Actually if anybody has ever measured the thickness of a delorean frame MINUS the epoxy coating(not including the backbone part of the frame) it is LESS than the thickness of a average CD or DVD or under .045" and that is for a MINT frame...now factor in a frame with some rusty or rust-out under it...that is why I stand by not using frame jacks for long term storage. Bottom line for some strange reason EVERY component that WAS NOT made at the factory was made to MINIMIN tolerances(except the SS parts)...any item(s)that were made at the DMC factory was made To very MAXIMUM engineering standards...hence Dave is correct about the Black body being very stout!!!! I once cut a Delorean black body to pieces as someone never returned my vin plate so I could dispose of it in the normal manner,anyway I discovered how very very stout the black body really was engineered,all cavities are filled in with high quality Very High density foam,(except the pontoons)with the Fiberglass being built to a VERY high standard/ thickness/strength(about four/five times the thickness of the frame,basically in the delorean the blackbody acts as a shock absorber for the frame in a accident. Just remember your frame was engineered to be under sprung weight...and is also supporting that heavy black body/drivetrain etc...all that weight is being transfered into the suspension to the wheels/tires and then onto the ground... anytime you take the frame off it's engineered sprung weight you are basically putting/converting all that weight into a rigid weight ONTO and INTO and being absorberd into the mild steel frame....then to the ground(using jack-stands or a jack)...basic engineering says it is better to transfer that weight through the suspension/tires...than direct through the frame(using jackstands)When you jack the delorean from the jack points on the Black-body you are then shifting all the weight THROUGH the black-body..rather than the mild steel frame....And most of it gets absorbed into the High Density foam that is engineered into the black body and very little into the frame. So Dave is correct in his assumption. Claude --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Dave Swingle" <swingle_dmc@...> wrote: > > We've lifted literally hundreds of cars by the underbody - it's really the only way to work on it with a standard shop lift. It's what the designers intended. I've left them hanging literally for weeks if not months like that in my garage at home (before I pulled the lift out). The fiberglass is pretty stout stuff. > > We were pretty worried about the frames we've been discussing here and avoided walking under the cars, and there wasn't much holding the engine in, but nothing ever fell off. Other than lots of rust and epoxy. And the rear suspension. > > Dave S > > > [moderator snip] ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/