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2217. DLoff80@aol.com Re: Tanks...but no tanks!
2218. Hickman turbo delorean and locking problems
2219. yugoman Car For Sale (Maybe) North Carolina
2220. Gary V. Re: Gas Mileage
2221. Tris Harvey-Rice Re: DeLorean Movie Mistakes
2222. SweatyEddy Re: turbo delorean and locking problems
2223. Ian Foster turbo delorean and locking problems
2224. Scott Mueller Re: Broken front shock...
2225. Dave Swingle eGroups Web Site Down today
2226. Ben Krasnow Re: Gas Mileage
2227. doctor280 Re: antenna
2228. Gus Schlachter Gas Mileage
2229. Mark Noeltner Re: turbo delorean and locking problems
2230. jerry smith Re: DeLorean Movie Mistakes
2231. Mike03062@aol.com stripping paint
2232. Mark Noeltner Re: Gas Mileage
2233. Deaddog Bar & Grill Wish you were here
2234. E Grauff Help!
2235. ToniLFHS98@aol.com Re: Fascia paint
2236. darryl@techline.com balljoint failure [long]
2237. DMC5524@aol.com Re: DeLorean Movie Mistakes
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Maybe you should try to replace your filters. (i.e fuel, etc.) That might
help clean it up a little better.
Dave L.
Providence, RI
VIN- I WANT A D!
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Today i was looking in my Hemmings for a Delorean I wanted to buy and I
read that this guy had a turbo delorean.. Now I read in my book that
John DeLorean didnt make these turbo engines because he got into trouble
so fast.. So is this true? And one other thing, I also read in my book
that it is possible for the mechanisms in the locking and unlocking
switches to malfunction and lock you in your car. Has this ever
happened to any of you?
Thanks,
Ian
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 06:02:42 -0400
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I may be reluctantly offering my car for sale. It is an 81 #2423, automatic,
black interior, less than 18,000 miles. Stainless is in excellent condition,
interior probably 8 on a scale of 10 ( dash and binnacle perfect, seats show
some age cracking but no splits. I've been keeping them Lexoled since I've
owned it). Just had all cooling hoses replaced and metal header bottle
installed, Fanzilla and relay/fuse updates, new window switch and engine bay
light switch.
Financial situation is reason for contemplating sale, if things improve
quickly enough I'll keep her. Asking in the $18,000 range, if any one wants
more details you can email me privately. Car is located in Greensboro, NC.
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I got 20 miles to the gal. on my last tank!
And for the most part I don't drive conservatively,
with a mix of highway & in town driving.
piason
VIN# 5480
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> Hey guys. I was just wondering what the Gas Mileage was on a Delorean. Does
> anyone know?
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The Internet Movie Database ( www.imdb.com ) also has a list of mistakes for
each film in the BTTF series, as well as lots of other interesting, albeit
pointless, trivia. Just go to the site and search for "Back to the Future".
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Ian,
The locking thing is true although unlikely you would have it happen to both
doors at the same time. My passenger door is currently stuck closed. It
happened when my son tried opening the door and the door lock at the same
time. to remidie the problem I will have to remove the door panel and fiddle
with the latch and lock rods. And yes it is quite a pain in the butt.
-SweatyEddy
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> Today i was looking in my Hemmings for a Delorean I wanted to buy and I
> read that this guy had a turbo delorean.. Now I read in my book that
> John DeLorean didnt make these turbo engines because he got into trouble
> so fast.. So is this true? And one other thing, I also read in my book
> that it is possible for the mechanisms in the locking and unlocking
> switches to malfunction and lock you in your car. Has this ever
> happened to any of you?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ian
>
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Locked Out!
I was locked out of my DeLorean last November between SanFransisco and
LosAngeles. Had got out to make a telephone call at a coin box leaving the
keys in the ignition. Closed the doors, went back after the call and
everything was locked solid. Had to get the Cops and a lock-smith to get me
back into it! Didn't help that it was Thanksgiving weekend. Cost me $65 and
a lot of embarrisment!!!
Cheers, IAN
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> Today i was looking in my Hemmings for a Delorean I wanted to buy and I
> read that this guy had a turbo delorean.. Now I read in my book that
> John DeLorean didnt make these turbo engines because he got into trouble
> so fast.. So is this true? And one other thing, I also read in my book
> that it is possible for the mechanisms in the locking and unlocking
> switches to malfunction and lock you in your car. Has this ever
> happened to any of you?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ian
>
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From: "Scott Mueller"
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I had a front shock come lose at the top last year, the top washer had spli=
t and I lost the bushing. I had replaced the shocks a couple of years befo=
re that.
If the shock is in good condition, get a new set of bushings and nuts and =
refasten it. I found some spare parts at a local tire/shock store that wou=
ld fit until I was able to get the correct parts from a DeLorean Parts hous=
e. I have had no problems since.
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I heard a noisey "clunking" coming from the front of my D when I hit big =
bumps. Well, it seems that the shock decided that it didn't want to be atta=
tched to the top part of the suspension anymore, where it's supposed to be.=
I noiced that the other side had some sort of bushing with a curved washer=
holding it in place. My question is, how big of a problem do I have here? =
Is that washer thing attatched to the suspension? Or is it just held in pla=
ce by the shock? Do I need to replace my shock, or can I just replace the c=
urved washer and a new rubber bushing? How bad actually is this? Help pleas=
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I had a front shock come lose at the top last year, the=
top =
washer had split and I lost the bushing. I had replaced the shocks a =
couple of years before that.
If the shock is in good condition, get a new set =
of =
bushings and nuts and refasten it. I found some spare parts at a loca=
l =
tire/shock store that would fit until I was able to get the correct parts f=
rom a =
DeLorean Parts house. I have had no problems since.
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shock...
I heard a noisey "clunking" coming fr=
om the =
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that =
it didn't want to be attatched to the top part of the suspension anymore,=
=
where it's supposed to be. I noiced that the other side had some sort of =
bushing with a curved washer holding it in place. My question is, how big=
of a =
problem do I have here? Is that washer thing attatched to the suspension?=
Or =
is it just held in place by the shock? Do I need to replace my shock, or =
can I =
just replace the curved washer and a new rubber bushing? How bad actually=
is =
this? Help please?
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This is posted on the eGroups website. The email/mailing list service
appears to be functioning normally.
Today, this Sunday, August 15, we will be taking down the eGroups.com web
site and mail service for nine hours while we upgrade our database system.
The improvements should dramatically enhance the performance of the site.
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I am always impressed with my 17 miles per gallon, almost all short
trips in the city. I think that's just as good as 90's cars that have
similar sized V6 engines.
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From: Brad Fudge =
What goes up must come down ! Unless its my antenna. Any thoughts.
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The manufacturer of the factory antenna is Harada and they still have the=
se antenna assemblies and replacement mast on the self. =
If your antenna motor is still attempting to move the antenna up and down=
, most likely all you will require is a replacement mast.
The original mast is black, however Harada has the mast in crome and blac=
k. I just purchased and installed the crome version on my Delorean.
To get a replacement mast contact "Mike" at Harada, phone# 1-800-442-7232=
.
Crome replacement mast part# RXM5. Black replacement mast part# MXM5
Price including shipping was $24.00 (The black replacement is a couple do=
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Keep the dream alive and be safe,
Robert Starling
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antenna. Any thoughts.
The manufacturer of the factory antenna is Harada and they still have =
these =
antenna assemblies and replacement mast on the self
.
If your antenna motor is still attempting to move the antenna up and d=
own, =
most likely all you will require is a replacement mast.
The original mast is black, however Harada has the mast in crome and b=
lack. =
I just purchased and installed the crome version on my Delorean.
To get a replacement mast contact "Mike" at Harada, phone# =
1-800-442-7232.
Crome replacement mast part# RXM5. Black replacement mast part# MXM5=
P>
Price including shipping was $24.00 (The black replacement is a couple=
=
dollars more)
Keep the dream alive and be safe,
Robert Starling
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I tend to get 18-19 MPG and I drive like a madman...I even get to redline
from time to time. If anybody asks, I want turbos for Christmas...
When I first got the car is had been more-or-less stored for about 7 years
(only about 3k miles in that time) and I had the wandering idle. It bounced
from 500 to 2000 RPMs constantly and people at stop lights always thought I
was challenging them. :-) But I drove it daily and used a gas treatment
in every tank, and it slowly settled down. After 6 months the idle was
rock-steady.
The moral of the story? Drive it! Drive it! Drive it!
Gus Schlachter
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When I first go=
t the car is had been more-or-less stored for about 7 years (only about 3k =
miles in that time) and I had the wandering idle. It bounced from 500=
to 2000 RPMs constantly and people at stop lights always thought I was cha=
llenging them. :-) But I drove it daily and used a gas tr=
eatment in every tank, and it slowly settled down. After 6 months the=
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DeLoreans were not turbocharged from the factory. Well...there was the
prototype "Legend" car that Legend Industries was converting to twin turbo
with intercoolers, but nothing ever rolled out of the factory with turbos.
I've been debating a turbo kit for ours since I would *really* like the
horsepower boost, but haven't decided yet. See the archives for more info.
The book "Delorean: Stainless Steel Illusion" has some info on the legend
car including pictures.
Yup, locks can be a problem. Again, check the archives at
http://www.dmcnews.com/
DMC Joe just recently posted the procedure for getting the door open from
the inside if it happens. I'm still relatively new to the DeLorean world,
but I've heard that PJ Grady's Lockzilla will take care of the problem.
Mark N
VIN 6820
At 02:30 AM 8/15/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Today i was looking in my Hemmings for a Delorean I wanted to buy and I
>read that this guy had a turbo delorean.. Now I read in my book that
>John DeLorean didnt make these turbo engines because he got into trouble
>so fast.. So is this true? And one other thing, I also read in my book
>that it is possible for the mechanisms in the locking and unlocking
>switches to malfunction and lock you in your car. Has this ever
>happened to any of you?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ian
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I gotta admit this is a pretty cool site. But I found one thing that they
had wrong. It said that in BTTF 2 when the old Biff went back to 2015 he got
out of the car dying. This is not true cause when he got out his cane broke
and hit him in the stomach. I wouldn't exactly consider that dying.
The end of his cane fell onto the floorboard in the delorean and that's how
Doc figured out that Biff used the time machine.
Jerry Smith
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>The Internet Movie Database ( www.imdb.com ) also has a list of mistakes
for
>each film in the BTTF series, as well as lots of other interesting, albeit
>pointless, trivia. Just go to the site and search for "Back to the Future".
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As a moderate purist, I would run, not walk away from a painted
DeLorean!! Many were painted because of body problems, but if you are
determined to strip a painted "D" I have a tool that is plastic and
used in the HVAC industry. Many folks have used it in stripping
furniture, I doubt that it would damage the stainless like a razor
blade. Anyone want one, E-Mail me, I'll send you one free.
Mike
Nashua NH
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My window sticker says 19 mpg for a 1981 with the 5-speed. Window stickers
back then only listed one number rather than both a city and highway
mileage like the modern ones. Wasn't that supposed to be an average for a
specific course with both city and highway miles?
Anyway, on a recent trip to visit our parents we got 25 mpg on a trip that
was about 85% highway and 15% city.
Mark N
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At 09:27 PM 8/14/99 EDT, you wrote:
>Hey guys. I was just wondering what the Gas Mileage was on a Delorean. Does
>anyone know?
>
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Dave,
HI Guys !!! The Delorean Touring Soceity ( Dick, Bruce and Marty)
want to say Hi ! and wish you guys were here. Right now we happen to be
in Jasper, Alberta Canada. Talk about a fantastic trip so far !!! The
sceniery is unbelieveable up here. So far we've done about 3000 miles
in 8 days with nothing but good times with good people. Were North of
the contental divide in the Canadian Rockies where all the rivers flow
North to the Artic. We've still got a little farther North to go to
Edmonton for a few days, and then we'll start heading back Southeast
towards the good old USA. So far we've created a lot of intrest
anywhere we happen to stop with 4 Deloreans all together. It's ammazing
how many Canadians seem to know the car and a little about it. The
people and country are fantastic, very friendly and easy to get along
with. So far it's making for a GREAT get away.
Hope things are running smoothly : )
Talk with you guys in a few weeks, Dick, Bruce and Marty
PS: Some of the guys said: if you want, SEND MONEY !!!!! :)
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Just picked up an '82. Was showing it off to some friends and had the
hood latch break on me - inside under the hood, not at the lever! So now
I can't put gas in my car. Anyone have this happen, and know how I can
break in without destroying my hood?
I'll start searching the archive online, and will be taking a look at a
friends car to see if I can do anything with a slim jim - but if anyone
can help me I'd greatly appreciate it.
Thanks,
Eric
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I do not have the paint code. The body shop that did the painting matched
the color for me. Body shops now has computerized color matching system and
can match any color.
Bill
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I'd like to relate a problem I had with my car that could have had serious
consequences. Last Saturday my wife and I left for a car show in our
supercharged Chevy powered DeLorean. The first 10 miles or so of the trip
was on a winding, narrow country road, and I let the car out a little,
easily exceeding twice the speed limit of 40 MPH at times. I backed off
once we hit the state highway, and cruised another 20 miles or so to the
show. Upon entering the parking lot I stopped to chat with an old friend,
and then turned hard right when suddenly BANG the left front wheel was at a
terrible angle. Thankfully I could drive straight ahead to a parking spot,
where I got out the never-used jack to see what had happened. The lower
ball joint had broken at the nut, and the lower control arm had popped off
of the spindle! I don't want to think of what would have happened if that
had failed a few minutes earlier. I bummed a ride home where I got some
tools and several spare ball joints, and was able to replace it in the
parking lot in a short time.
I know there was a lower ball joint recall from the factory, and as a parts
vendor I thought I knew which was the correct one to use; plus I had rebuilt
every piece of this car's suspension myself. And yet somehow I had managed
to use the wrong parts, an error which could have had deadly results.
The point of this is: check your lower ball joints. The bottom (where the
zerk fitting is) should have a crowned shape. If it is a flat circle about
1 1/4" diameter which appears crimped into the larger housing, REPLACE IT!
(It also appears the nut on the correct one is 19mm, compared to 18mm on the
faulty one, but check the bottom to be sure.) The stud on these ball joints
is undercut and weak at the point where the taper ends and the threads
begin, and could fail - mine did. (And if anyone is curious, the elapsed
time today to remove both lower control arms and replace both ball joints,
alone and without a spring compressor, just a floor jack, was 4 hours.)
I welcome input from Joe, Stephen, etc. on this subject.
Darryl Tinnerstet
McCleary
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The scene showing BIff dying was cut from the original movie and is only
available on the video cassette called "The Secrets Of The Back To The Future
Trilogy". If you have any other questions e-mail me privately.
Dave
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