One spare is typically adequate (which I do carry *UNDER* my trucks' beds, and which I have used on occasion). How many times have you passed someone changing a tire on the side of the road? Do you not think the same could ever possibly happen to you? Have you taken the spare tire out of your PT Cruiser? I can't believe people are seriously arguing against spare tires.... Bill Robertson #5939 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Farrar Hudkins <fhudkins@...> wrote: > > In my opinion... > > Forget the DeLorean. Just travel in a pickup truck with as many spare tires > in the bed as you can fit. > > ... in my opinion. > > Farrar Hudkins > #2613 > > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:46 PM, content22207 <brobertson@...>wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > I was 400 miles from my destination when I left DC last night. Wonder how > > much it would have cost to have my DeLorean hauled home, especially for > > something as simple as a flat tire? (Given the condition of pavement around > > Richmond VA, both I-95 and I-295 -- I drove both, a sliced sidewall is a > > very real possibility). > > > > If spare tires are such a bad idea, why did DMC put one, pitiful though it > > may be, under the hood in the first place? > > > > Anyone who travels long distance without a usable spare tire is taking a > > completely *AVOIDABLE* risk. > > > > Bill Robertson > > #5939 > > > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "DarkStar Media" <darkstarmedia@> > > wrote: > > > > > > In that rare case u can usually call another tow company and AAA will > > > reimburse you. In one case where I was about 80 miles away from my > > > destination, AAA's company for that area wouldn't send a driver because > > they > > > did not want to drive that far. > > > > > > I called another tow company (as instructed) and AAA took care of me > > after > > > the fact. > > > > > > Also keep in mind that AAA is different from state to state. > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of > > > Stephen Rice > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:15 AM > > > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: Re: [DML] Serious Megasquirt Question > > > > > > > > > > > > The driver can deny to tow your car. I've been there and I canceled AAA > > > shortly after that incident. > > > > > > -Steve Rice > > > #16510 > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:04 AM, DarkStar Media <darkstarmedia@ > > > <mailto:darkstarmedia%40comcast.net> > wrote: > > > > Actually AAA will tow you wherever you want to go. If you elect to > > > > have yourself towed to a closed tire shop, who's fault is it? > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> ] > > > > On Behalf Of > > > > content22207 > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 12:21 AM > > > > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > Subject: Re: [DML] Serious Megasquirt Question > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As I explained in Message #84549 I have two ignition modules in my > > > > car: the Duraspark module that is my primary ignition controller, and > > > > the original Bosch unit which is currently sitting idle. Because no > > > > wiring mods were made, I can switch between them at will: if the > > > > Duraspark unit ever fails, all I have to do is plug the Bosch module in > > > and get right back on the road. > > > > > > > > Duraspark modules are of course stock items at all parts houses, but > > > > that wouldn't do me any good after hours (like now: I've just gotten > > > > in from a nocturnal drive back to North Carolina). > > > > > > > > I also carry a full size 50,000 mile steel belted radial spare tire. > > > > If I ever get a flat tire in the middle of the night (or during > > > > daylight hours on a weekend), I can get right back on the road. I > > > > could drive through state after state after state on my spare, at > > > > highway speeds, if necessary. I did drive all over the DC area on it > > > > once looking for an in stock 235/60-15 tire (sliced sidewall -- no way > > > > to repair that). Note that AAA will only tow you to one tire shop and > > > > leave you there -- if the shop is closed, or if they don't have your > > > > tire size in stock, you're screwed. Any owner who doesn't carry a > > > > usable spare tire is just asking for trouble, especially with pavement > > > > coming apart these days (the jagged edge of a pothole claimed my > > > > sidewall). There also is a lot of crap on the roads that can puncture a > > > tire (does AAA plug tires on the side of the road?). > > > > > > > > Bill Robertson > > > > #5939 > > > > > > > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> > > > <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> , "Owen" > > > > <omalbec@> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> What is your contingency plan today should your stock Ignition > > > >> Control > > > > Unit craps out (it is 30+ years old after all)? Or your stock RPM > > > > relay? Or your fuel pump? Or.... we can play this game all night. It > > > > doesn't matter one iota if your fuel delivery is mechanical if your > > > > spark control is electronic. > > > >> > > > >> I for one believe that whether one is K-Jetted, carburetted or EFI'd, > > > >> AAA > > > > or classic insurance with towing package is probably a prudent > > > > investment. I don't care what your fueling mechanism, if you lose your > > > > spark control, you're screwed. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >> <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> , > > > > "content22207" <brobertson@> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > I mean controller replacement. My little brother had to replace the > > > > onboard computer in his Oldsmobile not too long ago. For some reason > > > > the thing died while he was at work. > > > >> > > > > >> > Onboard electronics do die. I helped a DeLorean owner last year > > > >> > whose > > > > Bosch ignition module had died (his dead ECU donated the harness > > > > connector for the adapter my Duraspark module is using). > > > >> > > > > >> > All electronic devices are subject to failure. It is > > > >> > unrealistically > > > > optimistic to claim that one's own devices will never fail. If I was > > > > totally dependent upon an onboard controller for my fuel delivery, I > > > > would definitely have a contingency plan. > > > >> > > > > >> > Bill Robertson > > > >> > #5939 > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >> > <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> , > > > > "DarkStar Media" <darkstarmedia@> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Define "dies"... > > > >> > > > > > >> > > If the computer shorts out it's dead anyway and no laptop or > > > >> > > phone will do anything about it, just like any ECU. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Baring that they are extremely reliable and once setup just run > > > >> > > and > > > > run. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > If there is a re-boot while running (usually only if you are > > > >> > > screwing with > > > >> > > it) you see a hiccup but the MS ECU tends to recover before the > > > >> > > engine drops more than 100rpm (think slight stumble). > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Richard > > > >> > > > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > > > >> > > From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >> > > <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >> > > [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >> > > <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >> > > <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >> > > ] On Behalf Of > > > >> > > content22207 > > > >> > > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 3:31 PM > > > >> > > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >> > > <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >> > > Subject: [DML] Serious Megasquirt Question > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > If the onboard controller dies, do you have to reload all the > > > >> > > fuel maps from scratch? If so, is there a smartphone interface so > > > >> > > you don't have to upload them from a laptop? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > I'm thinking about what happens if the controller dies while > > > >> > > you're on a trip. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On my own car I am only dependent upon the ignition ECU, and I > > > >> > > carry a spare for that (Duraspark is my primary ECU and the > > > >> > > original Bosch unit is my backup). > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Bill Robertson > > > >> > > #5939 > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > > > > moderators@ <mailto:moderators%40dmcnews.com> > > > > > > > > For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see > > > > www.dmcnews.com > > > > > > > > To search the archives or view files, log in at > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! 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