From: eGroups Digest [dmcnews@egroups.com] Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 8:42 AM To: David.Swingle Subject: dmcnews digest eGroups Daily Digest: dmcnews has 21 new messages. Click here http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2295 to read them. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 2295. DJRaich@aol.com Re: DMC ABUSE 2296. JIM NIELSEN WI Delorean 2297. dcsj@excite.com Re: door solenoids, auto opening of doors? 2298. Brian Henderlong Re: Custom DMC keychains 2299. DMC Joe Re: Tanks...but no tanks! 2300. raynet@home.net Needed: Driver and Passanger Door Wiring Harness 2301. Gerald Deutsch Re: A/C water leaks 2302. Rich Kula 1981 DeLorean Idle Speed 2303. Iznodmad@aol.com dead delorean 2304. delorean502@excite.com Re: Custom DMC keychains 2305. doris.mondl@lisec.com WG: nearly new deloreans 2306. DMC Joe Re: 1981 DeLorean Idle Speed 2307. Amazinrick@aol.com D repairs in MO 2308. pjgrady@ibm.net Re: door solenoids, auto opening of doors? 2309. DeLorean31@aol.com Re: door solenoids, auto opening of doors? 2310. Martin Gutkowski Lotus Article 2311. Mark Noeltner Re: DMC ABUSE 2312. SteveDMC Re: WG: nearly new deloreans 2313. KayoOng@aol.com Re: door solenoids, auto opening of doors? 2314. Ben Krasnow Re: antenna 2315. Ann & Ed Thompson Re: DMC ABUSE ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 2295 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2295 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DJRaich@aol.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:36:41 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DMC ABUSE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/17/99 7:55:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Ninniez@aol.com writes: << These people who brag that their cars have few miles and have been stored for long periods of time should be shot. Show me a car that has been driven and cared for by someone who stays on top of it's needs, and I'll put my money on it. These so-called low mileage cars tend to need more attention than their selling price will allow >> Boy oh boy will I second, third and fourth this opinion. I bought my D with 10,000 miles from the original owner several years ago. After spending about $3,500 to bring it up to date, I now drive it about 2,500 miles a year and it is a doozie. Drive those babies and they'll purr to you like a kitten. ------------------------------ message 2296 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2296 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: JJNENTERPRISE@webtv.net (JIM NIELSEN) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:18:01 -0500 (CDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Subject: [DML] WI Delorean Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 81 Delorean for sale in Madison, WI. Great shape-does have a crack on the dashboard but will replace if needed. 49,000 miles - ran weekly. Painted red. Owned for 3 years and haven't had any real problems! I just have too many bills. $14,500. I will give more information to any interested parties! ------------------------------ message 2297 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2297 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: dcsj@excite.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 21:59:06 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: door solenoids, auto opening of doors? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gary Has Rob come up with an estimated price yet on this new gee wiz novalty yet how much was the remote lock unit, your typical zilla pricing of $200+ . Don't get me wrong these zilla products have proven to be bullet proof and I'm glad he has made the effort to develope them . When you consider the cost of the simple componantry inside, relatively inexpensive that is. Its sometimes hard to justify the high price , of course I know there is more to it than that. The units are great I just wish the price was more affordable. I guess I,m just to used to inexpense asian built electronics, oh well Dennis On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:08:34 EDT, DeLorean31@aol.com wrote: > I just had the remote door lock opening module installed by PJ Grady along > with the Lockzilla module which you need for this new system. It works > great. The remote door opening and trunk options are not out yet. He is > still working out the final bugs with them. The remote door locks are nice. > There is a remote door lock unit that goes on your keyring like an alarm > remote you see on many cars today. It has the DMC logo and the Zilla logo. > It also has the buttons for the door opening and trunk option for when it > becomes available. I cant wait to add these to my car. Rob showed me the > prototype system he has on his green car and how it opens the doors > automatically. It looks reall cool. > > Gary Gore > Activities Director > DeLorean Mid Atlantic > VIN 3360 > http://hometown.aol.com/DeLorean31/dma.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > ________________________________________________________________ Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com ------------------------------ message 2298 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2298 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:18:46 -0400 From: Brian Henderlong Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Custom DMC keychains Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Dore wrote: >I'd like to inform the DML that I am selling custom made DeLorean keychains >and airvalve caps on my website, John's Irish DeLorean Webpage. >These are the only DeLorean keychains available anywhere in the world, so >please take some time to check them out!! Yes, a guy on the Impala SS mailing list recently started selling these items, too -- see < http://members.zdial.com/~klr94ss/logocaps.htm > for reference. Apparently the DMC keychains and valve stem caps John is offering are made by the same company the Impala SS guy gets his from, because they look identical... the company is called Logocaps -- < http://www.logonuts.com/prod.html > -- and they can put any logo on items like valve caps, etc. One of the packages they offer contains that same wrench/keychain and the same set of four valve stem caps. So it appears that John is brokering these items, i.e., he has bought them and is reselling them. Depending on how many sets he ordered, he could give a pretty good deal on them -- the Impala SS guy gets a darn good discount for his list! Enjoy, Brian Henderlong / Tampa, FL / NAISSO# 3807 / 1995 DGGM Impala SS mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm ------------------------------ message 2299 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2299 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:44:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Tanks...but no tanks! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Your problem is in the fuel enrichment circuit. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- From: Mr. Copies To: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Tanks...but no tanks! Date: Saturday, August 14, 1999 7:19 PM Contaminated Gas?? I just bought a Delorean in May....the more I restore it the more I want to throttle the previous owner! (but that's another post). Today's problem. Ever since I've gotten it - the car runs really rough when you accelerate. It also takes more than a few tries to get started then runs rough and seems to smooth out a bit a few minutes later...but NEVER runs like it should. The car did sit for a looong time prior to me buying it. (my guess is anywhere from 6 months to 2 years) The car improved slightly when we used a fuel injector cleaner in the gas...All I've done since I've bought it is throw half a tank of premium in it and the injector cleaner. It's never been driven more than a few miles since I've brought it home. Today I got daring and decided to tackle the gas tank. I opened up the tank and everything looked fine. The fuel pump cover seal is all warped (needs replacing) but everything else looked fine (fuel pump, hoses, baffle, etc..). I siphoned out the gas. The gas was a really dark apple juice color...didn't notice any sludgey deposits...but not sure what to look for. Especially not sure what to look for on the baffle. Any thoughts on what I should do now? Need some help from someone who's been there done that. Thanks mike@mrcopies.com VIN#17089 windsor, ontario canada (right next to Detroit Michigan) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 2300 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2300 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 06:33:32 -0700 From: raynet@home.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Needed: Driver and Passanger Door Wiring Harness Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As usual before I go to the parts dealers, I like to give the D community a chance to get rid of excess parts they may have lying around.

Today I'm looking for the following 4 items
Drivers Side Door Wiring Harness
Passangers Side Door Wiring Harness
Defrost switch
Passangers side window track /w gear... I DON'T need the motor just the track and gears.

Please email me privately at raymcka y@home.net

Thanks

Raymond McKay
------------------------------ message 2301 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2301 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Gerald Deutsch" Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:24:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: A/C water leaks Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0099_01BEEA2D.0813DD20" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01BEEA2D.0813DD20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I had a problem with a fuse blowing that controlled the dash and tailights.= It turned out that one of the wires that go to liscence plate lights, had = broken off, and was flopping around back there. From time to time it would = make contact with something metal which caused the fuse to blow. So, after = I found it, I just spliced a new connector on and reconnected it to the lig= ht fixture and I've had no problems since! ---Dan -----Original Message----- From: Michael R Dixon To: dmcnews@egroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 11:23 AM Subject: [DML] A/C water leaks = = My A/C is leaking water from the evaporator box all over the passenger = carpet. Is ther a way to clean out the drain line without tearing apart th= e evaporator box? I believe the drain line goes out somewhere under the fl= oor pan but inside the frame enclosure. = Also has any body had problems with courtesy light fuse blowing? The = fuse just blew one day and now I can't find the cause. = ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= - = To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address mo= derato-@dmcnews.com = ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01BEEA2D.0813DD20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
I had a problem with a fuse blowing tha= t = controlled the dash and tailights. It turned out that one of the wires that= go = to liscence plate lights, had broken off, and was flopping around back ther= e. = From time to time it would make contact with something metal which caused t= he = fuse to blow. So, after I found it, I just spliced a new connector on and = reconnected it to the light fixture and I've had no problems since! = ---Dan
-----Original Message-----
<= B>From: = Michael R Dixon <INVESTMENT@SUNNET.NET>
= To: = dmcnews@egroups.com <= dmcnews@egroups.com>
D= ate: = Wednesday, August 18, 1999 11:23 AM
Subject: [DML] A/C wa= ter = leaks

My A/C is leaking water from the ev= aporator = box all over the passenger carpet.  Is ther a way to clean out the= = drain line without tearing apart the evaporator box?  I believe th= e = drain line goes out somewhere under the floor pan but inside the frame = enclosure.
 
Also has any body had problems with= courtesy = light fuse blowing?   The fuse just blew one day and now I ca= n't = find the cause.
To address comments privately to the moderating team, = please address moderato-@dmcnews.com =
------=_NextPart_000_0099_01BEEA2D.0813DD20-- ------------------------------ message 2302 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2302 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Rich Kula Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:11:21 -0400 Subject: [DML] 1981 DeLorean Idle Speed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear DMCNews, I recently purchased a turbo 1981 DeLorean VIN # 1460 with 30k miles. I am also a member of the DeLorean Owners Association Member number 5624. At times the idle speed runs high. This is less prominent with the AC on. Normally the idle speed is around 1000 but at times it runs in the 1200-1300 range and as high as 1500. When I stop at a light or sign I need to rev the accelerator up slightly and it returns to around 1000 rpm's. Sometimes it resets itself down with a "clicking" noise coming from the rear right of the cockpit. There is also a click occasionally from the dash but I cannot pin down what is causing it. Any direction would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time and effort. Sincerely, Richard Kula Richard Kula Richard Kula Senior Consultant Landrum & Brown 1021 West Adams Suite 200 Chicago, IL 60607 (312) 491-4259 - Direct Line (312) 421-6171 - Fax Line RKula@Landrum-Brown.com - E-mail ------------------------------ message 2303 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2303 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Iznodmad@aol.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:19:20 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] dead delorean Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have some good news and bad news. I took the car this morning to Mock Tire to have a spin balance. I made a terrible mistake and didn't stay with the car. Don't get me wrong, they did great work and the steering wheel has zero shake in it now, and the price was just $18. Here is the bad thing though. I got it home, pulled in the driveway, and shut off the engine. Went inside the house for a few minutes, came back out to pull the car into the garage. Turned the key and "ka-blam" or some loud pop came from somewhere in the back accompanied by some smoke from the engine! The engine turns over, but the engine will not run. HELP! I called DMC Joe, and he gave me some leads, but I still can't figure it out. It has something to do with the starter and it's relays and such. I will be at work tonight until 9, so I will be giving you a call later on. Thanks, Darren ------------------------------ message 2304 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2304 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:24:01 -0700 From: delorean502@excite.com In-Reply-To: <19990819030129.84573.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Custom DMC keychains Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just wanted to tell john that he has a great website! if anybody out there has not gone to visit it yet, please do so. also, john...when are you going to load more pictures up? thanks again! ------------------------------ message 2305 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2305 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: doris.mondl@lisec.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:24:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] WG: nearly new deloreans Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit a friend of mine wants to buy a delorean. so i want to know if there are any nearly new deloreans on the street. and one wants to sell his in the future. ------------------------------ message 2306 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2306 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:41:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: 1981 DeLorean Idle Speed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich, With the engine turned off have an assistant slightly press and release the accelerator pedal while you are listening in the engine compartment. You should hear a mechanical "click" as the pedal is operated. This sound means the Idle Speed Microswitch is operating normally. If the "click is intermittent you may have a sticky or miss-adjusted throttle linkage. This will cause the idle speed problem you have described. Go to D:05:02 in the Workshop Manual for a complete explanation and diagrams of the proper operation of this system. If you don't have this information or have further inquires contact us directly. For a quicker reply go to the "HELP" page at our web-site and send your request to DMC Joe. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: Rich Kula > To: 'dmcnews@egroups.com' > Subject: [DML] 1981 DeLorean Idle Speed > Date: Thursday, August 19, 1999 11:11 AM > > Dear DMCNews, > > I recently purchased a turbo 1981 DeLorean VIN # 1460 with 30k miles. I am also a member of the DeLorean Owners Association Member number 5624. > > At times the idle speed runs high. This is less prominent with the AC on. Normally the idle speed is around 1000 but at times it runs in the 1200-1300 range and as high as 1500. When I stop at a light or sign I need to rev the accelerator up slightly and it returns to around 1000 rpm's. Sometimes it resets itself down with a "clicking" noise coming from the rear right of the cockpit. There is also a click occasionally from the dash but I cannot pin down what is causing it. > > Any direction would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time and effort. > > Sincerely, > > Richard Kula > > Richard Kula > > Richard Kula > Senior Consultant > Landrum & Brown > 1021 West Adams Suite 200 > Chicago, IL 60607 > (312) 491-4259 - Direct Line > (312) 421-6171 - Fax Line > RKula@Landrum-Brown.com - E-mail > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > ------------------------------ message 2307 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2307 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Amazinrick@aol.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:56:33 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] D repairs in MO Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi -- am looking into purchasing a D in Missouri, to bring to New Jersey. Can you recommend any capable DeLorean mechanics in the mid-Missouri area? The car has been used as a daily driver until last Fall. Has about 40,000 miles estimated... bad odometer. Can be driven to St. Louis or Kansas City, but I hate to drive halfway across the country at highway speeds in an un-checked car. Especially since I haven't touched a stick shift in 10 years. (And that was a pretty rough experience in a rented car in England.) I have driven cross country twice, but that was in a Neon, with a co-driver. Anything in particular I should have the mechanic take a look at? Any particular hazards to avoid? Any other comments? Like, am I crazy? Maybe! I figure I'll leave the car with the mechanic to work on then fly back a few weeks later to collect it. ---- waernst@aol.com ------------------------------ message 2308 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2308 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: pjgrady@ibm.net Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:07:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <37BA4C15.2462A5CE@brit.ca> Subject: [DML] Re: door solenoids, auto opening of doors? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit J.D. Robbins wrote: > > Curiously enough, my delorean has a car alarm with relays already wired > into the doors which would allow me to pop either door from my remote > control. > > The problem is this: the door opening solenoids used by the alarm > installer were not strong enough to pull the door handle from inside the > door mechanism. I can unlock the doors from my remote control, but I > cannot open the doors as I cannot locate a source for door (or trunk) > release solenoids that are strong enough to do the job. > > Could anyone possibly direct me to door solenoids that would be stong > enough and would mount without much trouble inside the doors? I'm > assuming somebody has found one if there is a door opening module for > lockzilla. > > If you could reply to the dmc list and to jrobbins@brit.ca personally, > it would be appreciated. > > Best regards, > > J > -- > J.D. Robbins > Project Lead, > BRIT Inc. http://www.brit.ca > BBCanada Inc. http://www.bbcanada.com > - Moral Support: Joe Pillow & The Dancing Fools - > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com Hi JD, This is jamie, As far as the sol's are concerned we do have them but you would need the mounting brackets and instructions to install it properly. We have not yet come out with the brackets for sale but if you want to give Rob a call to see about getting just the sol's feel free to do so. Thank You ------------------------------ message 2309 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2309 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DeLorean31@aol.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:22:55 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: door solenoids, auto opening of doors? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes Rob spends alot of time and money to develop the products. The new system works nice. The Lockzilla module has now been fitted with a plug for the new door unlock module. So if you buy a Lockzilla, which you need for this system anyway, then you can plug it right in. The module for remote unlocking of the doors which comes with two key ring remotes is 159.00 The remote door opening add on will be higher as it involves mecagnisms inside the door to open them by remote. I am not sure of the price but give Rob a call I am sure he will be happy to talk to you about it. Thanks for the email Gary ------------------------------ message 2310 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2310 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:22:42 +0100 From: Martin Gutkowski MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Lotus Article Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Thought you might be interested in the article on the following link - I was interested in how the mechanicals of the Lotus Esprit parallelled the DeLorean. It is an interesting article, but be warned, the final paragraph will make your blood boil! http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/_classcar/_highlights/esprit.html BTW, AFAIK this magazine no-longer exists on newsstands over here. Martin ------------------------------ message 2311 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2311 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:22:00 -0500 From: Mark Noeltner In-Reply-To: <8e895793.24eb69df@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DMC ABUSE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 09:43 PM 8/17/99 EDT, you wrote: > I am not arguing that the DeLorean can't be made into a great and >reliable car, but that takes lots of time and MONEY. These people who brag >that their cars have few miles and have been stored for long periods of time >should be shot. Show me a car that has been driven and cared for by someone >who stays on top of it's needs, and I'll put my money on it. These so-called >low mileage cars tend to need more attention than their selling price will >allow. I don't fully agree. Or, in other words there's an exception to every rule!! My wife and I just bought an 81 with just 3500 miles on it (speedo works and the rest of the car confirms the low mileage). The previous owner stored it VERY well and the ONLY thing we have had to do the car mechanically is to replace the fuel pump after I inadvertantly ran the car out of gas. Now, I'm not disagreeing with you altogether. A constantly driven car will usually be a better, more reliable car to buy. But there are exceptions! Mark N VIN 6820 ------------------------------ message 2312 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2312 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "SteveDMC" References: <6B53B4089EFFD111B3AB00805F0DD5C313FC48@swserv3.lisec.com> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:57:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: WG: nearly new deloreans Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Delorean One sells cars that have been totally refurbished. I would consider one of there cars to be better than a new D because of all the work they do on them to get the cars to new condition. You will also pay a very big price. I believe they sell their new cars for something like $40k right now and the price goes up every year. If you want a car you can drive with confidence the are the way to go. They are probably the only place you can buy a D and drive it with a warantee. ------------------------------ message 2313 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2313 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: KayoOng@aol.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:18:43 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: door solenoids, auto opening of doors? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/19/99 12:08:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dcsj@excite.com writes: << Has Rob come up with an estimated price yet on this new gee wiz novalty yet how much was the remote lock unit, your typical zilla pricing of $200+ . Don't get me wrong these zilla products have proven to be bullet proof and I'm glad he has made the effort to develope them . When you consider the cost of the simple componantry inside, relatively inexpensive that is. Its sometimes hard to justify the high price , of course I know there is more to it than that. The units are great I just wish the price was more affordable. I guess I,m just to used to inexpense asian built electronics, oh well Dennis >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Most exotic, collector cars and cars in general are costly in maintenance. The DeLorean is not too expensive to keep up with in the maintenance or the repair. Remember the DeLorean was in production for three years. There were many problems that haunted the car. Many of these problems has or are being resolved by DeLorean owners and connoisseurs like Rob from PJ Grady with his production of the ZILLA's products. This is only one of his product line that he is manufacturing in resolving the electrical or any other weaknesses of the DeLorean motorcar. There are several other people and companies out there that is offering services and products that they developed to help the DeLorean motorcar and the marque alive. The question is the cost of the materials used? You are right. Materials in "this" case, it is cheap. I do believed that time in researching, experimenting and developing is a cost factor. Their time and "know how" should be compensated for such an excellent product. There is also the cost of insurance for "product liability" that goes along with the product -- the other hidden cost factor too. DON'T BE WIRED FOR FIRE, OR LEARN BY BURN! Their products and know how will help keep the DeLorean motorcars in tip top operation and the prevention of other problems that may arise. I believe if one can afford it, this is the way to go. This is the price to pay to "remedy" these problems of the DeLorean. It is a "small price" to pay for the enjoyment. We all enjoy owning the DeLorean motorcar. If we don't, we will get rid of it? Get stuck once and the price to pay is................................You get the picture? :-( :-( :-( Let me share one other product that he has in the works. I saw it and I want it at the time when I was having the remote installed in my DeLorean three weeks ago. It was not available then, maybe it is now. This product is a STAINLESS STEEL GEAR ANGLE DRIVE. This is another major weakness of the DeLorean. In the last three and a half years I have driven my DeLorean over 45,000 miles and I have replaced "two" angle drive units in my DeLorean. The price to replace another original drive is not the problem. The time and the aggravation to get to Rob's place and to get an appointment is the problem. I am looking for the opportunity to replace this "other " Archille's Heel in the DeLorean. Like his other product's, I know he has engineered and will produce a good product so I am looking forward for a replacement unit. Now is this the worth the fine tea and china? I think so. If anyone out there can produce something "cheaper in price" that is worth while, please let us know. We too can line your pockets to keep the DeLorean motorcar alive and running. :-) :-) :-) Kayo Ong #05508 Lic 9D NY ------------------------------ message 2314 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2314 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:44:55 -0700 From: Ben Krasnow MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <000b01bee5f4$ba50f000$64db8ad1@w-kitty-home> Subject: [DML] Re: antenna Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One time, I accidentaly turned on the radio while I still had the car cover on. (never do this). The antenna tried to go up, but got caught on the cover. It then would go up, but not down anymore (the lowest it would go was about a foot extended). Removing the antenna motor is pretty easy, email me for details. After opening up the motor unit, I found the flexable cable that pushes that mast upwards had broken. Luckily, I had a spare mast, which I put into the motor unit, and since then it has been working perfectly. You're problem may be electrical or mechanical. It is probably mechanical if you hear the motor running, but see no movement in the mast. If you never hear the motor running, try looking at the electrical side of things. Good luck ------------------------------ message 2315 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2315 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:25:57 -0400 From: Ann & Ed Thompson MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: [DML] Re: DMC ABUSE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > DJRaich@aol.com wrote: > > > These so-called low mileage cars tend to need more attention > > than their selling price will allow > > Boy oh boy will I second, third and fourth this opinion. Then how would you explain that those "low mileage" D's ALWAYS command a higher price? Buyers that want top notch cars know that the "low milers" may indeed require some extra attention at first, but the serious buyer/enthusiast also knows that they are by far the best value in the long run. A low mileage car doesn't automatically mean that the car has been just "sitting" for nearly 20 years. I drive mine regularly and I CAN authenticate the mileage of 9,850. That is, on average, roughly two outings a month at about 25 miles each. That is hardly sitting. I am not "bragging" about the low mileage, it's just happens to be a fact! She still "purrs like a kitten" the first time and every time. I also have a boat of about the same vintage that was purchased new about the same time. I would say that the boat has even fewer hours on it than the DeLorean does primarily because it's a seasonal toy and only gets "driven" during 3 or 4 months of the year, and because of my work schedule. She also "purrs like a kitten" the first time and every time and, BTW, she commands an exceptionally high marine survey rating (translates to value) primarily because of the exceptionally low "mileage". I have seen cars and boats of the same vintage that are absolute rags and essentially have NO value. Since 1995 I have donated 3 vehicles (all newer than my DeLorean) to the National Kidney Foundation because they had more value to me as a tax deduction than they did book value which was essentially zero. An exception to this is the DeLorean that will always retain a healthy residual value even if as nothing more than a "parts car", even if would cost more to restore it than its value after restoration. That is to say that a ragged out, worn out DeLorean still has many hard-to-find and valuable parts that are not subject to wear or abuse. Because of that, the worst of abused DeLoreans (short of totaled or burned-out) are worth at least several thousand dollars. That's the low end. The ones you loath are at the other end, and as long as I remain a DeLorean owner that's where I want to be. Regards, Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982) ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- View the full archives, subscribe/unsubscribe, use the group calendar at http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews Manage your subscriptions at http://eGroups.com Free e-mail groups by eGroups.com. 
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