DeLorean Mailing List - April 1999 - Week #2

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From: ESPEY@SMTP (James Espey) {espey@dmcnews.com}                                                                                                                                                                                              
Subject: [DML] Cincinnati Tornado                                                                                                                                                                                                               
Date: 13-Apr-99 10:51:54 +0000                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: KKoncelik@aol.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:34:39 EDT                                                                                                                                                                                                             
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Last Friday we had a Tornado in Cincinnat about a mile an a half from my                                                                                                                                                                        
house.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
I was bombarded by calls and e-mails from my DeLorean Friends from this                                                                                                                                                                         
list                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
and I want to take time and Thank all of you for the concerned e-mails.                                                                                                                                                                         
We are all fine but the last count had 8 dead  700 homes destroyed or                                                                                                                                                                           
damaged                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
and hundreds of businesses damaged or destroyed.  Cleanup will take a                                                                                                                                                                           
while                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
Well my Delorean is fine also                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Ken Koncelik                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
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Subject: [DML] Turned Over Car                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Date: 13-Apr-99 10:51:59 +0000                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:42:35 +0100                                                                                                                                                                                                           
From: Martin Gutkowski <martin.is@connect-2.co.uk>                                                                                                                                                                                              
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Subject: Turned Over Car                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Another post that disappeared. I got an e-mail vie the DOC site from a                                                                                                                                                                          
lady in the US with a rather unique problem, but I warn you, it'll make                                                                                                                                                                         
you annoyed - it did me!                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
The following are the two e-mails she sent me: Any advice would be                                                                                                                                                                              
appreciated.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Dear Sir/Madam,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
My name is Claire Lowe and I have a 1981 Delorean. The thing is that                                                                                                                                                                            
someone tipped it onto its roof last night and I am at a bit of a loss                                                                                                                                                                          
as to how to go about getting it repaired. The car is currently in                                                                                                                                                                              
Michigan State and as I am an exchange student here from Ireland, I                                                                                                                                                                             
really have no clue as to where to start. Any advice would be most                                                                                                                                                                              
appreciated.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
<<my reply>>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> > Hi there Claire,                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
> > I'm really sorry to hear about your car - I presume you mean it's                                                                                                                                                                           
now                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
> damaged on the roof (?) ie the doors and T-bar, louvers and maybe the                                                                                                                                                                         
> quarter panels are in need of attention?                                                                                                                                                                                                      
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> If you have to get it done in the US, then it's a trip to DeLorean One                                                                                                                                                                        
or                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
> DMC houston, or PJ Grady's (see links on my site). If it's coming back                                                                                                                                                                        
to Ireland > with you, bodywork damage can be repaired a lot cheaper                                                                                                                                                                            
here.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> How on earth did you manage to roll it??? It's the first time I've                                                                                                                                                                            
heard                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
> of this happenning!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
<<and in response>>                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Dear Martin,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
Thanks for replying. I am not sure if you would have heard about the                                                                                                                                                                            
riots at                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
Michigan State University but that is how the car got tipped over. A                                                                                                                                                                            
bunch of                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
inebriated students turned it onto its roof and then subsequently took                                                                                                                                                                          
photographs of themselves as they stood on top of it. The car is                                                                                                                                                                                
currently at                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
an impound in East Lansing, Michigan, awaiting removal to a garage. The                                                                                                                                                                         
doors                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
still work but I'm not really sure of the extent of the damage as I                                                                                                                                                                             
haven't                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
seen it in daylight yet. Is PJ Grady's in NY? If it is, I think that                                                                                                                                                                            
that may                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
be the closest workshop. If you have any advice, I'd really like to hear                                                                                                                                                                        
from                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
you. Thanks again for your trouble.                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Claire Lowe.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Delorean gathering                                                                                                                                                                                                               
Date: 13-Apr-99 10:54:14 +0000                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: "Micah Fryman" <nocoke2@litchfieldil.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                 
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Subject: Delorean gathering                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:51:35 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Fellow list members:                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Mid-State Delorean Club is having a informal gathering on Saturday, May                                                                                                                                                                         
22,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
1999 in Litchfield, Illinois.  I would like to invite anyone on the list                                                                                                                                                                        
to                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
come.  Please give me an e-mail if you are interested.  We currently have                                                                                                                                                                       
15 Deloreans coming.                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
You need to let me know if you can make it so that I can send you some                                                                                                                                                                          
info.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
nocoke2@litchfieldil.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
phone:  217-324-6558                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Thanks,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Micah Fryman                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Delorean price                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
Date: 13-Apr-99 10:54:19 +0000                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: guillaume.morel@ac.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:40:16 +0100                                                                                                                                                                                                           
Subject: Delorean price                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Dear sir,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I discovered the DMC Delorean several years ago. I really like this car                                                                                                                                                                         
and                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
was very happy to find several websites dealing with it ! But as far as I                                                                                                                                                                       
just begin to access all those news, I'd like to ask you a very basic                                                                                                                                                                           
question : as a collection car, what can be the price range of the                                                                                                                                                                              
Delorean                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
How many cars were made ? what is the chance to get one ?                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Thank you very much for your attention,                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] DOC Site Update                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Date: 13-Apr-99 10:54:09 +0000                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:42:44 +0100                                                                                                                                                                                                           
From: Martin Gutkowski <martin.is@connect-2.co.uk>                                                                                                                                                                                              
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Subject: DOC Site Update                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Hi there,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
(the following is a re-type of my post which went into the black hole                                                                                                                                                                           
that was Digest number 498/499). Unfortunately, I had no "sent items"                                                                                                                                                                           
within Netscape Messanger!                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I recently updated the DeLorean Owners Club UK website to include the                                                                                                                                                                           
following:                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Pictures from the recent London Classic Car Show at the Alexandra Palace                                                                                                                                                                        
(see Members Cars and Club Gallery). Police officer Mark Bourne's                                                                                                                                                                               
restored late '81 in GORGEOUS condition, with what I consider thoroughly                                                                                                                                                                        
"sensible" improvements - chrome exhaust pipes, Sony Minidisc head unit                                                                                                                                                                         
and CD-changer, All-round Pirelli P600s and more - pictures all                                                                                                                                                                                 
available to view.                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Additions to the Download page of three mpeg videos of DeLorean-related                                                                                                                                                                         
interest, all taped by me at the car show(s), and an article from                                                                                                                                                                               
Classic and Sports Car from March 1997 - issues of which can be                                                                                                                                                                                 
purchased through the club - see the...                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
All new Merchandise Page. This page is devoted to items of DeLorean                                                                                                                                                                             
related material available through the DOC. This is by no means an                                                                                                                                                                              
exhaustive list as Dave Howarth is forever obtaining new items here and                                                                                                                                                                         
there, but present are the items of most interest. For example,                                                                                                                                                                                 
sweatshirts with embroidered "DMC" logo - as modelled by Dave himself on                                                                                                                                                                        
the gallery page, the "Hot-Wheels" style model DeLorean, and my                                                                                                                                                                                 
favourite, available exclusively through the club in limited quantities,                                                                                                                                                                        
a miniature pewter 1982 DeLorean. This is a lovely little item and I                                                                                                                                                                            
have two sitting on top of my television. Surprisingly accurate, and not                                                                                                                                                                        
too expensive, I'm sure you'll agree! See the photo alongside the ridge                                                                                                                                                                         
on Mark's bonnet, and in his car above the centre console.                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Trust me, you'll want one of these models! And any money generated from                                                                                                                                                                         
the sale of merchandise (and it isn't much!) goes strait back into the                                                                                                                                                                          
club to fund, among other things, the planned 2001 meet at Dunmurry.                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
As usual, any comments/question/suggestions, feel free to e-mail me.                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Best Wishes,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Martin                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
DeLorean Owners Club UK                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Auxiliary Driving lights                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Date: 13-Apr-99 10:54:12 +0000                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: "Joel Matos" <jmatos22@hotmail.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                       
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Subject: Auxiliary Driving lights                                                                                                                                                                                                               
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:41:59 PDT                                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I want to install aux driving lights. Someone can give some ideas how                                                                                                                                                                           
to installed                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Joel Matos                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
Puerto Rico                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] spell checker                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
Date: 13-Apr-99 10:56:49 +0000                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: "josh price" <chiphi7@mindspring.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                     
To: <dmcnews@world.std.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
Subject: spell checker                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:12:36 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I remember a discussion awhile back on the proper spelling of DeLorean, =                                                                                                                                                                       
with or without a space, etc.  To my surprise, the spell checker on Word =                                                                                                                                                                      
97 actually recognized the name, without the space between the e&L.  I =                                                                                                                                                                        
just sort of found that interesting...                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I would like to hear about anyone who has used the storage space behind =                                                                                                                                                                       
the driver's seat as a subwoofer enclosure.  What mods did you have to =                                                                                                                                                                        
make?  Did you put baffles in it?  Were you able to fit a 10" speaker on =                                                                                                                                                                      
it?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Thanks,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Josh Price                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
VIN 10242                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] [admin] eGroups and other miscellaneous information                                                                                                                                                                              
Date: 13-Apr-99 11:08:12 +0000                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Please send all postings to - dmcnews@egroups.com - the old address will                                                                                                                                                                        
go away later this week and any messages sent to it will be lost forever.                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
The transition to eGroups is coming along nicely. Either by eGroups                                                                                                                                                                             
design or an error on my part, each former DeLorean Mailing List                                                                                                                                                                                
subscriber must approve the fact that I automatically added them to the                                                                                                                                                                         
new list. To date, 166 of some 1300 have done so. If you know any DML'ers                                                                                                                                                                       
that have not returned their confirmation, you may want to encourage them                                                                                                                                                                       
to do so that they can continue receiving the new and improved DML.                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
A few folks have mentioned that they find the advertising placed at the                                                                                                                                                                         
end of each message to be annoying. In my efforts to please all the                                                                                                                                                                             
people, all the time, I have changed the format of the eGroups DeLorean                                                                                                                                                                         
Mailing List to a "no-ads" style list. This will probably take a few days                                                                                                                                                                       
to take effectasI had to send them a check and they have to process it                                                                                                                                                                          
yet.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
James Espey                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: DSONTOS@SMTP (David Sontos) {dsontos@sybercom.net}                                                                                                                                                                                        
Subject: [DML] Hesitation when cold                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Date: 13-Apr-99 19:35:16 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I know this has been posted before but I couldn't get into the archieves                                                                                                                                                                        
to search for it. (URL Not Found)                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
When I first start the car cold it takes several tries before it will                                                                                                                                                                           
idle. It will catch right away then die. After several attempts it will                                                                                                                                                                         
grudgingly idle. If I try to drive it the car will die or cough and                                                                                                                                                                             
backfire. If I let it idle for three or four minutes it runs fine and                                                                                                                                                                           
accelerates fine. Whats not working in those first couple of minutes????                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Dave Sontos                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
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Subject: [DML] 2 DMC's spotted in CT in one day                                                                                                                                                                                                 
Date: 13-Apr-99 21:50:51 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
First time poster.  Havent seen a D in close to a year on the road, and it                                                                                                                                                                      
was in florida.  Anyways im driving home and I pass by a small foirgn car                                                                                                                                                                       
delearship Manchester, CT , and sitting there in the showroom was an 81 i                                                                                                                                                                       
think with the hood lines and the gas flap.  It seemed to be getting worked                                                                                                                                                                     
on as it was leeking somthing out the engine compartment and the interior had                                                                                                                                                                   
a few large boxes and there were scattered parts around it.   Im heading over                                                                                                                                                                   
tomarrow to get a quote and take a closer look on it.  And so im off later on                                                                                                                                                                   
to the local circut city to pick up new car speakers and sitting there in the                                                                                                                                                                   
lot right as I pull up is an 83, no flap no lines.  this one was in perfect                                                                                                                                                                     
condition.  As i was leaving it was pulling out and it sounded perfect to me.                                                                                                                                                                   
 If the owner of that car is on this group send me a mail so I can ask where                                                                                                                                                                    
you get your service done in CT.  Anyways  it was and odd coincidence to see                                                                                                                                                                    
2 on one day no less than 2 hours apart.  Hopefully I can work out somthing                                                                                                                                                                     
with this dealer and my college, who doenst allow cars on campus if it would                                                                                                                                                                    
be feasable to look into the car for sale deeper.  Will post update on the D                                                                                                                                                                    
for sale with VIN and other info.  BTW the one for sale other stuff i can                                                                                                                                                                       
tell about it is that it was a black interior and a 5 spd.                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Dan Gompper                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
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Subject: [DML] Re:fuel problem and poor acceleration                                                                                                                                                                                            
Date: 13-Apr-99 23:29:51 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
A while ago I posted my problems about a fuel problem and poor                                                                                                                                                                                  
acceleration. This is to thank those who offered support and inform all                                                                                                                                                                         
of the resolution.                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
The fuel problem came from a malfunctioning warm-up regulator, something                                                                                                                                                                        
I have never seen anyone write about. For some reason, someone                                                                                                                                                                                  
previously had the wires backwards and burned the unit up.  This reduced                                                                                                                                                                        
fuel pressure and although the car would run at times, it was not                                                                                                                                                                               
consistant.  After obtaining a rebuilt one it runs perfectly. The                                                                                                                                                                               
limited acceleration came from a bent accelerator shaft(?).  Apparently                                                                                                                                                                         
when the cable was cold, strong foot pressure bent this.  A simple                                                                                                                                                                              
bending it up for more pedal solved it.                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I recommend anyone having fuel problems take it to a Volvo dealer or a                                                                                                                                                                          
shop that works on Volvos and have it pressure tested.  It took a few                                                                                                                                                                           
minutes to diagnose and one week to get the part. They know these motors                                                                                                                                                                        
well.  If you have need of a small shop in Western Pa., let me know.                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: EBRANDON@SMTP (E. Brandon) {ebrandon@ford.com}                                                                                                                                                                                            
Subject: [DML] On the Road Again.                                                                                                                                                                                                               
Date: 14-Apr-99 10:54:05 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
TO:DMCNEWS@EGROUPS.COM                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
My "D" had been sitting for 10 years in a barn in West Tennessee. I happen to                                                                                                                                                                   
run across the list in December of last year. At first I sat back and read                                                                                                                                                                      
each posting learning more everyday. I finally posted a few questions and the                                                                                                                                                                   
response was great. I found there were two fellow owners here in Nashville.                                                                                                                                                                     
One was willing to let me use his trailor at no cost before I had even met                                                                                                                                                                      
him. After learning who worked on the cars I planned a trip to DMCJOE in                                                                                                                                                                        
Atlanta.I borrowed the trailor and went to pickup this car that had not moved                                                                                                                                                                   
in over 10 years. After putting some new shoes on the car I pulled it out of                                                                                                                                                                    
barn, and to my surprise it didn't look half bad. I took the car to Atlanta                                                                                                                                                                     
and dropped it off. Keep in mind the car had gas in the tank and the driver's                                                                                                                                                                   
side window was down when it was parked for the last time, so I had to replace                                                                                                                                                                  
some of the interior and most of the fuel system. Well one month and a little                                                                                                                                                                   
over $9,000 later the car was ready.My dad and I went last weekend picked it u                                                                                                                                                                  
p and drove it home. I had forgotten how cool these cars look on the road. We                                                                                                                                                                   
got stuck in a traffic jam for two hours and the "D" did just fine! Anyway I                                                                                                                                                                    
just wanted to thank everyone-James for the list, Bruce for the trailor,Travis                                                                                                                                                                  
& Ken for the info.,DMCJOE for the work, and Houston & Rob for the parts. In                                                                                                                                                                    
my opinion, I think this is what this list is all about.                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Regards,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
Kirk Brandon                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
Internal Control Office 540 A                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
(EBRANDON@FORD.COM)-Ext.56992                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: MAGRIESE@SMTP {magriese@us.ibm.com}                                                                                                                                                                                                       
Subject: [DML] Re: Turned Over Car                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Date: 14-Apr-99 12:07:14 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Some thoughts for Claire.                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Mechanically the car is probably no worse off than                                                                                                                                                                                              
before the event.  Rolling a car by hand is also                                                                                                                                                                                                
not likely to twist the frame or otherwise misalign                                                                                                                                                                                             
the body, but there may be some suspension                                                                                                                                                                                                      
problems depending on how rough the crowd was.                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
The fact that the doors still work is a good sign.  Aside                                                                                                                                                                                       
from the obvious cosmetic damage to the body panels                                                                                                                                                                                             
and the doors you should examine the spring perches,                                                                                                                                                                                            
shock absorber attachment points, trailing arms, rear                                                                                                                                                                                           
half-shafts, front rod ends, rack boots, and the upper                                                                                                                                                                                          
frame supports.  These may have become damaged                                                                                                                                                                                                  
as the car was rolled over (if it was bounced around                                                                                                                                                                                            
a lot) or when it was set right (depending on how careful                                                                                                                                                                                       
the towing service was).                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
The engine oil most likely leaked all over the                                                                                                                                                                                                  
engine compartment while the car was upside down                                                                                                                                                                                                
so make sure you check fluid levels before starting                                                                                                                                                                                             
the car.  Check the battery compartment for spilled                                                                                                                                                                                             
battery acid and clean it up immediately with some                                                                                                                                                                                              
baking soda and water.  The baking soda will neutralize                                                                                                                                                                                         
the acid.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Check brake and clutch fluid levels (under the rubber                                                                                                                                                                                           
plugs in the front boot) or transmission fluid if it                                                                                                                                                                                            
is an automatic.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Check the coolant level.  The system is supposed                                                                                                                                                                                                
to be sealed, but if it isn't there is likely some                                                                                                                                                                                              
fluid that has leaked out.                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Check the relay compartment behind the passenger                                                                                                                                                                                                
seat and the engine control modules behind the                                                                                                                                                                                                  
driver's seat.  Some of the relays or connectors may                                                                                                                                                                                            
have come loose during the roll.                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I'm really sorry to hear this happened.  I hope the                                                                                                                                                                                             
people responsible are able to be identified from                                                                                                                                                                                               
the pictures and are held accountable.  If you                                                                                                                                                                                                  
need any other help, please let me know.                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Michael A. Griese                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
Storage Software Development Manager                                                                                                                                                                                                            
IBM Storage Systems Division                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
Rochester, MN  55901                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Internet: magriese@us.ibm.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
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From: JDSJLV@SMTP {Jdsjlv@aol.com}                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Reply-to: JDSJLV @ SMTP {Jdsjlv@aol.com}                                                                                                                                                                                                        
Subject: [DML] Poor performance in the rain-HELP!                                                                                                                                                                                               
Date: 14-Apr-99 13:13:03 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
	I'm having a problem with my D in the rain. When I'm drivingin the                                                                                                                                                                             
rain, either on the highway or backroads, my car will begin to buck and                                                                                                                                                                         
hesitate. If I try to accelerate, it does the same thing. The only way I can                                                                                                                                                                    
get good acceleration is by downshifting. When I downshift from third to                                                                                                                                                                        
second, I must wait until I reach 3500 RPM for the power to come online,                                                                                                                                                                        
though this holds true for each gear. This will usually last for about 30-45                                                                                                                                                                    
min worth of highway driving, then it clears up, but starts again after a                                                                                                                                                                       
while.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
	Does anyone know what might be wrong with it? Has anyone ever had                                                                                                                                                                              
this problem before? Is it possible that it has something to do with either                                                                                                                                                                     
bad plugs, wires, cap or rotor (they were all changed 20,000 miles ago)? Any                                                                                                                                                                    
advice wouls be appreciated. You can e-mail me at: jdsjlv@aol.com.                                                                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Thanks,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Joshua Schwartz                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
001292                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Trumbull,CT                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
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From: JETTRINK@SMTP (Cheryl Classick) {jettrink@TSO.Cin.IX.Net}                                                                                                                                                                                 
Subject: [DML] John Delorean                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
Date: 14-Apr-99 13:49:55 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Does anyone know what happened to his house that was                                                                                                                                                                                            
supposed to be auctioned off? Where is he now if he had                                                                                                                                                                                         
to give up the house?                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: ESPEY@SMTP (James Espey) {espey@dmcnews.com}                                                                                                                                                                                              
Subject: [DML] Johnny Lightning cars in Memphis area                                                                                                                                                                                            
Date: 14-Apr-99 18:56:25 +0000                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: JCox4001@aol.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:54:46 EDT                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Subject: Johnny Lightning cars in Memphis area                                                                                                                                                                                                  
To: dmcnews-digest@world.std.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I just wanted to let everyone know that the Memphis Area Wal-Mart                                                                                                                                                                               
Supercenters have the Johnny Lightning "Hollywood on Wheels" series in                                                                                                                                                                          
large                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
numbers, including the De Lorean.  I will be happy to round up the                                                                                                                                                                              
telephone                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
numbers for these five stores if anyone is interested.  They sell for                                                                                                                                                                           
$3.96,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
instead of the "over $10.00 rate on e-bay.                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Jeff                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
JCox4001@aol.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: MSUBSTEL@SMTP (Mike Substelny) {msubstel@lorainccc.edu}                                                                                                                                                                                   
Subject: [DML] Re: DML: Turned Over Car                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Date: 14-Apr-99 15:20:03 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
This is a real shame.  I can see a rowdy mob "accidentally" turning over                                                                                                                                                                        
a minivan, but to flip over a DeLorean takes a lot of deliberate                                                                                                                                                                                
effort.  Idiots.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
On the bright side, consider that it could have been worse.  The car                                                                                                                                                                            
could have been an early 80s Corvette, which surely would have had                                                                                                                                                                              
significant paint damage and cracks in the fiberglass body.  If the                                                                                                                                                                             
DeLorean's doors still work, then perhaps the stainless body was stiff                                                                                                                                                                          
enough to withstand the bending forces that would have hurt the                                                                                                                                                                                 
Corvette.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
The owner seemed to be seeking a close service facility.  If anyone is                                                                                                                                                                          
in contact with her, please point out that Bauerle Automotive is only                                                                                                                                                                           
about 4-5 hours away from East Lansing, in Central Ohio.  The phone                                                                                                                                                                             
number is (740) 595-3348.                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
- Mike Substelny                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: LOVDMC12@SMTP {LovDMC12@aol.com}                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Reply-to: LOVDMC12 @ SMTP {LovDMC12@aol.com}                                                                                                                                                                                                    
Subject: [DML] Looking for build date                                                                                                                                                                                                           
Date: 14-Apr-99 16:24:41 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I was interested in knowing the exact day my DeLorean rolled off the assembly                                                                                                                                                                   
line in Dunmurry to be shipped to the states and which QAC it went through                                                                                                                                                                      
before hitting the dealer's showroom.  The panel on the driver's door says it                                                                                                                                                                   
was built in May, 1981.  I know that you can get exact dates from the Big                                                                                                                                                                       
Three (or is it Big Two now?).  Is this information still available to us                                                                                                                                                                       
since DMC is no longer operating?  I'd appreciate any help or advice anyone                                                                                                                                                                     
has.  I want to know as much about my DeLorean as I can.                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
You can email me privately at   LovDMC12@aol.com                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Thanks.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Brian                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
VIN 1597                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: AT88MPH@SMTP (Duke) {at88mph@mobis.com}                                                                                                                                                                                                   
Reply-to: AT88MPH @ SMTP ("Duke") {at88mph@mobis.com}                                                                                                                                                                                           
Subject: [DML] Re: Poor performance in the rain-HELP!                                                                                                                                                                                           
Date: 14-Apr-99 15:32:58 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Joshua,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Try getting some spark plug wire sealant.  I had the same problem myself                                                                                                                                                                        
(even happened when I would wash the car) and sprayed some of this on the                                                                                                                                                                       
boot and inserted it in the well.  I haven't had any problems since.                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Hope this helps,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Duke                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
www.geocities.com/motorcity/8952/delorean.html   [updated 4-13-99]                                                                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: Jdsjlv@aol.com <Jdsjlv@aol.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                           
To: dmcnews@egroups.com <dmcnews@egroups.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                   
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 12:19 PM                                                                                                                                                                                                        
Subject: [DML] Poor performance in the rain-HELP!                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> I'm having a problem with my D in the rain. When I'm drivingin the                                                                                                                                                                            
>rain, either on the highway or backroads, my car will begin to buck and                                                                                                                                                                        
>hesitate. If I try to accelerate, it does the same thing.                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: TODD@SMTP {todd.saylor@bi-tech.com}                                                                                                                                                                                                       
Subject: [DML] Northern California service facility                                                                                                                                                                                             
Date: 14-Apr-99 21:54:15 +0000                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
In-reply-to: <>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I'm looking for a recommendation for a good DeLorean service facility in the general area of Fairfield, CA.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks!                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: MIKE0306@SMTP {Mike03062@aol.com}                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Reply-to: MIKE0306 @ SMTP {Mike03062@aol.com}                                                                                                                                                                                                   
Subject: [DML] DeLorean Prices                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Date: 14-Apr-99 18:08:18 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
To answer Guillaume Morel's Question, I have seen DeLoreans in various places                                                                                                                                                                   
selling in the range of $10,000 to $25,000 (US). There is one on Ebay for                                                                                                                                                                       
$32,000. The price generally reflects the normal collector car items  ie                                                                                                                                                                        
condition, mileage, DeLorean upgrades, Turbos, etc.  Once in a while I see a                                                                                                                                                                    
bargain "D" but be wary of cheap ones, A barn find not used in years could                                                                                                                                                                      
easily cost 5-6K just to make it roadworthy.  My advice is to download the                                                                                                                                                                      
Check list from DMC Houston's Web site, read this digest, and search the                                                                                                                                                                        
archives before buying. There were some 8500 or so made and the USA was the                                                                                                                                                                     
major market.  Good  Luck.                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
DM Drake                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: LSOASEY@SMTP {lsoasey@ichips.intel.com}                                                                                                                                                                                                   
Subject: [DML] Re: Poor performance in the rain-HELP!                                                                                                                                                                                           
Date: 14-Apr-99 22:37:54 +0000                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
In-reply-to: <6D8953F>.2446269f                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Joshua,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
  I had nearly the same problem with my 81 a couple months ago.  After quite a bit of trial and error it turned out to be as simple as a bad cap and rotor.  The only problem is that the cap is hard to get to for a quick inspection.  There a
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
-Luke Soasey                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
 <6d8953f.2446269-@aol.com> wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=18                                                                                                                                                                                 
> 	I'm having a problem with my D in the rain. When I'm drivingin the                                                                                                                                                                           
> rain, either on the highway or backroads, my car will begin to buck and                                                                                                                                                                       
> hesitate. If I try to accelerate, it does the same thing. The only way I can                                                                                                                                                                  
> get good acceleration is by downshifting. When I downshift from third to                                                                                                                                                                      
> second, I must wait until I reach 3500 RPM for the power to come online,                                                                                                                                                                      
> though this holds true for each gear. This will usually last for about 30-45                                                                                                                                                                  
> min worth of highway driving, then it clears up, but starts again after a                                                                                                                                                                     
> while.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
> 	Does anyone know what might be wrong with it? Has anyone ever had                                                                                                                                                                            
> this problem before? Is it possible that it has something to do with either                                                                                                                                                                   
> bad plugs, wires, cap or rotor (they were all changed 20,000 miles ago)? Any                                                                                                                                                                  
> advice wouls be appreciated. You can e-mail me at: jdsjlv@aol.com.                                                                                                                                                                            
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Thanks,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> Joshua Schwartz                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
> 001292                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
> Trumbull,CT                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
> P.S. Is anyone on the list from CT?                                                                                                                                                                                                           
>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: TOMCIODM@SMTP (Tom Niemczewski) {tomciodmc@usa.net}                                                                                                                                                                                       
Reply-to: TOMCIODM @ SMTP ("Tom Niemczewski") {tomciodmc@usa.net}                                                                                                                                                                               
Subject: [DML] Engine harness                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
Date: 14-Apr-99 19:21:07 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Hello All,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
Does anybody have an engine harness that is not needed anymore? I need one                                                                                                                                                                      
bad. Also I need an ignition coil cover and fuse box cover. If anyone has                                                                                                                                                                       
those parts, please email me at: tomciodmc@usa.net                                                                                                                                                                                              
I also have some parts for sale myself, like: DeLorean engine, crossover                                                                                                                                                                        
pipe, flywheel, muffler, engine mounts and so on.... If anybody is                                                                                                                                                                              
interested, let me know.                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Tom Niemczewski                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
tomciodmc@usa.net                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
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From: DELOREAN@SMTP {Delorean17@aol.com}                                                                                                                                                                                                        
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Subject: [DML] tipped DeLorean pics                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Date: 14-Apr-99 20:39:13 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Hello,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
	I was very disturbed when I heard about the DeLorean that was tipped                                                                                                                                                                           
over at Michigan State.  I went to the site where the pictures of the damage                                                                                                                                                                    
are and I downloaded the picture of the overturned DeLorean.  you can see it                                                                                                                                                                    
at my site at                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
http://www.angelfire.com/mi2/delorean/index2.html                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I recently went to look at a 81 DeLorean for sale that had interior fire                                                                                                                                                                        
damage.  It had 27,000 miles on it but the inside was totally ruined.  The                                                                                                                                                                      
man man wanted $7,500 for the car. I would have to replace the dash, seats,                                                                                                                                                                     
windshield,passenger side door and all interior carpet.  I thought $7,500 was                                                                                                                                                                   
a little steep for how much it needed.  The body was in perfect shape except                                                                                                                                                                    
the passenger door would not open.  Is this a good deal?                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Thanks for youe time!                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Flipped DMC                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
Date: 14-Apr-99 22:01:40 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Thanks to the party that posted the flipped Delorean on the net. While sad to                                                                                                                                                                   
see that anyone would do this to anyones car. I always look for the postive                                                                                                                                                                     
in any situation, so this would make checking the trailing arm bolts,                                                                                                                                                                           
changing the coolent hoses, and checking the cooling fans a lot easier! Good                                                                                                                                                                    
luck to the owner of this D. Please keep us posted on the damage and more                                                                                                                                                                       
important what parts heald up during this strange turn of events.                                                                                                                                                                               
Bruce Battles                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
Vin#6569                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] DeLorean Overturn                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Date: 14-Apr-99 22:28:49 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I live right smack dab in the middle of East Lansing and MSU is right outside                                                                                                                                                                   
of my window. The night of the riot was pretty bad for all of us here, a very                                                                                                                                                                   
unnecessary incident. I was fortunate enough to get a glimpse of the                                                                                                                                                                            
overturned DMC at a BP gas station just down the street and get some pics.                                                                                                                                                                      
They will be posted shortly, so I will keep you up to date. (They will be                                                                                                                                                                       
posted at http://members.xoom.com/PipelineRecs/DeLorean.html)  Anyways, when                                                                                                                                                                    
I looked at the DeLorean, it had obviously been overturned and had suffered                                                                                                                                                                     
alot of damage to the stainless and glass. Aside from the passenger's side                                                                                                                                                                      
windshield pillar appearantly "popping" out of place at the base, the                                                                                                                                                                           
structure appears fine. Hopefully with the insurance money the owner could                                                                                                                                                                      
fix up the car to possibly a nicer condition than it had been in the first                                                                                                                                                                      
place. Either way it's an absolute shame and these students should be ashamed                                                                                                                                                                   
of what they have done.                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Just my two cents                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: OEHCS@SMTP (Bob Brandys) {oehcs@flash.net}                                                                                                                                                                                                
Subject: [DML] Re: John Delorean                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Date: 15-Apr-99 8:17:25 +0500                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
John is still in his house.  He is trying to negotiate selling some of                                                                                                                                                                          
the land. and letting him stay in the house.                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: LOVDMC12@SMTP {LovDMC12@aol.com}                                                                                                                                                                                                          
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Subject: [DML] DeLorean merchandise                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Date: 15-Apr-99 12:59:34 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I got a flier in the mail this morning from a company in Sausalito,                                                                                                                                                                             
California advertising merchandise related to the DMC-12.  They're big pitch                                                                                                                                                                    
is for a video that is an interview with JZD and has pictures of the Starfire.                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I've never heard of this company before but am interested in some of the                                                                                                                                                                        
things they have for sale.  However, I am leary of unsolicited                                                                                                                                                                                  
advertisements.  (I still remember the warnings on this list concerning the                                                                                                                                                                     
DeLorean Atari games).  I wanted to know if this company is legitimate or if                                                                                                                                                                    
anyone has done business with them before I send them money and find out I've                                                                                                                                                                   
been taken.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Thanks.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Brian                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
VIN 1597                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] Door Glass Alignment                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Date: 15-Apr-99 15:16:36 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I recently purchased a used D in need of lots of attention.  One of the                                                                                                                                                                         
things I noticed is that the passenger side door glass (the moving part)                                                                                                                                                                        
seems to be misaligned.  It seems to be level, but too far to the rear and                                                                                                                                                                      
leaves a gap along the front edge when in the up position.  I removed the                                                                                                                                                                       
door panel, but didn't see an obvious means of adjusting it.  Also, all the                                                                                                                                                                     
weatherstripping seems to be in place.  Anyone know of a fix?                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Steve                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
VIN 2652 (I think...  I'll have to check.)                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: JETTRINK@SMTP (Cheryl Classick) {jettrink@TSO.Cin.IX.Net}                                                                                                                                                                                 
Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean merchandise                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Date: 15-Apr-99 15:48:38 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I am wondering what the connection is to the Starfire? This                                                                                                                                                                                     
was an Olds car, I think the smallest one they ever made and                                                                                                                                                                                    
has not been in production since the 1980's. What has this to                                                                                                                                                                                   
do with the Delorean?                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: RAYNET@SMTP {raynet@home.net}                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Subject: [DML] The Saga Continues: Radio Wiring and more...                                                                                                                                                                                     
Date: 15-Apr-99 21:01:02 +0000                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
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Here continues the continuing saga of VIN #3705                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
First thanks to all on thier suggestions of the loose steering.  Looks like I will be able to add some shims.  A local front end place feels confident in doing it... (I always cringe when any mechanic says the word confident...)            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
My continuing problems now focus on the engine ... which doesn't run, as I'm not a mechanic I'm not even going to venture a try to fix it myself... Thats what import auto places are for ...  For anyone who wants to venture a guess, when I f
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
In the meantime                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
This weeks project....                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
In the many parts cross reference lists i have never seen a cross for the original factory radio harness.  Anybody out there know if that connector matches up to a connector used in another car, and more importantly, does anyone know the co
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Next Project                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Replace the door seals.  They aren't leaking yet.... but in the condition they are in for the life of me I can't figure out why...  With any luck they won't leak after I'm done.  Any suggestions or things NOT to do would be apprecated.     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Raymond McKay                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
Network Administrator / IT Manager                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Funnybone Interactive                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
VIN # 3705                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: FLUFFY@SMTP (William T Wilson) {fluffy@snurgle.org}                                                                                                                                                                                       
Subject: [DML] Re: The Saga Continues: Radio Wiring and more...                                                                                                                                                                                 
Date: 15-Apr-99 20:36:10 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
In-reply-to: <199904160025>.UAA03067                                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 raynet@home.net wrote:                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> Then the battery stopped charging so I had to keep jumping it... I had                                                                                                                                                                        
> the battery tested, fine, Checked for a charging source... no                                                                                                                                                                                 
> charging... So I had the alternator tested... its fine.  Now heres                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
If your alternator and battery are both in good condition, but the battery                                                                                                                                                                      
nevertheless won't charge, this points to an electrical problem.  First,                                                                                                                                                                        
make sure that your alternator actually is turning when the engine is                                                                                                                                                                           
running (should be simple, just look at it).                                                                                                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
> what happens.  First of all I have to Jump it to do anything (I                                                                                                                                                                               
> suppose I could just take a charger to the batt) When I do it turns                                                                                                                                                                           
> over without the infamous low batt clicking but beyond that doesn't                                                                                                                                                                           
> make an effort to even start... After a while of trying to start it,                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
A serious grounding problem or short circuit could cause this.  You could                                                                                                                                                                       
also be having trouble in the ignition system; check your distributor for                                                                                                                                                                       
proper distributing.                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
That's just a guess.  No guarantees...                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Subject: [DML] DeLorean Wanted                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Date: 16-Apr-99 0:05:21 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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Full-name: DalyFire                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:09:33 EDT                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Subject: DeLorean Wanted                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
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I'm interested in purchasing an Automatic with Grey Interior.                                                                                                                                                                                   
Southern California area if possible.                                                                                                                                                                                                           
Sincerely,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
Bill Daly                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
(661) 946-1290                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: JETTRINK@SMTP (Cheryl Classick) {jettrink@TSO.Cin.IX.Net}                                                                                                                                                                                 
Subject: [DML] Re: Starfires and Deloreans For Sale                                                                                                                                                                                             
Date: 16-Apr-99 9:35:01 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
If you don't believe in Starfires, take a look at those for sale                                                                                                                                                                                
at www.traderonline.com. Many of these were from the 60's, mine                                                                                                                                                                                 
was a 77 coupe. I believe the last ones made were 1980 or 81.                                                                                                                                                                                   
I believe Firestar is the more likely name.                                                                                                                                                                                                     
If you are looking for a Delorean, also check this out, there are                                                                                                                                                                               
12 to 15 for sale there.                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: ESPEY@SMTP (James Espey) {espey@dmcnews.com}                                                                                                                                                                                              
Subject: [DML] Take the Poll!                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
Date: 16-Apr-99 14:17:10 +0000                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
There are only a handful of places to get DeLorean parts, the most                                                                                                                                                                              
commonly known                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
are listed below. This poll will close April 30, 1999. Thanks! ----                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Please select one of the following:                                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
    o Bauerle Automotive, OH                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
    o DeLorean Motor Center, CA                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
    o DeLorean Motor Company, TX                                                                                                                                                                                                                
    o DeLorean One, CA                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
    o PJ Grady, NY                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
    o Specialty Automotive, WA                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
    o Other                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
by going to the following Web form:                                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
     http://www.egroups.com/vote?id=923944638475                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: AT88MPH@SMTP (Duke) {at88mph@mobis.com}                                                                                                                                                                                                   
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Subject: [DML] Re: The Saga Continues: Radio Wiring and more...                                                                                                                                                                                 
Date: 16-Apr-99 9:57:38 -0500                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Raymond,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
It sounds like you have an electrical item draining the battery.  What I                                                                                                                                                                        
would do is pull 1 fuse at a time (starting with the door light fuse #12) to                                                                                                                                                                    
see where the drain is coming from.  Once you remove the fuse and later the                                                                                                                                                                     
car starts, that's where your problem is.                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Hope this helps,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Duke                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: raynet@home.net <raynet@home.net>                                                                                                                                                                                                         
To: dmcnews@egroups.com <dmcnews@egroups.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                   
Date: Thursday, April 15, 1999 7:25 PM                                                                                                                                                                                                          
Subject: [DML] The Saga Continues: Radio Wiring and more...                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
>My continuing problems now focus on the engine ... which doesn't run, as                                                                                                                                                                       
I'm not a mechanic I'm not even going to venture a try to fix it myself...                                                                                                                                                                      
Thats what import auto places are for ...  For anyone who wants to venture a                                                                                                                                                                    
guess, when I first got the car engine ran great... Then the battery stopped                                                                                                                                                                    
charging so I had to keep jumping it... I had the battery tested, fine,                                                                                                                                                                         
Checked for a charging source... no charging... So I had the alternator                                                                                                                                                                         
tested... its fine.  Now heres what happens.  First of all I have to Jump it                                                                                                                                                                    
to do anything (I suppose I could just take a charger to the batt) When I do                                                                                                                                                                    
it turns over without the infamous low batt clicking but beyond that doesn't                                                                                                                                                                    
make an effort to even start... >                                                                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: DELOREAN@SMTP (John Jordan) {delorean1@mindspring.com}                                                                                                                                                                                    
Subject: [DML] electrical problems                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Date: 16-Apr-99 11:39:08 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
hey! group:                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
i also am having a problem with a drain on the battery.                                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
i have disconnected the door lights and tried removing one fuse at a time--then all fuses and still there is drain on the battery;                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
eventually the battery goes dead.--                                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
need help                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>i also am having a problem with a drain on the                                                                                                                                                                  
battery.</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>i have disconnected the door lights and tried                                                                                                                                                                   
removing one fuse at a time--then all fuses and still there is drain on the                                                                                                                                                                     
battery;</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                             
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>eventually the battery goes dead.--</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>need help</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                          
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>thanks</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: EHENNEBU@SMTP (Eric Hennebury) {ehennebury@performconsulting.com}                                                                                                                                                                         
Reply-to: EHENNEBU @ SMTP ("Eric Hennebury") {ehennebury@performconsulting.com}                                                                                                                                                                 
Subject: [DML] Re: Door Glass Alignment                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Date: 16-Apr-99 16:40:02 +0100                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I have not addressed this problem personally, but I know of someone who had                                                                                                                                                                     
the glass removed and re-glued onto its base in order to correct the                                                                                                                                                                            
alignment.  The auto glass  place that performed this job claims that they                                                                                                                                                                      
have seen Deloreans with these alignment problems before.  I have never                                                                                                                                                                         
heard of it myself though.  Good luck,                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Eric                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
VIN #17065                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
>I recently purchased a used D in need of lots of attention.  One of the                                                                                                                                                                        
>things I noticed is that the passenger side door glass (the moving part)                                                                                                                                                                       
>seems to be misaligned.  It seems to be level, but too far to the rear and                                                                                                                                                                     
>leaves a gap along the front edge when in the up position.  I removed the                                                                                                                                                                      
>door panel, but didn't see an obvious means of adjusting it.  Also, all the                                                                                                                                                                    
>weatherstripping seems to be in place.  Anyone know of a fix?                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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From: RADDAD@SMTP (Dick Ryan) {raddad@cmn.net}                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Subject: [DML] Canadian DeLoreans                                                                                                                                                                                                               
Date: 16-Apr-99 16:32:50 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
As one of 5 couples who will be driving their DeLoreans into Canada this                                                                                                                                                                        
August, I would also like to make contact with Canadian DeLorean owners.                                                                                                                                                                        
There will be 5 of us driving our DeLoreans through Banff, Jasper, Calgary,                                                                                                                                                                     
Edmonton (possible), Regina and Winnepeg.  We would love the opportunity to                                                                                                                                                                     
meet other DeLoreans owners along the way.                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
For more details as to route and time, please contact me directly.                                                                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Dick Ryan                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
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Subject: [DML] Canadian DMC group dead? or just missing in action?                                                                                                                                                                              
Date: 16-Apr-99 17:32:43 -0700                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Does anyone online in Canada own a Delorean?  The CDMC's                                                                                                                                                                                        
web page looks great but hasn't been updated in 2 years.                                                                                                                                                                                        
Any idea if this group is active any more?                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I would like to find out some details on Canadian insurance and                                                                                                                                                                                 
part sources (if any).                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Does anyone online in Canada own a Delorean?&nbsp; The                                                                                                                                                                        
CDMC's</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
<DIV><FONT size=2>web page looks great but hasn't been updated in 2                                                                                                                                                                             
years.</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
<DIV><FONT size=2>Any idea if this group is active any more?</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                       
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I would like to find out some details on Canadian insurance                                                                                                                                                                   
and</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
<DIV><FONT size=2>part sources (if any).</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                           
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>                                                                                                                                                                                                           
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Subject: [DML] Re: Door Glass Alignment                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Date: 16-Apr-99 20:47:35 -0400                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
I have the same problem. Think its more rampant than discussed.       





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