The sway bar is a giant spring. If you stand one on end and pull on it, they are springy as can be. Combined with the 45 degree bend to the crumple extension mounts, they exert very little restraining influence on the LCA. That is why the LCA pulls backwards so badly during braking. Try again. Bill Robertson #5939 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Martin Gutkowski" <martin@...> wrote: > > The LCA is triangulated by the ARB unless you eliminate that effect! > > Sent from my BlackBerry® > > -----Original Message----- > From: "content22207" <brobertson@...> > Sender: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:29:13 > To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [DML] Re: Upgraded Front Suspension > > I suspect Ed wanted more triangulation. Imagine standing with your feet together versus standing with your feet apart. > > Those of you running skinny lower control arms (which pinch in and get ever skinnier at the pivot bushing BTW) have no idea what you are missing. > > Bill Robertson > #5939 > > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@> wrote: > > > > I agree with that Martin, but Ed's use of bushings on both ends of that custom rod (looks like a modified rear link), it may still have enough forward/aft movement to accommodate the arc of the ARB. > > > > Anyone know why Ed felt this solution was better than his own bolt-on "outriggers"? (is that the official name?) > > > > > > --- On Fri, 10/28/11, Martin Gutkowski <martin@> wrote: > > > > > > > Even that isn't a true wishbone > > > because there's compliance between the original LCA and the > > > reinforcement. That needs to be a solid connection in order > > > for it to be a true wishbone, which is the ultimate goal. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderators@... > > For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com > > To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links > ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/