I have not seen anyone Criticize Josh. They have criticized past administrations and they way the club was run, and have been asking many him questions. Some he does not have the answers to yet, but has promised to follow up on shortly. Josh has done a great job already at STARTING to answer questions which is something nobody else in the DOA has done (sorry Ken, but it is true. Marc brought up the fact that the questions Josh is now responding to were ones that were asked by me and several other people multiple times, but went unanswered by you) Kevin Abato Vin# 16680 www.grenexmedia.com "Make the DOA Free!!!!" -----Original Message----- From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Baker Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 5:40 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [DML] New DOA President & Vice-President Guys, Its great to see so much chatter about the DOA. However, its sad that so many people are seeing this as an opportunity to criticize Josh and the Owners Association. Its also sad that so many of the people criticizing are not people who are members. Give this guy a chance! He's a good guy and has a clear vision of the future. For those who are quick to criticizing, remember, this is a volunteer organization. Josh and the others are donating their time to help the Owners Association grow. There is only one way to effect change, get involved. If you don't want to get involved, then don't criticize. I resigned because I saw a conflict in what I am now doing for a living. I think others will agree. I was approached by many people who wanted to take over the DOA, Josh was by far the most qualified. If your going to do anything, get behind him, show him your support and contribute. Otherwise, leave him alone. I know, I've been there and have dealt with it for two years. The board and Josh have asked me to stay involved. I will so long as we don't see a conflict with my position within the DMC organization. Good Luck Josh, I know you will do a good job. All the Best, Ken Baker Manager DeLorean Motor Company Florida 239-495-8550 Office www.dmcflorida.com _____ From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Josh Haldeman Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 3:47 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [DML] New DOA President & Vice-President Sorry to hear about the job situation Marc! Hope it doesn't last long! We're at 3 magazines per year currently, and looking into the viability of going back to the quarterly publications of old, if we can get enough content. What if the membership fee included a show discount for DCS 2010? I'll discuss it with Ken, but I think something could be arranged. I'll keep everyone posted, Josh From: dmcnews@yahoogroups <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> .com [mailto:dmcnews@yahoogroups <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On Behalf Of Marc Levy Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:00 AM To: dmcnews@yahoogroups <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> .com Subject: RE: [DML] New DOA President & Vice-President Sorry Bud.. Recently unemployed, so I need to be more careful with my money.. $75 a year for a magazine (I think it is 2 issues now?!) and a discount on a events that have yet to be determined are just not worth it for me. As I said last year to Ken Baker, I am going to "wait and see". --- On Fri, 10/16/09, Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman@fuse. <mailto:jhaldeman%40fuse.net> net <mailto:jhaldeman%40fuse.net> > wrote: > From: Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman@fuse. <mailto:jhaldeman%40fuse.net> net <mailto:jhaldeman%40fuse.net> > > Subject: RE: [DML] New DOA President & Vice-President > To: dmcnews@yahoogroups <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> .com <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 1:27 AM > Hi Marc, > > > > I will take a look back at those old posts and see if I can > pick out the > questions that weren't answered, and take a crack at them. > > > > In the meantime, I'll answer your question about what you > get for your > membership dues. At this time, a $75 membership in > the DeLorean Owners > Association includes a one year "DeLorean World" magazine > subscription and > discounts to Association shows and merchandise. An > additional benefit is > that every member of the Association is invited and > encouraged to attend > Board meetings. > > > > Given our resources and history, I see many opportunities > to be able to > provide additional benefits for our members, if we can > properly align the > organization with the needs of the community. We can > accomplish this is > through better communication, which is why I'm pushing > board meeting > involvement. > > > > Between now and November, I plan to organize my thoughts > and the input I > have been getting, both public and private from board and > association > members, and concerned community advocates like yourself, > into a business > plan that can provide a path forward for this > organization. The continued > effort to combine forces with DCS and others will no doubt, > provide us with > some challenges. However, I don't believe that any > are insurmountable. I > will present my plan to the board for review on November > 15th. If you'd > like to be involved in this planning, I encourage you to > sign up for > membership today at www.deloreanowners.org. > > > > -Josh > > > > > > > > > > From: dmcnews@yahoogroups <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> .com <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:dmcnews@yahoogroups <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> .com <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> ] > On Behalf Of > Marc Levy > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 8:07 PM > To: dmcnews@yahoogroups <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> .com <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [DML] New DOA President & Vice-President > > > > > > Hey Josh... > > Glad to see this change, I think.... Time will tell. > > Not to be a pia your first day on the job, but there were a > number of > questions that were posted to this mailing list a year or > so ago when Ken > Baker took over. Many of those questions are still > unanswered. > > As you get settled in your new job, I'd love for you to go > back and read > those posts and see if you can answer any of those > questions... Most > importantly, What do members get for their $75 per year?? > > Good luck in your new role. I hope you can turn things > around for the DOA. > > --- On Wed, 10/14/09, Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman@fuse. <mailto:jhaldeman%40fuse.net> net <mailto:jhaldeman%40fuse.net> > <mailto:jhaldeman%40fuse.net> > wrote: > > > From: Josh Haldeman <jhaldeman@fuse. <mailto:jhaldeman%40fuse.net> net <mailto:jhaldeman%40fuse.net> > <mailto:jhaldeman%40fuse.net> > > > Subject: [DML] New DOA President & Vice-President > > To: dmcnews@yahoogroups <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> .com <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:dmcnews%40yahoogroups.com> , > dmcforum@yahoogroup <mailto:dmcforum%40yahoogroups.com> s.com <mailto:dmcforum%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:dmcforum%40yahoogroups.com> > > Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 10:06 AM > > Dear Fellow Owners and Enthusiasts, > > > > > > > > The Board of Directors for the DeLorean Owners > Association > > met last weekend > > for our monthly meeting, and we took a vote to change > the > > leadership of the > > organization. > > > > > > > > As many of you already know, Ken Baker recently took a > job > > with the DeLorean > > Motor Company of Florida. He felt there was a > > conflict of interest between > > doing that job, and continuing as leader of this > > organization. After much > > discussion, I was nominated to take over as President, > and > > elected by the > > Board. At the same meeting, Steve Hirman stepped down > as > > Vice President due > > to time commitments, and Ron Ferguson stepped up to > take > > his place. > > > > > > > > I've previously been serving as the webmaster for the > > organization, and Ron > > has been serving as a Director-at-Large. Ken > and > > Steve plan as a minimum to > > stay on as Directors-at-Large until the next issue of > > DeLorean World is > > published later this year. > > > > > > > > The rest of the Board remains the same, with long > time > > Board members Joan > > Truscott serving as Treasurer, and James Hales serving > as > > Advertising > > Director. > > > > > > > > The vision I have for leading this, the oldest of > DeLorean > > organizations, > > into the future is to continue what Ken Baker started > by > > working towards a > > more unified community. Both Ken Baker and Ken > > Koncelik have spent > > considerable time working towards this goal, but > there > > remains much work to > > be done. Part of the reason I was elected is my > > experience with DCS. This, > > combined with the board member's experience, and most > > importantly, with YOUR > > input & support will provide better shows and > > publications for everyone. > > > > > > > > First of all, the DOA will start hosting DCS shows on > the > > West coast, > > starting with DCS West 2 in 2011. We plan to emphasize > the > > successful model > > Ken has proven, and intend to have him serve as an > advisor > > for these > > efforts. The Association will continue to > handle > > European Expos as well. > > (The next will be Eurofest 2011 in Belfast) > > > > > > > > Secondly, the community can no longer continue to > support > > three separate > > magazines all covering much of the same material. > > Since 1983, DeLorean > > World magazine has been the most recognized source of > > published information > > regarding the man, car, company, and community. > I > > intend to work with Ken > > (and appeal to Stephen Wynne to join us as well) to > make > > sure we don't lose > > this resource. DCS Magazine will be published > twice > > more, fulfilling our > > obligation to our subscribers, before becoming a part > of > > DeLorean World. I > > have been assistant editor for DCS Magazine since its > > inception, and plan to > > continue in that capacity until the two merge. > > Beginning with the next > > issue of DeLorean World, I will be responsible for > > directing the art for > > that magazine. > > > > > > > > The final initiative I will undertake, starting now, > is to > > encourage > > involvement! If you don't like the way the > > Association is run, or what it > > provides for its members, become involved and make a > > change! It's true when > > they say the world is run by those who show up! > This > > resource for owners > > and enthusiasts alike is available only through the > > volunteer efforts of > > people like you. > > > > > > > > If you are already a member, I thank you for your > support, > > and promise to > > work as hard as I can to make sure we are an > inclusive > > organization to be > > proud of! If you aren't, become involved today, > and > > together we can make > > sure the future of our cars and our community remain > > strong. Our next board > > meeting is on November 15th, 2009. These are > open to > > all members of the > > association, and membership is currently only $75 per > > year. > > > > > > > > Thanks for your time and attention. If you have > any > > questions for me, I > > will be happy to answer them. 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