[DML] Re: Upgraded Front Suspension

["content22207" <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Fail -- if the sway bar had sharp 90 degree bends, as Lotus eventually went to on its own cars, it would not bend as easily (same principle DMC was trying to accomplish with the 90 bends at the bottom of an OEM LCA).

Please try again.

Bill Robertson
#5939


--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Martin Gutkowski" <martin@...> wrote:
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> It is indeed compliant but the bushes are responsible for the majority of *excess* movement. The angle plays very little part in this.
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> The sway bar is a giant spring. If you stand one on end and pull on it, they are springy as can be. Combined with the 45 degree bend to the crumple extension mounts, they exert very little restraining influence on the LCA. That is why the LCA pulls backwards so badly during braking.
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> Try again.
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> Bill Robertson
> #5939
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> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Martin Gutkowski" <martin@> wrote:
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> > The LCA is triangulated by the ARB unless you eliminate that effect!
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> > Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:29:13 
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> > I suspect Ed wanted more triangulation. Imagine standing with your feet together versus standing with your feet apart. 
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> > Those of you running skinny lower control arms (which pinch in and get ever skinnier at the pivot bushing BTW) have no idea what you are missing.
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> > Bill Robertson
> > #5939
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> > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@> wrote:
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> > > I agree with that Martin, but Ed's use of bushings on both ends of that custom rod (looks like a modified rear link), it may still have enough forward/aft movement to accommodate the arc of the ARB.  
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> > > Anyone know why Ed felt this solution was better than his own bolt-on "outriggers"?  (is that the official name?)
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> > > --- On Fri, 10/28/11, Martin Gutkowski <martin@> wrote:
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> > > > Even that isn't a true wishbone
> > > > because there's compliance between the original LCA and the
> > > > reinforcement. That needs to be a solid connection in order
> > > > for it to be a true wishbone, which is the ultimate goal.
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