Re: [DML] JZD's Drug Trial

[Nick Kemp <nkemp@xxxxxxxx>]

My point is simple... regardless of all he did wrong or what he should 
have done differently, JZD did accomplish a lot. Starting a new car 
company and delivering a product is not in insignificant accomplishment. 
Besides, I've seen more than one high level executive (or politician...) 
take credit for things they had little involvement (...which politician 
took credit for the WWW) or to make decisions that were questionable 
(and still receive huge bonuses). As such I choose to not idolize nor 
demonize the man.

I do not have a problem with this thread proceeding but there could be a 
similar thread discussing his and DMC's accomplishments.

Nick

content22207 wrote , ----On 10/25/2011 10:22 PM 
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>
> Just imagine how much better the story would have turned out if JZD 
> had in fact been as ethical, or simply as competent, as his fanciful 
> PR made him out to be.
>
> Am I the only person who has read researched and vetted books on the man?
>
> Anyone care to dispute that JZD took credit for developing the GTO 
> when in fact he developed the Tempest instead?
>
> Anyone care to dispute that JZD publicly claimed to hold more than 200 
> patents when the actual number is about 50?
>
> Anyone care to dispute that JZD inflated public reports of his GM 
> salary more than 100%? (He inflated the public reports in less than 12 
> months).
>
> Anyone care to dispute that JZD cheated Walter Avrea out of hundreds 
> of millions of dollars in royalties, that he raided the coffers of 
> Saf-Gard for personal use, and that he left a mountain of unpaid bills 
> in his wake after leaving the company?
>
> Anyone care to dispute that JZD siphoned at least $17 million of 
> British money into GPD?
>
> Anyone care to dispute that JZD squandered DMC resources in side 
> ventures that were prohibited by the NIDA agreement (the bus, the snow 
> cat, the airport tug, and God only knows what else)?
>
> Anyone care to dispute that JZD did not spend 6 months in Belfast 
> working on the car as required in the NIDA agreement? (Actually that 
> might have been a blessing -- JZD probably would have screwed it up as 
> badly as he screwed up everything else he was personally involved in 
> since leaving the insular cocoon of GM).
>
> Anyone care to dispute that JZD hired Bill Collins and Mike Loasby to 
> engineer the car, then refused to even listen to their objections as a 
> slipshod product was designed by Lotus alone?
>
> Anyone care to dispute that JZD refused to consider any salvage plan 
> for the company that required him to invest his own money, or 
> relinquish his control?
>
> Anyone care to dispute that JZD said "yes" on the FBI videotapes, that 
> he laughed and proclaimed a package of cocaine "as good as gold," and 
> drank a glass of champagne to celebrate his newest venture (drug running)?
>
> That people idolize this man baffles me still.
>
> Bill Robertson
> #5939
>
> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com>, 
> Nick Kemp <nkemp@...> wrote:
> >
> > Let's discuss the positive things he did do, either directly or 
> indirectly:
> > - he started a car company
> > - he set the vision of what the car should accomplish
> > - he pulled together a team to impliment that vision and developed our
> > passion/obsession
> > - he secured financing
> > - he delivered the car to the market
> > - he delivered something truly unique for its time
> >
> > Other...
> >
>
> 



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