David: I luv ya... But let me introduce some of my points of view... With the DeLorean, to see or to inspect the under carriage completely and clearly it needs to be on a lift with ample lights. To me an oil change is just oil change unless I am complimenting it with a tune up or other work on the DeLorean, then I may be going over the DeLorean with a fine toothcomb. If I change oil twice a year, I am not sure if it would constitute as "regular inspection?" When I am doing an oil change, I would be just looking onto the right rear end of the car and the filter's motor area and that is all that is visually available. With my lowered DeLorean and unless I am on a crawler and the DeLorean is on four point jacked, I would not be able to go completely around underneath the DeLorean. So, inspection is out of the question for me and I leave inspections to Rob at PJ Grady. As far as someone to "reach under and let the oil out?" That is my least of the vandalism act that I would worry about. What I would worry about is someone keying the car, doing scratchitti or acid graffiti of the glass areas or doing some other destructive act. Many times I would park on the streets in NYC and my DeLorean have never been bother -- Only with fingerprints!!! I get more people "bothering" my old Bentley as in trying to rip off my mascot the "Fly B" on the grill when it is parked on the street or even housed in the commercial garage. Hey, no one knew that I have a "quick valve" before posting! Now that everyone who has read this do know that I have the "quick valve." Will they make the attempted to release the oil? By the way, anyone thinking in doing this, you need a jack as to bring up the clearance to get under the rear fender and chassis in order to slide under to be able to reach the valve. My DeLorean is lowered all around which minimized the clearance and it is my only safeguard in preventing someone in "reaching out".... If they do release the oil by vandalism, all I need to do is to closed up the valve and fill the motor with oil... For your info, I don't need a jack to do an oil change, ask me and I will tell you how, for I will not post it publicly.... As my experience with breakdowns with the DeLorean? With the DeLorean when anything break downs, it breaks down with little warning or indication. So, in the anticipation of failure in parts of "age fatigue" and or "high wear in or usage" failure, I had many parts on my DeLorean removed and replaced with NOS or presently engineered manufactured parts. What I feel that needs to be inspected "regularly" is the chassis for it will slowly or quickly rust itself away under the epoxy especially if one drives the DeLorean daily in the rain and snow -- And I do drive in ALL weather. Rob has done the annual inspections or when I am at his premises for "work to be done." He also replaces what needs replacement for he knows the failing characteristics or faults of the DeLorean and its components. I don't think twice in giving him the clearance to do the repairs or the "questionable" parts to be replaced. Towing in NYC is expensive for is it $60 for the hook up and $6 a mile, plus tax. From where I live to Rob, it is 60 plus miles and I've been to Rob on flatbed or hooked towed four times on emergencies, which includes the middle of the night. So, do the towing math... Hey David, you have a working equipped facility and you are knowledgeable??? The DeLorean is getting old and I am too to work on it. You want work on my DeLorean when Rob is too busy to take my car in??? I will pay you!!! :-) Kayo Ong #5508 Lic 9D NY On Oct 25, 2010, at 10:53 PM, jtrealtywebspannet wrote: > Jacking the car up and going underneath it to change the oil is the > perfect oppertunity to inspect the C/V boots, the TAB's, the front > suspension (and lube it) check for exhaust leaks, fluid leaks, etc. > The underside of the car is a very neglected area because it is so > hard to see anything unless the car is raised up. Regular > inspection avoids the possibility of getting stuck with the car if > you find and fix a problem early. It is a whole lot more than let > the oil out and them fill it back up! I don't like the quick-valve > thing much, anyone, even without a tool, can reach under and let > your oil out. > David Teitelbaum > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "dmc6960" <dmc6960@...> wrote: > > > > To stop the splatter of oil, just use a cardboard paper towel > tube. Cut it lengthwise, open it up and wedge it between the frame > and oilpan. It will hold itself in there, and then channel the oil > down to your drain pan. After my first oil change, I came up with > this solution and have been doing it for over 10 years. > > > > Jim Reeve > > DMC6960 > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! 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