You couldn't be more incorrect if you tried -- I am one of the most vocal advocates of Byrnes arms. They run multiple laps around cheap folded low grade thin gauge OEM LCA's. I've got them on both my cars. Combined with Ed's outriggers, Byrne's arms come very close to the kind of suspension these stupid little cars should have been built with in the first place. My favorite comment from an owner who test drove my car at FFT'11: "it feels like a modern car now." Those of you stubbornly hanging on to your cheap folded low grade thin gauge OEM LCA's don't know what you're missing. It's like trying to describe a juicy freshly cooked streak to people who only know left over end of the day at closing time McDonald's hamburgers. Remember: While Byrne's arms are indeed indestructible, they do need a set of Ed's outriggers to very closely approximate lower wishbones: http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/377600_267044393340818_100001057778755_815782_508450166_n.jpg http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/311305_267046116673979_100001057778755_815787_1268352523_n.jpg It's a 1-2 knockout combo. Note also that Byrne's arms are the only replacement LCA's currently available. If your cheap folded low grade thin gauge OEM LCA's commit suicide, you're either going to buy a pair of Byrne's, or you're going to walk. Bill Robertson #5939 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@...> wrote: > > Byrne, > > I don't think anyone was implying your product had a problem. I know Bill may like to make it seem that way, but it is not the case. > > A few people (myself included) have pointed out that Mike Loasby (who himself built a true wishbone LCA) expressed concern with limiting the forward/aft movement of the LCA too much as it could potentially cause a failure on the ARB because it will not be free to travel the natural arc. > > Bill somehow twisted that in to people predicting the imminent failure of his suspension setup- something that is quite far from the truth. > > It is a shame you, and your product got dragged in to this ridiculous cry for attention.... But, as they say- "There is no such thing as bad publicity except your own obituary.". > > > With all of that said, Have you (Byrne) ever thought of making a true wishbone LCA? I think if properly designed (to make sure there is tolerance for the ARB arc of travel), it would be a huge improvement to the front suspension design. Maybe even make a new ARB without the stop/nut so it can "float" in the LCA bushing (sounds risky, but with proper design/testing.....)? > > Thanks. > > > --- On Tue, 5/1/12, byrne heninger <heningerandassoc@...> wrote: > > > From: byrne heninger <heningerandassoc@...> > > Subject: [DML] Heninger LCA Tested and Proven History > > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 1:23 PM > > Hello Group, > > It may be of interest to know we have produced and > > installed many Heninger > > LCA over the past 18 years and " none have folded or > > collapsed". Byrne > ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/