Looking at the whois for dmctalk.com it shows "Domains By Proxy" (owned by godaddy) as the registrar. It may have been hosted on a separate server but unless the registration ran out by over 45 days, Assuming Tamir is the actual godaddy customer, he should have been able to renew. He now has the .org and if the site was hosted somewhere else he could point the new domain and be up and running.. There has to be a bit more to this. I tried to give him a call and see if I could help but a recording says he is away till May 17th.. If Tamir or anyone closely related to the site sees this, give me a call and I would be happy to help with getting it back up and running. I have a vbull subscription I am not using and can provide whatever he needs as far as hosting. I am listed in the owners directory Steve #2700 ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve T. Gove To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [DML] Re: Go Daddy? Agreed Hank. Many however, don't understand the difference between registering and hosting, and your comment below is correct. This is much different than hosting providers who buy domains on your > behalf > (through themselves or any ICANN accredited registrar) and offer all-in-one > packages (domains, email, web hosting, etc). In that situation, yes, you > can lose control of your domains. > Many do loose control of both over that idea. Steve > __ugh to take everything you have ... The course of history shows that > as a government grows, liberty decreases." - Thomas Jefferson > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/