From: eGroups Digest [dmcnews@egroups.com] Sent: Sunday, August 01, 1999 7:16 AM To: David.Swingle Subject: dmcnews digest eGroups Daily Digest: dmcnews has 24 new messages. Click here http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1910 to read them. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 1910. Arnold Schurink Cars pulls away when braking 1911. Ann & Ed Thompson Re: Torsion bars 1912. Arnold Schurink Re: Loud rear-end Clunking/Banging 1913. Ann & Ed Thompson Re: Lower Control Arms, "unavailable" parts, etc 1914. Dave Swingle Re: Torsion bars 1915. Mr. Copies Were the 17000 series originally the 12000 serie 1916. Murray Fisher (DML) LEATHER SEATS 1917. Jus4sho@aol.com Re: LEATHER SEATS 1918. CBL302@aol.com Re: LEATHER SEATS 1919. Jus4sho@aol.com Removing Rust Stains 1920. Aldo Buono FW: Need Parts Cross Reference 1921. Murray Fisher Parts High Costs 1922. ToniLFHS98@aol.com Electrical problem 1923. Ben Krasnow Heater problems 1924. Gerald Deutsch Re: Were the 17000 series originally the 12000 s 1925. JCox4001@aol.com Orlando area servicing 1926. James Espey Re: VINs (was Were the 17000 series originally 1927. ryan arsenault Darkening Polishes 1928. Dave Swingle ADMIN: DMCNEWS Web Page Updated 1929. Dave Swingle ADMIN: Bouncing Emails - what to do 1930. Hickman older or newer model 1931. raddad@cmn.net Re: Darkening Polishes 1932. OZZMAN283@aol.com Re: wanting to trade GTO for a D in a local muse 1933. William T Wilson Re: older or newer model ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 1910 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1910 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:58:35 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Arnold Schurink Subject: [DML] Cars pulls away when braking Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everybody, we've got a little problem with our D. The car pulls heavily to the left when braking hard in order to slow down fast. A week ago we removed the wheels to check out the brakes, but these seemed to be fine. Does anybody have any clue to what might be the cause/solution? Your help is extremely appreciated! Thanx! Greetings from Arnie S, Hoogeveen,Holland, Europe. Vin#10849 ------------------------------ message 1911 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1911 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:57:44 -0400 From: Ann & Ed Thompson MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <004601bedb0a$61b8a7c0$31a3ffd0@mike-quinto> Subject: [DML] Re: Torsion bars Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Mike, > what you are saying is correct I agree with you one hundred percent. You > are saying that the bars are only cold treated on the surface and not to the > core, so when you take away that treated surface the bar becomes weak, > correct? Somehow earlier in this thread the discussion changed from the suspension torsion bars to the torsion bars in the doors or the other way around. The suspension torsion bars are not stainless steel, they will rust, and I suppose they could be turned on a lathe for cleaning. The door torsion bars are an entirely different animal. Let's all get on the same page here so that the left hand knows what the right hand is doing. Or perhaps the moderators should just close out this thread. Regards, Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982) Midlothian, VA ------------------------------ message 1912 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1912 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:58:38 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Arnold Schurink Subject: [DML] Re: Loud rear-end Clunking/Banging Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The previous owner of our car also had loud clunking in the D. After being fully checked the clunking sound was still there. Trying to discover where the sound was coming from, they finally found the cause in the form of a completely new spring coil that lay clunking somewhere on the bottom plate. Presumably it wound up there during the construction process. Anyway, we still have that new coil. I found it an amusing story. Greetings from Arnie S, Hoogeveen, Holland, Europe. Vin#10849 ------------------------------ message 1913 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1913 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:29:32 -0400 From: Ann & Ed Thompson MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: [DML] Re: Lower Control Arms, "unavailable" parts, etc. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > For anybody out there that needs a set of rare lower control arms for a > Delorean, there are a set available on Ebay, if you miss out don't say you > can't find any. > > Claude The control arm set being offered on eBay is Item #138905400 by spider@fishnet.com in St. Paul. He says the arms have been sandblasted and epoxy coated but he does not describe the overall condition otherwise. There is a picture and they "look" okay, but.....caveat emptor. If anyone here on the DML is interested I would suggest you email the seller for more information. The bidding is currently at $100 ("reserve not yet met") with only one bidder so far. This is a "new item" on eBay and the auction is not over until August 8th. "Buy early, buy often!" Regards, Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982) Midlothian, VA ------------------------------ message 1914 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1914 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Dave Swingle" Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:38:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Torsion bars Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since the DelLorean DOES NOT have torsion bars in the suspension, I concur. Don't nick the door torsion bars, they will snap. Another thread bites the dust, unless something fresh comes along. Dave - moderator for the day. >Somehow earlier in this thread the discussion changed from the suspension >torsion bars to the torsion bars in the doors or the other way around. >The suspension torsion bars are not stainless steel, they will rust, and >I suppose they could be turned on a lathe for cleaning. The door torsion >bars are an entirely different animal. . . . Or perhaps the >moderators should just close out this thread. ------------------------------ message 1915 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1915 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Mr. Copies" Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:16:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Were the 17000 series originally the 12000 series? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01BEDB56.E07E5A40" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BEDB56.E07E5A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Here's a question.... I recently pulled my headliners to get redone and discovered the all the ma= rkings on the door behind my headliners make reference to VIN#12089 ....my = VIN# is 17089. Were the 12000 series renumbered for the Canadian market? It also looks like someone in the factory had some time on their hands beca= use there are doodles and dates on the inside with magic marker. :) Thanks mike@mrcopies.com ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BEDB56.E07E5A40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Here's a question....
 
I recently pulled my headliners to get = redone = and discovered the all the markings on the door behind my headliners make = reference to VIN#12089 ....my VIN# is 17089.  Were the 12000 series = renumbered for the Canadian market?
 
It also looks like someone in the facto= ry had = some time on their hands because there are doodles and dates on the inside = with = magic marker. :)
 
Thanks
 
------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BEDB56.E07E5A40-- ------------------------------ message 1916 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1916 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Murray Fisher" Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:40:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] (DML) LEATHER SEATS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01BEDB41.161B5600" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BEDB41.161B5600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Yes, the only leather used in the DeLorean is the seat inserts. EVERYTHING= else is a nicely matching imitation. A local upholstery man worked with= these when they were being made by a "Bridge of Weir" Connoly Leather. H= e since moved from Europe to the US and ended up here (Walla Walla, WA.) of= all places. He also worked with the Rolls leather upholstery and others. = HE says a BETTER choice tho, if you really want something to last, is Naug= ahyde. It wears much better than real leather according to him. A Lincoln= car I had a few years back had an OPTION of CLOTH upholstery. IT cost a l= ot more than Leather! Murray = Vin: 05962 Lic: DMC-XII Washington State = = ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BEDB41.161B5600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252"
Yes, the only leather used in the DeLorean is the seat inserts.  = EVERYTHING else is a nicely matching imitation.   A local upholst= ery = man worked  with these when they were being made  by a "Bridge of= = Weir" Connoly Leather.  He since moved from Europe to the US and ended= up = here (Walla Walla, WA.) of all places.  He also worked with the Rolls = leather upholstery and others.  HE says a BETTER choice tho, if you re= ally = want something to last, is Naugahyde.  It wears much better than real = leather according to him.  A Lincoln car I had a few years back had = an OPTION of CLOTH upholstery.  IT cost a lot more than Leather!<= /DIV>
 
Murray  
Vin: 05962 Lic: DMC-XII
Washington State  
 
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BEDB41.161B5600-- ------------------------------ message 1917 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1917 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Jus4sho@aol.com Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:23:26 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: LEATHER SEATS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You may be pretty disappointed, but most of the "Leather" interor is VINYL! Door panels, dash/binacle, A-pillar covers, knee pads and yes, some of the seats! There really isn't much leather at all. Steve VIN 2650 ------------------------------ message 1918 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1918 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: CBL302@aol.com Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:41:21 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: LEATHER SEATS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/31/99 10:17:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, lanceh@zeta.org.au writes: << Leather Seats!!! Well that's what I thought our DeLorean had .... until I had a closer look. I was shocked to discover that the seat insert (the center section of the seat) is leather and the remainder of the seat is synthetic. I wonder how much more of the leather interior is synthetic. I welcome comments from the field. >> On my Vin #000570,parts of the dash are leather,all the knee pads under the dash are real leather,and the crash pad by the glove box are real leather,vs the later cars are vinyl, and because of the early vin# ,you could tell that a lot of the interior parts were hand crafted,and a lot of extra time was spent on detail,vin 570 has a black interior. Claude vin 000570 ------------------------------ message 1919 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1919 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: Jus4sho@aol.com Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:51:33 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Removing Rust Stains Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Regarding rust from ordinary steel wool being used on the stainless body of a Delorean: Has anyone ever tried carefully using a high pressure power washer to actually get the steel particles out of the stainless? Rust stain cleaners will remove the stains caused as the embedded steel particles rusting, but if the particles aren't actually removed, (if they even can be) the rust stains will eventually return. I haven't actually had this problem so I haven't had a chance to test this theory, but I was just wondering if anyone has tried it or has a reason not to. Just a suggestion. Steve VIN 2650 ------------------------------ message 1920 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1920 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:20:07 -0400 From: "Aldo Buono" Mime-version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] FW: Need Parts Cross Reference Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3016272007_18649600_MIME_Part" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --MS_Mac_OE_3016272007_18649600_MIME_Part Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" content-transfer-encoding: 7bit content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" De Lorean Midatlantic, the independent De Lorean owners club of the midatlantic states (USA) maintains an up-to-date, thirty page, Parts Interchange List. It is more than just a Parts Interchange List, however. It is a parts and service resource for De Lorean owners. It keeps track of new products made by the Service Centers and others to increase the reliability of De Lorean systems. It digests the recommendations made on the De Lorean Mailing List, and publishes those that merit consideration by De Lorean owners. All of the established and reputable parts resources and service centers in the USA are listed. It is updated and published annually by De Lorean Midatlantic. I recommend to my members that they always carry it in their De Lorean. It can mean the difference between getting back on the road in one hour versus one to three days. If you have a product or service that contributes to the reliable operation and maintenance of a De Lorean Sports Car, I would like to hear from you. The Parts Interchange List is a benefit of membership in De Lorean Midatlantic. Annual membership is only $12. Our new membership packet also includes: Service Bulletin ST-33-12/81, "Water Leaks-Body"; Parts Locator/Identifier List by Jim Banto of Tri-State De Lorean Owners Club; DMC-News, Vol. 1, Num 3, which includes articles on luggage rack installation, rebuilding your mode switch, Tankzilla installation, and 140 mph speedometer conversion; our Club Membership Directory, and the latest edition of THERMO TIME, the newsletter of De Lorean Midatlantic. You may become a member by visiting our website and completing and mailing the application form found there. clubs.hemmings.com/deloreanmidatlantic/ Our website also contains our Schedule of Show and Social Events as well as pictures of club activities. -- Aldo Buono, President, De Lorean Midatlantic, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, dmc1440@earthlink.net Visit: clubs.hemmings.com/deloreanmidatlantic/ --MS_Mac_OE_3016272007_18649600_MIME_Part Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" FW: [DML] Need Parts Cross Reference
    De Lorean Midatlantic, the independ= ent De Lorean owners club of the
     midatlantic states (USA) maintains an up-to-d= ate, thirty page,  Parts Interchange
    List.  It is more than just a Parts Interchang= e List, however.
     
     It is a parts and service resource for De Lor= ean owners.  It keeps
     track of new products made by the Service Cen= ters and others to
     increase the reliability of De Lorean systems= .  It digests the
     recommendations made on the De Lorean Mailing= List, and publishes
     those that merit consideration by De Lorean o= wners.  
     
     All of the established and reputable parts re= sources and service
     centers in the USA are listed.  It is up= dated and published annually
     by De Lorean Midatlantic.  I recommend t= o my members that they always
     carry it in their De Lorean.  It can mea= n the difference between
     getting back on the road in one hour versus o= ne to three days.   
     
     If you have a product or service that contrib= utes to the reliable
     operation and maintenance of a De Lorean Spor= ts Car, I would like to
     hear from you.  
     
     The Parts Interchange List is a benefit of me= mbership in De Lorean
     Midatlantic.  Annual membership is only = $12.  Our new membership
     packet also includes: Service Bulletin ST-33-= 12/81, "Water
     Leaks-Body"; Parts Locator/Identifier Li= st by Jim Banto of Tri-State
     De Lorean Owners Club; DMC-News, Vol. 1, Num = 3, which includes
     articles on luggage rack installation, rebuil= ding your mode switch,
     Tankzilla installation, and 140 mph speedomet= er conversion; our Club
     Membership Directory, and the latest edition = of THERMO TIME, the
     newsletter of De Lorean Midatlantic.
     
     You may become a member by visiting our websi= te and completing and
     mailing the application form found there.
     
     clubs.hemmings.com/delo= reanmidatlantic/

            Our= website also contains our Schedule of Show and Social Events as well
            as = pictures of club activities.
--
Aldo Buono, President, De Lorean Midatlantic, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, d= mc1440@earthlink.net
Visit: clubs.hemmings.com/deloreanmidatlantic/

     


--MS_Mac_OE_3016272007_18649600_MIME_Part-- ------------------------------ message 1921 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1921 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Murray Fisher" Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:50:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Parts High Costs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BEDB42.8458F720" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BEDB42.8458F720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" When I see costs of parts for our DeLorean I don't blink an eye. I had a l= ate Lincoln that got the RV mirror housing broken....It required about a $1= 0 plastic housing as the rest was fine....No parts available. Buy the enti= re mirror to the tune of $300 installed, It was power and heated plus paint= ed to match the car! I tried to find a used one. Not like the old days.= Too labor intensive these days to take off a RV mirror. I checked with s= everal wrecking yards with their connections all over the USA. The ONLY th= ing ANY of them would do, was to sell me an entire door and let me take the= mirror off. Wow. Then when I go to get parts for the Lincoln they tell m= e it will take a week to 10 days if not in stock I tell them I can get ANY= DeLorean part over night if I want to pay the extra shipping!! We are lu= cky to have those stacks of parts in the warehouse. Murray VIN: 05962 Lic: DMC-XII Washington State = ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BEDB42.8458F720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252"
When I see costs of parts for our DeLorean I don't blink an eye. = I = had a late Lincoln that got the RV mirror housing broken....It required abo= ut a = $10 plastic housing as the rest was fine....No parts available.  Buy t= he = entire mirror to the tune of $300 installed, It was power and heated plus = painted to match the car!   I tried to find a used one. &nbs= p; = Not like the old days.  Too labor intensive these days to take off a R= V = mirror.  I checked with several wrecking yards with their connections = all = over the USA.  The ONLY thing ANY of them would do, was to sell me an = entire door and let me take the mirror off.  Wow.  Then when I go= to = get parts for the Lincoln they tell me it will take a week to 10 days = if = not in stock  I tell them I can get ANY DeLorean part over night = if I = want to pay the extra shipping!!   We are lucky to have those sta= cks = of parts in the warehouse.
 
Murray
VIN: 05962 Lic: DMC-XII
Washington State   
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BEDB42.8458F720-- ------------------------------ message 1922 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1922 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: ToniLFHS98@aol.com Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:27:57 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Electrical problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To all: I need help to diagnose the problem with the charging circuit on my 81 D. My ignition light stays on and my voltage meter indicated 11 volts and dropping. Since I have the original Ducellier alternator, I automatically assume that the alternator has gone bad and promptly ordered a replacement from PJ Grady. This morning after I replaced the alternator, the same problem remains. Now I am at a lost as to what's wrong. The problem with the ignition light started shortly after I have the A/C recharged with 2.5lbs of R-12 and now the A/C works beautifully. Could it be a defective replacement alternator? Thanks in advance for any info that can help solve the problem. Bill ------------------------------ message 1923 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1923 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:46:38 -0700 From: Ben Krasnow MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <199907310947.TAA31620@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Subject: [DML] Heater problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's funny to hear about heating problems in the middle of the summer, but it was cold last night, and I wish that my heater was still working! I turn the heat control all the way to the hot side, and the vent control to either the mid-level vents or the footwells, and I get zero hot air. It worked just fine the last time I used it (last winter). At first I suspected the coolant control valve was sticking in the shut position, but it is operating as it should, closing on max A/C, and open the rest of the time. If I feel the heater hose on either side of the control valve, I can tell there is hot coolant available after the engine warms up. The top aluminum pipe that carries hot coolant to the heater core is also hot near the engine. But, by the the time the pipe gets to the front of the car it is stone cold (no hot water at the heater core). Does this mean that no coolant is flowing through the pipe? Has anyone ever heard of these being blocked before? I recently changed the water pump on this car, could that have anything to do with it? Thanks again for the help! ------------------------------ message 1924 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1924 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Gerald Deutsch" Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:28:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: Were the 17000 series originally the 12000 series? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008D_01BEDB71.B3AD0280" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01BEDB71.B3AD0280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You, or the assemblers probably mistook the 7 for a 2. Understand? Your vin= has a 7 where the other number has a 2. It could have been written badly, = or just a mistake. People are human don't forget. :o) ---Dan -----Original Message----- From: Mr. Copies To: dmcnews@egroups.com Date: Saturday, July 31, 1999 3:49 PM Subject: [DML] Were the 17000 series originally the 12000 series? = = Here's a question.... = I recently pulled my headliners to get redone and discovered the all th= e markings on the door behind my headliners make reference to VIN#12089 ...= .my VIN# is 17089. Were the 12000 series renumbered for the Canadian marke= t? = It also looks like someone in the factory had some time on their hands = because there are doodles and dates on the inside with magic marker. :) = Thanks mike@mrcopies.com = ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= - = To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address mo= derato-@dmcnews.com = ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01BEDB71.B3AD0280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
You, or the assemblers probably mistook= the 7 = for a 2. Understand? Your vin has a 7 where the other number has a 2. It co= uld = have been written badly, or just a mistake. People are human don't forget. = :o) = ---Dan
-----Original Message-----
<= B>From: = Mr. Copies <mrcopies@jet2.net>
To: <= /B>dmcnews@egroups.com <dmcnews@egroups.com>
D= ate: = Saturday, July 31, 1999 3:49 PM
Subject: [DML] Were the 1= 7000 = series originally the 12000 series?

Here's a question....
 
I recently pulled my headliners to = get = redone and discovered the all the markings on the door behind my headli= ners = make reference to VIN#12089 ....my VIN# is 17089.  Were the 12000 = series renumbered for the Canadian market?
 
It also looks like someone in the f= actory = had some time on their hands because there are doodles and dates on the= = inside with magic marker. :)
 
Thanks
 
To address comments privately to the moderating team, = please address moderato-@dmcnews.com =
------=_NextPart_000_008D_01BEDB71.B3AD0280-- ------------------------------ message 1925 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1925 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: JCox4001@aol.com Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:37:47 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Orlando area servicing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I apoligize that I did not get then Name of the individual looking for help in Orlando, or I would have e-mailed privately. I bought my Delorean from Sunshine Classics in Kissimmee. The had done alot of service work on my car with the previous owner. The owner of the shop is Steven Clarke. They deal in rare, exotic, and muscle cars. If you want more info, please e-mail me privately. They are extremely professional. Jeff ------------------------------ message 1926 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1926 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <002f01bedb80$ca689160$845532d1@mrcopies> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:10:29 -0500 From: James Espey Subject: [DML] Re: VINs (was Were the 17000 series originally the 12000?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I looked under some headliners on the 82 and 83's we have here in the shop: VIN 11004 JAN 82 - says V11004 on both doors, under the headliner VIN 16328 AUG 82 - says V11328 on both doors, under the headliner VIN 16428 AUG 82 - says V11428 on both doors, under the headliner What I want to know now is, Ray Haug owns 16348 AUG 82 - what's under his headliner? Also, Bryan Pearce owns 11529 JAN 82 - the way the doors are marked on 16328 and 16428, you'd think his would be 16529, not 11529. In fact, Knut, owns 16344, have you ever had your headliners off and looked? The story grows more curious... James At 1:16 PM -0500 7/31/99, Mr. Copies wrote: > Here's a question.... I recently pulled my headliners to get redone >and discovered the all the markings on the door behind my headliners make >reference to VIN#12089 ....my VIN# is 17089. Were the 12000 series >renumbered for the Canadian market? It also looks like someone in the >factory had some time on their hands because there are doodles and dates >on the inside with magic marker. :) Thanks mike@mrcopies.com At 1:16 PM -0500 7/31/99, Mr. Copies wrote: > Here's a question.... I recently pulled my headliners to get redone >and >discovered the all the markings on the door behind my headliners make >>reference to VIN#12089 ....my VIN# is 17089. Were the 12000 series >renumbered >for the Canadian market? It also looks like someone in the >factory had some >time on their hands because there are doodles and dates on the inside with >magic marker. :) Thanks mike@mrcopies.com ------------------------------ message 1927 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1927 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:04:41 -0400 From: ryan arsenault MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Darkening Polishes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi list. I read about the different stainless steel polishes that are out on the market. I have read of how some darken the stainless steel. This is not a good thing, right? What can you recommend as the best polish to use? ------------------------------ message 1928 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1928 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Dave Swingle" Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:52:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] ADMIN: DMCNEWS Web Page Updated Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After a few weeks working on the web page (and my FP2000 skills), I'm finally ready to have you check it out. Go to www.dmcnews.com and take a look. I've been cleaning up the pages, fixing links, etc. I've hopefully streamlined the structure a little. There's still work to do on the directory and backissues, but it's coming. More features are planned now that I'm about done with the basic setup. First - if you've bookmarked the page as www.delorean.com, PLEASE add a link to www.dmcnews.com. "Delorean.com" will probably be changing to something else in the future (it is still "owned" by James Espey), and I'd hate to have you lose track of the mailing list page. I've added a section near the top of the main page that gives the quick links to subscription management. It also gives current status of the list including the number of subscribers and the number of bouncing subscribers. If there are any known operational problems they will be noted here. If you ever stop receiving the mailing list, check here for any information that I may have posted and instructions on how to get it fixed. We've added information about the moderation team. Some of us are a little shy, but hopefully that will change. The DMCNews store remains closed. There is currently no stock to sell. The information remains posted on the items that were sold here just for reference purposes. I'll eventually make it look more like reference material. Many more cars for sale have been added. I've been pleasantly surprised about the popularity of this feature. There are now 34 cars listed for sale, all around the world and in all price ranges from $9,999 to a pair for $55k, including a dealer sign. I'd like to change the headline photo periodically, perhaps once a month if I get enough quality entries. If you have an original, interesting photo of YOUR DeLorean that you'd like to see here feel free to send me the picture at webmaster@dmcnews.com. I can deal with just about any electronic or paper format. Email privately for an address if you need to send paper. I'm especially looking for "artistic" (whatever that means) shots of the car, in unusual locations or with interesting lighting effects. Please don't bother submitting photos that you have pulled from other sites on the internet or other copyrighted material. Comments and suggestions are welcome. Dave ------------------------------ message 1929 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1929 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: "Dave Swingle" Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:57:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] ADMIN: Bouncing Emails - what to do Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tonight I reset all 75 members that were "bouncing". Most of these are people with "Hotmail" addresses, my guess is that they don't give you a very big mailbox and start bouncing messages when the mailbox fills up. When this happens eGroups sends out a "message" warning you that you are about to be put on hold, if the warning note bounces you are changed to "bouncing" status and the mail stops being sent to you. I'm hoping that this message get through to the boucing members that may have thought the list just went away. This is the last time I'll do this, in the future if you notice the DMCNews stops coming in the mail, please drop a note to moderator@dmcnews.com and ask to be reset. dave ------------------------------ message 1930 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1930 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:22:53 -0700 From: Hickman MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] older or newer model Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i am a new member of this mailing thing. i am going to buy a delorean as soon as i find the right one. i was wondering if i should get the first year model or the last year model because of updates, and do you guys support my decision. alright, ian ------------------------------ message 1931 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1931 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:15:55 -0600 (MDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 From: raddad@cmn.net Subject: [DML] Re: Darkening Polishes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Hi list. I read about the different stainless steel polishes that are >out on the market. I have read of how some darken the stainless steel. >This is not a good thing, right? What can you recommend as the best >polish to use? ---------------------------- Ryan, the darkening is not permanent. It is just that the residue from the polish (usually a petroleum distillate) makes the stainless look darker. Soap and water or window cleaner will return it to its original "shade". Favorite polishes are like noses - everyone has one, but they are all different. Though a tad expensive, I'd currently recommend trying the new SS Gloss from DMC. Dick Ryan VIN 16867 (don't know what is under my headliners) ------------------------------ message 1932 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1932 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ From: OZZMAN283@aol.com Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:55:15 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: wanting to trade GTO for a D in a local museum-need help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit that seems like a lot for a d with that much wrong with it ------------------------------ message 1933 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=1933 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 00:16:02 -0400 (EDT) From: William T Wilson In-Reply-To: <37A3E7BD.F0DF4013@vol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [DML] Re: older or newer model Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Hickman wrote: > as soon as i find the right one. i was wondering if i should get the > first year model or the last year model because of updates, and do you > guys support my decision. Doesn't make any difference. At this point the single biggest factor in the quality of the car is how it has been maintained. The recalls are not particularly hard or expensive to do, and just about any well-maintained car will have had them all done already anyway. The best thing to do is to simply look for a good car, and not worry about the model year. ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- View the full archives, subscribe/unsubscribe, use the group calendar at http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews Manage your subscriptions at http://eGroups.com Free e-mail groups by eGroups.com. 
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