Re: [DML] For the Record: Byrne's LCA's and Ed's Brackets

["Martin Gutkowski" <martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I read what you write. Do YOU ever read what you write?

 "Together, Byrne's LCA's and Ed's brackets take the DeLorean driving experience to places even JZD never imagined in his boldest fantasies."

1) I could point out JZD's love of the NSX but you were just trolling.
2) Your clear inference is that in combination they transform the handling, yet the LCA does not affect handling!
 
Martin

 

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Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 13:24:13 
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Subject: Re: [DML] For the Record: Byrne's LCA's and Ed's Brackets

Do you even bother reading my posts before knee jerk disagreeing?

"I do think that they need to be installed as a set. Installing either without
the other is like making a sandwich without meat, or eating baloney without
bread. Together, Byrne's LCA's and Ed's brackets take the DeLorean driving
experience to places even JZD never imagined in his boldest fantasies."

I honestly think that if I said "the sky is blue," you would respond that it actually was a shade of turquoise just to be contrary.

As I have said from day one onwards, Byrne's arms *AND* Ed's outriggers go together as a set (Message #82558, quoted here in its entirety because Martin does not like rereading messages by numbers):

"I just drove from the NC/SC border to DC on my new front suspension: Byrne's
LCA's *AND* Ed's outriggers. The combined effect is nothing short of
revolutionary. This is the way these cars should have been built in the first
place. If people promise not to crash my car, I will let them test drive it at
DMA this weekend.

Anyone who has ever removed their sway bar knows how floppy OEM LCA's are (let's
be brutally honest -- they're unacceptably floppy even with the sway bar in
place). Even before my sway bar was reattached, the lower "wishbones" had
absolutely no fore/aft movement whatsoever.

Bill Robertson
#5939"

Sheesh.

Bill Robertson
#5939


--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Martin Gutkowski" <martin@...> wrote:
>
> Byrne's LCA's are a worthy replacement for the NLA originals, however you have no evidence that they alone affect handling in any way. 
> 
> Apart from adding un-sprung weight, they should have no effect whatsoever (other than a possible placebo)
> 
> Martin
> 
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "content22207" <brobertson@...>
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> Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 05:09:50 
> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [DML] For the Record: Byrne's LCA's and Ed's Brackets
> 
> For the record:
> 
> I can not say enough nice things about Byrne's LCA's. They are extremely durable. They do not twist or torque one little bit. They also are not prone to rust or crack. That is why I have a set on both my cars. If I win Ken's raffle car, it will be getting a pair of Byrne's arms as well.
> 
> With a couple of minor installation modifications (butting them against hardened steel washers rather than against the shock tower, and overlaying their bushing lips with fender washers), I can not say enough nice things about Ed's outer support brackets. They are the closest thing to a lower wishbone currently on the market. In conjunction with Byrne's LCA's, they revolutionize the car. That is why I have them on both my cars. If I win Ken's raffle car, it will be getting Uding brackets as well.
> 
> Anyone who ever insinuates that I do not like either Byrne's arms or Ed's brackets is just plain wrong. I have never said even one bad word about either. From the first time I test drove my new suspension onwards, I have had nothing but good things to say about both.
> 
> I do think that they need to be installed as a set. Installing either without the other is like making a sandwich without meat, or eating baloney without bread. Together, Byrne's LCA's and Ed's brackets take the DeLorean driving experience to places even JZD never imagined in his boldest fantasies.
> 
> Anyone who doubts my enthusiasm for a Byrne/Uding combo is commended to read this thread: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/82558
> 
> Bill Robertson
> #5939
> 
> 
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