From: eGroups Digest [dmcnews@egroups.com] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 7:59 PM To: David.Swingle Subject: dmcnews digest eGroups Daily Digest: dmcnews has 32 new messages. Click here http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2158 to read them. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 2158. DMC Joe Re: Delorean Demographics? 2159. Michael Babb Re: Help on DMC Model 2160. DMC5524@aol.com Re: Was the DeLorean really a GM concept? 2161. NELLYMAC1@aol.com Re: Keys 2162. Montgomery, Ken Re: Delorean Demographics? 2163. efren hicks Keys/lights/tv show 2164. Dave Swingle Re: Delorean Demographics? 2165. DMC Joe Re: Keys/lights/tv show 2166. raynet@home.net NEW INFO: 1981 Delorean for sale 2167. Lee I am still here 2168. Altomarine@aol.com A/C Ducts 2169. Donald Kazmark paint removal 2170. Ace Underhill Delorean 007 contest! 2171. Martin Gutkowski Re: The car's the star... 2172. delorean502@excite.com need insight! 2173. J.M. Rooney Crash Test Video Update 2174. dcsj@excite.com Re: Keys 2175. dcsj@excite.com Re: Keys/lights/tv show 2176. dcsj@excite.com Re: paint removal 2177. SweatyEddy Re: paint removal 2178. Jus4sho@aol.com Re: paint removal 2179. William T Wilson Re: Crash Test Video Update 2180. The Genius Re: Help on DMC Model 2181. DMC Joe Re: need insight! 2182. Mike Substelny Re: A/C Ducts 2183. DMC Joe TEMPORARLY OFF LINE 2184. Eric Goldstein DeLorean Posters and Expo Poll 2185. Mike Substelny Re: DeLorean Posters 2186. Dave Swingle re: Accumlator replacment (was need insight) 2187. Marc A Levy Re: DeLorean Posters and Expo Poll 2188. Richard Strecker Re: need insight! 2189. Dave Swingle MORE Accumlator replacment ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 2158 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2158 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:41:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Demographics? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We have many female owners in our database. The fact is that many of them are not very technically oriented therefore they may not feel comfortable with a lot of "tech talk". We know there are ladies out there who are reading this post right now and several of them who do occasionally make themselves heard. Don't be fooled, there are lots of female DeLorean owners, they just do more listening and less talking. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: mdeluca@comtechpst.com > To: dmcnews@eGroups.com > Subject: [DML] Delorean Demographics? > Date: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 9:59 AM > > I've been reading the DMC news for several months religiously and > noticed a > pervasive absence of women writing in or women owners of Deloreans. > Would the moderators be able to provide any stats with the ratio of men > to women on the list or men to women owner ratios? > My impression is that the Delorean is a very male oriented car, women > seam to > love the car also (lots of supportive wife's out there like mine) > but ownership seams almost exclusively male dominated. > > Mike D. > Vin 3113 > NY Lic DELORIANN (named after the very supportive wife by the way) > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > ------------------------------ message 2159 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2159 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Michael Babb" Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 17:24:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Help on DMC Model Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert, I know that it sounds stupid to paint the interior with "Intermekdiate Blue" I am half way through with my second BTTF model, but the Intermediate Blue is really an off shade of grey (Basically grey with a tint of blue). I have a DeLorean with a grey interior, and the color is almost an exact match. BTW. here are the specs of the paint I use: Model Master, Intermediate Blue, FS 35164 Hi, I am working on building the BTTF 2 DeLorean (AMT Ertl), but I do not want to paint the interior BLUE, as the instructions say. Instead, I would rather match the interior of a REAL DeLorean: either black or gray. Could any of you share with me what shade of paint they used for the black/gray? ------------------------------ message 2160 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2160 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: DMC5524@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 20:58:35 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Was the DeLorean really a GM concept? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/10/99 1:03:54 AM Central Daylight Time, oehcs@flash.net writes: << I have a picture of the PPG car somewhere. This is no question it was a DeLorean to start with. Does any one live in Reno? >> I have two pictures of the car in question. If interested, please e-mail me and I'll try to forward them to you. Dave 1981 DeLorean 1992 Subaru SVX ------------------------------ message 2161 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2161 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: NELLYMAC1@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:46:47 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Keys Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I noticed before that people have mentioned theses keys from Lee do they have the logo and light fob on them?? I have tried many places for these ,to no avail thanks for any help Neil ------------------------------ message 2162 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2162 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Montgomery, Ken" Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 23:22:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Demographics? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A large number of the owners listed in the DeLorean Owners Directory are couples, listed with the mens name first (Patty and Mike Substelny are exceptions). There are a few women, but with some of the names it's hard to tell. The DeLorean is definitely NOT just a guy car. About the DOD: I'm still getting the additions from over the last year cleaned up. I'll send a confirmation notice out to everyone who has submitted their info from the last few weeks on. We'll let the owners know how to acquire a copy of the DOD when we get that part worked out. Ken Montgomery Keeper of the DeLorean Owners Directory > -----Original Message----- > From: mdeluca@comtechpst.com [mailto:mdeluca@comtechpst.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 7:00 AM > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Delorean Demographics? > > > I've been reading the DMC news for several months religiously and > noticed a > pervasive absence of women writing in or women owners of Deloreans. > Would the moderators be able to provide any stats with the > ratio of men > to women on the list or men to women owner ratios? > My impression is that the Delorean is a very male oriented car, women > seam to > love the car also (lots of supportive wife's out there like mine) > but ownership seams almost exclusively male dominated. > > Mike D. > Vin 3113 > NY Lic DELORIANN (named after the very supportive wife by the way) > ================================================================ Ken Montgomery Sacramento, CA VIN #10911 'OUTTIME' http://www.jps.net/arkham/delorean01.htm kenm@csus.edu Northern California DeLorean Motor Club http://members.tripod.com/ncdmc/ ================================================================ ------------------------------ message 2163 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2163 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:47:24 -0700 (PDT) From: efren hicks MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Keys/lights/tv show Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello I want to get my keys copied i have the original key to my car ,but its starting to rust how much does it cost and how long does it take? also my delorean has a yellow and orange rear light. does any one have the rigth side yellow rear light set i like that yellow look instead of the orange look! and while im at it i have a skate show on tv and im going to start the new season of the show buy having deloreans on the show so if any one lives in the los Angeles area and is willing to come down let me know! efren #16072 _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ message 2164 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2164 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Dave Swingle" Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:42:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Delorean Demographics? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd agree that it's primarily a male audience. As a long time subscriber I recall a few female posters, but not more than a few. Since all I can see is a list of 817 email addresses, about half with "real" names, I can't really develop any demographics. > noticed a > pervasive absence of women writing in or women owners of Deloreans. > Would the moderators be able to provide any stats with the ratio of men > to women on the list or men to women owner ratios? > Mike D. ------------------------------ message 2165 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2165 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:44:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Keys/lights/tv show Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I will leave the key question for other list members. All of the original rear lenses are amber, cars that are stored outdoors may suffer from sun fading which changes the color to yellow. I believe we have a couple of these sitting on our used parts shelf. Be aware that some states consider the faded lenses as a violation. Contact us directly for more information. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: efren hicks > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Keys/lights/tv show > Date: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 10:47 PM > > hello > I want to get my keys copied i have the original key to my car ,but its > starting to rust how much does it cost and how long does it take? also > my delorean has a yellow and orange rear light. does any one have the > rigth side yellow rear light set i like that yellow look instead of the > orange look! and while im at it i have a skate show on tv and im going > to start the new season of the show buy having deloreans on the show so > if any one lives in the los Angeles area and is willing to come down > let me know! > > efren #16072 ------------------------------ message 2166 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2166 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:37:55 -0700 From: raynet@home.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] NEW INFO: 1981 Delorean for sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Because of the amount of intrest in the selling of my D for $7900, I have put the car on ebay with all info. Please check out http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=145338689 for all info on the car and feel free to contact me with any further questions you may have after viewing the info. Thanks

Raymond McKay ------------------------------ message 2167 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2167 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:52:31 -0700 From: Lee Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] I am still here Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi to all DML members, Yes I am still here and working on the limited edition and DMC keys. I am responding to all the e-mail, but it takes time to catch up so please be patient. Just consider for a moment that if you called me on the phone or wrote me a letter It might take days to hear back from me. This instant messaging on the Internet is all well and good but may create an uneasiness or apprehension when an instant response is not forth coming. Please give me time to get to you if you have sent e-mail and have not yet received a reply, you will! I enjoy the mail and your comments so please "DO" feel free to send e-mail. Thanks Lee ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ Radiance Software Int. Leader in VRML Authoring software Over 200,000 copies distributed EMMY Winner Best Technical Achievement (computer generated effects) 1726 Francisco Street Berkeley CA. 94703 1-510-649-9118 lseiler@radiance.com http://www.radiance.com offices: California, Florida, Tokyo Jp. ------------------------------ message 2168 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2168 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Altomarine@aol.com Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:57:21 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] A/C Ducts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Group, Here in Texas its HOT. So when I fired up the big D and cranked on the huffer, boy was I disappointed to find the center ducts not blowing that delicious cool air. Yes they are open. And yes the door ducts are blowing. It seems to be something deeper down restricting them. Anybody got any ideas? MHL ------------------------------ message 2169 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2169 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:21:34 -0400 From: Donald Kazmark Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] paint removal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have any experience in converting a painted car back to sainless. Is it a big job, and what are the results?Any comments would be highly appriciated.... Donald Kazmark no vin yet.......soon soon! ------------------------------ message 2170 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2170 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Ace Underhill" Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:50:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Delorean 007 contest! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit {NOTE TO CURRENT MODERATOR: If any part of this is not acceptable, please let me know. If it's ok, then please post the following to the list. Thanks.} To spice things up on the DML, Brilliant Screen Entertainment is hosting a Delorean-related contest. The winner will receive a copy of the new Delorean Video, runner-ups will gain fame in the DML community. Here's the concept, we are creating a "top-ten" list of "Why the DMC-12 was never a James Bond car" or conversely, "Why the DMC-12 would make a good James Bond car." To enter, send your idea(s) for either list directly to: Bond@brilliantscreen.com Please DO NOT clutter the DML by sending them there. We will pick the best ones, compile them and post them to the DML after the contest ends. Contest ends August 31, 1999. Keep the dream alive! -Ace Underhill- Brilliant Screen Entertainment http://www.brilliantscreen.com ------------------------------ message 2171 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2171 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:31:30 +0100 From: Martin Gutkowski MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19990804042237.9325.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: [DML] Re: The car's the star... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A few of you will remember an issue surrounding a certain BBCTV presenter by the name of Quentin Wilson - of a book with his name on it woefully misrepresenting the DeLorean. I got a mail today from a fellow UK club member who I have yet to have the pleasure of meeting in person, and who is also a member of the DML - Chris Hawes. I hope you don't mind me pasting in part of your mail! Christopher Hawes wrote: I emailed the BBC a month or so ago and asked Quentin Willson why the Delorean to my knowledge which although had been mentioned but never appeared as a feature. Well he phoned me up personally a few weeks ago and told me that he was including the DMC-12 in the new series on The Car is the Star programmes. This should be out in the autumn. He has plenty of cars sourced and is also filming in the States. I also asked him why when Dave's car was photographed for his 'The Ultimate Classic Car' book a couple of years ago that the wrong information had been included. He said that he had not been involved at that point or something along those lines Well, there you go! Martin John Dore wrote: > Hi there, > Richard Porter, from an English TV show, called "The car's the Star" has > asked if I could help him make a show about the DeLorean. > He wants to film in the Detroit area next week, and would like to meet some > ex-delorean dealers in the Detroit area... > Please reply to him at richard.porter.02@bbc.co.uk if you have any info that > might be of help > Thank you!! > John Dore > > ______________________________________________________ > ------------------------------ message 2172 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2172 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:38:15 -0700 From: delorean502@excite.com Subject: [DML] need insight! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello my fellow delorean owners and fanatics, i was just wondering if anybody has ever installed a fuel accumulator themselfs and if so, could you tell me how? me and my dad are going to work on the D soon and would like something to fall back on and get some pointers from. another thing, i recently got my front shocks replaced and i just noticed that when i turn right kinda hard that it makes a banging noise....only sometimes, not all. any insight would be great erik geerdink ------------------------------ message 2173 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2173 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "J.M. Rooney" Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:41:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Crash Test Video Update Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEE418.4D71BC40" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEE418.4D71BC40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To update you on the status of the crash test video, currently I am waiting= for the Master Tapes to arrive first so that I can view the quality. I wan= t to make sure that everything is in good condition so that I don't disappo= int anyone. To fill in everyone as to what's on the tape, here goes. The ca= r is 1981 model, and it was tested in 1981. It has been modified to fit an = air bag, but that is the only modification (why this was done, I have no id= ea). The car is tested as crashing head-on into a solid wall. Angles includ= e: Outside looking at the full drivers side, and a separate camera for the = full passenger side. I'm not sure if there is an over head shot, however, t= here are cameras mounted inside of the car to capture the crash from the pe= rspective of the driver and passenger. And of course there is a slo-mo repl= ay. This is what I was told, however l won't know for sure until I get the = tapes. If you have anymore questions feel free to contact me at DMCVegas@wo= rldnet.att.net -Robert = p.s. If the link for my e-mail address doesn't work, just click on the othe= r one in the header of this message. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEE418.4D71BC40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"

To update you on the status of the crash test video, curr= ently I = am waiting for the Master Tapes to arrive first so that I can view the qual= ity. = I want to make sure that everything is in good condition so that I don't = disappoint anyone. To fill in everyone as to what's on the tape, here goes.= The = car is 1981 model, and it was tested in 1981. It has been modified to fit a= n air = bag, but that is the only modification (why this was done, I have no idea).= The = car is tested as crashing head-on into a solid wall. Angles include: Outsid= e = looking at the full drivers side, and a separate camera for the full passen= ger = side. I'm not sure if there is an over head shot, however, there are camera= s = mounted inside of the car to capture the crash from the perspective of the = driver and passenger. And of course there is a slo-mo replay. This is what = I was = told, however l won't know for sure until I get the tapes. If you have anym= ore = questions feel free to contact me at DMCVegas@worldnet.att.net

-Robert

p.s. If the link for my e-mail address doesn't work, just= click = on the other one in the header of this message.

------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEE418.4D71BC40-- ------------------------------ message 2174 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2174 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: dcsj@excite.com Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:52:08 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Keys Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Neil Sorry,but they only have the logo on them . the key with the light is much more involved to try to reproduce you can e-mail lee directly at lseiler@radiance.com or he said that he is now suppling the major parts dealers with them for retail sales. Dennis 5180 GULLWNG On Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:46:47 EDT, NELLYMAC1@aol.com wrote: > I noticed before that people have mentioned theses keys from Lee > do they have the logo and light fob on them?? > > > I have tried many places for these ,to no avail > > thanks for any help > Neil > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > ________________________________________________________________ Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com ------------------------------ message 2175 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2175 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: dcsj@excite.com Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:17:03 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Keys/lights/tv show Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Efren You'll have to buy the key blanks from lee seiler or one of the major parts suppliers. Keys from lee are $20 + sh for 2 From the other guys I have no idea. Then take them to your local locksmith to have them cut . Mine were $5 each Your yellow tailliight used to be the standard DOT amber and for some reason has faded .I,But not the rightt happened to my left lens also, but not the right lens. This appears to be common when the cars are stored out side unprotected from UV rays. Please explain more about your TV show . What do mean by Skate show , ice,roller,inline,board. How would a delorean fit in with that format? On Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:47:24 -0700 (PDT), efren hicks wrote: > hello > I want to get my keys copied i have the original key to my car ,but its > starting to rust how much does it cost and how long does it take? also > my delorean has a yellow and orange rear light. does any one have the > rigth side yellow rear light set i like that yellow look instead of the > orange look! and while im at it i have a skate show on tv and im going > to start the new season of the show buy having deloreans on the show so > if any one lives in the los Angeles area and is willing to come down > let me know! > > efren #16072 > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > ________________________________________________________________ Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com ------------------------------ message 2176 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2176 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: dcsj@excite.com Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:49:57 PDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: paint removal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Donald Buy one thats not painted . The're readily avaliable. You never know what is under the paint and yes it would be a very big job. Rob Grady of PJ Grady's owns a beautiful green delorean that he painted only because the stainless was beyond repair. Dennis On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:21:34 -0400, Donald Kazmark wrote: > Does anyone have any experience in converting a painted car back to > sainless. Is it a big job, and what are the results?Any comments would > be highly appriciated.... > Donald Kazmark > no vin yet.......soon soon! > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > ________________________________________________________________ Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com ------------------------------ message 2177 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2177 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "SweatyEddy" References: <37B1BF2D.39E4FED5@peri.com> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:47:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: paint removal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Donald, My car D use to be black but the paint started to peel so I stripped it off. All it took was a gallon of Jasco paint remover and about half a day's time. The stainless finish was fine underneath, the only real problem was the fact that I used a razor blade to scrape the paint off and so I had some inadvertant scratches to buff out. Maybe a softer scraper would have been a better choice, perhaps wood or plastic as long as you clean it frequently (Methylene Chloride is the active ingredient in Jasco and it melts a lot of plastics). The key is take your time. -SweatyEddy ----- Original Message ----- From: Donald Kazmark To: Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 6:21 PM Subject: [DML] paint removal > Does anyone have any experience in converting a painted car back to > sainless. Is it a big job, and what are the results?Any comments would > be highly appriciated.... > Donald Kazmark > no vin yet.......soon soon! > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com > > > ------------------------------ message 2178 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2178 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Jus4sho@aol.com Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:58:25 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: paint removal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If the car's already painted, best to leave it that way. Mine was painted by a previous owner and needed to be repainted so I stripped the hood just to get a look at the stainless. It was a big job. The flat areas aren't so bad, but when you get to corners and recesses, it gets tough. Also, if the stainless was sanded prior to primering, you may have deep scratches that may be difficult or impossible to remove. Steve VIN 2650 ------------------------------ message 2179 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2179 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 23:41:35 -0400 (EDT) From: William T Wilson In-Reply-To: <002f01bee454$6a168880$bf08490c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Crash Test Video Update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, J.M. Rooney wrote: > the tape, here goes. The car is 1981 model, and it was tested in 1981. > It has been modified to fit an air bag, but that is the only > modification (why this was done, I have no idea). The car is tested as I believe the original intent was to have air bags installed in the car (whether as standard or an option I do not know), but at the time there were no manufacturers capable of supplying enough volume. So it would be reasonable that they would use an air bag in some of the crash testing. ------------------------------ message 2180 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2180 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 07:37:07 -0700 From: "The Genius" Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Help on DMC Model Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert, I am also working on the BTTF 2 model by Aoshima. The seats come in gray to start with, so I would leave them alone. I will check my instructions and see if it really calls for blue. From what I remember, my instructions are to paint the already gray seats...gray! That's a waste of paint. I would just leave them. Keep me informed of your progress. The Genius -- On Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:18:19 Robert Greenhaw wrote: Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com ------------------------------ message 2181 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2181 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:39:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: need insight! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit erik, The fuel accumulator replacement is a labor intensive procedure even if you have done it several times; here's a tip. Get the entire car up in the air i.e.: four jack stands on all for corners. Have a drain pan ready to catch the quart or so of gas that will leak out of the accumulator and adjoining fuel lines. Good luck. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ---------- > From: delorean502@excite.com > To: dmcnews@eGroups.com > Subject: [DML] need insight! > Date: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 8:38 PM > > hello my fellow delorean owners and fanatics, > i was just wondering if anybody has ever installed a fuel accumulator > themselfs and if so, could you tell me how? me and my dad are going to > work on the D soon and would like something to fall back on and get > some pointers from. > another thing, i recently got my front shocks replaced and i just > noticed that when i turn right kinda hard that it makes a banging > noise....only sometimes, not all. any insight would be great > > erik geerdink ------------------------------ message 2182 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2182 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:56:16 -0400 From: Mike Substelny MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6690b0ac.24e2db41@aol.com> Subject: [DML] Re: A/C Ducts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MHL said: > . . . when I fired up the big D and cranked on the > huffer, boy was I disappointed to find the center ducts not blowing that > delicious cool air. Yes they are open. And yes the door ducts are blowing. Until I subscribed to the DML I thought that poor flow through the center vents was normal. In an early issue I learnred that it is NOT normal, but it is common. There are two soft polymer boots behind the dash that connect the ductwork to the center vents. Frequently these boots will slip backwards and collapse, blowing that delicious cool air onto your radio instead of you. You may not have to disassemble the dash to fix this! Just pop the vent deflectors out of their sockets. Using a flashlight and some long tools (e.g. screwdrivers, long tweezers) you might be able to put these boots back in place by reaching through the vents. It worked for me. You can find more information about this by searching the DML back issues. - Mike Substelny ------------------------------ message 2183 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2183 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "DMC Joe" Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:57:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] TEMPORARLY OFF LINE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To All, Our e-mail system will be down for the next couple of days for software upgrades. We will resume normal operation A.S.A.P. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / Web Site: ------------------------------ message 2184 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2184 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Eric Goldstein" Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:36:58 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] DeLorean Posters and Expo Poll Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DMC in Houston has a poster on ebay that they say is the most rare or rarest of all DeLorean posters. Can anyone comment on this poster and what other posters are there? http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&userid=deloreanmotorcompany&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25 Also, only 19 people have bothered to answer the poll I started a few days ago - I thought there were over 800-some people on the list? Where are you all? http://www.egroups.com/vote?method=displayallvotes&listname=dmcnews Eric G _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ message 2185 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2185 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:10:04 -0400 From: Mike Substelny MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19990812143715.68886.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Posters Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eric Goldstein wrote: > DMC in Houston has a poster on ebay that they say is the most rare or rarest > of all DeLorean posters. Can anyone comment on this poster and what other > posters are there? This is the full color "Presenting America's Most Talked About Car!" poster that dealers used in early DeLorean promotions. It shows a DeLorean smashing through a collage of true newspaper headlines and magazine covers which lead up to the DeLorean's debut. As far as I know this poster was never offered to the public by the original DMC. Because they are so large these posters are difficult to store; undoubtedly most have been destroyed by now. I have one of these posters. It is beautiful, rare, and enormous. I spent over $300 to have mine professionally mounted in a stainless & glass frame. It was well worth the cost to avoid putting nail holes through my poster. Warning: it takes a large wall to display this huge poster properly. As for other posters: the DOA has a nice one at its website, www.delorean-owners.org This poster shows the DeLorean with its doors up. In the old days James Espey used to have another poster at the DMC News site. I do not know what happened to these. I have seen other DeLorean posters, but I don't know where to get them. - Mike Substelny ------------------------------ message 2186 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2186 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Dave Swingle" Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:26:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] re: Accumlator replacment (was need insight) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eric - Another comment on accumulator replacement - make sure you remove the small tray at the back of the console, and then the plastic cover plate under that. That is where you can hold the back of the fuel line fitting while you detach it from underneath. If you don't do this you WILL kink the fuel line. At that point, you'll realize that the line is run in-between the frame and the body. Not a pretty thought. > Subject: [DML] need insight! > Date: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 8:38 PM > > hello my fellow delorean owners and fanatics, > i was just wondering if anybody has ever installed a fuel accumulator > themselfs and if so, could you tell me how? me and my dad are going to ------------------------------ message 2187 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2187 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:30:54 -0400 From: Marc A Levy MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19990812143715.68886.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Posters and Expo Poll Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I saw this poster in Ohio last year when I was in the warehouse. It is a nice poster, but it looked as if they had quite a few of them. It was the first, and last time I had seen it so I guess it is "rare". They were selling them for like $20 I think. I had considered buying one, but $20 seemed like a lot for a poster. In retrospect, I should have bought it. There are a number of interesting items on Ebay being sold by DMC Houston. Eric Goldstein wrote: > > DMC in Houston has a poster on ebay that they say is the most rare or rarest > of all DeLorean posters. Can anyone comment on this poster and what other > posters are there? > > http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&userid=deloreanmotorcompany&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25 > > Also, only 19 people have bothered to answer the poll I started a few days > ago - I thought there were over 800-some people on the list? Where are you > all? > > http://www.egroups.com/vote?method=displayallvotes&listname=dmcnews > > Eric G > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@dmcnews.com ------------------------------ message 2188 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2188 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:50:26 -0400 From: Richard Strecker MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7ot51n$k56m@eGroups.com> Subject: [DML] Re: need insight! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------FC26F43659908140644FB1E8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------FC26F43659908140644FB1E8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" content-transfer-encoding: 7bit content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Erik, Maybe I was just lucky but,....it only took me 2 hours to change out the accumulator. Some have taken 6 hours or longer. The "trick" that I found was to release the hard tube fitting first. This is the one that goes to the 90degree elbow on the accumulator. I used a 17mm tube nut wrench for this. The handle was long enough that I could get an extension (vice grips) on it to get the leverage to break it loose. Once this was done, I undid the four bolts in the bracket & with a little wiggling (of the accumulator) you can pull the entire assembly down through the access hole. It does clear with all hoses connected. At this point you can remove the bottom hose with the hose clamp and then the fitting on the top hose. Be aware that the bottom hose is the return line to the fuel tank and is full of fuel. Have a container ready to catch about a quart of gasoline. When you are ready to reinstall the accumulator, reattach the hoses. The "trick" here is that the hoses were twisted so that they didn't kink and close off fuel flow. What you have to do is reinstall them with the twist. You'll be able to see pretty quickly just what direction & how much twist you have to put in when you start to reposition the accumulator. Best of luck on the operation..... Richard --------------FC26F43659908140644FB1E8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" content-transfer-encoding: 7bit content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Erik,

Maybe I was just lucky but,....it only took me 2 hours to change out the accumulator.  Some have taken 6 hours or longer.

The "trick" that I found was to release the hard tube fitting first.  This is the one that goes to the 90degree elbow on the accumulator.  I used a 17mm tube nut wrench for this.  The handle was long enough that I could get an extension (vice grips) on it to get the leverage to break it loose.  Once this was done, I undid the four bolts in the bracket & with a little wiggling (of the accumulator) you can pull the entire assembly down through the access hole.  It does clear with all hoses connected.  At this point you can remove the bottom hose with the hose clamp and then the fitting on the top hose. Be aware that the bottom hose is the return line to the fuel tank and is full of fuel.  Have a container ready to catch about a quart of gasoline.

When you are ready to reinstall the accumulator, reattach the hoses.  The "trick" here is that the hoses were twisted so that they didn't kink and close off fuel flow.  What you have to do is reinstall them with the twist. You'll be able to see pretty quickly just what direction & how much twist you have to put in when you start to reposition the accumulator.

Best of luck on the operation.....
 

Richard --------------FC26F43659908140644FB1E8-- ------------------------------ message 2189 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=2189 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Dave Swingle" Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:07:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] MORE Accumlator replacment Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One more thought - My comment about holding the back of the fitting from above only pertains if you are replacing the hoses as well (I did). If you are just changing the accumulator this will not be a problem. dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Swingle To: dmcnews submit Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 10:26 AM Subject: re: Accumlator replacment (was need insight) > Eric - Another comment on accumulator replacement - make sure you remove the > small tray at the back of the console, and then the plastic cover plate > under that. That is where you can hold the back of the fuel line fitting > while you detach it from underneath. If you don't do this you WILL kink the > fuel line. At that point, you'll realize that the line is run in-between the > frame and the body. Not a pretty thought. ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- View the full archives, subscribe/unsubscribe, use the group calendar at http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews Manage your subscriptions at http://eGroups.com Free e-mail groups by eGroups.com. 

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