Re: [DML] Upgraded Front Suspension

["content22207" <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Steve Rice is running a pair of Byrne's arms without outriggers. He can respond to that hypothesis.

Bill Robertson
#5939

--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Martin Gutkowski" <martin@...> wrote:
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> Ed's setup attempts to restrain the fore/aft movement of the arm altogether when there is a reason for it in the first place. While it fixes the excessive aft movement under braking, it also constrains the intended movement. 
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> It tries to be a wishbone in a system that can't accommodate one. You're reliant on very limited compliance for the suspension to move at all.
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> To a driver, I'm sure Byrne's arms are indistinguishable from a set of good originals except where unsprung weight is concerned! 
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> Martin
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> Then why all the wailing and gnashing of teeth about the swaybar arc?
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> Bottom line: Ed's outriggers, especially with a pair of Byrne's arms, feel better than a stock suspension. Even owners with boxed LCA's and standard LCA with polyurethane bushings say the outriggers (and arms) feel better. IMHO it is the single most revolutionary change you can make to the car, especially if you spend as much time on the road as I do.
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> Bill Robertson
> #5939
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> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Martin Gutkowski" <martin@> wrote:
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> > Ed's setup is still compliant fore/aft, it does not give you a true wishbone.
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> > Martin
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> > Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 02:11:58 
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> > Not necessary -- just add a pair of Ed's outriggers and you have the same thing.
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> > When I get back to North Carolina I will take a bunch of pictures of my suspension and upload them to my Facebook page (public access). That will also give people a chance to see how well 10-15 coats of brushed Rustoleum holds up to punishing road conditions (as attendees to FFT'11 can attest, DC has *WORSE* pavement than New York City).
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> > Bill Robertson
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> > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@> wrote:
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> > > so, convince Byrne to make them wishbone style...  Like what Grady has on his green car.
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> > > --- On Thu, 10/27/11, content22207 <brobertson@> wrote:
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> > > > Byrne's LCA's. which are hulking 7.5
> > > > lbs masses of metal, would serve you well in NYC. They are
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