If you think it sucks now, you should have seen it a year ago. It wasn't uncommon for there to be no more than one post a month. Many months would go by where I would wonder if the DML even existed anymore. I was an early member of the DML back I'm the late 90s and I must say that James did a great job at moderating it. I couldn't believe how much work he would do to filter posts. I stayed on the DML until around 2003 until I realized I would never own a Delorean. In 2009 I ended up purchasing a Delorean and it was a no brained to get back on the DML. I knew nothing about DMCTalk at the time. A few days after I got home with my car I jammed the power locks shut while the doors were open. It wasn't until the next day when I got a response. That's not fun for a newbie when he needs help now. I ended up having to cover the car with a blue tarp and rope to keep it "shut". After a few days I learned about DMCtalk and how I could post questions and get answers in realtime. As a newbie it was a no brainier to switch to DMCTalk because I could get help fast. I pretty much gave up on the DML because I couldn't get help when I needed it. Fast forward about 2 years. I got locked in my car while it was about 100 degrees outside. Fortunately I had a smart phone and was able to post on DMCTalk. Within minutes people were responding and helping me get out of the car. That wouldn't have happened if I had to wait for a moderator to approve a post and then wait again for him to approve an answer. The only reason I post here again is because I know I can get help and help others quickly. An added perk is there are a few seasoned owners in this group suck as Mark Levy, Captain Carb, and even John Hervey. I suspect there are a few other seasoned owners on here who choose to stay away from DMCTalk as well. If this forum goes back to heavy moderation it's just going to appear to be non existent like it was a year ago. Shoot, has anyone noticed that the website dmcnews.com doesn't even work anymore? Every time I try going to it I just get redirected to a delorean webring. -- Steve Rice #16510 On Aug 22, 2012, at 2:39 AM, "Welmoed" <welmoedj@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I'm one of the newer members, but I heartily agree with your lament. > Let's stay with proper and related subjects and if someone starts boasting each time, don't respond. > Stay helpful and social and away from throwing mud. > Those "will/will not", "should/should not", etc. dogfights do not belong here nor on any forum. > > Welmoed. > > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Rob Greenhaw <wylldshark@...> wrote: >> >> As someone who has been a member of the DML since ~late '98/early '99 (honestly I've forgotten it's been so long), and used to enjoy opening my email and reading through threads, I must admit I am sorely disappointed at what the list has evolved into. >> >> What used to be *the* preeminent DeLorean source on the World Wide Web has slowly devolved into a cesspool of petty bickering and bitching from a handful of people - some of whom used to be very good posters on the DML. >> >> I joined this group right before it went to e-groups when I was in 9th grade, eating up everything DeLorean that I could devour when I got online, so while I'm not a prolific poster, I am very much a long-timer. For the first time in my life I've begun considering unsubscribing to the list due to the incessant and asinine arguing that goes on now. >> >> There is still good information to be had here, but where a majority of the crap would be filtered out to let the quality come through, the lack of moderation has led to the inverse occurring. >> >> I've always heard that "the cream rises to the top", but damn if poop don't float at first as well. >> >> Please, as someone who grew up from a hopeful enthusiast to being an actual owner thanks to the information learned through years of quality posts and meaningful discussions, can we implement some form of direction and control similar to when James, Knut, Mike, etc. ran the list "with an iron fist". >> >> Yearning for the days of yore, >> Robert Greenhaw >> VIN 791 >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx > > For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com > > To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! 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