I'm just being pedantic about terminology. It's a curse I carry - having been raised by a mechanical engineer and now being one myself! My favourite is that "plastic" is not a material, it's a property most polymers have. Martin Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: "K.L. (KAYO) Ong" <klo@xxxxxxxxx> Sender: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 03:13:49 To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DML] Modified Trailing Arms For 1/2" Bolts Hi Martin: True, except carbon fiber is not a metal, which can not be included in this topic for comparison... Kayo On Feb 8, 2012, at 2:53 AM, Martin Gutkowski wrote: > Actually while hard materials tend to be brittle, it's not the same > thing. Soft is not the same as ductile - eg carbon fibre composite > has a very high tensile strength and low ductility but is nowhere > near as hard as even aluminium. > > Hardness is a surface property, brittleness (resistance to crack > propagation) and tensile strength, modulus of elasticity and > ductility are all structural properties. > > Martin > Sent from my BlackBerry® [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/