Re: [DML] Re: Starter run on.

["Stephen Jaeger" <sjaeger@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Steve,

Looks like you were right. The cable from the battery appeared to be touching the red-white wire. I separated them and everything worked normally. Thanks for your help and to the others that took the time to reply.

Steve J

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: S C 
  To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [DML] Re: Starter run on.


    
  This problem happened to me exactly as you are stating. The direct red
  power wire from the battery has come loose, and slipped down to make contact
  with another part of the starter. Remove it, move it up, tighten it, and
  put something between it so it doesn't make contact again.

  -Steve Cosgrove
  Vin 1494

  On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:52 AM, jtrealtywebspannet
  <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

  >
  >
  > Easy to check. Measure the voltage on the starter terminals. It sounds like
  > the solenoid is sticking.Probably internaly. You are more likely to burn up
  > the contacts inside when you are using a battery in a chronic state of
  > undercharge. When you burn up the terminals the solenoid can stick causing
  > the sarater to continue to run even after you release the key.
  > David Teitelbaum
  >
  >
  > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com>, "Stephen
  > Jaeger" <sjaeger@...> wrote:
  > >
  > > Adam,
  > >
  > > When I reconnected the battery the starter did not come on. The starter
  > run on only happened again when I tried to restart the car.
  > > Could there be a short in the ignition switch sending continuous current
  > to the starter solenoid?
  > >
  > > Steve
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: adamfastdmc
  > > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com>
  > > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 12:58 AM
  > > Subject: [DML] Re: Starter run on.
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > When you reconnected the battery and the problem came back, were you
  > turning the key or did it just start spinning immediately?
  > >
  > > If it started cranking without the key being turned at all:
  > >
  > > My suggestion is to remove the start inhibit relay and reconnect the
  > battery for a second. If the motor tries to engage again then your solenoid
  > is probably stuck in the "start" position - without the relay it should not
  > get any power, so it should reset to the open circuit position. The solenoid
  > is pretty easy to rebuild if it's in good condition internally, and if
  > not... it's not too expensive to replace if that's the case.
  > >
  > > If the relay being removed solves the problem then you have either a bad
  > relay or further wiring troubles that I can't figure out from memory. But
  > this test would at least rule out the solenoid being stuck.
  > >
  > > If you have an aftermarket exhaust it's really not hard to remove the
  > starter at all if you prefer to bench test it or inspect it internally.
  > Never tried it with the factory exhaust though.
  > >
  > > The amount of power flowing through the starter circuit is incredible. If
  > something went wrong in the solenoid I can easily see the metal softening
  > and tacking itself shut, completing the circuit without any input from the
  > ignition circuit. I rebuilt my solenoid about a year ago and the copper had
  > turned purple from the electricity arcing between improperly assembled
  > contacts.
  > >
  > > -Adam S.
  > >
  > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com>, "Stephen
  > Jaeger" <sjaeger@> wrote:
  > > >
  > > > Can someone tell me what would cause the starter to continue running
  > even after I turned the car off and removed the key from the ignition? I had
  > just put the steering column back together after replacing the bushing at
  > the firewall, took the car for a drive with everything working correctly.
  > After I got home, I turned the car off, let it sit for a few minutes and
  > tried to restart it. It would not start ( hot start problem) but the starter
  > keep running after I turned it off and took out the key. I had to disconnect
  > the battery to stop it. I tried it again after a while and it did it again.
  > Thanks for any help.
  > > >
  > > > Steve
  > > >
  > 
  >

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