMC Transmission
Date: 9-Jul-99 16:36:25 -0400
Christopher,
Yes, it is the R-30. There is no horsepower spec's but we know that the
trans will hold up to the stresses of a twin turbo DeLorean.
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> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] DMC Transmission
> Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 7:03 AM
>
> Does anyone know if the Renault gearbox is an R30 unit. I know that the
> current Lotus Expirit V8 Twin-turbo (350bhp) has a Renault R1 unit albiet
> reversed rotation. Does anyone know the horsepower restraints for the
R30
> if that is indeed the unit fitted to the DMC-12 .
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Subject: [DML] Re: Exhaust smells like gasoline?
Date: 9-Jul-99 16:52:01 -0400
Jeff,
It sounds like a fuel leak, here is a test. After driving the car for a
while park it outside, on a day with no wind, and put your sniffer to work.
External leaks will usually leave a wet look in the area of the leak. The
most common fuel leak areas are the fuel filter, accumulator, and pump
connections. Be prepared to roll under the car and also to remove the
access panel to the fuel pump for a complete inspection.
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> From: Jeff Wiltzius <wiltzius@students.wisc.edu>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Exhaust smells like gasoline?
> Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 11:57 AM
>
> Hello fellow DMLers!
>
> I've been reading the archives (yes reading the entire archives) and
> I'm only up to Apr '96 so if the answer to my question is in there
> forgive me.
>
> When I take my car for a spin and then pull it into the garage- my
> entire garage stinks of raw gasoline for a day! There is no gasoline
> leak that I can see. Someone in the archives had a simlar problem and
> was recommended to look into replacing his O2 sensor. A little more
> info may help- the car has ALWAYS had this smell since I've owned it
> (last August). It idles quite rough (never stalls though) and in
> general feels underpowered (but then again I'm not sure what a
> normally operating DeLorean is supposed to drive like). To me, it
> seems like the engine is getting too much fuel and not enough air to
> explode correctly in the cylinders.
>
> I have not had a mechanic look at this yet- wanted to have some
> suggestion to pass onto him when I do. Is this something that I would
> be best having a Bosch-savvy mechanic looking at?
>
> Thanks for your responses and advice in advance,
> Jeff Wiltzius
> #6145
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Subject: [DML] 81 DeLorean for sale
Date: 9-Jul-99 16:16:39 -0500
81 DeLorean for sale. Automatic. Black interior. Has gas flap w/ lines
and has been lowered. The car has ground effects, rear wing, black out kit,
Alpine stereo system including tape unit w/ CD shuttle, Alpine amp & Punch
60 amp, Alpine Navigator, Alpine car phone, and 2 Kicker 10' woofers. Also
has Alpine alarm system w/ paging unit. No dings or dents. Interior and
exterior in excellent condition. I also installed seats out of a '95 T/A to
increase the comfort. All updates and upgrades made plus more. (including
rebuilt computer governor that has been working flawlessly since) Trophy
winning car. 101k miles. You can see pics at my website. I will take pics
this weekend and update the page to feature the newer equipment that's been
added since the last pics were posted. Asking $19,500. Car used as daily
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Subject: [DML] Re: trunk
Date: 9-Jul-99 17:56:53 -0400
Erik,
A cheaper way to go and to replace the trunk cable is to purchase a bicycle
replacement brake cable set. It cost less then $7.00 with the housing or
$4.00 for the inner cable. All you really need is the inner cable! The inner
cable is the same material and you can cut it to length. You can leave the
original cable housing in place. All you have to do is to snake the inner
cable into the housing by way of the trunk. Lock the cable down using the
original screw on the handle in the car's interior, THEN cut the cable to get
the working length.
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Subject: [DML] Re: 81 DeLorean for sale
Date: 9-Jul-99 17:30:45 -0500
In-reply-to: <000D01BECA506C4F>8de0$eecac9cf
At 04:16 PM 7/9/99 -0500, you wrote:
<snip> I also installed seats out of a '95 T/A to
>increase the comfort.
How did this work? I'm kinda looking for something that will fit. Only ones
I've looked at so far were in my Probe GT and they are a little wide,
especially on the driver's side where the parking brake handle is.
Also height is a concern to me as I'm close to touching the roof already in
my preferred seating position. Are the T/A seats about the same height??
The Probe seats seemed to be about a 1/2" higher, but I didn't look at the
tracks and mounting real close.
Thanks
Mark N
VIN 6820
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Date: 9-Jul-99 18:27:32 -0500
I've seen duke's D several times and it seems like the seats are slightly
lower than a regular seat. They are from a T/A and he used black ones and
they are a perfect match with his black interior.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Services
Date: 9-Jul-99 20:17:13 -0400
Hey DMCJoe,
I've always wondered where your shop is located. Why don't you share
your location with the list. Sorry if this has already been addressed.
Thanks,
Dennis Lowery
vin. 04797
Woodbridge VA
>I wanted to pass along to you an extremely pleasant experience, and >would
> encourage all of you to consider sending your business his way.
>
> I speak of DMCJoe, and his son Alan. They took in ole 5705, to give her the
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Subject: [DML] Re: RE:New Models?(New DMC info...AT LAST!)
Date: 9-Jul-99 20:31:09 -0400
> Robert Greenhaw wrote:
Excuse me, I'm new here, but who is Robert Greenhaw to speak
on behalf of a new DeLorean automobile?
> While it IS true that MR. DeLorean is working on a new
> company and car(s), we do not know when the actual release > date will be.
Who are "we"?
> The normal models should sell for around US$22K.
What is a "normal" model? We heard this sort of rhetoric
is the late 70's.
Regards,
A Skeptical Enthusiast,
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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Subject: [DML] New seats, and other mods
Date: 10-Jul-99 11:25:25 -0400
Duke,
Can we get some details on your custom modifications? Sorry, I am not
interested in purchasing your delorean, but I'd like to hear more about
how you customized it.
What did you need to do to install the 95 TA seats?
Do the modified seats still have the full mobility of the stock seats?
Does the woofer box restrict the range of the seats?
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8952/woofers.gif picture looks like
the seats would not be able to go all the way back, because the box is
in the way.
I have a MTX, but I am sure others are interested in your ATX govenor
modifications.
Duke wrote:
>
> 81 DeLorean for sale. Automatic. Black interior. Has gas flap w/ lines
> and has been lowered. The car has ground effects, rear wing, black out kit,
> Alpine stereo system including tape unit w/ CD shuttle, Alpine amp & Punch
> 60 amp, Alpine Navigator, Alpine car phone, and 2 Kicker 10' woofers. Also
> has Alpine alarm system w/ paging unit. No dings or dents. Interior and
> exterior in excellent condition. I also installed seats out of a '95 T/A to
> increase the comfort. All updates and upgrades made plus more. (including
> rebuilt computer governor that has been working flawlessly since) Trophy
> winning car. 101k miles. You can see pics at my website. I will take pics
> this weekend and update the page to feature the newer equipment that's been
> added since the last pics were posted. Asking $19,500. Car used as daily
> driver. Serious inquiries only please.
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Services
Date: 10-Jul-99 13:28:20 -0400
Dennis,
Our facility is tucked away in a mountain hideaway, and we don't want
anyone to find us. Just kidding !
Actually our facility is adjacent to our home in a very residential
neighborhood. Visits are possible by appointment only. For this reason we
don't advertise our location. For complete information on our location and
operation we encourage you to visit our website.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: Dennis Lowery <ratfink@erols.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Services
> Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 8:17 PM
>
> Hey DMCJoe,
> I've always wondered where your shop is located. Why don't you share
> your location with the list. Sorry if this has already been addressed.
>
> Thanks,
> Dennis Lowery
> vin. 04797
> Woodbridge VA
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Subject: [DML] Struts on ebay
Date: 10-Jul-99 12:57:46 -0500
Was searching on ebay and found something I thought was kinda funny.
Someone on ebay is just figuring out the name of one of the part suppliers.
Heres what i found:
These are two struts which hold open the door on a DeLorean automobile, my
son had them in the hopes of buying a car to put them on, but his finances
will not allow it for a while anyway, so here they are. Black and chrome,
they have a silver and black circular sticker on them with a picture of a
DeLorean with it's doors up, and says "P.J. Grady Inc." on top ( the
manufacturer, maybe?), and "DeLorean" beneath the car's picture. Maybe some
Delorean lovers out there know what they're worth, they are pretty just to
display as a piece of auto history, or maybe an owner can use them. The
winner pays $5 shipping. Thanks for looking!
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Search
Date: 10-Jul-99 10:58:42 -0700
A common, but easily forgotten, marketing philosophy for buyers/sellers is:
ANY ITEM is ONLY worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it. No
matter what the asking price is, whatever the offer, THAT is it's "value".
Robert VIN 6924
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>Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Search
>Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 08:06:19 EDT
>
>In a message dated 6/29/99 10:06:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>OutaTimeJT@aol.com writes:
>
><< Hi there 25k is too much. I have researched well and all dealers know
>that
> for a mint DMC the going rate is $15,000. I have found a brand new DMC
>from
> 1981 that has never been titled. It still has factory plastic, and it is
>only
> 20,000. Anything above 15k is too too much.
> Sincerely,
> --------------------------->Outatime >>
>
>This is an inaccurate value estimate of DeLoreans in my opinion. If you
>know
>of a "MINT" DeLorean for 15,000 let me know
>
>gary
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Subject: [DML] Re: RE:New Models?(New DMC info...AT LAST!)
Date: 10-Jul-99 22:35:47 -0500
O ye of little faith, just keep checking out the DuPont Registry, you'll
see!
BTW, I am not "speaking on behalf" of it, I'm just sharing what I know.
Once
again, noone knows when (or even IF for that matter) the release date
will be.
Wishing all godspeed,
A Faithful Believer,
Robert
P.S. "normal" mode pertains to the non-stainless vehicles.
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