Re: [DML] Re: JZD Was Brilliant!

[Jack Singer <jack4545@xxxxxxxxx>]

Door fitment issues that I have seen are from sprung doors, not roof issues.  In fact I have restored over a dozen deloreans and have never seen any issues with the roof.  Give it up Bill.
Jack.

--- On Fri, 3/16/12, content22207 <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: content22207 <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [DML] Re: JZD Was Brilliant!
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, March 16, 2012, 7:44 PM
















 



  


    
      
      
      Please don't make me drop my DeLorean on its roof to prove you wrong.



Will you accept the increasing number of owners with door fitment issues as their roof boxes deteriorate as evidence instead?



Bill Robertson

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--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Martin Gutkowski" <martin@...> wrote:

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> So you have no evidence the roof is weak. 

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> The windscreen adds rigidity but it isn't the source of the strength of the roof. 

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> It'd be entirely irresponsible for the original engineers to not consider the car rolling when engineering its structure. To suggest otherwise would "beyond ridiculous".

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> Martin

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> -----Original Message-----

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> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 20:48:29 

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> A DeLorean can't even hold its own doors up without the windshield in place. Structural windshields are hardly new, but typically that is a crash worthiness feature, not part of the car's day to day design (if you don't mind bugs in your teeth, normal cars can be driven just fine with their windshields removed).

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> Not to be the bearer of bad news, but fiberglass and rusty sheet metal (that is coming unglued) is not exactly a recipe for strength.

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> At least normal cars have tubular steel A and B pillars -- we can't even claim that.

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> Did Lotus ever try to crash test a DeLorean roof? I've never seen evidence of it -- only front end barrier testing.

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> Just for the sake of argument, lets imagine you rolled a DeLorean and the roof survived -- how would you get out of the car?

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> Bill Robertson

> #5939

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> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Martin Gutkowski" <martin@> wrote:

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> > Have you any evidence for their "weakness"?

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> > Martin

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> > Sent from my BlackBerry®

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> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: "content22207" <brobertson@>

> > Sender: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

> > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:54:52 

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> > Subject: [DML] Re: JZD Was Brilliant!

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> > You forgot to mention that Bricklins also have roll cages. DeLorean roof structures are so weak I doubt they could survive a rollover.

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> > Bill Robertson

> > #5939

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> > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "cbl302@" <cbl302@> wrote:

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> > > A Bricklin DOES the same thing...and ONE better..it HAS roll down Windows..which are Non-electric..meaning so that in a accident or whatever reason, they can be rolled down..and exited through the opening..or though the Hatch as the cable operated hatch release lever is right next to the drivers seat..unlike the Delorean you can NEVER get locked into a Bricklin...even upside down..

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> > > Claude

> > > 1024

> > > bric 

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> > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Harold" <hmcelraft@> wrote:

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> > > > Bob

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> > > > It is a great design.

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> > > > When I lived in Houston (where it once rained a lot) getting in and out of the DeLorean when it was raining was so nice - I could stand under the raised door, close the umbrella and store it, then get into the car - dry. I haven't found anything else similar - except maybe a doorman - which I rarely encounter.

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> > > > Harold McElraft - 3354

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> > > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Bob Brandys <BobB@> wrote:

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> > > > > Well, it is the Gull Wing door design!  Sure gull wind doors are cool.  BUT- they make it easy to get in and out of a low sports car.

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> > > > > Another example of JZDs Brilliant design!

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> > > > > Bob

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