--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "mike.griese@..." <mike.griese@...> wrote: > > The fact that a company builds racing tires doesn't > mean much in terms of manufacturing quality for > mass produced tires. Most racing tires are made > of different constructions and materials on > completely separate manufacturing lines. > > Remember - Firestone made all of those tires > for Ford Explorers at the same time they were > a supplier to Champcar and other series. > > -- > Mike That is true, and not just on mass produced vs. limited edition tires. And it shows that Cooper is in the same boat as Firestone and many others too: The've had tires that were bad, but the rest were fine. Firestone tires were only a small link in the whole chain of problems that caused the Ford Explorer fiasco. Yes, Firestone had poorly manufactured tires. Unlike though Cooper where seasoned employees at 2 particular factories complained out the usage of some poor materials & approval of a few known defective tires, Firestone hired temporary labor during a lengthy Union dispute that was responsible for the majority of these defective tires. They didn't know how many belts to install, how to properly cure them, or especially how to recognize defective tires and pull them. The rest of it was Poor Driver skills. Most people barely get taught defensive driving, let alone emergency maneuvers like what to do when a blow-out occurs. So when tread-separation occurred, police determined that almost every single overturned vehicle was a result of someone panicking and over-correcting their steering while slamming on the brakes. Yes the blow-outs were the catalyst for the accidents, but nearly all of them could have been avoided if the drivers had remained calm and let their vehicles gently slow down with minimal braking and cautionary steering. I personally maintain that Cooper Cobras are the best buy out there, and I have been very happy with their performance and amazing price. I've driven through rain, flood water, industrial waste, raw sewage, snow, oil slicks, & concrete rubble. I've also maintained 100mph+ speeds in them for almost an hour, slammed into curbs, driven over curbs, driven on dirt-roads, and even launched the car into the air doing 80 through a construction zone on the top of a hill (bent the lower control arms slightly). All on Coopers Cobra GTs. They proved themselves to me just fine, as did the DeLorean. Most people will never drive even a rental car as hard as I do my own. Some people still refuse to take their cars out into the rain. How would anyone know how to handle their cars in an emergency situation? Accidents happen on the road, and trucks spill their loads on the highway all the time (happened to me). Cars pull out in front of you. Nails can even cause a blow-out. You have to be prepared, and good tires are one of the keys. Other than Coopers, the old NCTs, Pirellis, & Michelin are the only other tires I've heard of doing good on slick pavement. And neither come in a matching sets, or are even made anymore. I'm not too comfortable with mixing and matching tires. That IMO is dangerous. I'd be worried about having tires upfront that don't grip as well as the ones in the back, and risk losing control while cornering. -Robert vin 6585 "X" ------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnewsYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/