I was just about to compose almost exactly the same message--thanks, Marc, for beating me too it. The "DMC News 'Zine" is a great existence proof that on-line publishing can be done with careful editing and attractive layout without the costs (financial and environmental) of blowing thorough trees. I have every issue on my computer and still enjoy browsing through them from time to time. Plus, if such an magazine were free to subscribers (advertisers would still expect registration, in order to have some kind of count of readership), my guess is that a lot more people would feel motivated to contribute articles, since it would feel more like a service to the larger community, not just a small pool of paid subscribers. (FWIW: I think that there are a lot of advantages to the PDF format. One of the advantages of traditional print is that it encourages careful thought and creative layout, the final result tends to be of higher overall quality, and receiving a copy is more of an "event" than just getting some email or visiting a web page. It is arguable that the act of "tying a ribbon" around each issue by committing it to PDF tends to come closer to traditional print in these regards. It is a small point, though.) Finally, I would argue that such a publication venue would be superior to print as a "publication of record". The Internet tends to do a good job at preserving things like this (the 'Zine has been continuously available since publication, and I'm sure there are hundreds of copies cached on private machines and websites). Paper magazines come and go, and as time passes the accessibility to the valuable information they contain inevitable wanes. As a lover of good typography and design, I do not make these comments casually, and I fully realize that much will be lost when paper magazines are a thing of the past. But, I haven't subscribed to a paper newspaper in four years now; the Christian Science Monitor has recently announced that it is going to a Web-only format; print magazines of much larger circulation than anything we could imagine are biting the dust monthly. As much as we all may regret it, I'm afraid that the day of specialized print magazines is rapidly coming to an end, and trying to maintain three of them in a community of our size is just quixotic. --Pete Lucas VIN #06703 ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/