From: eGroups Digest [dmcnews@egroups.com] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 9:47 AM To: David.Swingle Subject: dmcnews digest eGroups Daily Digest: dmcnews has 18 new messages. Click here http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2277 to read them. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 2277. Ann & Ed Thompson Re: antenna 2278. Dave Swingle Re: antenna 2279. Dave Swingle $3000 DMC for sale 2280. SweatyEddy Re: DMC Dealers 2281. J.D. Robbins door solenoids, auto opening of doors? 2282. 101.174325@germanynet.de Re: Fan failure light 2283. AlSiegel@aol.com DeLorean for sale or trade 2284. Jason Perkins Re: D's Book Value 2285. Michael R Dixon A/C water leaks 2286. dswingle@enteract.com Re: $3000 DMC for sale 2287. DeLorean31@aol.com Re: antenna 2288. KayoOng@aol.com Re: door solenoids, auto opening of doors? 2289. DMC Joe House Call Tour # 3 2290. ryan arsenault Video For Jake 2291. phemme@hotmail.com DMC on DVD 2292. Travis Graham Re: A/C water leaks 2293. John Dore Custom DMC keychains 2294. DeLorean31@aol.com Re: door solenoids, auto opening of doors? ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 2277 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2277 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:38:12 -0400 From: Ann & Ed Thompson MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6d26f66c.24eb76fe@aol.com> Subject: [DML] Re: antenna Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Comet42483@aol.com wrote: > > We have an 81 Delorean, with a metal antenna. It has a key to pull it out of > the slot. is it a power antenna or not? Should it be? If it's not metal, it's not an antenna. All antennas, by definition, are metal. Where did you find this "key"? Did it come with the car? What sort of lock does this key fit? If it has a key to pull it out it's not a DeLorean antenna. If it's a DeLorean antenna it should be a power antenna. If it's a DeLorean antenna it should go up when the radio is turned on and down when the radio is turned off. If it's a broken DeLorean antenna it may no longer be a power antenna and may not go up when the radio is turned on or down when the radio is turned off. If it's a broken DeLorean power antenna there is no key to pull it out. If it's a broken DeLorean power antenna there are replacements available. No key required. Regards, Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982) Midlothian, VA ------------------------------ message 2278 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2278 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Dave Swingle" Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:03:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: antenna Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I suspect that this antenna, although you don't say so, is mounted in the right front fender. If so, this is not and was never a power antenna. This key-lift design was a common aftermarket anti-vandalism antenna in the mid-late 70's. I installed a few when I was a stereo installer (in a prior life!). There is no room in the front fender for an antenna motor. Unfortunately one of DMC's not-so-good ideas was to have the dealers install an antenna in the front fender to improve radio reception. Yours may be one of these, or may be a replacement that someone did at a later date. This was just before they went to the power antenna in the left REAR fender. dave ============= From: Comet42483@aol.com We have an 81 Delorean, with a metal antenna. It has a key to pull it out of the slot. is it a power antenna or not? Should it be? Thanks ------------------------------ message 2279 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2279 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Dave Swingle" Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:06:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] $3000 DMC for sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One was just posted to the DMCNews Buy&Sell page for the folks looking for a sub-5 K Delorean. Typical for the price. dave ------------------------------ message 2280 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2280 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "SweatyEddy" References: <2c2d6870.24eb195a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:58:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: DMC Dealers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have seen several D's at dealerships in Northern California, mostly in Contra Costa County. I picked mine up at Fantasy Junction in Emeryville (on consignment). Fantasy Junction is on line (http://www.fantasyjunction.com), although they usually cater to more exotic autos, Ferrari, Lamborghini, MacLauren, Mercedes (gullwings), etc. If nothing else it's a cool place to drop in on just to look, if you are travelling on highway 80 through Berkeley. The guys there are very relaxed and let you browse at your leisure as long as you keep your druel off the cars. -SweatyEddy ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 8:00 PM Subject: [DML] Re: DMC Dealers > Neil Blaze, > > I too have been interested in owing a DeLorean for years. From > the little investigating I have done in northern California, I > believe I once found a dealership with a DeLorean (it might have > been an exotic car dealer, and I don't remember the name...but it > was listed and pictured in a local car for sale magazine, the kind > you pick up at the grocery store). I also found a DeLorean for auction once > (repossession? drug seizure?) at Roger Ernst's auto auctions in > Modesto, CA. (You can check up on which cars they have for auction > at www.rogerernst.com). > > Maybe you should just continually look in local car for sale > magazines or check exotic car dealerships? I'm not sure...MY > question would be whether or not a dealership would ever > _finance_ a car like that. I would have to suspect they probably > wouldn't, but I'm no car expert. :) > > RJR > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > > ------------------------------ message 2281 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2281 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 02:00:53 -0400 From: "J.D. Robbins" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] door solenoids, auto opening of doors? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Curiously enough, my delorean has a car alarm with relays already wired into the doors which would allow me to pop either door from my remote control. The problem is this: the door opening solenoids used by the alarm installer were not strong enough to pull the door handle from inside the door mechanism. I can unlock the doors from my remote control, but I cannot open the doors as I cannot locate a source for door (or trunk) release solenoids that are strong enough to do the job. Could anyone possibly direct me to door solenoids that would be stong enough and would mount without much trouble inside the doors? I'm assuming somebody has found one if there is a door opening module for lockzilla. If you could reply to the dmc list and to jrobbins@brit.ca personally, it would be appreciated. Best regards, J -- J.D. Robbins Project Lead, BRIT Inc. http://www.brit.ca BBCanada Inc. http://www.bbcanada.com - Moral Support: Joe Pillow & The Dancing Fools - ------------------------------ message 2282 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2282 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:42:44 -0700 From: 101.174325@germanynet.de In-Reply-To: <97b2b48c.24ea2257@aol.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Fan failure light Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello dmc friends, the fan fail light up has rather different meanings in the different vehicles. in my delorean the small lamp lights up whenever the fans run, the cooling functioned. I still have the original fan fail module, but new fan engines. greeting ulli, germany, #03857 > My fan failure light stays on when the A/C is on. It doesn't seem to affect > the cooling since the temperature gauge does not go over 200. The two > radiator cooling fans only one is running, the one on the driver side does > not run at all. I do not believe that this was by design, so where should I > look and how do I get that fix? Thanks in advance. > Bill ------------------------------ message 2283 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2283 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: AlSiegel@aol.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:15:35 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DeLorean for sale or trade Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit June1981 DeLorean, black interior, automatic transmission, gas flap, 60,002 miles, crack on dash, other than that, in super condition. Asking 19,000K or best offer. Located in south Florida. I am also willing to take in part trade an Audi 80/90 and or a DEAD (engine or transmission not needed) DeLorean with a good body. I dont care if it is painted or not. Thank you. AlSiegel@aol.com ------------------------------ message 2284 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2284 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Jason Perkins Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:05:22 -0700 Subject: [DML] Re: D's Book Value Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have to agree that these prices are just "ball-park" at best. They clearly do not distinguish between model years (83's are usually more than 81/82's in the same condition) and condition. Perhaps with the release of the few DeLorean movies our cars will start to increase in value more rapidly. However this may come with a price. As the car increases in value, so does insurance, and possibly even parts. So with all this "Catch 22" and pros/cons, I'm just happy to own a car I love and enjoy driving. Jason Perkins #16665 -----Original Message----- From: James Espey [mailto:james@usadmc.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 1:26 PM To: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: D's Book Value DeLorean Motor Company is on the N.A.D.A. Advisory Board serving in area of "Classic, Collectible and Special Interest Cars", which is the book in which the DeLorean is listed. According to the May-Aug 1999 edition: LOW AVG HIGH 9050 13550 17400 The new edition (Sep-Dec 99) just arrived today: LOW AVG HIGH 9050 14250 21000 We think the low and average prices are about right, but still believe the high price is a bit low. These prices are accessible through the N.A.D.A. website also. James Espey DeLorean Motor Company Houston, Texas 281/568-9573 800/USA-DMC1 http://www.usadmc.com At 3:31 PM -0500 8/16/99, ryan arsenault wrote: >Hi list. I know that a DeLorean can sell for $7,000, or $25,000. What do >the insurance companies value the cars at? Is there a web site I could >go to that has the book value of older cars? Thanks. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 2285 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2285 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Michael R Dixon" Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:13:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] A/C water leaks Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01BEE959.F6417A40" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BEE959.F6417A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable My A/C is leaking water from the evaporator box all over the passenger carp= et. Is ther a way to clean out the drain line without tearing apart the ev= aporator box? I believe the drain line goes out somewhere under the floor = pan but inside the frame enclosure. Also has any body had problems with courtesy light fuse blowing? The fuse= just blew one day and now I can't find the cause. = ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BEE959.F6417A40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
My A/C is leaking water from the evapor= ator box = all over the passenger carpet.  Is ther a way to clean out the drain l= ine = without tearing apart the evaporator box?  I believe the drain line go= es = out somewhere under the floor pan but inside the frame enclosure.
 
Also has any body had problems with cou= rtesy = light fuse blowing?   The fuse just blew one day and now I can't = find = the cause.
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Typical for the price. ------------------------------ message 2287 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2287 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DeLorean31@aol.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:33:22 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: antenna Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/17/99 10:56:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Comet42483@aol.com writes: << We have an 81 Delorean, with a metal antenna. It has a key to pull it out of the slot. is it a power antenna or not? Should it be? Thanks >> I have the same type of antenna. This was a DMC antenna that came out for the front fender. There was the fixed mast type and the manual retracting type. You can recess it by hand and then use the key to pull it back up. The key is only a small pointed piece of metal that you put on a key ring that you put in the tiny hole in the top of the antenna when it is down. This allows you to get a grip on the antenna and pull it up. It is not an ignition or car type key. More like a hand cuff key or something. These manual retractable antennas were put out as an option for DMC owners with front fixed mast antennas. Mine was in an original DMC bag when I got it. They are available from all the major parts suppliers. Its nice to be able to retract the front fender antenna even if it is by hand. My reception is the same whether the antenna is up or down so I leave it recessed. Gary Gore Activities Director DeLorean Mid Atlantic http://hometown.aol.com/DeLorean31/dma.html ------------------------------ message 2288 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2288 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: KayoOng@aol.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:36:40 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: door solenoids, auto opening of doors? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit J, Check with Rob at P.J. Grady. He now sells a remote system (with the DMC logo) to lock and unlock the DeLorean's doors. This remote unit must work in conjunction with the LOCKZILLA module. He has or will have solenoids to open the doors and the trunk. When the doors are unlocked, and when the solenoids are activated, it will actuate the latch mechanism to open a door or both doors. The doors will be lifted wide open by the gas struts. There is a separate unit to unlatch the trunk. All of this, without touching the car. Kayo ------------------------------ message 2289 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2289 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:28:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] House Call Tour # 3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To All, We have been flooded with requests for more House Calls so we have decided to head out for another trip. Starting Sunday Sept. 12 Alan and I will be visiting DeLoreans in Chattanooga, Nashville, Memphis, Jackson, New Orleans, Mobile, and Birmingham. For complete details go to the House Call page at our web-site. Of course we will be back to Atlanta for the Cruise-In on the 25th & 26th. As always, even if your DeLorean is not in need of our services, we would like to meet as many of you as possible whenever time permits. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ------------------------------ message 2290 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2290 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:12:35 -0400 From: ryan arsenault MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Video For Jake Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jake, the test track video can be downloaded from DMC News The DeLorean Mailing List. This page is part of the DeLorean Web Ring. It is in the downloads section and is about 8mb. ------------------------------ message 2291 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2291 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:18:55 -0700 From: phemme@hotmail.com Subject: [DML] DMC on DVD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently saw a copy of the new Pop Up Video DVD. It deals with the 80's and has a brief spot on the Delorean. Only about 2 minutes but thought it might interest some of you. ------------------------------ message 2292 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2292 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Travis Graham" Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:01:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001b01bee983$e48ebd60$8d8d3cd8@mike> Subject: [DML] Re: A/C water leaks Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0063_01BEE9B4.780178A0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01BEE9B4.780178A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: 7bit content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Michael, I have been in this situaiton several times. The drain tube is a small flexible hose that drains out next to the A/C accumulator - under the passenger-side fender. Don't scare yourself with visions of ripping out the evaporator, this *probable* solution will only take five minutes! Just go by your local "do it yourself" car wash or petrol station and park the car by the vacuum. Plan ahead - you will probably need to rig something to stop up one side of the vacuum end, as the tube is quite small compared to your typical commercial vacuum pipe - shop towels worked for me. Then cram the A/C drain tube into the nozzle of the vacuum and cough up a few quarters. You will hear the water being sucked right out! Dry the carpet and you're set. Just be sure to do this every summer or so or it might come back. An alternative is to blow compressed air into the drain, but the vacuum solution worked MUCH better for me. Hope this helps! Travis Graham My A/C is leaking water from the evaporator box all over the passenger carpet. Is ther a way to clean out the drain line without tearing apart the evaporator box? I believe the drain line goes out somewhere under the floor pan but inside the frame enclosure. ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01BEE9B4.780178A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi = Michael,
 
I have = been in this situaiton several times.  The drain tube is a small = flexible hose that drains out next to the A/C accumulator - under the = passenger-side fender.  Don't scare yourself with visions of ripping o= ut = the evaporator, this *probable* solution will only take five minutes!&= nbsp; = Just go by your local "do it yourself" car wash or petrol station= and = park the car by the vacuum.  Plan ahead - you will probably need to = rig something to stop up one side of the vacuum end, as the tube is qu= ite = small compared to your typical commercial vacuum pipe - shop towels worked = for = me.  Then cram the A/C drain tube into the nozzle of the vacuum and co= ugh = up a few quarters.  You will hear the water being sucked right out!&nb= sp; = Dry the carpet and you're set.  Just be sure to do this every summer o= r so = or it might come back.
 
An = alternative is to blow compressed air into the drain, but the vacuum soluti= on = worked MUCH better for me.  Hope this = helps!
 
Travis = Graham
 
My A/C is leaking water from the evap= orator = box all over the passenger carpet.  Is ther a way to clean out the d= rain = line without tearing apart the evaporator box?  I believe the drain = line = goes out somewhere under the floor pan but inside the frame = enclosure.
------=_NextPart_000_0063_01BEE9B4.780178A0-- ------------------------------ message 2293 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2293 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "John Dore" Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:01:29 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Custom DMC keychains Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody! I'd like to inform the DML that I am selling custom made DeLorean keychains and airvalve caps on my website, John's Irish DeLorean Webpage. The site's address is as follows : http://homepage.tinet.ie/~johndore/keychain.html These are the only DeLorean keychains availible anywhere in the world, so please take some time to check them out!! All the info you need is on my website, including pricing, pictures, etc. Thanks for your time, John Dore, Ireland. ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ message 2294 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2294 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DeLorean31@aol.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:08:34 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: door solenoids, auto opening of doors? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just had the remote door lock opening module installed by PJ Grady along with the Lockzilla module which you need for this new system. It works great. The remote door opening and trunk options are not out yet. He is still working out the final bugs with them. The remote door locks are nice. There is a remote door lock unit that goes on your keyring like an alarm remote you see on many cars today. It has the DMC logo and the Zilla logo. It also has the buttons for the door opening and trunk option for when it becomes available. I cant wait to add these to my car. Rob showed me the prototype system he has on his green car and how it opens the doors automatically. It looks reall cool. Gary Gore Activities Director DeLorean Mid Atlantic VIN 3360 http://hometown.aol.com/DeLorean31/dma.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- View the full archives, subscribe/unsubscribe, use the group calendar at http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews Manage your subscriptions at http://eGroups.com Free e-mail groups by eGroups.com. 
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